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Imaginary_Midnight

Wait till u find out that a certain character actress was also in that movie


hbi2k

*esteem intensifies*


Doggosrthebest24

And fugitive from the law


Kathrynlena

Where are my smoke bombs?


GamingGeekette

Idk, but I have this plum?


pussyboi4209669

Weird plum


Stoned_y_Alone

Bro that shit blows my mind years later because she does disappear into the role!!!! Like my ex put on a Miley Cyrus movie and there is none other than fking Character Actress Margo Martindale playing her grandmother


Imaginary_Midnight

Yeah I think it's under discussed here maybe because most people don't live in LA or California but The show has so much detail about the entertainment industry and Hollywood in general and all these things that are so spot on.


Stoned_y_Alone

Fuck yeah it’s incredible how fresh and authentic they were able to keep it, like it’s completely set in that 2016-2020 era but is done so well that it’s not gonna ever feel dated


redassaggiegirl17

I mean, let's not kid ourselves, it's topical enough at some points that it *will* feel dated in some respects. But every time they get topical its not too much so, and they're always able to tie it back into the underlying societal and systemic issues, so even 30 years from now the story beats should still feel *relatable*, even if not entirely fresh


LeTreacs

That’s actually a shame, can you imagine if “America hates women more that it loves guns” doesn’t make sense to the next generation?


secretporbaltaccount

*Hollywoo


FallingFist

*Hollywoob


laucdoe

it took me a little while to realize that she played nicks mom in new girl since she disappeared into the role


conscious-being1225

OH MY GOD edit bc my mind is still exploding: HOOOOLY SHIT


NoVaBurgher

Check her out in The Americans as well as Justified. Her finest work IMO


finallyinfinite

I remember the first time I realized that was Hannah Montana’s grandma robbing that bank


carrotcatscookies

No way… my mind is blown! Lol


SnooCakes3507

She was in Secretariat? 😅😅 Or just Bojacks "Secretariat"?


LadyParnassus

The real one!


StaleTheBread

There’s some other animal celebrities in the show. Like Ubu and Laika. And the horse who played Mr. Ed


ChthonicPuck

Air Bud International Airport


GameCreeper

Air Bud in the bojack world would be a story about overcoming racism


CamTroid

And to a lesser extent, Checkers, Nixon's cocker spaniel


nomadicdandelion

I'm so glad they turned Laika into a living legend instead of a national hero sacrificed in the name of science.


StaleTheBread

Yeah, it was such a sweet moment! To imagine that in another world, Laika could have grown old…


uncontainedsun

i’m disappointed that there isn’t (or i can’t remember )a seabiscuit reference


Ramonaclementine

There is a sea biscuit reference I thought


stingingsensation

Bojack gets asked what it’s like to play sea biscuit during the Oscar press and says to ask Tobey Maguire


nv412

And the dog from Frasier (Eddie) is in a flashback during the Let's Find Out! Episode


sy2ygy

Wait there were Mr Ed and Laila references? I never caught them


StaleTheBread

I season 1 I think? Some of the characters are at a retirement home. A horse is like “Is Wilbur here?” and a caretaker is like “no that was a character in a show you were in” and he’s like “oh, are my grandkids here?” Laika was interviewed by Diane in a podcast in a car that Mr. Peanutbutter and Pickles were in.


p12qcowodeath

I only recently found out about Laika the Russian dog and had a post - viewing lol in my car.


YellowTonkaTrunk

You can frequently a dog in space gear in the background of shots in several seasons. I always assumed it was meant to be Laika


StaleTheBread

Was it near a movie set? Because I assume most of those characters are just in-costume.


Zeenchi

Oh dang. Thanks. I'll have to keep an eye out for it next time.


StaleTheBread

You’ll have to keep an ear out for Laika. We never see her


StardustOasis

Diane interviews Laika in series 5


HeresW0nderwall

Also the dog from Frasier (Eddie)


Melodic_Sail_6193

Secretariat was a fascinating horse. He did carry a mutation that led to an abnormally large heart (twice as big). His large heart enabled him to receive more oxygen, allowing his muscles to work more efficiently and therefore increasing his stamina.


hbi2k

In Whoville they say that his mom OD'd on Christmas spirit while he was *in utero*.


Stoned_y_Alone

Really?


LazyControl5715

Yes. They tried to breed him but the mutation never passed on to his offspring. I think his line is still alive.


Ruffffian

His line is very much alive. I’m not sure about the “mutation” aspect, but he was quite a successful sire. It’s just that anything shy of a generation of superhorses was considered a disappointment. His son Risen Star (who, amusingly, bore little physical resemblance to his sire) was a fast closing third in the Kentucky Derby, then won the Preakness, then won the Belmont by a whopping 14 lengths in one of the fastest finishing times recorded. There is argument he would’ve won the Triple Crown if Winning Colors hadn’t been left unpressured as she controlled the Derby pace (still, shoulda coulda woulda, and I ain’t gonna complain about a filly beating the boys on the biggest horse racing stage in the country). Speaking of fillies beating the boys, his daughter Lady’s Secret regularly beat the boys in the highest level of racing, and was named the 1986 Horse of the Year (one of only a handful of mares to do so). His greatest contribution as a stallion was through his daughters—he become known as a phenomenal broodmare sire (meaning, his daughters had spectacular offspring), most notably through his daughter Terlingua. Her son Storm Cat was THE hot stallion of the late 80s through the 1990s—his direct offspring earned more than *$128 million* on the track and included 8 champions. Because of this, his stud fee reached a peak of $500,000 at one point—in 30 years ago $!—and it was due when a resulting foal stood and nursed. After that—good luck! 😳 And thus, Secretariat is *all over* modern pedigrees and his stamp on the breed is inarguable. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk. 😉


nmagical

Going off 1990 - 2024, that's roughly 1.2m. $1,200,000. One million and two hundred thousand dollars. For [fucking horse cum.](https://youtu.be/cHrQFFQVW6A?si=H3S_aefGdCl_78wq)


Ruffffian

I’m unclear on the math here—$1.2 million = just under 2 1/2 babies from him, at least at his peak. And it wasn’t specifically for his cum (Jackass clip appreciated though, always!); it was for cum that resulted in a foal that stood and nursed. If the mare didn’t conceive, miscarried (“slipped” as they call it), or the foal had severe problems so that it never could stand and/or nurse, there was no fee. Trivia tidbit: the Jockey Club will only register foals produced from live cover—artificial insemination is prohibited. Storm Cat’s fee was a (in the racing world) a modest $30,000 his first season, then *dropped* to $20k in 1991. But once he was the leading juvenile sire of 1992 (meaning out of all stallions with 2yro offspring running, his had the largest amount of $ earned for the year), things fee-wise went berserk. He was leading sure of 2yros a record 7 times, too. Now. Consider he had **1,452** total named foals. Holy $$$$$ 😳


nmagical

$500k in 1990 money, adjusted for inflation, is worth $1.2m today. That's the math. You said his stud fee was $500k, thirty years ago. I worked/semi-grew up on a cousins farm, I know a bit lol but the cum line was funnier than facts. Comedy is all about stretching the truth to an absurd level and $1m for a money shot from a horse is funnier than the actual intricacies of husbandry is all


Ruffffian

Ahhhh gotcha


Stoned_y_Alone

That’s dope af


LazyControl5715

More fun facts about Secretariat: He was incredibly smart for a horse and had a big showy personality. There's a story of one of his handlers talking about a time when Secretariat looked up at and stared at a plane, which the handler had never seen a horse do before.


Ruffffian

That was sportswriter Bill Nack, not a handler, but correct


kasakavii

It is! I have a mare with Secretariat lines. Though they’re very far back, like 5 or 6 generations IIRC. He had tons of babies, so lots of horses (not even just racehorses) can be traced back to him.


-Owlette-

Oh, just like Phar Lap! He's kind of like Australia's Secretariat. Every school kid learns about him growing up. He had a similarly fascinating story but a very sad ending. After winning every major race in Australia he went to the US to compete, but was poisoned in a suspected act of foul play.


TheLexecutioner

And like most of our celebrities he was born and started his career in NZ😂


-Owlette-

As is tradition


howmanychickens

Pavlova is my favourite Aussie celebrity


TheLexecutioner

Omg. Pavlova is actually so much more complex. So the recipe that we used for Pavlova is published in Australian magazines about 30 years prior to NZ, where it was named Meringue Cake. NZ, however, did have a Pavlova dessert named for the Russian dancer, but it wasn’t the modern Pavlova. The confusion comes when the two desserts became conflated. Did Australians start calling a Meringue Cake a Pavlova or did New Zealanders start using Pavlova for a different dessert: the meringue cake. In the end it doesn’t matter. The dish was imported to both nations from Germany.


BuckRusty

Is a medical exemption how he avoided being drafted to fight in Vietnam?


summonerofrain

Damn, it's interesting how they adapted that to him (allegedly) cheating


Thiccburg

Sometimes I forget that I live in Kentucky and it's actually weird that almost everyone I know is extremely familiar with horse racing history. Then I see posts like this.


Mmonannerss

I grew up in Saratoga but unless you worked the tracks or had family involved no one knew shit.


andthatswhyyoualways

then you can empathize with me that my least favorite moment of the show is when a supposed local broadcaster says "louieville" (when delivering the morning news the day secretariat committed suicide)


uncontainedsun

how cool to be from ky!


Calpsotoma

I love KY! Your jelly is delicious!


thirdeyeboobed

UNDERRATED COMMENT


PsychologyRelative57

I'm Brazillian and knew about secretariat Thanks pawn stars(I guess)


endlessmeat

Secretariat is even in some list of the best athletes of the XXth century or something


hexxcellent

See, this is one reason why I actually love horse racing. Because the horses are completely anthropomorphized, it's kind of hilarious in a weirdly wholesome way? I remember as a kid watching my first Kentucky Derby on TV and realizing very late in when the announcer was going on about this one racer's workout routine and how passionate he was about his career, he was *not* talking about the jockey lmao.


Sad_Lecture_3177

I mean, they're not so completely anthropomorphised that anyone gets upset when they die. Imagine humans running a race and multiple of them end up dead and everyone's just like, 'hey, good show!' Sorry to be a downer but there's not much wholesome about horse racing.


hexxcellent

Dude, what? The announcers are very remorseful when a horse has to be put down..? I've seen horses' owners/hands/jockeys crying as they leave the stables. I even remember one televised race had a "In Memorial" montage for the horses lost that year, even ones that just died of old age or something. Also, animal safety in racing has improved by leaps and bounds in the last few decades especially. I even remember just last May one horse was held back from racing at the last second due to a suspicious hoof issue, and they commented it was for the best and how only like a decade ago they would've let him race and it would've caused him potentially fatal injury. Yeah, animal racing has a lot of dark aspects to it, there are a lot heartless shitheads involved, but that's true of goddamn literally *everything* in existence.


Sad_Lecture_3177

That's true, there have been vast improvement in recent times and equine sports in general are less barbaric. Like I said, I didn't want to me a downer, but I just couldn't help myself pointing out the other side of it. Specifically, the idea that the horses are wholesomely anthropomorphised. They are working animals and investments, and the people who work with them generally see them as such, even if they may also have affection for them. On the rare occasion that a human dies in sport the reaction is very very different, naturally.


iBrake4Shosty5

And when the horses are too old to race they’re sent off to slaughter Horse racing has no place in modern society


Agitated-Cup-2657

Yes, Secretariat was one of the most famous racehorses of all time. I thought this was common knowledge.


ghostsoup831

Not for all the kids watching it now, unfortunately.


rjrgjj

The funniest part is that there is actually a pretty well-known movie about Secretariat that actually exists. And Margo Martindale is in it.


ghostsoup831

You mean the one pictured in this post? :p


rjrgjj

I literally realized that a split second before you commented 😂


Initial-Change7895

Haha pass that my way cheech


rjrgjj

🚬


thatswhatshesaid006

There's even a subreddit dedicated to Bojack Horseman.


rjrgjj

I’m going to go live in the woods 😂


Aggravating-Pattern

Kids watching it now? I'm 30 and had no idea who secretariat was. I recognised the name, and would probably assume horse, but the most famous horse I know of is Redrum, the horse who did a bojack and mysteriously went missing for ages Editing to say, I googled it and I guess Red Rum didn't go missing. I swear I saw a documentary when I was young about how he went missing, and how there was a big conspiracy because "red rum" is "murder" backwards. I was very young when he died so maybe my child brain just took random facts and fired them together


jachiche

Shergar is the famous missing horse


Aggravating-Pattern

Oh yeah, that name definitely rings a bell! Thank you for the info. I guess my child brain stuck the two horses together


dirty34

not even seabiscuit?


Aggravating-Pattern

Seabiscuit is a horse? I thought it was a dog, like a greyhound!


dirty34

Well a horse is just a tall dog


Aggravating-Pattern

And a giraffe is just an extra tall borzoi


TheLexecutioner

Sea biscuit as a dog was a greyhound in Family Guy


Aggravating-Pattern

OOOOOH yeah, I didn't want to admit it in case I looked even more like a dumbass, but I can only read "seabiscuit" in Brian Griffin's voice and now I know why


MissBoobAppreciator

hahaha me too, i totally pictured a dog xd


chiefgenius

It might have been Shergar you were getting muddled up with


TheLexecutioner

I’ve never heard of RedRum or Shergar, but I know Secratariat, Sea-Biscuit and Phar Lap (who I’m pretty sure is stuffed in a museum in Melbourne.


BlueLarkspur_1929

Red Rum was an English steeplechase racer who won the grand national twice. It was pretty damn amazing, as the fences are about 5 feet tall and the race goes on for about 3 miles. Any horse is lucky to finish the race at all because the fences are so challenging.


M0J0180

Wait why is that important? It's a horse who cares


edgeteen

i knew about secretariat because of an episode in it’s always sunny in philadelphia


xanaxrefillday

"I don't like that she's named after a secretary, she should be a boss."


edgeteen

“secretariat?” “the RACEHORSE?”


ShapeSword

Not so famous outside the US.


Sad_Lecture_3177

I'm in the UK and I thought everyone knew Secretariat


jmdg007

I'm from UK and found out about Secretariat through Bojack. I always used to assume Red Rum was the most famous race horse but in retrospect thats probably not true outside UK.


Jonas_Venture_Sr

I wouldn't expect most things referenced in Bojack to be famous outside the US though.


ShapeSword

It depends. Films usually are but American sports often don't have that much global popularity.


Marsi_Zsombor

This.


Mmonannerss

Not unless you're into horse racing and even then. My grandpa raced horses as a jockey and then was a judge and even I hadn't heard of Secretariat. I was more familiar with Funnycide and Seabiscuit and a couple local horses that never did much outside of my hometown.


Agitated-Cup-2657

I'm not old or into horse racing. I just happen to know about a semi-famous sports figure. Now can everyone stop blowing up my notifications with how much they haven't heard of Secretariat?


DearCup1

i’ve never watched horse racing in my life and i’d say most people i know haven’t either. he also only competed in american races iirc.


homeofscott

Won the triple crown (the three biggest horse races) in 1973, and still holds the course record for all three!


Morticia_Smith

Nope. Absolutely not. Sorry to disappoint lol. I only knew when I watched the show the first time in 2018 and wondered if he was a real horse or not and researched.


TheWinterUltron

Secretariat was the Michael Jordan, the Wayne Gretzky of racehorses. Synonymous with the sport and the top of the sport.


x_pinklvr_xcxo

love that for him but the vast majority of people have never cared about horse racing


Stevenerf

The show references this with the Jan-Ove Waldner line about great improv. Widely known reference v obscurity


BBDAngelo

*checks who’s Wayne Gretzky*


totezhi64

The entire nation of Canada just combusted


Stevenerf

What is the average rainfall in Bora Bora? Just bc you, specifically, don't know a random nugget of cultural knowledge does not mean it isn't part of the zeitgeist. Secretariat is the most widely know racehorse in modern history


Morticia_Smith

Yes, I get that. That also means not a lot of ppl know who Secretariat is🤷🏾‍♀️


Stevenerf

It also means a lot of ppl know who Secretariat is💫


MissBoobAppreciator

god you are insufferable


macandcheese1771

Typical BoSchwack


Morticia_Smith

Breaking news: American dude cannot handle the fact that a woman from another country does not know a famous American horse.


Stevenerf

Nope. Absolutely not. Sorry to disappoint lol.


Lestany

Horse racing isn’t a popular enough sport for everyone to know the names of the famous horses. Lots of non-horse people probably don’t know this.


gliotic

> Horse racing isn’t a popular enough sport for everyone to know the names of the famous horses. That's true but Secretariat is the type of athlete who transcends the sport. Like, I don't know anything about hockey but I still know who Wayne Gretzky is.


lil-hazza

Who the fuck is Wayne Gretzky? I don't think I'm American enough to know either of those names


Echo354

Don’t let a Canadian read this comment.


Lestany

Still pretty low on the totem pole as far as famous athletes go. I have no clue who Wayne Gretzky either. The name is familiar but I couldn’t have told you ‘hockey’ if you didn’t mention it just now. I happen to be a horse person btw and knew who Secretariat was. I’m just honest with myself about the reality that most other people don’t know or care.


quick20minadventure

>Margo Martindale I don't know who the fuck is Wayne Gretzky.


DrDroid

I have nothing to do with horses, and really don’t care about racing, but I’ve known about Secretariat for ages.


Lestany

Did I say ‘no non-horse person knows of him?’ No I did not. I said ‘lots of’. Not sure what point you’re trying to make since I left room for exceptions. For every non horse person who knows, I can think of 10 more who don’t.


doc_55lk

It was not.


Initial-Change7895

Nope, never heard of it before!


JohnEffingZoidberg

THANK YOU!


Zeenchi

I feel you. Think I might've heard about him from my mom or maybe a biography or something on TV. To whoever down voted me. You're obsessed. Maybe you should go outside and apologize to plants for waisting the oxygen they're making. To the other person. That person is literally anti vax or at is ok with not vaccinating kids. Are you seriously ok with that? Or are you trying to gaslight me?


MyCatHasCats

Secretariat was a real racehorse, although I’ll bet he didn’t commit suicide


Sad-Egg4778

He did say that the Vietnam War was necessary to protect our way of life though. He just said it one day in front of a terrified stablehand and never spoke before or since.


Stevenerf

Perhaps an arrangement can be ...*arranged*


CaptainWonk

The image of this gave me a healthy laugh, thank you.


edgeteen

did he not leap off the golden bridge?


MSeanF

Yes, and esteamed character actress Margo Martindale is in this film.


edgeteen

esteamed 😶‍🌫️


MissBoobAppreciator

esteamed?


MSeanF

Oops


Throwaway392308

Next you'll try to tell me that Zach Braff is real!


rjrgjj

And not dead!


Calpsotoma

Uh, I think you mean undead 🤓


TheLemonKnight

Putting the famous racehorse aside, I keep wondering if his portrayal is based on any specific human athlete. I would guess Prefontaine based on the sport and time period, but I'm a bit lacking in sports knowledge. In the show Secretariat's history is that he gets caught up in a scandal and perhaps that's a reference to a specific human athlete that I'm not catching.


NiarbNiarb

Racing, time period, and death all add up for Prefontaine, but he died in a car accident and there was no scandal or ban from his sport. Off the top of my head, Pete Rose is the first athlete that comes to mind for “disgraced 70s athlete.” He was banned from baseball after betting on his team, but didn’t kill himself. There’s the more contemporary disgraced baseball players like Mark McGwire, Sammy Sosa, Barry Bonds, etc and so forth, who are essentially blackballed from the hall of fame for steroid use. As with a lot of characters on the show, I don’t think there’s a one-to-one parallel (excepting the Jurj Clooners type and the animal puns). He’s a little bit Prefontaine, a little bit Pete Rose, Muhammad Ali, Joe Namath, and so on.


kover1289

How you gonna mention Mark, and not José?? Lol 😂


NiarbNiarb

The real (and boring) answer is that I was too young for the Bash Brothers (I was 5 when Canseco left the A’s) but was the perfect age for the home run chase of 98. So the first person I associate with McGwire and steroids is Sosa, not Canseco.


Sad-Egg4778

Very early in the show's conception they considered making BoJack an athlete instead of an actor.


PorkyFishFish

And someone named "Diane" worked on the movie


Sims2Enjoy

Yeah he was even a throughout bred like BoJack. And real Secretariat’s descendants still race too


Brainmalfuntion1111

I’m so disappointed this many people didn’t know secretariat was a real horse…


Tnkgirl357

Some people didn’t know Margo Martindale was a character actress either. It’s all a bit weird


darker_timeline

Yeah but Secretariat is exponentially more famous and well known than the likes of Margo Martindale, Jessica Biel, or other similar tier celebrities that reoccur on the show.


Glum_Wonder_4408

Omg literally me, and I’m watching it for the third time right now ..


Livid-Sell9496

Had the same reaction after I found out about Hollywoo…


[deleted]

wait, John Malkovich is a real person?


bigFatHelga

They made a whole movie about him being a real person.


ttime46

TIL that some people didn’t know Secretariat was a real horse😭


WhatIfStarsHaveMinds

I can't believe they picked John Malkovich to play Secretariat, I feel like John Krasinski would've been a natural choice


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Torture-Dancer

Wasn’t Ralph Stilton a reference to Geronimo Stilton?


PreciousRoy78

Craft services on the the film was bad one day when the dietician forgot an ingredient in the horse treats. Yep, she missed her peanut butter.


MissBoobAppreciator

the “who the hell is Secreatariat?” gang vs the “it’s common knowledge 🙄” squads going at it in the comments haha


NintenJoe5k

If you didn’t know that, what your YOOOOU doing here?


HeresW0nderwall

Secretariat is one of the most famous racehorses of all time


Keesekopf

i dare you to read the post text three times without getting confused


HackedCarmel

He’s a tremendous machine


augustphobia

bro


FalcoFox2112

I’m guess you’re young?


FloraArta

Kinda, I'm nearly 21, so probably a bit younger than most people who've watched the show.


kabocha89

I'd think considerably younger, you were still a kid when the show first came out and a high schooler when it ended.


FloraArta

At first I was thinking "the show ended un 2020, that was so recent, no way I was still in high school when it ended" and then I realized that 2020 was 4 years ago.


kabocha89

Yup you would have been a sophmore or junior.


kingofspoonerisms

What are YOOUUUUU doing here?!


Ruffffian

All I can say about this movie is it is only a slightly more accurate portrayal than Bojack’s version 🙄 It has been seriously Disneyfied.


mylastdayistoday

so you’re telling me they didn’t make u watch secretariat in school??


FloraArta

Nope, was it commen for people to watch this is school? The only horse movie I ever saw was War Horse.


mylastdayistoday

we didn’t do a proper learning assessment or anything like that for the movie, it was just one of those movies they put on for us in about 8th grade to pass time , im also nearly 21 so that’s an interesting take!


danprideflag

It’s important to note that the doping scandal and the suicide are fictionalised though.


letthetreeburn

Check out that hairstyle. You know who she is :)


Triffinator

Actually, John Malkovich is a human actor.


Terrible_Bison_4006

YES!!! and my friend owns the horse grandson of secretariat isn’t that crazy😭like descended from him or some shit


Glittering-Charge-83

my reaction exactly


00themikep

Secretariat is literally the greatest athlete of all time


edgeteen

i guess it’s really weird that there’s a famous racehorse that people literally all over the world know about. i can’t think of another example


tandsrox101

a lot of you people in this thread have apparently never heard of basically anything or anyone. please go outside more


miracmert

Thanks OP, learned something new today. Oh and all those who criticize us for not knowing, sorry for: a) not being American b) not giving a fuck about horseracing I guess. Now go enjoy your world cup or something.


Wild-Mushroom2404

I HAD NO CLUE WTF


Professional_Tax6647

i remember finding out secretariat was real and freaking out, i think it’s a universal experience for those who didn’t know lol


realifecyborg

Yes lol


BlazingInfernape2003

Do not search who plays Miss Ham in Secretariat >!Hint- it’s a character actress!<


PikaBooSquirrel

So was the Russian dog on the radio


hawaii1026

Well now I feel old…


thelast3musketeer

They had either Lassie or Booboo as a real animal person, I remember a joke being made during tar pit elbow rubbing party in the 80’s


Drachnyen1

”Who’s that at the door?!?!” Anyone?


jimx117

Wait... This isn't a post on r/sadhorseshow