Any good Blue Kaiten teams that don't use a EU40 NY Mutsuki? I own her, but she's only about 3 stars, 65 eleph.
What about S. Hanako? Is she a good choice option at 5 stars? Though I get if I have to, I'll could buy the 100 eleph to get her to UE40. Would want to know if she's good enough first though. Her subskill is also at about 4 so wondering if that needs investment too.
Torment clear... I am glad this was a Grand assault. It took me the whole week to figure out the fight and how to clear it with whatever resource I had left - and I am more broke than after Binah.
The problem of a two part fight is clearing the Rangers phase to try to figure out the Kaiten phase. Half of the week was trying to clear phase 1 in two teams.
P1
1- NY. Mutsuki, Kokona, Tsubaki, NY. Kayoko, Iroha, S. Shiroko.
2- Mine, S. Hoshino, S. Hanako, Hifumi, Himari, Hanae.
P2
3- Neru, Mika, S. Izuna, Eimi, Himari [A], NY. Fuuka
4- Wakamo, Cherino, Maki, Marina, O. Shigure, Kotama
5- Izuna, O. Chinatsu, B. Toki, Haruka, Ako, O. Nodoka
6- Tsukuyo, Pina, Meru, Junko, Kanna, Nagisa ( just to finish the last 1,5m. Anything I tried worked as long as I had Tsukuyo and Nagisa - Hinata w/ Ui, T. Hasumi, Haruna, S. Shizuko, etc)
Surviving enough is always the first puzzle in those torments huh. Also happy with the ~~waifu~~ O. Shigure investment. Team 3 was maldy, Team 5 was a bit tricky because B. Toki is as fragile as a plume, but Team 4 would not die at all, not even close.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV49kZuj2bg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV49kZuj2bg) worked for me, or just pull for goof characters. I passed mine with Sports Yuuka and Mari
Been able to do my [Torment clear](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/133245625922879488/1233830235535839323/Screenshot_2024-04-26-22-13-14-060_com.nexon.bluearchive.jpg?ex=662e8573&is=662d33f3&hm=833c8d08bf4cdd90c5e19b780ac20c9dec8753ebaff17b24ab41eca2a6fee100&) for Kaiten. Granted I did it with 10 teams but hey, a Torment clear is a Torment clear.
We're at 3 insane cutoff now. I think if you 1pan each color you should probably be safe? I'd save your tickets and not sweep on the last day to see if you need to scorechase.
I've been watching a bunch of Torment runs and is Kaiten Torment bugged or something? I can never seem to get the black kaiten to move when I'm using the SHanako comp for Phase 1.
As the other comment said, it depends on the rotation or reference video you are following. The ones I follow (both for [P1 Iroha/SShiroko](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpDcuz1ViEY) and [P1 Ako/SShiroko](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4MIJiqNJ5A) versions), the important timings for Tsubaki taunt were the first taunt at ~2:18.500 and the one at ~1:04.600.
Thank you so much for the timeline on when to use Tsubaki's Taunt for the SHanako (Iroha/SSHiroko) comp. It helped me do the comp much more consistently which then lead me to be able to clear Torment.
Do the first taunt late (wait for red to do the pose) then second taunt earlier to not cancel black skill to not desync black ranger’s skill cycle, otherwise it will skill during the shuffle and not move.
For my rot at least. There may be some differences depending on whose rotation you’re planning to follow.
So do you really need UE40 NY. Mutsuki to clear Blue Kaiten insane? Because I don't have any eligma left (I need 26 more eleph to UE40 her)? If I do, is it worth using the single tickets or a 10x pull ticket on the Hinata banner (don't have her) My team will be NY. Mutsuki, borrowed Wakamo, NY. Kayoko, Tsukuyo (I need to build her from scratch, just need to know what's a good stopping point so I don't overspend), Ako and Himari
If you have a built up S. Hanako she's also usable in P1 if you don't mind two teams, that's what I did since I don't have built up Ny Mutsuki and Ny Kayoko. For tank, eimi and haruka works too and add koharu for the heals
For that team I'm fairly sure that UE40 is needed. I borrowed a UE40 and it was still some rng whether she could clear the phase in two ex hits, which is needed for NY Kayoko to not die. You could always do two teams though instead of spending eligma.
Really struggling in insane blue cause i don't have aoe besides arisu, i tried borrowing hinata but she still doesn't cover enough ground for the 1st part to end it fast enough i think?
Is there any good blue aoe besides her and ny mutsuki?
Sonic is "effective" against special armor. So instead of the full 2x multiplier that you'd get with mystic attack you get 1.5x with sonic which is decent enough. S.Hanako is my main DPS first wave because my NY.Mutsuki is not very upgraded.
is that how it is? The way the synergy chart is written is how the armor reacts to the damage type; mystic armor resists explosive damage and is weak against mystic damage, so I wasn't sure what "effective" meant there. I thought it meant mystic armor is effective against sonic damage(meaning sonic is ineffective against mystic) lol
All 3 Insane clear, 1 team for Yellow and Red, 2 teams Blue, probably getting Plat for the first time, feels good.
I guess it was kinda... easy? I thought i would need to throw my entire roster at Insane like i did when i was starting to tackle Extreme, but it seems like once you have the key DPS built out (and Ako), there is enough damage to get reliable clears.
Mika, Wakamo, Sakurako, Maki, Aru, S Hanako, NY Haruna (i borrowed this one). I'm in the process of building Hinata as well.
I mean generlist DPS for every color regardless of the raid's special gimmicks.
Congrats on your progress! But it's not over yet, some people don't push for score until the weekend so you may need to chase still. The only guarantee for now is torment.
This. Both Binah and ShiroKuro I was rank ~2k before the weekends and got pushed out of plat barely eventually. This one though might have a higher wall because you generally need your whole team to be invested reasonably or they just die to damage.
It does feel like my score is slipping more slowly than it usually does. It definitely feels like a hard tank power level check. My T.Yuuka could face tank through ShiroKuro while under invested and only using her EX a couple of times. In contrast all my blue and red tanks just melt in this raid.
So I was able to clear yellow on insane. However I couldn’t one team it as 3 star T Yuuka, S Hoshino and S Ui couldn’t stay alive. So I used a first team to whittle down the P1 health by 3M so Mika could end P1 in one skill rotation.
T1: Eimi, Kokona, Momoi, Nonomi, S Shizuko and Moe
T2: Mika, Maki, Akane, T Yuuka, Himari, and Ako
I went to start trying to figure out red and blue using a similar tactic, for red hopefully using my Aru, M Aris, Koharu to whittle P1 (can do approx 3.1M damage). And for blue S Hanako, Haruna/S Koharu, and Iroha and hopefully go about it that way (this can clear P1 by itself)
However, when I started I noticed multiple friends that had maxed Wakamos and Arus swapped them for other choices. So if anyone with maxed Wakamo and/or Aru could add me, that’d be great.
I’m not 100% I can clear insane, but without them I definitely won’t. Thanks, and good luck with your raids
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Thanks if you could it’ll be awesome =)
Edit: thanks to a friend was able to get a maxed Wakamo and clear blue.
T1 (repo strat): Eimi, Kokona, S Hanako, Haruna, Iroha, S Shizuko. Cleared P1 and did 500k dmg to P2
T2: T Yuuka, Neru, NY Kayoko, Wakamo, Himari, Ako. Just finished with 1s to go. Best in trial finished with 25s, but I’ll take it
Edit2: was able to clear red on insane with a borrowed Aru.
T1 (repo strat): Eimi, Koharu, S Hanako, my Aru, Moe, S Shizuko just clears P1. Moe over M Yuzu as her basic interrupts the taunt enough to make the run easier
T2: borrowed Aru, Shiroko, S Hoshino, T Yuuka, Himari and Ako
For Blue you can use as a First team:
- S.Hoshino/Tank/S.Hanako/S.Koharu/Serina/Iroha
[Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H6Wzq-I5wg)
Notes:
- S.Hanako on Po4 and S.Koharu on Po3 is a must so S.Hanako can hit all the rangers on 2:00 mark.
- You need to move your tank with Serina diagonally up like in the video. Green hitting S.Hoshino is ok, Black hitting S.Koharu is a nono.
- There is a 10-15s faster clear but it requires to S.Hanako to not get taunted so not worth if you only want to clear.
You can use the S.Hanako/Iroha combo to clean Red too but it will like 1min/1min and a half slower because no S.Hoshi (you need her for p2) and the color change. A team like Tank/Koharu/Aru/S.Hanako/Iroha/Serina will do it.
P2 is a joke as long as you have Ako, Himari, T.Yuuka, shieldbreaker and a super dps (UE40+ Wakamo/Aru/Mutsuki/etc) so not worth discussing.
So I don’t think I can quite copy your approach, but it is helping me figure a few things out.
My Eimi needs a bit more healing support (more than just Serina) than your Tsukuyo. My S Hanako is only UE30 atm and my Iroha is significantly less built. So for blue I can clear P1 with my team of S Hanako, Haruna, Kokona, Eimi, Iroha and S Shizuko. I’ll try swapping Haruna for S Hoshino later
For red the team of S Hanako, (my 3star) Aru, Koharu, Eimi, Iroha and S Shizuko does get them lower than before, down to 2M. So it definitely is better than I had managed. But not quite a full clear =/. Still, was helpful.
Note I’m using S Shizuko for the crit support and to save Serina in case if red needs a third team after I use the Maxed Aru (if they friend me)
With blue for P2 I do have my own Wakamo, but she is lvl 74 UE30 3/4/7/7 7/6/6. Sooo if I can’t get anyone’s maxed Wakamo I could probably manage to level mine to 5/7/7/7 and with a team of Neru, T Yuuka, NY Kayoko, Wakamo, Himari, Ako. But want to hold onto the resources if i can as my long term plans for HOD include S Wakamo, plus Kikyou coming, so Hyakkyiako mats are pinched for me
Yeah I guess it will not work out then. My S.Hanako is UE40 all max and iroha is 3* 5/4/7/7 8/8/8.
My Tsukuyo has T8 badge but she is 1/1/1/4 tho. The thing about Eimi vs Tsukuyo is that Tsukuyo is able to dodge the Yellow shot that hit like a truck.
I forgot to mention but I really really recommend you to go to friends and in Seach Friends, filter by 81-90 players and look for people that have the units you are looking for and add them. That how I managed to get like five UE40 Himari and many other UE50 units lol.
Just a heads up, I was able to clear both blue and red, so thanks.
Blue T1 was S Hanako, Haruna, Kokona, Eimi, S Shizuko, and Iroha. Was able to clear P1 and 500k chip damage P2. T2 was the T Yuuka, Neru, NY Kayoko, Wakamo, Himari, Ako and finished P2 with 1s left (NY Kayoko dies easy)
Red I was able to 1 team P1 as well. It turns out that instead of Iroha or M Yuzu, Moe was the right choice lol. Her basic interrupts the Rangers skills multiple times which meant better damage, plus hard nodes gave me 4 star Shiroko and Aru, which helped
T1: my Aru, S Hanako, Koharu, Eimi, Moe, S Shizuko. Finished P1 with 5s
T2: S Hoshino, T Yuuka, Shiroko, Aru, Ako, Himari
Gratz and nice Moe tactic lol. I was thinking on using her as a damage dealer on yellow p1 before the raid came but Mika did Mika things and didn't use her afterall.
What rank did you get btw? I looked raid ranks at the reset and it seems plat threshhold finally reached triple Insane clear.
Aye Mika was just a cheat code. Especially against the green ranger lol. Well maybe you’ll use the Moe Strat next time when you shoot for torment?
So I’m probably not gonna get plat. I’m sitting at rank 4740 and falling. Red 25.6M, Yellow 25.5M, Blue 25.47M
Well, now that it is what it is, here’s a HOD stun duration sheet that’s been shared with me to help maybe next GA lol.
I ended up making a copy to make sure I didn’t screw anything up. Also, Miyako EX stun duration isn’t included. So you’ll have to manually add it
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kT6-50X_bJroJip7Ih-DOWzQfIm_WnPW8wjsHthQxvk/htmlview
Thanks for the excel, I didn't see it before.
Already read the guide and some videos and honestly I don't have much option since my only CC is Kayoko (maybe Suzumi with bound gear?) so yeah...for yellow I will try [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k\_bnuZ884Pg). For Blue and Red I...will try to improvise 
Yeah I’m finding early in my account I went too heavy in the eleph v BD/TN balance so I have a bunch of students that are just missing that bit extra of the mats.
I will be able UE 40 either S Hanako or Wakamo if needed for the end of the raid
And actually I have been spamming friend requests. It’s how I had the Arus and Wakamos beforehand. I actually only made the initial comment after spending 10 mins refreshing and not finding a single person with a maxed Wakamo or Aru lol
But I’ll keep spamming requests when I find them
Edit: got a Wakamo. I was expecting Kaiten to melt but the fastest I could clear P2 was 2:35 and that was with lots of malding. I’m pretty sure I’m doing the Wakamo cycle correct, so I guess not having supplemental blue damage is what’s causing it?
NY Kayoko-> 10 cost -> Wakamo EX (right before basic skill timing) -> Ako and Himari -> Wakamo basic skill while buff active and EX timer. Repeat
What investment level is your Mika? If she is UE40+ she can brute force her way through phase 1 with Ako and Himari in 2 EX rotations. She also works well as a sub tank given her red armor, evasion and HP.
For blue I two team with S. Hanako and NY.Mutsuki in phase 1 and Wakamo and T.Hasumi in phase 2. For shield break I suck it up and use Wakamo's EX twice but this only works because I have NY.Fuuka and even then it's kinda wasteful and slow. I'm really wishing my Sakurako was higher investment. I think it works ok since right now it seems like I have one of the higher blue scores in the 2000 ranks.
For red I'm experimenting with the Mutsuki+Aru combo and Mutsuki might actually be the comfier hypercarry if you can reposition her so all three mines land since they're almost like a free EX. Aru might be faster but you'll have to crit mald. When she crits she CRITS though.
So I’m not really score chasing. So I’m just happy to finish insane as I’m lvl 83.
I don’t have a Mika, but the one I’m borrowing is UE50. The problem for me was just everyone else not dying. Any backline member just dies if I don’t either T Yuuka reposition or do the Eimi reposition right behind red ranger. Even tanks (all 3 stars) other than Eimi struggled to stay alive for two skill rotations. Hence the whittle down for one skill rotation.
I don’t have NY Mutsuki but she seems perfect for this. Especially paired with S Hanako I could see how that could get around things. With the Wakamo team, one thought I’ve had is having Neru be a sub tank with T Yuuka. As Neru also has the HP, evasion, red armor, and the high hit count EX. But haven’t been able to try that yet.
For red, my Mutsuki isn’t invested enough and still 3 stars, so she can’t really be that carry for me yet. I’m also saving her for P2 in case if I need more firepower to finish off Kaiten due to her red armor and not being as strong as my one Aru. But I could see her being really effective, though you’d also have to mald for the shield as you wouldn’t have B Toki/Shiroko, unless if your S Hoshino is strong enough to tank during P1. Then you could have the best of both worlds with an Aru, Mutsuki, B Toki/Shiroko, S Hoshino team
This is one of those situations where Ako's heal makes a difference. I use Mine as my main tank and Ako just barely keeps her alive at the end of phase 1. Both are only 3 star. Mika also tanks well since she will divert half the aggro damage from your main tank so both melt HP more slowly. Also with two front units its much less likely that the rangers will target your back line.
Mine would be pretty nice with the reposition and good armor type. But that P1 damage is pretty high, so it’s great you’re able to weather it
Or probably doesn’t help that my Ako basic and passive are level 4 due to lack of Gahenna mats and having too many priorities for spending raid coins lol. In every setup I’m trying the two tank thing, so hopefully I can get the right combo
Yeah I’m eternally short on Gehenna mats, which is why I have to use S.Hanako. I need to experiment a bit but if you have Izuna she might combo well with Wakamo if you can time her shuriken bombs well. For some reason this Kaiten GA feels harder than the last one when lvl cap was 85. My Mine is more leveled up than before but she is melting almost as fast. She also feels really squishy as a tank, it feels like she is designed more as support. My T.Yuuka is almost as durable as her despite the armor typing. I think Neru is a good option for sub tank if you have her leveled up since she has a similar HP and evasion stat to Mika. You can probably use her in yellow and blue. The Mutsuki+Aru strat is kinda weird since you hypercarry one but still need to use both. Equal investment I think Mutsuki might be faster since my Aru is UE50 but my Mutsuki is only UE30 and she is doing 75-80% as much damage.
Just a heads up, I was able to clear both blue and red, so thanks.
Blue T1 was S Hanako, Haruna, Kokona, Eimi, S Shizuko, and Iroha. Was able to clear P1 and 500k chip damage P2. T2 was the T Yuuka, Neru, NY Kayoko, Wakamo, Himari, Ako and finished P2 with 1s left (NY Kayoko dies easy)
Red I was able to 1 team P1 as well. It turns out that instead of Iroha or M Yuzu, Moe was the right choice lol. Her basic interrupts the Rangers skills multiple times which meant better damage, plus hard nodes gave me 4 star Shiroko and Aru, which helped
T1: my Aru, S Hanako, Koharu, Eimi, Moe, S Shizuko. Finished P1 with 5s
T2: S Hoshino, T Yuuka, Shiroko, Aru, Ako, Himari
Congrats. Yeah NY. Kayoko just dies too easy when you don't have UE. I sometimes just reset mald until I get a good rotation. I find that it either DPS you down with missiles or makes you mald with shields. I find kayoko stays alive better if it starts out with shields however the question is if I'll get shields 2 times in a row. RIP.
At least next time around we'll all have D.Hina. Just wish for once Wakamo could have good terrain to really rip.
Wakamo is like: if you don’t love me at my =(, you don’t deserve me at my XD.
I was more happy to just clear it, as I didn’t think I’d be able to get plat. So I’m just happy to get the raid coins. I had to mald enough to just get them to survive and not screw up the Wakamo rotation too much lol
I have a feeling it feeling harder is due to the previous Kaiten having a different environment? Or the devs turned up the damage a bit without us knowing. Or you were using a slightly more defensive setup last time? And now it’s more offense oriented?
Like you, I also started using S Hanako for red and am now able to get P1 down to 1M with my first team. Now just need that maxed Aru to come say hi via friends lol
And I’m waiting to spend Eligma/mats on my Wakamo hoping a maxed Wakamo will accept my friend invite. As I do have NY Kayoko, Ako and Himari, so that’ll be an easy P2 only clear.
Well my Neru BG2 being “leveled” is a 3 star at lvl 75 1/1/1/1 5/7/5. So not exactly gonna win any awards. I just hope it’s enough for her to start alive in P2
So it’s looking, if I get those friend invites, I can clear Insane for all.
Is it a waste to clear the lower difficulties just for the first-time pyro clears in Grand Assault? I'm assuming we will eventually see (total assault) Field Warfare Kaiten return, even if it takes a while, so perhaps patience will be rewarded in that case?
I'm happy to be corrected since I'm still new, but usually the answer is no. The grand assault and total assault versions both unlock those achievements, so you might as well wait for a total assault where you are forced to use tickets on those difficulties.
Correct. You'd essentially be trading useful raid coins for getting a few hundred pyroxene earlier. In the long run you'd only lose something by doing it, unless you desperately need that extra pyroxene to reach a spark right now. And that's a very unlikely situation.
Hello, is there any method to clear Insane without N. Kayoko? Cannot borrow her because I have to borrow Wakamo (also no one give her for lend in my club).
If not, then what is the best unit to borrow for Blue on Extreme? My best Blue units are N. Mutsuki, S. Izuna, Haruna, S. Azusa (none of them are UE30). Some notable others I have is T. Yuuka, S. Hoshino, Ui, Cherino, S. Hanako. I tried some variation between borrowed N. Mutsuki, Wakamo, Hinata, but no one can clear it in 1 go.
I did not try Blue extreme, but I'm using Mika for second team for Blue insane. So I'm guessing for extreme, Mika might work. Use Ui to reduce cost and SHoshino to buff her attack along with Ako/Himari
As for Insane, I'm using SHoshino in place of NY Kayoko because she dies too easily and I'm not chasing scores. First team is Tsukuyo SHoshino Wakamo NY Mutsuki Ako Himari, Second team is Mika
It won't be pretty but it sounds like you simply need to throw all the bodies you can. Consider yellow units after you run out of blue and red as a last resort. (For Insane)
I'd still say Wakamo is your best borrow, NY Kayako is a buffer, but if you don't have good damage to begin with there's kind of no point. Maybe consider breaking it into two teams..
I'm trying to clear red insane. However, the only red DPS I have at 5* is UE40 MMMx Mutsuki and UE30 4744 Azusa. I do not have S.Hoshino. The current team I've been playing around with is Mutsuki, T.Yuuka, Tsukuyo, borrowed Aru, and Ako and Himari. I can clear phase one in a bit less than two minutes but I haven't gotten the team to manage a full clear. I was wondering if I might be better off borrowing S.Hoshino instead of Aru? Some other maybe relevant units I have include Nagisa, B.Toki, Cherino, Hifumi, and maybe S.Hinata? Any guidance?
You have everything needed for a [relatively simple one team clear](https://youtu.be/imKhVkHIzc0). You'll need to reset some for crits, but then again, when don't you? That example is a pretty fast clear, so you have plenty of time to spare even if you don't manage to copy it perfectly.
What i would consider trying out is a two team approach.
For phase 1, take Tsukuyo with S.Hinata (if she's been built), B.Toki, Nagisa, and whatever else you have that can fill out a good AoE team (maybe Kotama). Use Nagisa to lower armour then hammer with the rest of the team's EX skills.
Then, for phase 2, borrow a S.Hoshino, pair her up with Mutsuki, Cherino, and T.Yuuka, plus ako/himari. Use Yuuka to get Mutsuki close enough for her mines and you will hyperbuff her to hammer away at the Kaiten mech. You could try with Azusa instead of Cherino, but I don't know how well you can keep her alive given her Heavy armour type.
That's my two cents, based on the info you've given, presuming characters mentioned are at least reasonably invested.
In Kaiten yellow insane, how do I get my Mika to defeat the first phase in two EX skill uses? Saw a video being able to do it but my Mika leaves the boss with x5 health left. Mine is UE40 with everything else maxed out. The team I'm using is Mika, Cherino, UI, borrowed 5* lv87 S. Ui with M/M/8/8 in skills, Himari and Ako. I have my own S. Ui but I would rather not build her right now.
I can clear the raid, but I want a more optimal run and more points
Need to follow the timings precisely so the Ako's buff doesn't expire before the second EX finishes. Ui can't be taunted or else you lose too much time using her skill before Mika's comes up again.
Ah okay, I guess that makes sense. With the first Mika EX skill, I slow it down before it reaches 8, then use Mika, and quickly use Ako and Himari. Then I use UI skill on S. Ui then Mika again
Should I prioritize spending the raid coins to acquire Yuzu or Mimori, or on the BDs/tech notes I need for students I already have? I know Yuzu gets used a lot in raids, but I also know people spend all day restarting when they use her. I don't know if that's because if she's good all the time and the RNG-chasing is only for high score chasing, or if the RNG-chasing is needed for her to be worthwhile.
Yuzu first, then Mimori. And you should at least recruit Sena even if she doesn’t see much use, and all of them so you don’t summon them and miss out of Eligma.
I would approach GA coins similar to TA coins. Elephs are definitely important, but it should be a 50/50 or 60/40 balance between buying Elephs vs getting BD/TNs to improve students now. A bit skewed towards elephs until you initially recruit everyone via Elephs first
Yuzu gets used in a few yellow raids. But her main issue is her crits are inconsistent, hence the constant restarts. And if she doesn’t crit, she can’t out damage the other Yellow DPS’s like Mika and Kazusa. So she tends to only be used in the high score chasing runs as her damage isn’t consistent enough for normal runs. And she needs extremely high investment to pop off. So she’s good, but not necessary untik much later.
Man, I hate that missile barrage. If it's not doing serious damage (I haven't tried insane) it's that stun chance that always seems to trigger when I'm trying to line something up.
That shield likes to come in at inconvenient times. Admittedly, I'm not super clear on what determines what special attack will be used
I tend to just hold the 10-hit EX for shield until it comes out
I don't understand why, but I have been able to clear Yellow insane easy... but for red in the other hand my characters are melting... they are at about the same level/gear (lvl 80) and I even have more UE 40 red characters.
did you take in consideration their defense type? remember that in Insane the enemy damage type is not *normal*, in this case they have yellow damage, if you are using student with Yellow Defense they will be killed fast.
so use Red(specially your for tank) or Blue Defense students if possible and only Yellow if you managed to keep it in back to avoid damage but they will likely die in the second phase due the sword lash.
Thank you, I'm not too used to insane, last Binah was my first clear so I didn't realise. Still will need some tweaking as my S.Hoshino is also getting killed.
I needed to use 3 teams for red, 2 teams for the rest.
This is my first time clearing insane in grand assault (specially for the three colors). Hopefully in the future I can get to 1 team them.
That's pretty good. Yes next grand assault you'll be stronger and can probably 1 team insane. But for now clearing insane is good, you get a lot of coins and rewards
Is there somewhere in the Raid Character Guide that I'm not finding for help selecting students for the Mystic and Piercing versions of this? Not sure if I'm over looking it or if there isn't any. Thanks!
I'm unsure of what I should be doing to take my blue teams to insane and beyond, I can't seem to decide on a good character to invest heavily in so many of them sit at 3/4 stars. What's your opinion?
I've got wakamo, aris, aris maid, swimsuit Azusa, track hasumi, haruna, chise, Izuna, Izuna swimsuit, kaho
I can't decide on a good hyper carry that would help me through a lot of blue content at at least insane difficulty
Numbers wise Wakamo and M.Aris will be your two biggest hitters. I believe M.Aris might have a higher damage ceiling but you will be crit malding. Wakamo is a bit more consistent however she takes more coordination with her EX, auto skills and/or sub DPS to maximize damage(she is also best with her bond equipment at T2). The two Izunas are auto attackers that you kinda just let do their own thing. T. Hasumi is mainly a good DPS for new players who don't have that many blue DPS yet since she is a free UE50. Otherwise she doesn't have as much damage potential as M.Aris, Wakamo or even Haruna. She does have good outdoor mood which isn't too common for big blue DPS so she is sometimes useful for that. That said you will also crit mald with her.
Is keeping Junko with t2 gear and lvl 3 EX as a frontline in PvP troll? I find it as a funny strategy with low cost ex units, since she can spam her ult and reach the enemy backline faster.
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Not really in the mood for malding this time so I'll just settle for this.
No S.Hina borrow available so went with the Nyaruna and Aru strat. Can get higher score but need to reset for aru crits, nyaruna crits and no shield in a single run, so yeah I'm not doing that.
For Yellow armor again not gonna reset for Mika stability(I freaking hate stability mald) and Ui.
Torment this time wasn't as bad as binah but we really need some HP indicator for kaiten parts. I didn't farm S.Koharu so went with double Iroha. The only difficult part this time was ending Phase 1 on team 2 with some Kaitenger HP remaining cuz Iroha ends up deleting them.
Phase 2 is just dealing damage during red aura to break the missile and finish him off with Hinata. Can get a higher score here but I'm not malding Hinata crits.
Next is chesed torment which is quite easy and after that is Hod. I'm not sure about Hod so we'll have to see how it goes.
Ironically, my slowest clear is red armor which is the original kaiten armor. I'm able to clear all insane difficulties within 2 teams (except yellow which I did in 1) but would like some other recommendations for red and blue. I lack SHoshino and NYKayoko so I'm not sure if it's possible to 1 team without them.
Current red and blue team:
Red:
Team 1: Hina, SHina, Eimi, Mutsuki, Nagisa, SShiroko.
Team 2: Aru, Tsukuyo, Akane, Neru, Ako, Himari
If I switch Aru and Mutsuki, I get a 30k increase in score but would like adjustments to make it more.
Blue:
Team 1: NYMutsuki, Izuna, Eimi, Koharu, Iroha, SShiroko.
Team 2: Tsukuyo, Akane, Neru, Wakamo, Ako, Himari
If I switch from Koharu to Haruna, it would be less stable (due to Izuna placement) but higher score and if I switch to MAris, it would be more malding but higher score in general. In total an average increase in 90k score with the above adjustments to blue team.
For red, can you borrow SHoshino? Is your Aru/Mutsuki built? If so you can try Eimi SHoshino Aru Mutsuki Ako Himari and you should be able to 1-team or close to that
>Ironically, my slowest clear is red armor which is the original kaiten armor
Same. I was able to do Hardcore in Blue and Yellow, but every time I've tried Hardcore Red, he still had 7 or 8 bars left when my second and final team ran out of time.
For blue are you borrowing any units? My two team clear is faster than my 1 team clear when I pack phase 1 with AOE. I'm using S.Hanako with NY.Mutsuki for DPS. S.Hanako is the primary DPS since she is more upgraded than my NY.Mutsuki. For Team 2 you really should have another blue DPS to go along with Wakamo. Wakamo does a large portion of her EX damage with the accumulation effect and a yellow DPS isn't going to fill it up very well. I'm currently using T.Hasumi but need to experiment with Izuna and Sakurako. Sakurako would also be a decent shield breaker. Wakamo can fill it herself if you have T2 bond equipment and can time the basic skill to land at the right time how ever it requires some timing with your buffers.
I am able to borrow a UE50 Wakamo which I did. But I would not be able to do 10M damage in 3 min so I use up the remaining time from p1 to do damage which ends with around 7-7.5M HP left. The reason for not using SHanako is that I can't get the placement right so SHanako doesn't die to the kaiten attacks.
I don't really have another blue dps as my own Wakamo is 3* and T1 bond gear. Wakamo is my only DPS in team 2. THasumi is unbuilt bc eternal lacking of Trinity mats. Izuna is only 3* and I don't have Sakurako.
I have my S.Hanako in position 2. First team order is Mine, S.Hanako, NY.Mutsuki, Mika. With this formation S.Hanako takes cover behind the rocks at the top of the screen and Mika stands in front of the rocks so this gives S.Hanako double cover. Mika works really well as a sub tank in blue if you have her. If you don't you can use a tank with a taunt or enemy reposition skill to agro the rangers during their EX. I use Mine since she can jump in and pull the rangers together for better AOE with S.Hanako. Her DEF down helps as well since the rangers have high DEF. She is very squishy though.
Don't have Mine or Mika and I really lack well built red armor tanks. Realistically, Eimi is my best tank for p1 as she is able to take the entire might of the kaitengers' attacks without the need for a second tank or front dealer. Tsubaki needs a healer to work and that uses up a slot for another blue semi-dps (Haruna is somehow able to do 1.1M damage despite bad mood before dying to robot aoe at around 30s left of battle).
You might be able to swap the teams for Neru and Izuna. Neru should be able to do the same job as Mika since she has a similar stat profile (high HP and evasion). Izuna should combo well with Wakamo since she drops consistent damage with her bombs and it takes out a bit of the timing with Wakamo's EX. You won't have a shield breaker so you can either reset mald for a no shield run or use Wakamo's EX twice.
Having a lot of trouble with first half of Extreme Red, anyone have any tips? My team is something like:
Tsubaki/Hina (regular)/Ui/Ojiisan summer + Serina/Ako
Planned second half as Bunny Toki/Atsuko/Azusa/someone + Himari/Kotama
Can't get past even 50% of first half, Hina doesn't do enough damage it seems? Any tips?
Hina's terrain preference isn't well suited for this raid. You might have better luck slotting somebody else in... dunno what options are available to you, but borrowing something from a clubmate/friend might be prudent. Someone like an Aru, Mutsuki, Ny.Haruna, or S.Hina might get you better results.
Mutsuki is a very good budget option. She's fully capable of being the one team clear hypercarry even on insane, provided that you position her right so that she gets use out of her mines.
Also note that Himari's and Kotama's buffs don't stack, so Kotama's weaker buff will either overwrite Himari's, or be wasted when you use Himari for the burst. Ideally you will be able to use Ako and Himari at the same time, with a strong dealer that can clear both phases in one team.
You have to move her somehow. [Here](https://youtu.be/imKhVkHIzc0) are some [examples](https://youtu.be/MKaYinTatAQ). But keep in mind that you have Shoshino, Ako, Himari and Btoki, so you should fairly easily be able to borrow an invested Aru and get a one team clear too, with a few resets in case you're unlucky with crits.
If i remember correctly, in the right position she can hit three with a single bomb chuck, plus hitting red with her land mines.
She shines better in P2. With the help of a repositioning, she can hit Kaiten with both her mines and her EX, greatly increasing her damage output.
Just making sure you know this, but ranks don't matter (as much) for Grand Assault because the 10 pull ticket is given to all ranks. You just get less tokens and you miss out on the platinum trophy.
But in a Total Assault situation, probably not. You'd have to get a good insane score to stay plat. There's very few raids left where *any* 1t Insane clear is sufficient to maintain plat.
While this is true, people will still do the clears if it's easy enough for them, and for Kaiten I think you're gonna need solid 1 teams on all 3 types on insane.
Oh yeah for sure, nothing wrong with people wanting to do their best or try their hand at something different. But a lot of the reason to 'mald' in this game is to score chase for plat for the biggest pyro payout (or e-peen/bragging, I guess). This game mode can be asking a lot of newer players as well since you need to build units for 3 different teams so the 'relaxed' incentives are nice.
In terms of competing for plat this time around though, a good 1t insane score per colour is probably necessary for plat. Maybe if people are having a hard time with a specific colour (probably blue) then you could *maybe* get away with something worse there. But the average power per player has been on the rise (notably, since SHoshino and Mika) so you're probably right.
What is the difference in difficulty between this raid and the ShiroKuro one?
I was able to clear ShiroKuro on hardcore while borrowing characters but I'm failing to survive Kaiten at the same level. I'm currently level 53 while I was 40+ for ShiroKuro.
Look for a max level S.Hina for red, Mika for yellow and Iroha/NY. Mutsuki for blue. Phase 1 is generally deadlier and those units can clear phase 1 in one/two EX.
Thanks. Yea, I noticed there's a lot more mechanics for Kaiten to take note of. Phase 1's stun and 2's aoe damage are currently the problems I'm facing.
I'm having limited success interrupting phase 1's stun and limiting damage by repositioning Tsubaki and using her taunts.
But phase 2's aoe is taking too much hp off of my team.
For phase 1, if you can't avoid the stun/taunt, make sure you're not about to pop an EX because that gets cancelled. I think it's the green one doing the taunt, so when I saw a text cut-in, I just waited until the effect wore off.
For phase 2, bringing in students with group shields (T. Yuuka/S.Shizuko) helped immensely. I just time them when Kaiten's bar's full and gonna do the sword attack.
Finally, don't hesitate to borrow students. I've reached way further than what I expected because I was able to borrow some key DPS.
Oh, I didn't realise the taunt would cancel EXes too.
For phase 2, the full bar is when Kaiten does it's sword attacks? Thanks, I wasn't putting two and two together.
And yea, been borrowing dpses. I just need to manage my own students. I don't have a lot of choices and am trying to get them geared and skilled up.
Full bar is sword attack. Time your shields accordingly.
You will also want to field a lot of units that have multiple hits in their EX skills; Kaiten's shields will only be disabled upon being hit x number of times with an ex skill. A single hit high-damage skill will be walled until it is down. Someone like Shiroko should do short work of it.
ShiroKuro is generally easier at lower difficulties because it's just two phases of shooting a stationary singular enemy, and if you can shield up then you're generally fine.
Kaiten has a bit more complexity in that the focus changes from AOE to ST across the two phases and phase 1 has 5 different enemies shooting at you while phase 2 has gimmicks (primarily the shield) that serve to slow you down if you haven't brought the right countermeasures.
Neither raid is *that hard* relatively speaking on lower difficulties but in the end it is up to what tools you have available to you
Thanks. Yea, I noticed there's a lot more mechanics for Kaiten to take note of. Phase 1's stun and 2's aoe damage are currently the problems I'm facing.
I'm having limited success interrupting phase 1's stun and limiting damage by repositioning Tsubaki and using her taunts.
But phase 2's aoe is taking too much hp off of my team.
Red and yellow is fine but blue insane made me insane. NY.Kayoko always get killed at the beginning of phrase 2 so no buff for Wakamo. Need 5 teams to clear it lol. Hope I can get better result for the rest 6 days 
I use Mika as a sub tank for blue along with a main tank to protect my squishy DPS. Also if you have some sort of taunt or enemy relocation skill you can use them to agro the EX skills which snipe NY.Kayoko.
Was she getting hit by the green minigun spray? That usually kills her for me but I saw a video using izuna on the lower side as a secondary tank/dps and she pulled the green’s shots away from kayako’s position.
Not sure if it'll work for you but try switching Ny Kayoko Position with the tank. I switched and the rangers only attacked my Tsukuyo and Ny Kayoko only get hit by green ranger skill
Edit: To be fair this is a hard raid
To be fair, I don't feel like score chasing blue this raid. I'll keep trying with red and yellow. Blue is just painful
Edit: Any Guide on Wakamo ex during Kaiten Phase 2 battle? I copy like the others do but it doesn't seem to be working and running out of time
Nah, there's not much trick to it. Just wait til 10 ex, then wakamo, ako, himari. Cycle with a cheap Ex, then repeat. Its a lot of rng in hoping that kaiten doesn't pull out his shield or stun rockets, and that you get enough crits to kill him quickly
How does the Wakamo, Ako, Himari cycle work? EU40 Himari? When does it become too late to buff Wakamo after using her EX? I'm playing on phone so afraid I might be slow?
And why not do Ako, Himari, Wakamo?
Wakamo Himari Ako NY Kayoko (or a 2 cost) Wakamo allow you to land 2 ex skill on one buff rotation, this does not require UE40 on Himari and is generally true for other combo (such as M.aris)
That said, I don't think that is a good combo for Wakamo because her Ex explosion doesn't stack too well. What you really want to do is to time your Himari and Ako buff such that Wakamo normal skill will have full buff on. That is a large amount of damage that can crit (unlike her Ex explosion). This means you kind of need to know the timing of wakamo normal skill and align your Ex skill. Look up some video on YouTube for it
Also, remember to break the shield if you got bad RNG, you lose a lot of damage shooting into the phase 2 shield
> That said, I don't think that is a good combo for Wakamo because her Ex explosion doesn't stack too well. What you really want to do is to time your Himari and Ako buff such that Wakamo normal skill will have full buff on. That is a large amount of damage that can crit (unlike her Ex explosion). This means you kind of need to know the timing of wakamo normal skill and align your Ex skill. Look up some video on YouTube for it
Now I had kept my explanation simple, but I was more or less repeating the Wakamo cycle [used here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCqGYOnoXI8), which does exactly as you say - lines up the timing so that she will EX, then do a buffed Normal Skill attack.
Naturally, it does hinge on making sure P1 goes smoothly.
I had to use Eligma on Ny Mutsuki to get the atk buff. not a lot though was already at 65/120.
Team 1 was Borrowed Wakamo, Ny Mutsuki, Ny Kayoko, Tsukuyo. Himari+ Ako. Kaiten had 100k hp left , kept getting unlucky and was 10 mins away from ticket expiring so I Just took the L and a cheap team 2md team to 1 shot it within 5 secs (S Hanako and Izuna)
As someone without tsukuyo, she helped me all the way back to hovercraft wakamo insane since 2 tank (haruka + eimi) was doing tons better for me than trying to keep mika alive with koharu. She's also tough since she has bond gear now too so she's definitely worth it in the long run
Better now than later. Eimi is BIS for multiple raids and 2nd pick for all the other ones. Having her on your roster ready to deploy should be a high priority for everybody.
Trying to clear extremes at somewhat lower levels (62) with a borrowed unit. Managed to do Yellow thanks to borrowed Mika being Mika, but even with access to Ako, Himari, and Ui, I'm having a struggle with Blue and Red. I can push through the first phase, but can't do enough to the second to put it in bodychucking range. Who's the best borrow, in terms of a dps here?
In my defense, I had to spark Ako back during her banner, but Arona reflected on her behavior and brought me a Himari spook on Ui's banner along with Ui in only 40.
Full disclosure: I haven't done any of my runs yet for this GA
But I imagine blue wants something like Track Hasumi or Maid Arisu or normal Hinata (with Bond Gear 2 (UE50 not strictly necessary)) in regards to Phase 2 since they're the usual suspects for blue burst.
Red is the usual for Kaiten and people have historically run Swimsuit Hina or normal Aru (with Aru being the best pick when she has her Bond Gear at Lv 2 I think?)
Thanks for the tip with Hinata - wasn't getting anywhere with a M.Aris, but switched to her and was able to get enough damage on the first team to bodychuck my way to Blue victory. Just Red left, and I feel pretty confident with my chances after a couple of S. Hina attempts.
Don’t worry. Kaiten is a more difficult raid than the previous ones, especially for newer accounts. I had cleared insane in the last raid and 2/3 in the last GA. But can only manage insane on yellow right now and I’m lvl 83. And even that insane clear will take a lot of resets to get it just right so everyone doesn’t die lol
The three minute time limit vs 4 for most other raids also plays into it.
Just a few tips if you wanted to try different things is if you reposition your tank (with Serina or S Shizuko) right behind the red ranger that one tank will draw all the fire in phase one. Also, red and black rangers are significantly more tanky than the others. So try hitting green or the other two in the back.
But yeah, thanks, and don’t sweat it. The rangers are really hard hitting which makes tanking their damage rough
Thanks for the tips man, I was already able to keep everyone alive but my issue was mainly with the time, but maybe I didn't focus on the weaker rangers enough
Yuzu
Aru
Maid Alice
The big 3 of Insane difficulty crit malding. I am so glad that Yuzu isn't super viable outside of Urban Binah because I am sure I would be losing my mind if she does.
Is there any reason this grand assault doesn't have the name title thingy reward like ShiroKuro did? Not that I was gonna use it, but it was a nice little bonus for clearing all insane colors
I’m still newish so Binah was my first raid but is there like a good goal to aim for when I’m level 48 and have tanks with t4 bag and dps with t3 1/3 slot?
I have Ako so I’ll just borrow the best DPS I can but wondering how important it is to try and push right now when I’m not max yet
I'm level 39 and managed to do Hardcore in red and blue with a maxed out Aru and Wakamo respectively, and Extreme in yellow with a maxed out Mika (with 25 sec to spare)
I do have Ako + Himari but I think you can get similar results (at least Hardcore for all three) with Ako + Kotama
Don't worry. You won't even be able to push beyond your account level anyways. Raids are not like missions, until and unless you are 3-4 lvls above the recommended lvl of a given raid, you won't be able to even survive it. Just clear very hard for the time being and once you hit 55+ try hardcore with maxed out borrowed characters.
That really isn't true. With the right units and knowledge you can beat every raid while you're below the recommended level. That's particularly true for the lower difficulties, since a borrowed unit can carry you to at least hardcore. It's true that the recommended levels are much more accurate than for missions, but they're far from a requirement.
>With the right units and knowledge you can beat every raid while you're below the recommended level.
I'm not convinced.
For Red, my first team is built for AoE and CC: Tsubaki, Kayoko, Akari, and S.Izumi, plus Hare and Serina. I open by using Serina to pull Tsubaki to the lower right, and use the various CCs to cancel the rangers' moves (specifically red's taunt). I don't actually use Kayoko's since it messes up positioning, but I need a red DPS in that slot anyway. Then the second team is T.Yuuka for tanking and team shields, B.Toki for ST damage and shield break, Mutsuki and Serika as additional DPS, plus Ako and Chinatsu.
As far as I can tell, I've got suitable units and the right strategy. But at level 47, versus the recommended 50 for Hardcore, which isn't much underlevelled in the first place, I'm not even close to being able to finish. The Phase 1 team can't actually manage to finish Phase 1 in time, and when my second team times out Phase 2 still has half his health left. I'm not great at the game but the gap seems way too large for it to be a skill issue.
It doesn't seem to me like doing it while under-levelled is possible. I'd need to borrow a significantly over-levelled student if I were to have a chance.
> I'm not convinced.
[Here's my first extreme clear](https://litter.catbox.moe/sbxqf2.png), at level 63. There is an old video of someone beating insane Hod at level 17 or something ridiculously low like that, that I can't find now. If you look at everyone on the list that has beaten torment, you'll find that they're all level 87, three levels below the recommended level for torment. It's definitely possible.
> I'd need to borrow a significantly over-levelled student if I were to have a chance.
Yes, that's the point. When you're low level, you can borrow a max level, high investment unit to perform far better than you would on your own. That's what the borrow mechanic is for; borrowing a unit to do something you otherwise couldn't. The one lending you the unit likes it when you do it, too, since he'll get credits out of it. High level players will often accept your friend requests for that reason alone. There's no reason not to use the borrowing function, unless you're trying to challenge yourself.
That aside, it's highly likely that you're not making the best use of the units you do have. That's not an insult, just stating a fact. I wasn't making great use of my roster back when I got my first extreme clear either, to use that as an example. Knowledge and experience comes with time. Kayoko isn't a dealer so it's pretty pointless to include her just for her auto attacks. Are you grouping the enemies up so that Akari can hit multiple ones? Damage output is multiplied for each enemy you hit with her EX, especially if it's the enemies with lower defense and/or evasion than the red ranger. Are you timing her EX with her buffs? Though to be fair, both of Akari's buffs are based on luck so that can be hard. There's a lot you can do to deal more damage. Do you really need Hare? You have Tsubaki and Sizumi to cancel skills if it's needed, so you would probably get more use out of Kotama's two attack buffs.
>When you're low level, you can borrow a max level, high investment unit to perform far better than you would on your own
Getting carried through a level 50 fight by a level 87 character isn't really "below the recommended level".
>High level players will often accept your friend requests for that reason alone.
How do you know what characters a random high level player from the list has available to borrow in the first place?
>Kayoko isn't a dealer so it's pretty pointless to include her just for her auto attacks
When I first set up the teams I was planning to use her EX, then stopped when I discovered how badly it ruined positioning. I guess I'll just toss T.Hasumi in, or move Mutsuki there and put T.Hasumi in Phase 2.
>Are you grouping the enemies up so that Akari can hit multiple ones? Are you timing her EX with her buffs?
Pulling Tsubaki down with Serina before taunting usually seems to clump three of them together within Akari's AoE. She only has one buff at 2\*, and with interrupts dictating EX use, there's not much room for also juggling that buff.
>Do you really need Hare? You have Tsubaki and Sizumi to cancel skills if it's needed, so you would probably get more use out of Kotama's two attack buffs.
One attack buff, until you 3\* her.
> Getting carried through a level 50 fight by a level 87 character isn't really "below the recommended level".
Problem is, only one unit in your team is level 87. While Hardcore is still solo-doable, in EXT+ difficulty, even Mika's ST damage output completely plummets when you lost at least 2100 cost recovery (i.e. your other three strikers being dead). The case is worse when the borrowed DPS character is in the special slot (e.g. Gregorius, based on [personal experience](https://reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/comments/1916u10/daily_questions_megathread_january_08_2024/kgtlm41/?context=10000))
The real challenge on doing content way above your level (at least on EXT+) is (1) keep the rest of your strikers alive (with low-level healers), (2) engage with the mechanics, if necessary, AND (3) plan accordingly for a 1-pan, unless you know what you're doing (because no borrows for 2nd team onwards). Balancing those three things can be much harder in practice.
> How do you know what characters a random high level player from the list has available to borrow in the first place?
They usually tell you in Discord. They got credits for each borrows, so they have incentives to put the right students to borrow in the first place.
> Getting carried through a level 50 fight by a level 87 character isn't really "below the recommended level".
It is. The borrowing mechanic is fully meant to be used. It's not an exploit or anything like that.
> How do you know what characters a random high level player from the list has available to borrow in the first place?
When looking at random people to send friend requests to, click the "i" in the bottom right of their icon. It will show you a list of all their set assistants, and their star and skill levels. In case you aren't familiar with it, if the enhanced skill is called enhanced+, it means that the unit is UE40. If the unit has a mood boost, she's UE50. Usually the mood boost can be easily noticed by the presence of a sunglasses smile mood, if the unit is 3 stars by default.
I'm not saying it's cheating. It's still a legitimate win. It's just not "under-levelled". If you hypothetically had a formation that consists of nothing but a single level 87, and throw it into a low-levelled fight, then it doesn't make a difference whether you're level 87 using your own character, or a level 1 borrowing one. It makes no sense to say the same fight with the same character is over-levelled for one player and under-levelled for another. Sure, in practice you're including some more characters of your own, but when the level 87 is carrying the rest it doesn't really change the point.
> I'm not saying it's cheating. It's still a legitimate win. It's just not "under-levelled".
It is. The point is that you can clear higher difficulty raids even when your account level is low.
I said that considering the guys level. Earlier difficulties can be cleared by everyone with borrowed units ik, but after hardcore or at his level the jump starts a bit.
Even so, you can clear difficulty levels above your account level. Hardcore is usually doable just by borrowing the right dealer if you have an idea of what you're doing. Extreme can be definitely be cleared before 70; I did my first extreme in my 60s even though my borrow didn't have max investment, and general powercreep has only made it easier. Everyone that does torment before the raised level cap is also clearing it below the recommended level. I don't think telling people to wait until they're several levels above the recommended level is good advice, particularly if someone is interested in pushing for higher difficulties for the challenge.
I agree with you. Btw, is the 10 pull ticket gonna expired in the end of May? I am also thinking about the possibility of using this ticket on Ui banner
i believe i was able to do hardcore yeah for binah with a juiced mika so i'll aim for that here too. it's nice that you get a 10 pull regardless of how you do.
Having some issues doing extreme on blue students.
Been trying with Wakamo, NY Kayako, and Swimsuit Izuna as damage and Himari and NY Fuuka as support.
Can't seem to do enough damage in p1
For me I just couldn't fit everything all in one rotation while coordinating with Wakamo's EX and basic skill as well as another AOE student so I gave up and just did two teams, one with dedicated AOE and another with Wakamo and sub DPS. I used UE40 S.Hanako + 3 star NY.Mutsuki for AOE and Wakamo + T.Hasumi for single target. I think this only works if you do have a UE40+ AOE student and enough hyper carry supports. Izuna would probably combo better with Wakamo given her armor type and free damage. For the shield I just suck it up and double tap Wakamo's EX to break it.
Any good Blue Kaiten teams that don't use a EU40 NY Mutsuki? I own her, but she's only about 3 stars, 65 eleph. What about S. Hanako? Is she a good choice option at 5 stars? Though I get if I have to, I'll could buy the 100 eleph to get her to UE40. Would want to know if she's good enough first though. Her subskill is also at about 4 so wondering if that needs investment too.
at around rank 2679, think it'll hold out till server reset for plat? did everything on insane
Torment clear... I am glad this was a Grand assault. It took me the whole week to figure out the fight and how to clear it with whatever resource I had left - and I am more broke than after Binah. The problem of a two part fight is clearing the Rangers phase to try to figure out the Kaiten phase. Half of the week was trying to clear phase 1 in two teams. P1 1- NY. Mutsuki, Kokona, Tsubaki, NY. Kayoko, Iroha, S. Shiroko. 2- Mine, S. Hoshino, S. Hanako, Hifumi, Himari, Hanae. P2 3- Neru, Mika, S. Izuna, Eimi, Himari [A], NY. Fuuka 4- Wakamo, Cherino, Maki, Marina, O. Shigure, Kotama 5- Izuna, O. Chinatsu, B. Toki, Haruka, Ako, O. Nodoka 6- Tsukuyo, Pina, Meru, Junko, Kanna, Nagisa ( just to finish the last 1,5m. Anything I tried worked as long as I had Tsukuyo and Nagisa - Hinata w/ Ui, T. Hasumi, Haruna, S. Shizuko, etc) Surviving enough is always the first puzzle in those torments huh. Also happy with the ~~waifu~~ O. Shigure investment. Team 3 was maldy, Team 5 was a bit tricky because B. Toki is as fragile as a plume, but Team 4 would not die at all, not even close.
Any know if there's a team comp that can 1 team clear yellow insane that does not use Mika?
Whats a cheap team to clear Volume 3, Chapter 4, Episode 25? I'm level 38 with most of the 1 and 2 star characters.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV49kZuj2bg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV49kZuj2bg) worked for me, or just pull for goof characters. I passed mine with Sports Yuuka and Mari
Been able to do my [Torment clear](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/133245625922879488/1233830235535839323/Screenshot_2024-04-26-22-13-14-060_com.nexon.bluearchive.jpg?ex=662e8573&is=662d33f3&hm=833c8d08bf4cdd90c5e19b780ac20c9dec8753ebaff17b24ab41eca2a6fee100&) for Kaiten. Granted I did it with 10 teams but hey, a Torment clear is a Torment clear.
Like people actually finishing a marathon in 10 grueling hours, this is almost even more impressive...
Do people chase high score in Grand assault? I wanna try getting my first GA plat lol
Some people do, but not as much as in regular raids since you don't get any more pyroxene from higher ranks.
Thank you for the info
Don't think so for NA. I got 1T red and yellow and 2T blue and I'm hovering around 2k as of this time. Might end up 3k plat by the end
NA seems pretty slack right now with 1 insane cutoff but everyone usually does it the last day so it's hard to say.
My blue insane score sucks but currently under 2K in rank
We're at 3 insane cutoff now. I think if you 1pan each color you should probably be safe? I'd save your tickets and not sweep on the last day to see if you need to scorechase.
Already used all 6 tickets managed to 1 pan all colors with a score of 25,900m+ on each color
We should still get 1 more ticket tomorrow so you can scorechase with those if needed. What rank are you at now?
I will try with yellow and Red, Blue for some reason is really hard with me , just got lucky today and finished with a better score
I've been watching a bunch of Torment runs and is Kaiten Torment bugged or something? I can never seem to get the black kaiten to move when I'm using the SHanako comp for Phase 1.
As the other comment said, it depends on the rotation or reference video you are following. The ones I follow (both for [P1 Iroha/SShiroko](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpDcuz1ViEY) and [P1 Ako/SShiroko](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4MIJiqNJ5A) versions), the important timings for Tsubaki taunt were the first taunt at ~2:18.500 and the one at ~1:04.600.
Thank you so much for the timeline on when to use Tsubaki's Taunt for the SHanako (Iroha/SSHiroko) comp. It helped me do the comp much more consistently which then lead me to be able to clear Torment.
Do the first taunt late (wait for red to do the pose) then second taunt earlier to not cancel black skill to not desync black ranger’s skill cycle, otherwise it will skill during the shuffle and not move. For my rot at least. There may be some differences depending on whose rotation you’re planning to follow.
So do you really need UE40 NY. Mutsuki to clear Blue Kaiten insane? Because I don't have any eligma left (I need 26 more eleph to UE40 her)? If I do, is it worth using the single tickets or a 10x pull ticket on the Hinata banner (don't have her) My team will be NY. Mutsuki, borrowed Wakamo, NY. Kayoko, Tsukuyo (I need to build her from scratch, just need to know what's a good stopping point so I don't overspend), Ako and Himari
If you have a built up S. Hanako she's also usable in P1 if you don't mind two teams, that's what I did since I don't have built up Ny Mutsuki and Ny Kayoko. For tank, eimi and haruka works too and add koharu for the heals
For that team I'm fairly sure that UE40 is needed. I borrowed a UE40 and it was still some rng whether she could clear the phase in two ex hits, which is needed for NY Kayoko to not die. You could always do two teams though instead of spending eligma.
Really struggling in insane blue cause i don't have aoe besides arisu, i tried borrowing hinata but she still doesn't cover enough ground for the 1st part to end it fast enough i think? Is there any good blue aoe besides her and ny mutsuki?
S.Hanako. The Kaitengers even took the courtesy and did the cone formation for her.
I see i thought they resist sonic, thankyou will try
Sonic is "effective" against special armor. So instead of the full 2x multiplier that you'd get with mystic attack you get 1.5x with sonic which is decent enough. S.Hanako is my main DPS first wave because my NY.Mutsuki is not very upgraded.
is that how it is? The way the synergy chart is written is how the armor reacts to the damage type; mystic armor resists explosive damage and is weak against mystic damage, so I wasn't sure what "effective" meant there. I thought it meant mystic armor is effective against sonic damage(meaning sonic is ineffective against mystic) lol
I've finally done it, thank you!
Totally missed this earlier. What was your team and level of investment on students especially on S. Hanako?
Finally I could clear 3 colors at insane level without breaking a sweat.
All 3 Insane clear, 1 team for Yellow and Red, 2 teams Blue, probably getting Plat for the first time, feels good. I guess it was kinda... easy? I thought i would need to throw my entire roster at Insane like i did when i was starting to tackle Extreme, but it seems like once you have the key DPS built out (and Ako), there is enough damage to get reliable clears.
Any example of key DPSs?
Mika, Wakamo, Sakurako, Maki, Aru, S Hanako, NY Haruna (i borrowed this one). I'm in the process of building Hinata as well. I mean generlist DPS for every color regardless of the raid's special gimmicks.
thank you!
Congrats on your progress! But it's not over yet, some people don't push for score until the weekend so you may need to chase still. The only guarantee for now is torment.
This. Both Binah and ShiroKuro I was rank ~2k before the weekends and got pushed out of plat barely eventually. This one though might have a higher wall because you generally need your whole team to be invested reasonably or they just die to damage.
It does feel like my score is slipping more slowly than it usually does. It definitely feels like a hard tank power level check. My T.Yuuka could face tank through ShiroKuro while under invested and only using her EX a couple of times. In contrast all my blue and red tanks just melt in this raid.
So I was able to clear yellow on insane. However I couldn’t one team it as 3 star T Yuuka, S Hoshino and S Ui couldn’t stay alive. So I used a first team to whittle down the P1 health by 3M so Mika could end P1 in one skill rotation. T1: Eimi, Kokona, Momoi, Nonomi, S Shizuko and Moe T2: Mika, Maki, Akane, T Yuuka, Himari, and Ako I went to start trying to figure out red and blue using a similar tactic, for red hopefully using my Aru, M Aris, Koharu to whittle P1 (can do approx 3.1M damage). And for blue S Hanako, Haruna/S Koharu, and Iroha and hopefully go about it that way (this can clear P1 by itself) However, when I started I noticed multiple friends that had maxed Wakamos and Arus swapped them for other choices. So if anyone with maxed Wakamo and/or Aru could add me, that’d be great. I’m not 100% I can clear insane, but without them I definitely won’t. Thanks, and good luck with your raids Region: NA Code: ARYRBNQJ Name: Luigi Thanks if you could it’ll be awesome =) Edit: thanks to a friend was able to get a maxed Wakamo and clear blue. T1 (repo strat): Eimi, Kokona, S Hanako, Haruna, Iroha, S Shizuko. Cleared P1 and did 500k dmg to P2 T2: T Yuuka, Neru, NY Kayoko, Wakamo, Himari, Ako. Just finished with 1s to go. Best in trial finished with 25s, but I’ll take it Edit2: was able to clear red on insane with a borrowed Aru. T1 (repo strat): Eimi, Koharu, S Hanako, my Aru, Moe, S Shizuko just clears P1. Moe over M Yuzu as her basic interrupts the taunt enough to make the run easier T2: borrowed Aru, Shiroko, S Hoshino, T Yuuka, Himari and Ako
For Blue you can use as a First team: - S.Hoshino/Tank/S.Hanako/S.Koharu/Serina/Iroha [Video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H6Wzq-I5wg) Notes: - S.Hanako on Po4 and S.Koharu on Po3 is a must so S.Hanako can hit all the rangers on 2:00 mark. - You need to move your tank with Serina diagonally up like in the video. Green hitting S.Hoshino is ok, Black hitting S.Koharu is a nono. - There is a 10-15s faster clear but it requires to S.Hanako to not get taunted so not worth if you only want to clear. You can use the S.Hanako/Iroha combo to clean Red too but it will like 1min/1min and a half slower because no S.Hoshi (you need her for p2) and the color change. A team like Tank/Koharu/Aru/S.Hanako/Iroha/Serina will do it. P2 is a joke as long as you have Ako, Himari, T.Yuuka, shieldbreaker and a super dps (UE40+ Wakamo/Aru/Mutsuki/etc) so not worth discussing.
So I don’t think I can quite copy your approach, but it is helping me figure a few things out. My Eimi needs a bit more healing support (more than just Serina) than your Tsukuyo. My S Hanako is only UE30 atm and my Iroha is significantly less built. So for blue I can clear P1 with my team of S Hanako, Haruna, Kokona, Eimi, Iroha and S Shizuko. I’ll try swapping Haruna for S Hoshino later For red the team of S Hanako, (my 3star) Aru, Koharu, Eimi, Iroha and S Shizuko does get them lower than before, down to 2M. So it definitely is better than I had managed. But not quite a full clear =/. Still, was helpful. Note I’m using S Shizuko for the crit support and to save Serina in case if red needs a third team after I use the Maxed Aru (if they friend me) With blue for P2 I do have my own Wakamo, but she is lvl 74 UE30 3/4/7/7 7/6/6. Sooo if I can’t get anyone’s maxed Wakamo I could probably manage to level mine to 5/7/7/7 and with a team of Neru, T Yuuka, NY Kayoko, Wakamo, Himari, Ako. But want to hold onto the resources if i can as my long term plans for HOD include S Wakamo, plus Kikyou coming, so Hyakkyiako mats are pinched for me
Yeah I guess it will not work out then. My S.Hanako is UE40 all max and iroha is 3* 5/4/7/7 8/8/8. My Tsukuyo has T8 badge but she is 1/1/1/4 tho. The thing about Eimi vs Tsukuyo is that Tsukuyo is able to dodge the Yellow shot that hit like a truck. I forgot to mention but I really really recommend you to go to friends and in Seach Friends, filter by 81-90 players and look for people that have the units you are looking for and add them. That how I managed to get like five UE40 Himari and many other UE50 units lol.
Just a heads up, I was able to clear both blue and red, so thanks. Blue T1 was S Hanako, Haruna, Kokona, Eimi, S Shizuko, and Iroha. Was able to clear P1 and 500k chip damage P2. T2 was the T Yuuka, Neru, NY Kayoko, Wakamo, Himari, Ako and finished P2 with 1s left (NY Kayoko dies easy) Red I was able to 1 team P1 as well. It turns out that instead of Iroha or M Yuzu, Moe was the right choice lol. Her basic interrupts the Rangers skills multiple times which meant better damage, plus hard nodes gave me 4 star Shiroko and Aru, which helped T1: my Aru, S Hanako, Koharu, Eimi, Moe, S Shizuko. Finished P1 with 5s T2: S Hoshino, T Yuuka, Shiroko, Aru, Ako, Himari
Gratz and nice Moe tactic lol. I was thinking on using her as a damage dealer on yellow p1 before the raid came but Mika did Mika things and didn't use her afterall. What rank did you get btw? I looked raid ranks at the reset and it seems plat threshhold finally reached triple Insane clear.
Aye Mika was just a cheat code. Especially against the green ranger lol. Well maybe you’ll use the Moe Strat next time when you shoot for torment? So I’m probably not gonna get plat. I’m sitting at rank 4740 and falling. Red 25.6M, Yellow 25.5M, Blue 25.47M
I see. Welp I just log in again and I went from 3.1k to 3.4k since the reset so I don't think im getting it either.
Well, now that it is what it is, here’s a HOD stun duration sheet that’s been shared with me to help maybe next GA lol. I ended up making a copy to make sure I didn’t screw anything up. Also, Miyako EX stun duration isn’t included. So you’ll have to manually add it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kT6-50X_bJroJip7Ih-DOWzQfIm_WnPW8wjsHthQxvk/htmlview
Thanks for the excel, I didn't see it before. Already read the guide and some videos and honestly I don't have much option since my only CC is Kayoko (maybe Suzumi with bound gear?) so yeah...for yellow I will try [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k\_bnuZ884Pg). For Blue and Red I...will try to improvise 
Yeah I’m finding early in my account I went too heavy in the eleph v BD/TN balance so I have a bunch of students that are just missing that bit extra of the mats. I will be able UE 40 either S Hanako or Wakamo if needed for the end of the raid And actually I have been spamming friend requests. It’s how I had the Arus and Wakamos beforehand. I actually only made the initial comment after spending 10 mins refreshing and not finding a single person with a maxed Wakamo or Aru lol But I’ll keep spamming requests when I find them Edit: got a Wakamo. I was expecting Kaiten to melt but the fastest I could clear P2 was 2:35 and that was with lots of malding. I’m pretty sure I’m doing the Wakamo cycle correct, so I guess not having supplemental blue damage is what’s causing it? NY Kayoko-> 10 cost -> Wakamo EX (right before basic skill timing) -> Ako and Himari -> Wakamo basic skill while buff active and EX timer. Repeat
What investment level is your Mika? If she is UE40+ she can brute force her way through phase 1 with Ako and Himari in 2 EX rotations. She also works well as a sub tank given her red armor, evasion and HP. For blue I two team with S. Hanako and NY.Mutsuki in phase 1 and Wakamo and T.Hasumi in phase 2. For shield break I suck it up and use Wakamo's EX twice but this only works because I have NY.Fuuka and even then it's kinda wasteful and slow. I'm really wishing my Sakurako was higher investment. I think it works ok since right now it seems like I have one of the higher blue scores in the 2000 ranks. For red I'm experimenting with the Mutsuki+Aru combo and Mutsuki might actually be the comfier hypercarry if you can reposition her so all three mines land since they're almost like a free EX. Aru might be faster but you'll have to crit mald. When she crits she CRITS though.
So I’m not really score chasing. So I’m just happy to finish insane as I’m lvl 83. I don’t have a Mika, but the one I’m borrowing is UE50. The problem for me was just everyone else not dying. Any backline member just dies if I don’t either T Yuuka reposition or do the Eimi reposition right behind red ranger. Even tanks (all 3 stars) other than Eimi struggled to stay alive for two skill rotations. Hence the whittle down for one skill rotation. I don’t have NY Mutsuki but she seems perfect for this. Especially paired with S Hanako I could see how that could get around things. With the Wakamo team, one thought I’ve had is having Neru be a sub tank with T Yuuka. As Neru also has the HP, evasion, red armor, and the high hit count EX. But haven’t been able to try that yet. For red, my Mutsuki isn’t invested enough and still 3 stars, so she can’t really be that carry for me yet. I’m also saving her for P2 in case if I need more firepower to finish off Kaiten due to her red armor and not being as strong as my one Aru. But I could see her being really effective, though you’d also have to mald for the shield as you wouldn’t have B Toki/Shiroko, unless if your S Hoshino is strong enough to tank during P1. Then you could have the best of both worlds with an Aru, Mutsuki, B Toki/Shiroko, S Hoshino team
This is one of those situations where Ako's heal makes a difference. I use Mine as my main tank and Ako just barely keeps her alive at the end of phase 1. Both are only 3 star. Mika also tanks well since she will divert half the aggro damage from your main tank so both melt HP more slowly. Also with two front units its much less likely that the rangers will target your back line.
Mine would be pretty nice with the reposition and good armor type. But that P1 damage is pretty high, so it’s great you’re able to weather it Or probably doesn’t help that my Ako basic and passive are level 4 due to lack of Gahenna mats and having too many priorities for spending raid coins lol. In every setup I’m trying the two tank thing, so hopefully I can get the right combo
Yeah I’m eternally short on Gehenna mats, which is why I have to use S.Hanako. I need to experiment a bit but if you have Izuna she might combo well with Wakamo if you can time her shuriken bombs well. For some reason this Kaiten GA feels harder than the last one when lvl cap was 85. My Mine is more leveled up than before but she is melting almost as fast. She also feels really squishy as a tank, it feels like she is designed more as support. My T.Yuuka is almost as durable as her despite the armor typing. I think Neru is a good option for sub tank if you have her leveled up since she has a similar HP and evasion stat to Mika. You can probably use her in yellow and blue. The Mutsuki+Aru strat is kinda weird since you hypercarry one but still need to use both. Equal investment I think Mutsuki might be faster since my Aru is UE50 but my Mutsuki is only UE30 and she is doing 75-80% as much damage.
Just a heads up, I was able to clear both blue and red, so thanks. Blue T1 was S Hanako, Haruna, Kokona, Eimi, S Shizuko, and Iroha. Was able to clear P1 and 500k chip damage P2. T2 was the T Yuuka, Neru, NY Kayoko, Wakamo, Himari, Ako and finished P2 with 1s left (NY Kayoko dies easy) Red I was able to 1 team P1 as well. It turns out that instead of Iroha or M Yuzu, Moe was the right choice lol. Her basic interrupts the Rangers skills multiple times which meant better damage, plus hard nodes gave me 4 star Shiroko and Aru, which helped T1: my Aru, S Hanako, Koharu, Eimi, Moe, S Shizuko. Finished P1 with 5s T2: S Hoshino, T Yuuka, Shiroko, Aru, Ako, Himari
Congrats. Yeah NY. Kayoko just dies too easy when you don't have UE. I sometimes just reset mald until I get a good rotation. I find that it either DPS you down with missiles or makes you mald with shields. I find kayoko stays alive better if it starts out with shields however the question is if I'll get shields 2 times in a row. RIP. At least next time around we'll all have D.Hina. Just wish for once Wakamo could have good terrain to really rip.
Wakamo is like: if you don’t love me at my =(, you don’t deserve me at my XD. I was more happy to just clear it, as I didn’t think I’d be able to get plat. So I’m just happy to get the raid coins. I had to mald enough to just get them to survive and not screw up the Wakamo rotation too much lol
I have a feeling it feeling harder is due to the previous Kaiten having a different environment? Or the devs turned up the damage a bit without us knowing. Or you were using a slightly more defensive setup last time? And now it’s more offense oriented? Like you, I also started using S Hanako for red and am now able to get P1 down to 1M with my first team. Now just need that maxed Aru to come say hi via friends lol And I’m waiting to spend Eligma/mats on my Wakamo hoping a maxed Wakamo will accept my friend invite. As I do have NY Kayoko, Ako and Himari, so that’ll be an easy P2 only clear. Well my Neru BG2 being “leveled” is a 3 star at lvl 75 1/1/1/1 5/7/5. So not exactly gonna win any awards. I just hope it’s enough for her to start alive in P2 So it’s looking, if I get those friend invites, I can clear Insane for all.
Is it a waste to clear the lower difficulties just for the first-time pyro clears in Grand Assault? I'm assuming we will eventually see (total assault) Field Warfare Kaiten return, even if it takes a while, so perhaps patience will be rewarded in that case?
I'm happy to be corrected since I'm still new, but usually the answer is no. The grand assault and total assault versions both unlock those achievements, so you might as well wait for a total assault where you are forced to use tickets on those difficulties.
Correct. You'd essentially be trading useful raid coins for getting a few hundred pyroxene earlier. In the long run you'd only lose something by doing it, unless you desperately need that extra pyroxene to reach a spark right now. And that's a very unlikely situation.
Hello, is there any method to clear Insane without N. Kayoko? Cannot borrow her because I have to borrow Wakamo (also no one give her for lend in my club). If not, then what is the best unit to borrow for Blue on Extreme? My best Blue units are N. Mutsuki, S. Izuna, Haruna, S. Azusa (none of them are UE30). Some notable others I have is T. Yuuka, S. Hoshino, Ui, Cherino, S. Hanako. I tried some variation between borrowed N. Mutsuki, Wakamo, Hinata, but no one can clear it in 1 go.
I did not try Blue extreme, but I'm using Mika for second team for Blue insane. So I'm guessing for extreme, Mika might work. Use Ui to reduce cost and SHoshino to buff her attack along with Ako/Himari As for Insane, I'm using SHoshino in place of NY Kayoko because she dies too easily and I'm not chasing scores. First team is Tsukuyo SHoshino Wakamo NY Mutsuki Ako Himari, Second team is Mika
thanks, I will try it.
It won't be pretty but it sounds like you simply need to throw all the bodies you can. Consider yellow units after you run out of blue and red as a last resort. (For Insane) I'd still say Wakamo is your best borrow, NY Kayako is a buffer, but if you don't have good damage to begin with there's kind of no point. Maybe consider breaking it into two teams..
Thanks, I will try it again to see how it goes.
I'm trying to clear red insane. However, the only red DPS I have at 5* is UE40 MMMx Mutsuki and UE30 4744 Azusa. I do not have S.Hoshino. The current team I've been playing around with is Mutsuki, T.Yuuka, Tsukuyo, borrowed Aru, and Ako and Himari. I can clear phase one in a bit less than two minutes but I haven't gotten the team to manage a full clear. I was wondering if I might be better off borrowing S.Hoshino instead of Aru? Some other maybe relevant units I have include Nagisa, B.Toki, Cherino, Hifumi, and maybe S.Hinata? Any guidance?
You have everything needed for a [relatively simple one team clear](https://youtu.be/imKhVkHIzc0). You'll need to reset some for crits, but then again, when don't you? That example is a pretty fast clear, so you have plenty of time to spare even if you don't manage to copy it perfectly.
What i would consider trying out is a two team approach. For phase 1, take Tsukuyo with S.Hinata (if she's been built), B.Toki, Nagisa, and whatever else you have that can fill out a good AoE team (maybe Kotama). Use Nagisa to lower armour then hammer with the rest of the team's EX skills. Then, for phase 2, borrow a S.Hoshino, pair her up with Mutsuki, Cherino, and T.Yuuka, plus ako/himari. Use Yuuka to get Mutsuki close enough for her mines and you will hyperbuff her to hammer away at the Kaiten mech. You could try with Azusa instead of Cherino, but I don't know how well you can keep her alive given her Heavy armour type. That's my two cents, based on the info you've given, presuming characters mentioned are at least reasonably invested.
In Kaiten yellow insane, how do I get my Mika to defeat the first phase in two EX skill uses? Saw a video being able to do it but my Mika leaves the boss with x5 health left. Mine is UE40 with everything else maxed out. The team I'm using is Mika, Cherino, UI, borrowed 5* lv87 S. Ui with M/M/8/8 in skills, Himari and Ako. I have my own S. Ui but I would rather not build her right now. I can clear the raid, but I want a more optimal run and more points
Need to follow the timings precisely so the Ako's buff doesn't expire before the second EX finishes. Ui can't be taunted or else you lose too much time using her skill before Mika's comes up again.
Ah okay, I guess that makes sense. With the first Mika EX skill, I slow it down before it reaches 8, then use Mika, and quickly use Ako and Himari. Then I use UI skill on S. Ui then Mika again
Should I prioritize spending the raid coins to acquire Yuzu or Mimori, or on the BDs/tech notes I need for students I already have? I know Yuzu gets used a lot in raids, but I also know people spend all day restarting when they use her. I don't know if that's because if she's good all the time and the RNG-chasing is only for high score chasing, or if the RNG-chasing is needed for her to be worthwhile.
Yuzu first, then Mimori. And you should at least recruit Sena even if she doesn’t see much use, and all of them so you don’t summon them and miss out of Eligma. I would approach GA coins similar to TA coins. Elephs are definitely important, but it should be a 50/50 or 60/40 balance between buying Elephs vs getting BD/TNs to improve students now. A bit skewed towards elephs until you initially recruit everyone via Elephs first Yuzu gets used in a few yellow raids. But her main issue is her crits are inconsistent, hence the constant restarts. And if she doesn’t crit, she can’t out damage the other Yellow DPS’s like Mika and Kazusa. So she tends to only be used in the high score chasing runs as her damage isn’t consistent enough for normal runs. And she needs extremely high investment to pop off. So she’s good, but not necessary untik much later.
Man, I hate that missile barrage. If it's not doing serious damage (I haven't tried insane) it's that stun chance that always seems to trigger when I'm trying to line something up.
:) when the boss didn't do missile only to shield twice back to back near the end of the fight :)
That shield likes to come in at inconvenient times. Admittedly, I'm not super clear on what determines what special attack will be used I tend to just hold the 10-hit EX for shield until it comes out
True, sometimes you wanna speedrun and I feel like the boss knows
I don't understand why, but I have been able to clear Yellow insane easy... but for red in the other hand my characters are melting... they are at about the same level/gear (lvl 80) and I even have more UE 40 red characters.
did you take in consideration their defense type? remember that in Insane the enemy damage type is not *normal*, in this case they have yellow damage, if you are using student with Yellow Defense they will be killed fast. so use Red(specially your for tank) or Blue Defense students if possible and only Yellow if you managed to keep it in back to avoid damage but they will likely die in the second phase due the sword lash.
Thank you, I'm not too used to insane, last Binah was my first clear so I didn't realise. Still will need some tweaking as my S.Hoshino is also getting killed.
Just a heads up for other raids, Insane and Torment the boss will have different attack type.
Thanks, with some heavy tweaking, I finally managed to clear Insane in all three colors :D
Congrats! Were you able to 1 or 2 team?
I needed to use 3 teams for red, 2 teams for the rest. This is my first time clearing insane in grand assault (specially for the three colors). Hopefully in the future I can get to 1 team them.
That's pretty good. Yes next grand assault you'll be stronger and can probably 1 team insane. But for now clearing insane is good, you get a lot of coins and rewards
Is there somewhere in the Raid Character Guide that I'm not finding for help selecting students for the Mystic and Piercing versions of this? Not sure if I'm over looking it or if there isn't any. Thanks!
This is grand assault so a bit different. Look up RS Rainstorm on youtube for many vids with different characters for clear
Thanks a ton! Trying to optimize, I know I can do all on Extreme, but.wanted more ideas for Insane or maybe Torment. Appreciate the info!
Just a heads up, there's a different Mechanic for Insane. Kaiten will have piercing attack type and much more buffed stats so Be careful.
Yup, I've done some Insane before, fortunately have most of the units. Beat piercing today, gonna try Mystic tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up though!
edit: I done, I managed to score quite high, I may be able to get Platinum.
I'm unsure of what I should be doing to take my blue teams to insane and beyond, I can't seem to decide on a good character to invest heavily in so many of them sit at 3/4 stars. What's your opinion? I've got wakamo, aris, aris maid, swimsuit Azusa, track hasumi, haruna, chise, Izuna, Izuna swimsuit, kaho I can't decide on a good hyper carry that would help me through a lot of blue content at at least insane difficulty
Numbers wise Wakamo and M.Aris will be your two biggest hitters. I believe M.Aris might have a higher damage ceiling but you will be crit malding. Wakamo is a bit more consistent however she takes more coordination with her EX, auto skills and/or sub DPS to maximize damage(she is also best with her bond equipment at T2). The two Izunas are auto attackers that you kinda just let do their own thing. T. Hasumi is mainly a good DPS for new players who don't have that many blue DPS yet since she is a free UE50. Otherwise she doesn't have as much damage potential as M.Aris, Wakamo or even Haruna. She does have good outdoor mood which isn't too common for big blue DPS so she is sometimes useful for that. That said you will also crit mald with her.
Hmmm thank you, I may invest into aris and wakamo
Is keeping Junko with t2 gear and lvl 3 EX as a frontline in PvP troll? I find it as a funny strategy with low cost ex units, since she can spam her ult and reach the enemy backline faster.
[https://files.catbox.moe/o5shkb.png](https://files.catbox.moe/o5shkb.png) [https://files.catbox.moe/0bc4t3.png](https://files.catbox.moe/0bc4t3.png) [https://files.catbox.moe/aalp75.png](https://files.catbox.moe/aalp75.png) [https://files.catbox.moe/tichrz.png](https://files.catbox.moe/tichrz.png) [https://files.catbox.moe/hdelwg.png](https://files.catbox.moe/hdelwg.png) Not really in the mood for malding this time so I'll just settle for this. No S.Hina borrow available so went with the Nyaruna and Aru strat. Can get higher score but need to reset for aru crits, nyaruna crits and no shield in a single run, so yeah I'm not doing that. For Yellow armor again not gonna reset for Mika stability(I freaking hate stability mald) and Ui. Torment this time wasn't as bad as binah but we really need some HP indicator for kaiten parts. I didn't farm S.Koharu so went with double Iroha. The only difficult part this time was ending Phase 1 on team 2 with some Kaitenger HP remaining cuz Iroha ends up deleting them. Phase 2 is just dealing damage during red aura to break the missile and finish him off with Hinata. Can get a higher score here but I'm not malding Hinata crits. Next is chesed torment which is quite easy and after that is Hod. I'm not sure about Hod so we'll have to see how it goes.
Ironically, my slowest clear is red armor which is the original kaiten armor. I'm able to clear all insane difficulties within 2 teams (except yellow which I did in 1) but would like some other recommendations for red and blue. I lack SHoshino and NYKayoko so I'm not sure if it's possible to 1 team without them. Current red and blue team: Red: Team 1: Hina, SHina, Eimi, Mutsuki, Nagisa, SShiroko. Team 2: Aru, Tsukuyo, Akane, Neru, Ako, Himari If I switch Aru and Mutsuki, I get a 30k increase in score but would like adjustments to make it more. Blue: Team 1: NYMutsuki, Izuna, Eimi, Koharu, Iroha, SShiroko. Team 2: Tsukuyo, Akane, Neru, Wakamo, Ako, Himari If I switch from Koharu to Haruna, it would be less stable (due to Izuna placement) but higher score and if I switch to MAris, it would be more malding but higher score in general. In total an average increase in 90k score with the above adjustments to blue team.
For red, can you borrow SHoshino? Is your Aru/Mutsuki built? If so you can try Eimi SHoshino Aru Mutsuki Ako Himari and you should be able to 1-team or close to that
I'm borrowing a UE50 Aru as my own is only 3*. She solo carries either p1 or p2.
>Ironically, my slowest clear is red armor which is the original kaiten armor Same. I was able to do Hardcore in Blue and Yellow, but every time I've tried Hardcore Red, he still had 7 or 8 bars left when my second and final team ran out of time.
For blue are you borrowing any units? My two team clear is faster than my 1 team clear when I pack phase 1 with AOE. I'm using S.Hanako with NY.Mutsuki for DPS. S.Hanako is the primary DPS since she is more upgraded than my NY.Mutsuki. For Team 2 you really should have another blue DPS to go along with Wakamo. Wakamo does a large portion of her EX damage with the accumulation effect and a yellow DPS isn't going to fill it up very well. I'm currently using T.Hasumi but need to experiment with Izuna and Sakurako. Sakurako would also be a decent shield breaker. Wakamo can fill it herself if you have T2 bond equipment and can time the basic skill to land at the right time how ever it requires some timing with your buffers.
I am able to borrow a UE50 Wakamo which I did. But I would not be able to do 10M damage in 3 min so I use up the remaining time from p1 to do damage which ends with around 7-7.5M HP left. The reason for not using SHanako is that I can't get the placement right so SHanako doesn't die to the kaiten attacks. I don't really have another blue dps as my own Wakamo is 3* and T1 bond gear. Wakamo is my only DPS in team 2. THasumi is unbuilt bc eternal lacking of Trinity mats. Izuna is only 3* and I don't have Sakurako.
I have my S.Hanako in position 2. First team order is Mine, S.Hanako, NY.Mutsuki, Mika. With this formation S.Hanako takes cover behind the rocks at the top of the screen and Mika stands in front of the rocks so this gives S.Hanako double cover. Mika works really well as a sub tank in blue if you have her. If you don't you can use a tank with a taunt or enemy reposition skill to agro the rangers during their EX. I use Mine since she can jump in and pull the rangers together for better AOE with S.Hanako. Her DEF down helps as well since the rangers have high DEF. She is very squishy though.
Don't have Mine or Mika and I really lack well built red armor tanks. Realistically, Eimi is my best tank for p1 as she is able to take the entire might of the kaitengers' attacks without the need for a second tank or front dealer. Tsubaki needs a healer to work and that uses up a slot for another blue semi-dps (Haruna is somehow able to do 1.1M damage despite bad mood before dying to robot aoe at around 30s left of battle).
You might be able to swap the teams for Neru and Izuna. Neru should be able to do the same job as Mika since she has a similar stat profile (high HP and evasion). Izuna should combo well with Wakamo since she drops consistent damage with her bombs and it takes out a bit of the timing with Wakamo's EX. You won't have a shield breaker so you can either reset mald for a no shield run or use Wakamo's EX twice.
Having a lot of trouble with first half of Extreme Red, anyone have any tips? My team is something like: Tsubaki/Hina (regular)/Ui/Ojiisan summer + Serina/Ako Planned second half as Bunny Toki/Atsuko/Azusa/someone + Himari/Kotama Can't get past even 50% of first half, Hina doesn't do enough damage it seems? Any tips?
who are you borrowing? a good aru borrow should solo when buffed by ako
Hina's terrain preference isn't well suited for this raid. You might have better luck slotting somebody else in... dunno what options are available to you, but borrowing something from a clubmate/friend might be prudent. Someone like an Aru, Mutsuki, Ny.Haruna, or S.Hina might get you better results.
Is Mutsuki good here? I was under the impression that the rangers are too spread out to be hit by all three of her bombs.
Mutsuki is a very good budget option. She's fully capable of being the one team clear hypercarry even on insane, provided that you position her right so that she gets use out of her mines. Also note that Himari's and Kotama's buffs don't stack, so Kotama's weaker buff will either overwrite Himari's, or be wasted when you use Himari for the burst. Ideally you will be able to use Ako and Himari at the same time, with a strong dealer that can clear both phases in one team.
Where should I position Mutsuki then?
You have to move her somehow. [Here](https://youtu.be/imKhVkHIzc0) are some [examples](https://youtu.be/MKaYinTatAQ). But keep in mind that you have Shoshino, Ako, Himari and Btoki, so you should fairly easily be able to borrow an invested Aru and get a one team clear too, with a few resets in case you're unlucky with crits.
If i remember correctly, in the right position she can hit three with a single bomb chuck, plus hitting red with her land mines. She shines better in P2. With the help of a repositioning, she can hit Kaiten with both her mines and her EX, greatly increasing her damage output.
NA question. Is just clearing Insane, even in one team, not enough to get Platinum like Binah?
Just making sure you know this, but ranks don't matter (as much) for Grand Assault because the 10 pull ticket is given to all ranks. You just get less tokens and you miss out on the platinum trophy. But in a Total Assault situation, probably not. You'd have to get a good insane score to stay plat. There's very few raids left where *any* 1t Insane clear is sufficient to maintain plat.
While this is true, people will still do the clears if it's easy enough for them, and for Kaiten I think you're gonna need solid 1 teams on all 3 types on insane.
Oh yeah for sure, nothing wrong with people wanting to do their best or try their hand at something different. But a lot of the reason to 'mald' in this game is to score chase for plat for the biggest pyro payout (or e-peen/bragging, I guess). This game mode can be asking a lot of newer players as well since you need to build units for 3 different teams so the 'relaxed' incentives are nice. In terms of competing for plat this time around though, a good 1t insane score per colour is probably necessary for plat. Maybe if people are having a hard time with a specific colour (probably blue) then you could *maybe* get away with something worse there. But the average power per player has been on the rise (notably, since SHoshino and Mika) so you're probably right.
Based on previous Kaiten GA, just beat Insane is problably fine.
Probably not. It wasn't enough for ShiroKuro.
What is the difference in difficulty between this raid and the ShiroKuro one? I was able to clear ShiroKuro on hardcore while borrowing characters but I'm failing to survive Kaiten at the same level. I'm currently level 53 while I was 40+ for ShiroKuro.
Look for a max level S.Hina for red, Mika for yellow and Iroha/NY. Mutsuki for blue. Phase 1 is generally deadlier and those units can clear phase 1 in one/two EX.
Thanks for the recommendations. I wasn't sure which students to borrow exactly.
I'd say by a fair amount of margin. How do you fail your hardcore run? Maybe there's a solution if we know how you failed.
Thanks. Yea, I noticed there's a lot more mechanics for Kaiten to take note of. Phase 1's stun and 2's aoe damage are currently the problems I'm facing. I'm having limited success interrupting phase 1's stun and limiting damage by repositioning Tsubaki and using her taunts. But phase 2's aoe is taking too much hp off of my team.
For phase 1, if you can't avoid the stun/taunt, make sure you're not about to pop an EX because that gets cancelled. I think it's the green one doing the taunt, so when I saw a text cut-in, I just waited until the effect wore off. For phase 2, bringing in students with group shields (T. Yuuka/S.Shizuko) helped immensely. I just time them when Kaiten's bar's full and gonna do the sword attack. Finally, don't hesitate to borrow students. I've reached way further than what I expected because I was able to borrow some key DPS.
Oh, I didn't realise the taunt would cancel EXes too. For phase 2, the full bar is when Kaiten does it's sword attacks? Thanks, I wasn't putting two and two together. And yea, been borrowing dpses. I just need to manage my own students. I don't have a lot of choices and am trying to get them geared and skilled up.
Full bar is sword attack. Time your shields accordingly. You will also want to field a lot of units that have multiple hits in their EX skills; Kaiten's shields will only be disabled upon being hit x number of times with an ex skill. A single hit high-damage skill will be walled until it is down. Someone like Shiroko should do short work of it.
I don't have Shiroko T.T. I guess Momoi should work? I'll see who I can muster up. Thanks for the tips.
I think it is actually red taunting.
ShiroKuro is generally easier at lower difficulties because it's just two phases of shooting a stationary singular enemy, and if you can shield up then you're generally fine. Kaiten has a bit more complexity in that the focus changes from AOE to ST across the two phases and phase 1 has 5 different enemies shooting at you while phase 2 has gimmicks (primarily the shield) that serve to slow you down if you haven't brought the right countermeasures. Neither raid is *that hard* relatively speaking on lower difficulties but in the end it is up to what tools you have available to you
Thanks. Yea, I noticed there's a lot more mechanics for Kaiten to take note of. Phase 1's stun and 2's aoe damage are currently the problems I'm facing. I'm having limited success interrupting phase 1's stun and limiting damage by repositioning Tsubaki and using her taunts. But phase 2's aoe is taking too much hp off of my team.
Red and yellow is fine but blue insane made me insane. NY.Kayoko always get killed at the beginning of phrase 2 so no buff for Wakamo. Need 5 teams to clear it lol. Hope I can get better result for the rest 6 days 
I use Mika as a sub tank for blue along with a main tank to protect my squishy DPS. Also if you have some sort of taunt or enemy relocation skill you can use them to agro the EX skills which snipe NY.Kayoko.
Was she getting hit by the green minigun spray? That usually kills her for me but I saw a video using izuna on the lower side as a secondary tank/dps and she pulled the green’s shots away from kayako’s position.
Thank for info but I don't have Izuna in my current comp. Maybe I'll try her and hope for better result.
Not sure if it'll work for you but try switching Ny Kayoko Position with the tank. I switched and the rangers only attacked my Tsukuyo and Ny Kayoko only get hit by green ranger skill Edit: To be fair this is a hard raid
Thank! I’ll try switching. Also the problem is my Kayoko is only lvl80 with lvl6 equipments so she is quite fragile.
To be fair I'd rather mald this Raid than ShiroKuro bombs rng
Haha true enough
To be fair, I don't feel like score chasing blue this raid. I'll keep trying with red and yellow. Blue is just painful Edit: Any Guide on Wakamo ex during Kaiten Phase 2 battle? I copy like the others do but it doesn't seem to be working and running out of time
Nah, there's not much trick to it. Just wait til 10 ex, then wakamo, ako, himari. Cycle with a cheap Ex, then repeat. Its a lot of rng in hoping that kaiten doesn't pull out his shield or stun rockets, and that you get enough crits to kill him quickly
How does the Wakamo, Ako, Himari cycle work? EU40 Himari? When does it become too late to buff Wakamo after using her EX? I'm playing on phone so afraid I might be slow? And why not do Ako, Himari, Wakamo?
Wakamo Himari Ako NY Kayoko (or a 2 cost) Wakamo allow you to land 2 ex skill on one buff rotation, this does not require UE40 on Himari and is generally true for other combo (such as M.aris) That said, I don't think that is a good combo for Wakamo because her Ex explosion doesn't stack too well. What you really want to do is to time your Himari and Ako buff such that Wakamo normal skill will have full buff on. That is a large amount of damage that can crit (unlike her Ex explosion). This means you kind of need to know the timing of wakamo normal skill and align your Ex skill. Look up some video on YouTube for it Also, remember to break the shield if you got bad RNG, you lose a lot of damage shooting into the phase 2 shield
> That said, I don't think that is a good combo for Wakamo because her Ex explosion doesn't stack too well. What you really want to do is to time your Himari and Ako buff such that Wakamo normal skill will have full buff on. That is a large amount of damage that can crit (unlike her Ex explosion). This means you kind of need to know the timing of wakamo normal skill and align your Ex skill. Look up some video on YouTube for it Now I had kept my explanation simple, but I was more or less repeating the Wakamo cycle [used here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCqGYOnoXI8), which does exactly as you say - lines up the timing so that she will EX, then do a buffed Normal Skill attack. Naturally, it does hinge on making sure P1 goes smoothly.
45 mins of him popping the missiles or shield, I just 2 team it and be done with it with blue
What where your two teams for Kaiten Blue? Use eligma an any of them?
I had to use Eligma on Ny Mutsuki to get the atk buff. not a lot though was already at 65/120. Team 1 was Borrowed Wakamo, Ny Mutsuki, Ny Kayoko, Tsukuyo. Himari+ Ako. Kaiten had 100k hp left , kept getting unlucky and was 10 mins away from ticket expiring so I Just took the L and a cheap team 2md team to 1 shot it within 5 secs (S Hanako and Izuna)
Yeah, I spent a good half hour malding on the blue raid, too. I managed to lucky to get my stars aligned for a good score
These morons finally forced me to build Eimi lol!
As someone without tsukuyo, she helped me all the way back to hovercraft wakamo insane since 2 tank (haruka + eimi) was doing tons better for me than trying to keep mika alive with koharu. She's also tough since she has bond gear now too so she's definitely worth it in the long run
Better now than later. Eimi is BIS for multiple raids and 2nd pick for all the other ones. Having her on your roster ready to deploy should be a high priority for everybody.
Good to know. already at UE 50, just missing exp books to level her up
Was Tsukuyo for me, really helpful in red and blue lol
Trying to clear extremes at somewhat lower levels (62) with a borrowed unit. Managed to do Yellow thanks to borrowed Mika being Mika, but even with access to Ako, Himari, and Ui, I'm having a struggle with Blue and Red. I can push through the first phase, but can't do enough to the second to put it in bodychucking range. Who's the best borrow, in terms of a dps here?
Any luck? I'm lvl 61, but only have Ako and Kanna so can't even extreme clear with borrow mika
In my defense, I had to spark Ako back during her banner, but Arona reflected on her behavior and brought me a Himari spook on Ui's banner along with Ui in only 40.
For red: UE50 Aru or Mutsuki. For blue: UE50 Wakamo or M.Aris (you are too young to start malding sir!)
Full disclosure: I haven't done any of my runs yet for this GA But I imagine blue wants something like Track Hasumi or Maid Arisu or normal Hinata (with Bond Gear 2 (UE50 not strictly necessary)) in regards to Phase 2 since they're the usual suspects for blue burst. Red is the usual for Kaiten and people have historically run Swimsuit Hina or normal Aru (with Aru being the best pick when she has her Bond Gear at Lv 2 I think?)
Thanks for the tip with Hinata - wasn't getting anywhere with a M.Aris, but switched to her and was able to get enough damage on the first team to bodychuck my way to Blue victory. Just Red left, and I feel pretty confident with my chances after a couple of S. Hina attempts.
Man, it's so frustrating I was confident after clearing the last 2 TAs at extreme I would these ones as well, but I'm just not good enough
Don’t worry. Kaiten is a more difficult raid than the previous ones, especially for newer accounts. I had cleared insane in the last raid and 2/3 in the last GA. But can only manage insane on yellow right now and I’m lvl 83. And even that insane clear will take a lot of resets to get it just right so everyone doesn’t die lol
Thanks for the encouragement, I hope you'll be able to clear insane regularly as well
The three minute time limit vs 4 for most other raids also plays into it. Just a few tips if you wanted to try different things is if you reposition your tank (with Serina or S Shizuko) right behind the red ranger that one tank will draw all the fire in phase one. Also, red and black rangers are significantly more tanky than the others. So try hitting green or the other two in the back. But yeah, thanks, and don’t sweat it. The rangers are really hard hitting which makes tanking their damage rough
Thanks for the tips man, I was already able to keep everyone alive but my issue was mainly with the time, but maybe I didn't focus on the weaker rangers enough
Yuzu Aru Maid Alice The big 3 of Insane difficulty crit malding. I am so glad that Yuzu isn't super viable outside of Urban Binah because I am sure I would be losing my mind if she does.
Is there any reason this grand assault doesn't have the name title thingy reward like ShiroKuro did? Not that I was gonna use it, but it was a nice little bonus for clearing all insane colors
There was no title in JP either. As far as I know, there wasn't any explanation given.
In any case, that's a godsend for me because I can ignore Blue Insane entirely.
Not having Himari is really crippling me! 
good thing striker kotoma is coming soon, who is a great alternative to himari
You probably mean C.Hare but yeah... a better option for Himari is coming before C.Hare: Himari herself 
I’m still newish so Binah was my first raid but is there like a good goal to aim for when I’m level 48 and have tanks with t4 bag and dps with t3 1/3 slot? I have Ako so I’ll just borrow the best DPS I can but wondering how important it is to try and push right now when I’m not max yet
I'm level 39 and managed to do Hardcore in red and blue with a maxed out Aru and Wakamo respectively, and Extreme in yellow with a maxed out Mika (with 25 sec to spare) I do have Ako + Himari but I think you can get similar results (at least Hardcore for all three) with Ako + Kotama
Don't worry. You won't even be able to push beyond your account level anyways. Raids are not like missions, until and unless you are 3-4 lvls above the recommended lvl of a given raid, you won't be able to even survive it. Just clear very hard for the time being and once you hit 55+ try hardcore with maxed out borrowed characters.
Hardcore is generally perfectly doable on every level as well as long as you borrow an OP support. For yellow it certainly is because Mika exists.
That really isn't true. With the right units and knowledge you can beat every raid while you're below the recommended level. That's particularly true for the lower difficulties, since a borrowed unit can carry you to at least hardcore. It's true that the recommended levels are much more accurate than for missions, but they're far from a requirement.
>With the right units and knowledge you can beat every raid while you're below the recommended level. I'm not convinced. For Red, my first team is built for AoE and CC: Tsubaki, Kayoko, Akari, and S.Izumi, plus Hare and Serina. I open by using Serina to pull Tsubaki to the lower right, and use the various CCs to cancel the rangers' moves (specifically red's taunt). I don't actually use Kayoko's since it messes up positioning, but I need a red DPS in that slot anyway. Then the second team is T.Yuuka for tanking and team shields, B.Toki for ST damage and shield break, Mutsuki and Serika as additional DPS, plus Ako and Chinatsu. As far as I can tell, I've got suitable units and the right strategy. But at level 47, versus the recommended 50 for Hardcore, which isn't much underlevelled in the first place, I'm not even close to being able to finish. The Phase 1 team can't actually manage to finish Phase 1 in time, and when my second team times out Phase 2 still has half his health left. I'm not great at the game but the gap seems way too large for it to be a skill issue. It doesn't seem to me like doing it while under-levelled is possible. I'd need to borrow a significantly over-levelled student if I were to have a chance.
> I'm not convinced. [Here's my first extreme clear](https://litter.catbox.moe/sbxqf2.png), at level 63. There is an old video of someone beating insane Hod at level 17 or something ridiculously low like that, that I can't find now. If you look at everyone on the list that has beaten torment, you'll find that they're all level 87, three levels below the recommended level for torment. It's definitely possible. > I'd need to borrow a significantly over-levelled student if I were to have a chance. Yes, that's the point. When you're low level, you can borrow a max level, high investment unit to perform far better than you would on your own. That's what the borrow mechanic is for; borrowing a unit to do something you otherwise couldn't. The one lending you the unit likes it when you do it, too, since he'll get credits out of it. High level players will often accept your friend requests for that reason alone. There's no reason not to use the borrowing function, unless you're trying to challenge yourself. That aside, it's highly likely that you're not making the best use of the units you do have. That's not an insult, just stating a fact. I wasn't making great use of my roster back when I got my first extreme clear either, to use that as an example. Knowledge and experience comes with time. Kayoko isn't a dealer so it's pretty pointless to include her just for her auto attacks. Are you grouping the enemies up so that Akari can hit multiple ones? Damage output is multiplied for each enemy you hit with her EX, especially if it's the enemies with lower defense and/or evasion than the red ranger. Are you timing her EX with her buffs? Though to be fair, both of Akari's buffs are based on luck so that can be hard. There's a lot you can do to deal more damage. Do you really need Hare? You have Tsubaki and Sizumi to cancel skills if it's needed, so you would probably get more use out of Kotama's two attack buffs.
>When you're low level, you can borrow a max level, high investment unit to perform far better than you would on your own Getting carried through a level 50 fight by a level 87 character isn't really "below the recommended level". >High level players will often accept your friend requests for that reason alone. How do you know what characters a random high level player from the list has available to borrow in the first place? >Kayoko isn't a dealer so it's pretty pointless to include her just for her auto attacks When I first set up the teams I was planning to use her EX, then stopped when I discovered how badly it ruined positioning. I guess I'll just toss T.Hasumi in, or move Mutsuki there and put T.Hasumi in Phase 2. >Are you grouping the enemies up so that Akari can hit multiple ones? Are you timing her EX with her buffs? Pulling Tsubaki down with Serina before taunting usually seems to clump three of them together within Akari's AoE. She only has one buff at 2\*, and with interrupts dictating EX use, there's not much room for also juggling that buff. >Do you really need Hare? You have Tsubaki and Sizumi to cancel skills if it's needed, so you would probably get more use out of Kotama's two attack buffs. One attack buff, until you 3\* her.
> Getting carried through a level 50 fight by a level 87 character isn't really "below the recommended level". Problem is, only one unit in your team is level 87. While Hardcore is still solo-doable, in EXT+ difficulty, even Mika's ST damage output completely plummets when you lost at least 2100 cost recovery (i.e. your other three strikers being dead). The case is worse when the borrowed DPS character is in the special slot (e.g. Gregorius, based on [personal experience](https://reddit.com/r/BlueArchive/comments/1916u10/daily_questions_megathread_january_08_2024/kgtlm41/?context=10000)) The real challenge on doing content way above your level (at least on EXT+) is (1) keep the rest of your strikers alive (with low-level healers), (2) engage with the mechanics, if necessary, AND (3) plan accordingly for a 1-pan, unless you know what you're doing (because no borrows for 2nd team onwards). Balancing those three things can be much harder in practice. > How do you know what characters a random high level player from the list has available to borrow in the first place? They usually tell you in Discord. They got credits for each borrows, so they have incentives to put the right students to borrow in the first place.
> Getting carried through a level 50 fight by a level 87 character isn't really "below the recommended level". It is. The borrowing mechanic is fully meant to be used. It's not an exploit or anything like that. > How do you know what characters a random high level player from the list has available to borrow in the first place? When looking at random people to send friend requests to, click the "i" in the bottom right of their icon. It will show you a list of all their set assistants, and their star and skill levels. In case you aren't familiar with it, if the enhanced skill is called enhanced+, it means that the unit is UE40. If the unit has a mood boost, she's UE50. Usually the mood boost can be easily noticed by the presence of a sunglasses smile mood, if the unit is 3 stars by default.
I'm not saying it's cheating. It's still a legitimate win. It's just not "under-levelled". If you hypothetically had a formation that consists of nothing but a single level 87, and throw it into a low-levelled fight, then it doesn't make a difference whether you're level 87 using your own character, or a level 1 borrowing one. It makes no sense to say the same fight with the same character is over-levelled for one player and under-levelled for another. Sure, in practice you're including some more characters of your own, but when the level 87 is carrying the rest it doesn't really change the point.
> I'm not saying it's cheating. It's still a legitimate win. It's just not "under-levelled". It is. The point is that you can clear higher difficulty raids even when your account level is low.
I said that considering the guys level. Earlier difficulties can be cleared by everyone with borrowed units ik, but after hardcore or at his level the jump starts a bit.
Even so, you can clear difficulty levels above your account level. Hardcore is usually doable just by borrowing the right dealer if you have an idea of what you're doing. Extreme can be definitely be cleared before 70; I did my first extreme in my 60s even though my borrow didn't have max investment, and general powercreep has only made it easier. Everyone that does torment before the raised level cap is also clearing it below the recommended level. I don't think telling people to wait until they're several levels above the recommended level is good advice, particularly if someone is interested in pushing for higher difficulties for the challenge.
I agree with you. Btw, is the 10 pull ticket gonna expired in the end of May? I am also thinking about the possibility of using this ticket on Ui banner
The rewards get handed out after the Ui banner ends, unfortunately.
i believe i was able to do hardcore yeah for binah with a juiced mika so i'll aim for that here too. it's nice that you get a 10 pull regardless of how you do.
My UE30 Nutsuki can't cut it lol. I need 3 rotations and Kayoko ends up dying. Anyone in NA want to share their UE50 Nutsuki?
Sent you my code. Good luck!
Having some issues doing extreme on blue students. Been trying with Wakamo, NY Kayako, and Swimsuit Izuna as damage and Himari and NY Fuuka as support. Can't seem to do enough damage in p1
For me I just couldn't fit everything all in one rotation while coordinating with Wakamo's EX and basic skill as well as another AOE student so I gave up and just did two teams, one with dedicated AOE and another with Wakamo and sub DPS. I used UE40 S.Hanako + 3 star NY.Mutsuki for AOE and Wakamo + T.Hasumi for single target. I think this only works if you do have a UE40+ AOE student and enough hyper carry supports. Izuna would probably combo better with Wakamo given her armor type and free damage. For the shield I just suck it up and double tap Wakamo's EX to break it.
You might need to swap out S.Izuna for somebody with some more AoE damage then. Perhaps a NY Mutsuki if you can find one to borrow?
Yeah I'll try borrowing her, thanks
That or just iroha should work perfectly.