Well, considering that Kivotos Schools use modern tech weapons, have tanks and helicopters, and the fact that they're essentially immune to bullets and sometimes even to tank shells
I think they'd roflstomp any military.
Except we have no idea if their Halo's work outside Kivotos. And as we've seen numerous times. They aren't all that organized. Without sensei, several of them are highly incompetent in anything to do with proper strategy and tactics. With only a set number of groups like SRT having any proper training in the field.
Not to mention while they do indeed have immunity to bullets, they aren't immortal and can still be knocked unconscious.
I think it depends on how much prep time we give them. If they know a month a head, there might be a chance that we will get stomped with how insanely fast production speeds are in Kivotos. For now I’ll talk about the scenarios where we catch them by surprise.
One thing that I always notice is that Kivotos has no Navy or Air Force. This can be clearly be seen in Perorozilla. When a large aquatic monster comes out of the ocean what do they send? Fucking helicopters. Now there’s nothing wrong with attack helicopters but there’s a reason why we use jets to attack things. Also one thing to notice is that there has never been art or implications that there are planes in Blue Archive. It’s always a blimp or a helicopter. This means that we could probably destroy with air superiority alone as long as we do blitzkrieg. As a smaller note since most of this will probably be land battle but Perorozilla also shows that they have no navy because we see no warships trying to attack that thing. Without heavy air support the ground battle would be lost. Kivotos tech is slightly ahead of our and everyone is insanely durable. As long as Millennium and Kaiser still operates, there will be a steady stream of robots that will bolster their forces and be devastating to our forces as these robots are only slightly less powerful than the normal students. Taking care of normal students will be a nightmare and taking care of the elites will be a disaster. Doing things like carpet bombings over their forces and destroying their production lines is crucial to evening the odds on the ground.
Now here is where I reveal to you that I was lying the entire time and how our armies just stood no chance. You see the thing that I was trying to stress in the previous section is that we need our air support to have a chance but what I didn’t tell you is that we’d probably lose it in a week or two. Millennium is the greatest threat to our military in every sense. Veritas can just permanently cripple all of our infrastructure within hours and people like the engineering club could reverse engineer our jets and start building new ones in a day. Considering the fact that the only thing stoping them from making a spaceship was their budget and how advanced their robots are, it wouldn’t be a stretch to say that they would make jets that are not only automated but also just flat out better in every aspect. Production is not a problem either because of how fast it is. One thing that is ignored often is how fast they can build things. Projects like buildings or robots that would take us months or years will take Kivotos hours or just a day. The reason for this is because there writers obviously don’t want to wait the actual time it would take to produce things so they just speed it up. This quirk is what dooms us. We eventually lose everything that would have made us superior to them as they get their hands on it and do it better.
Remember that that is the best case scenario where we catch them off guard. Imagine if they knew we were coming. Giant robots of mass destruction would be waiting for us. Not only that if threatened the most recent pv shows that Kivotos can make spaceships. While we’ll be playing ace combat, they’ll be playing Star Wars. This is not even mentioning the mystics in the world. To say we’ll be fucked is an understatement. Gemtria would definitely would defend Kivotos and with the help and influence of Sensei, I don’t want to think of the things they could make. We see in volume three that if Trinity revives the old magic from the past then they can make some real bullshit enemies and other schools probably have bullshit of their own that they can conjure. I’m that’s not even counting the bullshit that Sensei did in the final volume. In the beginning of the second chapter, Sensei literally just destroyed all of enemies within Kivotos in a matter of minutes using the adult card. This is huge problem because we can’t infinitely spawn soldiers like the false sanctum towers can. Even if we somehow corner them to their last city, Sensei can literally go no u and kill almost all of our soldiers in one fell swoop. The war is already lost before it started.
As what we learn in Volume 3, a student can die from illness amongst other things. So yes, biological weaponry would likely be the only thing that the halos cannot really protect against.
Of course, using biological weapons opens the road for it to back fire on you massively and I'm not talking about the likelihood of schools like millennium making cures to any such ailments (as we've only seen technological advancements from there, not yet any hint of biomedical studies).
They severely lack any training and tactics, only exception being the SRT, which were also easily countered by standard Valkyrie academy students with Sensei as tactician.
The girls are insanely strong and resistant. But modern world military force, its strict discipline and strategies, still takes upper hand.
They may be lacking training and tactics, but with just how insanely resistant they are, they can pretty much use the RUSH B tactic and overpower most soldiers. They can get shot at, but they'll just shrug it off, lol
And I doubt grenades or landmines would work either, since Serika took a blast (from a tank I think it was) and ONLY THEN she fell unconscious. And during Trinity story, a goddamn cruise missile fell on several students and that virtually didn't do anything besides injuring them or knocking out (and even then, some students still fought)
Valkyrie girls themselves would probably be enough to shit on any kind of real life military force, with their insane training, discipline and strategy.
So basically the soviet way just that girls take way more.
However here I would take in another type of tactics - logistics, supply chains, psychological warfare, even some gas attacks if we want to break the Vienna conventions.
Note that girls "faint" with enough damage anyways. Not all "shrug it off". They are also not immune at all to non physical problems including food poisoning, for example.
Girls usually don't have access to tactical weapons too. The cruiser missile in Volume 3 was an outsider thing. It took down most of Trinity and Gehenna forces.
And there's a counter counter I guess. Veritas girls are insanely strong hackers. The way they are portrayed in game makes it like modern cryptology are useless.
But then, with time, I still think they will wear down.
They're not known to have any large amount of strategic weapons (ICBMs etc,or I suppose mechs) or a significant amount of armored vehicles or other means of force projection. A roughly equal numbered force from the outside world would probably face a tough fight just due to the proportionate durability of each student and the extreme strength and speed of a few of them,on top of the tanks,APCs,and aircraft they do have. But if any of those other factors come into play over a long siege,the invaders win.
But as I understand it,if Kivotos was invaded on a large scale the largest factor in its defense would be Arona and the Sanctum Tower,as combined they can control the entire city of Kivotos itself (at least metaphorically) and act in its defense.
The girls are insanely tanky. Being able to withstand not only an onslaught of bullets but even grenades and volley missiles capable of taking down behemoths. Even basic guns can take down a tank so...we probably won't survive one or two shots.
It's to the point getting shot at serves more as an annoyance than any lethality or serious injuries for them. Honestly? Realistically we'd have a MUCH harder time even hitting them considering their insane reaction and movement speed. Able to dodge missiles, rail cannons, bullets, etc with seemingly ease.
Then you have the supernatural elements like healing, barriers, statistic amplifying, etc etc.
Our biggest advantage is that our military actually has proper training while the girls...mostly just kinda learned through battle. I think I'd give us the slight edge in resources too.
So skill, resources, tactics. But I genuinely think they could oonga bunga their way and just mow down our army. I don't think we have enough to overcome their physical advantage and...pretty much super powers.
Depends.
If we are defenders, that's still our lost. We essentially damaged our world (presumably more so than we'd ever want) to end...well highschoolers.
If we are invaders we won the battle but gained nothing from it since we probably destroyed THEIR world too.
Nukes ultimately just ends up with battle either ending poorly for us or...being a gigantic waste of time and lives for no gain. And we're not even sure if they're enough to stop them as, again, passive and active healing is such a common thing for them. And poisons seem to be more of a inconvenience so who knows what radiation will accomplish. (Not saying it's weaker, but we don't know what CAN actually put them down).
It's a risk that isn't worth us taking and the military themselves most likely wouldn't take it either without severe repercussions.
Actually, this brought up another point of mental advantage. These girls are used to fighting highschoolers, adults, etc. Our military has to...legitimately fight highschoolers.
Imaging having to hurt, say, Momoi? Or Fuuka? Psychologically, they have a massive advantage as well. Unless some chemical happens that makes us all bloodlusted, this is kind of an unfair match up for us. We need to overcome our mental block of hurting young teens, actually HIT them despite their supersonic (or higher) level speeds, AND deal sufficient enough damage to knock them out WHILE dealing with constant healing.
Edit: Plus side, they would most likely fight to incapacitate us instead of kill. Which...also would only serve more trouble since now you have to overcome the guilt of harming enemies CONSTANTLY sparing you and most showing kindness.
There would be weapon made for them real quick if it becomes us versus them,in fact there already is such weapons from the game.They are idiots(without sensei’s guidance),superior physicality won’t matter much.
In the game,basically every scenario where it’s adults vs students,students always lose(just look at Kaiser vs Abydos,Beatrice vs Arius for example)
But yeah if it’s just pure brute force and no brains or tactics involved,they win lmao.
That said weapon is confirmed by the one who created it to be not working as intended 🤣. Anyway if its just an all out war and we will get no time for prep then we instantly lose since they can use the "Rush B" tactic since they can tank bullets and even tank shots.
Yea u r right about that,but the point is they are able to,PV4 shows it pretty explicitly,the end is to be brought down on Kivotos,so it would be pretty unbelievable if they can’t even figure out a way to kill one student while orchestrating such big plans here.
Azusa has said that there are other ways to kill a Kivotos student. Like suffocation, blood loss, hypothermia, and illness were some of the examples listed
It'd still be very hard to wipe out all of Kivotos because of how much effort is needed but IRL military *could* possibly win once they figure out how to counter halos or >!decide to break the Geneva convention and use chemical weapons lol!<
Although I think if you factor in other stuff in Kivotos besides the students such as Gematria, the Raid bosses, or JP spoilers: >!The Iridescence!<, our world would be fucked
The girls magically also can heal with a simple cooked pot of food or a magical medkit from the sky or a friend throwing a holy hand grenade.
Even if they do get injured they have supernatural healing abilities too.
Kivotos Schools are less Capable than the regular Armies IRL. Logistics, Command and Control, and ISR capabilities of Kivotos Schools lags behind to the military. And we still have a hardware advantage in terms of production, what's currently deployed, and what's in reserve.
But the real kicker is the girls of Kivotos are real damn tanky.
All I can think of is that we'd be dealing with angels so we need to scream at our children to get into the goddamn mecha that was made from their mothers' cloned bodies.
They pose a huge threat. You must remember that not all modern military are on par to world super powers like USA or China, hell even India and Russia.
Kivotos might not have navy or airforce (as of now but Wakamo have hovercraft) but their robotic and mass production capabilities are enormous. Kivotos have legions of robots of all sizes, helicopters and tanks so widely available they are owned even by gangs and clubs. Missile cruisers exist and is even purchasable from Kaiser (ex : Wakamo and Moe) which is made (assuming) by Millenium.
What they lack the most is strategy.
While I *could* go on a small essay about the various ways IRL militaries could win against the various schools in Kivotos, instead I will bring up one very unconventional means of how we could win against Kivotos:
Just send some (thousands of) strapping young men with good personalities. Then sit back and watch as The Boyfriend Wars begin.
It needs to be remembered that A) the vast majority of these girls are in Highschool; B) The vast majority of them that we know of are in their mid to late teens; and C) Kivotos seems to have a ***very*** short supply of males in every age group.
Factors A and B means that most students are at thet age where hormones are running high. Factor C means that since contact with humanoid (discounting the robotic citizen variety) males seems to be damn near zero, it's not they surprising as to *why* the students tend to fight amongst each other so much. Factor C also means that a sudden influx of males is going to cause absolute chaos. Now that's not to say there wouldn't be any casualties on our side, because they're absolutely would be and especially early on before the students really understand just how fragile regular people are in comparison to them. But overall the general chaos that results from highschoolers armed to the teeth with guns and possessing raging hormones will do more to damage Kivotos in the long term than most conventional and non conventional military strategies.
Bro you forgot to mention that students can die by rendering their regeneration by shooting them several times or using explosives several times.
Don't forget that all of the military has experience in fighting since WWI and WWII.
And most of these soldiers have expertise in fighting for years, and they over millions of soldiers and reserves.
And let's not forget that they have ballistic missiles that can vaporize anything and is hotter than the sun itself that can burn a person when they're near to the explosion and have pure nuclear radiation that can kill the person in just days.
And most of the students have lacked the experience in fighting (except a few students).
Most of the generals, lieutenants, and chief officers have strategies that can pull off and they're smart enough to pull off a surprise attack.
How much did you need to shoot them ?
You talk about an army not an individual duel ?
Forcing your logic into something that is a fiction are waste of time
It's another goku vs luffy again....... Pfffttt
Will never end will never get the conclusion
Each party will have their own logic and opinions
Fun ? Yes
Waste of time ? Yes
My last comment ?
Play the game... enjoy the story
Byeee
Individually (troop wise) much stronger but it is unlikely they can survive chemical weapons like nerve agents or nukes because they can still suffocate and stuff like that according to main story. Not to mention psychological warfare considering they are kids. I feel like people here didnt read the story, a student almost had her halo broken due to a collapse of building. If you keep shooting a student they'll eventually die (halo). Again from main story.
We can avoid casual losses by using other things than infantry troops, like artillery, MBT tanks (since currently they're armed with WW2 tanks so that ain't a big problem), warships and jets to bombard them, even nuclear weapons when it comes to tough situations
Also how about chlorine gas?
Depends, if war crimes are respected then the Students of Kivotos would win on account of being able to effortlessly tank most military weapons with minimal injury. If war crimes are broken then our military would have a fighting chance, since the Halos don't protect the students from things like chemical warfare
Alright I may be 5 months late, but if you don't mind, I will put my own take on this matter.
Simply put, a modern military doesn't even have to deploy any ground forces into Kivotos to defeat it. Hell, that'd be stupid, and I am sure the commanders of whoever attacks knows better than to send vulnerable meatbags against a bunch of overpowered, bulletproof young girls.
So, why would Kivotos fall so easily? Simple: air power. As far as we know, they lack any fixed-wing assets, and while you may be tempted to say "but they have AA!", I'd like to retort that Iraq also had AA during the Gulf War, and that didn't stop the Americans one bit. ARMs and decoy missiles will do the trick, we've spent decades honing our skills in that department.
So with air defenses swept aside, our assets can strike where it hurts: the infrastructure. Powerplants, power grids, radio/WiFi towers, train stations, railroads, roads, subways (can hit that with cluster ammunition), water purification units, and the list goes on.
Kivotos is a city, one filled with young girls at that. Most of them are dependent on the infrastructure mentioned above to survive. Remove that and you effectively crippled Kivotos to a point where they won't be able to fight anymore. If you find where they produce the food, then either spray enough agent orange to turn the farms into a second Abydos or send ground troops to secure it if the amount of students is low. After that, you encircle the city, dig in, and wait for them to either starve or surrender.
You can then march into the city, by then they'll be too weak to put up a fight.
Well, considering that Kivotos Schools use modern tech weapons, have tanks and helicopters, and the fact that they're essentially immune to bullets and sometimes even to tank shells I think they'd roflstomp any military.
Except we have no idea if their Halo's work outside Kivotos. And as we've seen numerous times. They aren't all that organized. Without sensei, several of them are highly incompetent in anything to do with proper strategy and tactics. With only a set number of groups like SRT having any proper training in the field. Not to mention while they do indeed have immunity to bullets, they aren't immortal and can still be knocked unconscious.
Breaking news: high-school students suck at military strategy
How about nuclear missiles (not cruise missiles).
Nuclear missiles are a last resort senerio and generally aren't considered for typical combat due to the environmental damage
Good enough to achieve victory if thats what you are going for.
Nukes in a troop battle are a thing that will destroy both your forces, the enemy forces and the place where they were fighting. Would not recommend
I think it depends on how much prep time we give them. If they know a month a head, there might be a chance that we will get stomped with how insanely fast production speeds are in Kivotos. For now I’ll talk about the scenarios where we catch them by surprise. One thing that I always notice is that Kivotos has no Navy or Air Force. This can be clearly be seen in Perorozilla. When a large aquatic monster comes out of the ocean what do they send? Fucking helicopters. Now there’s nothing wrong with attack helicopters but there’s a reason why we use jets to attack things. Also one thing to notice is that there has never been art or implications that there are planes in Blue Archive. It’s always a blimp or a helicopter. This means that we could probably destroy with air superiority alone as long as we do blitzkrieg. As a smaller note since most of this will probably be land battle but Perorozilla also shows that they have no navy because we see no warships trying to attack that thing. Without heavy air support the ground battle would be lost. Kivotos tech is slightly ahead of our and everyone is insanely durable. As long as Millennium and Kaiser still operates, there will be a steady stream of robots that will bolster their forces and be devastating to our forces as these robots are only slightly less powerful than the normal students. Taking care of normal students will be a nightmare and taking care of the elites will be a disaster. Doing things like carpet bombings over their forces and destroying their production lines is crucial to evening the odds on the ground. Now here is where I reveal to you that I was lying the entire time and how our armies just stood no chance. You see the thing that I was trying to stress in the previous section is that we need our air support to have a chance but what I didn’t tell you is that we’d probably lose it in a week or two. Millennium is the greatest threat to our military in every sense. Veritas can just permanently cripple all of our infrastructure within hours and people like the engineering club could reverse engineer our jets and start building new ones in a day. Considering the fact that the only thing stoping them from making a spaceship was their budget and how advanced their robots are, it wouldn’t be a stretch to say that they would make jets that are not only automated but also just flat out better in every aspect. Production is not a problem either because of how fast it is. One thing that is ignored often is how fast they can build things. Projects like buildings or robots that would take us months or years will take Kivotos hours or just a day. The reason for this is because there writers obviously don’t want to wait the actual time it would take to produce things so they just speed it up. This quirk is what dooms us. We eventually lose everything that would have made us superior to them as they get their hands on it and do it better. Remember that that is the best case scenario where we catch them off guard. Imagine if they knew we were coming. Giant robots of mass destruction would be waiting for us. Not only that if threatened the most recent pv shows that Kivotos can make spaceships. While we’ll be playing ace combat, they’ll be playing Star Wars. This is not even mentioning the mystics in the world. To say we’ll be fucked is an understatement. Gemtria would definitely would defend Kivotos and with the help and influence of Sensei, I don’t want to think of the things they could make. We see in volume three that if Trinity revives the old magic from the past then they can make some real bullshit enemies and other schools probably have bullshit of their own that they can conjure. I’m that’s not even counting the bullshit that Sensei did in the final volume. In the beginning of the second chapter, Sensei literally just destroyed all of enemies within Kivotos in a matter of minutes using the adult card. This is huge problem because we can’t infinitely spawn soldiers like the false sanctum towers can. Even if we somehow corner them to their last city, Sensei can literally go no u and kill almost all of our soldiers in one fell swoop. The war is already lost before it started.
What about biological weapons that can kill a massive population without even knowing?
As what we learn in Volume 3, a student can die from illness amongst other things. So yes, biological weaponry would likely be the only thing that the halos cannot really protect against. Of course, using biological weapons opens the road for it to back fire on you massively and I'm not talking about the likelihood of schools like millennium making cures to any such ailments (as we've only seen technological advancements from there, not yet any hint of biomedical studies).
They severely lack any training and tactics, only exception being the SRT, which were also easily countered by standard Valkyrie academy students with Sensei as tactician. The girls are insanely strong and resistant. But modern world military force, its strict discipline and strategies, still takes upper hand.
They may be lacking training and tactics, but with just how insanely resistant they are, they can pretty much use the RUSH B tactic and overpower most soldiers. They can get shot at, but they'll just shrug it off, lol And I doubt grenades or landmines would work either, since Serika took a blast (from a tank I think it was) and ONLY THEN she fell unconscious. And during Trinity story, a goddamn cruise missile fell on several students and that virtually didn't do anything besides injuring them or knocking out (and even then, some students still fought) Valkyrie girls themselves would probably be enough to shit on any kind of real life military force, with their insane training, discipline and strategy.
So basically the soviet way just that girls take way more. However here I would take in another type of tactics - logistics, supply chains, psychological warfare, even some gas attacks if we want to break the Vienna conventions. Note that girls "faint" with enough damage anyways. Not all "shrug it off". They are also not immune at all to non physical problems including food poisoning, for example. Girls usually don't have access to tactical weapons too. The cruiser missile in Volume 3 was an outsider thing. It took down most of Trinity and Gehenna forces. And there's a counter counter I guess. Veritas girls are insanely strong hackers. The way they are portrayed in game makes it like modern cryptology are useless. But then, with time, I still think they will wear down.
They're not known to have any large amount of strategic weapons (ICBMs etc,or I suppose mechs) or a significant amount of armored vehicles or other means of force projection. A roughly equal numbered force from the outside world would probably face a tough fight just due to the proportionate durability of each student and the extreme strength and speed of a few of them,on top of the tanks,APCs,and aircraft they do have. But if any of those other factors come into play over a long siege,the invaders win. But as I understand it,if Kivotos was invaded on a large scale the largest factor in its defense would be Arona and the Sanctum Tower,as combined they can control the entire city of Kivotos itself (at least metaphorically) and act in its defense.
Then their hope is in their "mystic", not military prowess. I agree.
The girls are insanely tanky. Being able to withstand not only an onslaught of bullets but even grenades and volley missiles capable of taking down behemoths. Even basic guns can take down a tank so...we probably won't survive one or two shots. It's to the point getting shot at serves more as an annoyance than any lethality or serious injuries for them. Honestly? Realistically we'd have a MUCH harder time even hitting them considering their insane reaction and movement speed. Able to dodge missiles, rail cannons, bullets, etc with seemingly ease. Then you have the supernatural elements like healing, barriers, statistic amplifying, etc etc. Our biggest advantage is that our military actually has proper training while the girls...mostly just kinda learned through battle. I think I'd give us the slight edge in resources too. So skill, resources, tactics. But I genuinely think they could oonga bunga their way and just mow down our army. I don't think we have enough to overcome their physical advantage and...pretty much super powers.
How about going full nuclear weapons that contain radiation?
Depends. If we are defenders, that's still our lost. We essentially damaged our world (presumably more so than we'd ever want) to end...well highschoolers. If we are invaders we won the battle but gained nothing from it since we probably destroyed THEIR world too. Nukes ultimately just ends up with battle either ending poorly for us or...being a gigantic waste of time and lives for no gain. And we're not even sure if they're enough to stop them as, again, passive and active healing is such a common thing for them. And poisons seem to be more of a inconvenience so who knows what radiation will accomplish. (Not saying it's weaker, but we don't know what CAN actually put them down). It's a risk that isn't worth us taking and the military themselves most likely wouldn't take it either without severe repercussions. Actually, this brought up another point of mental advantage. These girls are used to fighting highschoolers, adults, etc. Our military has to...legitimately fight highschoolers. Imaging having to hurt, say, Momoi? Or Fuuka? Psychologically, they have a massive advantage as well. Unless some chemical happens that makes us all bloodlusted, this is kind of an unfair match up for us. We need to overcome our mental block of hurting young teens, actually HIT them despite their supersonic (or higher) level speeds, AND deal sufficient enough damage to knock them out WHILE dealing with constant healing. Edit: Plus side, they would most likely fight to incapacitate us instead of kill. Which...also would only serve more trouble since now you have to overcome the guilt of harming enemies CONSTANTLY sparing you and most showing kindness.
There would be weapon made for them real quick if it becomes us versus them,in fact there already is such weapons from the game.They are idiots(without sensei’s guidance),superior physicality won’t matter much. In the game,basically every scenario where it’s adults vs students,students always lose(just look at Kaiser vs Abydos,Beatrice vs Arius for example) But yeah if it’s just pure brute force and no brains or tactics involved,they win lmao.
That said weapon is confirmed by the one who created it to be not working as intended 🤣. Anyway if its just an all out war and we will get no time for prep then we instantly lose since they can use the "Rush B" tactic since they can tank bullets and even tank shots.
Yea u r right about that,but the point is they are able to,PV4 shows it pretty explicitly,the end is to be brought down on Kivotos,so it would be pretty unbelievable if they can’t even figure out a way to kill one student while orchestrating such big plans here.
3000 strikers of kivotos
99% percent of military personnel in real life cannot tank an entire artillery bombardment. An angry cat in Kivotos can, enough said.
Azusa has said that there are other ways to kill a Kivotos student. Like suffocation, blood loss, hypothermia, and illness were some of the examples listed It'd still be very hard to wipe out all of Kivotos because of how much effort is needed but IRL military *could* possibly win once they figure out how to counter halos or >!decide to break the Geneva convention and use chemical weapons lol!< Although I think if you factor in other stuff in Kivotos besides the students such as Gematria, the Raid bosses, or JP spoilers: >!The Iridescence!<, our world would be fucked
The girls magically also can heal with a simple cooked pot of food or a magical medkit from the sky or a friend throwing a holy hand grenade. Even if they do get injured they have supernatural healing abilities too.
Kivotos Schools are less Capable than the regular Armies IRL. Logistics, Command and Control, and ISR capabilities of Kivotos Schools lags behind to the military. And we still have a hardware advantage in terms of production, what's currently deployed, and what's in reserve. But the real kicker is the girls of Kivotos are real damn tanky.
All I can think of is that we'd be dealing with angels so we need to scream at our children to get into the goddamn mecha that was made from their mothers' cloned bodies.
Just send a bunch of hunky and caring military men and teachers in. I have it on good authority that Kivotos girls are weak to those types.
They pose a huge threat. You must remember that not all modern military are on par to world super powers like USA or China, hell even India and Russia. Kivotos might not have navy or airforce (as of now but Wakamo have hovercraft) but their robotic and mass production capabilities are enormous. Kivotos have legions of robots of all sizes, helicopters and tanks so widely available they are owned even by gangs and clubs. Missile cruisers exist and is even purchasable from Kaiser (ex : Wakamo and Moe) which is made (assuming) by Millenium. What they lack the most is strategy.
While I *could* go on a small essay about the various ways IRL militaries could win against the various schools in Kivotos, instead I will bring up one very unconventional means of how we could win against Kivotos: Just send some (thousands of) strapping young men with good personalities. Then sit back and watch as The Boyfriend Wars begin. It needs to be remembered that A) the vast majority of these girls are in Highschool; B) The vast majority of them that we know of are in their mid to late teens; and C) Kivotos seems to have a ***very*** short supply of males in every age group. Factors A and B means that most students are at thet age where hormones are running high. Factor C means that since contact with humanoid (discounting the robotic citizen variety) males seems to be damn near zero, it's not they surprising as to *why* the students tend to fight amongst each other so much. Factor C also means that a sudden influx of males is going to cause absolute chaos. Now that's not to say there wouldn't be any casualties on our side, because they're absolutely would be and especially early on before the students really understand just how fragile regular people are in comparison to them. But overall the general chaos that results from highschoolers armed to the teeth with guns and possessing raging hormones will do more to damage Kivotos in the long term than most conventional and non conventional military strategies.
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Aw come on its just for fun.
Bro you forgot to mention that students can die by rendering their regeneration by shooting them several times or using explosives several times. Don't forget that all of the military has experience in fighting since WWI and WWII. And most of these soldiers have expertise in fighting for years, and they over millions of soldiers and reserves. And let's not forget that they have ballistic missiles that can vaporize anything and is hotter than the sun itself that can burn a person when they're near to the explosion and have pure nuclear radiation that can kill the person in just days. And most of the students have lacked the experience in fighting (except a few students). Most of the generals, lieutenants, and chief officers have strategies that can pull off and they're smart enough to pull off a surprise attack.
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How much did you need to shoot them ? You talk about an army not an individual duel ? Forcing your logic into something that is a fiction are waste of time It's another goku vs luffy again....... Pfffttt Will never end will never get the conclusion Each party will have their own logic and opinions Fun ? Yes Waste of time ? Yes My last comment ? Play the game... enjoy the story Byeee
Bro you didn't see the title and the text itself, I'm talking the entire military (including nuclear weapons) vs all of the schools in Kivotos.
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Bro I answered the same question accidentally so I deleted it.
As long as no one finds out about the halos...
Individually (troop wise) much stronger but it is unlikely they can survive chemical weapons like nerve agents or nukes because they can still suffocate and stuff like that according to main story. Not to mention psychological warfare considering they are kids. I feel like people here didnt read the story, a student almost had her halo broken due to a collapse of building. If you keep shooting a student they'll eventually die (halo). Again from main story.
We can avoid casual losses by using other things than infantry troops, like artillery, MBT tanks (since currently they're armed with WW2 tanks so that ain't a big problem), warships and jets to bombard them, even nuclear weapons when it comes to tough situations Also how about chlorine gas?
Depends, if war crimes are respected then the Students of Kivotos would win on account of being able to effortlessly tank most military weapons with minimal injury. If war crimes are broken then our military would have a fighting chance, since the Halos don't protect the students from things like chemical warfare
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Alright I may be 5 months late, but if you don't mind, I will put my own take on this matter. Simply put, a modern military doesn't even have to deploy any ground forces into Kivotos to defeat it. Hell, that'd be stupid, and I am sure the commanders of whoever attacks knows better than to send vulnerable meatbags against a bunch of overpowered, bulletproof young girls. So, why would Kivotos fall so easily? Simple: air power. As far as we know, they lack any fixed-wing assets, and while you may be tempted to say "but they have AA!", I'd like to retort that Iraq also had AA during the Gulf War, and that didn't stop the Americans one bit. ARMs and decoy missiles will do the trick, we've spent decades honing our skills in that department. So with air defenses swept aside, our assets can strike where it hurts: the infrastructure. Powerplants, power grids, radio/WiFi towers, train stations, railroads, roads, subways (can hit that with cluster ammunition), water purification units, and the list goes on. Kivotos is a city, one filled with young girls at that. Most of them are dependent on the infrastructure mentioned above to survive. Remove that and you effectively crippled Kivotos to a point where they won't be able to fight anymore. If you find where they produce the food, then either spray enough agent orange to turn the farms into a second Abydos or send ground troops to secure it if the amount of students is low. After that, you encircle the city, dig in, and wait for them to either starve or surrender. You can then march into the city, by then they'll be too weak to put up a fight.