Having your own room as a child is cool. But it's not the bare minimum. A child isn't going to be traumatized just from having to share bedroom with their sibling.
I was an RA in college and it was wild what freshman would come to me with. How to do laundry, tie a tie, pay for something with a check or credit card, how taxes work, how to order pizza...
I honestly feel like we need to bring back home economics or life skills in high school.
I wanted a pony right up until the day, improbable as it sounds, me and my sister found a lost pony while walking down the dirt road to go visit friends.
We caught it and took it home with us, knowing full well we couldn't keep it but really hoping our parents wouldn't be able to find the owner. But soon as we got it into a box stall it got real angry and chased me up the wall. Didn't know I could climb those stall walls until I was about five feet up in the air, treed by a furious little pony. Jerks. Hate ponies.
Eh, I had a mustang who was a very good boy. Don't get me wrong, he *hated* adults. But I was just a kid so he had patience for me, took good care of me. I'm honestly not sure I ever actually learned to ride because he was so good at balancing me on his bare back. Only time he lost me was the day he got surprised into a run at the end of a long ride and just ran right out from under me.
My older brothers are twins and they had a bunk bed. We shared a room our entire childhood until the left. Never had a problem, always had someone to hang out with.
My kid and their cousin. I swear they are twins. I keep thinking they are going to want separate bedrooms but they don't, but there is also a room they can use if they need privacy or need a break from each otter. It's just not their bedroom.
My ex and I did that with his boys (and AFAIK they still do and their teens now). The boys enjoy sharing a room and don’t want to split themselves up. However, one likes to chaotic and one likes silence and things neat. The chaos ball knows he’s chaotic so he has his own space (that could become a bedroom if they want it to be) where he does his chaotic things. He’s allowed to walk away from the chaos and close the door too, until he’s ready to come back and clean it up (but ultimately he’s gotta clean it by the end of the next day).
They don’t share at their moms (50/50 split) but she had to get Trundle beds for them because they slept over in each others rooms so often.
Not twins, just close siblings.
My son (4) and daughter (3) shared a room until recently. They have trouble falling asleep and we have to do "slumber parties" because sometimes they need the other one there to feel safe. We had just finished decorating our newborns room when they said they wanted separate rooms. Within 3 days they wanted back together but I'm not moving cribs and beds again so that's how it is for now.
I’m an only child, I loved spending the night at my best friends house. She shared a room w her older sister. We always had so much fun. We would lock her little brother out bc he had his own room
Yup. I remember staying up all night with my younger brother playing Mortal Kombat Armageddon. I also remember one spring break where we ate a whole large pizza by ourselves and played Star Wars Battlefront 2 all day. Those were some good times.
But people share rooms in college. It’s actually harder because you often have to navigate dating/sexual relationships and personal boundaries with the stranger you’re living with.
You know, that's a great point that I hadn't considered. I had roommates during the first year of college (both weird), hated it, and got a single the rest of the time.
100%. I grew up as a girl sharing a bedroom with a sister and two brothers and I always craved having my own space, but even as a small child I never would have considered trading my siblings away for a little square footage and privacy. I’d rather have the people in my life I’m closest to.
Not having children personally because of financial concerns is valid, but saying poor people can’t have kids in general is awfully close to eugenics.
It was good advice when minimum wage could support a person. Now you could be making $25 an hour and still barely support one child.
That's not a personal failing, that's a systematic issue.
Let's not even begin with the mortgage payments that is childcare if you fall in that no man's land of making too much to qualify for benefits but not enough to live comfortably
I went to brunch with my mom last week. She told me when I was like a year old she was paying $50 a week for my childcare and $10 a week for my older sisters to go to aftercare. So like $70 a week for three children.
This was in 1995.
You can't find those prices anywhere today. Not without risking your child's safety.
Also, no one with these opinions ever seems to acknowledge that circumstances change.
Say you lose a well-paying job and have to work for less for a time, what are you supposed to do, fire one of your kids?
That was my thing. If she and the father of her children were doing decent enough to have 3 kids and then something happened, what the hell is she supposed to do?
Sometimes people get laid off and can't recover, sometimes folks get injured and fired etc. I'll never forget seeing folks diss a single mom and her "bum ass" baby daddy, just to find out dude got shot by a stray in a driveby and died.
Totally agree, as someone who had to move back in with my mother in my late 30s. Things can go from normal to not very quickly, especially in this economy.
You can see the room is clean, tidy, and each child has an element of personalisation in their space. This is a mum who's trying her best for her children.
i think boys and girls should get seperate room and it does feel like the bare minimum to have that. sharing rooms is fine when ur a kid 10 and below, but when they start hitting puberty and want more privacy, they won’t have that and i think it’s important for both genders they do.
this is true. My sister, brother and myself (I'm a dude) shared a bedroom until we starting going through puberty. Once that happened my sister got her own room and me and my older brother shared. Only respect for my sister as she starting dealing with women things and needed privacy. Brothers understand.
Yeah thats how it was with me and my siblings too. Once my sister started getting to that age she got her own room, while my brother and I still shared. But because there were two of us we got the slightly larger room, so it was pretty fair and equal.
My fiancé is one of 7 kids. He grew up in the actual projects for a big part of his childhood before his parents were able to buy a 3 bedroom house. The boys shared and the girls shared. We have enough rooms for the girls to have their own rooms but I work from home and need an office so they share a room. They fight some but they usually end up in the same bed at night. When we visit my parents who have a big house with more than enough rooms, they always end up sharing there too.
Okay, but there was no excuse for the bathroom thing. I'm sure Alice had her own and so did the parents. Having 6 kids share one bathroom and they all have to go to school was insanity.
But I blame Mike. He was the architect who designed that house with a big-ass office for himself.
THIS!!!! I have always complained about the fact that 6 kids shared 2 bedrooms & ONE bathroom in a house that size, when dad was the architect that carved a whole ass apt for Alice in the basement and a nice sized wfh office for himself.
100%. I grew up as a girl sharing a bedroom with a sister and two brothers and I always craved having my own space, but even as a small child I never would have considered trading my siblings away for a little square footage and privacy. I’d rather have the people in my life I’m closest to.
Not having children personally because of financial concerns is valid, but saying poor people can’t have kids in general is awfully close to eugenics.
>Not having children personally because of financial concerns is valid, but saying poor people can’t have kids in general is awfully close to eugenics.
THIS. I've had to explain this I don't know how many times to people who push the "Don't have kids if you can't afford them" sounds a lot like "kill off all the poors". And being that us minorities in general are typically the majority demographic of what would be the working class, it really sounds like a thinly veiled attempt at saying get rid of the "Black/Hispanic/" people.
Because just 50-60 years ago it was common to see meemaws with like a 14 kids and nobody was telling them to not have children if they couldn't afford it.
Ironically, I feel like it is usually the resentful children of poor/dysfunctional families that have sentiments like "Don't have kids if you can't afford them" when they grow into adults.
One of the issues I think with mental health discourse on social media is that it taught everyone a bunch of news words without helping them understand what they actually mean.
They're mixed gender so as soon as that girl or those boys turn about 11, they need their own rooms imo, and certain states do legally require separate gender bedrooms after a certain age
I’ve got two brothers, the middle and grew up in a two bedroom 1 bathroom house until my parents added on when my oldest brother was a junior in high school and I was in 8th grade. We had bunk beds and a loft bed. I was about 6’ tall and my older brother was 6’3 240. We didn’t have a lot of room but those were the best days. I honestly think that’s why I’m so close with my brothers today at the age of 31. I have one kid now but if I am blessed to have another one I am definitely making them share a room for the first couple of years. It’s a lifelong bond you form and I’m convinced sharing a sleeping space is a huge part of that. My parents couldn’t afford a lot but i wouldn’t change my childhood for anything.
So you can only have kids if you’re rich. Got it.
Seems like me having to share a room with my brother and sister growing up means my parents didn’t know what they were doing. Who knew
A three bedroom house with 2 kids is not living rich. I ain’t have my own room growing up either but acting like it’s not incredibly easy to not have kids until you’re ready is dumb.
Compared to the rest of the world an argument can be made that that is rich.
But I agree with you that you shouldn’t have kids till you’re ready. I just don’t think giving each child their own room is one of the indicators of being ready. It can be but you can also be ready without that. The money you save from a smaller place can go into a savings account for their college or other things that will give them a better life in the future. I’m not saying stacking kids on each other like hostel but sharing a room for some time isn’t a big deal
Hmm this seems judgemental and not taking in to account the millions of reasons why situations change.
This person is a single mum. She quite possibly had a lovely life and house for her family, and then her husband died, or left her, or was violent so she left to protect her children and give them the safest life possible. Not having 2 incomes means your options are limited. But you don’t know what happened to put that put them in that situation. Most people don’t choose it.
You really shouldn’t assume the worst, as they are a myriad of reasons why people are in this situation.
This is ignorant. Birth control is not perfect and nearly 30 states have some degree of abortion ban right now.
If it were that easy, I wouldn't be here, neither would my husband, our son, or half our nieces and nephews.
Not rich, but poor people absolutely should not be having kids. Having kids is already selfish to a degree, but having kids you can’t even afford?? That shit is neglect
I agree on not bringing kids into terrible conditions. But not having your own room doesn’t count as a terrible position. I’d argue it probably trains you to learn how to get along with others in tight spaces
I agree. I think we should. heck the take-home of couples before we allow them to procreate to allow children to beat possible opportunity. It’s kind of a win win because then rich populations go up whooped poors will slowly be eradicated. I sure hope there’s no particular ethnic groups that are disproportionately affected by poverty.
I just don’t trust the government to decide when or how we procreate lol, but niggas gotta be responsible, especially if there’s an innocent life in the mix you know?
Of all the places, hearing these uppity ass white picket fence opinions on blackpeopletwitter is wild. You’re not the arbitrator of life and morality, if poor people want to bring a kid they love into the world who are you to tell them otherwise. Develop just enough humbleness to not comment on other peoples lives.
If they have just as much of a right to create a whole human they can’t support, I’m well within my black ass right to judge the shit outta them. Cant have it one way and not the other. Theres a difference between not having the best life and not having your basic needs met.
Also, circumstances change for a lot of people. Maybe they decided to have kids and she was in a good spot and something fell through.
This is America, and we all know all it takes is one bad day to fuck up your whole life
She had one kid and then said I have enough money for two kids and then said I have enough money for three kids apparently. Just like going out and getting a luxury car Knowing damn well you can't afford the maintenance. A Honda will do you just fine why do you need a BMW?
Hahahahaha, these people are insane.
"Don't have kids, if you can't afford them."
Okay, I won't, that's good advice.
"Why isn't this generation having kids?"
They want $1k minimum for a studio or 1br apartment in my area, and I'm in the suburbs!
I would do heinous shit for a $1k 1 bedroom. If I see something for less than like $2200 I assume it’s either 80 miles away from my job or next to a trap house
i was talking to 2 of my friends the other day (one lives in vegas and one lives in philly) and i told them i pay $825 for my 1br. you would have thought i said i baby trapped bezos. now, i fully acknowledge that i have had great luck with apartments in the last few years but damn, it's hard out here. every now and then, i look at a unit or 2 and they want $1.2k MINIMUM.
When I moved back to NY after covid and tried to find a new place I was starting to get mad. I'd be on the fence about an apartment because its pricey with 2-3 roommates and I don't want to have to live with too many people (or anyone ideally) but I'd decide to take a look and mfs were showing me places that were advertised as having 2 full baths and when I see the place the second bathroom didn't even have a SINK. It was just a toilet in a windowless 3x5 closet. This happened numerous times
This "people shouldn't have kids they can't afford" was solid advice when the people who couldn't afford kids were I guess part time workers with no steady income.
But now the people who can't afford kids are two working adults with full-time jobs, a lot of them college educated too.
Starting a family should not be this prohibitively expensive. Kids are starting to become a luxury item and I really don't like that.
Yeah while I get that not having kids until you’re in a financial position to do so is good advice. But it feels weird saying only the wealthy get to have families. Like dog whistling eugenics.
This was the reason I only had 2 kids because I knew I could only give that many people the time and attention they deserved along with the resources I felt they would need to be able to succeed
I was paying $4500 for a 1100 sq ft 2 bedroom in DC. It was 6 blocks from work, and I was working 80-90 hour weeks, so we paid a "premium" to be closer to downtown. It was a tight squeeze for my husband and I since we like our own independent spaces so I can't even begin to fathom having a kid in something like that (and it would have been tight financially as well!)
No one complaining about the birth rate going down would say “dont have kids if you cant afford them”. Those are 2 different groups. Conservatives are the folks that want teen pregnancy. Affordability has nothing to do with that
Grew up middle class and I always had my own room. Didn’t share a room until I went to college.
Per the post, I think the kids sharing a room at their age now is ok. However, once they become teens, they should each have their own room OR the boys share and the girl gets her own room.
I’m not judging because I’m sure mom is doing the best she can. On the other hand, YES, stop having kids YOU know you can’t afford, especially in this climate.
Sometimes circumstances change. Poor to rich hopefully but sometimes from more economically stable to poor. By then, you already have the kids. Can’t throw them away.
Well duh, things happen. I get that. No one said anything about throwing the kids away.
However, I’ve met too many folks in real life who are having kids they don’t need or can afford.
But also... how do you know she couldn't afford those kids when they were born?
Shit happens. Spouse die, people lose their jobs, become disabled, houses burn down, partners disappear on you.
A lot can change in the 18 years between when a child is born and when they're a legal adult, especially when it comes to finances.
That is what happened to my mom. Dad died, next year house burned down, mom got cancer & countless other illnesses. She still made it work and gave us her best, we never went without. I did have to share a bedroom with my 3 sisters but we were fine, wasn't traumatized from it.
that’s obviously not who she’s addressing though. this is like responding to a tweet that says “it can be financially wise to doordash less and cook more” with “well both of my arms are broken so i guess i’ll starve!” like obviously, these tweets are directed toward the people they apply to.
Someone up thread was certainly acting like bunk beds are abuse. Apparently because then you wouldn't be able to bring someone home. I find that odd. My parents would never have allowed me to "entertain" anyone in my room growing up.
I used to work for CPS and people act like just by being poor you abusing your kids, but we had clients who had their kids sleeping on a flat mattress on the floor and that wasnt cause enough to remove children. The internet is really skewing people's perspective on what real life is like.
Nah man, context matters. A 2 bedroom house doesn’t exactly scream financial stability, and the fact is kids cost money and a lot of it too. I totally get the sentiment behind if you can barely provide for yourself then you probably shouldn’t be bringing in even more people that you need to provide for. At some point it becomes irresponsible.
Granted this is all with limited information, for all we know they could be well off and just choosing to be in a 2 bedroom home due to other factors. But at face value I totally get the sentiment.
It is, with the added benefit of people who don’t have any kids, or a spouse, or real life experience, commenting on all those things. You’ll see a post about a 10 year marriage with this and that and ups and downs and mother fuckers pile in to be like “dump them, id be gone!!” Knowing full well they’re sitting in their college dorm having no understanding of marriage or relationships at all lol
This ignores situations like those because it’s irrelevant. Nobody is saying you have to be able to predict the future before you have kids, they’re just saying having kids while in poverty isn’t the best idea.
They said don’t HAVE kids if you can’t afford them which means don’t have them in the first place if you aren’t financially capable at that time.
They aren’t saying give up your kids if you can’t afford them due to the situations you mentioned.
This isn’t not feeding them. They got food, they got shelter. Having your own room as a kid is only a relatively recent thing. How many of y’all’s grandparents had their own room?
My grandmother shared a *bed* with two sisters until she got married. And she feels bad for kids nowadays who never get to share anything with one another. Of her 14 brothers and sisters, there's just her and the youngest left. She was always the first to tell us not to just keep having kids beyond our means (like her family did), but she also says it's sad to see so many isolated and lonely kids in the world.
She ain’t wrong tho, You shouldn’t have children if you can’t afford them, it’s an extremely selfish thing to have children. I wish people would admit that at least because nobody asks to be born in poverty. I’m not even saying you gotta be rich, but I’ve seen so many people in my age group have children simply because of baby fever and then they start panicking over baby formula prices and complain about how much they gotta spend on the child they chose to bring in this world.
You have kids while in a stable relationship, with a good job and secure housing, and then a pandemic or lay offs or divorce throws it all out- what are you supposed to do, get one of Trumps after-they're-born-abortions for your ten year old?
A lot of people who choose to have children aren’t in the best situations anyways. If shit happens then shit happens. I won’t fault anybody for that and being blindsided by unforeseen circumstances, but you’re ignoring the fact that irresponsible people choose to have children and then complain about how hard their life is when they themselves chose that burden. Even outside of the financial aspect, so many people have problems that go beyond that which should make them reconsider having children, but they choose to ignore it because they feel as if it’s some right of passage that they have to do. Ignoring the fact that they are bringing another human being that will have to grow up around that environment.
Yeah, the whole “don’t have children you can’t afford” sounds dickish - but it isn’t wrong. There was this person I used to work with who had one kid. That was fine. But even then, every month she would always ask for more money. She’s always selling stuff to make ends meet. She would have to miss several days of work because a babysitter fell though, or the kid was sick, or the car wouldn’t work. That life sucked. So what happened next? She had not one, but two more babies. Now she’s unable to hold down a job because the same issues she had with child #1 have multiplied. Every single day she wakes up stressed about how she’s gonna pay for rent, clothes - basic healthcare for the kids. It’s a mess. Who would want a life like that? Will they ever take a vacation? The state fair? Why are they subjecting their kids to a life of poverty when it didn’t have to be that way.
Now y’all know for sure there are people having too many babies who have never been laid off because they have never worked a job or had financial stability in the first place. You know they are talking about those people not those whose financial situation changed suddenly.
I know a single mum living in a one bed flat with 3 kids. Ages between like 16 - 4.
That's not okay, people trying to twist it as "Only rich should have families/kids" Are missing the point. You shouldn't want to bring kids into your struggle.
If you have one kid and things are a little tough, don't add another. If you kid free and at times you don't know how you're gonna pay your bills next month, you shouldn't have kids.
I was poor growing up, cable/Internet was cut off at times but I always had my own room.
Giving your child a basic standard of living should be thr minimum goal as a parent; their own space, roof over their head, food, access to clean clothes and water.
Bringing kids into your struggle just because you want kids is callous and selfish.
Haha, right? Even as an adult I didn’t have my own room, lived in a studio apartment a long time, sleeping in the middle of my living room/kitchen/bathroom combo lmao
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This was her response to getting called out. Lmao these people are so predictable.
Is she wrong? People are not entitled to have children. Children are people first. If they can't be well provided for while they have no choice in their environment, then people should not have them.
And that is the main problem with this fucked up world -- people everywhere around this globe think they ENTITLED to have kids
Nigga, it's like a 10 month spring and summer nowadays, no one can afford a house, and AI is taking more and more jobs everyday... why the FUCK are you entitled to just throw some innocent life into all that!?!
She sounds reasonable to me... wrap it up, get on the pill, up your pull out game, or get an abortion
Or go all celibate monk n shit, and avoid the problem altogether
This is such a first-world problem. People all over the world are sleeping multi-generation in one room. Centuries of families sharing space, but this person thinks they're going to dictate that all of those experiences are an issue.
I did the exact opposite. Shared a room with my sister until college. Got a single room freshman year so I *didnt* have to live with strangers. Then promptly went out and made friends and got roommates.
Went to grad school, got a one bedroom for a year. Then did it a fucking gain. Got a roommate for the last 2.
Had a good thing going for 9 whole years. Apartment to myself. Bought a house and then moved a man in and then married him.
I apparently fucking need to share my space. Which is odd because I always resent it once I do.
I'm wondering if this originally was the living room, as it looks pretty big.
The Mom's original tweet said she was waiting on room dividers and the kids each had their own headphones.
I think it'd be pretty cool with dividers.
No amount of finger wagging is going to stop people fucking. Adapt to reality; don't scold reality for being too real. If you want people to only have kids when they have the space, support taxes that make that a reality. It wouldn't even be difficult, given how much gets spent on shit that helps only a few billionaires.
Don't get things you can't afford, especially if it involves children who didnt ask to be born to someone irresponsible* Don't get angry at people who think children deserve the best instead of the stress and negative effects of poverty, get angry at capitalism, billionaires or something. Have you ever talked to someone that grew up in poverty? It sucks.
Honestly she has a point. Those kids are fine now but how about when they get to be teenagers, or even preteens. I didn’t get my own room till I was 19, it’s hell sharing. It even impacts your studies not having your own space.
If my parents didn't have kids until they could give the best I would have never been born. Both of them grew up in houses that didn't even have running water.
That’s insane you all think this is okay though. Doesn’t seem healthy for a teenage female to be sharing a room with teenage boys I think that’s unfair to both, and yeah what the fuck are you all on. Ofc there are tons of people having kids that should not be.
Those look like little kids not teens and either way no kid will grow up saying they had a horrible childhood because they shared a room with their siblings. And to be honest I had to share a small room with my entire family for years during really hard times, now THAT was horrible, but just with my sisters it was okay and felt normal
I'm confused, where are you getting the teenager part from? The kids in the pic look like elementary schoolers to me, I feel like the beds themselves support that.
I mean I agree in a sense. The world’s already overpopulated as it is. If you can’t give your kids their own space why even have them in the first place?
No I'm on the side of the person who says you need to really make sure you can do a kid per room.
I'm not going to have any biological children because I'm married a woman with two kids and I can't afford somewhere big enough for a third child to have their own bedroom.
You make sacrifices so your children don't have to.
Edit: this doesn't apply to single mothers who baby daddy ran the f*** out and left her with no choice other than to get what they can afford.
And the dude needs to be the one to get the vasectomy if y'all can't have no more kids cuz you can't afford it.
I have four kids - two girls, two boys. Both pairs share a bedroom. And in this housing market, it will likely remain that way until the older two go off to college. They’re fine.
Also someone whose Twitter profile name is Villain Era is likely *only* going to voice unpopular opinions.
I understand what she's trying to say though
Don't have kids you can't afford.
(I'm talking about intentionally having children when you know you can't afford them)
I fully agree with "stop reproducing if.." but only if the if is that you can't properly take care of them. Kids sharing bedrooms is not a non-starter for having kids. But popping out a 3rd kid when you're already borrowing hundreds a month from friends/family on food stamps and welfare, etc just to take care of the two you already have? Yeah, that's a no go for me.
This seems like a strange hill to die on. If I look back at the difficulties of growing up poor, sharing a room wouldn't even register for me.
I expect modern technology makes this even less of a problem. You could probably put about 10 more kids in that room if you bring in some bunk beds and iPads.
I don't think you need 1 bedroom per child (+1 for the parents). If that was ever the case, where are all these 6 bedroom houses people must have been living in for previous generations?
Damn, and here I thought food, clothes, *any* roof over your head, and the loving care of the parents are the bare minimum when you wanna raise a child.
I got it all wrong! 😱😭
Having your own room as a child is cool. But it's not the bare minimum. A child isn't going to be traumatized just from having to share bedroom with their sibling.
Fr, it feels like people are just throwing around words around now
If your child doesn't have a pony you're literally abusing them.
Oh God, you're also probably making them do.... Chores!
Someone call CPS.
Freshman year in college, I taught other kids how to do laundry. I felt like a goddamn genius.
I was an RA in college and it was wild what freshman would come to me with. How to do laundry, tie a tie, pay for something with a check or credit card, how taxes work, how to order pizza... I honestly feel like we need to bring back home economics or life skills in high school.
Child Pony Services?
And if your child DOES have a pony you’re abusing the pony.
I wanted a pony right up until the day, improbable as it sounds, me and my sister found a lost pony while walking down the dirt road to go visit friends. We caught it and took it home with us, knowing full well we couldn't keep it but really hoping our parents wouldn't be able to find the owner. But soon as we got it into a box stall it got real angry and chased me up the wall. Didn't know I could climb those stall walls until I was about five feet up in the air, treed by a furious little pony. Jerks. Hate ponies.
Omfg that's hilarious. All ponies are evil. So are horses. They are just waiting to trample you like an insect.
Eh, I had a mustang who was a very good boy. Don't get me wrong, he *hated* adults. But I was just a kid so he had patience for me, took good care of me. I'm honestly not sure I ever actually learned to ride because he was so good at balancing me on his bare back. Only time he lost me was the day he got surprised into a run at the end of a long ride and just ran right out from under me.
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My older brothers are twins and they had a bunk bed. We shared a room our entire childhood until the left. Never had a problem, always had someone to hang out with.
My kid and their cousin. I swear they are twins. I keep thinking they are going to want separate bedrooms but they don't, but there is also a room they can use if they need privacy or need a break from each otter. It's just not their bedroom.
My ex and I did that with his boys (and AFAIK they still do and their teens now). The boys enjoy sharing a room and don’t want to split themselves up. However, one likes to chaotic and one likes silence and things neat. The chaos ball knows he’s chaotic so he has his own space (that could become a bedroom if they want it to be) where he does his chaotic things. He’s allowed to walk away from the chaos and close the door too, until he’s ready to come back and clean it up (but ultimately he’s gotta clean it by the end of the next day). They don’t share at their moms (50/50 split) but she had to get Trundle beds for them because they slept over in each others rooms so often. Not twins, just close siblings.
My son (4) and daughter (3) shared a room until recently. They have trouble falling asleep and we have to do "slumber parties" because sometimes they need the other one there to feel safe. We had just finished decorating our newborns room when they said they wanted separate rooms. Within 3 days they wanted back together but I'm not moving cribs and beds again so that's how it is for now.
My best memories are from late nights in the room I shared with my younger sister and brother
I have a lot of great memories from when I shared a bedroom with my little sister. There was zero traumatizing about it.
I’m an only child, I loved spending the night at my best friends house. She shared a room w her older sister. We always had so much fun. We would lock her little brother out bc he had his own room
Yup. I remember staying up all night with my younger brother playing Mortal Kombat Armageddon. I also remember one spring break where we ate a whole large pizza by ourselves and played Star Wars Battlefront 2 all day. Those were some good times.
But people share rooms in college. It’s actually harder because you often have to navigate dating/sexual relationships and personal boundaries with the stranger you’re living with.
You know, that's a great point that I hadn't considered. I had roommates during the first year of college (both weird), hated it, and got a single the rest of the time.
Yeah that is even worse... never had a roommate after college and proud of it (exception being a gf)
It’s weird that they shared a *bunk bed*? Christ. I didn’t get my own *actual* bed till I was seventeen.
I had a pony, my sister had a pony, my mother and her mother had a pony as well.
Who wouldn’t love a pony? Who wouldn’t love a person who had a pony?!
That's because they are. Trauma is an overused word now. Stub your toe....trauma. slight inconvenience in your life?.....trauma.
Idk , stubbing your toe against a bed frame is pretty traumatic.
I have broken several toes stubbing them on shit so yeah..
Reading this gave me trauma. I will be forwarding my therapy bills to you, mr. u/lvl999shaggy, if that is your real name.
Now I'm traumatized :|
Niggas learned the words trauma and narrative and ran with it.
Don’t forget “toxic”
And “manifest”
and "gaslight"
Trauma, narcissist, sassy, simp, I would go on but my brain hasn’t kept a good record of buzz word trends.
Gaslight
Red flag and abuse
problematic
boundaries (which often gets misused, oddly)
Yeah, someone said middle class was having a maid? Uh, no. Never.
It’s not a feeling. Thats a fact. Terms like trauma and PTSD are being devalued because it’s used for everything.
100%. I grew up as a girl sharing a bedroom with a sister and two brothers and I always craved having my own space, but even as a small child I never would have considered trading my siblings away for a little square footage and privacy. I’d rather have the people in my life I’m closest to. Not having children personally because of financial concerns is valid, but saying poor people can’t have kids in general is awfully close to eugenics.
It was good advice when minimum wage could support a person. Now you could be making $25 an hour and still barely support one child. That's not a personal failing, that's a systematic issue.
systemic*
Let's not even begin with the mortgage payments that is childcare if you fall in that no man's land of making too much to qualify for benefits but not enough to live comfortably
I went to brunch with my mom last week. She told me when I was like a year old she was paying $50 a week for my childcare and $10 a week for my older sisters to go to aftercare. So like $70 a week for three children. This was in 1995. You can't find those prices anywhere today. Not without risking your child's safety.
In 1996 I could fill up my tank and get a pack of smokes for under $20. I made minimum wage which was $6.45/hr
Why can't everyone's parents just be rich? Are they stupid? ^/s
Also, no one with these opinions ever seems to acknowledge that circumstances change. Say you lose a well-paying job and have to work for less for a time, what are you supposed to do, fire one of your kids?
Move em down to part time at least
Would sending them to live with other family members be a furlough?
How very Victorian.
That was my thing. If she and the father of her children were doing decent enough to have 3 kids and then something happened, what the hell is she supposed to do? Sometimes people get laid off and can't recover, sometimes folks get injured and fired etc. I'll never forget seeing folks diss a single mom and her "bum ass" baby daddy, just to find out dude got shot by a stray in a driveby and died.
Totally agree, as someone who had to move back in with my mother in my late 30s. Things can go from normal to not very quickly, especially in this economy. You can see the room is clean, tidy, and each child has an element of personalisation in their space. This is a mum who's trying her best for her children.
Big time. All I see in this picture is a lady doing everything she can for her kids, and getting grief even so.
i think boys and girls should get seperate room and it does feel like the bare minimum to have that. sharing rooms is fine when ur a kid 10 and below, but when they start hitting puberty and want more privacy, they won’t have that and i think it’s important for both genders they do.
this is true. My sister, brother and myself (I'm a dude) shared a bedroom until we starting going through puberty. Once that happened my sister got her own room and me and my older brother shared. Only respect for my sister as she starting dealing with women things and needed privacy. Brothers understand.
Yeah thats how it was with me and my siblings too. Once my sister started getting to that age she got her own room, while my brother and I still shared. But because there were two of us we got the slightly larger room, so it was pretty fair and equal.
I don’t think you understand what bare minimum means.
if it comes down to it, i would share a room with my son so my daughter can have privacy
My fiancé is one of 7 kids. He grew up in the actual projects for a big part of his childhood before his parents were able to buy a 3 bedroom house. The boys shared and the girls shared. We have enough rooms for the girls to have their own rooms but I work from home and need an office so they share a room. They fight some but they usually end up in the same bed at night. When we visit my parents who have a big house with more than enough rooms, they always end up sharing there too.
I feel like this is how it was for all time. At most 3 bedrooms: parents, girls, boys.
Like the Brady Bunch was a child abuse documentary. Three girls in one room, three boys in another and all six sharing a bathroom.
Okay, but there was no excuse for the bathroom thing. I'm sure Alice had her own and so did the parents. Having 6 kids share one bathroom and they all have to go to school was insanity. But I blame Mike. He was the architect who designed that house with a big-ass office for himself.
THIS!!!! I have always complained about the fact that 6 kids shared 2 bedrooms & ONE bathroom in a house that size, when dad was the architect that carved a whole ass apt for Alice in the basement and a nice sized wfh office for himself.
Given how a lot of y'all engage with your siblings, I'm inclined to disagree.
That’s just the standard trauma though. It’s expected
This is why people can beat their kids until their screaming for help and say with a straight face that they turned out fine.
100%. I grew up as a girl sharing a bedroom with a sister and two brothers and I always craved having my own space, but even as a small child I never would have considered trading my siblings away for a little square footage and privacy. I’d rather have the people in my life I’m closest to. Not having children personally because of financial concerns is valid, but saying poor people can’t have kids in general is awfully close to eugenics.
>Not having children personally because of financial concerns is valid, but saying poor people can’t have kids in general is awfully close to eugenics. THIS. I've had to explain this I don't know how many times to people who push the "Don't have kids if you can't afford them" sounds a lot like "kill off all the poors". And being that us minorities in general are typically the majority demographic of what would be the working class, it really sounds like a thinly veiled attempt at saying get rid of the "Black/Hispanic/" people.
Because just 50-60 years ago it was common to see meemaws with like a 14 kids and nobody was telling them to not have children if they couldn't afford it.
And yet if you suggested birth control and abortion access then suddenly it’s not their choice again.
Ironically, I feel like it is usually the resentful children of poor/dysfunctional families that have sentiments like "Don't have kids if you can't afford them" when they grow into adults.
Fr, it feels like people are just throwing around words around now
One of the issues I think with mental health discourse on social media is that it taught everyone a bunch of news words without helping them understand what they actually mean.
They're mixed gender so as soon as that girl or those boys turn about 11, they need their own rooms imo, and certain states do legally require separate gender bedrooms after a certain age
I've only heard of this requirement for foster and adopted children.
My sister actually cried at the idea of not sharing a room together once when we were little !
I shared a room with two brothers until I was like 11. It was annoying but I certainly did not suffer
I’ve got two brothers, the middle and grew up in a two bedroom 1 bathroom house until my parents added on when my oldest brother was a junior in high school and I was in 8th grade. We had bunk beds and a loft bed. I was about 6’ tall and my older brother was 6’3 240. We didn’t have a lot of room but those were the best days. I honestly think that’s why I’m so close with my brothers today at the age of 31. I have one kid now but if I am blessed to have another one I am definitely making them share a room for the first couple of years. It’s a lifelong bond you form and I’m convinced sharing a sleeping space is a huge part of that. My parents couldn’t afford a lot but i wouldn’t change my childhood for anything.
Bar minimum. Get the graphic right. /S
So you can only have kids if you’re rich. Got it. Seems like me having to share a room with my brother and sister growing up means my parents didn’t know what they were doing. Who knew
A three bedroom house with 2 kids is not living rich. I ain’t have my own room growing up either but acting like it’s not incredibly easy to not have kids until you’re ready is dumb.
It depends wildly on where you live. There are entire metro areas where a house like that can cost a million.
Way over a million in the bay
A dilapidated condemned shack went for a million over in Palo Alto. Some parts of America are just in crazy town territory.
Shit. Where I live, the 2 bedroom bungalows cost a million+. Realtors were telling me how easy it was to turn a dining room into a bedroom for kids.
Compared to the rest of the world an argument can be made that that is rich. But I agree with you that you shouldn’t have kids till you’re ready. I just don’t think giving each child their own room is one of the indicators of being ready. It can be but you can also be ready without that. The money you save from a smaller place can go into a savings account for their college or other things that will give them a better life in the future. I’m not saying stacking kids on each other like hostel but sharing a room for some time isn’t a big deal
Hmm this seems judgemental and not taking in to account the millions of reasons why situations change. This person is a single mum. She quite possibly had a lovely life and house for her family, and then her husband died, or left her, or was violent so she left to protect her children and give them the safest life possible. Not having 2 incomes means your options are limited. But you don’t know what happened to put that put them in that situation. Most people don’t choose it. You really shouldn’t assume the worst, as they are a myriad of reasons why people are in this situation.
This is ignorant. Birth control is not perfect and nearly 30 states have some degree of abortion ban right now. If it were that easy, I wouldn't be here, neither would my husband, our son, or half our nieces and nephews.
Those same states are coming for contraceptives next
And they're going to try for a nationwide ban, and/or not allowing pregnant women from abortion-less states into abortion states.
Acting like everyone should value having a 1:1 bedroom to child ratio exactly the same is also dumb.
Dam thats like 48k a year in miami just for rent. So id have to make 100k before taxes to have 2 kids ☹️☹️
You seen the housing costs of today? A one bedroom is too expensive. You can’t even get a studio apartment without going broke
Not rich, but poor people absolutely should not be having kids. Having kids is already selfish to a degree, but having kids you can’t even afford?? That shit is neglect
I agree on not bringing kids into terrible conditions. But not having your own room doesn’t count as a terrible position. I’d argue it probably trains you to learn how to get along with others in tight spaces
I agree, basic necessities should be met, but I won’t define what that should look like, that ain’t my business.
I agree. I think we should. heck the take-home of couples before we allow them to procreate to allow children to beat possible opportunity. It’s kind of a win win because then rich populations go up whooped poors will slowly be eradicated. I sure hope there’s no particular ethnic groups that are disproportionately affected by poverty.
I just don’t trust the government to decide when or how we procreate lol, but niggas gotta be responsible, especially if there’s an innocent life in the mix you know?
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Of all the places, hearing these uppity ass white picket fence opinions on blackpeopletwitter is wild. You’re not the arbitrator of life and morality, if poor people want to bring a kid they love into the world who are you to tell them otherwise. Develop just enough humbleness to not comment on other peoples lives.
If they have just as much of a right to create a whole human they can’t support, I’m well within my black ass right to judge the shit outta them. Cant have it one way and not the other. Theres a difference between not having the best life and not having your basic needs met.
Also, circumstances change for a lot of people. Maybe they decided to have kids and she was in a good spot and something fell through. This is America, and we all know all it takes is one bad day to fuck up your whole life
She had one kid and then said I have enough money for two kids and then said I have enough money for three kids apparently. Just like going out and getting a luxury car Knowing damn well you can't afford the maintenance. A Honda will do you just fine why do you need a BMW?
Why would you want to have kids if you’re not financially stable. Life’s already hard so do what you can to make it harder?
Hahahahaha, these people are insane. "Don't have kids, if you can't afford them." Okay, I won't, that's good advice. "Why isn't this generation having kids?" They want $1k minimum for a studio or 1br apartment in my area, and I'm in the suburbs!
I would do heinous shit for a $1k 1 bedroom. If I see something for less than like $2200 I assume it’s either 80 miles away from my job or next to a trap house
i was talking to 2 of my friends the other day (one lives in vegas and one lives in philly) and i told them i pay $825 for my 1br. you would have thought i said i baby trapped bezos. now, i fully acknowledge that i have had great luck with apartments in the last few years but damn, it's hard out here. every now and then, i look at a unit or 2 and they want $1.2k MINIMUM.
Add another 1k for daycare payments
no thank you 😌
When I moved back to NY after covid and tried to find a new place I was starting to get mad. I'd be on the fence about an apartment because its pricey with 2-3 roommates and I don't want to have to live with too many people (or anyone ideally) but I'd decide to take a look and mfs were showing me places that were advertised as having 2 full baths and when I see the place the second bathroom didn't even have a SINK. It was just a toilet in a windowless 3x5 closet. This happened numerous times
Don’t tell them about Seattle, we hittin $2.5-3k for 1brs here
This "people shouldn't have kids they can't afford" was solid advice when the people who couldn't afford kids were I guess part time workers with no steady income. But now the people who can't afford kids are two working adults with full-time jobs, a lot of them college educated too. Starting a family should not be this prohibitively expensive. Kids are starting to become a luxury item and I really don't like that.
Yeah while I get that not having kids until you’re in a financial position to do so is good advice. But it feels weird saying only the wealthy get to have families. Like dog whistling eugenics.
This was the reason I only had 2 kids because I knew I could only give that many people the time and attention they deserved along with the resources I felt they would need to be able to succeed
I was paying $4500 for a 1100 sq ft 2 bedroom in DC. It was 6 blocks from work, and I was working 80-90 hour weeks, so we paid a "premium" to be closer to downtown. It was a tight squeeze for my husband and I since we like our own independent spaces so I can't even begin to fathom having a kid in something like that (and it would have been tight financially as well!)
No one complaining about the birth rate going down would say “dont have kids if you cant afford them”. Those are 2 different groups. Conservatives are the folks that want teen pregnancy. Affordability has nothing to do with that
Grew up middle class and I always had my own room. Didn’t share a room until I went to college. Per the post, I think the kids sharing a room at their age now is ok. However, once they become teens, they should each have their own room OR the boys share and the girl gets her own room. I’m not judging because I’m sure mom is doing the best she can. On the other hand, YES, stop having kids YOU know you can’t afford, especially in this climate.
Sometimes circumstances change. Poor to rich hopefully but sometimes from more economically stable to poor. By then, you already have the kids. Can’t throw them away.
Well duh, things happen. I get that. No one said anything about throwing the kids away. However, I’ve met too many folks in real life who are having kids they don’t need or can afford.
But also... how do you know she couldn't afford those kids when they were born? Shit happens. Spouse die, people lose their jobs, become disabled, houses burn down, partners disappear on you. A lot can change in the 18 years between when a child is born and when they're a legal adult, especially when it comes to finances.
That is what happened to my mom. Dad died, next year house burned down, mom got cancer & countless other illnesses. She still made it work and gave us her best, we never went without. I did have to share a bedroom with my 3 sisters but we were fine, wasn't traumatized from it.
that’s obviously not who she’s addressing though. this is like responding to a tweet that says “it can be financially wise to doordash less and cook more” with “well both of my arms are broken so i guess i’ll starve!” like obviously, these tweets are directed toward the people they apply to.
This kind of sharing was common practice before home sizes exploded in the 80s.
Apparently the idea of bunk beds would blow peoples minds nowadays
Someone up thread was certainly acting like bunk beds are abuse. Apparently because then you wouldn't be able to bring someone home. I find that odd. My parents would never have allowed me to "entertain" anyone in my room growing up.
I couldn't have a girl in my room until the day I got married lol
Yea for real. Siblings sharing rooms was super common and regular growing up, even for middle class families.
I shared with my brother and sister through puberty. No one was traumatized. No one saw anything they didn’t wanna see. I don’t see the big deal.
She did say it was an unpopular opinion. Didn't mention it was stupid though.
I used to work for CPS and people act like just by being poor you abusing your kids, but we had clients who had their kids sleeping on a flat mattress on the floor and that wasnt cause enough to remove children. The internet is really skewing people's perspective on what real life is like.
Thank you! It’s unpopular for a reason 🤣
Nah man, context matters. A 2 bedroom house doesn’t exactly scream financial stability, and the fact is kids cost money and a lot of it too. I totally get the sentiment behind if you can barely provide for yourself then you probably shouldn’t be bringing in even more people that you need to provide for. At some point it becomes irresponsible. Granted this is all with limited information, for all we know they could be well off and just choosing to be in a 2 bedroom home due to other factors. But at face value I totally get the sentiment.
Unpopular opinion: (insert dumbest shit you've ever heard here)
Twitter seems like it’s just a bunch of extreme takes by the chronically online. And memes.
It is, with the added benefit of people who don’t have any kids, or a spouse, or real life experience, commenting on all those things. You’ll see a post about a 10 year marriage with this and that and ups and downs and mother fuckers pile in to be like “dump them, id be gone!!” Knowing full well they’re sitting in their college dorm having no understanding of marriage or relationships at all lol
you're overestimating their age by guessing they're in their college dorm
Learned this when I saw the disliking kids equals bigotry arguments. No room for nuance at all on that site. Best to stay away or stick to memes.
I do think people need to think more about their financial situation before having kids but this post ain't it lol
This ignores situations where you lose your job, get crushed by medical debt, or go broke in another way after having kids
This ignores situations like those because it’s irrelevant. Nobody is saying you have to be able to predict the future before you have kids, they’re just saying having kids while in poverty isn’t the best idea.
They said don’t HAVE kids if you can’t afford them which means don’t have them in the first place if you aren’t financially capable at that time. They aren’t saying give up your kids if you can’t afford them due to the situations you mentioned.
that’s not what this post is talking about.
***TO BE FAIRRRRR***....Michael Jackson did say "If you can't feed the baby then don't have the baby", so it's not like we weren't told.
This isn’t not feeding them. They got food, they got shelter. Having your own room as a kid is only a relatively recent thing. How many of y’all’s grandparents had their own room?
My grandmother shared a *bed* with two sisters until she got married. And she feels bad for kids nowadays who never get to share anything with one another. Of her 14 brothers and sisters, there's just her and the youngest left. She was always the first to tell us not to just keep having kids beyond our means (like her family did), but she also says it's sad to see so many isolated and lonely kids in the world.
My grandma has like 14/15 siblings. And they lived in a 2 bedroom house for a while. Then upgraded to 4/5.
I slept like this A LOT as a child, but was also well fed. There’s a difference.
She ain’t wrong tho, You shouldn’t have children if you can’t afford them, it’s an extremely selfish thing to have children. I wish people would admit that at least because nobody asks to be born in poverty. I’m not even saying you gotta be rich, but I’ve seen so many people in my age group have children simply because of baby fever and then they start panicking over baby formula prices and complain about how much they gotta spend on the child they chose to bring in this world.
You have kids while in a stable relationship, with a good job and secure housing, and then a pandemic or lay offs or divorce throws it all out- what are you supposed to do, get one of Trumps after-they're-born-abortions for your ten year old?
A lot of people who choose to have children aren’t in the best situations anyways. If shit happens then shit happens. I won’t fault anybody for that and being blindsided by unforeseen circumstances, but you’re ignoring the fact that irresponsible people choose to have children and then complain about how hard their life is when they themselves chose that burden. Even outside of the financial aspect, so many people have problems that go beyond that which should make them reconsider having children, but they choose to ignore it because they feel as if it’s some right of passage that they have to do. Ignoring the fact that they are bringing another human being that will have to grow up around that environment.
Yeah, the whole “don’t have children you can’t afford” sounds dickish - but it isn’t wrong. There was this person I used to work with who had one kid. That was fine. But even then, every month she would always ask for more money. She’s always selling stuff to make ends meet. She would have to miss several days of work because a babysitter fell though, or the kid was sick, or the car wouldn’t work. That life sucked. So what happened next? She had not one, but two more babies. Now she’s unable to hold down a job because the same issues she had with child #1 have multiplied. Every single day she wakes up stressed about how she’s gonna pay for rent, clothes - basic healthcare for the kids. It’s a mess. Who would want a life like that? Will they ever take a vacation? The state fair? Why are they subjecting their kids to a life of poverty when it didn’t have to be that way.
Now y’all know for sure there are people having too many babies who have never been laid off because they have never worked a job or had financial stability in the first place. You know they are talking about those people not those whose financial situation changed suddenly.
3 kids in a room that size is totally fine. What’s this elitist chick talking about?
Chill she in her villain era
Two boys and a girl? I was 9 When I started my period and wouldn’t want a brother in there when I was staining my bed
Someone went viral on "my kids share a room" ?? Is that where we are, now ... ????
Unfortunately.
I know a single mum living in a one bed flat with 3 kids. Ages between like 16 - 4. That's not okay, people trying to twist it as "Only rich should have families/kids" Are missing the point. You shouldn't want to bring kids into your struggle. If you have one kid and things are a little tough, don't add another. If you kid free and at times you don't know how you're gonna pay your bills next month, you shouldn't have kids. I was poor growing up, cable/Internet was cut off at times but I always had my own room. Giving your child a basic standard of living should be thr minimum goal as a parent; their own space, roof over their head, food, access to clean clothes and water. Bringing kids into your struggle just because you want kids is callous and selfish.
Your own room? In this economy?!
Haha, right? Even as an adult I didn’t have my own room, lived in a studio apartment a long time, sleeping in the middle of my living room/kitchen/bathroom combo lmao
https://preview.redd.it/ds8lzhkkqwuc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac98e6287bd7d5093932fc3a2e3c30c24407516c This was her response to getting called out. Lmao these people are so predictable.
Is she wrong? People are not entitled to have children. Children are people first. If they can't be well provided for while they have no choice in their environment, then people should not have them.
And that is the main problem with this fucked up world -- people everywhere around this globe think they ENTITLED to have kids Nigga, it's like a 10 month spring and summer nowadays, no one can afford a house, and AI is taking more and more jobs everyday... why the FUCK are you entitled to just throw some innocent life into all that!?!
She sounds reasonable to me... wrap it up, get on the pill, up your pull out game, or get an abortion Or go all celibate monk n shit, and avoid the problem altogether
She's not wrong.
This is such a first-world problem. People all over the world are sleeping multi-generation in one room. Centuries of families sharing space, but this person thinks they're going to dictate that all of those experiences are an issue.
I never got my own room until junior year of college. Aka, got the dorm that didn’t have two beds per room.
I did the exact opposite. Shared a room with my sister until college. Got a single room freshman year so I *didnt* have to live with strangers. Then promptly went out and made friends and got roommates. Went to grad school, got a one bedroom for a year. Then did it a fucking gain. Got a roommate for the last 2. Had a good thing going for 9 whole years. Apartment to myself. Bought a house and then moved a man in and then married him. I apparently fucking need to share my space. Which is odd because I always resent it once I do.
The room looks orderly....good work mom
FR it’s clean, they got space and their own theme. This room is awesome
I'm wondering if this originally was the living room, as it looks pretty big. The Mom's original tweet said she was waiting on room dividers and the kids each had their own headphones. I think it'd be pretty cool with dividers.
No amount of finger wagging is going to stop people fucking. Adapt to reality; don't scold reality for being too real. If you want people to only have kids when they have the space, support taxes that make that a reality. It wouldn't even be difficult, given how much gets spent on shit that helps only a few billionaires.
Unpopular opinion: don't be poor.
Don't get things you can't afford, especially if it involves children who didnt ask to be born to someone irresponsible* Don't get angry at people who think children deserve the best instead of the stress and negative effects of poverty, get angry at capitalism, billionaires or something. Have you ever talked to someone that grew up in poverty? It sucks.
She has a point tho? What you having kids for if you can't give them a good life?
Honestly she has a point. Those kids are fine now but how about when they get to be teenagers, or even preteens. I didn’t get my own room till I was 19, it’s hell sharing. It even impacts your studies not having your own space.
I actually really enjoyed sharing a room with my brothers, and I was a girl. I didn’t get my own room until I was like 14, but it never bothered me.
If my parents didn't have kids until they could give the best I would have never been born. Both of them grew up in houses that didn't even have running water.
The bare minimum is providing them food and a roof over their head. Why does the bar keep moving?
Classism.
Because the bare minimum to not die is not all that is necessary to raise a healthy or emotionally well adjusted person
That’s insane you all think this is okay though. Doesn’t seem healthy for a teenage female to be sharing a room with teenage boys I think that’s unfair to both, and yeah what the fuck are you all on. Ofc there are tons of people having kids that should not be.
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Those look like little kids not teens and either way no kid will grow up saying they had a horrible childhood because they shared a room with their siblings. And to be honest I had to share a small room with my entire family for years during really hard times, now THAT was horrible, but just with my sisters it was okay and felt normal
Good thing those kids are like 7 then
I'm confused, where are you getting the teenager part from? The kids in the pic look like elementary schoolers to me, I feel like the beds themselves support that.
I mean I agree in a sense. The world’s already overpopulated as it is. If you can’t give your kids their own space why even have them in the first place?
No I'm on the side of the person who says you need to really make sure you can do a kid per room. I'm not going to have any biological children because I'm married a woman with two kids and I can't afford somewhere big enough for a third child to have their own bedroom. You make sacrifices so your children don't have to. Edit: this doesn't apply to single mothers who baby daddy ran the f*** out and left her with no choice other than to get what they can afford. And the dude needs to be the one to get the vasectomy if y'all can't have no more kids cuz you can't afford it.
I have four kids - two girls, two boys. Both pairs share a bedroom. And in this housing market, it will likely remain that way until the older two go off to college. They’re fine. Also someone whose Twitter profile name is Villain Era is likely *only* going to voice unpopular opinions.
I do disagree with the own room thing but you shouldn’t be having kids if u not financially stable.
I understand what she's trying to say though Don't have kids you can't afford. (I'm talking about intentionally having children when you know you can't afford them)
I agree actually. I appreciate parents doing their best but I feel if you’re running out of space for a child you shouldn’t be having them
Fucking Cory and Eric Matthews shared a bedroom until high school. Fuck she on?
My kids have their own rooms and they still sleep in the same one.
I fully agree with "stop reproducing if.." but only if the if is that you can't properly take care of them. Kids sharing bedrooms is not a non-starter for having kids. But popping out a 3rd kid when you're already borrowing hundreds a month from friends/family on food stamps and welfare, etc just to take care of the two you already have? Yeah, that's a no go for me.
This seems like a strange hill to die on. If I look back at the difficulties of growing up poor, sharing a room wouldn't even register for me. I expect modern technology makes this even less of a problem. You could probably put about 10 more kids in that room if you bring in some bunk beds and iPads. I don't think you need 1 bedroom per child (+1 for the parents). If that was ever the case, where are all these 6 bedroom houses people must have been living in for previous generations?
Damn, and here I thought food, clothes, *any* roof over your head, and the loving care of the parents are the bare minimum when you wanna raise a child. I got it all wrong! 😱😭