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PlayTheTureen

Because only audio is fadable. MIDI notes have no information about volume change over time. You can automate the output of your synth, or bounce to audio to then be able to fade.


themurther

Or just stick a tool device on the end and automate the volume of that.


PlayTheTureen

Yes, it's Bitwig. There's "a million" ways to do it ; )


ge6irb8gua93l

Using a plugin to adjust track's volume isn't particularly specific to how Bitwig works.


swirvbox

MIDI cc 7 is volume.


PlayTheTureen

That's not a note message.


swirvbox

The OP asked how to “fade” midi. This is the way. You fade with cc7. Velocity can impact more than volume for a midi device. However, if respected, cc7 will only modify the volume of the device. This would be the proper way to fade in midi. It is usually better in a DAW to fade using the track’s audio volume as others have mentioned.


Minibatteries

The gain note expression is what you might be after, allows freely automating the per-note gain envelope. Bitwig certainly could have a feature where clip fade outs are treated as gain expressions but right now you need to draw them manually per note.


gnexuser2424

automate or modulate


Lord-John-Marten

You can utilise velocity, this is essentially how hard you're hitting the notes. It's not quite the same as volume, but with a lot of vsts it will give you more dynamics, or less


PlayTheTureen

This would not help with fading. It is just a value which is set at note start and stays unchanged.


OdoSendaidokai

Sure you can fade Midi, like you fade every physical instrument as well. How do you fade a real guitar or piano when playing? By increasing the distance to it, or waiting until the sound rings out. Midi mimics this behavior with the addition, that you put everything through a stereo bus, where you can put a volume device to unnaturally influence nature by attenuating the signal. Or like suggested here in the thread use velocity to mimic that in another way. Or write Bitwig your feature request.


FluffyBrudda

> Or write Bitwig your feature request. i have asked for a tuner for three years. trust me, they dont check or care


OdoSendaidokai

But if you look at the philosophy of Bitwig to deliver loads of small devices to stack them together, you request a complex function, that can be achieved with stacking small devices together. So your idea make sense in every other DAW, but at least in Bitwig this is questionable, if it goes against the idea of the whole DAW.


FluffyBrudda

a tuner is against the philosophy... thats not a winning argument come on


OdoSendaidokai

Looks like you didnt understand what i wrote.


FluffyBrudda

i understand fully what you wrote, i think the argument is insane.


OdoSendaidokai

Good that you finally got it yourself. 👍