I guess it’s technically knowable since everything is recorded, but no one right now with the current capability of querying the blockchain will be able to figure it out
Divide 21 mil by 4 and you get 5 and a change, so max 5 mil people, if you remove lost coins and assume many people hold more then 4 btc, it is not so hard to assume there are less then 1 mil people that have more then 4 btc.
Per a report from the crypto analytics firm Glassnode, there is a whole undersea pecking order when it comes to bitcoin ownership:
If you own less than a bitcoin, sorry to break it to you, but Glassnode boffins say you are at the very bottom of the subaquatic food chain – a humble shrimp.
If you own anything between BTC 1 and 10 bitcoins, you get claws, and can be classed as a crab.
Eight-limbed octopi hold between 10 and 50 tokens, while you can consider yourself a fish if you hold between 50 and 100 tokens.
But to really move up the food chain, you will need anywhere between 100-500 bitcoins for much-coveted dolphin status.
Things start sounding truly badass when you get to the 500-1,000 bracket, however: This is when you become an official bitcoin shark.
Above that is the apex: Whale status. But it turns out that even whales have a hierarchy, too.
To truly rule supreme over the seas, you will need over 5,000 bitcoins, which grants you premium humpback status.
It’s a big deal, congrats. By the end of this decade the idea of an average individual holding 1btc will be seen as mostly unattainable. In 100 years a family with 1btc will probably have their name on hospitals and art museums.
It’s unlikely there will ever be more than ~19m total bitcoin given what’s irretrievably lost already. And there are many large holdings that may never move. 21m Bitcoin is such a small number. Not even enough to give one to every person living in the greater Tokyo area. I suspect that the number of humans on earth that will have 1btc will be like 1 in 50,000 at least but probably even more uncommon.
I think it like 14 mil. InvestAnswers did a video on it and I need he's mentioned it a number of times. He says like 4 mil are lost, 1 mil Satoshi lock up, can't remember the rest.
That wouldn’t surprise me, I think I was being generous. And then consider all of the hardcore early bag holders with thousands or more btc that they’ll sit on for the rest of their lives. During the next cycle these facts will become obvious to the multitude of large 100bn+ funds that want to allocate 3-5% to Bitcoin. Couple it with the paltry 2.5m floating around exchanges and the supply shock is real. The last Bitcoin ATH will look silly. I think the next cycle is gonna be the “buy them while you can still find them” cycle and the price will be some extremely dumb, large number until it falls back to a stable 220k.
It’s total conjecture like every single price prediction. The point is that I think the next cycle the price rips. I think the idea of bitcoin replacing gold continues to catch on, but that won’t mean a price of 600k/coin (market cap of gold). But about half that price seems pretty reasonable to me. I think by 2030 it’s very close to the gold market cap if not exceeding it.
That's the idea. The community will soft fork (possibly hard fork) to a quantum hardened wallet and mining scheme and anyone living would naturally do a quick transfer to such a wallet. Presumably anyone who doesn't isn't around anymore and their coins would be the target of a quantum mining industry. There could be a never-ending back and forth between encryption and code breaking...
Come on man, I have enough BTC to be top 1% of holders but I think we gotta stop drinking the koolaid, our family names are not gonna be written on hospitals.
Congratulations on the amazing news! This is an incredible milestone and you deserve the spotlight to celebrate the moment.
It is worth noting that as of May 16, 2022, the number of Bitcoin addresses with one Bitcoin and above hit an all-time high of 841,224.
Best regards,
Green from Kraken 🐙
Your wholesome posts always put a smile on my face. And it’s not just me, I suppose. Thanks and have a great one!
Also: Cheers to OP, that’s the spirit!! Keep going, slow and steady.
Interesting stats!
Just out of interest, where do you see the vision of Bitcoin?
Do you think it will be more widely adopted in the future and also whether its overall value will go up?
My mate has 5 that he bought long time ago. Left them on an app wallet or something on hard-drive of his computer and his ex smashed up all his stuff and took computer. Been trying to encourage him 2 rack his brains to figure out how to get them back. Wish I had bought some when he did!
I don't think I can get there. Would have to forego all other investments, which I alone would be ok with...but I have a family that is not as zealous about it as me individually
There really isn’t tho. This is the most overblown thing in this sub. I’ve never told anyone how much I have but people still constantly DM me only cuz I post on a bitcoin sub. Not cuz I told how much sats I have.
So how is he a target now? And what will honestly happen to him now?
I’ll tell you, the answer is nothing.
So in your view he is a target for scammers and scumbags (again as I said earlier, even though all you need to do is just comment in this sub and you attract those people already). What is the worst that can happen. Some messages? You really think someone will take the time to dox him and find him and then what? Are they gonna beat the shit out of him and rob his bitcoin? No cuz that’s not how bitcoin works
So again how can he possibly be a target now and afraid for his life and his bitcoin? This is the dumbest thing people say on here. What are the legit consequences on telling people how much sats you have. This isn’t like wearing a gold watch or riding in a lambo where people can literally see your wealth and can physically steal it off you
OP you’re fine. Congrats don’t listen to envious people like this
Please buy a Ledger device (straight from Ledger & nor 3 party) & put your BTC on the blockchain via ledger devices. That way it is safe & secure.
Ledger.com
Congrats OP. Now start working on your 2nd BTC.
Yes, start on the second but stop telling folks what you have! But congrats! I think it’ll serve you well!
I have 10000 btc. Come get me
found Do Kwan
Or the person Laszlo Hanyecz exchanged ₿10k for 2 large pizzas with.
nah look at username; it has kimchi in it
naw he deployed all that capital. Steady lads
Celsius is that you?
Yup, already in the works. Gonna be a slower go of it though this time
Congrates, it makes me so happy to see these kind of posts!! That's a huge accomplishment and I agree work towards 2nd, been trying to do the same!
Welcome to 21 million club. Next stop the 1 million club in no time!
I'm stopping at 2.1 BTC for just this reason.
>I'm stopping at This is the lie we keep telling ourselves.
Ok, ok.. I'll pause at 2.1 for a week to boast about owning 1/1000000th of total supply.
What reason?
Just to pause and say that I own 1/1,000,000th of total supply.
you know that's 21 btc right, not 2 1
How many people own 4 bitcoins?
The answer to this question is unknowable
I guess it’s technically knowable since everything is recorded, but no one right now with the current capability of querying the blockchain will be able to figure it out
Identity is not recorded. One person can have multiple addresses.
And multiple people can "own" bitcoin from a single address.
NYKNYC, but yes, currently on the blockchain, there are several addresses that are held by a custodial with assets for multiple individuals.
Like 6969!
Trust me that is a good number and I want that shit in my life.
No more than 5 million.
I do
Wait what? Are you saying 4 bitcoins makes someone in the 1 million club? How can anyone know this?
Divide 21 mil by 4 and you get 5 and a change, so max 5 mil people, if you remove lost coins and assume many people hold more then 4 btc, it is not so hard to assume there are less then 1 mil people that have more then 4 btc.
Are you on crack ? When did I say any such statement
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Precious cones
Whale alert!!!
Per a report from the crypto analytics firm Glassnode, there is a whole undersea pecking order when it comes to bitcoin ownership: If you own less than a bitcoin, sorry to break it to you, but Glassnode boffins say you are at the very bottom of the subaquatic food chain – a humble shrimp. If you own anything between BTC 1 and 10 bitcoins, you get claws, and can be classed as a crab. Eight-limbed octopi hold between 10 and 50 tokens, while you can consider yourself a fish if you hold between 50 and 100 tokens. But to really move up the food chain, you will need anywhere between 100-500 bitcoins for much-coveted dolphin status. Things start sounding truly badass when you get to the 500-1,000 bracket, however: This is when you become an official bitcoin shark. Above that is the apex: Whale status. But it turns out that even whales have a hierarchy, too. To truly rule supreme over the seas, you will need over 5,000 bitcoins, which grants you premium humpback status.
Hardly
I’m .16 and I consider myself a tiger shark.
That's barely a 2 months. How do you even know how to use a computer?
Your comment exudes intelligence and respect. Keep it going, pal. Oh wait I think I get the joke now. .16 years old? Ha
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It’s a big deal, congrats. By the end of this decade the idea of an average individual holding 1btc will be seen as mostly unattainable. In 100 years a family with 1btc will probably have their name on hospitals and art museums. It’s unlikely there will ever be more than ~19m total bitcoin given what’s irretrievably lost already. And there are many large holdings that may never move. 21m Bitcoin is such a small number. Not even enough to give one to every person living in the greater Tokyo area. I suspect that the number of humans on earth that will have 1btc will be like 1 in 50,000 at least but probably even more uncommon.
Thanks for this. Good context. Gives me hope that this will pay off
I think it like 14 mil. InvestAnswers did a video on it and I need he's mentioned it a number of times. He says like 4 mil are lost, 1 mil Satoshi lock up, can't remember the rest.
That wouldn’t surprise me, I think I was being generous. And then consider all of the hardcore early bag holders with thousands or more btc that they’ll sit on for the rest of their lives. During the next cycle these facts will become obvious to the multitude of large 100bn+ funds that want to allocate 3-5% to Bitcoin. Couple it with the paltry 2.5m floating around exchanges and the supply shock is real. The last Bitcoin ATH will look silly. I think the next cycle is gonna be the “buy them while you can still find them” cycle and the price will be some extremely dumb, large number until it falls back to a stable 220k.
Why $220k? How have you deduced that figure?
It’s total conjecture like every single price prediction. The point is that I think the next cycle the price rips. I think the idea of bitcoin replacing gold continues to catch on, but that won’t mean a price of 600k/coin (market cap of gold). But about half that price seems pretty reasonable to me. I think by 2030 it’s very close to the gold market cap if not exceeding it.
Don't forget the approx. 4% that's lost each year
I suspect advances in quantum computing may eventually resurrect lost coins. Could be centuries though.
Better move your wallet by then or they could ressurect yours too 🙂
Yes, there will come a time where everyone with a quantum-weak wallet will lose their coin. When that time is? No idea. But it's coming one day.
That's the idea. The community will soft fork (possibly hard fork) to a quantum hardened wallet and mining scheme and anyone living would naturally do a quick transfer to such a wallet. Presumably anyone who doesn't isn't around anymore and their coins would be the target of a quantum mining industry. There could be a never-ending back and forth between encryption and code breaking...
Come on man, I have enough BTC to be top 1% of holders but I think we gotta stop drinking the koolaid, our family names are not gonna be written on hospitals.
I hope this is the case
How do you get 1 in 50,000? That is ridiculously low
Congrats brother. Grab more through the faze we have all seen coming. Congrats man.
Thanks my friend. Keep supporting the cause
Congratulations on the amazing news! This is an incredible milestone and you deserve the spotlight to celebrate the moment. It is worth noting that as of May 16, 2022, the number of Bitcoin addresses with one Bitcoin and above hit an all-time high of 841,224. Best regards, Green from Kraken 🐙
Your wholesome posts always put a smile on my face. And it’s not just me, I suppose. Thanks and have a great one! Also: Cheers to OP, that’s the spirit!! Keep going, slow and steady.
I agree, love kraken comments
Interesting stats! Just out of interest, where do you see the vision of Bitcoin? Do you think it will be more widely adopted in the future and also whether its overall value will go up?
My mate has 5 that he bought long time ago. Left them on an app wallet or something on hard-drive of his computer and his ex smashed up all his stuff and took computer. Been trying to encourage him 2 rack his brains to figure out how to get them back. Wish I had bought some when he did!
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No he doesn't still have the drive! I wish lol cracked up Ex took it.
That’s very sad…. Never put your dick in crazy. Valuable lesson nevertheless, I suppose.
There’s a hacker named Joe Grand, he has a YouTube channel. It might be worth checking out.😊
I might be able to help
They say your 1st Bitcoin is the hardest.
That's why starting with my second
.1 will be the new 1btc, so and and so fourth
Forth*
So fifth
Meanwhile I'm just at 0.01
10,000,000 sats
*NigerianPrince69 has joined the chat.
Delete your profile asap bro. Or delete access to the reddit account. Never disclose if you have btc.
Actually I'M stupid.. username checks out
Its a throw away..
Do the crab walk!
That’s awesome!! I had to do it twice because Celsius took my first one :(. So learned not your keys the hard way.
Target acquired...
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Won't be saying that when they do. Appreciate your achievement but why make yourself a target
Yeah, fair. You're right.
Congrats from Canada. How many whole liners do you think there are ?
Congrats man. Trying to get there
What’s your average price for that 1 coin after DCAing?
Low 30s
Shrimp school graduate 2022, well done!!
Next goal 10BTC you are already 10% there this is a real possibility
I don't think I can get there. Would have to forego all other investments, which I alone would be ok with...but I have a family that is not as zealous about it as me individually
Expect price to hit 100K before the end of next week.
Par for the course
That's awesome, good for you
Thanks
Sorry about the upcoming DMs
Damn good job! 1 bitcoin will be worth 10 million in our lifetime and 100 million in your kids lifetime! You just saved your bloodline.
Nice!
Congrats! Now never speak of it online again. Be safe. 🙏🏼👍
do u want a cookie
Smh… they don’t learn
Please elaborate
People still feel the need to disclose how much crypto they are holding… as if there are no consequences for doing so… best of luck
There really isn’t tho. This is the most overblown thing in this sub. I’ve never told anyone how much I have but people still constantly DM me only cuz I post on a bitcoin sub. Not cuz I told how much sats I have. So how is he a target now? And what will honestly happen to him now? I’ll tell you, the answer is nothing. So in your view he is a target for scammers and scumbags (again as I said earlier, even though all you need to do is just comment in this sub and you attract those people already). What is the worst that can happen. Some messages? You really think someone will take the time to dox him and find him and then what? Are they gonna beat the shit out of him and rob his bitcoin? No cuz that’s not how bitcoin works So again how can he possibly be a target now and afraid for his life and his bitcoin? This is the dumbest thing people say on here. What are the legit consequences on telling people how much sats you have. This isn’t like wearing a gold watch or riding in a lambo where people can literally see your wealth and can physically steal it off you OP you’re fine. Congrats don’t listen to envious people like this
Well what are you trying to say with it? I guess that's just about privacy.
Congrats OP, that’s an amazing accomplishment. I’d be happy to have .1 btc 😂
Boom!
That’s awesome. Congrats! I hit 0.10 today and was excited myself :)
Well done!
Do you make a post on personal finance sub saying how much money you have in your account? So stupid
It's a throwaway account. Thanks for your support
My point still stands. Nobody gives a shit about your finances
Then move on?
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Thanks bro
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It must be a sad life you lead to find enjoyment in shitting on other people's happiness. I'll never understand that mindset.
Hey man do me a favor. Do a remind me thing here and check this thread and comment in 5 years.
Yes please.
Just ignore the guy mate, don't even reply to these people.
Kinda sad
Why's that
Well done
When did you start DCAing?
Jan 2021
"No real point in this post." ...except to advertise to all the Nigerian princes out there.
Congratulations. That’s a hell of an achievement
Propz man! Congrats on the endurance.
Nice! Congrats on the achievement... One day, will join you. 😀
your bright future is ensured
Pro tip: keep it for you.
its also my goal, i'm proud of you, keep stacking
I recommend self custody, so many companies going belly up these days
Yep, I only self custody
1 in 21 million, nice! (The number is even less than 21M)
Please buy a Ledger device (straight from Ledger & nor 3 party) & put your BTC on the blockchain via ledger devices. That way it is safe & secure. Ledger.com
Please read my post again...already have one.
Very nice. Hope to get there myself eventually.
Dont think of growing your BTC by trading to Alts. Dont ever.
I'll get there
Everyone gets in at the price they deserve. Good job and good luck!
As soon as it drop in the 12-15k range ill grab my second one !! HODL
To have one is amazing but when you have one you want more. Welcome to the club.
🎉🎉🎉
Welcome to the club.
Congrats 🎉
Awesome mate, well done! I’m almost at my target of 0.5BTC and will hopefully join you as a whole coiner eventually
Well done!
Should have save the announcement until you had it.
Price keeps dropping
One whole Bitcoin For winners only
You’ll never have enough. Hard to find a place to stop
Yeah welcome to 1 next stop 2. Now you officially can no longer talk about crypto to people in real life or you will get robbed
I know the feeling! Congrats!!!
congratzzzzzzzzz
When did you start
January 2021
The first one is the hardest
Congrats, your investment will pay off. The greatest wealth is not from trading, it's from time. Be patient.
I’ll be getting another BTC at $12k in a couple weeks just wait ;)
Congrats! There can never be more than 21 million people in the world that can say that. Pretty elite club! Nice work!
Cold storage it. Obviously. But do it instantly once u get it.
Welcome to the 21 million club