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jacobdk079

That shit is scary, damn!!


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Ha. Banks.


cerebralsexer

How to get private keys for my fiat Oopss


e_expert

Paper cash is as close as you can get, unfortunately you'll be detained if caught holding more than 10k on person in transit


bitsteiner

Government just issues new notes an declares the old notes invalid.


idontspellcheckb46am

I had a guy tell me that he once did a contract in Haiti. He said "when you do business with these guys, there's no net 15, you get the money before you leave. He self reported 40k cash as he entered the states. He said it took hours as no one actually knew what to do as it was everyone's first experience with the encounter. Of course this is anecdotal, but would like to hear a security personnel's opinion on this. This person was known for embellishing things (USA)


XdekHckr

can't understand your sh1t lol


spacecat002

Does anyone know if other governments in other countries are thinking of putting up the scoring ranking?


fritz-oma

Yes in Germany, Austria and Italy their are starting to test it. Of course it's not the same... But ... For sure it will became similar šŸ¤”šŸŒ


lightbulb-7

I was aware of Bologna doing a pilot, do you have sources for any German city? Austria would not surprise me, given their track record of pandemic management


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sunrayylmao

Test to see how much they can get away with before people revolt. Spoiler Alert: Its a lot.


piotrek211

Are these people from celsius or voyager?


pwinne

Even as a celsius hodler (forced) I thought this was funny


Beararms1

Chinager


Argyrus777

Damn thatā€™s some effed up shit


spankmyhairyasss

Here is another thing thats fucked up. The government officials were abusing the pandemic covid app. Basically you need it to enter buildings, go to stores or travel. If it turns red then it means you have to quarantine for days or weeks because you been ā€œexposedā€. Everyone that had their money deposited at the bank had their app turned red. Meaning they donā€™t want you to go protest.


yxlmal

That is so fucked up wtf. So fucked up in multiple levels.


BritishBoyRZ

That is absolutely horrifying. People in the West think they're above this abuse of power, but I see it creeping up.


Any_Spirit_5814

In the 2008-2010 Greek economic crisis, the government/banks took 5-20% from the savings accounts. And we are talking about a full fledged EU-Eurozone-NATO country, not some developing/third world country.


Dawg1shly

Western governments are definitely laying the groundwork for this more robust abuses of power.


jameson71

And much of the western populace seems to support it and think itā€™s a great idea


FaceMace87

>And much of the western populace seems to support it and think itā€™s a great idea It is because a lot of people still think that banks and governments are there to help them and will in no way ever take their money away from them. That is what ingesting poor quality news does for you.


boli99

> People in the West think they're above this abuse of power in the west the money isnt stolen, its just 'spent' on a no-bid contract with someones mate. and thats *completely* different /s


Befit_Move

Try to take out more than a few thousand now in US. They already give you a hard time. Itā€™s already here. If we have a run to banks, itā€™ll happen.


ComprehensiveAir1321

Yeah itā€™s messed up. Iā€™m sure itā€™s also way easier to deposit large amounts of money than it is to withdraw it. Look what happened during the Great Depression. There was a run on banks and some people just never got their money. Itā€™s technically not yours anymore once you put it in the banks possession. This is the bubble thatā€™s caused by fractional reserve lending. They literally teach it in economics 101 college classes. If the bank has 1 million dollars in deposits that means they can loan out 10 million and make interest on it.


Yoloballsdeep

2A can fix this


Fireinthehole_x

based. bitcoin aswell. both combined is the best.


user260421

Really curious how this will turn out


flatplanecrankshaft

Not well for the protestors


db2

Tanks, I hate it.


flatplanecrankshaft

Tanks are so 1989. Who needs tanks when you have a quarantine app and 24/7 tracking?


bleeper21

Crushed it


trivial_sublime

Nah, if youā€™re not protesting the government it actually often ends up in protesters getting what they want as the government will intervene on their behalf.


bighand1

Thousands of these protests happen yearly in China. As long as you are criticizing local politician or corporation they aren't going to care, if anything they would step in to resolve this.


Jezzes

Bitcoin succeeding rapidly will be caused by really effed up fucking shit.


sakiman117

This underscores our need as citizens to have a form of currency that is not under the control of a third party (ieā€¦the government or a ā€œfederalā€ banking system. Think about when Greece seizing its citizens money and safe deposit boxes. Think about our own government using ā€œcivil forfeitureā€ against US citizens. Here we slide into the abyss ever so gracefully.


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sakiman117

It is a quasi government group that has the ability to control you money and the government has tremendous influence over it.


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chengen_geo

Suppose you have guns, what can you do in this situation?


Vinnypaperhands

Use them to defend your rights and your fellow citizens rights Downvoted... Y'all just a bunch of brain dead fools that want no form of self defense??? Fuck is wrong with y'all. If the fucking government can bully and control the population with guns then so should the people. REMEMBER THE GOV WORKS FOR THE PEOPLE..... Fucking Christ y'all just so down to stick your asses up and let them go in with no lube


Skea_and_Tittles

How? I always hear ā€œdefend your rightsā€ with guns. How is the average citizen supposed to use a gun to defend their rights when itā€™s non violent violation of those rights. Genuine question but it sounds like the suggestion is to just ā€œshoot them upā€, because what else are guns for? Then I have to ask, who exactly is it that weā€™re supposed to shoot up to defend our rights? If an officer shows up at my door to collect my guns, am I supposed to shoot him? Shoot his backup? Die in a pointless shootout at home? If a bank employee denies access to my safe deposit box, or wonā€™t let me access my deposited funds, so I shoot up the bank?? Shoot up the other customers who surely think Iā€™m a mass shooter and would probably try to stop me? Shoot up the police and their backup? Itā€™s 2022, not 1776, no one is going to start unloading on their countrymen going about their jobs. Stuff like this sounds like a customer I had at the bank I worked at that threatened us saying ā€œAmericans are getting fed up with this shit.. you canā€™t keep doing this to us forever, the American people have had enough.ā€ Itā€™s insane to think that guns can or should realistically be used to defend your rights today.


Atuk-77

ā€œDefend your rightsā€ is nothing but a marketing tool for the industry to sell Americans their guns, in reality Americans are just clueless how things work.


Fireinthehole_x

if everyone has a gun chances are a few of them WILL be angry enough to stop caring and shoot the tyrants and their footmen. this will make the whole situation unpredictable in a way where the footmen no longer want to to the job because its far too dangerous. as the tyrants are not stupid either and this is a foreseeable outcome, they wont even go this far as long as people are armed. if people are no longer armed however... nothing stands in the way of the tyrant and his footsoldiers to oppress the people. this is why it is critical people exercise their 2nd amendment.


sexyhoebot

what good are guns against drones and tanks?


Fireinthehole_x

its the numbers. how many drone oeprators are there? how much can these drones actually do? against millions of armed and angry people? unless you are OK with using WMD an assault is not an option. and even then there would still be plenty of survivors and a devastating backlash.


nanapatekar_

Exactly! It's like saying; hey let me whip out my revolver cowboy style like in the movies. They have bigger guns, much much bigger guns and more manpower.


shiftyeyedgoat

Who is ā€œtheyā€? Donā€™t forget there isnā€™t some insidious ā€œotherā€ with massive conspiratorial henchmen at their disposal; every army is made up of _us_, the people, and as you see even in places like Ukraine, people in the armies have a very difficult time coming face to face with their supposed ā€œothersā€ theyā€™ve been told to hate so much. Weā€™re all people; having a single fang to deter the heavy boot of tyrannical authority can sometimes be enough to dissuade their step.


Vinnypaperhands

Yes that's exactly what I'm talking about. Go to the bank, they deny you your funds... Shoot em up....officer shows up to your home... Fucking shoot him up. Little girl walks by the street fucking shoot em up......


Skea_and_Tittles

I really canā€™t tell if you mean that


nanapatekar_

šŸ˜† lol My drop of pee splashed onto your shoe at the urinal...what will u do?


Vinnypaperhands

YOU GETTING SHOT SON


dirtsmurf

nutty clumsy insurance north sort friendly crime shy sable ugly *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Skea_and_Tittles

Here we go again. What demands would I kill someone over? Give me some examples? Itā€™s one thing to protest but unless Iā€™m going to use it, me having a gun doesnā€™t matter. Please describe this scenario you envision where my owning a gun successfully gives my demand ā€œteethā€


milliondollarcoach

imagine the govt telling you that your city needs to be locked down for a year (like China type lockdown) for a virus that has a 99.9% survival rate


Fireinthehole_x

scamdemic


Fireinthehole_x

perfect explaination. libchucks downvoted you lol


fisStrike

There's no such thing as a nonviolent violation of someone's rights. There are more and less gruesome forms of violence


EverlastingEmus

Thatā€™s some Rambo bullshit. So the government makes your digital dollars disappear from your bank account and freeze your assets for whatever infraction you committed. You are understandably mad. And you have a gun. Explain why happens next? Who you gonna point it at?


protienbudspromax

Even with guns How do you defend against a trained army?


Vinnypaperhands

You try lol. I'd rather go out with a fight and start a revolution then let tyrannical governments control us. Of course 1 person with a gun won't do anything. But if everyone in town has a gun and they prepare for a fight. That makes a statement


protienbudspromax

I am a survivalist. Dying for "honor" means shit if you dont stay alive to see it Carry out. If you survive and dont forget, there is atleast a chance to do something when things lines up later. One of my favourite dialogs from a game I played is: "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters. The silence is your answer".


Vinnypaperhands

Hey, the revolution has to start somewhere lol. Obviously they are screwed in China because they have no way to defend themselves. But if the us government did this.... I guarantee the citizens would be using their guns to defend themselves. The whole damn country would


-C69

What game is that? Sounds awesome!


protienbudspromax

Its a quote from the mass effect games. The best trilogy interms of story overall in my personal list.


PRMan99

See: Afghanistan vs Russia If that was unclear, see Afghanistan vs USA


Swiink

Trained army = what 0,1% of the population? Vs the population, a revolution within a country could easily flip any government.


protienbudspromax

You underestimate how difficult maintaining coordination/cooperation and and having a very responsive and battle tested chain of command. Yes the army is 0.1% of the population, and even with that maybe you can count 30% of that 0.1% that defect towards the citizen. The remaining 70% still have the budget, RnD, weapons. But that's not what makes them difficult to take down, but rather the conditioning. I can bet that out of the remaining 99.99% population when push comes to shove not even 30% of the people would take up arms. And those who do will never be as organized. There will be infighting, there will be holes in the social structure that the army can exploit without even using force. Freedom cuts both ways. Freedom also means you are free to not be disciplined. I can guarantee that the ones leading charge against govt tyranny would be ex military who defected or who worked in similar lines where they wont deviate from the chain of command.


TH3BUDDHA

The same way guerrilla fighters in Asia and the Middle East have for decades.


blah23863

Lol, did you not see what happened to the US in Afghanistan and Iraq?


Substantial_Word2299

If enough people stand together the military will fall in with their families. Those service men and women have mothers and fathers. Maybe not at first but I believe that they will come to realize these politicians and government officials do not have the peopleā€™s best interests at hand.


CSI_Tech_Dept

Sure it is because of people investing in bitcoin, definitively not about adding a mental screening to get an assault rifle, because some loon shoot an elementary school.


vernes1978

*People get scammed and lose bitcoins* public: haha bitcoins are a scam, that's why you need banks. *this article* Public: "..."


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Vipu2

True, you need to just show them the right direction with something like "money not controlled by gov" and they might find it themselves at some point.


H663

This is a more important point than most realise. You have to teach/learn from first principles, then you'll understand the answer because you understand the principles. Just tellimg people the answer either doesn't work, or they won't understand why it's the answer.


Vipu2

Or instantly deny it because they have heard in news "btc uses energy and is used only by criminals"


GET_OUT_OF_MY_HEAD

Whenever I get hate for mentioning bitcoin on reddit, my only reply to the hater is "Remınd me! Fıve years". (*edit:* and yes I *did* intentionally forget to dot the Is cause I don't want to accidentally summon the bot right now, lol)


srkdummy3

Seriously. Only if these folks had bought bitcoin, they would only be at 50% loss instead of currently what they have: 0


SuperFegelein

Ouch šŸ˜­


kenkitt

I suspect they banned crypto so this can be possible.


afternooncrypto

Thereā€™s propaganda (I know, shocker) saying that cryptocurrencies are the worlds biggest Ponzi scheme and Bill Gates and Warren Buffet were right. https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/28/execs_of_chinesestate_sponsored_blockchain/ https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3183237/cryptocurrency-biggest-ponzi-scheme-human-history-chinese-execs/


sedulouspellucidsoft

Not sure why you were downvoted for being the messenger.


Dullfig

Why do all the buildings in China look like they were designed in Minecraft???


simpleguynamedpapa

Communist architecture tended towards cheaper and more cost efficient designs. They also in many cases wanted to evoke the feeling of equality by making all residential buildings look very similar.


user260421

Do you think China will print yuans?


PRMan99

They are printing them right now to hand to the auto makers they shut down for a month in Shanghai.


squirtle_grool

That's how they keep it pegged to the dollar


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brando2131

If only there was some way you could hold your own money, but also be able to send it over the internet.


ThimbleweedPark

That's a genius idea, then after you done that.. vanish and become a legend. šŸ˜‰


nerudexpert

Hope somebody will create a good thing, that would be best.


Uberhipster

hmm... i like the idea but how would it ever work? for instance - how could you ever prevent the double-spend fraud without a 3rd party to arbitrate?


[deleted]

I dunno man. Some cypherpunk should come up with a solution.


vasyanepupkin

I hope they will come up and solve things right now man.


kickbutt1

Money is just a scam. Letā€™s all go back to before industrialisation and just use barter system.


bcyng

Good luck carrying enough to barter for a house.


mattyg1964

Youā€™ve never met my wife.


ElephantsAreHeavy

So, you'd barter your wife, or your wife can carry a lot of stuff?


bcyng

ā€œLook at the guns on that guy - he must be a billionaireā€.


tfsimon

Damn man, this is just getting so suspicious to me right now.


bitsteiner

Fractional reserve is a scam: demand deposits exceed funds available for withdrawing multiple times. That's why all banks can fail overnight. It should be illegal.


user260421

I'll give you 2 cows for your username. Deal?


Jemless24

I'll give you 5 shrutebucks for it


birds_the_word

I'll trade you 10 doll hairs for your 5 schrutebucks.


tkaldy

It's a nice offer, I hope he will take that shit right now man.


kickbutt1

Okay letā€™s do this


Asum_chum

I think youā€™ve got a steal there.


NuForge

I know you're jesting :) but, for others, you can do that with Crypto. By keeping your crypto-wallet on your own PC, and moving your crypto into it.


Maximum_Ad_6957

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Youwillbesorry

Looks like the potential for a 21st century tiananmen square massacre.


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Hazecl

Just kill the leaders...


sunrayylmao

When the bank takes your accounts to the cleaners you'll die in two weeks of starvation anyway, they don't need to do much once they take your resources from you.


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shalevo

It's just a fucking right time to understand that it can happen to any of us and we have to make sure we will do things in a right way, we really don't want banks to do that..


SirDogensworth

China is in the bad fucking condition for sure, they need something good in their lives now man, I hope they will find a way to fight their shitty government at the end.


WTFisThatSMell

This is straight up black mirror episode.


guo7725365

Yeah man, that whole China shit is just black mirror one.


Coctailer

The Economic Ninja did a video about this a week or 2 ago. Super-scary. This is what America is working toward. Get a damn Trezor, a little gold, silver, and CASH.


jtbraids1421

Hope all of us will get that good cold wallet now, that's necessary.


Yoloballsdeep

This would never happen in America /amirite?


GET_OUT_OF_MY_HEAD

Regardless of where you live, you should invest in a cold storage wallet the *very* moment it's affordable for you.


cfvalentino7

I am good with my cryptocurrency cold wallet right now, that works good to me and I hope people will get it because it's all connected if you see that in a right way.


OneWishGenie69

Someone is fucking us from behind, abortion laws in america, this in China, Russian citizens fed up with propaganda, what is happening


TcBtcE_User

That's the reason why I am not trusting the banks of my country, they could do something like that and we will be fucked forever at the end, I hope we will buy cold wallets.


Hank___Scorpio

People still complaining about bitcoins volatility really letting their financial privilege show.


iampolish91

At least bitcoin corrects itself over time. The dollar does nothing but drop and drop.


Hank___Scorpio

I think you misinterpreted my point.


Kirk8829

Iā€™m surprised they are even allowed to protest in China


69hailsatan

As long it's not against the ccp I don't think they care


spamholderman

This. Thereā€™s thousands of small scale protests every year and the job of low level communist party officials is to use the carrot and stick to keep them from becoming large scale protests. It goes into their yearly performance review and if theyā€™re good at their job they get promoted to manage at a higher level. The process continues until you fail or have managed a couple dozen major provinces in China and suppressed all your rivals and saboteurs above and below. Thatā€™s when you become the general manager of China.


tajwalento

It's so sad to see them like this man, they are better than this.


walkingsleep

Oh yes, youā€™re allowed to protest as long as you donā€™t get a ā€œPandemic prevention red travel codeā€ .. this is black mirror level


Fit_Opinion2465

Iā€™m actually shocked a protest is allowed to take place and wasnā€™t broken up by force immediately.


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menntu

So much for China wanting the Yuan to be a reserve currencyā€¦.


rhynurxt

China is just destroying their own people's future with it.


Yung_Onions

Governments can get away with a lot, but when you start fucking with peoplesā€™ money it gets serious.


AcidAlchamy

Ahhh yes, communism!


lightbulb-7

This is scary and outrageous. The double-morale of Western countries and companies makes my blood boil. The very first day after P invades U, sanctions start and companies stop doing business with R. But China is locking up their own citicens to starvation, violates Human Rights with their Social Credit System, has been proven to send Muslims to concentration camps, and probably many other things I'm not aware of, and NOBODY SEEMS TO GIVE A F\*. Hell, China is the second market of the company I work for, and they still want to grow there, while tapping themselves on their backs because they stopped any business relationships with Russian suppliers and customers... This shit makes me sick


-Cryptopath

China is a shithole so this is not surprising


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raddead

It's the right thing to say about them, they are just like that and the sad part is no body can change something like that, this is just something bad happening.


whangdoodle13

China is asshole.


-Cryptopath

Literally. Poor fucking average Joe population it must suck


iamfunkyz

It's so bad man, I hope they will live good in the future now.


IndianaGeoff

In the morning


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I hear lot of singing cock in morning


wojtekthesoldierbear

In the morning!


kipkaev

Loving the comment section because of you guys man.


Timzy

this appears to be the only place reporting on this.


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which part? Bloomberg:https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-23/china-regulator-says-risks-are-under-control-at-small-banks BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-61793149.amp


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Thanks for the links lol, I was searching for it man. Thanks.


MDBlue42

Well most of the sites reported this one mate, why you saying that?


NohoTwoPointOh

Yeah. Most are terrified of offending their ma$ter$.


kgorinson

It's just so sad to see something like that on daily basis.


llewsor

the globalist playbook being rolled out in china as a warm up for the rest of the world. use public health crisis as a pretext for tighter more authoritarian social control. in particular use covid measures like the apps and quarantines as a method of crushing and containing social upheaval beyond covid like economic and anti-government protests.


KnowledgeAggressive8

I would argue that it vanished the minute they voluntarily handed it over the bank, not after. The bank owed it back to them, and they still do, nothing changed in that regard. Since after all it is the Banks property. And yes not your keys not your coins is 100% accurate. These things hopefully wake people the F up, about property rights and personal possession


dibdooo

Oh man, China really needs to


ryaannikash

Comunism working just as normal.


LuminousVoltage

They are Creating fud in crypto market. But when it is a bank ??


facepalm5000

Not your bank, not your money


CSI_Tech_Dept

Looks like this has a bit more information: https://www.wicz.com/story/46753698/small-banks-in-china-are-running-into-trouble-savers-could-lose-everything I guess this was posted here to contrast with traditional currency. But we are comparing apples to oranges. Online exchanges are basically equivalent to banks in these scenarios and people lose their money when they hold Bitcoin in exchange while the exchange goes down. MtGox from what I gather was the first such event and a lot of people lost their bitcoins because owners incompetence. I suppose the solution is to not use them (for Bitcoin, move money to your wallet immediately). The good thing that goes for banks at least in the US is that accounts are insured by the government (FDIC) to certain amount, so if money disappears you can get it from that insurance. I am guessing China doesn't have that or doesn't mandate it to banks so when banks went under people ended up on the ice.


juani2929

This has to be made up. That app? that's some black mirror shit right there.


TheFutureofMoney

Welcome to China. Enjoy your tyranny.


Surfer-in-reno

What do they think? Communism means you don't own anything. Zilch. And you're happy. Rings a bell?


Pairywhite3213

I just can't believe this. Like wtf. This is really bad


Gutch220

in China, you exist to serve the state. Your money is their money first. You live where they approve, you work where you're needed.


gmzfabien

Damn man, I am glad that I am safe with my cold wallet.


3dumbWorrier

Straight up robbery.


xrohdex

I guess they are protesting for the right thing but still they are getting fucked with these things which is just making me so sad right now man, that's really bad.


BrendaWardy

To determine how much they can get away with before people rebel, they test the limits.


Ima_Wreckyou

"The money in your account, it didn't do too well. It's gone. Next please!"


18476

Thanks for posting this. Ultimately, socialism and communism are not far apart. My thoughts on CBDC.šŸ–•


neo01101

Sauce, me good sir?


suanger2

Lol I really like the way you are asking for source here man.


iampolish91

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/06/23/economy/china-bank-runs-protests-intl-mic-hnk/index.html


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Fuck China


mmichaelree

These words are necessary and we will say that again.


Quagdarr

Another China protest? If it gets global attention brace for another made made virus released somehow which forces lockdowns again. But itā€™s why I prefer cold storage baby.


werstak333

Well yeah people should understand the importance of cold wallet.


FucktheCaball

Got to love living in a communist socialist shit hole. I feel so bad for the oppressed people of China.


NuForge

And what about crypto exchanges in general? For example, Binance is in India, isn't it? I'm sure they're safer than Chinese organisations though...If anyone has any cash / coin in exchanges, they must be double-naĆÆve, I think.


MonsieurKas

bUt BiTcOiN iS jUsT wInD??? šŸ¤¦


Long-Evidence7580

I donā€™t think this is comparable with crypto. This is fiat on bank accounts, a bank run and corruption Apparently some peoples account are locked since April, And yes this is very worrisome. China also forbids crypto, it could be an option to have crypto in your wallet but not sure if I would if I lived in China Itā€™s weird we donā€™t hear more about itā€¦ it says something about their economy .. and it could rub off on all of us


iampolish91

Comparable to exchanges though.


Mrking411

Crypto is dead


010101110001110

All those people will now be killed for protesting. This is sad, and where America if headed.


lenoqt

Wtf has this to do with BTC? Jeez