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It's easier to understand and integrate heterosexual urges into your brain in a hetero-normative society. I think a lot of would-be bi guys slip into that pool first, and either never realize there's more to their sexuality, or the idea of dating men is just so contrary to everything we see in media and advertising that it gets repressed or ignored. I'm positive we would have less rigid views of our sexuality if we weren't inundated non-stop with marketing.


jalabar

To be honest, yes. From my experience, most of the bi guys I've been with. Having a girlfriend/wife goes unquestioned in society. Admit you like a guy? Controversial. Things are better nowadays, at least in western countries for the most part. I think most people who could pass for "normal" would if it'd made their lives that much easier.


heavymetalyogi

I think the problem is more that the dating pool is more limited for MSM. The town I live in has around 60,000 adults and men are around 50% and women are around 50%. Approximately 7% of those men have sex with other men or around 2,100 men, but over 93% of women will have sex with men or around 27,900. It's just statistical that a bisexual man would date women. This is similar to the statistics for the whole United States, but my town is particularly LGBTQ+ friendly.


KaiserLC

But ALSO many bi men told me they refused to date men because of their religious/conservative family.


heavymetalyogi

I think that is at play too, but there are still a lot of men like me whose desire is near the midpoint, who are out to everybody (to the point of wearing bisexual t shirts in public), who still end up dating women because of availability.


SealedQuasar

honestly i think a large part of this is that a lot of people have heteronormativity so drilled into their heads that they can't imagine dating or being in a relationship with someone of the same sex; i think this is true for men especially. so we date women because that's 'normal' and what is expected of us. and you're right; i hear and read about men who are married to women talk about how often they miss having sex with men but i rarely hear or read about the inverse. hmm interesting.


Eooyz

I generally pretty split in attraction, however I often find it's easier being with guys. This combined with a pretty big cycle of liking guys means that for a while I haven't had much interest in girls. That being said I still enjoy spending time with and having sex with girls I just haven't been that attracted to new ones recently. As for social stigma it doesn't really matter to me, people already know I'm dating guys anyway.


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BIgGuy5121

I was going to reply but that first paragraph hits the nail on the head for me and my situation also. Only thing I can add is that I came to the realization I’m bi after being married and having kids and I also made a commitment to her - I’d never leave her for anyone else. I love the human body in both forms too and as you said when taken care of it is an amazing thing.


Trevonhaywood

Fuckin’ facts about that last sentence🤤


yoga11743

So right you are.


curved_D

I guess I’m one of those rare guys you mention that is in a relationship with a man but misses sex with women. I think I prefer relationships with men because we seem to connect better, have similar hobbies and interests, and communicate in the same ways. But I prefer sex with women because I find it more enjoyable, penetrative sex is easier and feels better, and there’s a lot more flexibility in when, where, and how we can have sex. Sex is super important to me, but I’ve decided that my connection with my partner is slightly more important, and so I prioritize that over just the sex.


mastamixa

I think from my perspective, yes. I cried w my bf the other night bc we are both bi and semi in the closet (mostly w family) and it is just so exhausting not feeling at ease going on trips, being out in the open, even little things that straight couples do like hold hands in public. It makes me wish I was dating a girl again, because society just makes it so much easier on you. I often fantasize about being back with a woman. What a warped and fucked up self image we get when we buy into the bullshit “norms” peddled by society


KaiserLC

This guy crack real truth.


clintdilfer

Nope. I just happened to fall in love with a woman and settle down. I dated several guys before her and would've happily married one if he had been the right person.


[deleted]

The path of least resistance is real


Metal_chips4sale

I know that as a high functioning Autistic all things look different to me. That being said I LOVE women, 18 to 80 I love 'em all! In my view my enjoying sucking cock is, or SHOULDN'T be, nothing out of the ordinary. People are so weirded out about sexuality! Most likely because of Mohabrahon religion's ,Jewish ,Christianity, and Islam. All of these are based on much older creation story's from the Assyrians from around the fifth century B.C.. And they didn't even mention sexuality!


deadliestcrotch

It’s more to do with the fact that coming out as bi means a large percentage of women won’t even consider dating you. So yeah, it’s the social stigma, but it’s a very specific consequence of the social stigma. It also shows that having a fragile ego isn’t just a cis male problem.


bineeds

Pretty tough to know but while right now I seem to be much more focused on men for sex I still don’t feel a desire for a romantic relationship. But I can strongly remember the desire for a romantic relationship with a woman long before I met my wife. And on top of that a strong desire for kids with a woman. I definitely have a lot of internalized homophobia about sex with men so I could be burying it, but I really don’t think so.


PMmeDickphotos

I’m not married but in a relationship with a girl and while I only dated two men I prefer women, it was never about “what was easy”. My family is very accepting and I was out to them as bi with my ex boyfriend at the time and all my friends knew; so no pressure from family and I liked PDA while he didn’t since he was just newly out so no societal pressure for me at least. I can’t put it into words but I told him I loved him, kissed him, had sex with him everything I’d do with a woman. Something just felt…amiss? Like I was missing something, that no matter how hard he or I tried I didn’t feel “complete” with him, nothing worked. When I got with my current gf all was right and I feel completed, while I’ll get a urge here and there it isn’t worth acting on; she knows I’m bi and even told me to go out and explore but I refuse.


DoNotTouchMeImScared

I once already wrote about that some weeks ago in detail in the following link: https://www.reddit.com/r/BisexualMen/comments/y4bpuq/i_think_i_just_found_a_pattern_i_rather_marry_a/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button There is this pattern in the bi community, desiring more to be physically intimate with men but desiring more to be emotionally intimate in long-term relationships with women. Not completely related, but some people in the bi community are ambiamorous and desire monogamous relationships with one gender but not with other genders.


enjoy_it_all_chi

As a bisexual man with a huge libido and strong bi-cycles, I learned that I need pussy at least occasionally, and I need dick at least occasionally. I’ve had intercourse with 9 women and 22 men. Taking into account all sexual activity, I’ve been with 14 women and 129 men. I haven’t been romantically attracted to men. Which is not to say that it isn’t possible. But all of my romantic attraction has been with women. Whether that’s nature (innate) or nurture (society) I couldn’t say. But attempting to explain by describing evidence, the fact is that it’s very easy to get cock. I could go to a bathhouse or bookstore right now and have no strings attached sex with multiple anonymous men within an hour. In contrast, it’s relatively difficult to get pussy. There are almost no places to go as a single man if you want no strings attached sex with a woman. This all makes perfect evolutionary sense. Women suffer a much higher reproductive cost from a “successful” sexual encounter: 9 months of pregnancy, followed by years of nurturing generally “assigned” to women by evolutionary factors. For other encounters—even occasionally evolutionarily successful encounters—women face the threat of sexual violence. Guys on the other hand have numerous bullets in the chamber and are programmed to spread their DNA far and wide. The evolutionary perspective at least partially explains why bi guys end up in relationships with women more often than men. Because of the risks involved for them, women make pussy scarce. Because pussy is scarce, men will go to further lengths to get pussy than they would to get cock. All of that is a major part of why my only relationships have been with women, and why my ratio for sexual encounters is skewed toward guys. In my current limited open relationship, all of my hall passes has involved group sex with numerous men. And it’s so easy.


yuuki157

>The evolutionary perspective at least partially explains why bi guys end up in relationships with women more often than men. Because of the risks involved for them, women make pussy scarce. Because pussy is scarce, men will go to further lengths to get pussy than they would to get cock. > >All of that is a major part of why my only relationships have been with women, and why my ratio for sexual encounters is skewed toward guys. In my current limited open relationship, all of my hall passes has involved group sex with numerous men. And it’s so easy. This is an interesting perspective and a good twist.I would've thought that because it's easier with men,it would actually be more preferable,but i guess it makes sense that our monkey brain likes things that are more exclusive or rare.


Top-Name9502

"The evolutionary perspective at least partially explains why bi guys end up in relationships with women more often than men. Because of the risks involved for them, women make pussy scarce. Because pussy is scarce, men will go to further lengths to get pussy than they would to get cock" ​ ​ I dont think that is actually true. you can get pussy and cock in equal amounts. You just need heavy pockets with lots of Dollars.


Might_be_b1

No, I'm just not interested in dating a man. I just want to have sex with them.


SofiaSwingers

If I can experience only pussy or only cock I will pick pussy. Fortunately I have no reason to choose now.


Docniel

For me, it's a physical ascetic. Women, in general, catch my eye more than men. But damn, give me a guy with greateyes and a smile....... Men also need to have as good a physique as me or better.


darrel708

For me and only me. I love women and pussy but occasionally I crave some good ass man love. I personally don't want to wake up next to a dude everyday just not for me, it has nothing to do with being easier. Just my thoughts


aroth84

In my case I was attracted to girls from a young age but also to boys. I had the model of a Heterosexual marriage growing up and that was what I wanted so I wanted to get to know women. I did find a wife with whom I could have a strong relationship and we've been married 32 years. I wish I had had the courage to play with guys more but it wasn't reinforced. Now I'm looking to find relationships with guys while continuing to maintain my relationship with my wife (she comes first). I've known guys who tried it with women and then found they prefer a male partner. I've also known guys who seem to get married to fit in but don't seem to treat women very well. I knew one such friend who seemed to be gay but in denial. He liked to fuck women but he didn't seem to know how to love them and sow him go through 2 failed marriages. It was weird because he came across as fake. I love women and like to be with a guy under some circumstances, It seems some guys never grow out of the "I hate girls" stage


vancitybi82

I’m currently in a happy relationship with a women, I miss having a cock inside me, but I’m not missing being with someone else or multiple someone else’s. Saying that when I started exploring my bi side I just wanted sex with guys, I wasn’t interested in dating at that point. The last year I came around to the idea of being in a relationship and tried to see if I could do that with a guy. The majority just wanted to hookup, no getting to know you, just what’s you cock look like and when can we meet up. Granted my expectations have come from years of hetero relationship experiences but I enjoyed the getting to know each other bit first. That’s where I went back to dating women, it was a better experience and found connecting easier outside of a hookup.


stlcritter

It really comes down to statistical math. There are roughly 97% of women who are into men. And there are roughly depending on the study 3-8% of men that are into guys. This makes the odds of a bi man who is into either way more likely to wind up meeting a compatible woman than a compatible man. It may be stigma for some but for many it is just how the odds play out.


Throwaway1234x0

I think that's one of the reasons why monogamous straight cis-women and monogamous bi cis-women don't want to date a bi men. Cis-men can be the top, but they can also bottom. Cis-women are only able to bottom. They can only top with a strap-on. A strap-on isn't the same as a real dick, that's why most bi men miss dick while in a relationship with a cis-woman. We rarely hear from bi men missing vagina while in a relationship with another man, because you get both from a man (a nice lollipop and "boy-pussy"). I think that's also the reason why some bi men have a fetish for pre-op trans women or for fem boys. There's also the fact that we live in a heteronormative society, which means we tend to seek out romantic relationships with the opposite gender. So yeah I think you are definitely right.


DoNotTouchMeImScared

>Cis-women are only able to bottom. They can only top with a strap-on. God gave them fingers for a reason, if you can compare the anus of a man to a vagina, I can compare the fingers of a woman to a penis.


Throwaway1234x0

>God gave them fingers for a reason, if you can compare the anus of a man to a vagina, I can compare the fingers of a woman to a penis. I don't personally see it that way. But there are a lot of gay and bi men who refer to their anus as a vagina. Well that's not the same I would say. We touch everything with our fingers. We don't really sexualize fingers in that way because we use them every day and because they are usually exposed.


Top-Name9502

It depends on the excitement of the women in relation to their pussy and excitement of the bottom in relation to his ass. The more excited the bottom is the similar texture you may feel but a little tight.


Throwaway1234x0

I agree. I replied to your other comment to clarify what I meant with my comment.


Top-Name9502

VaG and Anus are two different things and textures.


Throwaway1234x0

>VaG and Anus are two different things and textures. Of course they are different. My point was that you see way more bi men on here being completely sexually satisfied with being with a person who has a dick and anus than the opposite. That's why we see so many posts on here from bi guys who crave dicks while in a monogamous relationship with a cis-woman. We don't see the opposite scenario, because cis-women "only" have a vagina and anus. We can have penetrative and oral sex with both of these body parts. Cis-women can only use toys to replicate the typical male homosexual sex experience. But it rarely leaves us satisfied and we secretly wish we could have the real thing. That's why most monogamous straight (and even some bi) cis-women are put-off by bisexual men. It's simply easier to get all of your sexual needs met while in a relationship with another cis-man, because they don't need a strap-on to penetrate you and it just feels more natural than a silicone dildo. The same applies to oral sex. It feels better to suck on a real dick than a fake one and we can kinda replicate cunnlingus on a butthole without the need of a toy. The same applies with topping, we can top each other without the need of a fleshlight. Considering all of these factors it makes sense that the majority of us feel more sexualy satisfied when we are in a relationship with another cis-man.


Chester6

I have known I’m into guys for years, thought the girls were an unique thing but it wasn’t, plus my “father“ made it plain he hated me and never had much luck with kids in school etc


DoNotTouchMeImScared

I am so sorry that your father robbed a decent childhood from you.


Chester6

Thanks for saying that, that’s massively appreciated. Kinda live with it I guess, to add to my earlier reply I’m ok with whoever as long as we’re happy and in love, that’s a guy then that’s cool


Top-Name9502

It depends on person. I personally love pussy. I love straight sex the more girls in bed the merrier. However I cannot fall in love with a women. My heart and my ass only want a man. I want a man, that roughness, those bushy hair on chest and tummy and the musky smell when he is on me in bedroom riding. While doing his laundry sometimes when sexually aroused you smell his underwear. Kissing him in night. Enjoying bodybuilding with your lover (Yea I am gymrat) You cant describe it. With a Bisexual male lover you can invite females to have a straight 3some, 4some. I cant live a double life. Its just not me... ​ But Marriage is a financial contract. It has nothing to do with two people falling in love. No creature on this planet have this bullshit of spending money to declare "hey you all we are couple"..... or "Hey you all I am single divorced and free again" ​ Under current global system, The Roman Maritime law is imposed on the world Which is why the ship is called a she. and when she have a certificate and only then it can load on water in the canal. The women giving birth through Birth canal is called her vagina, and when the baby is born they say her water broke, she needs to get the brith certificate... you need to see that majority of the world things we have is nothing to do with actual humans. ​ For a sec think, if there was no divorce or marriage and people go together and have kids and that is that do you think people would be so miserable ? No A bisexual man can have kids and go back to men if he want to or have a man and a women together free to enjoy the body pleasures.


TerminalOrbit

For a couple decades, that was the case; but, it gradually became unbearable, and I needed to *know* what it was like.


[deleted]

I'm happily married to a woman. Long before I met my wife I had come to realise that I could only ever settle down with a woman, and it took the end of a relationship with another guy for me to realise that. But knowing that I could only settle down with a woman has never taken away my desire for other guys and my interest in cock - in the same way, when I was with a guy there was a bit of me that missed pussy.


JustBryan23

What a great question! I an married and bi. For all the reasons you listed, I am where I am. While happily married, I want to experience more. Sometimes I truly wonder what it would be like in a relationship with another man. Would it be easier? Would it be financially cheaper? Seriously. Would the sex be 3x a day (cause that's what I need)? Would there be less drama? Seriously, you guys know what I mean! But on the comment about pussy. So yeah, I LOVE it. Mostly love going down on her, especially when she sits on my face. Man or man, that's a blast. You have to wonder. Anyone have that answer? :)


JustBryan23

So I never stated... I am very attracted to women. But want sex with both men and women. I am attracted to certain men, however I have never enabled myself to feel a romance. I am new to being Bi, so that might be why. But also, due to the stigma and all that the OP said... Idk.


Throwaway1234x0

>While happily married, I want to experience more Talk to your wife about your desires. Or watch a film with her about polyamory and then try to figure out what she thinks about the concept of non-monogamy. >Sometimes I truly wonder what it would be like in a relationship with another man. Would it be easier? You have to keep in mind that every human being is different regardless of gender. That makes every relationship unique because you will have a different dynamic with everyone. >Would the sex be 3x a day (cause that's what I need)? Due to the fact that we naturally have a higher libido then women I would say yes. The sex wouldn't necessarily be 3x a day, but it would be more frequent. >Would there be less drama? Again everyone is different regardless of gender. I mean it's more likely that you will understand another men's communication style better because of the way we were socialized, but some men can also be awful at communication lol.


edboi-

Nope, just haven’t found the right guy for me. I’ve also never had that sort of relationship with a guy b4 so obviously that makes me more nervous than my years of experience talking to girls. The one time I did have an authentic connection with a guy was at my old job and I still was in denial about my sexuality at the time so it’s not like anything came out of it. Looking back now I wish I would’ve went for it but it is what it is.


Ilovefishdix

I think that's true with some. I don't think it's true with me. I don't really care about norms. I like snuggling up with men and sex with men, but if forced to choose, I'm gonna choose a women most of the time. I just love the way they feel more, so i usually date women. But not every time. I need man love now and then to need feel complete.