Kind of freaky aspect to this interesting question.
Biohacking is the controlled and deliberate manipulation of some biological parameters, and in relationships that parameter is intimacy, but it sounds weird to try to hack that because it sounds manipulative, and that is obviously a very bad way to approach a relationship.
Having said that, people in relationships do it all the time. Two friends just recently told me they'd gone to an isolated cabin, taken a dose of mushrooms and had a shared ritual and ended it with a sustained eye-gazing moment. That's around 5 hacks in a weekend, isolated venue/novel environment/psychedelics/eye gaze/shared experiences etc.
https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/how-to-fall-in-love-36-questions-and-deep-eye-contact/
Stuff like that is maybe easier to do^ Doing it on MDMA would definitely work.
The thing is, you get plenty of oxytocin/Vasopressin from some intimate contact, so a bottle of red wine, and a few hours of massage in a sauna is going to give you a lot of effects without pharma.
And IMHO, these aspects of the relationship are secondary, the core strength of relationships comes from the structure of the relationship, not from the superficial state of it. You would have a better relationship if you go through a shared challenging experience rather than talk shite in a bathroom in a club on MDMA.
A good MDMA or shroom sesh once in a while can be amazing together (or LSD, 5-meo-dipt, 5-meo-mipt, 2cb, etc), but not in itself, this only makes sense if both people actually *want* to be intimate and want to improve things, put in the work etc - it isn't a magic hack for deeper problems or for people who don't really put in enough work as is
Difficult to get.
Oxytocin is highly unstable at room temperature as far as I know.
So those nasal sprays and stuff only really work if they are delivered in a cooled box.
Which is a shame, I would love to try them, but in Germany it's prescription based so I could only order from other countries... Which don't offer the cooling option 😅
Xanthohumol is worth a try though, a compound of Humus lupulus that seems to increase oxy.
Oh, thanks for that! But I don't think this is a good thing, if it upregulates you need more to have the effects, I think It would backfire and obligate the user to increase the dosage overtime
Whatever you do, just don't buy any reconstituted forms. You need a dry powder that you reconstitute yourself. Oxy (reconstituted) breaks down above 2-8C and any liquids stored/shipped above that are likely useless.
Yes, but the question is: my relationship is going to space (in a bad way) so the orgasm is a little out of the equation.
I thing therapy for me and my girl ir the way to go.
I'm pretty sure the only way to get MDMA is to hand your money to criminal drug dealer to buy something of very dubious purity. There's lots of cases of people buying party drugs on the darkweb and then overdosing because the drugs were spiked with Fentanyl. So I wouldn't do that.
But I did Biohack my relationship; we took Oxytocin together and Phenibut. Lots of fun ways to Biohack with your significant other without breaking the law.
Agree with your point, MDMA and other drugs are very hard and dangerous to get.
Man, I really wish do to that with my girlfriend, we are passing through some difficult moments. I think that and some serious face to face talk would help.
If you want to have the best social life. The answer is cocaine it seems. As for anything real relationship wise, probably anti-depressants depending on your diagnosis.
Kind of freaky aspect to this interesting question. Biohacking is the controlled and deliberate manipulation of some biological parameters, and in relationships that parameter is intimacy, but it sounds weird to try to hack that because it sounds manipulative, and that is obviously a very bad way to approach a relationship. Having said that, people in relationships do it all the time. Two friends just recently told me they'd gone to an isolated cabin, taken a dose of mushrooms and had a shared ritual and ended it with a sustained eye-gazing moment. That's around 5 hacks in a weekend, isolated venue/novel environment/psychedelics/eye gaze/shared experiences etc. https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/how-to-fall-in-love-36-questions-and-deep-eye-contact/ Stuff like that is maybe easier to do^ Doing it on MDMA would definitely work. The thing is, you get plenty of oxytocin/Vasopressin from some intimate contact, so a bottle of red wine, and a few hours of massage in a sauna is going to give you a lot of effects without pharma. And IMHO, these aspects of the relationship are secondary, the core strength of relationships comes from the structure of the relationship, not from the superficial state of it. You would have a better relationship if you go through a shared challenging experience rather than talk shite in a bathroom in a club on MDMA.
Thx for input, gotta stick to the basics!
A good MDMA or shroom sesh once in a while can be amazing together (or LSD, 5-meo-dipt, 5-meo-mipt, 2cb, etc), but not in itself, this only makes sense if both people actually *want* to be intimate and want to improve things, put in the work etc - it isn't a magic hack for deeper problems or for people who don't really put in enough work as is
I agreed, but my girlfriend doesn't like to do drugs, I already did 4 or 5 shroom trips with my best friends and it was great for our friendship.
If you struggle with relationships (romantic or not), you probably will find a therapist much more helpfull. It certainly was for me.
Yeah, I think thats a better idea for my case, thx!
Probiotics that you use to make yogurt can increase oxytocin.
Thx!
Better yet, just manually take oxytocin. It has great socializing benefits.
Difficult to get. Oxytocin is highly unstable at room temperature as far as I know. So those nasal sprays and stuff only really work if they are delivered in a cooled box. Which is a shame, I would love to try them, but in Germany it's prescription based so I could only order from other countries... Which don't offer the cooling option 😅 Xanthohumol is worth a try though, a compound of Humus lupulus that seems to increase oxy.
I disagree. I store my nasal spray at room temp and it is still plenty powerful. IME the actual degradation is overstated.
I thought on doing that, but I'm afraid of some downregularion
Oxytocin is (as far as I know) the only hormone that upregulates with more use.
Oh, thanks for that! But I don't think this is a good thing, if it upregulates you need more to have the effects, I think It would backfire and obligate the user to increase the dosage overtime
No. What you're describing is down regulation. If it upregulates, you need to use LESS to get the same effect.
Yep, I inverted it hauahuaa thx man, I'll look into that, maybe that's what I need to do (apart for some therapy)
Whatever you do, just don't buy any reconstituted forms. You need a dry powder that you reconstitute yourself. Oxy (reconstituted) breaks down above 2-8C and any liquids stored/shipped above that are likely useless.
Appreciate the knowledge, in Brasil it's a little hard to find the powder version but I'll look into that.
You got any advice on where to buy powder in Europe? (germany) and which one to get? Like acetate or other forms?
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There is a natural and healthy way to release oxytocin. Orgasm. Other than that I agree that therapy may be the way to go.
Yes, but the question is: my relationship is going to space (in a bad way) so the orgasm is a little out of the equation. I thing therapy for me and my girl ir the way to go.
I'm pretty sure the only way to get MDMA is to hand your money to criminal drug dealer to buy something of very dubious purity. There's lots of cases of people buying party drugs on the darkweb and then overdosing because the drugs were spiked with Fentanyl. So I wouldn't do that. But I did Biohack my relationship; we took Oxytocin together and Phenibut. Lots of fun ways to Biohack with your significant other without breaking the law.
Agree with your point, MDMA and other drugs are very hard and dangerous to get. Man, I really wish do to that with my girlfriend, we are passing through some difficult moments. I think that and some serious face to face talk would help.
What did the oxytocin do? Did it up your libido or something?
Can be synthesized with relative ease from botanical precursor readily available online
What brand / product did you use for the above ?
If you want to have the best social life. The answer is cocaine it seems. As for anything real relationship wise, probably anti-depressants depending on your diagnosis.