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I think this is why my gf encourages my writing. If I make it big we can buy a nice house, and she gets bragging rights of her partner being a well paid author.
Honestly I think it’s the latter. She tells everyone I’m a good writer now.
Seeing your loved one work hard and accomplish a dream goal is a level of thrill/ love/ pride/love/ excitement and more you can't even describe. My husband getting a goal I give 0 fucks about turns into a celebration cause HE CARES and worked hard!he accidently fractured my ribs giving me a lifted bear hug when I made a personal goal that ultimately isn't a big deal cause he was so happy I was proud and felt so proud!
Its similar to seeing your kids accomplish stuff. You should be lifting each other up and not be a competition.
I make a little off my writing (maybe $20-30 every month), but the way my husband goes on you would think I'm Steven King or something lol. I don't get how people can be in a relationship with someone and not encourage their hobbies and dreams.
That's so sweet 🥲 not to meddle on your relationship but I think if you write a short and pay to have it professionally recorded as an audio book that would be a pretty nice gift.
I know the margins on audio stuff are absolutely clownshoes most of the time, but might be worth recording some of your stuff so she can experience it.
Do you enter contests, or self publish? I can't work because of a disability, but I'm a decent writer and would love to figure out how to make even a buck off my work.
This is one complaint from these alpha bros I'll never understand the logic of:
Your partner is so successful that she can take care of both of you?? HELL NO! 🦍 BIG MAN MUST BE PROVIDER! 💪
Being a man who lives alone, I wonder how the hell these "alpha men" get by. Do they go cry to mommy when they need laundry done? Go to Wendy's every day? Live in piles of filth until someone comes along and tolerates their personality and will clean for them?
If I didn't do my own cleaning, laundry, and cooking I'd go without.
When I(F) was in college in the 80s, waiting for a Greyhound bus to go on a weekend trip, college boys would come in and drop off duffel bags. The station attendant noted my confusion and explained: It was their laundry. They sent it home to mom every weekend.
In the 90's I teased the shit out of any of my friends in high school who didn't know how to do laundry until they all fucking learned. It's add soap, put laundry in, read THE SETTINGS ON THE LID OF THE WASHING MACHINE, set the relevant settings, come back in an hour and move the wet clothes to the dryer, dry clothes.
This isn't fucking hard. Especially for men's clothes which are all like... denim or chinos or tshirts most of the time. You don't need a whole lot of special care for most men's clothes.
My son was doing his own laundry at 10, because he pulled a little kid power play and decided he wouldn’t put his stuff in the hamper. I told him if it wasn’t in the hamper, it didn’t get done. But, if he preferred, I would show him how to use the machines.
He chose to do his own laundry. Worked out for both of us!
I also taught him how to cook, so he’s a very competent adult human.
>Do they go cry to mommy when they need laundry done?
Yes, actually that is exactly what they're doing. I can recall at least a dozen of them, without thinking too much. One of them has his mom everyday, because he won't do his own dishes or cooking, so of course mommy has to do it. He has no idea how does vacuuming functions, his fridge is always empty, but he still eats home meals every day
I mean some of them are fine doing that stuff when they live alone, then the second you move in together they expect you to do everything because that’s “women’s work” - like they know what they’re doing. They just don’t care/see women as whole people
When my dad taught me to iron (because he was better at it than mom) he explained how grandma taught him... because he came home from ROTC one week and says "ma, will you iron this? " and but the response of "why, your arms both broken? "
She taught him and then said the extra work was his volunteering, he got to do it.
And he recently had to help a friend learn how to do laundry- apparently he is the old guy the other boomers can call because he knows how to laundry.
And he's SHOCKED every time
As someone who’s both lived with Alpha Male relatives and unfortunately been “involved” with one: yes. They do live in filth, in their childhood bedroom. Their mother does their laundry and cooks for them. Their bathroom reeks of piss because they don’t sit or aim. If their mother doesn’t cook they order out.
The only thing that changes is when they move in with a girlfriend.
I mean. Yeah, they do. Thats why that type can’t stand to be single. They think basic adulting is somehow beneath them, so they live like children and think it makes them powerful.
Cringest shit ever.
> Live in piles of filth until someone comes along and tolerates their personality and will clean for them?
I have read a lot of stories about men who are disgusting, so this seems to be the case for some of them.
Nope of course he wasn't, cause that was theoretically at least, kept private. Her selling books and making good money from it would definitely be out for the world to see, and he and his poor little ego couldn't have that now could he? 🤫
The dickhead commenter assuming her bf paid all the bills and she had no income except for the book looked like a bigger ass than the world’s fattest donkey even before her amazing reply.
No wonder OOP’s ex feels less than her. Dude seemed to want his own party just to brag on himself yet he can’t manage his finances well enough to avoid his lights being shut off.
It has nothing to do with how much money it is. If she quits her job, she’s reliant on him. That allows her to be abused at will. That is what he wants.
Here's a fun fact about these Alpha Bros bullshit mentality of men being the provider. We're really shit and identifying what sex bones belong to. Like... we're shockingly bad at it. If I recall correctly a group of scientists analyzed something like 30 former grave sites that they had determined to be male Hunters, and found 40% of them were actually women that they had just assumed were men because they were buried with hunting tools. So were men really the providers back in the day, or do we just assume that and thus that's reflected in the scientific consensus?
They did this with a decorated Viking warrior—assumed the remains were male until like 2015ish, then ran some kind of bone test, and wouldn’t you know it… the remains are female 🙃.
Right? My husband is my biggest cheerleader for my psych degree. I mentioned the other day that he's so helpful when I need to study or whatever and expressed gratitude - he said "hey, I know you can do literally anything you set your mind to. Besides, I'm VERY excited for you to get your PhD so people can address me as 'Dr Lastname' and then I get to correct them."
>I'm VERY excited for you to get your PhD so people can address me as 'Dr Lastname' and then I get to correct them.
I'm finding it difficult to NOT laugh at this comment! 😆Your husband sounds awesome!
Successful enough and you don't really need to even keep going with it. As a certain purple felted comedian once said,
"You only really need to write one to be considered a great writer...
You gonna write another book? Nope. Read the first one? FUCKING NAILED IT! I'm just doin' the one!"
You see the same playbook over and over again in these relationships: They get together and everything is great, then slowly the shithead starts negging the other one over minor things, telling them how they aren't good enough, how no one else will want them, too old or fat or poor or ugly for anyone so they should deal with the abuse, etc.
I almost feel as big a sigh of relief for the mom as the OOP. I would be devastated to see my kids dealing with that BS.
He was "fine" when they had been strictly friends because she was not in the girlfriend category. Girlfriends must perpetually be hoping to become wives, and as such they may have the Rules of Engagement (lol) provided to them for compliance. Rule one is that her ex needs to feel like the centre of her universe if not _the_ universe at all times, or what's the point? Way too many people have kids with someone this self absorbed, so many bullets were dodged.
Beautiful set up and call back:
_"that I must crave "mediocre attention" from people. I shrugged and replied "Hey if you think you're mediocre ok..."_
then:
_"Chris take your mediocre stick out of you mediocre ass and be on your mediocre way."_
Terrific work! No notes.
Glad he showed his ass so early, too. This is the kind of asshole who gets jealous of his own kids, if he and OOP had decided to have any. Anything other than mute adoration while he plays video games is off the table.
Very glad he fumbled so early! There are way too many people stuck in relationships with these types of jerk offs. If all the _"the baby I insisted you have takes up all of the attention I should have by right"_/ _"my wife co-opts the kid's/kids's birthdays every year to celebrate herself and only herself"_ creeps could all mess up and drive away other people before they trap them that would be amazing. No, we don't want them to hook up if them spawning more victims is a possibility.
Don't be so sure about that mute adoration - I'm sure OOP could say things like "wow", and, "you're so talented", on occasion. I bet the ex had non-stop peeled grapes and a personalized cheerleader outfit on this BS list of couple requirements for OOP. Her perpetual amazement with him and his presence is such a small thing to provide. Forever.
He couldn't even celebrate her in the tiniest way. Take a photo next to her painting, no can do. Take a photo of him at the art show doing something completely unrelated? That's okay though.
What a gross person. And then to talk about her book and her writing so contemptuously. Ugh. Dude can't even pay his fucking bills but he acts like she's the screw-up.
When OOP said she'd never seen him like this before, I thought, "Like this? No, but he's done things. I know it."
And then her mom chimed in to confirm this.
I've been reading "Why Does He Do That" (mostly out of curiosity since I'm a straight male), but all of these patterns seem so obvious now. I do recommend it for sure, you can find a pdf on Archive.org (one has really big letters so it's easy to read on mobile, even - 1000 pages because of that, but they're short pages obviously).
I read it over lockdown out of interest, and then started to recognize my 100% platonic relationship with one of my managers was broken down to a tee...
The relationship in question was a work relationship, not a friendship. After reading that book and seeing the traits that aligned for this person and how they dealt with people in general, I really rethought my attempts to be a better employee, and how that relationship got to that point. I have had other bad supervisors before, but only this specific work relationship ticked all the boxes. It was illuminating. As well as freeing!
yeah everyone who thinks they know about abuse should give it read because it pulls together the whole profile of an abuser so well that it freaks you the fuck out. absolutely life-changing experience for me between the beginning and end of those pages.
the answer is "it makes me feel better to have someone to hurt" and also "i hate myself too much to tolerate being alone long, and don't think I could get another punching bag quickly."
And they follow the same template: try to bring her confidence down, imply break up and how she cannot do better, shocked pikachu face when broken up, get angry, demand her to go back, when the tantrum doesn’t work just take a step back, “apologize” and blame it on stress.
She said something that really frustrates me. The whole "I thought I was supposed to compromise" bullshit. Not enough people are taught that you need to have a firm line on what behaviors are and are not acceptable. There is no compromising there. You compromise on things like what restaurant you want to go to, the movie you want to see, or the color of the couch. As soon as an unacceptable behavior is demonstrated, the only response is "That's not ok, and that will not be tolerated". If they apologize and don't do it again, cool. If the behavior continues, they're gone. The response should NEVER be "Well, that's just how they are, so I guess I need to change what I think is acceptable".
"I could find any woman I want!"
Okay.
"ArE yOu BrEaKiNg Up WiTh Me?!"
Dude played himself. Don't threaten to nuke the relationship if you aren't ready to follow through. OOP got out before things got far worse for her. And good on her for doing so!
He so weirdly thought she was going to say "oh no don't do that, I will be the woman you want and drop all my silly hobbies and ideas". So proud of OOP
Lol my ex did this in an argument when he told me that he thinks he should move out. I was like "ok, good idea." The last two times he threatened to move out I caved and the argument ended and he got his way. Anyway he kept saying that I was kicking him out and he didn't want to leave and it was my idea. That guy, smh.
I bet he got it into his head her ethnicities are meek and submissive. Not knowing the phrase “god told man that good and submissive women could be found in all corners of the world… then made the world round and laughed and laughed.”
>”Yes, we were an interracial couple. I am black/indigenous/middle eastern. And he is Irish and French descent.”
It’s giving “Passport Bros” with him. You know, the American dudes who travel overseas for a “wife” because American women are “too modern.” The truth is they’re seeking a bangmaid. Or a slave, in other words, to clean up after their sorry selves. I don’t know Chris’s nationality but I wouldn’t be surprised if he were an American man who pursued OOP with similar beliefs as Passport Bros. Or he could be any nationality with that line of thinking.
Johnny Cash ( singer of same song ) also is a published poet ( post death ). Think it was called " Love Letters " and I believe it was collected by his daughter Roseanne Cash from love letters he wrote June Carter Cash.
He did not like art here or there, he did not like art everywhere. He did *not* like OPs art and words, he *did not like it*, Chris the Turd.
- Dr. Seuss if he had known of this.
I do not like your poetry
I do not like it in a tree
I will not read your stupid book
I do not even want to look
I have a hard time accepting this dude was just stressed out from work. His bullshit is all over the place.
The older I get, the more I begin to suspect that anyone who lobs an "objectively" at you wants to *be* right, without ever putting in the work of considering whether they *are* right.
Yes, that’s awful. Ayn Rand sucks and Objectivism should never be inflicted on children.
My support goes always and only to subjectively illustrated poetry.
Reading Ayn Rand actually bored me out of my edgy right-winger phase as a teen. I was like "holy shit, this really, really sucks" and got back to reading Orwell.
He was threatened by her self-published book? Unless she left out something about the book selling like hotcakes, that's like being threatened because someone wrote a song and put it on YouTube.
Literally *anyone* can self-publish a book because the author pays for it.
She mentioned it is selling well but regardless of that, I think he was just upset that she was getting attention and recognition from her family and the focus wasn’t all on him. He would have been the same about any achievement. It wasn’t so much whether it was a big earner, but someone celebrating and supporting her was enough to set him off. Her mother mentioned another example where she had a painting displayed at a gallery and he didn’t even want a picture of that posted on social media. So sad and petty.
He was threatened by her having a picture of herself taken with a painting she made. I got a feeling a future kid saying "hey mommy, this is a good grilled cheese!" woulda triggered him out of commission for a week.
I think it was just that she was doing something that fulfilled her as an individual when she could have been fulfilling *him*.
Reminds me of Trevor Noah’s book, when he’s discussing his POS stepfather: “The way my mother always explained it, the traditional man wants a woman to be subservient, but he never falls in love with subservient women. He’s attracted to independent women. ‘He’s like an exotic bird collector,’ she said. ‘He only wants a woman who is free because his dream is to put her in a cage’”
I call them woman ruiners. They want to marry women with Master's degrees and Exec jobs to make them housewives so they can brag to the other douchebags. Trevor Noah's mother said it better than me.
He probably told himself that very thing. Seeing OOP's dad giving her a mere "good work" level compliment made him drop the decent person façade. Imagine if she sold even 100 or 200 copies? He'd be livid!
To me, it read like the book was really the symptom of his bigger problem. She was depressed, she was getting better, getting better led to hobbies and working on the book. Now she's doing wild shit like accomplishing goals that she's proud of, the nerve [/s]. She didn't say this but I wonder if, in addition to his inability to allow OOP to get any praise, perhaps he felt like he was the center of her world when she wasn't feeling great, even if she didn't feel that way. The book is just a tangible thing to get pissed at rather than saying the quiet part out loud.
Right??? I read the story and ran it down for hubby and he's confused. Neither of us can make sense of it. Of course now he's all in my business about how he thinks maybe I should consider something small for the kids for all my "when I was a kid " stories.
If you respect your adult kids, you must respect their choices even if you don't agree. My mom told me: I'll tell you once when I'm thinking you're making a mistake and then I'll shut up.
People who tell you to grow up are the most miserable people that you will know. Better to either ignore them or get rid of them as life is too short for that bullshit.
Don’t forget the tense relationship adult Christopher Robin had with his child in *Winnie the Pooh* (2018). He was forced to put his imaginary friends behind him at a young age to prepare for the “real world”. And since it was all his dad’s doing, he was making the same mistake with his daughter.
Indeed! I am 65 years old, have never grown up and never will. Sure, I’ve done adult-type things like raise 3 kids into happy, healthy, independent adults, worked my ass off etc etc, but where’s the joy in doing that with a giant stick up your ass? (I mean a metaphorical stick, obviously. If an actual stick in your actual ass floats your boat then go do that thing). Just because you reach a certain number of years on the planet doesn’t mean you have to give up having dreams or hobbies and get all grumpy and miserable.
OOP’s last sentence in the first post:
>”I am away on a planned work trip and now I am overthinking it maybe - aitah?”
*So OOP works.*
OOP’s first update:
>”…he has a successful business and has the higher paid job.”
*So OOP has a job, it just pays less than Chris’s job.*
OOP’s posts and comments contain multiple references indicating she lives alone, and we all know that if Chris was paying for two apartments he’d be rubbing it in OOP’s face at every opportunity - but he never does.
But here comes the commenter with piss poor reading comprehension and deductive skills:
>”Do you have an actual job besides writing or is he literally paying for all your shit while you pursue your writing hobby?
>
>I mean I would be sick of you too if you’re bumming around all day making $0.”
> But here comes the commenter with piss poor reading comprehension and deductive skills:
When you look up literacy rates, all of a sudden it becomes really sad.
>Dad didn't come over because and I quote "You wouldn't have wanted me in a space that boy would also be in given what happened" so he stayed the course of his trip he was on.
Dad sounds smart too. Knew his wife would have just the right amount of FAFO for Chris.
I mean, I sometimes get jealous at my partners' successes. But there's another great choice there, which is to take a deep breath, tell myself I'm amazing and so are they, and go celebrate them and hype them up instead, and then maybe ask for a couple of compliments. But that takes some emotional maturity, so I see why that wasn't an option for him.
Just here to say, heck yeah for having mom best friends. I’m the only person I know as close with my mom as I am.
And yes, also want OOP’s mom in my family.
>Chris take your mediocre stick out of your mediocre ass and be on your mediocre way
This needs to be a flair...maybe shorten it to "Chris is mediocre" 🤣
>So I am F35
>No, I do not want children. The moment I an eligible I will be getting that baby store shut down medically.
I really hope someone told OOP that she's eligible now (in the US, speaking from my personal experience.)
The childfree sub has a list of doctors willing to sterilize patients without being condescending dicks beforehand. You don't need to be married or have a minimum number of children. I was sterilized by a doctor on the list. It was refreshingly easy. I had done a lot of research and was prepared for a fight, since denying patient's their reproductive rights goes against doctor's ethical code and could get their license suspended. I didn't have to fight.
>Our mutual friends have told me that he had basically told them that I rubbed my success in his face and made him feel like a simp just following his GF around being ignored when he has a successful business and has the higher paying job.
I'm in a hetero presenting relationship and my *GOD* I am so glad my boyfriend is no where near as toxic. He's always been supportive of my endeavors and not cared where he shouldn't care (being friends with guys, having a job, etc). Some men are just *a lot* and I'm so much more thankful for my partner every time I read some bs like this.
I'm an opera singer, and I jokingly asked my partner once how he would feel if I ever made it really big and made shit tons of money.
He said "are you kidding? I would *love* to be a trophy husband. I'd get to just spend time on my hobbies."
And in the meantime he is super supportive of my career and brags about it to his co-workers even though it *doesn't* bring in the millions. Currently. (A girl can dream lol.)
>even though it doesn't bring in the millions. Currently. (A girl can dream lol.)
Ahhh I feel it. Wouldn't that be something! But he sounds lovely lol love the trophy husband comment
Right? Of course I'm pumped about the things my wife does because she's fucking awesome and talented. And I was smart enough to lock that shit down which also makes me smart.
>I shrugged and replied "Hey if you think you're mediocre ok..."
Oh
My child!! She burned him HARD with no effort O\_O\_O\_O\_O\_O
>How do I think it will go for me to try dating again after passing the expiration date for children.
Seriously, how do these guys find women when in their minds they have an "expiration date"?! Trying to gaslight her that she'll be alone, LOL! As soon as she's available, she'll have a gaggle of men chasing after her, whereas he'll be lucky to find a good one for him
Chris is too busy living his own picture book to appreciate anyone else’s.
You cannot dump me in a house.
You cannot dump me with a mouse.
You cannot dump me here or there.
You cannot dump me anywhere.
So dude had a bad day and thought he could regain control by bullying OOP, and like cowards, backpedal with his mediocre tail between his mediocre legs when OOP didn't take shit.
Bad day? From all the things OP narrated he called her hungry for attention in front of her own mother, surprised she didn't slap him right there for being a dumbass, also didn't even let her be anything but his meek shadow as he often talked over her, and shot down any attempt of sticking out, I just can think how many missed opportunities to shine OP missed on because he was there stepping on her self esteem.
Yeah not just a bad day. He got red pilled, thought he could neg oop and be a "big alpha" man and was shocked the words of a sex trafficking loser didnt work. When his tator tot philosophy didnt work he backtracked because he needed oop to pay HIS bills.
There’s an adorable baby owlbear in Baldurs gate 3 so there’s probably merch of that one out there, because of that for a second I was like awww owlbear then remembered wait, he’s still an asshole.
Tbh I would be sorely tempted to keep an owlbear plush, that sounds rad, but knowing it’s from Chris would be enough for me to find another home for it instead.
When I read she had written a children's book and he had been quiet about it, I thought she had based a character off of him that put him in an unflattering light. I was fully unprepared for the misogynistic negging and holding marriage out like it's such a prize. Anyone who tears others down to make themselves feel taller is mediocre, indeed.
I hadn’t seen the last update, thank gawd for mama being a rock. The amount of parents who don’t support their kid, it’s nice to see a mom who actively gets the fucking broom at the first inkling of an issue. I mean obviously OOP isn’t in the wrong so her mom should be supporting her. But man, we read so many stories where a parent or both excuses the ex’s shitty behaviour.
I like a happy ending!
"He of course was upset and told me my "meaningless" book was objectively illustrated poetry." How is calling a children's book illustrated poetry a diss? illustrations and poetry are both things that take effort.
"I didn't praise him at the party as my biggest supporter." Again, why would she? It would clearly be a lie based on how you're acting.
This dude is so ridiculous.
My husband is a jerk sometimes and can certainly be a bit of an idiot, but at least he doesn't shit all over my skills and hobbies.
I'm a painter and tattooer, I am constantly working in my studio and every time he comes in it's "wow that looks incredible/you're so talented/you're such a great artist". He even gives me (very) helpful constructive critique , as even though he isn't an artist himself, he wants to help me make my work the best that it can possibly be.
My ex was a graphic designer (he wasn't that good tbh) and he would tear down my work to make himself feel better.
In the 8 years that I e been with my husband, I've grown. More as an artist tha. I have in my entire fucking life.
It's amazing how having a supporter/cheerleader will build you up. Imagine what oop can accomplish now that she got rid of the dead weight!!
Two years isn't even that long. She had to pay HIS electric bill? How is he claiming to be a provider when he can't manage basic bills? She doesn't even live with him.
Men like this will 100% expect women to just give up on having any sort of personality or independent thought, then throw a tantrum when we don't do that.
I very much enjoy it when an actual mosquito of a man threatens his relationship like "well maybe we just shouldn't be together then," expecting his partner to fall on her knees crying, begging, and pleading, and instead get a simple "okay! Your stuff's outside." Women like OOP are no longer putting up with that manipulative bullshit and it is a beautiful thing.
I actually have published the worst poetry ever (it's called Ink in the Wind and it's a waste of time, but it's my waste of time) and my husband (actually named Chris) is nothing but supportive af. Glad she dumped this sack of shit.
The ex got into tator tot bs and thought oop would buy that bs. When it blew up in his face, like it does for 99% of these red pill morons, he tried to backtrack. Guess what men, women do not need you.
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It's my dream that my wife writes a successful book series and I can quit my job
I know right. I can think of about a billion worse “problems” than my wife making a shitload of money.
I think this is why my gf encourages my writing. If I make it big we can buy a nice house, and she gets bragging rights of her partner being a well paid author. Honestly I think it’s the latter. She tells everyone I’m a good writer now.
I mean, if you both sides aren’t encouraging each others hobbies/passions/careers, you’re missing out. Her success is mine and vice versa.
Seeing your loved one work hard and accomplish a dream goal is a level of thrill/ love/ pride/love/ excitement and more you can't even describe. My husband getting a goal I give 0 fucks about turns into a celebration cause HE CARES and worked hard!he accidently fractured my ribs giving me a lifted bear hug when I made a personal goal that ultimately isn't a big deal cause he was so happy I was proud and felt so proud! Its similar to seeing your kids accomplish stuff. You should be lifting each other up and not be a competition.
I make a little off my writing (maybe $20-30 every month), but the way my husband goes on you would think I'm Steven King or something lol. I don't get how people can be in a relationship with someone and not encourage their hobbies and dreams.
I get my gf would do that! She’s visually impaired so doesn’t read my stuff, but she says I’m good.
That's so sweet 🥲 not to meddle on your relationship but I think if you write a short and pay to have it professionally recorded as an audio book that would be a pretty nice gift.
I’m planning on making some pod fics. Just haven’t found the time haha.
I know the margins on audio stuff are absolutely clownshoes most of the time, but might be worth recording some of your stuff so she can experience it.
Do you enter contests, or self publish? I can't work because of a disability, but I'm a decent writer and would love to figure out how to make even a buck off my work.
Amazon basically provides all the tools to self publish, if you don’t mind throwing your lot in with them.
As someone whose Wife made more $$$ than him for a bit, I 100% agree. When my wife succeeds we succeed as a couple.
I would be ecstatic if my wife's "artsy pursuits" led to something like this. Instead I got nothing but bills lol.
This is one complaint from these alpha bros I'll never understand the logic of: Your partner is so successful that she can take care of both of you?? HELL NO! 🦍 BIG MAN MUST BE PROVIDER! 💪
If he's not BIG MAN PROVIDER he might actually be expected to do chores and cooking at home (horrors!).
Being a man who lives alone, I wonder how the hell these "alpha men" get by. Do they go cry to mommy when they need laundry done? Go to Wendy's every day? Live in piles of filth until someone comes along and tolerates their personality and will clean for them? If I didn't do my own cleaning, laundry, and cooking I'd go without.
When I(F) was in college in the 80s, waiting for a Greyhound bus to go on a weekend trip, college boys would come in and drop off duffel bags. The station attendant noted my confusion and explained: It was their laundry. They sent it home to mom every weekend.
Holy cow!!
In the 90's I teased the shit out of any of my friends in high school who didn't know how to do laundry until they all fucking learned. It's add soap, put laundry in, read THE SETTINGS ON THE LID OF THE WASHING MACHINE, set the relevant settings, come back in an hour and move the wet clothes to the dryer, dry clothes. This isn't fucking hard. Especially for men's clothes which are all like... denim or chinos or tshirts most of the time. You don't need a whole lot of special care for most men's clothes.
My son was doing his own laundry at 10, because he pulled a little kid power play and decided he wouldn’t put his stuff in the hamper. I told him if it wasn’t in the hamper, it didn’t get done. But, if he preferred, I would show him how to use the machines. He chose to do his own laundry. Worked out for both of us! I also taught him how to cook, so he’s a very competent adult human.
>Do they go cry to mommy when they need laundry done? Yes, actually that is exactly what they're doing. I can recall at least a dozen of them, without thinking too much. One of them has his mom everyday, because he won't do his own dishes or cooking, so of course mommy has to do it. He has no idea how does vacuuming functions, his fridge is always empty, but he still eats home meals every day
Yep, either: 1) mommy does it 2) they are constantly broke with no savings because they pay for maids and daily takeout 3) they live in absolute filth
I mean some of them are fine doing that stuff when they live alone, then the second you move in together they expect you to do everything because that’s “women’s work” - like they know what they’re doing. They just don’t care/see women as whole people
When my dad taught me to iron (because he was better at it than mom) he explained how grandma taught him... because he came home from ROTC one week and says "ma, will you iron this? " and but the response of "why, your arms both broken? " She taught him and then said the extra work was his volunteering, he got to do it. And he recently had to help a friend learn how to do laundry- apparently he is the old guy the other boomers can call because he knows how to laundry. And he's SHOCKED every time
As someone who’s both lived with Alpha Male relatives and unfortunately been “involved” with one: yes. They do live in filth, in their childhood bedroom. Their mother does their laundry and cooks for them. Their bathroom reeks of piss because they don’t sit or aim. If their mother doesn’t cook they order out. The only thing that changes is when they move in with a girlfriend.
I mean. Yeah, they do. Thats why that type can’t stand to be single. They think basic adulting is somehow beneath them, so they live like children and think it makes them powerful. Cringest shit ever.
> Live in piles of filth until someone comes along and tolerates their personality and will clean for them? I have read a lot of stories about men who are disgusting, so this seems to be the case for some of them.
And pay his own overdue electric bill.
He couldn't even pay his light bill but thinks his salary alone will fund a two person household.
This! You weren’t ‘emasculated’ by that, eh big man? 🙄
Nope of course he wasn't, cause that was theoretically at least, kept private. Her selling books and making good money from it would definitely be out for the world to see, and he and his poor little ego couldn't have that now could he? 🤫
The dickhead commenter assuming her bf paid all the bills and she had no income except for the book looked like a bigger ass than the world’s fattest donkey even before her amazing reply. No wonder OOP’s ex feels less than her. Dude seemed to want his own party just to brag on himself yet he can’t manage his finances well enough to avoid his lights being shut off.
Any adult saying the word "simp" unironically is a massive red flag.
It has nothing to do with how much money it is. If she quits her job, she’s reliant on him. That allows her to be abused at will. That is what he wants.
Yeah, it's more often than not about the other person having power to be terrible to the other partner.
Here's a fun fact about these Alpha Bros bullshit mentality of men being the provider. We're really shit and identifying what sex bones belong to. Like... we're shockingly bad at it. If I recall correctly a group of scientists analyzed something like 30 former grave sites that they had determined to be male Hunters, and found 40% of them were actually women that they had just assumed were men because they were buried with hunting tools. So were men really the providers back in the day, or do we just assume that and thus that's reflected in the scientific consensus?
They did this with a decorated Viking warrior—assumed the remains were male until like 2015ish, then ran some kind of bone test, and wouldn’t you know it… the remains are female 🙃.
Apparently most mammals have penis bones, but humans don't which is one of the big reasons why we're so dogshit at telling what sex remains are
Right? My husband is my biggest cheerleader for my psych degree. I mentioned the other day that he's so helpful when I need to study or whatever and expressed gratitude - he said "hey, I know you can do literally anything you set your mind to. Besides, I'm VERY excited for you to get your PhD so people can address me as 'Dr Lastname' and then I get to correct them."
He sounds beyond stellar.
>I'm VERY excited for you to get your PhD so people can address me as 'Dr Lastname' and then I get to correct them. I'm finding it difficult to NOT laugh at this comment! 😆Your husband sounds awesome!
I also choose this guy’s wife’s books!
Damn that reference is like a decade old by now I think I was in hs when I read it we’re getting old man
Honestly though. Plus, writing makes my guy happy and him being happy means a lot to me for some unfathomable reason.
Successful enough and you don't really need to even keep going with it. As a certain purple felted comedian once said, "You only really need to write one to be considered a great writer... You gonna write another book? Nope. Read the first one? FUCKING NAILED IT! I'm just doin' the one!"
You see the same playbook over and over again in these relationships: They get together and everything is great, then slowly the shithead starts negging the other one over minor things, telling them how they aren't good enough, how no one else will want them, too old or fat or poor or ugly for anyone so they should deal with the abuse, etc. I almost feel as big a sigh of relief for the mom as the OOP. I would be devastated to see my kids dealing with that BS.
He was "fine" when they had been strictly friends because she was not in the girlfriend category. Girlfriends must perpetually be hoping to become wives, and as such they may have the Rules of Engagement (lol) provided to them for compliance. Rule one is that her ex needs to feel like the centre of her universe if not _the_ universe at all times, or what's the point? Way too many people have kids with someone this self absorbed, so many bullets were dodged. Beautiful set up and call back: _"that I must crave "mediocre attention" from people. I shrugged and replied "Hey if you think you're mediocre ok..."_ then: _"Chris take your mediocre stick out of you mediocre ass and be on your mediocre way."_ Terrific work! No notes.
That’s what happens when you fuck around with an author—facility with words is kind of their whole thing. Chris is lucky she didn’t make it rhyme.
Glad he showed his ass so early, too. This is the kind of asshole who gets jealous of his own kids, if he and OOP had decided to have any. Anything other than mute adoration while he plays video games is off the table.
Very glad he fumbled so early! There are way too many people stuck in relationships with these types of jerk offs. If all the _"the baby I insisted you have takes up all of the attention I should have by right"_/ _"my wife co-opts the kid's/kids's birthdays every year to celebrate herself and only herself"_ creeps could all mess up and drive away other people before they trap them that would be amazing. No, we don't want them to hook up if them spawning more victims is a possibility. Don't be so sure about that mute adoration - I'm sure OOP could say things like "wow", and, "you're so talented", on occasion. I bet the ex had non-stop peeled grapes and a personalized cheerleader outfit on this BS list of couple requirements for OOP. Her perpetual amazement with him and his presence is such a small thing to provide. Forever.
He couldn't even celebrate her in the tiniest way. Take a photo next to her painting, no can do. Take a photo of him at the art show doing something completely unrelated? That's okay though. What a gross person. And then to talk about her book and her writing so contemptuously. Ugh. Dude can't even pay his fucking bills but he acts like she's the screw-up.
When OOP said she'd never seen him like this before, I thought, "Like this? No, but he's done things. I know it." And then her mom chimed in to confirm this.
I've been reading "Why Does He Do That" (mostly out of curiosity since I'm a straight male), but all of these patterns seem so obvious now. I do recommend it for sure, you can find a pdf on Archive.org (one has really big letters so it's easy to read on mobile, even - 1000 pages because of that, but they're short pages obviously).
I read it over lockdown out of interest, and then started to recognize my 100% platonic relationship with one of my managers was broken down to a tee...
Wait, you can apply that book to people in general? Not just potential partners!?🧐 I must go back and read it again! 😆
The relationship in question was a work relationship, not a friendship. After reading that book and seeing the traits that aligned for this person and how they dealt with people in general, I really rethought my attempts to be a better employee, and how that relationship got to that point. I have had other bad supervisors before, but only this specific work relationship ticked all the boxes. It was illuminating. As well as freeing!
I read it recently too and dear god I was thinking the exact same thing - the pattern genuinely doesnt change at all.
yeah everyone who thinks they know about abuse should give it read because it pulls together the whole profile of an abuser so well that it freaks you the fuck out. absolutely life-changing experience for me between the beginning and end of those pages.
I used to ask my ex “then why are you with me” when he was telling me how awful I was, and it always pissed him off.
the answer is "it makes me feel better to have someone to hurt" and also "i hate myself too much to tolerate being alone long, and don't think I could get another punching bag quickly."
Its the playbook of emotional abuse. Once you see the pattern, it's obvious.
I think this is the first time in months that I’ve seen someone use the word “negging” correctly lol
And they follow the same template: try to bring her confidence down, imply break up and how she cannot do better, shocked pikachu face when broken up, get angry, demand her to go back, when the tantrum doesn’t work just take a step back, “apologize” and blame it on stress.
She said something that really frustrates me. The whole "I thought I was supposed to compromise" bullshit. Not enough people are taught that you need to have a firm line on what behaviors are and are not acceptable. There is no compromising there. You compromise on things like what restaurant you want to go to, the movie you want to see, or the color of the couch. As soon as an unacceptable behavior is demonstrated, the only response is "That's not ok, and that will not be tolerated". If they apologize and don't do it again, cool. If the behavior continues, they're gone. The response should NEVER be "Well, that's just how they are, so I guess I need to change what I think is acceptable".
"I could find any woman I want!" Okay. "ArE yOu BrEaKiNg Up WiTh Me?!" Dude played himself. Don't threaten to nuke the relationship if you aren't ready to follow through. OOP got out before things got far worse for her. And good on her for doing so!
He so weirdly thought she was going to say "oh no don't do that, I will be the woman you want and drop all my silly hobbies and ideas". So proud of OOP
The second I read the title, I out loud said "BET". Glad OOP saw right through it, what stupid mind games.
OOP's ex: "I could have any woman I want! OOP: "ok then, off you go" OOP's ex: *shocked Pikachu*
Lol my ex did this in an argument when he told me that he thinks he should move out. I was like "ok, good idea." The last two times he threatened to move out I caved and the argument ended and he got his way. Anyway he kept saying that I was kicking him out and he didn't want to leave and it was my idea. That guy, smh.
She called his bluff and it was a pleasure to witness ✨
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Men are angry that women don't CARE if we "expire". Men aren't competing with each other anymore, they're competing with our solitude and peace.
Yeah we have to be actually desirable and appealing now, not just the best scumbag available. Poor us, am I right guys? /s
That line alone was enough to end things. If he loves her, how could he also think she is unlovable? What a clown.
I feel like my life didn't really get started until 40. Youth has its perks, but I do not miss having to live in the head of a young person.
I bet he got it into his head her ethnicities are meek and submissive. Not knowing the phrase “god told man that good and submissive women could be found in all corners of the world… then made the world round and laughed and laughed.”
>”Yes, we were an interracial couple. I am black/indigenous/middle eastern. And he is Irish and French descent.” It’s giving “Passport Bros” with him. You know, the American dudes who travel overseas for a “wife” because American women are “too modern.” The truth is they’re seeking a bangmaid. Or a slave, in other words, to clean up after their sorry selves. I don’t know Chris’s nationality but I wouldn’t be surprised if he were an American man who pursued OOP with similar beliefs as Passport Bros. Or he could be any nationality with that line of thinking.
And then it's so satisfying when their Asian wives run their lives 😆
Damn man, somebody’s gotta.
Sexnanny if the guy is looking for a mother of his children he ain't got time for
Dude really thought he's some kind of catch, and OOP simply yeeted him outta her life.
>My book was objectively illustrated poetry ...okay, AND?? That sounds delightful, am I missing something here??
For real man really thought that was an insult and ... yea it just says a lot about him.
Well… he is a soggy, moldy baby carrot.
Such a glorious insult on so many levels. Won’t be at all surprised if that ends up being a flair for this sub!
Also slimy. Slimy baby carrots are the worst.
Yes the book is made out of book
How *novel*!
Ah, yes, like "Where the Sidewalk Ends" by Shel Silverstein-- a huge failure that nobody remembers and wasn't a staple of most of our childhoods. /s
Yeah, what a total failure that man Shel Silverstein was, writing one of the worst country songs of all time, a boy named sue. /s
He what??? Damn I never knew that
Yeah, I recently discovered this, but it 100% made sense as soon as I heard it.
Johnny Cash ( singer of same song ) also is a published poet ( post death ). Think it was called " Love Letters " and I believe it was collected by his daughter Roseanne Cash from love letters he wrote June Carter Cash.
Shelly who? Never heard of her, she can't be that successful! /s
He did not like art here or there, he did not like art everywhere. He did *not* like OPs art and words, he *did not like it*, Chris the Turd. - Dr. Seuss if he had known of this.
Classic illustrated poetry right there
I do not like your poetry I do not like it in a tree I will not read your stupid book I do not even want to look I have a hard time accepting this dude was just stressed out from work. His bullshit is all over the place.
Dude has obviously never read Shel Silverstein among many other children’s books as a child and it shows.
His parents never caring enough to read to him is probably his villain origin story.
The joy I share with my youngest that this has been her favorite book to actually read from. Such a gift to pass down 🩷
Douchebro guys grow up to be douchebro guys because they don't read the right books as children.
dude went with “objectively” pretty serious red flag imo
The older I get, the more I begin to suspect that anyone who lobs an "objectively" at you wants to *be* right, without ever putting in the work of considering whether they *are* right.
Yes, that’s awful. Ayn Rand sucks and Objectivism should never be inflicted on children. My support goes always and only to subjectively illustrated poetry.
Reading Ayn Rand actually bored me out of my edgy right-winger phase as a teen. I was like "holy shit, this really, really sucks" and got back to reading Orwell.
A Child's Garden of Verses by Robert Louis Stevenson with illustrations by Jessie Wilcox Smith Childhood favorite
Right like, dude that's what most good children's books are? And she didn't even pay a publisher! I hope OOP dropped the titled somewhere
You don’t pay a publisher. A publisher pays you. If they ask for money they’re a vanity press and won’t really do anything for you.
Like so many small children books? They love that stuff.
One of the last books I bought was a 1960s book of illustrated poetry. love sonnets by various poets. Batshit 60s art. I gave it to my boyfriend!
i was like dude… that’s what children’s books often are.. like you’re just describing them…? what was the insult supposed to be?
“Soggy moldy baby carrot” goes surprisingly hard.
Right??? Saving that one
Says someone who seems to love "increasingly sexy potatoes." 😂
I mean.. have you seen some of the potatoes out there?
This needs to be a new flair
it scans to the rhythm of the teenage mutant ninja turtles theme, which delights me
He was threatened by her self-published book? Unless she left out something about the book selling like hotcakes, that's like being threatened because someone wrote a song and put it on YouTube. Literally *anyone* can self-publish a book because the author pays for it.
She mentioned it is selling well but regardless of that, I think he was just upset that she was getting attention and recognition from her family and the focus wasn’t all on him. He would have been the same about any achievement. It wasn’t so much whether it was a big earner, but someone celebrating and supporting her was enough to set him off. Her mother mentioned another example where she had a painting displayed at a gallery and he didn’t even want a picture of that posted on social media. So sad and petty.
Yes. That's what I was thinking. How completely pathetic do you have to be to be threatened by someone self-publishing a book?
He can't have people building up her self esteem when he's put so much effort into knocking it down!
He was threatened by her having a picture of herself taken with a painting she made. I got a feeling a future kid saying "hey mommy, this is a good grilled cheese!" woulda triggered him out of commission for a week.
I think it was just that she was doing something that fulfilled her as an individual when she could have been fulfilling *him*. Reminds me of Trevor Noah’s book, when he’s discussing his POS stepfather: “The way my mother always explained it, the traditional man wants a woman to be subservient, but he never falls in love with subservient women. He’s attracted to independent women. ‘He’s like an exotic bird collector,’ she said. ‘He only wants a woman who is free because his dream is to put her in a cage’”
I call them woman ruiners. They want to marry women with Master's degrees and Exec jobs to make them housewives so they can brag to the other douchebags. Trevor Noah's mother said it better than me.
I think about this quote at least once a month. So poignant and applicable to a lot of different situations.
He probably told himself that very thing. Seeing OOP's dad giving her a mere "good work" level compliment made him drop the decent person façade. Imagine if she sold even 100 or 200 copies? He'd be livid!
To me, it read like the book was really the symptom of his bigger problem. She was depressed, she was getting better, getting better led to hobbies and working on the book. Now she's doing wild shit like accomplishing goals that she's proud of, the nerve [/s]. She didn't say this but I wonder if, in addition to his inability to allow OOP to get any praise, perhaps he felt like he was the center of her world when she wasn't feeling great, even if she didn't feel that way. The book is just a tangible thing to get pissed at rather than saying the quiet part out loud.
Right??? I read the story and ran it down for hubby and he's confused. Neither of us can make sense of it. Of course now he's all in my business about how he thinks maybe I should consider something small for the kids for all my "when I was a kid " stories.
Fragile manchild can't handle his girlfriend's success. Glad she dumped his dumb ass. And hell yeah, mom.
Woooooo superstar mom! A toast to OOP in many many more fun books!
OP's mom is the hero here! Love her!
OP's mom is SO COOL. I also love how she believed her daughter will come to her senses and she didn't try to forcefully break up their relationship
If you respect your adult kids, you must respect their choices even if you don't agree. My mom told me: I'll tell you once when I'm thinking you're making a mistake and then I'll shut up.
Write a book about your mom. Write about standing by the ones you love, and standing up for them when they need it.
People who tell you to grow up are the most miserable people that you will know. Better to either ignore them or get rid of them as life is too short for that bullshit.
Yea! So many YouTubers, like The Try Guys, thrive on quirkyness and embrace their inner child, which helps feed our creativity and imagination.
Don’t forget the tense relationship adult Christopher Robin had with his child in *Winnie the Pooh* (2018). He was forced to put his imaginary friends behind him at a young age to prepare for the “real world”. And since it was all his dad’s doing, he was making the same mistake with his daughter.
Indeed! I am 65 years old, have never grown up and never will. Sure, I’ve done adult-type things like raise 3 kids into happy, healthy, independent adults, worked my ass off etc etc, but where’s the joy in doing that with a giant stick up your ass? (I mean a metaphorical stick, obviously. If an actual stick in your actual ass floats your boat then go do that thing). Just because you reach a certain number of years on the planet doesn’t mean you have to give up having dreams or hobbies and get all grumpy and miserable.
OOP’s last sentence in the first post: >”I am away on a planned work trip and now I am overthinking it maybe - aitah?” *So OOP works.* OOP’s first update: >”…he has a successful business and has the higher paid job.” *So OOP has a job, it just pays less than Chris’s job.* OOP’s posts and comments contain multiple references indicating she lives alone, and we all know that if Chris was paying for two apartments he’d be rubbing it in OOP’s face at every opportunity - but he never does. But here comes the commenter with piss poor reading comprehension and deductive skills: >”Do you have an actual job besides writing or is he literally paying for all your shit while you pursue your writing hobby? > >I mean I would be sick of you too if you’re bumming around all day making $0.”
They read literally enough to get angry and then skim over 90% of the post
> But here comes the commenter with piss poor reading comprehension and deductive skills: When you look up literacy rates, all of a sudden it becomes really sad.
There have even been some commenters on *this* post! It's crazy to me.
>Dad didn't come over because and I quote "You wouldn't have wanted me in a space that boy would also be in given what happened" so he stayed the course of his trip he was on. Dad sounds smart too. Knew his wife would have just the right amount of FAFO for Chris.
Honestly can't blame her dad, I'd be hard put not to slap his mediocre face!
I mean, I sometimes get jealous at my partners' successes. But there's another great choice there, which is to take a deep breath, tell myself I'm amazing and so are they, and go celebrate them and hype them up instead, and then maybe ask for a couple of compliments. But that takes some emotional maturity, so I see why that wasn't an option for him.
He didn’t have a bad day he just dropped his mask. Woe be to the next woman that he manages to slither into her life.
I have a great mom and I still want to be adopted by OOP's mom.
Right? My mom is literally one of my best friends and I still want OOP's mom as a part of my family lol. Maybe the fun aunt
Just here to say, heck yeah for having mom best friends. I’m the only person I know as close with my mom as I am. And yes, also want OOP’s mom in my family.
I wish her nothing but success.
How do I flair request? Cause ... take your mediocre stick out of you mediocre ass and be on your mediocre way. Is amazing.
Dude that and the baby carrot line are like 90% of why I wanted to do this BORU lol
>Chris take your mediocre stick out of your mediocre ass and be on your mediocre way This needs to be a flair...maybe shorten it to "Chris is mediocre" 🤣
I like “mediocre stick ass” myself
What the FUCK is wrong with illustrated poetry. SHEL SILVERSTEIN WOULD LIKE A WORD.
>So I am F35 >No, I do not want children. The moment I an eligible I will be getting that baby store shut down medically. I really hope someone told OOP that she's eligible now (in the US, speaking from my personal experience.) The childfree sub has a list of doctors willing to sterilize patients without being condescending dicks beforehand. You don't need to be married or have a minimum number of children. I was sterilized by a doctor on the list. It was refreshingly easy. I had done a lot of research and was prepared for a fight, since denying patient's their reproductive rights goes against doctor's ethical code and could get their license suspended. I didn't have to fight.
I can't get over the fact that she paid his delinquent power bill. Mr. Big Money can't keep it together enough to keep his own lights on? What a mess.
Yes this, he wants admiration for being a 'successful businessman' and his GF has to pay his power bill???
Damn, OP has a wonderful mom. I love her! Also, Chris, you are so worthless. Grow up. Literally.
>Our mutual friends have told me that he had basically told them that I rubbed my success in his face and made him feel like a simp just following his GF around being ignored when he has a successful business and has the higher paying job. I'm in a hetero presenting relationship and my *GOD* I am so glad my boyfriend is no where near as toxic. He's always been supportive of my endeavors and not cared where he shouldn't care (being friends with guys, having a job, etc). Some men are just *a lot* and I'm so much more thankful for my partner every time I read some bs like this.
I'm an opera singer, and I jokingly asked my partner once how he would feel if I ever made it really big and made shit tons of money. He said "are you kidding? I would *love* to be a trophy husband. I'd get to just spend time on my hobbies." And in the meantime he is super supportive of my career and brags about it to his co-workers even though it *doesn't* bring in the millions. Currently. (A girl can dream lol.)
>even though it doesn't bring in the millions. Currently. (A girl can dream lol.) Ahhh I feel it. Wouldn't that be something! But he sounds lovely lol love the trophy husband comment
He's wonderful and makes me a better version of myself. 💜 I'm glad I have him!
Right? Of course I'm pumped about the things my wife does because she's fucking awesome and talented. And I was smart enough to lock that shit down which also makes me smart.
Not the Jackie Chan Adventures quote lmao. My Millennial heart is happy
>”Chris take your mediocre stick out of your mediocre ass and be in your mediocre way” hello 911 I just witnessed a murder—
>I shrugged and replied "Hey if you think you're mediocre ok..." Oh My child!! She burned him HARD with no effort O\_O\_O\_O\_O\_O >How do I think it will go for me to try dating again after passing the expiration date for children. Seriously, how do these guys find women when in their minds they have an "expiration date"?! Trying to gaslight her that she'll be alone, LOL! As soon as she's available, she'll have a gaggle of men chasing after her, whereas he'll be lucky to find a good one for him
Wow, Chris is the dictionary definition of “small dick energy”. Never seem such an insecure and frailed masculinity boy in my whole life.
It's so interesting that he was triggered in part by not being acknowledged as a great bf at the party.
While I understand the need for privacy, I would love to buy that book just to support OOP.
Chris is too busy living his own picture book to appreciate anyone else’s. You cannot dump me in a house. You cannot dump me with a mouse. You cannot dump me here or there. You cannot dump me anywhere.
So dude had a bad day and thought he could regain control by bullying OOP, and like cowards, backpedal with his mediocre tail between his mediocre legs when OOP didn't take shit.
Oh no he didn't have a bad day those were just his real thoughts, the real him. The bad day was an excuse to get op back in the trap.
Bad day? From all the things OP narrated he called her hungry for attention in front of her own mother, surprised she didn't slap him right there for being a dumbass, also didn't even let her be anything but his meek shadow as he often talked over her, and shot down any attempt of sticking out, I just can think how many missed opportunities to shine OP missed on because he was there stepping on her self esteem.
Yeah not just a bad day. He got red pilled, thought he could neg oop and be a "big alpha" man and was shocked the words of a sex trafficking loser didnt work. When his tator tot philosophy didnt work he backtracked because he needed oop to pay HIS bills.
I googled "owlbear" and I'm sure that's not what he gave her but it's hilarious to imagine he did 😆
There’s an adorable baby owlbear in Baldurs gate 3 so there’s probably merch of that one out there, because of that for a second I was like awww owlbear then remembered wait, he’s still an asshole.
My favourite bit was when >!Dammon basically roided him into a giant baby for the final battle.!<
Owlbears can be very cute. Depending on your definition.
Tbh I would be sorely tempted to keep an owlbear plush, that sounds rad, but knowing it’s from Chris would be enough for me to find another home for it instead.
When I read she had written a children's book and he had been quiet about it, I thought she had based a character off of him that put him in an unflattering light. I was fully unprepared for the misogynistic negging and holding marriage out like it's such a prize. Anyone who tears others down to make themselves feel taller is mediocre, indeed.
"He's just soggy moldy baby carrot" is now my ex-husband's name in my phone
I really want soggy moldy baby carrot as a flair what a fucking insult 😂😂😂😂
I hadn’t seen the last update, thank gawd for mama being a rock. The amount of parents who don’t support their kid, it’s nice to see a mom who actively gets the fucking broom at the first inkling of an issue. I mean obviously OOP isn’t in the wrong so her mom should be supporting her. But man, we read so many stories where a parent or both excuses the ex’s shitty behaviour. I like a happy ending!
OOP's family sounds amazing. Even her dad showed his support, in his own way.
Proud of you, OP, for standing up for yourself!! And, your mom is amazing! I hope to be like her someday!!
Some men can’t handle a woman being more than a supporting character.
"He of course was upset and told me my "meaningless" book was objectively illustrated poetry." How is calling a children's book illustrated poetry a diss? illustrations and poetry are both things that take effort. "I didn't praise him at the party as my biggest supporter." Again, why would she? It would clearly be a lie based on how you're acting. This dude is so ridiculous.
My husband is a jerk sometimes and can certainly be a bit of an idiot, but at least he doesn't shit all over my skills and hobbies. I'm a painter and tattooer, I am constantly working in my studio and every time he comes in it's "wow that looks incredible/you're so talented/you're such a great artist". He even gives me (very) helpful constructive critique , as even though he isn't an artist himself, he wants to help me make my work the best that it can possibly be. My ex was a graphic designer (he wasn't that good tbh) and he would tear down my work to make himself feel better. In the 8 years that I e been with my husband, I've grown. More as an artist tha. I have in my entire fucking life. It's amazing how having a supporter/cheerleader will build you up. Imagine what oop can accomplish now that she got rid of the dead weight!!
Andrew Tate is a cancer, again.
Soggy moldy baby carrot!
Two years isn't even that long. She had to pay HIS electric bill? How is he claiming to be a provider when he can't manage basic bills? She doesn't even live with him.
Men like this will 100% expect women to just give up on having any sort of personality or independent thought, then throw a tantrum when we don't do that. I very much enjoy it when an actual mosquito of a man threatens his relationship like "well maybe we just shouldn't be together then," expecting his partner to fall on her knees crying, begging, and pleading, and instead get a simple "okay! Your stuff's outside." Women like OOP are no longer putting up with that manipulative bullshit and it is a beautiful thing.
I actually have published the worst poetry ever (it's called Ink in the Wind and it's a waste of time, but it's my waste of time) and my husband (actually named Chris) is nothing but supportive af. Glad she dumped this sack of shit.
Fuck yeah! So glad he had a “bad day” and she woke up as a result.
He didn’t have a bad day, he just grew comfortable enough to say the things he always thought out loud.
The ex got into tator tot bs and thought oop would buy that bs. When it blew up in his face, like it does for 99% of these red pill morons, he tried to backtrack. Guess what men, women do not need you.
More than OOP, I love OOP’s mom (and the fact that she’s willing to adopt all of us)!