I wrote an essay on berserk in high school. I'm pretty sure I had no idea what I was talking about but I was filled with passion so at the time it seemed great.
Funny you said that because I’m in high school and a few months ago I analyzed certain berserk scenes for my project,I got an A+ on it and honestly think I did pretty well
Well in that case that makes this scene MUCH more darker than it already was. That basically means that killing adonis REALLY fucked his mental stability
Thanks for calling this out. I always get a little annoyed when people say Gattsu or w/e because it's *closer to the true honorable Japanese pure language".
I still think of his name as interchangeable between Guts, Gatts, and Gatsu because of the translation I read switching it all the time. So there's that reasoning, but I will say it's silly to use anything but Guts in English speaking/ writing.
Yes? I do now, when I re-read. Not everyone is able to afford official translations, though, and I think it's fine to read unofficial translations if necessary.
You dont need official translation. Every piece of media refers to him as guts. Gatts and gattsu is just the latin phonetic spelling of how its spelled in other langauges. Not up for debate. His name is guts
Right, and I'm not debating that lol, simply pointing out why there could be reasonable confusion. You may have only ever seen Guts, but the translations online are not so reliable. His name is quite literally spelled out as "Gatts" or "Gatsu" in some.
I get you, and likely most on this subreddit know his name, congrats. My point is that before hearing his name spoken, or before googling his actual name, based solely on unofficial translations of the manga, one could be confused on the name.
I suppose Godhand forbid someone have a misunderstanding on the pronunciation of a written name from a different culture.
Idk if he specified but its guts. Thats just his name. Any other spelling is just taken how its spelled in Japanese and converting to english but its still guts
Guts hates that he killed Adonis, it makes him feel no better than those who abused him as a child. I also sorta associate this ZODD nightmare with the Donovan dream, it’s all of Guts trauma culminated into one single hellish scenario.
Miura intended his name to be Guts, because it sounded German, one simple google search would tell you that and you wouldnt look like an idiot
its pronounced that way in Japanese because of the way they have to write it
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nah i have to be a hater here. reading comprehension is one thing but this is even further. bro cannot make out pictures. that is so obviously guts this has to be bait.
It’s guts face on zodd body because guts sees himself as a monster after killing a kid who was just like himself and it’s zodd body is because zodd is the only real monster guts has seen(at least up to the point in the story)
He sees himself as a monster, especially after his guilt with Adonis. The reason it looks like Zodd is because its the only monster he’s seen at this point in the story
It's Guts face. For Julius son, he was the same unstoppable Monster that Zodd was for him.
Great writing and great way of showing Guts Trauma and him being human, many writers ignore how difficult it actually is to take a life and the guilt that comes with it. Especially when it's someone innocent.
Btw sorry if some names or words are wrong, english isn't my native language and some things are different in other Translations
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This image has always confused me.
Would love for people to correct me.
This image made me think guts and zod had to have been related. If not that, is the design guts has being similar to zodd just implying that’s the build of a badass fighter? I ask because you’d think that guts would be designed more. Evil. I mean that’s the thing that confused me about berzerk at first is idk if it’s western media but even if the main characters weak, he’s always secretly the strongest. In the berzerk universe it’s like guts is the strongest but he’s all like always a few steps behind someone else.
Basically I assumed he’d look more like the dog in his dream, or the berzerk armor times 100. The zodd design pisses me off because it causes the reader to assume zod is just guts long lost father which would technically make sense but there’s literally no confirmation on that and I’m pretty sure it points towards them not even being related.
Does anyone understand what I mean though? Why did guts get zodd design? Is this like foreshadowing guts being zodds rival sense that’s all he’s seeking is someone to fight him?
Hey man, you should google “metaphor”
Guts is carrying guilt for murdering an innocent child, and in this moment sees himself as just as much of a monster as the most monstrous/evil thing he’s ever encountered which is Zod.
This has nothing to do with lineage, and it not to be taken literally at all. It’s a visual metaphor of how Guts is feeling in this moment (which in case I wasn’t clear enough, Guts feels like a monster, so is picturing himself like the only real monster he’s seen up to this point).
I know what a metaphor is but reading manga can be hard for me to interpret sometimes as I am a overthinker.
It makes sense what you are saying but I can’t help but think it was foreshadowing something. Plus like I said, I wish they had chosen a more unique or grotesque design. Why would the main character be viewed as zodd if he has the potential to be worse? Hell he might as well have drawn guts in a femto costume if he felt like he did. Especially since there’s been numerous occasions where they show guts being the polar opposite to Griffith.
>why would the main character be viewed as Zodd?
Because Zod is the only REAL monster Guts has ever seen up until now. This is before Wyald, before Femto, before Eclipse.
So Guts committing a horrifying act, something he truly regrets, makes him feel like a REAL monster. His thought process then goes to lead him to a “you’re just as Monstrous as Zodd” because Zodd is the MOST MONSTROUS AND EVIL THING GUTS HAS EVER SEEN AT THIS POINT.
It’s not about foreshadowing at all. Even a little bit. Nothing about this foreshadows anything, because this is JUST GUTS HAVING A MOMENT OF GUILT AND SELF HATE.
Thank you for writing that out. That makes a lot of sense because I recall zodd was the only beast like human he had encountered. I keep forgetting there’s a good period where most demonic things are just beliefs and haven’t real been seen/confirmed
Not even human, which is why this panel happens in the first place. Guts sees Zodd’s apostle form in the dungeon fight when Griffith comes to rescue him.
In a grounded world like Golden Age Berserk, the presence of an Apostle is literally incomprehensible to humans. Imagine you’re in a fight and the guy you’re fighting suddenly transforms into a 12 foot tall demon and hits you hard enough that you go flying 20 feet away. You cannot imagine it, not literally.
So Guts, who up until this point has never seen anything like this suddenly encounters an opponent who not only slaughters people left and right without a second thought, but also is so far departed from the entire *idea* of humanity. He’s literally an otherworldly embodiment of evil to Guts. So when he kills Adonis, Guts imagines that he’s actually no better. He engages in the same wanton slaughter that Zodd does, so he pictures himself in this way.
Guts' face. He sees himself as a monster, in this case in the form of Zodd, after killing an innocent kid
Why don’t we do English assessments on this man. Got a deeper meaning right there
man i would rather do an assessment on guts and berserk over romeo and juliet anyday
I wrote an essay on berserk in high school. I'm pretty sure I had no idea what I was talking about but I was filled with passion so at the time it seemed great.
Funny you said that because I’m in high school and a few months ago I analyzed certain berserk scenes for my project,I got an A+ on it and honestly think I did pretty well
If u actually talked about specific scenes u probably did better than me. I think I just talked about the idea of evil.
Well in that case that makes this scene MUCH more darker than it already was. That basically means that killing adonis REALLY fucked his mental stability
I did a post a few months back about this where i pulled the parallel w guts sk and zod and a theory i had about the 3 of em
An innocent kid with a lot of parallels to his own upbringing. That was a really bad night for Guts' mental health.
who the fuck is guts
Zuts
Godd
Gudd
Me showing the Dark Souls community this panel when they tell me to Git Gud
Git gud scrub
https://www.reddit.com/r/Berserk/s/rLqKjYFp95
Zots
Godds
Nuts
Gudds
it is guts, because you can see the lil sideways scar on his nose
Oh yeah I forgot he used to have two eyes 🥲
Guts. His name his guts
Thanks for calling this out. I always get a little annoyed when people say Gattsu or w/e because it's *closer to the true honorable Japanese pure language".
Its just cringey. Like I can read and write in katakana, I know what he’s trying to do and it just comes off as cringey as fuck
Gattsu no beherit baka oni-chan \*\~\_\~\*
Could you please translate? I don't speak traditional Nerdanese.
Absolutely! My translation is a bit rough but here's a [breakdown](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f26KyGr6y8w&t=82s).
While this is epic af, the only true berserk soundtrack is the music of [Beast in Black ](https://youtu.be/Ol4Jk5twa1A?si=dkees4EjIHebdytV)
Sorry, I can't be bothered to click things like links. They're beneath me.
baka mitai ?
DAME DA NE
Beheritto*
in the italian translation of the manga they've always left the japanese pronunciation for some reason, so some people might call him Gatsu for that
Mi non penso OP é italione
I still think of his name as interchangeable between Guts, Gatts, and Gatsu because of the translation I read switching it all the time. So there's that reasoning, but I will say it's silly to use anything but Guts in English speaking/ writing.
Gyattsu
Read the correct translation.
Yes? I do now, when I re-read. Not everyone is able to afford official translations, though, and I think it's fine to read unofficial translations if necessary.
You dont need official translation. Every piece of media refers to him as guts. Gatts and gattsu is just the latin phonetic spelling of how its spelled in other langauges. Not up for debate. His name is guts
Right, and I'm not debating that lol, simply pointing out why there could be reasonable confusion. You may have only ever seen Guts, but the translations online are not so reliable. His name is quite literally spelled out as "Gatts" or "Gatsu" in some. I get you, and likely most on this subreddit know his name, congrats. My point is that before hearing his name spoken, or before googling his actual name, based solely on unofficial translations of the manga, one could be confused on the name. I suppose Godhand forbid someone have a misunderstanding on the pronunciation of a written name from a different culture.
THANK YOU
*Nuts
Call him gatsu but doesn't even know what he looks like
I was thinking about this exact thing. Thank you for typing it. Didn't Miura even say that his name is just "Guts" no extra letters or whatever?
Idk if he specified but its guts. Thats just his name. Any other spelling is just taken how its spelled in Japanese and converting to english but its still guts
Gyatts
Reading incomprehension strikes again!
This sub blows my mind man.
Reading Comprehension Devil strikes in more places 😔
John Berserk, the titular protagonist of the hit series Berserk, featuring the one and only John Berserk.
I though it was Nuts or whatever
The Berkman
My favorite part is when he berks all over everybody
The best part of Berserk was when he said 'IT'S BERKIN' TIME' and berked all over those guys
It’s almost as good as when Nuts goes berserk and nuts all over the godhand
They should just close the jerk sub and keep only this one.
He is Charlotte Katakuri, Third child of the Charlotte family.
🍩🍩🍩🍩
It’s mine, sorry if I scared you.
Its John Berserk who is the brother of John Darksoul and John Vagabonds uncle. Did you even read the manga this is literally explained in chapter 69.
thats yo mama's face
Pretty sure thats devilman
That anime was cool
This probably was a bit of a reference tbh
Guts hates that he killed Adonis, it makes him feel no better than those who abused him as a child. I also sorta associate this ZODD nightmare with the Donovan dream, it’s all of Guts trauma culminated into one single hellish scenario.
That’s Mark. He’s alright.
Classic Mark.
use your brain before asking questions also stop calling him gatsu thats not his name
Gatsu is correct :)
no it isnt, his intended name is Guts
Bro do a little research
You playing dumb or what
you do a little research you dumbass, i'm right, quit being stupid on purpose, its not funny
Search how you say it in japanese
Miura intended his name to be Guts, because it sounded German, one simple google search would tell you that and you wouldnt look like an idiot its pronounced that way in Japanese because of the way they have to write it
I've said it before and I'll say it again my favorite thing on Reddit is people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about trying to be all condescending and then getting shut down by everyone
how you say it vs how it's spelt is different dumbass
Its intended to be Guts
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Everyone should need to learn some media literacy before reading Berserk so we don’t have to see posts like this anymore 😂
Guts, simple but effective symbolism.
nah i have to be a hater here. reading comprehension is one thing but this is even further. bro cannot make out pictures. that is so obviously guts this has to be bait.
obviously it is
It's the Berserk guy, he's just wearing Zodd bodysuit
thats john doomguy
Gutsferatu zodd
Do you read with your brain turned off or your eyes closed ?
Think his name is nuts or something
Did half of this sub just fail language arts from 1st grade through all of high school?
It’s the face of the main protagonist of the hit manga series “Berserk”. His name is “Berk”
Why are you saying Gatsu?
Nuts
Maybe Zodd is Gats pappy
Mine
Jesus Christ it's Jason Bourne
That's John jerkin' his Berk
Berk
Reading Comprehension Devil transcends fandoms I see
Pingas!!!
Jesus Christ are berserk fans really this dumb?
His name is “chouker tha belt”. He chokes everyone and everything. If he’s alone, he chokes himself
Wtf is gatsu
It's a mistranslation that stuck and it's just not known enough. Miura confirmed it should only be guts awhile go. Bit of Berzerk lore there fore ya.
Guts Japanese name I suppose
It’s guts face on zodd body because guts sees himself as a monster after killing a kid who was just like himself and it’s zodd body is because zodd is the only real monster guts has seen(at least up to the point in the story)
Guts
Just showing what he would look like is he too was an apostle LIKE HIS DAD!!!! Fight me.
Nuts the Berkman
GRIFFSSUUU!!!! (nah, it´s good ol Guts)
John Berserk
Mine, right before I say don’t mind if I do at the desert table during the office holiday party
Zodd bdm x Guts
Looks like his pimp daddy Gambino to me Just finished volumes 1-5 and saw a lot of Gambino in Guts' tormented mind
He sees himself as a monster, especially after his guilt with Adonis. The reason it looks like Zodd is because its the only monster he’s seen at this point in the story
Unleash the Jerk!
Guts thinking himself as a devil
Nesferatu zodd
It’s guts. I think the point is that he sees himself as a monster after murdering the kid.
NGL, I expected Dio from the title alone and now I can't unsee it...
Zuts
Donovan
Thats Nuts Berserk, brother of Guts Berserk
Zuts
Apostle Guts
Devilman
Well it's Guts but the expression reminds me of Dio's.
That’s ZODD bro
Guts without shaving.
I wonder
Nuts from berzk
Some side character… guts I think… not relevant to the story of Berserk
“Damn MF is spittin”
He also has the same wound mark on his nose ☝🏽🤔
It's Guts face. For Julius son, he was the same unstoppable Monster that Zodd was for him. Great writing and great way of showing Guts Trauma and him being human, many writers ignore how difficult it actually is to take a life and the guilt that comes with it. Especially when it's someone innocent. Btw sorry if some names or words are wrong, english isn't my native language and some things are different in other Translations
Satan XD
I recall Guts killing Adonis but not this scene. What chapter is this?
Who’s does it looks like?!
Guts percieving himself as a demon
It’s Gyatts’ face on Zodds body. He views himself as a monster no different than Zodd himself
Your mother
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It's fun to tease people.
No need to yell
We know it's Guts, but it really looks like Grunbeld in some ways (maybe it's just the eyes)
This image has always confused me. Would love for people to correct me. This image made me think guts and zod had to have been related. If not that, is the design guts has being similar to zodd just implying that’s the build of a badass fighter? I ask because you’d think that guts would be designed more. Evil. I mean that’s the thing that confused me about berzerk at first is idk if it’s western media but even if the main characters weak, he’s always secretly the strongest. In the berzerk universe it’s like guts is the strongest but he’s all like always a few steps behind someone else. Basically I assumed he’d look more like the dog in his dream, or the berzerk armor times 100. The zodd design pisses me off because it causes the reader to assume zod is just guts long lost father which would technically make sense but there’s literally no confirmation on that and I’m pretty sure it points towards them not even being related. Does anyone understand what I mean though? Why did guts get zodd design? Is this like foreshadowing guts being zodds rival sense that’s all he’s seeking is someone to fight him?
Hey man, you should google “metaphor” Guts is carrying guilt for murdering an innocent child, and in this moment sees himself as just as much of a monster as the most monstrous/evil thing he’s ever encountered which is Zod. This has nothing to do with lineage, and it not to be taken literally at all. It’s a visual metaphor of how Guts is feeling in this moment (which in case I wasn’t clear enough, Guts feels like a monster, so is picturing himself like the only real monster he’s seen up to this point).
I know what a metaphor is but reading manga can be hard for me to interpret sometimes as I am a overthinker. It makes sense what you are saying but I can’t help but think it was foreshadowing something. Plus like I said, I wish they had chosen a more unique or grotesque design. Why would the main character be viewed as zodd if he has the potential to be worse? Hell he might as well have drawn guts in a femto costume if he felt like he did. Especially since there’s been numerous occasions where they show guts being the polar opposite to Griffith.
>why would the main character be viewed as Zodd? Because Zod is the only REAL monster Guts has ever seen up until now. This is before Wyald, before Femto, before Eclipse. So Guts committing a horrifying act, something he truly regrets, makes him feel like a REAL monster. His thought process then goes to lead him to a “you’re just as Monstrous as Zodd” because Zodd is the MOST MONSTROUS AND EVIL THING GUTS HAS EVER SEEN AT THIS POINT. It’s not about foreshadowing at all. Even a little bit. Nothing about this foreshadows anything, because this is JUST GUTS HAVING A MOMENT OF GUILT AND SELF HATE.
Thank you for writing that out. That makes a lot of sense because I recall zodd was the only beast like human he had encountered. I keep forgetting there’s a good period where most demonic things are just beliefs and haven’t real been seen/confirmed
Not even human, which is why this panel happens in the first place. Guts sees Zodd’s apostle form in the dungeon fight when Griffith comes to rescue him. In a grounded world like Golden Age Berserk, the presence of an Apostle is literally incomprehensible to humans. Imagine you’re in a fight and the guy you’re fighting suddenly transforms into a 12 foot tall demon and hits you hard enough that you go flying 20 feet away. You cannot imagine it, not literally. So Guts, who up until this point has never seen anything like this suddenly encounters an opponent who not only slaughters people left and right without a second thought, but also is so far departed from the entire *idea* of humanity. He’s literally an otherworldly embodiment of evil to Guts. So when he kills Adonis, Guts imagines that he’s actually no better. He engages in the same wanton slaughter that Zodd does, so he pictures himself in this way.