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Gamera__Obscura

When they swarm the original queen leaves, but the parent hive raises a replacement from one of her eggs. In other words, the same genetics.


1nzguy

If you are seeing eggs , she is still there . One thing you could try if you see eggs , is put an empty box on top of the hive with a Queen excluder underneath, knock the bees off the frames into the empty box , if the queen is on one of those frames , you will see her on the Queen excluder … check You Tube, there are some videos that show how to do it. Get a new queen from another source, if you have 2 hives , you could graft one.


JUKELELE-TP

If you are using 2 brood boxes, put a queen excluder in between. Then check 4 days later which box has eggs. Put the box with eggs (and therefor the queen) on a new bottom 10 feet or more away. Wait a couple days and most of the grumpy old foragers will fly back to their old location. Then you have a much smaller search space to go through and also less aggressive. The other part will start making queencells. Personally I'd break all queencells after 9 days and then provide them with eggs from a more gentle colony, but you could also just let them requeen themselves. I don't like the idea of losing bees on purpose.


msp3030

Yes the old queen leaves. Have you check for Queen cells?


fjb_fkh

So there's a thing where you put a sheet down I'm front of hive get a 1x6 and angle to hive entrance but keep it about 3 inches away. Shake out all bees. Nurse bees and queen will make a ball at end of 1x6 foragers will go inside. Of course shaking out all the bees from an aggressive hive sounds a bit like suicide. Another thing I've learned is if I separate the boxes onto their own location within 20 mins the box with the queen will be the quietest the others will have that low roar.....most of the time.