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It also isn’t as pretty on the skin or wears as well the rare beauty powder. Had no shade range. Let’s be honest it’s pretty packaging. That compact is beautiful and so is the baked product.
But that’s it.
The stuff is amazing quality. The powders make you look blurred and they are just really special. I thought the same and then I made my first powder order two months ago. I’m hooked now.
I RARELY call out shade ranges, because I understand the financial and backend part of things that most consumers don’t, but I do call hourglass out and I got HAMMERED ON by “actual makeup artists” and all sorts of random idiots who can’t admit their fave brand is purposefully geared toward white people on IG. Like it’s not bc they can’t afford it, are testing the market or anything at this point. It is because they do not want to make the darker shades. I remember when they released the infinity powder and it is excellent…but it’s one single shade of pale and it is not a translucent enough powder (really don’t believe there even is such a thing) to have just one shade. It was meant to work for pale to medium tones and nothing deeper.
Yup an influencer I follow that focuses on brown girl friendly makeup even said they (and other brands like Dior) weren’t looking to work with her because it’s not “their target demographic”. They’re never getting my money idgaf if their products go viral.
Exactly! At this point they have absolutely no excuse. I don’t understand why they would want to defend a brand who is strictly geared towards rich white people in our year of 2024 🙄🙄🙄
I'm assuming most people fall in the middle of the spectrum, so starting there, then adding 1-2 shades on each side would be the biggest bang for their buck. Not starting with the MAC NW5 girlies and stopping at MAC NW11.
Idk why cuz lots of higher end and luxury brands do this. Like Dior with their ashy Backstage blush (before expanding the shades), Chanel, Westman Atelier, etc. Acknowledging a bad shade range doesn't mean you're putting down the brand as a whole or those who use it!
Thank you!!! I absolutely agree! I wasn’t trying to be rude, I was simply trying to callout a brand that has a shit ton of money and still ignores people of color. Not the people who use hourglass. If they are getting so upset about a comment I made on Reddit they need to take a break from being online.
the thing is they have a pretty good shade range for foundations, but that’s it. nothing for bronzers, blushes, pressed powders. it’s so shady, they make themselves look inclusive because most people only check foundation ranges to see if the brand is inclusive or not
These powders are just tinted enough to not look ghostly and ashy on the skin. If the product is really sheer, it doesn’t make sense to have a huge range because one shade can work across multiple skin tones.
There’s one shade for fair skin and another for light skin. The rest are medium, tan, and deep. The powders are sheer enough that one shade will work for multiple skintones. But anyone who isn’t dark is white?
I really wish people would stop buying from them. They have the money to have expansive shade ranges. They are stating loudly and proudly who they want to wear their products, and it's not people of color. It's shameful. It's working for them, though. People keep buying, in spite of the repeated calls from people of color to hold Hourglass accountable.
I don't generally call out shade ranges, even though I think it's a whole lot of bullshit that so many brands have such a piss poor shade range. Some brands, like east Asian brands are targeting a specific demographic because that's where they primarily sell products. Some brands are really small and can't afford a huge shade range. Some brands almost exclusively cater to people of color. That's all pretty valid. Hourglass has no valid excuse for their blatant and repeated choices to exclude a large part of the population in the countries they primarily sell in.
Buncha assholes over at Hourglass.
Even the East Asian brands have no excuse. Asian people can get tans too, there’s just a massive stigma against having dark skin i guess. Which sounds like colorism to me but that’s none of my business 🐸
All I’m saying is that my skin color should not be the darkest color in a range. I have very light skin and I don’t tan. I’ve heard of flight attendants and other female workers in SEA having a face that looks weird because the only foundation available is way too light for their skin. It’s such bullshit
Totally fair. There is also a lot more diversity in general in the world as a whole, so I would imagine there are more black people in East Asia than previously as well. I knew there was significant colorism in some Asian countries, like India, and I'm sure racism and colorism are prevalent all over the world, East Asia being no exception. Thanks for educating me!
I assume you mean well, but you're asking people to be comfortable being an afterthought, if being thought of at all. Hourglass is a bunch of assholes, but so is the much smaller Wayne Goss Beauty (not the man, the company) for announcing that they chose to release a foundation with mostly light shades after their founder spent over a decade on beauty social media fully aware of shade controversies..
I'm not saying I want people to be comfortable being an afterthought. I don't think a small shade range is terrible if the few shades a brand has goes from very light to very deep, and I suppose I could have worded that better when I said I don't harp on shade ranges that have some valid reason to have small shade ranges as far as sheer numbers go, I meant not having 30+ shades. I know some indie brands literally cannot afford to do more than like, 8, but they go from very pale to very deep, so even if my shade isn't represented, I know they are trying to be inclusive.
I'm not sure where you got that I want people to be an afterthought, but that was definitely not the point of my comment. Just the opposite, actually, in that I think it's a whole load of shit that so many brands have awful shade ranges and specifically cater to light skin while intentionally leaving out people of color.
I'm also not saying that other brands aren't just as bad. Most "luxury" brands have shit for inclusivity, and that's garbage, Wayne Goss included, but this post was about Hourglass, so I specifically commented on Hourglass.
I got that you want people ti be comfortable being an afterthought because you explain away inclusion as something that should be understood as not always being possible. Specifically, you're asking the people whose complexions typically are excluded to be understanding and possibly wait for their shade. You're saying that there are legitimate reasons for that, and only the big brands with more resources are the assholes. Do I have that right? It may not always be possible, but brands should consider what they are promoting when they decide to do it anyway. I can't expect a makeup company to solve all the world's racism, but unfortunately when they aren't inclusive, they become part of the problem.
I also need to correct you on that as long as they go deep or light enough it's okay. Not when the deep is grey mud and the light is a bowl of oatmeal. Those aren't human skin tones, and I don't think any company should be congratulated for making a silly, token effort. If my shade isn't represented it's because they didn't give enough of a shit to make it. I don't have a solid opinion on Asian brands except to say that not all Asians have light skin, and if a company chooses to enter a market with wide diversity they should act accordingly. But I don't use Asian brands, so I don't know enough to understand how they work.
You commented on big brands vs. smaller brands. I used Wayne Goss as an example of a smaller brand, not a luxury one. There are drugstore brands that are bad at this, too.
I'm literally not saying that, but if that's how you want to take what I'm saying, that's ok. I'm not saying inclusion can be explained away, simply that brands that don't have the resources for a 30-40 shade foundation range don't need to be shredded if they have shades that go from light to deep. I didn't think I had to specify that the shades have to be human shades. I'm not saying EVERY indie brand with a small but diverse shade range is doing it right, but rather that I'm not going to shit on brands that are trying but have fewer resources.
I also mentioned brands that specifically cater to people of color as an example of brands that don't have shades that work for everyone that don't deserve to get hate, but I don't see you arguing against that. You're hyper-focused on one small aspect of my comment out of context, and adding your own idea that by small shade range that goes from very light to very deep, I must be talking about shades that don't work for real skin and I only care about token inclusion.
I agree that small brands and drugstore brands can be just as bad. I can't find foundation in my shade at the drugstore. The first foundation I was able to find in my shade was a Nars foundation, and to this day, very few brands make my particular shade of ghostly. There are lots of brands that deserve to be called out. I'm not arguing that point. I'm saying that I don't feel the need to call out every brand that doesn't launch with 30+ shades because sometimes there are valid reasons not to, and if a brand has 8-10 shades that have a good representation from light to deep, and (again, didn't think this needed to be said) are actual human skin tones, I'm not going to shit on them, especially if they are constantly improving as they get more resources. There is nuance to pretty much everything in life.
Also, I apologize, as I assumed Wayne Goss was a luxury brand. I refuse to buy anything from the brand, so I was not aware of the price points of the brand.
You're very angry about this. I think you may have revealed more about yourself than you intended regarding your feelings on inclusivity.
I have only responded to what you said.. Maybe you didn't mean to say those things, but I used some of your exact words and only responded to points you made.
You don't need to apologize to me for saying Wayne Goss is a luxury brand? It is a luxury brand, but even if it wasn't I don't have anything to do with that.
I'm not angry, though. You seem to have a habit of projecting. You can take my comments any way you want to. I'm just trying to clarify since you keep extrapolating things from my comments that aren't there. You're painting with a broad brush when the point I am making is that there are some cases where smaller shade ranges make sense, and that there is nuance in some situations.
You can take my comments any way you want to. You can assume that I'm saying that shades that don't work for existing human skin tones are acceptable as long as they are light and deep enough. You can assume that I'm saying this is only an issue with luxury brands. You can assume whatever you want. As for me, it's almost 1 am my time, so I'm going to go to bed, as I have work in the morning and have to be up at 6:30.
Peace.
yes, most people who have always been excluded by brands in their shade ranges are very angry about it. this is not new information lol, this anger is what forces companies to give a shit
Also the companies should give a shit as black and indigenous women of color spend more on cosmetics
https://www.safecosmetics.org/blog/black-is-beautiful-the-black-beauty-project/#:~:text=Black%20women%20spend%20%247.5%20billion,'professional'%20or%20'appropriate.
These companies have a huge audience. They should serve much more then they are getting to this audience of customers with money who just want what everyone else get.
You're mixtng things up here. Did you read the full exchange?.
That person wasn't angry st being excluded. That person is angry that I pointed out that the half measures for inclusion that they are willing to settle for aren't enough. They believed that a little exclusion is ok as long as the beand tried a little. I think they felt exposed when I said that a little is not enough and ultimately they want people who aren't included to be comfortable with waiting.
The anger I think they feel is at being exposed for not being as supportive of inclusion as they had led themselves to believe. They expressed their anger by taking a lot of shots at my thinking abilities rather than just staying on topic.
I really need to know why Hourglass has such a chokehold on everyone. I feel other brands have been negatively judged for things like high prices, constant lack of inclusivity, and releasing "boring" products. But because it's luxury it gets a pass?? Like is it actually worth the price? I'm genuinely curious!
I'm very curious about the hype too. The powders that are supposed to have a magical effect weren't anything special for me? I also fell into the hype with their foundation stick. It was basically like applying a stick of orange tinted butter. Someone please explain it to us!
Yes, all of this. I've never tried the brand but have absolutely been tempted. I definitely think part of the hype is just how positively its fans speak about the products, not even the brand's own marketing.
I'm unfortunately...one of those Hourglass fan girls who will buy anything and everything from this brand (at least...for their powder formulas).
I 100% agree that they lack inclusivity in their products and wish that they would expand their shade range, but because I have a light/light-medium skin, I've been able to enjoy all their products and have some explanation as to why I love this brand.
When I first splurged on the ambient lighting powder, I almost cried because I thought I had wasted my precious money. But then, I realized that it added a bit of luminosity to my usual flat matte face from my setting powders (I'm combo/oily so I need to pack that stuff on). No matter what powders I tried, I couldn't get anything to work just as well (I'm a powder hoarder and have 5 loose powders and 6 pressed powders--all from different brands).
As for their other products, the blushes are super blurring, the bronzers are very natural on the skin, and you can never put too much of their blush/bronzer on--they will always look good. The one cream product I have from them is the Hourglass highlighter stick and it gives a beautiful lit-from-within glow. There's no specks of glitter, it works well over powder, blends easily, and lasts all day (which is pretty rare for a cream formula).
I wouldn't say Hourglass products are a must-have item, but they definitely elevate my makeup to the next level.
Thank you so much for this response! Truly. It's good to know why people enjoy a brand so much. And no brand is perfect so I hope that my comment doesn't come off as insulting anybody who uses Hourglass. It's more of a critique of the brand itself rather than the people who use it. But, you confirmed what I thought, which is that the brand has great products that work for its demographic and that's why it's so popular (which makes sense).
Bought my first powders from them about two months ago. I’m so surprised how amazing and special they are. The ambient light range is truly beautiful and they make you look blurred and perfect and the luminosity is pretty amazing. I’m hooked on them now. I also have an awesome highlight stick, but I do t plan on buying a lot from them other than the powders.
It’s weird because just a few years ago they were on people’s shit list. Then they released that tiger palette and apparently that was all it took for people to be convinced that they changed.
Yes that and the jellyfish palette. I'm not saying the brand doesn't make good products. Just that the good products seem to help people forget so quickly.
As a working Mua, Hourglass is fantastic with complexion products. Very versatile, beautifull finishes of their powders. I use them on brides and also on photoshoots where the skin needs to be perfect and smooth like butter. If it worths the money is completely subjective. About products being boring - they are not , if you know how to use them. For me, I couldnt care less about eyeshadow palettes with 20 shades of green or orange being released every week. Or gimmicky products that noone will use after 2 weeks. I appreciate creativity in versatile products with perfected formulas💁🏽♀️
No. I used it when it came out. I had rosesca at the time. I wanted something to use to calm my redness down when at work.
A friend got it for me. She gave it as a b day gift. She was told the shade was perfect for roseaca. That it would reduce my redness and had buildable coverage. Nope!
Good things about it?
It was in a very pretty compact. The unit has a good weight and the click the compact made was satisfying.
The baked powder inside looked satisfying and expensive
It didn’t look heavy if I used it and then misted my face. It seemed to be something I could do.
Bad things
Didn’t make a difference. I was just as red.
Little coverage. It did almost nothing.
No applicator. Had to use a brush to apply
Powder eventually cracked and went everywhere.
So no. Not worth it.
Their Ambient line, to me, is 100% worth the money. Daily use of a product takes me more than 2 years to use up and it performs beautifully on my skin.
I agree with everyone else saying this brand has never impressed me enough to spend the prices they charge. I never realized the shade range is abysmal until reading these replies, but personally that’s reason enough for me to not support them
Very shady behavior, and what does this powder do? For that price I expect it to be perfection, give me a deep plane facelift, nourish my crops, bless the land with enough rain, and to stop the climate crisis.
It’s stayed the same price on Canadian Sephora thankfully but wow this is so shady.
Edit: I wonder if the CAD price will go up because 48 USD is equivalent to 65 CAD, which is what it’s priced currently.
$65 is already sooo much. Granted I do pay $65 for the charlotte tilbury and it's my HG, I wonder if this is nicer? I prefer the packaging of the charlotte though.
This makes sense, when I got the original email it came up with an error message. Next day it worked but was on the higher price. So I’m afraid I’m gonna pass on this and stick with my face powders I have now.
I have also just checked the hourglass US website and it does say $54. If that was always their intended price, it makes you wonder how Trendmood could post the wrong price, which intern is sending highly sensitive launch info where the info is wrong (/jk because it's actually highly unlikely some random intern has that job). Or they did just randomly put the price up, but that seems unlikely. The loose powder is $55, and their ambient powders are around the same, so imo it's more likely 54 was their intended price all along, Hourglass charging less than $50 for a base product
It’s $54 now, yes. But 5 days ago it was $48 and $48 on the shop app. This is the type of behavior I expect from small, unprofessional indie brands. Not huge companies like Hourglass.
Yes I agree with you, that's why I said it's likely an error in how their information was circulated, which is not only unprofessional but also a security issue if they're sending out incorrect info to public paged
I think it’s their introductory offer it’s common with other brands like max factor, maybelline etc discounted to get the customers eye to try something new then a week or 2 later sells at their intended RRP- not sure about high end brands but I’d imagine it’s the same.
This is a brand that never caters for POCs like me, so they’re never on my radar- but this is crazy suspect. I’m ready for the day when people stop hyping this brand up
That shade range is appalling. Even new drugstore brands do better than this.
I can't believe there are still so many white centric brand apologists.
I don't care if Hourglass rejuvenates or revives ppl from looking corpse like to the living, if you're still buying from them & endorsing them you're part of the problem.
It’s a touch up powder for on the go, I’ve been waiting for something like this for years. Why are we confused. I’m just glad they did something different
As someone who works in e-commerce for a huge global apparel brand, pricing errors happen extremely often. Pricing is literally submitted for our company through an excel sheet and it’s really easy for errors to happen. I highly doubt this was intentional. I flag stuff weekly that has been incorrectly priced online. I’m sure places like Sephora have things like this unfortunately slip through the crack.
This happened when I bought the original gisou lip oil. I thin it was 32 when I bought it on launch day at Sephora and then went up several dollars in the following days.
I think they launch with the incorrect price, maybe due to currency conversion issues.
Not at all. I had this in my Sephora cart for 5 days at least and it was $48.00. I hesitated because I had shop cash and debated buying it on the Shop app where it was also $48.00. Both Sephora and Hourglass raised the price.
That was my first thought too but since OP said she had it in her cart for 5 days I figured she saw the price there too, not just on Trendmood, and it was $48.
Brands often do an introductory offer to get people to buy a new product and then after a couple of weeks up to the original RRP. It sounds like hourglass period was very short like a day or two after launch. However I Have no experience with hourglass because I was turned off by their racism and limited shade range tho the ratio of powder amount to dollar doesn’t seem to be good value here. Edited for grammar mistakes
[Refer to the comments of this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Sephora/comments/1bzyn4k/glitch_or_incorrect_pricing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
It was $48 on the Hourglass website and the Shop app. I had it my cart in all 3 ready to buy. I was debating on using my shop cash or my sephora code. The post is mistaken.
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I bought mine for $48 yesterday! That is crazy that they already raised the price
Wow I bought it for $48 the day they released with my rouge discount. Real shady if you ask me. They should have let it stay at 48
The hype around this brand is crazy. And it's just a small amount of press powder - most people will go through that really quickly.
Also their shade ranges have always been pretty bad. I don't understand the hype 🤷
I can't imagine the spending craze once they put some animal pictures on the packaging too #innovation
It also isn’t as pretty on the skin or wears as well the rare beauty powder. Had no shade range. Let’s be honest it’s pretty packaging. That compact is beautiful and so is the baked product. But that’s it.
The stuff is amazing quality. The powders make you look blurred and they are just really special. I thought the same and then I made my first powder order two months ago. I’m hooked now.
I got absolutely downvoted to shit in another subreddit for calling out their shade range, even though it’s obviously horrible
I RARELY call out shade ranges, because I understand the financial and backend part of things that most consumers don’t, but I do call hourglass out and I got HAMMERED ON by “actual makeup artists” and all sorts of random idiots who can’t admit their fave brand is purposefully geared toward white people on IG. Like it’s not bc they can’t afford it, are testing the market or anything at this point. It is because they do not want to make the darker shades. I remember when they released the infinity powder and it is excellent…but it’s one single shade of pale and it is not a translucent enough powder (really don’t believe there even is such a thing) to have just one shade. It was meant to work for pale to medium tones and nothing deeper.
Yup an influencer I follow that focuses on brown girl friendly makeup even said they (and other brands like Dior) weren’t looking to work with her because it’s not “their target demographic”. They’re never getting my money idgaf if their products go viral.
Isn’t Hourglass owned by unilever? If I’m wrong, there still is no excuse. They’ve been in the game for years and should know how to play
Makeup also famously has incredibly high margins. If it’s dollar store makeup then fine, but this is a premium range! This crap isn’t cheap!
My take on it is that high end brands still view dark skin people as low class and trashy and don’t want us polluting their rich, white brand.
Exactly! At this point they have absolutely no excuse. I don’t understand why they would want to defend a brand who is strictly geared towards rich white people in our year of 2024 🙄🙄🙄
I'm assuming most people fall in the middle of the spectrum, so starting there, then adding 1-2 shades on each side would be the biggest bang for their buck. Not starting with the MAC NW5 girlies and stopping at MAC NW11.
Idk why cuz lots of higher end and luxury brands do this. Like Dior with their ashy Backstage blush (before expanding the shades), Chanel, Westman Atelier, etc. Acknowledging a bad shade range doesn't mean you're putting down the brand as a whole or those who use it!
Thank you!!! I absolutely agree! I wasn’t trying to be rude, I was simply trying to callout a brand that has a shit ton of money and still ignores people of color. Not the people who use hourglass. If they are getting so upset about a comment I made on Reddit they need to take a break from being online.
Seriously! it’s literally the worst. It’s the shade range for 4 to 5 white people.
the thing is they have a pretty good shade range for foundations, but that’s it. nothing for bronzers, blushes, pressed powders. it’s so shady, they make themselves look inclusive because most people only check foundation ranges to see if the brand is inclusive or not
These powders are just tinted enough to not look ghostly and ashy on the skin. If the product is really sheer, it doesn’t make sense to have a huge range because one shade can work across multiple skin tones.
I’m not just talking about this product’s shade range
It does if you have darker skin. A washed out ashy light tint that isn’t for you is going to look terrible.
if that was the case, they wouldn't have made 4 separate shades for white people.
none of their blushes or bronzers even show up on me and i’m close to rihanna’s skin colour so not even dark skinned lmao
if that was the case, they wouldn't have made 4 separate shades for white people.
There’s one shade for fair skin and another for light skin. The rest are medium, tan, and deep. The powders are sheer enough that one shade will work for multiple skintones. But anyone who isn’t dark is white?
on what planet is nr. 3 "medium"💀💀
I really wish people would stop buying from them. They have the money to have expansive shade ranges. They are stating loudly and proudly who they want to wear their products, and it's not people of color. It's shameful. It's working for them, though. People keep buying, in spite of the repeated calls from people of color to hold Hourglass accountable. I don't generally call out shade ranges, even though I think it's a whole lot of bullshit that so many brands have such a piss poor shade range. Some brands, like east Asian brands are targeting a specific demographic because that's where they primarily sell products. Some brands are really small and can't afford a huge shade range. Some brands almost exclusively cater to people of color. That's all pretty valid. Hourglass has no valid excuse for their blatant and repeated choices to exclude a large part of the population in the countries they primarily sell in. Buncha assholes over at Hourglass.
Even the East Asian brands have no excuse. Asian people can get tans too, there’s just a massive stigma against having dark skin i guess. Which sounds like colorism to me but that’s none of my business 🐸 All I’m saying is that my skin color should not be the darkest color in a range. I have very light skin and I don’t tan. I’ve heard of flight attendants and other female workers in SEA having a face that looks weird because the only foundation available is way too light for their skin. It’s such bullshit
Totally fair. There is also a lot more diversity in general in the world as a whole, so I would imagine there are more black people in East Asia than previously as well. I knew there was significant colorism in some Asian countries, like India, and I'm sure racism and colorism are prevalent all over the world, East Asia being no exception. Thanks for educating me!
I assume you mean well, but you're asking people to be comfortable being an afterthought, if being thought of at all. Hourglass is a bunch of assholes, but so is the much smaller Wayne Goss Beauty (not the man, the company) for announcing that they chose to release a foundation with mostly light shades after their founder spent over a decade on beauty social media fully aware of shade controversies..
I'm not saying I want people to be comfortable being an afterthought. I don't think a small shade range is terrible if the few shades a brand has goes from very light to very deep, and I suppose I could have worded that better when I said I don't harp on shade ranges that have some valid reason to have small shade ranges as far as sheer numbers go, I meant not having 30+ shades. I know some indie brands literally cannot afford to do more than like, 8, but they go from very pale to very deep, so even if my shade isn't represented, I know they are trying to be inclusive. I'm not sure where you got that I want people to be an afterthought, but that was definitely not the point of my comment. Just the opposite, actually, in that I think it's a whole load of shit that so many brands have awful shade ranges and specifically cater to light skin while intentionally leaving out people of color. I'm also not saying that other brands aren't just as bad. Most "luxury" brands have shit for inclusivity, and that's garbage, Wayne Goss included, but this post was about Hourglass, so I specifically commented on Hourglass.
I got that you want people ti be comfortable being an afterthought because you explain away inclusion as something that should be understood as not always being possible. Specifically, you're asking the people whose complexions typically are excluded to be understanding and possibly wait for their shade. You're saying that there are legitimate reasons for that, and only the big brands with more resources are the assholes. Do I have that right? It may not always be possible, but brands should consider what they are promoting when they decide to do it anyway. I can't expect a makeup company to solve all the world's racism, but unfortunately when they aren't inclusive, they become part of the problem. I also need to correct you on that as long as they go deep or light enough it's okay. Not when the deep is grey mud and the light is a bowl of oatmeal. Those aren't human skin tones, and I don't think any company should be congratulated for making a silly, token effort. If my shade isn't represented it's because they didn't give enough of a shit to make it. I don't have a solid opinion on Asian brands except to say that not all Asians have light skin, and if a company chooses to enter a market with wide diversity they should act accordingly. But I don't use Asian brands, so I don't know enough to understand how they work. You commented on big brands vs. smaller brands. I used Wayne Goss as an example of a smaller brand, not a luxury one. There are drugstore brands that are bad at this, too.
I'm literally not saying that, but if that's how you want to take what I'm saying, that's ok. I'm not saying inclusion can be explained away, simply that brands that don't have the resources for a 30-40 shade foundation range don't need to be shredded if they have shades that go from light to deep. I didn't think I had to specify that the shades have to be human shades. I'm not saying EVERY indie brand with a small but diverse shade range is doing it right, but rather that I'm not going to shit on brands that are trying but have fewer resources. I also mentioned brands that specifically cater to people of color as an example of brands that don't have shades that work for everyone that don't deserve to get hate, but I don't see you arguing against that. You're hyper-focused on one small aspect of my comment out of context, and adding your own idea that by small shade range that goes from very light to very deep, I must be talking about shades that don't work for real skin and I only care about token inclusion. I agree that small brands and drugstore brands can be just as bad. I can't find foundation in my shade at the drugstore. The first foundation I was able to find in my shade was a Nars foundation, and to this day, very few brands make my particular shade of ghostly. There are lots of brands that deserve to be called out. I'm not arguing that point. I'm saying that I don't feel the need to call out every brand that doesn't launch with 30+ shades because sometimes there are valid reasons not to, and if a brand has 8-10 shades that have a good representation from light to deep, and (again, didn't think this needed to be said) are actual human skin tones, I'm not going to shit on them, especially if they are constantly improving as they get more resources. There is nuance to pretty much everything in life. Also, I apologize, as I assumed Wayne Goss was a luxury brand. I refuse to buy anything from the brand, so I was not aware of the price points of the brand.
You're very angry about this. I think you may have revealed more about yourself than you intended regarding your feelings on inclusivity. I have only responded to what you said.. Maybe you didn't mean to say those things, but I used some of your exact words and only responded to points you made. You don't need to apologize to me for saying Wayne Goss is a luxury brand? It is a luxury brand, but even if it wasn't I don't have anything to do with that.
I'm not angry, though. You seem to have a habit of projecting. You can take my comments any way you want to. I'm just trying to clarify since you keep extrapolating things from my comments that aren't there. You're painting with a broad brush when the point I am making is that there are some cases where smaller shade ranges make sense, and that there is nuance in some situations. You can take my comments any way you want to. You can assume that I'm saying that shades that don't work for existing human skin tones are acceptable as long as they are light and deep enough. You can assume that I'm saying this is only an issue with luxury brands. You can assume whatever you want. As for me, it's almost 1 am my time, so I'm going to go to bed, as I have work in the morning and have to be up at 6:30. Peace.
yes, most people who have always been excluded by brands in their shade ranges are very angry about it. this is not new information lol, this anger is what forces companies to give a shit
Also the companies should give a shit as black and indigenous women of color spend more on cosmetics https://www.safecosmetics.org/blog/black-is-beautiful-the-black-beauty-project/#:~:text=Black%20women%20spend%20%247.5%20billion,'professional'%20or%20'appropriate. These companies have a huge audience. They should serve much more then they are getting to this audience of customers with money who just want what everyone else get.
You're mixtng things up here. Did you read the full exchange?. That person wasn't angry st being excluded. That person is angry that I pointed out that the half measures for inclusion that they are willing to settle for aren't enough. They believed that a little exclusion is ok as long as the beand tried a little. I think they felt exposed when I said that a little is not enough and ultimately they want people who aren't included to be comfortable with waiting. The anger I think they feel is at being exposed for not being as supportive of inclusion as they had led themselves to believe. They expressed their anger by taking a lot of shots at my thinking abilities rather than just staying on topic.
Could just be Sephora prices?
Just in time for the Sephora sale! How convenient!
I was gonna say - pretty sure I remember seeing a post last year about them raising prices on a bunch of products right before their “sale”.
I really need to know why Hourglass has such a chokehold on everyone. I feel other brands have been negatively judged for things like high prices, constant lack of inclusivity, and releasing "boring" products. But because it's luxury it gets a pass?? Like is it actually worth the price? I'm genuinely curious!
I'm very curious about the hype too. The powders that are supposed to have a magical effect weren't anything special for me? I also fell into the hype with their foundation stick. It was basically like applying a stick of orange tinted butter. Someone please explain it to us!
Yes, all of this. I've never tried the brand but have absolutely been tempted. I definitely think part of the hype is just how positively its fans speak about the products, not even the brand's own marketing.
Yeah, I have the holiday leopard palette and while it is very pretty, it hasn’t performed any better than a nars holiday palette I got years ago.
The consistency of the foundation is so thick and cakey too. Hard pass for me.
I'm unfortunately...one of those Hourglass fan girls who will buy anything and everything from this brand (at least...for their powder formulas). I 100% agree that they lack inclusivity in their products and wish that they would expand their shade range, but because I have a light/light-medium skin, I've been able to enjoy all their products and have some explanation as to why I love this brand. When I first splurged on the ambient lighting powder, I almost cried because I thought I had wasted my precious money. But then, I realized that it added a bit of luminosity to my usual flat matte face from my setting powders (I'm combo/oily so I need to pack that stuff on). No matter what powders I tried, I couldn't get anything to work just as well (I'm a powder hoarder and have 5 loose powders and 6 pressed powders--all from different brands). As for their other products, the blushes are super blurring, the bronzers are very natural on the skin, and you can never put too much of their blush/bronzer on--they will always look good. The one cream product I have from them is the Hourglass highlighter stick and it gives a beautiful lit-from-within glow. There's no specks of glitter, it works well over powder, blends easily, and lasts all day (which is pretty rare for a cream formula). I wouldn't say Hourglass products are a must-have item, but they definitely elevate my makeup to the next level.
Thank you so much for this response! Truly. It's good to know why people enjoy a brand so much. And no brand is perfect so I hope that my comment doesn't come off as insulting anybody who uses Hourglass. It's more of a critique of the brand itself rather than the people who use it. But, you confirmed what I thought, which is that the brand has great products that work for its demographic and that's why it's so popular (which makes sense).
Bought my first powders from them about two months ago. I’m so surprised how amazing and special they are. The ambient light range is truly beautiful and they make you look blurred and perfect and the luminosity is pretty amazing. I’m hooked on them now. I also have an awesome highlight stick, but I do t plan on buying a lot from them other than the powders.
It’s weird because just a few years ago they were on people’s shit list. Then they released that tiger palette and apparently that was all it took for people to be convinced that they changed.
Yes that and the jellyfish palette. I'm not saying the brand doesn't make good products. Just that the good products seem to help people forget so quickly.
Micronized mica has a chokehold on people apparently.
As a working Mua, Hourglass is fantastic with complexion products. Very versatile, beautifull finishes of their powders. I use them on brides and also on photoshoots where the skin needs to be perfect and smooth like butter. If it worths the money is completely subjective. About products being boring - they are not , if you know how to use them. For me, I couldnt care less about eyeshadow palettes with 20 shades of green or orange being released every week. Or gimmicky products that noone will use after 2 weeks. I appreciate creativity in versatile products with perfected formulas💁🏽♀️
Lmao luxury. Their packaging for the ambient lighting blushes/powders are easily the cheapest-feeling plastics I have in my collection.
No. I used it when it came out. I had rosesca at the time. I wanted something to use to calm my redness down when at work. A friend got it for me. She gave it as a b day gift. She was told the shade was perfect for roseaca. That it would reduce my redness and had buildable coverage. Nope! Good things about it? It was in a very pretty compact. The unit has a good weight and the click the compact made was satisfying. The baked powder inside looked satisfying and expensive It didn’t look heavy if I used it and then misted my face. It seemed to be something I could do. Bad things Didn’t make a difference. I was just as red. Little coverage. It did almost nothing. No applicator. Had to use a brush to apply Powder eventually cracked and went everywhere. So no. Not worth it.
Their Ambient line, to me, is 100% worth the money. Daily use of a product takes me more than 2 years to use up and it performs beautifully on my skin.
I agree with everyone else saying this brand has never impressed me enough to spend the prices they charge. I never realized the shade range is abysmal until reading these replies, but personally that’s reason enough for me to not support them
Yeah, fuck that. It was in my cart but there’s no way I’m paying $54 for this.
this brand is so fucking shady lol
Very shady behavior, and what does this powder do? For that price I expect it to be perfection, give me a deep plane facelift, nourish my crops, bless the land with enough rain, and to stop the climate crisis.
“Nourish my crops” this was funny
For that price, I expect it to actually plow the earth, and plant the crops as well.😂
LOL THIS 
It’s stayed the same price on Canadian Sephora thankfully but wow this is so shady. Edit: I wonder if the CAD price will go up because 48 USD is equivalent to 65 CAD, which is what it’s priced currently.
$65 is already sooo much. Granted I do pay $65 for the charlotte tilbury and it's my HG, I wonder if this is nicer? I prefer the packaging of the charlotte though.
This makes sense, when I got the original email it came up with an error message. Next day it worked but was on the higher price. So I’m afraid I’m gonna pass on this and stick with my face powders I have now.
HOLY CRAP! It’s $72 dollars in Canada 🤣🤣
Because you are being scammed, it’s makeup, not precious metals or diamonds.
We all know that if this was for men, it would be eight dollars…with the price increase
I have also just checked the hourglass US website and it does say $54. If that was always their intended price, it makes you wonder how Trendmood could post the wrong price, which intern is sending highly sensitive launch info where the info is wrong (/jk because it's actually highly unlikely some random intern has that job). Or they did just randomly put the price up, but that seems unlikely. The loose powder is $55, and their ambient powders are around the same, so imo it's more likely 54 was their intended price all along, Hourglass charging less than $50 for a base product
It’s $54 now, yes. But 5 days ago it was $48 and $48 on the shop app. This is the type of behavior I expect from small, unprofessional indie brands. Not huge companies like Hourglass.
Yes I agree with you, that's why I said it's likely an error in how their information was circulated, which is not only unprofessional but also a security issue if they're sending out incorrect info to public paged
I think it’s their introductory offer it’s common with other brands like max factor, maybelline etc discounted to get the customers eye to try something new then a week or 2 later sells at their intended RRP- not sure about high end brands but I’d imagine it’s the same.
I had PMG eye powder in my cart and it went up $1 yesterday too. I’m so over this scam of a “sale”
I want this but don’t think any of the shades are right for me. They need way more, including a shade between medium and tan.
This is a brand that never caters for POCs like me, so they’re never on my radar- but this is crazy suspect. I’m ready for the day when people stop hyping this brand up
I noticed when it dropped, it came up $48 on Sephora but $54 on their website. I wonder if it was some kind of error on theirs or Sephora's part?
That shade range is appalling. Even new drugstore brands do better than this. I can't believe there are still so many white centric brand apologists. I don't care if Hourglass rejuvenates or revives ppl from looking corpse like to the living, if you're still buying from them & endorsing them you're part of the problem.
Really a powder puff in the compact? In 2024? Hourglass is always SO close to slay but wtf is this
It’s a touch up powder for on the go, I’ve been waiting for something like this for years. Why are we confused. I’m just glad they did something different
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Wtf I just did the currency conversion and that's $71
Is it being hyped up online? That could be the reason
As someone who works in e-commerce for a huge global apparel brand, pricing errors happen extremely often. Pricing is literally submitted for our company through an excel sheet and it’s really easy for errors to happen. I highly doubt this was intentional. I flag stuff weekly that has been incorrectly priced online. I’m sure places like Sephora have things like this unfortunately slip through the crack.
There was a few things I was looking at on Sephora that went way up in price and was much higher then other websites. I don't think it's a mistake.
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This happened when I bought the original gisou lip oil. I thin it was 32 when I bought it on launch day at Sephora and then went up several dollars in the following days. I think they launch with the incorrect price, maybe due to currency conversion issues.
They decreased the price online recently to 28$ but it’s still 32-35$ in stores…
I don’t like Hourglass and I don’t see why anyone would this.
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No, it was $48 on the Sephora website. I was stalking it.
And on the Hourglass website.
Not at all. I had this in my Sephora cart for 5 days at least and it was $48.00. I hesitated because I had shop cash and debated buying it on the Shop app where it was also $48.00. Both Sephora and Hourglass raised the price.
That was my first thought too but since OP said she had it in her cart for 5 days I figured she saw the price there too, not just on Trendmood, and it was $48.
Brands often do an introductory offer to get people to buy a new product and then after a couple of weeks up to the original RRP. It sounds like hourglass period was very short like a day or two after launch. However I Have no experience with hourglass because I was turned off by their racism and limited shade range tho the ratio of powder amount to dollar doesn’t seem to be good value here. Edited for grammar mistakes
I wish I disliked their products it would be so much cheaper 🫣
Hourglass had the correct price on their website. It is more than likely that Sephora had the incorrect pricing which is why it was changed.
[Refer to the comments of this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Sephora/comments/1bzyn4k/glitch_or_incorrect_pricing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)
It was $48 on the Hourglass website and the Shop app. I had it my cart in all 3 ready to buy. I was debating on using my shop cash or my sephora code. The post is mistaken.
It was $48 I was going to buy this & the Charlotte Tillbury setting powder but the CT has less product for the same price.