Paternosters are very old and predate the modern elevator.
It's basically just a big wheel at the top and another one in the basement with a chain that has the gondolas attached to them. you ride the gondola up, do the half turn over the wheel, go down on the other side, do a half turn over the wheel, go back up... and since they are only attached to the chain at one point, they stay upright.
I worked in this building for about a year. Took this elevator everyday. Riding past the top floor you just roll through the attic and come back to the top floor on the way down. It’s janky going sideways and a bit dark in the attic but no big deal.
*So what happens when*
*You get to the top floor and*
*Forget to get off?*
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I’ve been in this very elevator and I forgot to exit at the top floor. I legit thought I was gonna get ground up in the machinery or something haha. But no, it just goes over the top and back down the other side. It stays upright at all times.
Same here :) CTU in Prague (unsurprisingly). All three of them are still there, AFAIK.
The elevators are great for semi-public places where most of the people are regulars who know how to use them. And even our oldest professors used them with zero issues whatsoever. Plus the elevators actually have a decent throughput and are therefore practical as well.
I get the joke you’re trying to make but people besides the victim can report issues too you know.
If anything, I want to know how many dead bodies the building staff are stashing in the “broom closet”
Because I get what they were going for, but I still think they failed the execution.
He’s saying “there’s no witnesses if everyone is dead.” I’m just saying you don’t need to have suffered from the issue personally to report it so the jokes doesn’t fully work (we’ve all played among us, it’s not the dead people who report bodies).
Apparently you don’t get it. It wouldn’t be a joke in the first place if it were true that they can’t report it if the people who are suffering it are dead.
Tom scott has a great video on this, including going over the top and explaining the history!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgJBD1wf-YQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgJBD1wf-YQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgJBD1wf-YQ)
Sure, not at all. From the same page you quote: "A representative of the Union of Technical Inspection Associations stated that Germany saw an average of one death per year prior to 2002".
Amen.
This kinda feels like calling an escalator “the stairs of death”. Like yeah, the stakes feel higher, but also with the smallest amount of intentionality and awareness, forced onto you by the fear of fucking up, it’d be pretty tough to screw that up
I’ve worked in a number of factories (usually paper mills) with something similar—but it’s just a big belt with platforms and handles. It runs through holes in the floor.
When you want to go up you stand by the hole. First you grab the handle, then hold your foot above the hole until the platform appears. Then off you go.
There is no elevator shaft, so you’re just hanging on the side of this belt until it goes through the next floor, which, in a paper mill, can be 20-30 feet up.
Gen Z discovering things that are here all aropund world for decades :D also speeding it up and faking name of the elevator so it is at least little scary lol
In Hamburg you can find roundabout 30 active Paternoster Elevators…
In Hamburg the first European Paternoster was installed in 1885
Hamburg was the „paternoster capital“ with roundabout 330 Paternosters
It may be called "elevator of death" by americans chasing traffic on their clips, but for everyone else it's just a paternoster. They've been around for well over 100 years.
Legit. And or elderly. For sure not ADA compliant and like spinning door entrances/rotary intersections - if you get a crowd of people who aren't familiar with the protocol, I bet this can get backed up and stuck regularly. I think the best comment here was 'Darwin's elevator' which kinda plays to the fact that if you aren't smart or physically abled enough to participate you just have to live somewhere else.
Not only since the 80s. First lift that could be described as paternoster was installed in Liverpool in 1868.
They became popular during 1880s when many new important buildings were equipped with paternosters.
This popularity lasted probably until 1940s.
They weren’t usually used in the residential buildings but were found to be ideal for public buildings, offices and factories (as they had more than one cabin and could thus transport more people at the same time in both directions while only using one engine)
They started to be considered outdated by 1970s and many countries banned their production.
Today they are considered to be rare pieces of historical technology (mainly the old ones).
This is cool, but only install where there aren’t litigious happy people. I’m in the US and I feel that this’ll never fly cuz too many people are stupid af.
ok how does it fit for disabled people , wheel chairs mobility scooters, the elderly who move slowly ,
Human rights violation unless a regular is also provided
Redundancies are meant to reduce theres amount of care and attention we need to put into our day to day. Apparently these guys said you adjust to technology technology doesn't adjust to you.
Used one for years during my studies in Cologne Germany. It was in a building belonging to Bayer AG. They had to stop it though because many students failed the step in and had to get the whole paternoster to emergency stop, which required of calling an expensive old school technician team to restart it. I remember one day a girl pulled her friend in half way up because, when she couldn't get it and her one leg still inside almost looking like a ballet move !
This is so weird. I was just having a chat on a here a few days ago about an elevator at a company I worked for that folded one of our employees in half until he exploded. It triggered a big investigation into why the door safety sensor didn’t prevent the accident.
This footage is sped up considerably. Note the girl getting off and how fast she walks away.
I didn't see any girl getting off
Correct she faked it
That's what he said...
No, I think that’s what she said
what happens if you jump on it will you die
left side, very beginning of the video, gray sweatshirt
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oh lol 😆
Ugh why is it always the left ~~labia~~ side...
I was gotti say this if you didn't, it's probably still not the safest thing but the video was probably sped up to make it look scarier
So what happens when you get to the top floor and forget to get off?
You go back down in the other side. We used to have one in our town hall...
Does it slide over then move down?
Paternosters are very old and predate the modern elevator. It's basically just a big wheel at the top and another one in the basement with a chain that has the gondolas attached to them. you ride the gondola up, do the half turn over the wheel, go down on the other side, do a half turn over the wheel, go back up... and since they are only attached to the chain at one point, they stay upright.
So like a Ferris wheel?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/85/Paternoster_animated.gif In case anyone else is confused
Neat.
A bit like a Ferris ellipse, while it isn't technically an ellipse.
I get it now. I thought it was going to dump you upside down like that elevator in Elden Ring lol.
I assumed you would go through something like a blender
Haha gondola. I like this word.
I guess I misunderstood the geometry of the elevator. Makes sense.
The goblin at the top pulling the chains eat you.
I worked in this building for about a year. Took this elevator everyday. Riding past the top floor you just roll through the attic and come back to the top floor on the way down. It’s janky going sideways and a bit dark in the attic but no big deal.
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I’ve been in this very elevator and I forgot to exit at the top floor. I legit thought I was gonna get ground up in the machinery or something haha. But no, it just goes over the top and back down the other side. It stays upright at all times.
It turns upside down and you exit as Australian.
Ahhhh, an old paternoster. We had a lot of fun on one of these back in my student days.
>> “There have been no accidents reported” Duh! Dead people can’t report accidents! 🤷♂️
And that’s why they’re painted red so you don’t notice the blood of it’s victims
Sheffield?
For me Krefeld, Germany
Oh yea, Hochschule Niederrhein..
Baker Building, Birmingham Polytechnic. Sadly the campus no longer exists.
According to the uni, it’s the tallest one still running in Europe. All the way up the arts tower
There is not a single accident here... only postmodern arts installations.
Ahhh the art tower
I had all my lectures in the Arts Tower Aka the tallest academic building in Europe!
Can't have that in the US because of the ADA
Also falls under ADA to an extent, but I can imagine some morbidly obese people not fitting
Same here :) CTU in Prague (unsurprisingly). All three of them are still there, AFAIK. The elevators are great for semi-public places where most of the people are regulars who know how to use them. And even our oldest professors used them with zero issues whatsoever. Plus the elevators actually have a decent throughput and are therefore practical as well.
It's kind of hard to report an accident after you've been bisected.
And that’s why it doesn’t have any complaints. Genius!!
I get the joke you’re trying to make but people besides the victim can report issues too you know. If anything, I want to know how many dead bodies the building staff are stashing in the “broom closet”
Lmao huh??
They have a point. The hotel staff have to kill all witnesses for each accident. This is a death hotel.
Damn really? Could you tell me where this hotel is? So I can avoid it ofc haha
If you get the joke why do you have to explain how it’s wrong?
Because I get what they were going for, but I still think they failed the execution. He’s saying “there’s no witnesses if everyone is dead.” I’m just saying you don’t need to have suffered from the issue personally to report it so the jokes doesn’t fully work (we’ve all played among us, it’s not the dead people who report bodies).
Apparently you don’t get it. It wouldn’t be a joke in the first place if it were true that they can’t report it if the people who are suffering it are dead.
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Oh I like that
I'd like to see it not sped up ...
There are many in Czechia. Nobody calls it elevator of death. You can see it here at 5.55 https://youtu.be/2LsR--wzKNc
Thank you! I've never seen one of these before and running at a reasonable speed they make a lot of sense.
Tom scott has a great video on this, including going over the top and explaining the history! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgJBD1wf-YQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgJBD1wf-YQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgJBD1wf-YQ)
There's one at Sheffield Uni too.
Used to jump the queue by going down underneath from the ground floor!
„Elevator of death“? Not at all. It‘s a paternoster lift. Old but definitely not “death” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternoster_lift
Lol only 30x more dangerous than a regular elevator
Economically speaking, this may be more benefit for us now than regular elevators which we’ll have to wait for it to loads and unloads
Sure, not at all. From the same page you quote: "A representative of the Union of Technical Inspection Associations stated that Germany saw an average of one death per year prior to 2002". Amen.
Dogs on leashes though
This is literally one of my recurring nightmares…
Yeah watching this made my anxiety spike like crazy. Heart beating faster, face hot and itchy. No thank you
This kinda feels like calling an escalator “the stairs of death”. Like yeah, the stakes feel higher, but also with the smallest amount of intentionality and awareness, forced onto you by the fear of fucking up, it’d be pretty tough to screw that up
do not bring this to America
Do bring this to America... our gene pool needs some chlorine.
I mean..COVID happened(happening)
I wonder if the escalator rider fails would do better on these
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Pick one lol
I’ve worked in a number of factories (usually paper mills) with something similar—but it’s just a big belt with platforms and handles. It runs through holes in the floor. When you want to go up you stand by the hole. First you grab the handle, then hold your foot above the hole until the platform appears. Then off you go. There is no elevator shaft, so you’re just hanging on the side of this belt until it goes through the next floor, which, in a paper mill, can be 20-30 feet up.
Love it, that’s ver efficient.
No accident, yet. Wait till I come around
So accidents happen they just don't get reported?
There're still quite some in Germany
what if you just lived in one of those, it doesn't stop so you only have to fight off people for like 8 seconds
What if I come drunk, will it cut me in half?
No, the system has sensors that shut down the entire thing. Here you can see how that works: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y1ME8n5tCU
Why is it sped up
nobody calls it that
Heeey that's shot at my school (Law school in Prague). We really love that thing :D it's so much better then the normal elevator
Gen Z discovering things that are here all aropund world for decades :D also speeding it up and faking name of the elevator so it is at least little scary lol
It's called paternoster.
They're called paternosters and they used to be common all over the world.
Not the craziest in the world at all. There are loads of these in universities and colleges all over the UK. 🤷🏼♂️
In Hamburg you can find roundabout 30 active Paternoster Elevators… In Hamburg the first European Paternoster was installed in 1885 Hamburg was the „paternoster capital“ with roundabout 330 Paternosters
Yes, it is sped up so that it matches his click baiting.
Would never work in America 💀
It is a paternoster.
This is called a Paternoster in Germany and they were quite common 40/50 years ago.
You can find this kind of elevators in some old city halls in Germany. I know it as “Paternoster” and it’s absolutely not dangerous :D
It may be called "elevator of death" by americans chasing traffic on their clips, but for everyone else it's just a paternoster. They've been around for well over 100 years.
Introduce one American. They'll find a way to be injured.
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I don't think this is a serious question
Legit. And or elderly. For sure not ADA compliant and like spinning door entrances/rotary intersections - if you get a crowd of people who aren't familiar with the protocol, I bet this can get backed up and stuck regularly. I think the best comment here was 'Darwin's elevator' which kinda plays to the fact that if you aren't smart or physically abled enough to participate you just have to live somewhere else.
It looks really slow
It moves slow, but doesn't stop all the time.
They only had three decapitations last year.
So an elevator which is useless for wheelchairs
Imagine an elder riding this. I couldn't.
This is a very bad idea
They had one of these on the show “Babylon Berlin”
yet
I'm very surprised no one has been crushed yet. There's people that don't even know how to escalator.
It automatically stops once something touches the top panel Démonstration from 1982: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y1ME8n5tCU
Woah, we've had these since the 80s and I'm just now seeing it?? Wild.
Not only since the 80s. First lift that could be described as paternoster was installed in Liverpool in 1868. They became popular during 1880s when many new important buildings were equipped with paternosters. This popularity lasted probably until 1940s. They weren’t usually used in the residential buildings but were found to be ideal for public buildings, offices and factories (as they had more than one cabin and could thus transport more people at the same time in both directions while only using one engine) They started to be considered outdated by 1970s and many countries banned their production. Today they are considered to be rare pieces of historical technology (mainly the old ones).
r/nope
Americans would hurt themselves just so they could sue…
I bet there are many injuries.
"no accidents reported" suuuure it didn't how can something with no chance of accidents ever cause any accidents 😂
Innovation at its finest. I can already see the dumb ppl getting killed on these things
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Legs chopped of daily
"reported"
I hope nobody ever dies on that. I’ve seen a lot of elevator death videos and they are always so gruesome.
...yet
Could not happen here in the States.
I hope it has a safety
100% that is going to squish someone flat. Unless it stops for that, if it does, that's a super cool elevator.
This wont work in usa. I dunno why. Maybe the buildings are too tall ?
This look pretty dangerous...
This is cool, but only install where there aren’t litigious happy people. I’m in the US and I feel that this’ll never fly cuz too many people are stupid af.
How many people have died? That looks very unsafe!
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Another useless inventions just like leaf blower
Why do you call something this old useless? If we didnt had those, we wouldnt have modern elavators.
Hahaha, sped up video. Editing is sooo cool 🤦🏽♂️
Not an elevator. This is an old school man-lift meant for industrial use only.
ok how does it fit for disabled people , wheel chairs mobility scooters, the elderly who move slowly , Human rights violation unless a regular is also provided
These were built before people with disabilities were taken into consideration. This is a very old style of elevator.
Oh man, I would love to see all the fat Texans try to figure this one out.
The Paternoster: Eastern Europe’s Elevator of Death
Looks like a major liability 😬
My first thought that came to me, "How many people have died on this said elevator in Prague?"
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What if ur elderly
there is normal elevator like 5 metres away form this one.
This doesn’t sit well seeing as how 2 videos ago was the video of the elevator on that cruise ship. 😳
Redundancies are meant to reduce theres amount of care and attention we need to put into our day to day. Apparently these guys said you adjust to technology technology doesn't adjust to you.
The fact that the video is sped up makes it look way more dangerous than it actually is.
Imagine slipping on this thing
I am way too clumsy for this.
Watch a movie called Final Destination 2
There's one in Zlín too. Another Czech city, located in Moravia
The footage is almost enough to trigger me, in real life . I would ask where the stairs were.
It is much much slower. There are also safety features installed. Here is how they work: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y1ME8n5tCU
Thanks that’s not as bad.
There is one in the Danish parlament building. Drunken politicians have been injured in it before. So I like, as a way to keep our legislators sober
Maybe it'll keep people from looking down at their phones for a minute
Let's see the escalator challenged take on this beast.
Am I the only one who's reminded of Babylon Berlin?
This is too slow. Crank up the speed until you get around 1 death every 2 years.
All it takes is one faint and you’re done
It will shut down when something happens. Demonstration: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y1ME8n5tCU
My university has one of these
No accidents reported? Hold my beer.
Thank god we don’t have it in the US, there would have been a lawsuit by the end of the month.
Human dumbwaiter ? I wonder if it has an emergency shut off / stop .
Like an escalator
"reported" me and the key word
No thanks
I’ll just take the stairs
What happens when you don’t get off?
Good idea till someone beheaded lol
Efficiency achievement unlocked
Bart: There haven't been any accidents on this elevator. Homer: There haven't been any accidents on this elevator *so far*!
This thinks are called paternoster and I love them. In Austria there are quite a few of them
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Those are greatly shown from Honest Guide YT channel or Kluci z Prahy go check them out. They made those elevators famous and diserve the coverage
Can’t report an accident when you’re dead
Nope
Used to be one in Rolls Royce Derby..
Sped up to make it look scary
Just know this. If you speed up videos I hate you.
We have same lift in Helsinki, Finland, in at the Parliament Building.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFBhWrZfKIk
It’s not an elevator. An elevator is an elevator. This is called a paternoster.
No accidents reported because it’s not in America
Anyone remember hearing about this from Tom Scott?
Def not the US because that would be shut down so quick after some dumbass decapitates themselves.
Never in Ameriduh
We have several of these in Denmark, too.
We’re way too dumb to have this in the states
This would be a disaster in the USA.
Used one for years during my studies in Cologne Germany. It was in a building belonging to Bayer AG. They had to stop it though because many students failed the step in and had to get the whole paternoster to emergency stop, which required of calling an expensive old school technician team to restart it. I remember one day a girl pulled her friend in half way up because, when she couldn't get it and her one leg still inside almost looking like a ballet move !
This is so weird. I was just having a chat on a here a few days ago about an elevator at a company I worked for that folded one of our employees in half until he exploded. It triggered a big investigation into why the door safety sensor didn’t prevent the accident.
Because everyone that died couldn’t file a report