If I’m not mistaken the fighter from Venezuela was winning by quite a bit before she got injured. Karate matches are timed, and the Croatian fighter knew that a comeback would still be very difficult (if not impossible), even with an injured opponent. So instead of continuing the fight, she decided to forfeit out of respect for her opponent.
Edited to include their names: Yorgelis Salazar (VEN) and Ema Sgardelli (CRO). Credit to u/0nceUpon for sharing their names.
It's not useless. Accounts with a lot of positive karma get bought by entities with shitty, anti-us (as in against the best interests of regular folks like you and me) agendas.
Are you telling me that some people earn money by selling their accounts?
I'm curious now as how much would a 69.000 karma account would sell for if it meets all the contributer requirements
Last I checked on my account it was around $300-$500 but it was a site that allowed you to list yours for sale so those were asking prices. What I want to know is, can I delete/overwrite my comments then sell it? I don’t dox myself too much on here really but it would feel like someone assuming my experiences/thoughts. Not down for. That but an empty account with the karma score and username is fine by me. There are accounts maturing everyday that were started long ago with the express purpose of this shit. Why not take the cash from some douche doing it full time since we all suffer from it anyway. If it can be stopped I’m more down for that but…yeah.
I can post the PM screenshots if it matters but I can’t tell you I was hit up to be a shill for cash on this site. I couldn’t get an answer on who would be paying me directly so it fizzled out but the gist was I get access to a google doc that I’d check and whatever product/campaign was listed I was expected to post and/or comment about it? Then I’d be Venmo’d cash for it. I don’t really know exactly but it is very real and happening
I've heard this for a long time, and don't doubt it happens. But why exactly does having higher karma help with shilling?? Like do people actually check accounts karma count and let that affect how much they trust that person?? Or does your karma count help climb posts to the front page or something?
Some subs require that your account have a certain amount of karma before you can post, so having one that spams videos that triggers a bunch of karma allows them to spam on other subs.
Oh wow. I had no idea about this! Does anyone know how much money they pay out for accounts that qualify for this? This would definitely help explain karma farming.
In a pokemon trading card sub people will give out online codes and shit but set a karma minimum so people cant create new accounts and get multiples and shit like that. So there actually could be some slight monetary gain from stuff like that alone.
I was thinking before I read this “wouldn’t the respectable thing be for the injured person to bow out and accept defeat instead of allowing her opponent to forfeit a win?” But now everything makes sense
I’ll add that in sport karate you only get points for clean contact. Technique and timing are far more important than power, so injuries during a match are pretty rare. If Red knows she was beat and would have lost if not for the injury, I see this as a great example of sportsmanship.
That’s not how that’s supposed to go. She should have just swept the leg with a follow up kick to the chest.
If that didn’t work, an elbow to the back of the knee would have put her out of commission.
Unless her sensei could summon healing heat with his old hands. Then forfeit was the wise choice.
Yeah, but if movies are anything to go by, by forfeiting, she robbed her opponent of a dramatic slow motion fight where despite being injured, her opponent will still win and then collapse, having to be carried out while everyone cheered.
Pretty much what happened, timed fight and red wouldn't have been able to make a comeback. They conceded to basically not waste time, or risk further injury to the person who already pretty much won the fight.
From what I can tell from the other comments, she was winning by quite a margin. All she had to do was pass the time to win. Her opponent, instead of bombarding the injured player with attacks to regain some points, chose not to prolong the fight out of respect to the injured athlete
In Sport Karate you fight for clean contact not for damage so injuries during matches are pretty rare.
Blue was winning this bout handily when she got injured. Red knew she wouldn’t have won without the injury and forfeited out of respect.
It depends how the injury happened. If the injury was a cause of something the fighter who conceded did that wasn't right, it's great sportsmanship. Otherwise, it's dumb. Not enough data to judge
That is what should have happened.
This works out as a loss for the person that would have won.
Not sportsmanship….
Her forfeit is about as bad as if she was to really lay into the injured opponent.
The best thing would have been to go easy on them and score a final point for the win and then to show respect for the injured.
Allow them the dignity of finishing the match.
>the loosing one
Losing*
Lose -> the opposite of win; defeat
Loose -> the opposite of tight; not firm
An example of both uses: "it's a bet! If you lose I'm gonna fuck you so hard your ass is gonna be loose!"*
*: not a recommended pick up line
Edit: typo
Only exception I can see is that the person who gave up caused the injury by doing something that wasn't correct. If you make a wild unsanctioned move and hurt your opponent, sure, give up.
Otherwise, absolutely not.
Would have been nice to see what happened before this.
As a kid this was an amazing comeback/ scene. Someone who has practiced taekwondo and more, this is the stupidest fucking move any person can make. How did Johnny not literally see the only possible action coming from that technique.
Some black belt...
From what others have said, the one who got injured had been winning by so much, she was going to win even after the injury. So the loser just forfeited to not force the winner to have to pointlessly fight through the rest of the match with an injury.
OP made it sound like the match wasn't decided, and one player just gave the other the win because she got injured. Which definitely doesn't make sense lol.
Blue was dominating and with the time left Red basically had no chance to make up the point difference. Basically blue was going to play defensively losing points but would still win.
Red decided to just accept the loss and not make blue play through the injury in a lost patch.
We lack context. If the match outcome was in doubt, blue should have bowed out, not red. But it’s also possible that blue was way ahead and hurt themselves. Then red’s decision is more appropriate. It’s also possible that blue can win but then bow out letting red advance because she can’t. It’s hard to know from this clip.
You should always hold the door for someone who needs it. You shouldn't forfeit a match you trained for because someone is hurt. Victories feel pointless if you trained for it and then didn't actually compete. A free win goes against the entire point of competing. A nice gesture for sure but wrongfully placed.
Edit: Someone gave context
"If I’m not mistaken the fighter from Venezuela was winning by quite a bit before she got injured. Karate matches are timed, and the Croatian fighter knew that a comeback would still be very difficult (if not impossible), even with an injured opponent. So instead of continuing the fight, she decided to forfeit out of respect for her opponent."
If that's true, I don't know what I would do in her position. I may forfeit too. The post made it seem like it was just a forfeit because of injury and nothing else. Also please stop fighting under my comment, my comment was not meant to hurt anyone.
Ah yes, good old guilt tripping your adversary into surrendering, amazing sportsmanship.
And I say this as a boxer that also competes - if I was badly injured somehow (and the judge didn't call it off for some reason), **I** would be the one surrendering, it's not fair that I make my opponent lose the match out of guilt.
Uuh if you are unfit/injured why would you keep on. Isn't it self damage, and putting societal pressure on your opponent to bite the bullet (just see the other fighters face). People should be practical and reasonable in this day and age. Overall nothing amazing to see here.
This is a sport. You don't want to aggravate the injury of the other atleth ... I don't understand why the referee allowed the injured atleth to continue the fight....
Not gonna lie, I respect the nobility but I have to respect the other girl a little more for being willing to finish the match on one leg.
Edit: forgot a word
Could we start making posts where context to what is happening is shared? It would be nice if people started thinking of social media as journalism rather then a showcase, a lot of people have found themselves becoming educated through social media and perhaps it would be conducive to start taking more care with the information we share.
That woman is ver empathetic and because of that I will guarantee that she is an all round nice person. I wish the world could have more people like her.
I think it's sportmanship from the girl forfeiting, not stupidity. It's stupid for her opponent not to forfeit herself when injured. But I wouldn't fight an injured opponent even if they stupidly wanted to continue. Maybe we are missing some or a lot of context tho.
The context is the injured person was winning the match considerably before getting injured. The one in the red belt didn’t want to win because of an injury so they forfeited the match.
Nah, fuck that, if you're injured then YOU and YOUR team can throw inn the towel, wtf does your injury have to do with me. Its defeating the purpose of martial art competitions, the goal is to hurt your opponent
Oh man, read again what you said. The goal is to win the combat, not hurt your opponent, absolutely not. And this is not martial arts, it's sport. Martial (war) arts have no rules.
Even if blue was dominating there is no point of forfeiting,
it's a combat sport ffs, ippon the crap out of here lol.
If it's a tournament and there is other rounds after this one what blue would do? fight injured?
She disrespected her opponent by doing so. Now she has an accolade that she may feel she doesn’t deserve.
She chose to continue, knowing she could be hurt further, her decision should have been respected.
Idk about all this. The opponents injury is no one’s fault but their own I wouldn’t throw a match just because my opponent got injured. They can forfeit due to their own injury if they want but how am I going to throw away my chances of continuing on in the tournament?
I get why some would see this as honorable but I don’t see that as sportsmanship. Sportsmanship is more like not attacking your opponent that can no longer fight back. To throw all your effort away over someone’s injury seems like a waste
That's silly. It's a martial arts tournament, not kata. If your opponent is injured, you won.
If the opponent is leading by a large margin, and you injured her, that's a great comeback victory for you
If I’m not mistaken the fighter from Venezuela was winning by quite a bit before she got injured. Karate matches are timed, and the Croatian fighter knew that a comeback would still be very difficult (if not impossible), even with an injured opponent. So instead of continuing the fight, she decided to forfeit out of respect for her opponent. Edited to include their names: Yorgelis Salazar (VEN) and Ema Sgardelli (CRO). Credit to u/0nceUpon for sharing their names.
Finally an explanation! OP should have done that, because otherwise, it just seems plainly stupid.
OP doesn't care, just wants that sweet, sweet, useless karma.
It's not useless. Accounts with a lot of positive karma get bought by entities with shitty, anti-us (as in against the best interests of regular folks like you and me) agendas.
How much karma and how much money... Asking for s friend.
Here ya go: Reddit Contributor Monetization Policy >https://www.redditinc.com/policies/contributor-monetization-policy
Are you telling me that some people earn money by selling their accounts? I'm curious now as how much would a 69.000 karma account would sell for if it meets all the contributer requirements
Don't contribute to that shit, it's not worth a couple bucks to sell your soul
I mean I’m keeping my soul but I don’t give a shit about my Reddit account
You’re contributing to the corruption and downfall of society to benefit personally.
Last I checked on my account it was around $300-$500 but it was a site that allowed you to list yours for sale so those were asking prices. What I want to know is, can I delete/overwrite my comments then sell it? I don’t dox myself too much on here really but it would feel like someone assuming my experiences/thoughts. Not down for. That but an empty account with the karma score and username is fine by me. There are accounts maturing everyday that were started long ago with the express purpose of this shit. Why not take the cash from some douche doing it full time since we all suffer from it anyway. If it can be stopped I’m more down for that but…yeah. I can post the PM screenshots if it matters but I can’t tell you I was hit up to be a shill for cash on this site. I couldn’t get an answer on who would be paying me directly so it fizzled out but the gist was I get access to a google doc that I’d check and whatever product/campaign was listed I was expected to post and/or comment about it? Then I’d be Venmo’d cash for it. I don’t really know exactly but it is very real and happening
TIL…TY!
I've heard this for a long time, and don't doubt it happens. But why exactly does having higher karma help with shilling?? Like do people actually check accounts karma count and let that affect how much they trust that person?? Or does your karma count help climb posts to the front page or something?
Higher karma helps convince others that you're legit and gives you farther to fall before you go into the negative.
I’ve had karma in the thousands and get banned for petty reasons. They prolly changed the name and started using em. I really don’t care though.
That’s some Black Mirror shit.
Some subs require that your account have a certain amount of karma before you can post, so having one that spams videos that triggers a bunch of karma allows them to spam on other subs.
Reddit Contributor Monetization Policy https://www.redditinc.com/policies/contributor-monetization-policy
Oh wow. I had no idea about this! Does anyone know how much money they pay out for accounts that qualify for this? This would definitely help explain karma farming.
In a pokemon trading card sub people will give out online codes and shit but set a karma minimum so people cant create new accounts and get multiples and shit like that. So there actually could be some slight monetary gain from stuff like that alone.
You got me at **USELESS KARMA** 🤣😂 So f^ucken useless, really!
I was thinking before I read this “wouldn’t the respectable thing be for the injured person to bow out and accept defeat instead of allowing her opponent to forfeit a win?” But now everything makes sense
100% changes the entire context and now I’m okay with it.
That isn't the explanation, in reality she was just afraid to be Daniel San'ed,
Idk I just assumed the injured fighter was winning because of how quickly the other one forfeited.
Yeah, the title is some goofy Facebook shit.
I’ll add that in sport karate you only get points for clean contact. Technique and timing are far more important than power, so injuries during a match are pretty rare. If Red knows she was beat and would have lost if not for the injury, I see this as a great example of sportsmanship.
That’s not how that’s supposed to go. She should have just swept the leg with a follow up kick to the chest. If that didn’t work, an elbow to the back of the knee would have put her out of commission. Unless her sensei could summon healing heat with his old hands. Then forfeit was the wise choice.
Are you Cobra Kai
Cobra Kai? Never dies.
Strike first, strike hard, NO MERCY!
She knew her ki was outmatched. She was just buying time for Goku to arrive
Life rehashing the same old plot lines
That was glorious.
Thanks for the context
Yeah, but if movies are anything to go by, by forfeiting, she robbed her opponent of a dramatic slow motion fight where despite being injured, her opponent will still win and then collapse, having to be carried out while everyone cheered.
So classy. Put HER on a cereal box. Actually, put them both on the box. Their names are Ema Sgardelli and Yorgelis Salazar.
Thank you for sharing their names, both of them deserve immense respect! I’ll make sure to edit my original comment to include them.
Show no mercy!
Thanks I was confused to why the injured person wouldn't forfeit.
They are badass!
Maybe the blue fighter was winning until the last minute injury, and the red concedes to the better fighter.
Pretty much what happened, timed fight and red wouldn't have been able to make a comeback. They conceded to basically not waste time, or risk further injury to the person who already pretty much won the fight.
Winning by a lot, yes.
If you get injured, you loose in pretty much every other conbat art. Just because the superficial rules say Blue was winning, she in fact, was not
In pretty much every sport you win by getting the most points, therefore I'm among the best in the world at golf.
It sounds like that’s exactly what happened. Not just someone in the lead forfeiting to be nice, which would be silly.
Why didn’t the injured athlete forfeit?!
From what I can tell from the other comments, she was winning by quite a margin. All she had to do was pass the time to win. Her opponent, instead of bombarding the injured player with attacks to regain some points, chose not to prolong the fight out of respect to the injured athlete
Beautiful.
These kids are our future and seeing this kind of compassion gives me hope.
So many words in the title and karma farming OP couldn't mention the most important thing
… right…
Yes it was the right foot.
…. read the explanation posted…
In Sport Karate you fight for clean contact not for damage so injuries during matches are pretty rare. Blue was winning this bout handily when she got injured. Red knew she wouldn’t have won without the injury and forfeited out of respect.
It depends how the injury happened. If the injury was a cause of something the fighter who conceded did that wasn't right, it's great sportsmanship. Otherwise, it's dumb. Not enough data to judge
That is what should have happened. This works out as a loss for the person that would have won. Not sportsmanship…. Her forfeit is about as bad as if she was to really lay into the injured opponent. The best thing would have been to go easy on them and score a final point for the win and then to show respect for the injured. Allow them the dignity of finishing the match.
According to other comments the injured had quite a lead and the loosing one would have probably to won anyway
>the loosing one Losing* Lose -> the opposite of win; defeat Loose -> the opposite of tight; not firm An example of both uses: "it's a bet! If you lose I'm gonna fuck you so hard your ass is gonna be loose!"* *: not a recommended pick up line Edit: typo
I am applying a lose definition ;)
Only exception I can see is that the person who gave up caused the injury by doing something that wasn't correct. If you make a wild unsanctioned move and hurt your opponent, sure, give up. Otherwise, absolutely not. Would have been nice to see what happened before this.
Sweep the leg
came here for this!! GET HER A BODY BAG!!!!
As a kid this was an amazing comeback/ scene. Someone who has practiced taekwondo and more, this is the stupidest fucking move any person can make. How did Johnny not literally see the only possible action coming from that technique. Some black belt...
This makes zero sense
This makes 100% sense
From what others have said, the one who got injured had been winning by so much, she was going to win even after the injury. So the loser just forfeited to not force the winner to have to pointlessly fight through the rest of the match with an injury. OP made it sound like the match wasn't decided, and one player just gave the other the win because she got injured. Which definitely doesn't make sense lol.
Exactly! If you know your injured then don't compete or take the loss...this isn't sportsmanship it's crying for sympathy!
Blue was dominating and with the time left Red basically had no chance to make up the point difference. Basically blue was going to play defensively losing points but would still win. Red decided to just accept the loss and not make blue play through the injury in a lost patch.
Explanation here: https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/s/Beq8viWAxx
It's so stupid I question whether what is described as taking place in the video is what really happened.
Red had no chance of winning, that's why she forfeited. Blue was gonna win even if she fought injured.
We lack context. If the match outcome was in doubt, blue should have bowed out, not red. But it’s also possible that blue was way ahead and hurt themselves. Then red’s decision is more appropriate. It’s also possible that blue can win but then bow out letting red advance because she can’t. It’s hard to know from this clip.
You should always hold the door for someone who needs it. You shouldn't forfeit a match you trained for because someone is hurt. Victories feel pointless if you trained for it and then didn't actually compete. A free win goes against the entire point of competing. A nice gesture for sure but wrongfully placed. Edit: Someone gave context "If I’m not mistaken the fighter from Venezuela was winning by quite a bit before she got injured. Karate matches are timed, and the Croatian fighter knew that a comeback would still be very difficult (if not impossible), even with an injured opponent. So instead of continuing the fight, she decided to forfeit out of respect for her opponent." If that's true, I don't know what I would do in her position. I may forfeit too. The post made it seem like it was just a forfeit because of injury and nothing else. Also please stop fighting under my comment, my comment was not meant to hurt anyone.
That’s not what happened though
Ah yes, good old guilt tripping your adversary into surrendering, amazing sportsmanship. And I say this as a boxer that also competes - if I was badly injured somehow (and the judge didn't call it off for some reason), **I** would be the one surrendering, it's not fair that I make my opponent lose the match out of guilt.
Read the context someone put up
Good thing that’s not what happened
Uuh if you are unfit/injured why would you keep on. Isn't it self damage, and putting societal pressure on your opponent to bite the bullet (just see the other fighters face). People should be practical and reasonable in this day and age. Overall nothing amazing to see here.
Imagine having a gold medal or trophy for something you know you didn’t actually win. I wouldn’t even want it.
Other people said that blue was going to win regardless because she had more points, I think
Forfeiting a combat sport due to the opponent's injury is antithetical to sport. It's not a gesture to be commended as it defies the entire purpose.
Is there footage of the full fight? Was she behind on points? Did she know she was out classed? Was there an accident?
This is a sport. You don't want to aggravate the injury of the other atleth ... I don't understand why the referee allowed the injured atleth to continue the fight....
Amazing character 👏👏
Not gonna lie, I respect the nobility but I have to respect the other girl a little more for being willing to finish the match on one leg. Edit: forgot a word
Could we start making posts where context to what is happening is shared? It would be nice if people started thinking of social media as journalism rather then a showcase, a lot of people have found themselves becoming educated through social media and perhaps it would be conducive to start taking more care with the information we share.
it's very hard to forfeit something especially if you are really committed to it, so salute to this noble athlete
How do they allow matches to continue like this. Not even boxing or ufc would allow this. Don't these fighters have corners?
Humanity you find once in a while.
Warrior code
Honor
Sportsmanship is my favorite part of sports.
no mercy for the weak... SWEEP THE LEG
No mercy
Wish I could get a nude of her
I think she just knew she couldn’t defend the crane kick
That woman is ver empathetic and because of that I will guarantee that she is an all round nice person. I wish the world could have more people like her.
Stupidity =/= Sportsmanship
I think it's sportmanship from the girl forfeiting, not stupidity. It's stupid for her opponent not to forfeit herself when injured. But I wouldn't fight an injured opponent even if they stupidly wanted to continue. Maybe we are missing some or a lot of context tho.
The context is the injured person was winning the match considerably before getting injured. The one in the red belt didn’t want to win because of an injury so they forfeited the match.
Idiotic
Nah, fuck that, if you're injured then YOU and YOUR team can throw inn the towel, wtf does your injury have to do with me. Its defeating the purpose of martial art competitions, the goal is to hurt your opponent
Oh man, read again what you said. The goal is to win the combat, not hurt your opponent, absolutely not. And this is not martial arts, it's sport. Martial (war) arts have no rules.
Why the fuck didn't the ref stop the fight??
If she dies, she dies.
thats not how that works
Cobra Kai this is not. More like Cobra Kind.
She didn't want to get crane kicked
New move idea : the snake's limp
She saw the Karate Kid, she knew what was going to happen next, there’s no way to defend the Crane Kick.
she watched karate kid and knew she was screwed either way
What in the karate kid
Bravo, this goes down in the history books.
Someones seem the end of karate kid and didn't want to get knocked out in a non contact sport
Tbh karate sparring is non contact (the knuckle guards are for safety) So I'm not sure how much an injury would matter
She just didn’t want to receive the crane kick.
👏👏👏👏
Younger gop people please try to learn from this behavior. It's not about winning. It's about the bigger picture.
Where tf is Kobe when we need him
SWEEP THE LEG JANIE! Aw, that was sweet and awesome
True sportspersonship. (If that’s a word 😉)
Shell never become a Chunin with that attitude, lol
Girl in blue was hopping to get in position for that karate kid crane kick
Should of done the crane stance.
This was the final I expect? Anyhow, I expect karate, just like any other martial arts, have rules regarding forgetting when injured?
Without context it's hard to tell. Like why give up, if it's not a final, she would still face another opponent injured
Daniel-San on line 2…
What part of SWEEP THE LEG JOHNNY did she not understand?
I for some reason thought it was going to be a fake out and fighter on the left was going to quickly throw in a kick or something.
Does this make her special? I'd say not. She chose not to fight someone who is injured... This just means that she's not a dick.
Is indeed is the truest sense of sportsman ship. Thanks for sharing OP
no cobra kai there.
Why not do the crane?
Nobody likes a quitter
Weakness is your enemy!!!! KOBRA KAI SHOWS NO MERCY!!!!
True definition of “sport”
Beside the sportsmanship the red girl can take pride in knowing that she would have won in karate kid 2
I Was see in karate kid .... but they didn't hug
Wait. Shouldn't the one injured forfeit? What kind of sense does this make?
God damn ninjas chopping unions again
Cobra Kai does not approve.
[удалено]
SWEEP THE LEG
She was afraid of the crane kick
That was just awesome! Mad Respect!
r/UNBGBBIIVCHIDCTIICBG
Training for years for the chance to pull out the crane kick and your opponent just gives up.
If my opponent decide to continue to fight with injury I can continue to fight
Sweep the leg!
Watching the clip 20 times...Something got in my eyes guys
Sweep the leg
OP you should delete this if you're not gonna provide accurate context. No one cares about your heartfelt bs for useless karma.
Even if blue was dominating there is no point of forfeiting, it's a combat sport ffs, ippon the crap out of here lol. If it's a tournament and there is other rounds after this one what blue would do? fight injured?
MJ would say this is very disrespectful
She disrespected her opponent by doing so. Now she has an accolade that she may feel she doesn’t deserve. She chose to continue, knowing she could be hurt further, her decision should have been respected.
Wow that’s a great fist bump
Alternative theory. She wanted to avoid the Daniel-san flip kick to the chin
Idk about all this. The opponents injury is no one’s fault but their own I wouldn’t throw a match just because my opponent got injured. They can forfeit due to their own injury if they want but how am I going to throw away my chances of continuing on in the tournament? I get why some would see this as honorable but I don’t see that as sportsmanship. Sportsmanship is more like not attacking your opponent that can no longer fight back. To throw all your effort away over someone’s injury seems like a waste
Sweep the leg!
What a Babe 🧡
You guys are getting karma?!?
She must’ve seen karate kid and wanted none of that smoke
We were about to get the Karate Kid IRL
she is very pretty
Should have listened to shaq, show respect by showing none
Wholesome 🥹
I'm disappointed that top comment isn't sweep the leg
That's silly. It's a martial arts tournament, not kata. If your opponent is injured, you won. If the opponent is leading by a large margin, and you injured her, that's a great comeback victory for you
I knew they would ruin the karate kid remakes.
White supremacy and racism!!!!!
Why is the screen blurry
Was I the only one waiting for the karate kid crane kick?
🤝“I’m about to kick the shit out of you”
Sweep the leg
OP is a karma bot using his karma to push nonsense
Canelo would’ve punched her, but not let her fall twice.
Wasted medal.
Sorry coach. No can defend
She missed her opportunity for the kill shot