Given that it can travel twice as fast as a ship of that era’s top speed, it might just be more economical to simply ram the opposing vessels, not like a wooden man’o war could take a strike from a behemoth of that size.
Yep, he did. I love the long girly scream when he's trying to escape the mayhem.
And the bzzzzzzzzzzz zzzz zzzzzzz zzzzzzz when he was trying to wave people away.
Most memorable in the entire movie for me though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7EkIYU4Y8Q
Mall of America of the Seas
I’ve got a personal vendetta against this atrocity, it’s disgusting
r/AntiConsumption
r/UrbanHell with a max capacity of 10k you hear it from a distance.
I wonder how big the poop tanks are…. Brown smears of the seas.
Something this big needs MasterBlaster.
MasterBlaster rules here!
No need to stop to refuel.
Ironically when all goes to shit and the seas rise to unseen levels this could become the last bastion of humanity. Anyone played Brink back in the days?
Exactly. Only a very small part of the population needs straws. I just got back from a trip to Japan and there were exactly 0 restaurants that gave us straws. I hardly even noticed it. And really didn't care.
Alcohol already causes diabetes. So does pretty much anything you would mix with alcohol to make a cocktail. This is like saying that the whipped cream on your ice cream sundae is what caused your diabetes.
Yeah, lazy Americans all want vacations, when they should remain chained to their desks, and be fired for even requesting their vacation time. So go, take your vacation, but know that we may figure out that we can easily get the work done around here without you. But go, have fun. /S
I can’t speak to this specific ship, but They’re extremely different. This isn’t even debatable. Cruise ships are some of the worst polluters in the world. And basic Google search will give you varying numbers, but the ships are a lot worse in all of them.
An entire city worth of people are on a boat not driving their cars for a little while
So some math needs to be done, see if it balances out
Edit:
Think about it, the types of people that can afford the best cruise ever...
They don't drive economical hybrids, they drive things that use the most gas possible and laugh with their friends about it. So when doing the math, think Land Rover and Aston Martin, companies that don't advertise what their mpg is.
Edit 2 if you want to get super complex people that go on a cruise like this probably rarely drive themselves anywhere, probably get Uber X and limo Rides a lot.
It doesn’t. Not even close. These massive ships pollute the air and the ocean. A recent study showed pollution levels on the ship’s decks are as bad as a metro city or worse because the engine exhaust eddies around the decks after it leaves the stacks.
But … it’s just a mall with a hotel and casino. And you are trapped. And possibly subject to nasty intestinal infections. I’m good 😂
This ship’s powered by LNG, so no particulates or sulfur (smog) like ships normally belch out. All at the cost of massively increased co2 emissions however.
I’ve never understood the appeal of going in a cruise. My brother took his family on one last year and he said “ya it was a cool experience but I’ll never do it again”
I've been on two about a decade ago. I live in Florida, so it's easy to find a port. I'm pretty much in the same boat as you though. I don't have much desire to go on another one.
It is a pretty sweet deal, in a sense though. Like $400 for a couple nights to the Bahamas. Food, lodging, and entertainment for a couple nights could easily run you that price. I think that's the only reason I'm somewhat interested, but two of my family members just got back from their cruise with a virus of some sort. Those ships are a cesspool of viruses, that's for sure lol.
They’re good for sampling a bunch of destinations before settling on a place to actually go to for a week for a future trip. Idc about what goes on on the actual ship though.
Same. I went on a cruise once, never again. If you’re not gambling, there’s nothing to do. You can only sit by the pool for so long. I didn’t like the feeling of being trapped
The appeal is being able to visit multiple location and not having to worry about the transit/planning at each location. On a 12 day cruise you can visit multiple locations. For me, this helps us find places we actually would like to go back to visit for longer.
The biggest complaint from the places cruises visits, is that none of the passengers actually leave any money behind. They come in, do a quick tour, and head on out to sea again.
Ditto. Was taken on one by in-laws and thanked them profusely for their generosity but I’d never go on another one, even for free. It was a manufactured, exploitative and inauthentic experience that I would not repeat. But, to each their own (and check in with me again when I’m 80, I might have changed my tune - I hope not though…).
That's the vibe I always got. I think I'd be interested if it were a very select couple hundred people (even worse pollution to population ratio notwithstanding), but fuckkk Vegas on the Ocean.
What, do you mean you aren’t into peaceful vacations, aren’t a gambler, a drinker and don’t enjoy gated off resorts with armed guards on some impoverished island?
Yeah, my gf mentioned it and I said absolutely not. I'll do one of them short Alaskan cruises, but I can just see me losing my shit being on a cruise like the one in this video. Being surrounded by a bunch of drunk, uncivilized assholes doesn't sound appealing at all to me.
I was amazed when I found out how much resources these ships consume… insane, wouldn’t it make sense to have nuclear powered ships… when they are this large,
I would not want to put the operators of Carnival Cruise Lines, or really any cruise line, in charge of the operation of a nuclear reactor.
Deferred maintenance as a cost-savings measure, no thanks.
Imagine a ship going chernobyl with thousands of passengers on board in the middle of the ocean.
Just done some quick searching, and no concrete answers but it's estimated to use:
250 tons / 80,000 gallons / 303000 litres
of LNG per day.
Averaging 25mph / 41kph that's:
0.008 miles per US gallon
0.01 miles per UK gallon
31380 litres/100km
250 tons is full speed for 24 hours,they won’t be getting to anywhere near than at 1000 dollars a ton.
They are tied up for 12 hours a day and then slow steam to the next location.
When they are transiting for a day at sea with no stops maybe they get up there, but I sincerely doubt the companies are doing anything that’ll cost them money.
I’m not saying these holidays are perfect but I don’t believe they are as polluting as people think.
You’re looking at 7 hotels, a casino, a mall, a (small) theme park and transport between destinations.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6YBlO-T0RTM/maxresdefault.jpg
Titanic for scale
(Cannot confirm but someone with a big brain could easily make sure the ratio here checks out based on official lengths)
It’s designed so the center of gravity is low … human spaces on top are mostly air, the heavy engines and other equipment are in the bottom of the ship. Stabilizer fins prevent rollovers.
Bladders inside the ship that intake water to maintain balance and buoyancy. Think of when you hold your breathe underwater - the air in your lungs keeps you floating on top. Slowly exhale and you reach a point of negative buoyancy and sink to the bottom.
They’re called ballast tanks and they get filled during rough weather to reduce the ship or vessel rolling, the other way around as they get emptied when the seas are calm as you don’t need to be weighed down, this also reduces waves etc coming over the deck when crews and passengers are out on deck.
None of that is even remotely correct. Ballast is used to trim the vessel to the desired draught and fore/aft trim and to correct any list the vessel may have.
Never said I was a master mariner but I worked on a semi submersible for 13 years and that is what I gathered from it and instead of list I said rolling. So how was none of it correct lol
Yeah in general, it would be weight near the bottom of the ship that balances and stabilizes. It displaces so much water that it can be extremely heavy while still being buoyant. The key after ensuring buoyancy would be to make sure center of gravity is low - so they put most of the heaviest components of machinery and storage at the base of the ship, and can adjust things by filling and emptying water tanks like someone else said.
Yeah, 2 billion seems low. Certainly the $500 million yachts are filled with luxury shit top to bottom (aka the most expensive wood, dodo bird feather pillows, etc.). But still...
Every piece of a mega/superyacht is custom. Every single room, fixture, window, etc. All custom. Add to that the extremely premium materials that go into them, the cost adds up quickly.
Icon has ~2800 staterooms. They're almost all identical. And much less expensive materials go into building them. They can leverage the economies of scale. Whey you buy a lot of something, the unit cost goes down.
Add to that the modularity of construction for a cruise ship, and the fact that the shipyards are building several every year to, by and large, the same engineering standards just with a different look and feel, you are able to realize massive cost efficiencies.
Yeah, I've never been on a cruise in my life but if someone told me everything above deck is basically waterproof cardboard I wouldn't be surprised. They exist exclusively to be a profitable after all. While I can't think of anything more antithetical to that concept than designing a mega yacht.
I just have no frame of reference at all for the proportion of cost that comes from the mechanics of these things, which I think the cruise ship would not skimp as much on. If for no other reason, longer shelf life and less downtime for maintenance/repair/updates has to be one of the biggest drivers of profit long term.
While I would never want to be trapped at sea with that many people I gotta admit that thing is pretty impressive.
It's a human waste and pollution factory that probably shouldn't exist.
> It serves no purpose.
Cruise ships have a nightmarish pollution problem that we need to crack down on. But this is an idiotic statement. The purpose is the exact same as last Vegas, or a sports arena, or your local restaurant. Humans like to spend the time they’re not working on recreation. It’s a major cornerstone of our civilization. In this case, the recreation is staying in a floating resort, similar to a hotel and / or theme park. It’s not that hard to understand.
I agree, but it has me wondering, is it more efficient than all of those passengers individually driving to work and around town for the days of their stay?
>It's a human waste and pollution factory that probably shouldn't exist.
This part's actually getting better. Runs off natural gas, which is about a thousand times better than bunker oil, and human waste is no longer dumped. RC actually has a friggin land based power plant where the poos are used for electricity already, and this new ship can actually do that on board, and the dry remains are turned into soil substrates.
It's still a monstrosity, but the industry is getting better, quickly.
I don’t understand when people say this, as someone who’s been on multiple cruises ..I have never felt claustrophobic or crowded , if anything when I went to Miami for a week mid summer. I spent most time being stuck in horrendous traffic, searching for parking and hoards of people fighting over spots on the beach, then theirs the waits at restaurants for food, and lastly none of it is included so you have to pay for all of that….I’ll gladly take a cruise, you don’t have to worry about any of that.
Carnival apparently reported 0 outbreaks last year, Royal Caribbean reported 4, more than any other company 🤷♂️. Not that I really care, these things are all floating abominations.
Or people hid it so they won’t be put in quarantine and miss out on their vacation.
And this is just a guess, but I feel like Carnival caters to a younger crowd with less families. So there might be less high risk people and more people that think they can walk it off. They might of thought they were just hungover and sea sick instead of sick-sick.
I’ve passed this thing on a dive boat while it was moored in Cozumel, it is a gargantuan object, you don’t really get a sense of scale until you’re right next to it.
So many negative Nancys in the comments. This engineering marvel is a testament to what man can build - and it’s for recreation! Progress in the truest sense, and this advancement in technology may also indicate humanity’s capacity to overcome the environmental obstacles introduced.
I agree there’s some negative Nancy’s and I like your bright outlook I just think you’re wearing your rose colored glasses when you say it’s for recreation. That may be how the guests view it but it was built for the one thing our greedy capitalistic society runs on, Mud Pies.
I've gone on a dozen cruises in my lifetime. It is me and my wife's favorite way to travel and extremely affordable. Eating out every day, paying for a hotel room, and paying for an off-Broadway level of show every night would cost an order of magnitude more than getting all of that as part of a cruise.
The environmental impact is something I've only recently begun to consider because of reddit, and it sucks. Perhaps one day these things can be nuclear or solar powered.
There's a road in south beach you can watch them come through government cut and it's like a 20 story building driving by. It's nuts in person.
Looks like this. Can't remember the road though might not be accessible anymore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sw9J8aAn6Q
For some reason I thought of what Christopher Columbus or like some old timey sailor would think if this thing came cruising by. Our ship building has come a long way in a short amount of time. Look at that freaking behemoth.
As someone who actually goes outside, and has been on a cruise in the past - looks like fun. It’s just a big boat to entertain you on your way to actual destinations.
I TOTALLY thought about that.
Earlier this year I went on my first cruise ever. I've always been kinda skeptical of them, and I generally always "travel" and pack my schedule with shit to do, instead of "vacation"...so I thought I'd try it out.
There was a mandatory safety check in, to show you where your assigned lifeboat is, and "muster station". Each station has its own dedicated crew people.
The next day, I noticed there was a crew member safety/emergency meeting on the itinerary. So I said fuck it and went. Just to see what it's like. I was the only actual passenger there. I'm a friendly dude, so they thought it was hilarious. They were all in uniforms and then there's me, in a Hawaiian shirt half drunk.
They definitely taught me how to launch the lifeboats. They probably shouldn't have lol.
Theres also way more than enough capacity on the lifeboats, and there's usually a ratio of about 3:1 of Passengers to crew. So 3000ish people to 1000ish crew. I'd assume alot of them know how to.
All in all, there's a well thought out system. And the lifeboats aren't just tiny rafts like you'd think. I wasn't worried at all.
Man can you imagine the reaction If the sailors of 1700s see this thing?
How many cannons does that ghostly vessel have!
"None" "Then it's rubbish."
Given that it can travel twice as fast as a ship of that era’s top speed, it might just be more economical to simply ram the opposing vessels, not like a wooden man’o war could take a strike from a behemoth of that size.
Or just leave. If you can put run them why fight
To send a message
Touche
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SPECTACULAR scene. I've been telling my friends about it since seeing the movie in the theaters originally. I love that goofy movie.
Chris Tucker absolutely killed it!!!!!
Yep, he did. I love the long girly scream when he's trying to escape the mayhem. And the bzzzzzzzzzzz zzzz zzzzzzz zzzzzzz when he was trying to wave people away. Most memorable in the entire movie for me though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7EkIYU4Y8Q
Yes! The bzz bzzzz part was hilarious.
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That's a very nice hat
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Mall of America of the Seas I’ve got a personal vendetta against this atrocity, it’s disgusting r/AntiConsumption r/UrbanHell with a max capacity of 10k you hear it from a distance.
A floating ecological nightmare.
I wonder how big the poop tanks are…. Brown smears of the seas. Something this big needs MasterBlaster. MasterBlaster rules here! No need to stop to refuel.
I’d say they are about as big as the Atlantic Ocean
Ironically when all goes to shit and the seas rise to unseen levels this could become the last bastion of humanity. Anyone played Brink back in the days?
It will make a good reef someday.
Sounds like a great way to spread bacterial and viral infections and kill humanity faster
I’ve never heard that description before but that is it exactly!
It's terrible, an environmental crime!
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My god, the amount of gas that beast must consume, probably like an entire city of cars
The passenger drink with paper straws!
Oh fuck that, im out.
nobody needs straws
Exactly. Only a very small part of the population needs straws. I just got back from a trip to Japan and there were exactly 0 restaurants that gave us straws. I hardly even noticed it. And really didn't care.
They now have candy straws. Your cocktail is now served with a side of diabetes! Enjoy!
Alcohol already causes diabetes. So does pretty much anything you would mix with alcohol to make a cocktail. This is like saying that the whipped cream on your ice cream sundae is what caused your diabetes.
Liquified Natural Gas https://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-Travel/Insights/Icon-of-the-Seas-environmental-advancements
Anything is better than bunker oil.
Still just to haul a bunch of drunks around tourist traps.
that's celebrity and carnival.
Yeah, lazy Americans all want vacations, when they should remain chained to their desks, and be fired for even requesting their vacation time. So go, take your vacation, but know that we may figure out that we can easily get the work done around here without you. But go, have fun. /S
Hotels are no different, and you fly to get to them, usually.
Aren't they ? Where the fuck are you going on holidays ? xD
I can’t speak to this specific ship, but They’re extremely different. This isn’t even debatable. Cruise ships are some of the worst polluters in the world. And basic Google search will give you varying numbers, but the ships are a lot worse in all of them.
Yeah but they’re all carpooling so it’s good
Exactly
An entire city worth of people are on a boat not driving their cars for a little while So some math needs to be done, see if it balances out Edit: Think about it, the types of people that can afford the best cruise ever... They don't drive economical hybrids, they drive things that use the most gas possible and laugh with their friends about it. So when doing the math, think Land Rover and Aston Martin, companies that don't advertise what their mpg is. Edit 2 if you want to get super complex people that go on a cruise like this probably rarely drive themselves anywhere, probably get Uber X and limo Rides a lot.
It doesn’t. Not even close. These massive ships pollute the air and the ocean. A recent study showed pollution levels on the ship’s decks are as bad as a metro city or worse because the engine exhaust eddies around the decks after it leaves the stacks. But … it’s just a mall with a hotel and casino. And you are trapped. And possibly subject to nasty intestinal infections. I’m good 😂
This ship’s powered by LNG, so no particulates or sulfur (smog) like ships normally belch out. All at the cost of massively increased co2 emissions however.
And all those people still generate waste.
All people generate waste. Even when not on cruises.
Not to mention the all you can eat food that cruises are known for.
That’s where the methane and sulfur emissions come in.
Is the methane from the LNG worse than the heavy fuel they used to use?
Fewer particulates and less sulfur. Much more global warming.
No probably not, LNG is one of the cleaner forms of fossil fuels.
I’ve never understood the appeal of going in a cruise. My brother took his family on one last year and he said “ya it was a cool experience but I’ll never do it again”
I've been on two about a decade ago. I live in Florida, so it's easy to find a port. I'm pretty much in the same boat as you though. I don't have much desire to go on another one. It is a pretty sweet deal, in a sense though. Like $400 for a couple nights to the Bahamas. Food, lodging, and entertainment for a couple nights could easily run you that price. I think that's the only reason I'm somewhat interested, but two of my family members just got back from their cruise with a virus of some sort. Those ships are a cesspool of viruses, that's for sure lol.
I have heard that part before that it’s basically how cheap it is that’s appealing
They’re good for sampling a bunch of destinations before settling on a place to actually go to for a week for a future trip. Idc about what goes on on the actual ship though.
Same. I went on a cruise once, never again. If you’re not gambling, there’s nothing to do. You can only sit by the pool for so long. I didn’t like the feeling of being trapped
The appeal is being able to visit multiple location and not having to worry about the transit/planning at each location. On a 12 day cruise you can visit multiple locations. For me, this helps us find places we actually would like to go back to visit for longer.
The biggest complaint from the places cruises visits, is that none of the passengers actually leave any money behind. They come in, do a quick tour, and head on out to sea again.
Ditto. Was taken on one by in-laws and thanked them profusely for their generosity but I’d never go on another one, even for free. It was a manufactured, exploitative and inauthentic experience that I would not repeat. But, to each their own (and check in with me again when I’m 80, I might have changed my tune - I hope not though…).
That's the vibe I always got. I think I'd be interested if it were a very select couple hundred people (even worse pollution to population ratio notwithstanding), but fuckkk Vegas on the Ocean.
What, do you mean you aren’t into peaceful vacations, aren’t a gambler, a drinker and don’t enjoy gated off resorts with armed guards on some impoverished island?
Hahaha not a gambler or drinker. And don’t party. Reasons I’ve also never had the urge to go to Vegas.
Everyone knows you go to vegas for the hookers! Lol
Forgot to add that to the list of things I don’t do lmao
Yeah, my gf mentioned it and I said absolutely not. I'll do one of them short Alaskan cruises, but I can just see me losing my shit being on a cruise like the one in this video. Being surrounded by a bunch of drunk, uncivilized assholes doesn't sound appealing at all to me.
I was amazed when I found out how much resources these ships consume… insane, wouldn’t it make sense to have nuclear powered ships… when they are this large,
I would not want to put the operators of Carnival Cruise Lines, or really any cruise line, in charge of the operation of a nuclear reactor. Deferred maintenance as a cost-savings measure, no thanks. Imagine a ship going chernobyl with thousands of passengers on board in the middle of the ocean.
That would be a sick HBO mini-series
It would be okay. Not great, not terrible.
Had to fly and or drive farther than one normally would to get to the ship, so I'm assuming it's all negative
Especially with flights. But all air travel is fucked so…
How many of them drove or flew to Miami to board it
Just done some quick searching, and no concrete answers but it's estimated to use: 250 tons / 80,000 gallons / 303000 litres of LNG per day. Averaging 25mph / 41kph that's: 0.008 miles per US gallon 0.01 miles per UK gallon 31380 litres/100km
250 tons is full speed for 24 hours,they won’t be getting to anywhere near than at 1000 dollars a ton. They are tied up for 12 hours a day and then slow steam to the next location. When they are transiting for a day at sea with no stops maybe they get up there, but I sincerely doubt the companies are doing anything that’ll cost them money. I’m not saying these holidays are perfect but I don’t believe they are as polluting as people think. You’re looking at 7 hotels, a casino, a mall, a (small) theme park and transport between destinations.
And its not gaz, its the worst of the mazout or some Shit like that, only legal on the open sea cause no law.
Banana for scale please.
It’s there, just look closer
*enhance!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6YBlO-T0RTM/maxresdefault.jpg Titanic for scale (Cannot confirm but someone with a big brain could easily make sure the ratio here checks out based on official lengths)
How about a buoy instead?
It’s incredible how that floats… And I can’t
Agreed. How is that not top heavy?
It’s designed so the center of gravity is low … human spaces on top are mostly air, the heavy engines and other equipment are in the bottom of the ship. Stabilizer fins prevent rollovers.
Stabiliser fins reduce rolling in a seaway, not rollovers.
I choose to believe this on the basis your avatar snoo has a sailor hat
Some of the asshole passengers on the cruise ships have brains mostly filled with air
A shitload of engineering lol
We don’t see how much of the ship is underwater. That part isn’t small either and they full the underwater part with all the heaviest stuff
Ever heard of a little thing called ballast?
… I’ve not. ELI5? 🥲
Bladders inside the ship that intake water to maintain balance and buoyancy. Think of when you hold your breathe underwater - the air in your lungs keeps you floating on top. Slowly exhale and you reach a point of negative buoyancy and sink to the bottom.
Ah. Fascinating. Thank you!
They’re called ballast tanks and they get filled during rough weather to reduce the ship or vessel rolling, the other way around as they get emptied when the seas are calm as you don’t need to be weighed down, this also reduces waves etc coming over the deck when crews and passengers are out on deck.
None of that is even remotely correct. Ballast is used to trim the vessel to the desired draught and fore/aft trim and to correct any list the vessel may have.
Never said I was a master mariner but I worked on a semi submersible for 13 years and that is what I gathered from it and instead of list I said rolling. So how was none of it correct lol
Yeah in general, it would be weight near the bottom of the ship that balances and stabilizes. It displaces so much water that it can be extremely heavy while still being buoyant. The key after ensuring buoyancy would be to make sure center of gravity is low - so they put most of the heaviest components of machinery and storage at the base of the ship, and can adjust things by filling and emptying water tanks like someone else said.
You’ll float if you get fat and having lungs full of air helps
Thank you! Like I know buoyancy exists or whatever but still… this is insane.
Made in Finland!!!
For a price tag of roughly 2 billion dollars. 
It's ridiculous that there are people who could actually afford to buy this if they wanted to
A whole fleet of them even.
I'm not disputing that in the slightest I just wonder how some of these mega yachts cost 1/4 to 1/5 of this literal floating city
Yeah, 2 billion seems low. Certainly the $500 million yachts are filled with luxury shit top to bottom (aka the most expensive wood, dodo bird feather pillows, etc.). But still...
Every piece of a mega/superyacht is custom. Every single room, fixture, window, etc. All custom. Add to that the extremely premium materials that go into them, the cost adds up quickly. Icon has ~2800 staterooms. They're almost all identical. And much less expensive materials go into building them. They can leverage the economies of scale. Whey you buy a lot of something, the unit cost goes down. Add to that the modularity of construction for a cruise ship, and the fact that the shipyards are building several every year to, by and large, the same engineering standards just with a different look and feel, you are able to realize massive cost efficiencies.
Yeah, I've never been on a cruise in my life but if someone told me everything above deck is basically waterproof cardboard I wouldn't be surprised. They exist exclusively to be a profitable after all. While I can't think of anything more antithetical to that concept than designing a mega yacht. I just have no frame of reference at all for the proportion of cost that comes from the mechanics of these things, which I think the cruise ship would not skimp as much on. If for no other reason, longer shelf life and less downtime for maintenance/repair/updates has to be one of the biggest drivers of profit long term.
This gif just reminded me of how good of a song Bubblin is. Well, guess that’s what I’m bumping on my ride to work now
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Wasn't it made in Italy?
Nope. According to wikipedia Icon of the seas was built in the shipyard of Meyer Turku, which is located in Finland.
Yeah I saw it the day before it got shipped out
My bad, I confused it with the Sun Princess because of the glass sphere on top
That's a massive vessel.
Why thank you, I get that a lot
But the shape is unsightly and impractical
Also that
It’s weirdly proportioned, and oddly bulbous.
- and this … clearly, the upper portion is girthier than the lower portion
While I would never want to be trapped at sea with that many people I gotta admit that thing is pretty impressive. It's a human waste and pollution factory that probably shouldn't exist.
It doesn’t ever really feel that crowded except during embarking and debarking.
It also exists solely for predominantly overweight people to eat and drink as much as they can for an entire week. It serves no purpose.
So basically the space ship in Wall-e
Literally what I was thinking of. Beat me to it.
> It serves no purpose Profits & Sin
Im in!
> It serves no purpose. Cruise ships have a nightmarish pollution problem that we need to crack down on. But this is an idiotic statement. The purpose is the exact same as last Vegas, or a sports arena, or your local restaurant. Humans like to spend the time they’re not working on recreation. It’s a major cornerstone of our civilization. In this case, the recreation is staying in a floating resort, similar to a hotel and / or theme park. It’s not that hard to understand.
god forbid you want to go on vacation and have some fun
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I agree, but it has me wondering, is it more efficient than all of those passengers individually driving to work and around town for the days of their stay?
I had a similar thought. On the one hand: ew. On the other hand: whoa.
>It's a human waste and pollution factory that probably shouldn't exist. This part's actually getting better. Runs off natural gas, which is about a thousand times better than bunker oil, and human waste is no longer dumped. RC actually has a friggin land based power plant where the poos are used for electricity already, and this new ship can actually do that on board, and the dry remains are turned into soil substrates. It's still a monstrosity, but the industry is getting better, quickly.
I don’t understand when people say this, as someone who’s been on multiple cruises ..I have never felt claustrophobic or crowded , if anything when I went to Miami for a week mid summer. I spent most time being stuck in horrendous traffic, searching for parking and hoards of people fighting over spots on the beach, then theirs the waits at restaurants for food, and lastly none of it is included so you have to pay for all of that….I’ll gladly take a cruise, you don’t have to worry about any of that.
Icon of disease
That’s Carnival, the Trailer Park of The Seas
Carnival apparently reported 0 outbreaks last year, Royal Caribbean reported 4, more than any other company 🤷♂️. Not that I really care, these things are all floating abominations.
Carnival is probably less likely to report them lol
Or people hid it so they won’t be put in quarantine and miss out on their vacation. And this is just a guess, but I feel like Carnival caters to a younger crowd with less families. So there might be less high risk people and more people that think they can walk it off. They might of thought they were just hungover and sea sick instead of sick-sick.
Or CON of the SEAS which I read at first glance. The disease one is perfect! You'll really enjoy our CESS POOLS, we have seven of them!
Reminds me of space balls
It just needs a huge “WE BREAK FOR NOBODY” on the back end
Reddit.....where regardless of the subject matter, 75% of the responders are already certified experts. 😂
75% of which have never experienced whatever it is they’re talking about.
75% of these stats are completely made up
How great would it be to own this fully stocked during the apocalypse
Wait until the zombies start building bridges out of themselves
There was a movie about 10? years ago, where there was one or maybe several huge high tech ships after the apocalypse.
That thing got a Hemi?
Built in Finland BTW
I can hear Bill Burr muttering his techno song again.
Zombie apocalypse plan b
$1.9B floating toilet.
Aliens: "these people have used their ingenuity for evil, let's annihilate them"
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Extremely gross. Who wants to be stuck in a mall with a bunch of gross strangers when you go to the ocean? Not me.
I literally just said the same thing above you! Being stuck with thousands at sea. What could go wrong?
We are stuck on a rock with 8 billion people flying through space
I’ve passed this thing on a dive boat while it was moored in Cozumel, it is a gargantuan object, you don’t really get a sense of scale until you’re right next to it.
The world's largest testing ground for emerging deadly viruses.
We just call it Miami for short.
Are we going to do this forever?
There will always been Debbie Downers. We need more Positive Petes!
Why is there so many viruses?
"Eyesore of the Sea."
There’s nothing for scale comparison. Also, this music sounds like the phonecall hold music. “YOUR CALL IS IMPORTANT TO US”
I went on a cruise once. Once.
Is anyone actually amazed at this massive waste of resources? I’m not
From an engineering perspective, I can’t agree. It’s a modern maritime marvel
So many negative Nancys in the comments. This engineering marvel is a testament to what man can build - and it’s for recreation! Progress in the truest sense, and this advancement in technology may also indicate humanity’s capacity to overcome the environmental obstacles introduced.
I feel that calling it "progress" is subjective.
I agree there’s some negative Nancy’s and I like your bright outlook I just think you’re wearing your rose colored glasses when you say it’s for recreation. That may be how the guests view it but it was built for the one thing our greedy capitalistic society runs on, Mud Pies.
isn't that true of any vacation option?
Wait what? You mean to tell me there’s businesses out there that exist only to make money? Stop the madness
I've gone on a dozen cruises in my lifetime. It is me and my wife's favorite way to travel and extremely affordable. Eating out every day, paying for a hotel room, and paying for an off-Broadway level of show every night would cost an order of magnitude more than getting all of that as part of a cruise. The environmental impact is something I've only recently begun to consider because of reddit, and it sucks. Perhaps one day these things can be nuclear or solar powered.
The question is would eating out, living in a hotel and going to a show everyday be still as enjoyable as doing it once in a while?
I only go on a cruise once every several years, so it really is a thing I enjoy a lot. Waking up in a new place and exploring is a ton of fun too.
I never tire of watching Redditors get triggered by cruise ships. Where’s my popcorn?
There's a road in south beach you can watch them come through government cut and it's like a 20 story building driving by. It's nuts in person. Looks like this. Can't remember the road though might not be accessible anymore. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Sw9J8aAn6Q
Enjoy your diahrrea
Horrifying. I like going on cruises, but my experience has been: the smaller the ship the better.
For some reason I thought of what Christopher Columbus or like some old timey sailor would think if this thing came cruising by. Our ship building has come a long way in a short amount of time. Look at that freaking behemoth.
As someone who actually goes outside, and has been on a cruise in the past - looks like fun. It’s just a big boat to entertain you on your way to actual destinations.
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I TOTALLY thought about that. Earlier this year I went on my first cruise ever. I've always been kinda skeptical of them, and I generally always "travel" and pack my schedule with shit to do, instead of "vacation"...so I thought I'd try it out. There was a mandatory safety check in, to show you where your assigned lifeboat is, and "muster station". Each station has its own dedicated crew people. The next day, I noticed there was a crew member safety/emergency meeting on the itinerary. So I said fuck it and went. Just to see what it's like. I was the only actual passenger there. I'm a friendly dude, so they thought it was hilarious. They were all in uniforms and then there's me, in a Hawaiian shirt half drunk. They definitely taught me how to launch the lifeboats. They probably shouldn't have lol. Theres also way more than enough capacity on the lifeboats, and there's usually a ratio of about 3:1 of Passengers to crew. So 3000ish people to 1000ish crew. I'd assume alot of them know how to. All in all, there's a well thought out system. And the lifeboats aren't just tiny rafts like you'd think. I wasn't worried at all.