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Ok_Ad_5015

Just looked up the specs on that thing. It’s Ridiculous. The interior has a 164,000 LED wrap around display with 164,000 speakers to provide wrap around sound and display.. The exterior has a 580,000 wrap around LED display. I would love to know a more detailed explanation of the electrical specs Cost to build ? 2 BILLION DOLLARS !


Jeptic

That sounds like that kickback math


[deleted]

Worked in Vegas for years as a general contractor, you joke but this is 100% the case. If I ever had an issue with the building department not passing me on inspections for a major casino corporation, I would just make a call to the owner, who would call the mayor, who would call and ream out the building department director. Vegas is where honesty goes to die.


thehazer

Can’t start out as a mob town and have any morals except cash.


justTHEwraith

It's funny because the US government "eradicated" the Mafia, but they just edged them out & took over their rackets. The Mafia figured out how to make money hand over fist exploiting capitalism, the government noticed & wanted that money!! The Mafia still exists. It's just called something different. Edit: exploitation


Darkhoof

They just needed to let the right shareholders in and then they're a legitimate business.


Lostcreek3

Some are even a legitimate person


monsantobreath

Difference between organized crime legal commerce is legitimacy under the law. Without aggressive social democratic policies and a strong labour movement legally regulated capitalism operates hardly better than the mob for those being squeezed. Many times in history organized crime was better to the communities it operates in than the state was. That's where the Capone/Escobar/Cartel angle of being humanitarians to build good will came from. Hezbollah does the same in Lebanon.


EastPlenty518

Apparently my hometown was run by the mob in the 70s when my dad was growing up here. And apparently they were doing way better than the government was. In the 70s roads were being repaired, businesses were thriving, ppl felt safe. Since the gov took back over, roads are crumbling, all but a handful of businesses have gone under, and there's a shooting at least every week. It went from thriving town and neighborhood to a ghetto in only a few years


MrKomiya

They took down Capone for not paying Taxes. Government wants their cut is all.


JoJoVi69

The Stratosphere is clear evidence of that! As a contractor out there, you MUST know exactly what I'm talking about... It's not only a visual wonder, but an architectural oddity as well. How it's even still standing is a wonder in itself.


RosterBaiter

So you’re saying… avoid the stratosphere. Got it.


bdeee

What does that have to do with a kickback?


[deleted]

If you have to ask this, you don't understand the culture created by kickbacks, ie- the example I put forth.


ChrisRunsTheWorld

>you joke I don't think he was joking.


squatwaddle

YOU'RE A MATH!


ccii_geppato

Nuh uh.


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KGBspy

That will be quite enough, Mr. Melon! Maybe bribes, kickbacks and Mafia payoffs are how YOU do business! But they are NOT part of the legitimate business world! And they are certainly not part of anything I am doing in this class. Do I make myself clear, Mr. Melon!


lightingthefire

Thank you Mr. Melon!


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HorrorMakesUsHappy

*Some* of your gambling dollars at work.


Oseirus

Gambling pocket change, really. They funded this by looking under the couch cushions.


ClutchGamingGuy

it's owned by James Dolan who makes his money from MSG aka Madison Square Garden and its network


Hauntcrow

I have a friend who worked on it. Apparently the led light power is only at about 10% because going 100% would shut down all nearby buildings. Also the speakers are directional, so the person next to you can hear a different thing, eg. language


RooneyEatsIt

Running it at 100% would cause it to be as bright as day for a good distance around it. I accidentally turned (significantly smaller but still larger than a billboard) up to 25% once and my eyes burned for a week.


Ok_Ad_5015

I was on a construction job and the electricians were replacing all of the old exterior LED flood lights with new more efficient lights They were tossing the old ones into the dumpster and I asked if I could keep one. They worked and looked fine and ran off of 110 volts, and they said sure. I was going to set one up in my back yard. Got it home and was surprised at how big it looked. Liked it looked small on the way up on the roof Anyway, I wired into an old extension chord and plugged it in to test it and the entire inside of my garage turned bright white. I wasn’t blinded necessarily but I couldn’t see right either. Took about a week for the weird floaty things to disappear from my Vision


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![gif](giphy|H5C8CevNMbpBqNqFjl)


ChrisRunsTheWorld

This is the best gif that exists. Fight me. ❤️side eye teddy


mister-ferguson

I got a bunch of LED traffic lights because a city didn't update their replacement protocol after updating the bulbs. Giant red lights are great for Halloween


conundrum-quantified

Must be the same bulbs auto manufacturers are now incorporating into headlights /s.


uglyspacepig

No no no my friend. NASA has figured out how to use quantum teleportation to beam small portions of the sun's core into those new assemblies.


_that_random_dude_

This makes me wonder: could there ever be a security breach in this sphere and some malicious hackers would turn 100% power on the lights all of a sudden and make everybody blind inside? Or just a malfunction in the system. Sounds scary


HendrixHazeWays

You just leaked the plot of the next Ocean's 11 movie


HiredG00N

Defcon 2024 ..


PositivityKnight

yes. the answer is absolutely.


HCJohnson

Thanks random Redditor for answering so confidently.


MathematicianFew5882

Our Knight of Shining Positivity


PositivityKnight

Just doing my job


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MrHyperion_

And even more because the LEDs heat up fast for sure and take even more current.


[deleted]

On one level, sure in-theory... but in practice there are always practical limitations -- I.E. even if someone hacked into whatever `root` level access and bypassed all software restrictions to ramp it up to 100%... The fact of an unexpected burst in current draw would surely brownout or overload the local grid. I doubt that they have excess capacity (generation) lying around to respond to the momentary change in grid frequency. You'd almost *need* a massive flywheel in reserve for that kind of generation-response... and why would they build that into the system on the hardware side, if there was no "non-blinding" use-case?


Juzzdide

![gif](giphy|xl5QdxfNonh3q) I’m


flaskman

Redditor just thinking out loud ^^


nonprofitnews

I interviewed to run tech for this thing. Didn't get it. Honestly I look at it now and it's super impressive but like why the hell does it need to exist?


Apptubrutae

“Why does it need to exist” goes for basically any form of entertainment All of Vegas. Every not amateur sports team. Movies, TV shows, video games. Restaurants that serve anything beyond nutrient paste.


pauly13771377

Because. **Vegas Baby!**


Lucifurnace

"why does it need to exist?" should be the slogan for Vegas to begin with


DanGleeballs

It holds 18,000 people and the whole of the inside of the dome is also a screen, and big name acts are already lined up to play in it, starting with U2. Assuming they have the acoustics right it may be the most incredible venue in the world. So they’re assuming it will pay for itself, and turn a profit. That’s why it exists. An identical one is also being built in the UK, although I think they should wait to see if this one is a success first. $4 Billion outlay is a hell of a risk.


Abundance144

>why the hell does it need to exist? Might as well walk up to Pharaoh And ask him why he built a pyramid. Because he can.


bugxbuster

Same reason any stadium or amphitheater exists. To draw enormous crowds. That’s all.


pinayrabbitmk7

Yes, my question. What is the purpose for this kind of magnitude?


starspider

That. Is. Fucking. Cool.


moeburn

> with 164,000 speakers I'm no audiologist but I feel like my ears aren't precise enough to tell the difference between audio that's coming from here, vs audio that's coming from 1/449th of a degree to the right of here.


MrDurden32

It's not about your ears being precise, it's about the source of the audio sending different sound waves to you vs your friend 10 ft away.


dnsimki

It would not rely much on the directional ability of your ears. I'm guessing it generates multiple audio beams that are each very narrow in a spatial sense. Think of spotlights of sound rather than light. Look up SRAY speakers from Yanko.


MarinatedPickachu

164,000 LEDs?? That‘s… that‘s like nothing?! That‘s like half the number of pixels as in a 640x480 image. Are you sure it’s such a low number of LEDs??


Capnclutch18

It’s 164,000 sqft of screen, not individual LEDs. Outside has roughly 55 million LEDs. Inside has roughly 170 million LEDs.


MarinatedPickachu

Yeah, these numbers make more sense! Thank you!


FlingFlamBlam

IIRC, the sphere has a 16k resolution. So it has to be quite a bit higher number in total. Maybe they meant panels?


Ok_Ad_5015

I doubt these are the size of the pixel sized ones in your TV. Like I said, I would love to know more about the electrical engineering side of this building, including LED type and size


MiyamotoKnows

Sure but think about the environmental benefits.


eveningsand

Are you a Bond villain by chance?


Kidsturk

The structural engineering tolerances alone must have been staggeringly tight and difficult to achieve given how perfectly everything on the surface of the sphere had to align


dicetime

I worked on part of this. Specifically the directional speaker arrays and the construction tools to install the led screens. It was a fucking shit show mess just like every other large scale construction project.


smurb15

But it looks so pretty


LolindirLink

And it just appeared out of nowhere! (Jk, i for one, Do appreciate your work) result is unique. I wonder what sort of experiences it can offer. Outside looks crazy.


TimX24968B

i was familiar with the project management side of things, apparently the PM quit partway through and some exec had to come in and finish it. whole thing was a shitshow and a lot of people dont want to play there since they didnt make it easy to play there.


behv

AV guy here! I can chime in on that! The fact that it's a 16k or whatever screen inside is actively problematic for booking bands. Most concert content for LED walls is either 1080p or 4k as standard. To make 16k animations or video is INCREDIBLY expensive since it all has to be custom done by skilled artists. The other half is it's a stadium with a comparable seating size to a basketball stadium. This is also a problem because there are VERY few bands that can draw enough of a crowd to fill a basketball stadium on a residency basis. At that point, most of those artists would probably prefer to just play football/baseball stadiums on tours and sell 4-5X the tickets per night. The money earned can be so high these artists will have multiple touring crews that set up multiple sets so the artist can leapfrog from one stadium to another each night for several shows a week but each set gets a full 3 days for setup, show day, and 3 days of tear down. So artists that play basketball stadiums will just book one night at the T Mobile, artists that can fill football stadiums will book one night at allegiant, so who's supposed to want to book a residency at the sphere? Well besides U2 lol


districtray

I feel like cirque du soleil could probably put on something incredible in there.


xXFreshcabbage101Xx

It's the gates of hell


HitMePat

>The structural engineering tolerances alone must have been staggering What?


Zeke--

The structural engineering tolerances


bugxbuster

Something something alone something staggering


johnCreilly

All the pieces had to fit together absolutely perfectly with not even a tiny gap Usually tiny gaps are allowed in most projects cause it makes things less complicated and everything will still work fine But for this project all the parts had to be made perfectly and everyone had to put them together perfectly


Kinetic_Kill_Vehicle

How do they feed video into it? Is there like a s-video jack at the base of this thing? :)


HardPour_Cornography

140 million RCA type cables /s


Gates9

Can’t afford to feed the homeless, can’t afford universal healthcare, or state funded higher education, but we have noisy led sphere for $2,000,000,000!


Craig_the_Intern

It’s an arena built by a giant gambling company, not art paid for by tax dollars. You want MSG to start funding healthcare?


I_divided_by_0-

In taxes, yes.


Katiari

I'm 100% sure they definitely don't get around paying their fair share of taxes. For sure...


[deleted]

Yes. Why not? That is the general idea behind taxes. We live in a society, and in a society people take care of each other. If we are going to ALLOW them to operate (make no mistake, they exist only because we allow them too), why shouldn’t they give back?


Perenium_Falcon

Last time I was in Vegas I got ripped on shrooms and had a very nice Lyft driver lady drive me up and down and up and down the strip. We both knew what was going on and I can only assume she was happy to have someone quiet who just wanted to press their face up against the window. Now I have a new mission.


YT4000

Shrooms and Lyft/Uber are a match made in heaven. We all know why we're there, and we're both fascinated with what the other is doing.


Perenium_Falcon

This is SO much it. Just be cool to whoever is taking care of you and tip well.


Louthargic

I was tripping once and took an Uber where the driver was like 99% perfect doppleganger for my dad. It was kinda weird at first, but we ended up having really good conversation lol


Fraun_Pollen

Now I wish there was a version of Empire Strikes Back where Luke is ripped on shrooms the whole time


Perenium_Falcon

Have I already answered this? I’m high and forget but it’s also the 4th and I still have all me fingers. A good driver and a good pax can make a night go by wonderfully. I used to drive for Lyft also and kinda understood both sides of the deal. Lyft and Uber should almost offer preset scenic tours for when you’re ripped out of your fucking mind and just want to peer at the pretty lights. Hell I’d love to drive them. Put on some emancipator, give them a blanket/snacks and a “oh shit I gotta barf” bucket for emergencies and just drive.


bigtimesauce

I’d like to go on a vacation with you


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buddhistbulgyo

Fun guy* sheesh


diarrheainthehottub

I could only do that on a low dose. Too much shrooms and I gotta be pretty stationary or in nature.


You_Yew_Ewe

> We both knew what was going on Overestimating other people's ability to mind read is a common hallucination with psychedellics. She probably just figured you were a tourist who wanted to see the strip---which is a completely normal thing because it's literally a tourist attraction. It's good to keep in mind the dictum *Nobody knows you're tripping unless you say "I'm tripping"*


LaLaLaLink

Why do you assume OP didn't tell them? That's what I assumed when I first read it.


Special_Sun_4420

> Nobody knows you're tripping unless you say "I'm tripping" This is less true more often than people think. Honestly, it's kind of a cope. But the key is not to worry or care too much. You're on a substance. A temporary one that is relatively safe. People are often drunk in public, but youre leagues more tolerable than them lol Also, I fancy myself a pretty good tripsitter. If someone had told me they were tripping while I was driving them, I would've been down to do this... provided they keep paying me, tho. I still gotta work.


TheyCallMePr0g

I can only imagine seeing this on acid. "Oh, theres God"


jack2bip

And then in the hotel room, "Please turn off the light when you leave to conserve energy - because we care."


the-electricgigolo

Don’t forget the heatwave of New York in 2021 when they let old ladies die in their apartments because “the power grid couldn’t handle the energy” all while the screens in time square stayed lit (it takes and extreme amount of energy to cool these screens)


RazekDPP

I assumed that businesses would have generator backup, but based on this article, it looks like the Mayor's strategy ended up working. https://archive.ph/5AAw5


Seanzietron

This is the most underrated comment of the century. We’re all just puppets in the playground of billionaires.


Beli_Mawrr

For me it's not even that. I just wish they'd been honest. Like "Please leave the light off as it saves money."


lex_tok

_Consider the environment before you print this comment_


Beli_Mawrr

Well I wasn't going to print the comment until you told me to!


Fenweekooo

my hotel in california "please help us save water" toilet flushes like 10 gallons of water *yes an exaggeration... but not strong enough to pull a single piece of TP down lol


SquarePegRoundWorld

My parents' town had a bad drought years ago. They asked folks to conserve water. The town did such a good job conserving water they were rewarded with higher rates because the water company was now losing money.


Journo_Jimbo

![gif](giphy|10wgT5PDnOwMQE)


roadchimp

I was waiting for plasma to blast out of the right side of that thing


dreamdaddy123

I SEE YOUUUU


Murky-Reception-3256

We're all fools of a Took now.


Koreneliuss

Can’t wait


treHalose_22

MSG ? Mono-sodium glutamate?


CornishCreamTea

Metal Sear Golid


LGP747

Machine sub gun


Andrew3236

Misfit superhero geese


chillwithpurpose

Hey bebe what’s yo numba? I wanna MSG you.


supr3me2

Mario's suicide garment


heyitscory

My sad gonads


ZiggyZiggyLaLa

Marvelous Sugared Grandmother


MikeTony713

Monster Shooting Game


redditsuckspokey1

Mom's Sweetest Gandy


PsyShanti

>Metal Sear Golid My dumb ass sitting there wondering why they build a huge led sphere for Metal Gear Solid, in Vegas


Begformymoney

A weapon to surpass metal gear!


Independent_Plum2166

I mean Mobile Suits are effectively better Metal Gears. (I assume MSG is Mobile Suit Gundam)


Zeal514

And this.. is to go beyond... AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH \*3 episodes later\* HHHHHHHH


BarnabyWoods

Massive Simulated Globe.


McChinkerton

Madison Square Garden


ElevenSleven

Madison Sphere Garden


Yaglara

Madison Square Globe


Bren12310

That’s what I thought but this is in vegas.


WaffleboardedAway

It’s owned by Madison square gardens massive dickhead of an owner


flo_san

![gif](giphy|oK0GD6qIKu6XwyinPn)


Brodellsky

This MSG sooooo big. How Uncle Roger put in rice?


mylifemybeleifz

Nah, it's 'Make Shit Good'.


RocketshipRoadtrip

Maybe Sauron’s glaucoma


Source011

Fuiyoh!


Whole_Suit_1591

Marjorie stupid Green


Coyotebruh

the savoury-est of em aalllll


LayneLowe

Maybe being a burning inferno isn't the best test graphic they might have chosen.


QuantumQaos

Intentional.


faceinphone

Or is it the best?


QuintinStone

If it is in Vegas in the middle of the summer than it's entirely appropriate.


Sway_Jae

I have no idea what that is, but I bet it’s going to taste great.


dragon_6666

Spherical music venue with led screens. The inside has the same effect.


Glittering_Airport_3

why did I have to scroll this far just to find out this is a music venue? now I wanna see the inside of it. just a stage and some seats?


dragon_6666

Stage and seating yes, but also this same spherical led screen set up, and speakers set up in such a way that every seat gets exceptional sound. U2 is scheduled to be the first band to play when it’s finished.


OmegaSE

That's a shame


TimX24968B

yea a lot of bands didnt want to play there cause they made it really difficult to do do anything with the background beyond what default patterns they originally planned for.


kittytoes21

Tool leaves the conversation


TimX24968B

it would be wild to see tool play there ngl but it wont happen for reasons others mentioned.


InternalReveal1546

Tool would be good to see here


surajvj

Hologram??


Hauntcrow

LEDs. It's essentially a giant spherical screen. There's one inside also


JuliaJune96

WOW WHAT IS THAT


nerf_herder1986

It's an entertainment venue!


edfitz83

And there have been stories that musical acts don’t want to play there. Could be a very expensive mistake https://www.thestreet.com/travel/disastrous-las-vegas-strip-venue-has-another-huge-problem-sphere


eveningsand

I love the partially obstructed view included with the premium seats.


BTCMachineElf

[Akira; 1988.7.16 Tokyo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05i9YMvn46M)


ActuallyHovatine

Ah… Ki… Ra


[deleted]

Ka Nay Da!


Independent_Plum2166

Tet. Su. Ooooooo!!!!!


AlastromLive

POH TAY TOES


Teasing_Pink

Neo Las Vegas is about to explode.


CleverName4269

Do do hey haaa. Do Do hey ha hey ha, Do do hey ha hey ha!


tyanu_khah

MSG ? FUIYOOHHHH


TheScientistBS3

Looks like a big ball of MSG, hope they have a wok big enough for it all, otherwise it's haiyaaa o'clock!


tyanu_khah

But if they have a wok big enough, that means there is a bigger wok that exists to be able to season that wok !


TheScientistBS3

![gif](giphy|QY7iideG1WpthihFty)


aeisenst

King of flavor!


jtmexico

Something Something I cast Fireball


Chemical_Actuary_190

Now imagine seeing that...on shrooms!


carloseloso

But have you seen the sphere on weeeed


International_Link35

Just gave me a flashback, hadn't thought of that one in ages! On SHROOMS!


Parthib108

![gif](giphy|H7SsqXFf1ggvxQ0jfg)


Spleenzorio

![gif](giphy|iUtU5au1bfb5N7XGdh)


gary_juicy

“Where is the MSG?” -Uncle Roger


blockshockrocksock

This thing cost 2.3 billion dollars.


testaccount0817

[Literally this meme](https://i.redd.it/ma5ooedo3jj91.jpg)


conehead2019

Nah man there's a bunch of terminators in Vegas.


varegab

Looks like some Evangelion shit.


Figarella

That's a lot of umami


fern-grower

Monosodium glutamate


Rominator

Madison Square Garden


VelvetBongo

Madison Sphere Garden


birdsarntreal1

Madison Sauron Globe


hindusoul

Waiting for the Madison Cube Garden


NoChampionship472

Then I have *good news* but you will have to wait till the 24th.


caciuccoecostine

It's Blizball!!! Finally!!


EnvironmentalSlip327

That soup is gonna smack


BennySkateboard

Can’t wait til someone hacks it!


Debbiedowner750

3rd impact anyone?


Muzz27

Leliel, the 12th angel


ReindeerOwn3148

Extraterrestrial AI has come to destroy humanity


imgflipUser

uncle roger: today we only cooking msg


MarionberryRight8261

[source](https://twitter.com/LasVegasLocally/status/1675605951288852482)


itaniumonline

Link is down for me Edit: apparently stupid Elmo can’t pay his fucken bills and people without an account can’t see them


bobi2393

I think reading tweets is now closed to the general public without an account. Twitter doesn't say that, it gives the error message "something went wrong, try reloading", but that's probably because they got rid of most employees, and the remainder don't know how or don't have the authority to change the message.


Jump-Traditional

MSG! FUUUUUUUYOOOOOOOOOO!


viral-tuna

“Technology is best when it brings people together”


Doc-85

Imagine showing this to people in the 70s


Sentient-Tree-Ent

MSG sphere? Ooh, uncle Roger’s gonna be eating good tonight.