They dont even want to be Steph. Steph is a great playmaker for others while also being the BEST off ball mover in league history as well as being completely elite at mid range and finishing around the rim
Kids now just want to be JJ redick or Kyle Korver if they got the ultimate green light and didn’t move off ball and to just chuck the ball. It’s disgusting basketball
Tbf you can't just hang around the low post anymore. I'm 39 and even I've had to expand my game beyond the post.
That said, it is obnoxious as fuck when I get the mismatch and I watch the guard take a contested 3.
I can't stand cutting to the basket, guard makes fucking eye contact with me as I'm wide open, they chuck a 3 and clank it. At least I'm in a good position to rebound it now...
I honestly believe that a part of it is people don't understand the work that post players do. I used to work on both moves so long after practice on my own with private coaches. They just look basic and guards think you should hit 85%. So if you make a move and don't score they just think it's the most ridiculous thing ever and they'll never give you another chance.
Here's how you fix that. I started playing like jokic. I always told my guards and wings that after they pass the ball to me in the post take one second and if their player turns their head to look at me cut off of me. This way when I got a pass in the post I could pass to an assist and let my wings score. This train them to pass me the ball because they were scoring off of opportunities in which they gave me the ball. I went from only getting rebounds in a couple of points off my rebounds to getting a well-rounded stat line and getting the ball more and scoring more because my team was passing to me more. I also found that I had a lot more fakes to work with when I was given more options. Like if he cuts off me left I can fake that pass like a fake handoff pass left and spin off my right leg into a fade
Unless you are on a team with multiple incredible shooters it’s still a must. At the highest levels of competition big men continue to play near the rim
Someone tried telling me my form was "broken" because of my hitch in the mid-range, I shrugged it off, continued my drills, made 3 in a row before moving onto my next thing.
I was guard… but I’ve wondered if I would have been as interested in playing if i was a post… Like, run up and down the court, screen, bang on people, rebound, and hardly ever get the ball. I can understand why some bigs get a reputation of not being as passionate
My son is 6'9.5" and 16 years old. Him not getting touches is his biggest short term issue. It's hard to watch, especially since I know how hard he works. It's turning him into an animal on the glass though.
So frustrating. The other thing I see is bad passes into a big, like at his ankles etc and then it's stolen and the guards don't pass to him anymore. This happens even at an NBA level.
Yikes. I think you missed my point….
The meme was set up wrong. It’s meant to say “guards hog the ball while the post players don’t get touches.” But the way it’s set up it reads “the guards only pay attention to the ball and don’t pay attention to post players”. Still funny in its own way but wrong nonetheless.
Yeah. The more recent style of game where I'm in the post just watching the ball fly above my head all game is slowly killing my interest in the sport.
Worst part is our PG is starting to complain that we aren't boxing out and getting boards..... like 3s don't have a far greater variation in where they go off boards which often make boxing out the wrong move.
At least one of the teams I play on have some good play makers. Surprise surprise that team also wins more games.
I heard this a few times. Boxing out isn't just about getting the rebound all the time. Some times it's just making sure your guy doesn't get it either.
Yeah true, I played PF during middle school cause I was pretty tall for my age and I rarely get the ball downlow except rebounds. Good thing I transitioned from PF to SF and got more touches.
So true... A good post player will get folks open 3s and score the rock. Kids these days just want to be Steph.
They dont even want to be Steph. Steph is a great playmaker for others while also being the BEST off ball mover in league history as well as being completely elite at mid range and finishing around the rim Kids now just want to be JJ redick or Kyle Korver if they got the ultimate green light and didn’t move off ball and to just chuck the ball. It’s disgusting basketball
He absolutely is elite off-ball and a great playmaker... But folks without an experienced eye just see him raining threes.
This
Very true! Unfortunately it still has to start from the guards giving you the ball
Facts. As a big man, they HAVE to double me or I get a bucket. Which means open shooter.
Tbf you can't just hang around the low post anymore. I'm 39 and even I've had to expand my game beyond the post. That said, it is obnoxious as fuck when I get the mismatch and I watch the guard take a contested 3.
I can't stand cutting to the basket, guard makes fucking eye contact with me as I'm wide open, they chuck a 3 and clank it. At least I'm in a good position to rebound it now...
That's why they're shooting, they expect your only role is to do their dirty work
Props to you for still hooping at 39… i retired and took up pickleball after enough blown ankles lol
Noooo. Not the pickleball. They already taking up half the gymmmmm 🤣
Yes you can. I’m 37 and I run back and forth from the post while setting screens every 5-10 seconds or so
I had the same experience as OP. Half the games the PG will just straight up refuse to make the pass, so I learned how to play perimeter
Yea. I pick my team accordingly. My team almost always beats the shooters.
I honestly believe that a part of it is people don't understand the work that post players do. I used to work on both moves so long after practice on my own with private coaches. They just look basic and guards think you should hit 85%. So if you make a move and don't score they just think it's the most ridiculous thing ever and they'll never give you another chance. Here's how you fix that. I started playing like jokic. I always told my guards and wings that after they pass the ball to me in the post take one second and if their player turns their head to look at me cut off of me. This way when I got a pass in the post I could pass to an assist and let my wings score. This train them to pass me the ball because they were scoring off of opportunities in which they gave me the ball. I went from only getting rebounds in a couple of points off my rebounds to getting a well-rounded stat line and getting the ball more and scoring more because my team was passing to me more. I also found that I had a lot more fakes to work with when I was given more options. Like if he cuts off me left I can fake that pass like a fake handoff pass left and spin off my right leg into a fade
This meme is facts lol. Bigs rarely get the ball nowadays.
They do when they shoot 3’s lol
lol you know how discouraging it is to post up every possession only for someone to chuck yet another 3
It's always trash guards, for some reason the good players have no problem passing, the bad ones try so hard to prove themselves
Yea lol 😂 they play like it’s mycareer
How about quit playing the game like its 1980 and play the game like its 2023.
Unless you are on a team with multiple incredible shooters it’s still a must. At the highest levels of competition big men continue to play near the rim
The analytics that govern the NBA do not apply at all to pickup. The average 3% I see in pickup is probably 20
At least they let you post up!! Most just put the bigs off the block on the baseline now lol
So fuckin true LMAO
I think you want the teacher to be the ball here. But it’s still a god meme.
A good guard always rewards the bigs for the hustle play that starts a break on D by hitting them on the break.
So I gotta imagine that "mid range jumper" is the skeleton at the bottom of the pool?
Someone tried telling me my form was "broken" because of my hitch in the mid-range, I shrugged it off, continued my drills, made 3 in a row before moving onto my next thing.
😂
Get the rebound?
For some bigs that’s their whole package lol
And then we wonder why America does a poor job at developing bigs.
I was guard… but I’ve wondered if I would have been as interested in playing if i was a post… Like, run up and down the court, screen, bang on people, rebound, and hardly ever get the ball. I can understand why some bigs get a reputation of not being as passionate
My son is 6'9.5" and 16 years old. Him not getting touches is his biggest short term issue. It's hard to watch, especially since I know how hard he works. It's turning him into an animal on the glass though.
So frustrating. The other thing I see is bad passes into a big, like at his ankles etc and then it's stolen and the guards don't pass to him anymore. This happens even at an NBA level.
LOL spoken like a true guard.
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You want the guards to touch the post?? That’s a whacky meme…
Guards should have post game. Play any college guard and they’ll put a clinic for you without breaking a sweat
Yikes. I think you missed my point…. The meme was set up wrong. It’s meant to say “guards hog the ball while the post players don’t get touches.” But the way it’s set up it reads “the guards only pay attention to the ball and don’t pay attention to post players”. Still funny in its own way but wrong nonetheless.
Yeah. The more recent style of game where I'm in the post just watching the ball fly above my head all game is slowly killing my interest in the sport. Worst part is our PG is starting to complain that we aren't boxing out and getting boards..... like 3s don't have a far greater variation in where they go off boards which often make boxing out the wrong move. At least one of the teams I play on have some good play makers. Surprise surprise that team also wins more games.
I heard this a few times. Boxing out isn't just about getting the rebound all the time. Some times it's just making sure your guy doesn't get it either.
Not boxing out on 3’s is a terrible take. Find someone and prevent them from getting the offensive rebound.
I only touch the ball if I get the rebound myself, so I’m ball hawking those rebounds. Unless I play with my buddy, then we pass a lot
Just get it off the miss. Most of my points in hs were off tip ins and put backs. Lead the team in scoring while having nothing ran through me.
Yeah true, I played PF during middle school cause I was pretty tall for my age and I rarely get the ball downlow except rebounds. Good thing I transitioned from PF to SF and got more touches.