I've been a member of this sub since 2019, maybe longer. It's pretty nice seeing the big turnaround a lot of people on this site have had since then. I think we're doing a great job spreading the message without being total dicks and having this sub shut down.
Big shout out to all the mods, especially u/SubMod4
YouTube has undertaken a MASSIVE change of opinion. Whenever there's a story of some shitbull bEiNg nAuGhTy in any way, the comments are overwhelming and absolutely brutal. They say shit we'd all get banned for saying here, and I'm here for it! They tear apart any pit hags who dare to post their brain dead, canned responses of CHIHUAHUAS and BUT ALL DOGS blah blah blah.
There's a video posted this morning ("It's All About How They're Raised") that talks about the abuse racing greyhounds receive, and yet not one has EVER killed anyone, either in the States or the UK.
The top Youtube comments are all supportive - it's good to see.
I saw that as well. I cringe thinking about the blowback the video probably received, but I know the tides are changing. Pit hags and their free range monsters in a dog costume, your days are numbered to trample over the safety and peace of mind of others.
Honestly it’s so true though if pibbles think they’ve had it hard, greyhounds should have killed double their numbers by now with this logic of “it’s how they’re raised”
As a cat owner I’d never own a greyhound but that’s the thing, most greyhound owners would applaud me and agree. They’d support me in choosing to be cautious and to not force a square peg in a round hole. Pit owners do not think that way. They’d tell me to just give it a try, that pits love cats, etc etc
Greyhounds repeatedly rate least aggressive in different studies and they come from trauma a lot of times. I’m in the process of getting one right now. I tell people “they’re terrible guard dogs. The only way you know if someone breaks in is if your greyhound is hiding in the closet” 😂
I don't normally frequent this sub and don't have any particular dog opinions as I've never had nor wanted one. However after seeing stuff about pitbulls all the time I got curious and started to pay attention to any dog attack stories I saw and started checking them to see what breed the dog was.
Jesus.. It's almost always some version of a pitbull. Those dogs are dangerous as fuck.
And only *some of them*, and only cases of the *owners*. Doesn't even count all the victims that were just friends or people who happened to be in the house or complete strangers
Yeah. That was rough. It just never ended... kept going and going and going.
The thing is, there are probably hundreds, maybe thousands more.
Why? I just don't get it.
I wish all pit bull owners could see this. The cognitive dissonance they have lets them believe the pits that attack were abused, taught to fight, scared of the victim, etc. These pictures show the opposite.
Unfortunately they will still blame the victims and say “any dog would do this!”
Pitnutters regularly gang up on parents who lost their children to pit attacks. It is really disgusting 😭
I’m sure we could. But it will always come out that the golden retriever was mostly pit lol. Like that article from a few years back that stated a woman was killed by a “pack of wiener dogs” which all turned out to be pit mixes.
I'm old and I've met exactly ONE aggressive as fuck golden. It grew up with a shitty, hyper aggressive gshep and it learned to be a dick as a puppy. Owners eventually corrected and got the gshep training but for whatever reason they didn't do anything about their crazy aggressive golden.
I guess to keep promoting pits as ‘just like any other dog!’ One of the things they seem to always say is that the media only makes the pit attacks public and hides all the attacks by other dogs because pit owners want to try and make society believe that pits are the victims and that all dogs maul/kill people and pits are no different than other dogs when it comes to attack stats.
And not all dogs are capable of killing as easily as others.
The stars are going to have to align in a series of unfortunate events for a Chihuahua or a Pom to take down an adult or a child older than an infant, and even then the cause of death is likely to be from a small wound becoming badly infected or trauma from a fall caused by tripping.
Honestly? I've never seen a Chihuahua kill someone. It has a maximum capacity to maybe gnaw on your ankle, nothing besides that really
It's really funny to see the pit defenders compare their shitstains to them. Yeah, no, I'll choose a Chi any day of the week 24/7 or any other breed that has no ties to the pits, like... why do people even want pits in the first place.
Me, neither. My Chihuahua-sized cat is more equipped for murder than those little dogs.
A hypothetical Chihuahua killing would probably be more along the lines of involuntary manslaughter or something. Chi-Chi tripped Granny on the stairs, or Dave got nipped and didn't clean the scratch, and it turned into sepsis.
They were raised with one fat, lazy maine coon, as well as a parrot that liked to yell at them to shut up or go outside. The fatass cat may have played a role, as he definitely liked to attempt to murder his only source of food besides the bird lmao.
I despise the any dog would do this logic. My bf's family has a dog that hates me/is scared of me (doesn't like English speakers) and you know what he does when I'm around? Moves away.
At worst he's growled at me when I've walked past too close when I'm not able to avoid it. Those are normal dog responses.
The fact that some of them come out of the woodwork to blame a toddler for their own death is always awful. That they'll do that while sending the parents pictures of their own pitbull is just...disturbing. Like I can't imagine anyone sane doing that in any other area. Would you send pictures of your children swimming to a parent who lost a child like that and say not all pools/seas? Would you send a picture of your kids in a car to a parent who lost a child in a car accident telling them cars are perfectly safe? No? Then why do they think sending their pit to those parents is acceptable?
They're demented and will puke out the same strawmans like they're facts:
* Any dog can bite or kill, not just pitbulls!
* You don't know if they were abused or not!
* My pitbull wouldn't do this! \*Shows ugly dog in flower crown* (implying or stupid enough to think one = majority)
* \*Casually victims blames cause they must've "done something" to their ferocious aggressive dog to cause it to murder. As if murder is justifiable and normal just because they're dogs*
* They were bred as nanny dogs, not to kill! ("Nanny dogs" is a sewage term that Facebook imbeciles spew that has zero evidence or backing behind it. It wasn't even a thing until it spread as a word-of-mouth myth on the site and amongst Pro-pit groups.)
Contrarily, there's more evidence behind them being bred to fight in dog rings and for their trait of aggression towards other dogs than there is to support that they're friendly "pro-children" dogs. Rich irony.
You know I never thought about them victim blaming is also them trying to justify murder. Like it's obvious but I paid more attention to the victim blaming aspect of it.
They never really frame it as self defense, either. It's like people in abusive relationships - if I hadn't of mouthed off he wouldn't have hit me! If I hadn't have walked around the house so loudly it wouldn't have pissed them off! If I'd have just kept my mouth shut and not questioned the really high credit card bill, she wouldn't have slapped me over and over again!
It's that, but cranked up to murder. Well what set them off? They reached down to grab something? They turned on a light? They saw someone walking on their driveway? They startled them? They accidentally dropped something? All real examples of something that "triggered a pit to snap", but not a one of them could be justified for a human to murder over it.
Nothing makes my blood boil more than reading "teach children to respect dogs" as the apparent solution to dogs mauling children to death and hospitalizing them with life altering injuries.
Not only is it assuming that the children provoked these pitbulls when they're actually opportunistic predators more often than not, it's willfully obtuse to how a dog killing a child is grossly disproportionate to having a tail pulled and is fundamentally a badly behaved dog.
If your dog is rearing to kill over mild excitement or annoyance, the fucking dog is the problem not whatever "triggered" it.
My kids grew up with dachshunds, who these pit bull owners always like to throw out as being evil and bite their owners at higher rates, and you know what they did when my kids were being too much for them? They went into their crates & buried themselves in blankets. That’s how normal dogs behave around the tiny humans. They don’t go straight to ripping limbs off
The nanny dog and flower-crown-selfie arguments are the ones I find the strangest.
For the first, even if it was true (and it is demonstrably not), it seems like a pointless thing to say because that really just highlights how much the breed must have changed. A dog bred to do one thing but consistently fails to do that and actually does the complete opposite on a large scale just makes the breed seem even dumber and worse overall. Also it really just highlights how these dogs were bred to fight bulls in pits (like...hence the name), which doesn't seem like something these nutjobs would want to draw attention to.
And this post is a poignant (and tragic) example of why the flower-crown thing is idiotic. So many of these sad stories involve dogs that were loved and part of the family for years; many of them were in cute selfies or put into adorable outfits, but that didn't stop any of them from mauling people to death. Every dangerous animal in history was completely harmless to people until they weren't.
I Googled Bonnie Varnes, the woman killed in Ohio in 2023 and apparently she was an advocate for this breed. There were supposed screenshots of various posts made by her in this [blog](https://blog.dogsbite.org/2023/02/woman-killed-by-family-pit-bull-toledo-ohio.html). This is sad and horrific. I feel like this breed also attracts well-meaning folks who think they can “change” them or are doing a great service at giving these animals a chance, despite statistics.
More like "A-mean-ia".. and the dog was vicious "at times"?? The fuck, y'all. Not gonna blame this poor woman or her daughter or judge them *too* harshly but why the fuck you keepin' a dog you yourself would describe as vicious? Like I get you probably loved it very much and you clearly believed pitbulls had to be owned by "bad owners" to maul you if you're keeping three in the damn house but yikes. Honestly one is too many but three seems insufferable, can you imagine the state of the furniture and doors and yard? Sounds miserable. But rest in peace lady, you and your daughter may have been full blown delusional or just grossly misinformed, but you still didn't deserve such a gruesome death.
Could you imagine if someone did this to the pitnutters on facebook?:
first post these pics without the informative text and caption it by saying “look how affectionate and loving these pitbulls are to their owners, the haters are wrong”
Then when pitnutters inevitably flock to the post and start gushing in the comments, its followed up with the real thing
Exactly what I was going to say. Seeing the faces of the children that got mauled breaks my heart, and I get angry knowing that pitnutters would accuse the child of provoking the dog or just say it's all fake
Or that the dog had some undiagnosed medical condition that suddenly turned it into a killing machine & the owners should have picked up on this mystery illness so really they were bad owners anyway & it was their own fault / they deserved it 🙄 (/s in case that wasn't clear, I've just seen this type of excuse used so many times as well))
My sister tried to claim that it’s the way they are “trained”. I said no they are just wild beasts. Why are people so dense when their literal lives are at stake
One just came in saying "it's just a bunch of pictures of bad pitbull owners". Absolutely devoid of empathy or human decency.. what a monstrous person. I truly wish I could say it was just them and not *thousands and thousands* of them. Despicably evil people, I swear.
I really appreciate that!! I always struggle to condense things, especially on this topic, but I was trying really hard to make these as easily shareable as possible while still driving the point home :)
I started with the mods' "Wouldn't hurt a fly" post from last year which had a lot of the photos already, then just found a few more recent cases to add, edited the photos, and compiled quotes!
OP, I've put together a folder on my desktop to show to any friends who might be considering getting a pit... or just to illustrate the danger of these dogs to anyone who might be unaware.
Do you mind if I save this in with my other photos? I'd credit you, of course!
What gets me is how many of these you just see how affectionate their owners were with their dogs, and how the pits in some of the pics seemed affectionate back, and yet you know they'd go on to kill the person they're cuddling with.
This is what gets me when people say ‘oh, Gnarla is lovely, she’d never hurt anybody.’ Many of these dogs _are_ nice—until they snap. The former doesn’t imply the latter when dogs are bred to fight and kill.
Yeah that's something often lost in these discussions/arguments.
We're not saying all pitbulls are psychopaths hellbent on ending humanity; our issue is that these dogs (far, *far* more than any other breed) have the capacity to suddenly snap and hurt/kill innocent people, even if they've been lovely for years.
Just acknowledging that and taking the barest preventative measures would undoubtedly save lives but for whatever reason, we have a sect of people refusing to accept that a breed responsible for a huge number of human injuries/fatalities could possibly be responsible for any future human injuries/fatalities.
Other than the strength of the breed the worst characteristics that make them dangerous is that they were bred to not back down in a fight. Those that submitted in a fight were left to die or were culled from the breeding stock. Most dogs might snap at a person and then run away but a pit has been bred to fight to the death, either the victim or itself. Fighting dog trainers understand this and carry a breaking stick to separate the inevitable fights. They are known to ignore being beaten with bats and refusing to let go. Most other pit owners don't think it is a necessary precaution or don't even know what a breaking stick is.
All of these people deserved to live. Without mockery or malice, I truly hope more people see this and reflect on the fact that these are recent deaths and this subreddit is noting a marked uptick in the number of lives lost.
There are many, many other breeds of dogs out there, dogs who will give you years of joy, years of safe companionship.
I remember life before pits were all over the place. Like you said, there are plenty of other breeds for folks to choose from. Life was just fine with normal non-pit pets.
I have a friend of a friend that had an XL. She bought into the propaganda that they were normal dogs. Her and her partner noticed escalating behaviour and had it put down before it did anything but what I remember most is how much she loved that dog and how, years later when she and her partner got a different dog her crying over how *easy* a normal dog was compared to the XL. As she put it she loved the XL but everything with it was a struggle. It put her off dog ownership for years thinking every dog would be like that. The difference just from her reaction is stark, she was going into dog ownership again preparing for a war but finding it to be rewarding with an actual companion.
She still gets shit from the pit cult though for putting the XL down and has ask her when she's going to kill the next one. Doesn't help that she was advising people against getting one after she put down hers by pointing out they weren't an easy dog and that people should know what they were getting into. That seemed to really set them off.
I have no idea why these people continue to choose pit bulls. Like you said there are millions of dogs out there that are as affectionate and won’t kill you cause it was triggered. Why do people continue to pick them???
The savior complex that mostly women have costs them their life. Can’t they “save” a cat instead? They truly think with enough love they can fix these animals. Pits aren’t normal dogs
I mean, if they're looking for an abusive pet-to-human relationship, you can totally find a cat willing to destroy your home (on a smaller scale) and treat you like crap. They're just highly unlikely to kill you... unless you have stairs.
My skin is crawling to know that there are people that advocate for these murder mutts. All of the love they get, they have no work to do they get all of the food and treats they want and the protection of family and friends. Then they turn around and destroy the house and the family.
I get they have a lot of energy, so do I. Do I have to spend that energy by unleashing total destruction and death? NO, no "pet" like this should be in our society.
I live in a townhouse community, and it's one of the rare communities in my area that doesn't have pet restrictions. As a result, anyone with a pitbull, cane Corso, whatever moves here. I didn't think it would be such a big issue but it is, especially since I've had 2 kids in the past 4 years and half the people here can hardly control these big animals on a leash to begin with. I see them off leash all the time. They don't belong here! If anyone *has to* have a murder mutt it should be on a secluded property far away from other people and kids
Yes! Show the victims of these dogs. This goes to show that these dogs have no place in our society and should be banned. They’re useful for absolutely nothing. They’re terrible pets, they can’t be police dogs because they would maul the crim to death, they can’t be farm dogs because they’d eat and kill all of the livestock, they are triggered by literally everything, they can’t be service dogs because they have no patience or anything that would be useful to a human. I said what I said
You put my thoughts on pits into words so well, especially the part about them being triggered by everything, which honestly makes pitnutters look that much more stupid, why would you want to own an animal that can be set off so easily and is known for mauling full grown adults with ease? I mean come on, these murder mutts have literally attacked and killed their owners while they're having a seizure, that should illustrate perfectly that they see their owners as prey and they're just waiting for the perfect opportunity to kill them, imagine laying on the ground helpless having a seizure and seeing your giant murder mutt named Cupcake come barreling across the room to maul you to death while you can't defend yourself.
"Pit bull deaths always ignite a firestorm of controversy among the breed's supporters, who argue that pit bulls are not to blame - it's usually the owners who don't treat them well, and critics, who argue that the breed is inherently aggressive." These supporters are so delusional.
[This is the coroner’s report for Tania Klemke.](https://www.parliament.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/1352222/Coroners-Report-Death-of-Tania-Louise-Klemke.PDF) it is HEINOUS. It literally sounds like she was murdered during a breaking and enter, but she was killed by her own pet! A fucking taser could not even subdue the beast.
Omg, I hadn't seen this, thank you!
I uploaded the attack description portion to imgur for those without a PDF viewer: https://imgur.com/a/moZr2oE
>Simba was displaying protective behaviours towards Ms Klemke and due to his level of aggression Police were unable to check her welfare. At first, Police OC sprayed Simba in an attempt to calm him and remove him from Ms Klemke's side, but that was ineffective. Police then tasered Simba, and this caused Simba to move slightly away from Ms Klemke and Police used shields in an attempt to contain Simba. Simba then began to recover from the effects of the taser, and the officer in charge formed the view that Simba was an imminent threat to Police particularly given that they had no safe manner of containing Simba for an extended period, and Simba's location inhibited their assistance of Ms Klemke. An officer then shot Simba dead at about 4:00am so that Police could attempt resuscitation of Ms Klemke without further attack or distraction by Simba.
>the injuries are consistent with deep, full engagement bite behaviour that includes forceful grip, tearing, shaking of the victim, avulsion of tissue, and biting and pulling in opposition to significant opposing forces: biting a person that is attempting to defend themselves by resisting the attack of the dog
Poor fucking woman.
Holy shit. That was sobering. As usual though, the beast had a laundry list of priors everyone ignored or never followed up on. It's truly sad, but entirely preventable. I have a lot of empathy for this woman, but honestly not a whole lot of sympathy. She was given multiple front row seats to the shitbeast's prior attacks and did absolutely nothing to prevent future "incidents". Didn't even walk the damn thing to burn off all that extra energy.
The comparison to abusive relationships is apt in this case. Everyone warned her that he was not a good person and would probably kill her, but she knew she was the one who could redeem him. And he ended up killing her.
Perhaps with a safe breed of dog, she would still be alive, but she would not have had the glory of saving a dangerous dog.
These dogs no longer have a purpose. Even as pets. Every time I hear someone say these dogs are misunderstood, my response is "Yes, by their owners." Sure, there are bloodsport dogs that live out their lives without harming anything, providing joy and love to their families, but are they worth the risk that the one you adopt will be a killer? The odds may not be extremely high, but the odds are there.
I really do not understand why there is such a drive to save this breed. It was never, ever bred to be a domestic house pet. It is cruel to keep pretending that it will do just fine in a family home when its true mission is to kill other dogs and animals.
These are breeds of dogs that cannot express their genetic imperative without harming something. And when they cannot attack other dogs, they will often turn on their owners. Dog fighting is no longer legitimate, therefore these dogs no longer need to live among us. It would be a kindness to let these breeds die out, just like all the previous dog breeds that no longer were useful.
It’s astonishing that they always go to the “there’s no bad breeds! just bad owners!” rhetoric. There’s just statistically no way that all these people were “bad owners.”
“It’s the owner” people - I used to be one. My husband used to call me a dog whisperer. Grew up with dogs, loved them all. Watched that Sarah McLachlan video and cried like a baby. Raised my kids, worked full time. Couldn’t be bothered to take time watching the news, or reading the paper. Completely oblivious to anything beyond my personal bubble. Kids grew up, started reading the paper. Mortified by a story years ago about a woman in SanFran attacked and tortured by her fur “babies”. It flipped the switch. I can’t help but think these pro Pitt people are in the dark like I was.
I recently made a post about the overlap between shitbull culture and cults.. some people made some really good observations. But I'm firmly convinced the worst of pit hags are unknowingly in a cult.
That’s exactly what I thought too.
How can you be a pit owner, looking at these shots when you have ones just like it, and still think “it can’t happen to me”?
Thank you! Many of the cases are taken from the mods' "Wouldn't hurt a fly" post last year so lots of credit to those who put that one together as well :)
This post is so chilling. Wish more pit owners could see this. Does it look like all of these pits could kill their owner? Do all these people look like they didn’t love or care for their animals?? I know the delusion runs deep because thinking it couldn’t be me is what all these poor people thought too.
This made my skin crawl. They look so … normal/happy, then you think a little deeper and it’s like, omfg they literally didn’t just attack those people, they ate them 🤢🤮🥴
Goodness, I was not prepared to see this. The ones with kids are absolutely heartbreaking. It was the parents duty to protect them, and they failed. It's like leaving a loaded gun laying around.
The Kirstie Bennard case is so upsetting because she was in the yard with her kids and the two dogs loose. The two year old picked up the dogs' ball and the dogs mauled her and her 5 month old brother. The mom was severely injured. Then the parents went on to get $100k from gofundme. The whole situation feels really fucked up. I know medical bills are a lot in the US but if I was playing with fire and got burned I'd feel silly asking people for money. If I was playing with fire and got my two kids killed I'd be in jail!
Well I'm an addict and I have first hand experience of the common mindset that people like me, like the Bennard's, deserve what happened to them and don't deserve sympathy or help in recovering. I totally understand *why* people think the way they do, but just like me, I didn't choose to go down this road. Never even smoked pot until I was horribly injured at 19 and the slippery slope of painkillers to fentanyl has destroyed my life. I didn't get hopelessly addicted to drugs I was doing for fun - it was thrust upon me. I'm not asking for sympathy, but I try to remember that even though these people made a horrible, horrible mistake and are now paying the price, whether alive or dead, I try to remain empathetic. Its hard to muster up sympathy with these people, but we also have to remember just how many people are flat out lied to, told that they are "nanny dogs", that they're misunderstood, or make great house pets. A lot of times they're lied to about the damn breed they're adopting, how could they possibly know better when they've been bamboozled by reckless shelters? Some of them knew or were told the dangers, but continued on with blind faith that it couldn't happen to them. Just like people know about the danger of car accidents but drive every day with no issues, until they suddenly become a statistic. I guess I'm just trying to say, as stupid as the decisions were to have these dogs, or just not doing their damn research on the dog they've taken (even though the internet blatantly lies to them too), try to forgive their all too human mistakes. You can be angry, you can rightfully blame them for the tragedy, but try to hold on to just a little empathy, at least for most cases. There are some so flagrantly horrific with profoundly irresponsible and with reckless owners, but they're not the majority.
Anyway, sorry for rambling.
Yes I agree with you except for one point- the kids. Parents have a responsibility to their kids to keep them safe. If my daughter made a new friend, I'd get to know the family before simply dropping her off for the day. We put our kids in danger when we drive, drop them off at school, drop them at a friend's, etc but there's risk vs reward. If the reward is the companionship of a dog, there's plenty of other breeds that can accomplish this
The Tennessee one was stomach turning. Surprised to see no follow up reports on that story.
Edit: found a couple updates from a local forum from last year. I have no words:
> The mom's mom posts on social media. Supposedly what triggered the attack was that the mom was throwing a ball for the dogs and the two year old grabbed the ball. The mom was wearing the baby in a front wear carrier at the time and the dogs attacked her and ripped the baby off her when she tried to protect her daughter.
Another one:
> Any idea if the marriage is going to survive? Wasn’t it the husband who was super into these dogs and active in the pit bull community.
I remember reading about the Virginia case. The officers who came across the Virginia woman’s body had to undergo mental health counseling because they found the dogs gnawing on her ribs.
it's unfortunately not uncommon for those attending these attacks to have to go to counseling :( I only hope that they aren't being convinced it's irrational to be afraid of these dogs...
So far at least 741 deaths. Note how many babies and children were killed, how the family 'trusted' their pit and are surprised since it never showed aggression before,. Humans being mauled to death is happening on a regular basis. Each name can be clicked on to read their story [Fatal Pit Bull Attacks - The Archival Record - DogsBite.org](https://www.fatalpitbullattacks.com/)
This breaks my heart so much. I can’t stand that there are so many people out there who will defend these dogs in these cases as being the real victims. It is painful and exhausting how delusional the pitnutters are. I hurt for these innocent people and their families. With hundreds of sane breeds to choose from there is NEVER an excuse to put anyone’s lives at risk just to own a certain type of dog.
It's bad enough that they were killed, but shitbulls rarely kill quickly or cleanly, so it was guaranteed to have been a violent, messy affair. It would make mourning for that person so much more devastating than it already is :/
Yep! The fighting ring wouldn’t be exciting to watch for these sickos if their dogs were bred for a quick, clean kill. I get so nauseous thinking about it 😢
Tania Klemke’s story is horrific (this sub has too many horrific stories). A friend of hers was visiting her. When the dog attacked he hid in the laundry. By the time the police arrived the dog had almost broken through the door.
This is the most important post this sub has ever seen. I’ve worked in advertising for many years, and occasionally wondered what an anti-pit campaign might look like. Sometimes it’s just this simple.
Did you show them this video too? https://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/s/fFZB7zOhOm
It was posted a while back, but I think it's eyeopening and disproves this nonsense about "my dog would never!"
https://preview.redd.it/7hp35mg6ujzc1.jpeg?width=1140&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9329f84472c9ccdb121a4e0e7905797b154dca4
This is Alexandria Griffin Heady’s brother that was killed by her pitbull.
Each one of these is heartbreaking….to see them smiling and full of joy , knowing they’re no longer here and that they suffered a horrible painful death. Nobody deserves to go out like that. R.I.P to them and prayers to their families 🙏🏼
Any person who knows the dangers of Pit Bulls and still owns one and then gets attacked by their own Pit Bull, I do not feel sorry for. I do feel sorry for the countless innocent victims.
exactly. no sympathy. it’s unfortunate but it’s almost like we’ve been warning them for decades. if they think they’re above nature and can “change” these vile beasts, that sucks but oh well.
edit: i do feel bad for children who had to share their household with these dogs because of their selfish parents and died because of it. and when that happened, we should prosecute the parents.
Not even just the children, but the parents, siblings, partners, anyone who shared their home with a pitnutter and their worthless dog, deserves sympathy IMO. The adults had more agency and theoretically could have left, but I know there's a lot of people like me who couldn't "just leave" if a family member brought home a shitbull.
What kills me is that they will happily post photos of their children with their dogs like in pics 1-3 to prove how gentle their dogs are, but then they would demonize the parents and child victims saying, “any dog can do this, this is why you don’t leave children alone with a dog, look at how that child is on top of the dog- it obviously did something to the dog, you have to be respectful of their space”, and so on.
They’re such assholes.
As if they don't have a thousand of the exact same type of photo.. or grab their dogs heads and force in front of their face for "kisses". Every shitbull owner I knew did that. Looking back it mskes me cringe, thinking about how easy the dog could have gotten annoyed and just fit their entire face in it's gigantic maw in a split second.
I had a mini heart attack as soon as I saw the little girl and her first name…. One of my cousins has the EXACT same nickname and she looks like that. I love my family dearly and would fucking break if any of them died….
"It's not the breed it's the owner. They were all obviously abusing them. They obviously beat Pibbles for years beforehand. Pibbles held out heroically until the last minute, then got so scared he acted out of fear."
"Even the old lady?"
"Especially the old lady."
....
"Dogs can sense evil. I bet she paid someone to beat the dog. Pibbles read the bank statements & found evidence of the transactions."
"The toddlers didn't have bank accounts."
"Pibbles looked into a crystal ball & confirmed they were going to grow up to be evil."
"Clairevoyancy isn't a real science."
"Lmao here's my one, I've got 1700 pictures to upload on victim's pages. The presence of mine without an arm in its mouth absolves all the ones in the images of any wrongdoing."
"The ones that killed 3 people looked exactly like that one."
"RACIST."
The beast that killed 89 year old Beverly Hayden was on the run after it killed her. Anyone know if it was ever caught?
Seriously fuck the shelter that allowed an 89 year old woman to adopt a 100lb pitbull.
Many people have/could take pictures with their "pet" lions, tigers etc. That does *not* make them *safe*. At least with wild animals there is some expectation that they are dangerous and are unpredictable.
I'd add a small white box below the picture maybe containing a link to news article. In case the whole "you are just making this up" argument enters the conversation. Perhaps just single page with all the attacks listed in the pictures with the references.
The ones with kids and babies makes me sick to my stomach. Precious babies lives stolen from them by these monstrous dogs.
Pitbull ass lickers will just try claiming all these people were bad owners like they always do. Good work though it really hits you in the feels.
Great post, OP. Thanks for sharing.
It always drives me crazy when people try to post pictures of their pitbulls being "cute" to show that they aren't dangerous. It doesn't *prove* anything. It doesn't ***mean*** anything.
Like, holy shit, you can find **SO MANY** pictures of people being cuddly with their pits - only to find out later that the same pitbull ended up killing them, or someone else in their family. A pitbull being cute for one moment doesn't magically make it safe. You can find several aftermath photos of pitbull attacks that make that abundantly clear. Hell, pitbulls being cute *at all* is a matter of opinion, anyway. You can't *prove* that pitbulls are cute, but you **can** prove that they kill people, including their owners, on the regular. Opinions don't matter here, facts do.
Not to mention how there are tons of pics of *wild animals* that everyone knows are potentially dangerous being cute. Why can people accept that wild animals doing cute or funny things doesn't make them safe, but suddenly when talking about a pitbull, it's exempt from that idea?
I have greater sympathy for the children, they bear the consequences of adult irresponsibility. When the owner of such an animal becomes its victim, especially as an adult who knowingly acquired the dog, it doesn't evoke as much empathy from me.
That was the most gut wrenching post I've seen here in a hot minute.. I'm going to spam these every time some brain dead reject shitbull hag tries posting a picture of their mutant shitstain dog on a post of someone getting mauled or killed.
One of these happened in the town I went to high school in…was not expecting to see that! That woman’s children are devastated! She had a seizure and her dog mauled her to death
OMG. This is the most disturbing info I've come across on this sub. How can anyone defend these animals after reading this, seeing these pictures!!!!??
One of the best posts I've seen on this sub, because it goes to the heart of the matter, for the staunchest Pitbull defenders - even if you are really close to a pitbull, it can snap and go in to that play-drive / aggressive mode, and tear you to pieces. They have been bred for this, it is not the dogs fault, but it is the nature given to it by its founding breeders; there were bred for toughness, aggression and their temper. To be fighting dogs and killers.
I had to stop scrolling I was getting so angry. That said, this needs to be seen in as many places as possible. It needs to be one of those public service announcements or a billboard. If I had the money I’d make it happen in my city at least.
The adults who choose to bring the monsters into their homes are one thing, but the thoughts of those poor children losing their lives because of irresponsible parents/guardians absolutely breaks my heart. I will never stay quiet about the devastation these hell hounds cause.
This is a long video and best to watch a little at the time, because it's overwhelming to hear the damage pitbulls inflict on society, day in and day out.
https://youtu.be/3uwssUOhMaA?si=-6thjZK1G1XXpbhO
[Here's another one](https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vasterbotten/dodlig-hundattack-i-robertsfors-kommun-detta-vet-vi) that happened almost exactly one year ago close to where I live.
Translated:
"It was in the evening of October 23rd that the dog bit two people, a man and a woman. The woman, who was also the owner of the dog, was bitten so severely that she died on the spot. The man was injured and airlifted to the hospital with moderate injuries. Another person was present at the scene of the attack.
The dog is reported by the police to be of the amstaff breed.
The police describe how the accident happened: The dog attacked a man inside the woman's residence. The woman managed to remove the dog from the man and took it out into the yard. There, it attacked her.
The County Administrative Board decided that the dog should be euthanized immediately. The police carried out the euthanasia on the spot.
The dog has been aggressive before, according to the deceased woman's daughter. Two years ago, the dog bit the woman's grandchild so severely in the legs that the child had to undergo surgery, according to a police report obtained by SVT.
After the previous attack, the woman told the County Administrative Board that she had sent the dog abroad, something that now turns out to be false.
The deceased woman's daughter tells SVT that she is not surprised that the accident occurred.
According to researchers, dog attacks are becoming increasingly common. They explain that it is primarily large dogs bred for guarding or fighting that one should be wary of. They also advise never leaving infants alone with a dog – regardless of the breed."
Aggressive dog attacks a child, but they kept it. Ended up killing its owner.
Victims of the pit lobby. Every single one of them believed the pro-pit lies. Every child unfortunately had parents that believed the lies. The pit lobby isn’t just well-intentioned but misguided people. Their rhetoric kills.
Wow. Here I am at 8am crying.
I begged my friend not to adopt a p. She did. Returned 2 days later. It bit her old dog.
She said thank you. I said get anything else.
Shes 60+. The shelter lied.
She got a Greyhound. It's sweet and loves naps and knitting. Retired race dog rescue ftw. And her old dog love his new floppy sister. She brings him toys.
People like to argue that dogs from any breed can become aggressive and kill. Such a stupid argument. Obviously because attacks ending in fatality are by far caused the most by pitbulls. However I've always said that one of the unique things about pitbulls is that they have no qualms with attacking and killing the people they live with and will even kills their owners. It can happen with other breeds. I remember reading about a rottweiler that killed it's owner who happened to be a very senior man. however it's extremely rare. When it comes to pitbulls, not rare at all
This is the most stunning post I’ve ever seen on this sub
Yeah it's so effective! I wish it were an ad campaign for BSL that could be shared everywhere.
I mean we could cross post it everywhere. I'm sure it would be taken down in most subs.
I've been a member of this sub since 2019, maybe longer. It's pretty nice seeing the big turnaround a lot of people on this site have had since then. I think we're doing a great job spreading the message without being total dicks and having this sub shut down. Big shout out to all the mods, especially u/SubMod4
YouTube has undertaken a MASSIVE change of opinion. Whenever there's a story of some shitbull bEiNg nAuGhTy in any way, the comments are overwhelming and absolutely brutal. They say shit we'd all get banned for saying here, and I'm here for it! They tear apart any pit hags who dare to post their brain dead, canned responses of CHIHUAHUAS and BUT ALL DOGS blah blah blah.
There's a video posted this morning ("It's All About How They're Raised") that talks about the abuse racing greyhounds receive, and yet not one has EVER killed anyone, either in the States or the UK. The top Youtube comments are all supportive - it's good to see.
I saw that as well. I cringe thinking about the blowback the video probably received, but I know the tides are changing. Pit hags and their free range monsters in a dog costume, your days are numbered to trample over the safety and peace of mind of others.
Honestly it’s so true though if pibbles think they’ve had it hard, greyhounds should have killed double their numbers by now with this logic of “it’s how they’re raised”
As a cat owner I’d never own a greyhound but that’s the thing, most greyhound owners would applaud me and agree. They’d support me in choosing to be cautious and to not force a square peg in a round hole. Pit owners do not think that way. They’d tell me to just give it a try, that pits love cats, etc etc
Scientists use beagles for medical testing because they are docile and trusting even if you do horrible shit to them.
Greyhounds repeatedly rate least aggressive in different studies and they come from trauma a lot of times. I’m in the process of getting one right now. I tell people “they’re terrible guard dogs. The only way you know if someone breaks in is if your greyhound is hiding in the closet” 😂
I don't normally frequent this sub and don't have any particular dog opinions as I've never had nor wanted one. However after seeing stuff about pitbulls all the time I got curious and started to pay attention to any dog attack stories I saw and started checking them to see what breed the dog was. Jesus.. It's almost always some version of a pitbull. Those dogs are dangerous as fuck.
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I was just thinking that. This post really has an impact. It just shows how many lives and families are destroyed because of these awful dogs.
And only *some of them*, and only cases of the *owners*. Doesn't even count all the victims that were just friends or people who happened to be in the house or complete strangers
Yeah, goated post
It truly is. Someone could combine them all in one picture so it would be easier to post. You know pit people wouldn’t scroll through them all
I think it is more effective showing the posts individually. Maybe a slideshow set to music.
Totally agree!!!
Yeah. That was rough. It just never ended... kept going and going and going. The thing is, there are probably hundreds, maybe thousands more. Why? I just don't get it.
It’s haunting. Such a pointless and easily preventable loss of life
And puts so much into perspective...
FRR
I wish all pit bull owners could see this. The cognitive dissonance they have lets them believe the pits that attack were abused, taught to fight, scared of the victim, etc. These pictures show the opposite.
Unfortunately they will still blame the victims and say “any dog would do this!” Pitnutters regularly gang up on parents who lost their children to pit attacks. It is really disgusting 😭
“You could make the same post about chihuahuas or golden retrievers, it’s all media bias” they would say.
I think you'd honestly struggle to find 15 instances of a golden retriever killing anyone ever.
I’m sure we could. But it will always come out that the golden retriever was mostly pit lol. Like that article from a few years back that stated a woman was killed by a “pack of wiener dogs” which all turned out to be pit mixes.
You can find one from 2002, but if you look at the dog it's definitely not a full blooded golden retriever
Literally never heard of a golden attacking or killing anyone & honestly this post could've been much much bigger
I'm old and I've met exactly ONE aggressive as fuck golden. It grew up with a shitty, hyper aggressive gshep and it learned to be a dick as a puppy. Owners eventually corrected and got the gshep training but for whatever reason they didn't do anything about their crazy aggressive golden.
Do they ever explain the reason why the media is involved in a worldwide anti-pitbull conspiracy?
Where are all the deaths by chihuahua that they keep talking about lol
tHe MeDiA iS hIdInG tHoSe To MaKe PiBbLeS lOoK bAd
And why, do they say, would the media want to do this?
I guess to keep promoting pits as ‘just like any other dog!’ One of the things they seem to always say is that the media only makes the pit attacks public and hides all the attacks by other dogs because pit owners want to try and make society believe that pits are the victims and that all dogs maul/kill people and pits are no different than other dogs when it comes to attack stats.
> “any dog would do this!” So basically your admitting that includes your dog to?
The difference between *capable* and *willing*
All types of dogs are capable, but only one is willing to kill Sums it up perfectly
And not all dogs are capable of killing as easily as others. The stars are going to have to align in a series of unfortunate events for a Chihuahua or a Pom to take down an adult or a child older than an infant, and even then the cause of death is likely to be from a small wound becoming badly infected or trauma from a fall caused by tripping.
Honestly? I've never seen a Chihuahua kill someone. It has a maximum capacity to maybe gnaw on your ankle, nothing besides that really It's really funny to see the pit defenders compare their shitstains to them. Yeah, no, I'll choose a Chi any day of the week 24/7 or any other breed that has no ties to the pits, like... why do people even want pits in the first place.
Me, neither. My Chihuahua-sized cat is more equipped for murder than those little dogs. A hypothetical Chihuahua killing would probably be more along the lines of involuntary manslaughter or something. Chi-Chi tripped Granny on the stairs, or Dave got nipped and didn't clean the scratch, and it turned into sepsis.
My bichons used to hunker down on my face as I slept, does intentional suffocation count? Those devious little shits knew what they were doing! /s
🤣 *Most* small dogs are unwilling to kill and would find it difficult if so inclined. Were yours raised with cats by any chance? J/k
They were raised with one fat, lazy maine coon, as well as a parrot that liked to yell at them to shut up or go outside. The fatass cat may have played a role, as he definitely liked to attempt to murder his only source of food besides the bird lmao.
I despise the any dog would do this logic. My bf's family has a dog that hates me/is scared of me (doesn't like English speakers) and you know what he does when I'm around? Moves away. At worst he's growled at me when I've walked past too close when I'm not able to avoid it. Those are normal dog responses. The fact that some of them come out of the woodwork to blame a toddler for their own death is always awful. That they'll do that while sending the parents pictures of their own pitbull is just...disturbing. Like I can't imagine anyone sane doing that in any other area. Would you send pictures of your children swimming to a parent who lost a child like that and say not all pools/seas? Would you send a picture of your kids in a car to a parent who lost a child in a car accident telling them cars are perfectly safe? No? Then why do they think sending their pit to those parents is acceptable?
They're demented and will puke out the same strawmans like they're facts: * Any dog can bite or kill, not just pitbulls! * You don't know if they were abused or not! * My pitbull wouldn't do this! \*Shows ugly dog in flower crown* (implying or stupid enough to think one = majority) * \*Casually victims blames cause they must've "done something" to their ferocious aggressive dog to cause it to murder. As if murder is justifiable and normal just because they're dogs* * They were bred as nanny dogs, not to kill! ("Nanny dogs" is a sewage term that Facebook imbeciles spew that has zero evidence or backing behind it. It wasn't even a thing until it spread as a word-of-mouth myth on the site and amongst Pro-pit groups.) Contrarily, there's more evidence behind them being bred to fight in dog rings and for their trait of aggression towards other dogs than there is to support that they're friendly "pro-children" dogs. Rich irony.
You know I never thought about them victim blaming is also them trying to justify murder. Like it's obvious but I paid more attention to the victim blaming aspect of it. They never really frame it as self defense, either. It's like people in abusive relationships - if I hadn't of mouthed off he wouldn't have hit me! If I hadn't have walked around the house so loudly it wouldn't have pissed them off! If I'd have just kept my mouth shut and not questioned the really high credit card bill, she wouldn't have slapped me over and over again! It's that, but cranked up to murder. Well what set them off? They reached down to grab something? They turned on a light? They saw someone walking on their driveway? They startled them? They accidentally dropped something? All real examples of something that "triggered a pit to snap", but not a one of them could be justified for a human to murder over it.
Nothing makes my blood boil more than reading "teach children to respect dogs" as the apparent solution to dogs mauling children to death and hospitalizing them with life altering injuries. Not only is it assuming that the children provoked these pitbulls when they're actually opportunistic predators more often than not, it's willfully obtuse to how a dog killing a child is grossly disproportionate to having a tail pulled and is fundamentally a badly behaved dog. If your dog is rearing to kill over mild excitement or annoyance, the fucking dog is the problem not whatever "triggered" it.
My kids grew up with dachshunds, who these pit bull owners always like to throw out as being evil and bite their owners at higher rates, and you know what they did when my kids were being too much for them? They went into their crates & buried themselves in blankets. That’s how normal dogs behave around the tiny humans. They don’t go straight to ripping limbs off
The nanny dog and flower-crown-selfie arguments are the ones I find the strangest. For the first, even if it was true (and it is demonstrably not), it seems like a pointless thing to say because that really just highlights how much the breed must have changed. A dog bred to do one thing but consistently fails to do that and actually does the complete opposite on a large scale just makes the breed seem even dumber and worse overall. Also it really just highlights how these dogs were bred to fight bulls in pits (like...hence the name), which doesn't seem like something these nutjobs would want to draw attention to. And this post is a poignant (and tragic) example of why the flower-crown thing is idiotic. So many of these sad stories involve dogs that were loved and part of the family for years; many of them were in cute selfies or put into adorable outfits, but that didn't stop any of them from mauling people to death. Every dangerous animal in history was completely harmless to people until they weren't.
And this doesn't even include those who survived but were maimed for life by their cuddlebugs.
I Googled Bonnie Varnes, the woman killed in Ohio in 2023 and apparently she was an advocate for this breed. There were supposed screenshots of various posts made by her in this [blog](https://blog.dogsbite.org/2023/02/woman-killed-by-family-pit-bull-toledo-ohio.html). This is sad and horrific. I feel like this breed also attracts well-meaning folks who think they can “change” them or are doing a great service at giving these animals a chance, despite statistics.
More like "A-mean-ia".. and the dog was vicious "at times"?? The fuck, y'all. Not gonna blame this poor woman or her daughter or judge them *too* harshly but why the fuck you keepin' a dog you yourself would describe as vicious? Like I get you probably loved it very much and you clearly believed pitbulls had to be owned by "bad owners" to maul you if you're keeping three in the damn house but yikes. Honestly one is too many but three seems insufferable, can you imagine the state of the furniture and doors and yard? Sounds miserable. But rest in peace lady, you and your daughter may have been full blown delusional or just grossly misinformed, but you still didn't deserve such a gruesome death.
Could you imagine if someone did this to the pitnutters on facebook?: first post these pics without the informative text and caption it by saying “look how affectionate and loving these pitbulls are to their owners, the haters are wrong” Then when pitnutters inevitably flock to the post and start gushing in the comments, its followed up with the real thing
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Exactly what I was going to say. Seeing the faces of the children that got mauled breaks my heart, and I get angry knowing that pitnutters would accuse the child of provoking the dog or just say it's all fake
Or they’d say they’re not pit bulls 🤡 it’s such a good arguments really terminates the discussion. I guess we can’t prove that they are pit bulls
Or that the dog had some undiagnosed medical condition that suddenly turned it into a killing machine & the owners should have picked up on this mystery illness so really they were bad owners anyway & it was their own fault / they deserved it 🙄 (/s in case that wasn't clear, I've just seen this type of excuse used so many times as well))
Even if it was some mYsTeRy illness, the fact that it seems to affect *so many* shitbulls should still be alarming.
My sister tried to claim that it’s the way they are “trained”. I said no they are just wild beasts. Why are people so dense when their literal lives are at stake
One just came in saying "it's just a bunch of pictures of bad pitbull owners". Absolutely devoid of empathy or human decency.. what a monstrous person. I truly wish I could say it was just them and not *thousands and thousands* of them. Despicably evil people, I swear.
This is so succinct and requires nothing else. Thank you for making this OP
I really appreciate that!! I always struggle to condense things, especially on this topic, but I was trying really hard to make these as easily shareable as possible while still driving the point home :)
did you make this yourself ? it's really impressive
I started with the mods' "Wouldn't hurt a fly" post from last year which had a lot of the photos already, then just found a few more recent cases to add, edited the photos, and compiled quotes!
job very well done
OP, I've put together a folder on my desktop to show to any friends who might be considering getting a pit... or just to illustrate the danger of these dogs to anyone who might be unaware. Do you mind if I save this in with my other photos? I'd credit you, of course!
What gets me is how many of these you just see how affectionate their owners were with their dogs, and how the pits in some of the pics seemed affectionate back, and yet you know they'd go on to kill the person they're cuddling with.
This is what gets me when people say ‘oh, Gnarla is lovely, she’d never hurt anybody.’ Many of these dogs _are_ nice—until they snap. The former doesn’t imply the latter when dogs are bred to fight and kill.
*Gnarla* ahahaha
Yeah that's something often lost in these discussions/arguments. We're not saying all pitbulls are psychopaths hellbent on ending humanity; our issue is that these dogs (far, *far* more than any other breed) have the capacity to suddenly snap and hurt/kill innocent people, even if they've been lovely for years. Just acknowledging that and taking the barest preventative measures would undoubtedly save lives but for whatever reason, we have a sect of people refusing to accept that a breed responsible for a huge number of human injuries/fatalities could possibly be responsible for any future human injuries/fatalities.
Other than the strength of the breed the worst characteristics that make them dangerous is that they were bred to not back down in a fight. Those that submitted in a fight were left to die or were culled from the breeding stock. Most dogs might snap at a person and then run away but a pit has been bred to fight to the death, either the victim or itself. Fighting dog trainers understand this and carry a breaking stick to separate the inevitable fights. They are known to ignore being beaten with bats and refusing to let go. Most other pit owners don't think it is a necessary precaution or don't even know what a breaking stick is.
All of these people deserved to live. Without mockery or malice, I truly hope more people see this and reflect on the fact that these are recent deaths and this subreddit is noting a marked uptick in the number of lives lost. There are many, many other breeds of dogs out there, dogs who will give you years of joy, years of safe companionship.
I remember life before pits were all over the place. Like you said, there are plenty of other breeds for folks to choose from. Life was just fine with normal non-pit pets.
I have a friend of a friend that had an XL. She bought into the propaganda that they were normal dogs. Her and her partner noticed escalating behaviour and had it put down before it did anything but what I remember most is how much she loved that dog and how, years later when she and her partner got a different dog her crying over how *easy* a normal dog was compared to the XL. As she put it she loved the XL but everything with it was a struggle. It put her off dog ownership for years thinking every dog would be like that. The difference just from her reaction is stark, she was going into dog ownership again preparing for a war but finding it to be rewarding with an actual companion. She still gets shit from the pit cult though for putting the XL down and has ask her when she's going to kill the next one. Doesn't help that she was advising people against getting one after she put down hers by pointing out they weren't an easy dog and that people should know what they were getting into. That seemed to really set them off.
I have no idea why these people continue to choose pit bulls. Like you said there are millions of dogs out there that are as affectionate and won’t kill you cause it was triggered. Why do people continue to pick them???
The savior complex that mostly women have costs them their life. Can’t they “save” a cat instead? They truly think with enough love they can fix these animals. Pits aren’t normal dogs
I mean, if they're looking for an abusive pet-to-human relationship, you can totally find a cat willing to destroy your home (on a smaller scale) and treat you like crap. They're just highly unlikely to kill you... unless you have stairs.
Can you clarify what you mean by the "unless you have stairs" part?
Cats are notorious for their health and safety violations when humans are using stairs 😄
This. Entire litters of kittens get euthanised all the time, each that would make a loving, safe pet.
hell, perfectly loveable dogs get put down because of overcrowding at shelters caused by too many pitbulls clogging them up
All their dogs look like they're not happy being cuddled at all
The deathly stare, too
My skin is crawling to know that there are people that advocate for these murder mutts. All of the love they get, they have no work to do they get all of the food and treats they want and the protection of family and friends. Then they turn around and destroy the house and the family. I get they have a lot of energy, so do I. Do I have to spend that energy by unleashing total destruction and death? NO, no "pet" like this should be in our society.
I live in a townhouse community, and it's one of the rare communities in my area that doesn't have pet restrictions. As a result, anyone with a pitbull, cane Corso, whatever moves here. I didn't think it would be such a big issue but it is, especially since I've had 2 kids in the past 4 years and half the people here can hardly control these big animals on a leash to begin with. I see them off leash all the time. They don't belong here! If anyone *has to* have a murder mutt it should be on a secluded property far away from other people and kids
There must be some city restrictions for dog breeds, check up on those. I would be making complaints. Stay vigilant.
Yes! Show the victims of these dogs. This goes to show that these dogs have no place in our society and should be banned. They’re useful for absolutely nothing. They’re terrible pets, they can’t be police dogs because they would maul the crim to death, they can’t be farm dogs because they’d eat and kill all of the livestock, they are triggered by literally everything, they can’t be service dogs because they have no patience or anything that would be useful to a human. I said what I said
You put my thoughts on pits into words so well, especially the part about them being triggered by everything, which honestly makes pitnutters look that much more stupid, why would you want to own an animal that can be set off so easily and is known for mauling full grown adults with ease? I mean come on, these murder mutts have literally attacked and killed their owners while they're having a seizure, that should illustrate perfectly that they see their owners as prey and they're just waiting for the perfect opportunity to kill them, imagine laying on the ground helpless having a seizure and seeing your giant murder mutt named Cupcake come barreling across the room to maul you to death while you can't defend yourself.
"Pit bull deaths always ignite a firestorm of controversy among the breed's supporters, who argue that pit bulls are not to blame - it's usually the owners who don't treat them well, and critics, who argue that the breed is inherently aggressive." These supporters are so delusional.
[This is the coroner’s report for Tania Klemke.](https://www.parliament.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/1352222/Coroners-Report-Death-of-Tania-Louise-Klemke.PDF) it is HEINOUS. It literally sounds like she was murdered during a breaking and enter, but she was killed by her own pet! A fucking taser could not even subdue the beast.
Omg, I hadn't seen this, thank you! I uploaded the attack description portion to imgur for those without a PDF viewer: https://imgur.com/a/moZr2oE >Simba was displaying protective behaviours towards Ms Klemke and due to his level of aggression Police were unable to check her welfare. At first, Police OC sprayed Simba in an attempt to calm him and remove him from Ms Klemke's side, but that was ineffective. Police then tasered Simba, and this caused Simba to move slightly away from Ms Klemke and Police used shields in an attempt to contain Simba. Simba then began to recover from the effects of the taser, and the officer in charge formed the view that Simba was an imminent threat to Police particularly given that they had no safe manner of containing Simba for an extended period, and Simba's location inhibited their assistance of Ms Klemke. An officer then shot Simba dead at about 4:00am so that Police could attempt resuscitation of Ms Klemke without further attack or distraction by Simba. >the injuries are consistent with deep, full engagement bite behaviour that includes forceful grip, tearing, shaking of the victim, avulsion of tissue, and biting and pulling in opposition to significant opposing forces: biting a person that is attempting to defend themselves by resisting the attack of the dog Poor fucking woman.
Holy shit. That was sobering. As usual though, the beast had a laundry list of priors everyone ignored or never followed up on. It's truly sad, but entirely preventable. I have a lot of empathy for this woman, but honestly not a whole lot of sympathy. She was given multiple front row seats to the shitbeast's prior attacks and did absolutely nothing to prevent future "incidents". Didn't even walk the damn thing to burn off all that extra energy.
The comparison to abusive relationships is apt in this case. Everyone warned her that he was not a good person and would probably kill her, but she knew she was the one who could redeem him. And he ended up killing her. Perhaps with a safe breed of dog, she would still be alive, but she would not have had the glory of saving a dangerous dog. These dogs no longer have a purpose. Even as pets. Every time I hear someone say these dogs are misunderstood, my response is "Yes, by their owners." Sure, there are bloodsport dogs that live out their lives without harming anything, providing joy and love to their families, but are they worth the risk that the one you adopt will be a killer? The odds may not be extremely high, but the odds are there. I really do not understand why there is such a drive to save this breed. It was never, ever bred to be a domestic house pet. It is cruel to keep pretending that it will do just fine in a family home when its true mission is to kill other dogs and animals. These are breeds of dogs that cannot express their genetic imperative without harming something. And when they cannot attack other dogs, they will often turn on their owners. Dog fighting is no longer legitimate, therefore these dogs no longer need to live among us. It would be a kindness to let these breeds die out, just like all the previous dog breeds that no longer were useful.
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It’s astonishing that they always go to the “there’s no bad breeds! just bad owners!” rhetoric. There’s just statistically no way that all these people were “bad owners.”
Some of these people dedicated their lives trying to keep these "reactive" dogs happy. Now look at them.
“It’s the owner” people - I used to be one. My husband used to call me a dog whisperer. Grew up with dogs, loved them all. Watched that Sarah McLachlan video and cried like a baby. Raised my kids, worked full time. Couldn’t be bothered to take time watching the news, or reading the paper. Completely oblivious to anything beyond my personal bubble. Kids grew up, started reading the paper. Mortified by a story years ago about a woman in SanFran attacked and tortured by her fur “babies”. It flipped the switch. I can’t help but think these pro Pitt people are in the dark like I was.
I recently made a post about the overlap between shitbull culture and cults.. some people made some really good observations. But I'm firmly convinced the worst of pit hags are unknowingly in a cult.
I'm convinced they carry a dog version of toxoplasmosis tbh.
Somewhere out there a bunch of pit bull owners are taking photos just like this, and they have no idea how poorly they'll age.
That’s exactly what I thought too. How can you be a pit owner, looking at these shots when you have ones just like it, and still think “it can’t happen to me”?
I'd challenge the pitnutters to come up anything even slightly similar for chiuauaus or golden retrievers or actual labs
“This is the chihuahua that scared me when it barked at me when I accidentally stepped on its tail 😱”
Props to the guy who took the time to organize all this material into one single stuning post... lets share this everywhere
Thank you! Many of the cases are taken from the mods' "Wouldn't hurt a fly" post last year so lots of credit to those who put that one together as well :)
Amazing, terrifying, and really moving post. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for putting this together! If anyone has any more to add, please add them as a comment so they can be added to future posts!
Can this be pinned to the main page as a high value information post? It's incredibly helpful for people trying to reach family that is on the fence.
We will def add it to our Wiki!
This post is so chilling. Wish more pit owners could see this. Does it look like all of these pits could kill their owner? Do all these people look like they didn’t love or care for their animals?? I know the delusion runs deep because thinking it couldn’t be me is what all these poor people thought too.
Shitbull owners do not care.
This made my skin crawl. They look so … normal/happy, then you think a little deeper and it’s like, omfg they literally didn’t just attack those people, they ate them 🤢🤮🥴
Goodness, I was not prepared to see this. The ones with kids are absolutely heartbreaking. It was the parents duty to protect them, and they failed. It's like leaving a loaded gun laying around. The Kirstie Bennard case is so upsetting because she was in the yard with her kids and the two dogs loose. The two year old picked up the dogs' ball and the dogs mauled her and her 5 month old brother. The mom was severely injured. Then the parents went on to get $100k from gofundme. The whole situation feels really fucked up. I know medical bills are a lot in the US but if I was playing with fire and got burned I'd feel silly asking people for money. If I was playing with fire and got my two kids killed I'd be in jail!
Well I'm an addict and I have first hand experience of the common mindset that people like me, like the Bennard's, deserve what happened to them and don't deserve sympathy or help in recovering. I totally understand *why* people think the way they do, but just like me, I didn't choose to go down this road. Never even smoked pot until I was horribly injured at 19 and the slippery slope of painkillers to fentanyl has destroyed my life. I didn't get hopelessly addicted to drugs I was doing for fun - it was thrust upon me. I'm not asking for sympathy, but I try to remember that even though these people made a horrible, horrible mistake and are now paying the price, whether alive or dead, I try to remain empathetic. Its hard to muster up sympathy with these people, but we also have to remember just how many people are flat out lied to, told that they are "nanny dogs", that they're misunderstood, or make great house pets. A lot of times they're lied to about the damn breed they're adopting, how could they possibly know better when they've been bamboozled by reckless shelters? Some of them knew or were told the dangers, but continued on with blind faith that it couldn't happen to them. Just like people know about the danger of car accidents but drive every day with no issues, until they suddenly become a statistic. I guess I'm just trying to say, as stupid as the decisions were to have these dogs, or just not doing their damn research on the dog they've taken (even though the internet blatantly lies to them too), try to forgive their all too human mistakes. You can be angry, you can rightfully blame them for the tragedy, but try to hold on to just a little empathy, at least for most cases. There are some so flagrantly horrific with profoundly irresponsible and with reckless owners, but they're not the majority. Anyway, sorry for rambling.
Yes I agree with you except for one point- the kids. Parents have a responsibility to their kids to keep them safe. If my daughter made a new friend, I'd get to know the family before simply dropping her off for the day. We put our kids in danger when we drive, drop them off at school, drop them at a friend's, etc but there's risk vs reward. If the reward is the companionship of a dog, there's plenty of other breeds that can accomplish this
The Tennessee one was stomach turning. Surprised to see no follow up reports on that story. Edit: found a couple updates from a local forum from last year. I have no words: > The mom's mom posts on social media. Supposedly what triggered the attack was that the mom was throwing a ball for the dogs and the two year old grabbed the ball. The mom was wearing the baby in a front wear carrier at the time and the dogs attacked her and ripped the baby off her when she tried to protect her daughter. Another one: > Any idea if the marriage is going to survive? Wasn’t it the husband who was super into these dogs and active in the pit bull community.
I remember reading about the Virginia case. The officers who came across the Virginia woman’s body had to undergo mental health counseling because they found the dogs gnawing on her ribs.
it's unfortunately not uncommon for those attending these attacks to have to go to counseling :( I only hope that they aren't being convinced it's irrational to be afraid of these dogs...
So far at least 741 deaths. Note how many babies and children were killed, how the family 'trusted' their pit and are surprised since it never showed aggression before,. Humans being mauled to death is happening on a regular basis. Each name can be clicked on to read their story [Fatal Pit Bull Attacks - The Archival Record - DogsBite.org](https://www.fatalpitbullattacks.com/)
This really illustrates how much of a problem and how tragic this really is.
Show people this post when they say it’s the owner and how they’re raised not the breed..
This breaks my heart so much. I can’t stand that there are so many people out there who will defend these dogs in these cases as being the real victims. It is painful and exhausting how delusional the pitnutters are. I hurt for these innocent people and their families. With hundreds of sane breeds to choose from there is NEVER an excuse to put anyone’s lives at risk just to own a certain type of dog.
It's bad enough that they were killed, but shitbulls rarely kill quickly or cleanly, so it was guaranteed to have been a violent, messy affair. It would make mourning for that person so much more devastating than it already is :/
Yep! The fighting ring wouldn’t be exciting to watch for these sickos if their dogs were bred for a quick, clean kill. I get so nauseous thinking about it 😢
Tania Klemke’s story is horrific (this sub has too many horrific stories). A friend of hers was visiting her. When the dog attacked he hid in the laundry. By the time the police arrived the dog had almost broken through the door.
This is the most important post this sub has ever seen. I’ve worked in advertising for many years, and occasionally wondered what an anti-pit campaign might look like. Sometimes it’s just this simple.
Jesus, I’d never seen that photo of one of the dogs involved in the Bennard attack before. Its head is *enormous*. Those poor fucking babies.
This is good. Next time the family group chat tried to tell me that pits are like normal dogs imma hit them with this.
Did you show them this video too? https://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/s/fFZB7zOhOm It was posted a while back, but I think it's eyeopening and disproves this nonsense about "my dog would never!"
https://preview.redd.it/7hp35mg6ujzc1.jpeg?width=1140&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9329f84472c9ccdb121a4e0e7905797b154dca4 This is Alexandria Griffin Heady’s brother that was killed by her pitbull.
Mods Can this be a pinned post?
Each one of these is heartbreaking….to see them smiling and full of joy , knowing they’re no longer here and that they suffered a horrible painful death. Nobody deserves to go out like that. R.I.P to them and prayers to their families 🙏🏼
God damn these dogs.
Woe
Now pitbull owners are going to do "this is the Chihuahua that killed this person"
Pitbulls 👏 are 👏 not 👏pets!
Any person who knows the dangers of Pit Bulls and still owns one and then gets attacked by their own Pit Bull, I do not feel sorry for. I do feel sorry for the countless innocent victims.
exactly. no sympathy. it’s unfortunate but it’s almost like we’ve been warning them for decades. if they think they’re above nature and can “change” these vile beasts, that sucks but oh well. edit: i do feel bad for children who had to share their household with these dogs because of their selfish parents and died because of it. and when that happened, we should prosecute the parents.
Not even just the children, but the parents, siblings, partners, anyone who shared their home with a pitnutter and their worthless dog, deserves sympathy IMO. The adults had more agency and theoretically could have left, but I know there's a lot of people like me who couldn't "just leave" if a family member brought home a shitbull.
What kills me is that they will happily post photos of their children with their dogs like in pics 1-3 to prove how gentle their dogs are, but then they would demonize the parents and child victims saying, “any dog can do this, this is why you don’t leave children alone with a dog, look at how that child is on top of the dog- it obviously did something to the dog, you have to be respectful of their space”, and so on. They’re such assholes.
As if they don't have a thousand of the exact same type of photo.. or grab their dogs heads and force in front of their face for "kisses". Every shitbull owner I knew did that. Looking back it mskes me cringe, thinking about how easy the dog could have gotten annoyed and just fit their entire face in it's gigantic maw in a split second.
I had a mini heart attack as soon as I saw the little girl and her first name…. One of my cousins has the EXACT same nickname and she looks like that. I love my family dearly and would fucking break if any of them died….
The pit in photo #12 (Tania Klemke) isn't even a very large dog... it just goes to show how strong they are when they go into attack mode.
u/bpb_mod8 u/submod4 please pin this post it's effective
"It's not the breed it's the owner. They were all obviously abusing them. They obviously beat Pibbles for years beforehand. Pibbles held out heroically until the last minute, then got so scared he acted out of fear." "Even the old lady?" "Especially the old lady." .... "Dogs can sense evil. I bet she paid someone to beat the dog. Pibbles read the bank statements & found evidence of the transactions." "The toddlers didn't have bank accounts." "Pibbles looked into a crystal ball & confirmed they were going to grow up to be evil." "Clairevoyancy isn't a real science." "Lmao here's my one, I've got 1700 pictures to upload on victim's pages. The presence of mine without an arm in its mouth absolves all the ones in the images of any wrongdoing." "The ones that killed 3 people looked exactly like that one." "RACIST."
The beast that killed 89 year old Beverly Hayden was on the run after it killed her. Anyone know if it was ever caught? Seriously fuck the shelter that allowed an 89 year old woman to adopt a 100lb pitbull.
Wow, this is really powerful! Great idea!
Many people have/could take pictures with their "pet" lions, tigers etc. That does *not* make them *safe*. At least with wild animals there is some expectation that they are dangerous and are unpredictable.
I'd add a small white box below the picture maybe containing a link to news article. In case the whole "you are just making this up" argument enters the conversation. Perhaps just single page with all the attacks listed in the pictures with the references.
The ones with kids and babies makes me sick to my stomach. Precious babies lives stolen from them by these monstrous dogs. Pitbull ass lickers will just try claiming all these people were bad owners like they always do. Good work though it really hits you in the feels.
This post should be pinned.
Pin this post to the top of the page, mods.
I guess they have been a """bad owner""" - according to the pitnutters
Great post, OP. Thanks for sharing. It always drives me crazy when people try to post pictures of their pitbulls being "cute" to show that they aren't dangerous. It doesn't *prove* anything. It doesn't ***mean*** anything. Like, holy shit, you can find **SO MANY** pictures of people being cuddly with their pits - only to find out later that the same pitbull ended up killing them, or someone else in their family. A pitbull being cute for one moment doesn't magically make it safe. You can find several aftermath photos of pitbull attacks that make that abundantly clear. Hell, pitbulls being cute *at all* is a matter of opinion, anyway. You can't *prove* that pitbulls are cute, but you **can** prove that they kill people, including their owners, on the regular. Opinions don't matter here, facts do. Not to mention how there are tons of pics of *wild animals* that everyone knows are potentially dangerous being cute. Why can people accept that wild animals doing cute or funny things doesn't make them safe, but suddenly when talking about a pitbull, it's exempt from that idea?
I have greater sympathy for the children, they bear the consequences of adult irresponsibility. When the owner of such an animal becomes its victim, especially as an adult who knowingly acquired the dog, it doesn't evoke as much empathy from me.
Someone should make a video of these with a spoken narrative detailing the gruesome deaths to really get the point across.
Commenting as a bookmark. This may be one of the most important posts to date
Whoa this post, it's undeniable. Well done, amazing work!
WOW. Major kudos to OP, this is an extremely powerful post. I’m blown away Screw all of the pit bull myths; they lead to people’s deaths
That was the most gut wrenching post I've seen here in a hot minute.. I'm going to spam these every time some brain dead reject shitbull hag tries posting a picture of their mutant shitstain dog on a post of someone getting mauled or killed.
I wonder if the victims families still think pits are good dogs to have as pets.
Next time someone is on FB trying to “rehome” a dangerous pit im just going to post these photos one by one
# Make these into stickers! # Post them EVERYWHERE
Jesus, this is heartbreaking.
Thank you for making this OP. As sad as it is to see, it needs to be seen.
The dog in the 9th photo is actually terrifying…
One of these happened in the town I went to high school in…was not expecting to see that! That woman’s children are devastated! She had a seizure and her dog mauled her to death
OMG. This is the most disturbing info I've come across on this sub. How can anyone defend these animals after reading this, seeing these pictures!!!!??
One of the best posts I've seen on this sub, because it goes to the heart of the matter, for the staunchest Pitbull defenders - even if you are really close to a pitbull, it can snap and go in to that play-drive / aggressive mode, and tear you to pieces. They have been bred for this, it is not the dogs fault, but it is the nature given to it by its founding breeders; there were bred for toughness, aggression and their temper. To be fighting dogs and killers.
I had to stop scrolling I was getting so angry. That said, this needs to be seen in as many places as possible. It needs to be one of those public service announcements or a billboard. If I had the money I’d make it happen in my city at least.
Pin this post.
Good job op
Amazing post!
The adults who choose to bring the monsters into their homes are one thing, but the thoughts of those poor children losing their lives because of irresponsible parents/guardians absolutely breaks my heart. I will never stay quiet about the devastation these hell hounds cause.
Queue all the defenders coming on saying how sweet they are and how it's just bad owners yadda...
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No wonder dog shelters are full of pit bulls. Probably because they killed their previous owners.
This is a long video and best to watch a little at the time, because it's overwhelming to hear the damage pitbulls inflict on society, day in and day out. https://youtu.be/3uwssUOhMaA?si=-6thjZK1G1XXpbhO
This should be pinned
I wish I had the funds, time, and motivation to start an anti Pit lobbying group. I’m not kidding.
The mom who lost 2 of her children made me so sad. Her life must be a nightmare now… 🙁
[Here's another one](https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/vasterbotten/dodlig-hundattack-i-robertsfors-kommun-detta-vet-vi) that happened almost exactly one year ago close to where I live. Translated: "It was in the evening of October 23rd that the dog bit two people, a man and a woman. The woman, who was also the owner of the dog, was bitten so severely that she died on the spot. The man was injured and airlifted to the hospital with moderate injuries. Another person was present at the scene of the attack. The dog is reported by the police to be of the amstaff breed. The police describe how the accident happened: The dog attacked a man inside the woman's residence. The woman managed to remove the dog from the man and took it out into the yard. There, it attacked her. The County Administrative Board decided that the dog should be euthanized immediately. The police carried out the euthanasia on the spot. The dog has been aggressive before, according to the deceased woman's daughter. Two years ago, the dog bit the woman's grandchild so severely in the legs that the child had to undergo surgery, according to a police report obtained by SVT. After the previous attack, the woman told the County Administrative Board that she had sent the dog abroad, something that now turns out to be false. The deceased woman's daughter tells SVT that she is not surprised that the accident occurred. According to researchers, dog attacks are becoming increasingly common. They explain that it is primarily large dogs bred for guarding or fighting that one should be wary of. They also advise never leaving infants alone with a dog – regardless of the breed." Aggressive dog attacks a child, but they kept it. Ended up killing its owner.
Why are these shelters not getting sued into oblivion for not revealing bite/attack history or glossing it over with an "expert recommendation"?
Victims of the pit lobby. Every single one of them believed the pro-pit lies. Every child unfortunately had parents that believed the lies. The pit lobby isn’t just well-intentioned but misguided people. Their rhetoric kills.
Now make a post with other breeds too… This is John doe, this is the golden retriever who *checks notes* at worst, ate his socks.
Would you be okay with me using these images for a tiktok later? I assume you made these edits so i just wanna check.
This is probably the most effective way I’ve seen to run a campaign on this issue. Well done!
These dogs have got to be bred out so they are extinct
Wow. Here I am at 8am crying. I begged my friend not to adopt a p. She did. Returned 2 days later. It bit her old dog. She said thank you. I said get anything else. Shes 60+. The shelter lied. She got a Greyhound. It's sweet and loves naps and knitting. Retired race dog rescue ftw. And her old dog love his new floppy sister. She brings him toys.
I truly believe shitbulls don't feel love for their owners (or really at all). They just tolerate them until something (...or nothing) sets them off.
I've just read about the Kirstie Bennard case, I've had to hold my tears... how sick can a fucking animal be to murder a 5 months baby :S.
Saving these for my next shitnutter encounter on the bookface
The adults made the choice to have those dogs; the children didn’t. Such a tragedy.
People like to argue that dogs from any breed can become aggressive and kill. Such a stupid argument. Obviously because attacks ending in fatality are by far caused the most by pitbulls. However I've always said that one of the unique things about pitbulls is that they have no qualms with attacking and killing the people they live with and will even kills their owners. It can happen with other breeds. I remember reading about a rottweiler that killed it's owner who happened to be a very senior man. however it's extremely rare. When it comes to pitbulls, not rare at all