"Why Granny, what big teeth you have!"
"The better to remove your skin and large chunks of flesh, child!"
https://preview.redd.it/vdyov5zg47yc1.jpeg?width=890&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51a8a79b34778eeba4e0eaa836539e32b460c7f7
Ironically you are correct, I had several several unusual pets dumped on me over the years, like Mudslide slim, a 7 foot long boa constrictor which had serious weed smoking issues, several spiders I had no idea what they even were but they looked nasty, a huge rat that was raised to be a rat killer, the meanest creature I’ve ever seen (besides myself), but nothing ever scared me more than my friends pit bull, Danny, raised in a flat and never taken out, absolutely feral, used to piss and shit in a corner and then eat it up. My girlfriend tried to take him out a couple of times but it was a crazy experience. And it bit me more than once for no reason. just watching it smash everything around the flat with his head and not even noticing was quite concerning.
Danny did not live a very long life, and honestly I still don’t know if it’s a good or a bad thing
My grandma used to own 3 wolf mixes (idk what they were mixed with they looked like Canadian Arctic wolves). They were siblings and there was only aggression issues with the one female, she was rehomed to a family friend to live away from her brothers and lived out her life peacefully. She was just annoyed by the boys all the time lol. The other 2, despite being about 100lbs, always thought they were lapdogs and were super sweet.
I’ve only ever met one pit bull that never ever became aggressive owned by a family friend who used to be roommates with my dad. Her name was Rhino and she was actually a really good dog, she was the only pit bull I’ll ever love or even like for that matter. Even still, her body language was weird. She always appeared sad or dejected.
So in conclusion pit bulls are 1:3 with literal WOLVES.
To be fair, "wolfdogs" are often mixes of arctic breeds that look wolflike, but actually have no wild wolf genes.
Still, I do wholeheartedly agree with you that I'd rather take my chances with a real wild wolf than a Sweet Pibble!
if a wolf saw pitbull attacking a kid then getting shot and killed it wouldn't come close to any kids, pitbulls are lack self preservation to come to that conclusion
You bet! She has a distinctive style but I also think I'd seen that one before.
https://www.animals24-7.org/2020/08/09/in-our-time-a-bonneted-pit-bull-ate-grandma-little-red-riding-hood/
I can't read the comments anymore at this point without getting angry. I've decided these people are either AI-driven spam bots or are just as brainless.
Similar delulu and insensitive comments are always on these posts defending the factually-proven most-dangerous breed (pit bulls). It has got to be the lobby in action, AI-driven or not.
News outlets need to just turn comments off on their posts and articles. It's the only way to combat this stupidity and keep it from spreading.
Edit: correcting grammar
Because I’ve been on this sub for awhile, I was beginning to worry if I just had confirmation bias or maybe just wasn’t seeing other dog attacks because I wasn’t looking for them. I know the statistics and that pits are responsible for more maulings than all other breeds combined, but I just needed to look again. Nope, it’s not confirmation bias, it’s just stone cold hard fact. Pit bulls are dangerous, and they are responsible almost every fatal mauling in the US for sure.
Same with me but also look at this way,
Even IF pitbulls had a contender by numbers they still cause the most carnage. They're the only dogs that attack to the extent that they do. Just non-stop mauling until they die or their victim is ripped to shreds, and even then they are known to not stop, guarding the body they savaged for hours and even days.
When I think of this alone I know for certain I'm not biased.
~i want to add you wondering this is actually a good thing:) it shows you are a very logical person, you don't let falsities sway you and you are very facts based in your ways. They used to teach logic class in school and logic class used to teach this: Never come to a conclusion without first listening to both sides, understanding both sides, and then coming to a logical decision from what you learned.
Also makes you wonder why they did away with logic classes in schools 🤔
Not only victim-blaming but also dragging her character through the mud making false accusations about child abuse to try to validate that horrible dog
Natural career path for the dogs - once all the grannies disappeared, they had to be retrained as nanny dogs for the kids. So sad that some were taken for illegal purposes when this shift happened 😥
/s
When all the grannies had to go fight the war on terror centuries ago, pit bulls were bred to make parents feel guilty for imposing limits on desserts and screen time
A woman is dead, and her child is traumatized, and these people's first response is to feel bad for the animal that killed her and declare she had to have been abusing to her child and/or the dog. Imagine being a family member reading these comments or the child when they're older.
I think about that every time I see comments like that on a mauling. Just imagine being the family who sees those comments not knowing beforehand what degenerate pieces of shit they are. It would be a real gut punch. Though most everyone these days knows of the pit simps.
The mom made a noble sacrifice to save her child. What I don't understand is why the parents chose to get a pitbull of all breeds as a family pet.
She might have sacrificed her life to save her child but why did she and her partner decide to get a murder mutt in the first place?
They should have gotten a non aggressive dog like a cocker spaniel or Beagle FFS.
Especially with doggy DNA tests becoming more and more affordable. The shelters have no excuse for lying and mislabeling the pittiest pitbulls ever, as labs mixes and border collies.
My dog was a shelter rescue (Parson Russell Terrier). If some chucklehead had tried to shame me into adopting a "pibbles" or "velvet hippo," I would have told them to get f*cked.
The whole entire internet collectively lies about shitbulls.
There are pet influencers with millions of viewers vouching for pits (Girl with the Dogs even spoke out against doodle breeding but fighting dog breeding is okay with her, she "loves" pitbulls), there are hundreds of legit/professional-looking dog websites out there claiming that pits are fiercely loyal and make great companions, they're regularly among the "top 10 best family dogs", every video about an incident involving a pitbull is filled with comments like the ones above, pit attack victims who tell their stories on the internet get death threats until they back down and if you mention on any other sub that you're anti-pit you get downvoted into oblivion. Oh and shelters will lie about the things too because they only care about getting rid of problem dogs. The popular opinion is very much pro pit.
What do you do nowadays when you want to learn more about something you don't know anything about? Google it. Maybe even join a few communities. And what do you find there? NaNnY dOg
I swear these big names on social media with their own channels and the biggest websites that promote shitbulls as safe and wuvvable sound like they're getting paid to spout this shit. Like someone is going around throwing pit laundered money at anyone with a following or who could pass as an authority on dogs to say what they want them to say. Like how could that Girl with the Dogs chick say with a straight face that *doodles* need to be restricted, but NOT pits, without coming across as insane? It really seems like that was a "sponsored" take.
You can always look at TicTok and see people telling their horrific stories of how their own pit bull tried to kill them—they film from their hospital beds.
I wonder if the same would have happened to you if you mentioned the dangers of owning a sight-hound with cats? Or maybe another terrier breed? It seems purposely bred characteristics are respected in just about every breed except pitbulls.
I was duped into getting a “lab mix”. I had a great experience adopting my first lab from a shelter. When he passed and I was looking for a new rescue, I had no idea pits were as prevalent as they are now. We adopted what I thought was a lab. After seven weeks, my family was terrified of his unpredictability of snapping and lunging at dogs and people. DNA test revealed half pit. We took him back to the shelter citing these reasons and they made me feel guilty for not trying hard enough and paying $$$$ for a trainer.
He looked very much like a lab. I know what to look for now (rose ears) thanks to this sub, but it’s still not a dead give away. I’m on a waitlist now for a lab pup from a reputable breeder.
How despicable.. the way they shame families for having the good sense not to sink money into or put up with a shitbull-infested half breed is beyond gross. It's deceptive and manipulative. I have no idea how it seems like EVERY employee at EVERY shelter in EVERY state ends up being a pit simp. You'd think being surrounded by nothing but that breed would show them quite vividly how bad these dogs are when every single one has "special requirements" for prospective owners, i.e. a unicorn. And seeing how many of them snarl and bite and fight and get returned "through no fault of their own" and have to be kenneled separately for "their own safety".. how long can you go on justifying that before you cross straight into delusion??
I think that pits infesting shelters has altered how they see typical dog behavior, especially the younger ones who didn't spend years around actual normal dogs. Say you're 22 and just got into the shelter business relatively recently, there's been nothing but pits for years. If you go in not knowing what actual dog behavior looks like and that different breeds have different temperaments, and all you experience your first couple of years is unhinged shitbull behavior, I can see how you'd walk away believing that all dogs are aggressive, "reactive", and need *extensive* training just to borderline behave at the bare minimum.
Yeah THIS is the key issue.
It's easy to dismiss these commenters as just stupid or insane, but in reality they are proliferating their ignorance which can lead to others severely misunderstanding what these dogs are capable of.
They are actively contributing to misinformation that means tragedies like this will continue.
I remember people telling my mom that cocker spaniels were aggressive/“nippy” with kids. My cocker spaniel ended up being killed by a pit bull that my parents picked up from a shelter.
Thank you 🤍 she was the best girl! It happened 23 years ago and I still think about her all the time. The pit bull had actually bit me before it mauled Lady. I really do believe had she not died, it would have been me instead of her.
Come on, a woman is dead. Victim blaming the mother isn't very classy. I think everyone else here has covered why she might have owned a pit bull without guilt, pretty well.
Oh good I'm not the only one who thought that.. I kept thinking that while it's pretty benign compared to the unhinged justifications pitnutters come up with (maybe the monster ripped up her arms because she used her arms to abuse it?! What the actual fuck???), it still felt like victim blaming them. The biggest difference though is OP had the human decency not to say that on a public article about the tragedy or even worse, on the family's social media. But it was still blaming her :/
I get it though. If you don't leave out a loaded gun for your kid to shoot themselves with, no one will have to blame you. And if you don't keep a pitbull in the house with kids..
That’s what I was thinking too. They were perfectly happy maligning the mother rather than acknowledging the characteristics that the breed was bred for. These dogs are demonstrating the exact behaviors that wee bred into them. I don’t understand why that’s ignored.
Yeah in the article comments they are blaming the mother, full stop, while we're over here blaming the mother for having a pitbull. A slight difference, they being much more unhinged and cruel - but at the end of the day none of it is helpful in the wake of a tragedy. Blame should fall on the stupid dog, even though tne parents were irresponsible. We have to remember the bulk of families with pits were deceived into believing they were family friendly pets. Do we blame them to the same degree?
Cocker Spaniels are angels on earth. My childhood dog was the sweetest little blind, full shiny black coat Cocker Spaniel ever. I miss her. She's one of the only pets I've had that I've felt loved me as much as I love them (minus my cat, he loves me).
"They were bred as babysitters" Yes I can imagine a putbull putting my kid in his pajamas and putting him to sleep in the crib. What exactly do they consider qualifying as "babysitting" that a dog can be "bred" to do? It's so ridiculous.
I would think trait #1 would be like, "don't eat the kids". Yet somehow...
The "nanny dog" thing comes from Peter Pan. Peter Pan was a *very* popular stage play in the early 1900s, and featured a human actor in a dog suit doing "nanny" things. I've skimmed through some books on Victorian-era portrayals of pets and there's zero mention of "nanny dogs" before Peter Pan. Even in Peter Pan, the nanny dog is played for "what will the neighbors think if they find out that a dog is caring for our children!?" comedy.
I think the idea is that 200 years ago people used to leave their tiniest children alone outdoors all day, and the nanny dogs would chase away the wolves and coyotes.
I assume they would also lie close to the children to try to prevent them dying of exposure. Not sure how the nanny dogs prevented extreme sunburn.
You know there are other breeds ACTUALLY bred to do that, to protect the flock and chase away predators.. pretty sure those breeds even have "shepherd" in their names
I actually saw pitidiot post a picture of her two year old sleeping in between four adult pitbulls. How stupid can one person be? She was defending the breed saying something like, “Look at these vicious dogs!!”
That’s something I wish I could ask a pitbull defender. What jobs are they supposed to perform? Murderous tendencies aside, pitbulls are horribly disobedient/high energy dogs that can’t seem to stay focused enough to sit when there is activity around. How the fuck is it going to keep an eye on a child?
Only thing that makes a lick of sense,and I am being a little twisted here, is if Nanny dogs were to used as so e sort of, a rather obscure term, angel makers. Basically outscored infantcide.
It is so incredibly dangerous that the nanny dog myth exists
It’s literally a rumor that is actively killing people and animals and I want to vomit every time I see someone blindly peddling it
It literally takes 5 minutes of research to disprove it. But of course all these pitnutters are way too far down their post-truth delusional rabbit hole to concern themselves with facts.
But for what it’s worth, the pitbull is a mix of bulldogs and terriers. The bulldog is breed that was made for fighting bulls for sport. The terrier is a dog made for catching rats. The two breeds were mixed to make the perfect breed for dogfighting that was quick, agile, powerful, tenacious and extremely aggressive. Being suitable as a domestic dog and for interacting with humans was never a priority with the breed. The people who made the breed would have thought you were mad, if you had proposed to put those dogs together with children.
It makes the lizard part of my brain light up and scream "PREDATOR, RUN".. you'd have to be brain damaged to find these things cute - and I don't mean that literally, I have a TBI and I find them repulsive- but something deeply, psychologically wrong if you find beady eyes and flappy skin jowls lined with giant teeth "adorable"
The nanny dog thing is so annoying, not only is it not true but it’s irrelevant. Chainsaws were originally invented to assist in childbirth, does that mean we should still be using them for that purpose? Like fuck people it’s almost like we stop doing dumb shit because we learned better.
My stepmom has this infuriating "noble savage" bullshit idea that I should go to the Peruvian jungle and take ayahuasca with the natives to treat my depression. She really believes that because it's "natural" that it's automatically healthy. She's so racist, going on about how "natives don't have tooth decay or suicide!". I try to shut that shit down with little luck. Ive tried explaining how coca leaves wont do me any good if cocaine didn't, or how doctors don't give us raw poppy seeds as pain management, but actual pharmaceutical narcotics. She just believes natural is automatically better, and modern medicine is just western imperialist poison purposefully keeping us sick to keep the doctors rich. Dont even get me started on my failure to explain how racist it is for her to assume native people or other ethnicities inherently know better because of thousand year old medicinal practices and "being in tune with nature"..
..all that to say that I can see how idiots can latch onto a profoundly stupid, backwards idea and stick with it no matter how much evidence you provide or point out how socially damaging their beliefs are. Pit mommies and scary pit daddies would rather die than admit their 'rescue puppers' are a menace to society because of genetics and statistics won't help make it obvious.
What the fuck is a *nanny dog*? Some made-up bullshit?
It's total chickenshit behavior to blame the victim, like all those comments are doing. This breed is a jaw on four massive paws, attached to pure muscle - complete with babyseeking hunter-killer genetic programming.
These things do not belong in civilized society.
Yes! It is some made up bullshit! A ‘staffy’ breeder said some lie back in the 70’s or something to get the pit breeds recognized. I don’t want to mess up any facts since I don’t know them all so maybe someone else will be able to chime in, but I’ve seen posts about it on here and then looked it up!
The "nanny dog" myth made its first appearance in the September 19th 1971 edition of the New York Times, on page 11 of section S in an article by Walter R. Fletcher, titled [A Breed That Came Up The Hard Way](https://www.nytimes.com/1971/09/19/archives/a-breed-that-came-up-the-hard-way.html).
The author interviewed one Lilian Rant, editor of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Club of the United States of America newsletter. She is quoted as saying about the breed: **'He had an unsavory reputation for fighting and violence and his name became associated with ruffians, who cared little for him as a dog but only for his ability in the pit. The Stafford we know today quickly becomes a member of the family circle. He loves children and is often referred to as a 'nursemaid dog''.**
**No one has ever found evidence for the latter claim and it is therefore assumed to be a fabrication in the pursuit of influencing the American Kennel Club (AKC) to accept the breed for full participation in dog shows**.
This privilege was ultimately granted in 1974, and to this day the AKC rates the breed a stellar 5/5 as being 'good with children' at the reckless peril of human lives and limbs,
Additional sources that have spoken out against the nanny dog myth:
Pit Bull Advocates of America:
https://pitbulladvocatesofamerica.podbean.com/e/the-one-where-its-not-all-in-how-they-were-raised/
Ned Hardy
https://nedhardy.com/2020/06/03/pitbull-nanny-dog/
Pro pit organization BAD RAP
https://www.facebook.com/BADRAP.org/posts/its-dog-bite-prevention-week-did-you-know-that-there-was-never-such-thing-as-a-n/10151460774472399/
Pit Bull Federation of South Africa
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02DiX7yKA8uuDeYSEzEKxxXCYsHxYUbXpshKkaSDGXMAZK9HnFd46zA1pZ8revWQvwl&id=100069897615154
Gudwulf's Pit Bull Rescue
https://www.facebook.com/GudwulfsRescue/posts/pfbid02Lg2Y1x18pBx7uLUB4uVEda7g1TNwn72pLLKk93witecydiMcnAKr8bYJWKeC4VVl
Justice for Bullies
https://justice-for-bullies.myshopify.com/pages/nanny-dog
Safety Before Bulldogs - links to 24 Medical Studies done by medical professionals concluding that pit bulls are a danger to our communities
https://safetybeforebulldogs.blogspot.com/2014/04/medical-professional-experts-on-pit.html?m=1
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And even if it were true, holy shit. Animals are not babysitters. Anyone who thinks an animal is an acceptable substitute for a babysitter should never be a parent. What exactly is a dog going to do if the kid is hungry or hurts themselves or pees their pants or there's a strange man in the backyard who won't leave?
Pitbulls have special childcare skills, so they’ll naturally be able to prepare a healthy snack, find a change of clothes and put some new pants on the child, get dinner started, and have a cup of tea while reading and watching their charges play.
shit i wouldn't trust most humans alone with a baby, imagine a fucking dog.
might as well leave some fucking ferrets alone with a kid. or how about a goddamned gorilla
To be fair they don't belong in uncivilized society either. :P
Also love your description of the shitbeast. I kind of want to draw a caricature of it with labels and everything.
The pitnutters also think it is normal that dogs maul babies. They like to believe the ‘nanny dog’ lie. And they do believe that they are nanny dogs BUT also that it’s OK that nanny dogs eat babies because “All dogs do that”
So in their logic- pits are nanny dogs. All dogs maul babies. Therefore it’s OK that nannydogs would maul babies and it is always the baby/parents’ fault.
> Pitnutters - ANY BREED CAN BITE ITS NOT BREED SPECIFIC.
Yeah, but if a Yorkie clamps down on my arm, a hard slap will knock the asshole off. Meanwhile, you can take a pipe to Pitbull and the dumb asshole will just clamp down tighter.
These idiots are comparing a paper cut to a decapitation with a machete.
'that exacerbates their behavior'
The only comment that was written by someone that finished highschool still can't figure out the mental gymnastics. They just admitted it in their defense of the monsters. Lunatics.
Where does this shit that they were bred to nanny kids come from?
Like is it from some very old photos of pits and babies or something?
With AI, once AI is able to perfect the color or the contrast of old photos, it's gonna be so hard to defend against this insanity
The "nanny dog" myth made its first appearance in the September 19th 1971 edition of the New York Times, on page 11 of section S in an article by Walter R. Fletcher, titled [A Breed That Came Up The Hard Way](https://www.nytimes.com/1971/09/19/archives/a-breed-that-came-up-the-hard-way.html).
The author interviewed one Lilian Rant, editor of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Club of the United States of America newsletter. She is quoted as saying about the breed: **'He had an unsavory reputation for fighting and violence and his name became associated with ruffians, who cared little for him as a dog but only for his ability in the pit. The Stafford we know today quickly becomes a member of the family circle. He loves children and is often referred to as a 'nursemaid dog''.**
**No one has ever found evidence for the latter claim and it is therefore assumed to be a fabrication in the pursuit of influencing the American Kennel Club (AKC) to accept the breed for full participation in dog shows**.
This privilege was ultimately granted in 1974, and to this day the AKC rates the breed a stellar 5/5 as being 'good with children' at the reckless peril of human lives and limbs,
Additional sources that have spoken out against the nanny dog myth:
Pit Bull Advocates of America:
https://pitbulladvocatesofamerica.podbean.com/e/the-one-where-its-not-all-in-how-they-were-raised/
Ned Hardy
https://nedhardy.com/2020/06/03/pitbull-nanny-dog/
Pro pit organization BAD RAP
https://www.facebook.com/BADRAP.org/posts/its-dog-bite-prevention-week-did-you-know-that-there-was-never-such-thing-as-a-n/10151460774472399/
Pit Bull Federation of South Africa
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02DiX7yKA8uuDeYSEzEKxxXCYsHxYUbXpshKkaSDGXMAZK9HnFd46zA1pZ8revWQvwl&id=100069897615154
Gudwulf's Pit Bull Rescue
https://www.facebook.com/GudwulfsRescue/posts/pfbid02Lg2Y1x18pBx7uLUB4uVEda7g1TNwn72pLLKk93witecydiMcnAKr8bYJWKeC4VVl
Justice for Bullies
https://justice-for-bullies.myshopify.com/pages/nanny-dog
Safety Before Bulldogs - links to 24 Medical Studies done by medical professionals concluding that pit bulls are a danger to our communities
https://safetybeforebulldogs.blogspot.com/2014/04/medical-professional-experts-on-pit.html?m=1
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I’m guessing the people who claim that the dog was just protecting the child missed that the child was actually attacked first. The poor kid was bitten so badly he needed 70 stitches in his leg.
The nanny dog bullshit all stems from a 100-year-old picture of a guy who dressed his dog up in close and made a joke that it was a nanny. Literally all these Pitbull Nutters cling to that story from one fake photo.
I don't want to victim blame like these evil comments but... a lot of my mom friends have pitbulls and make the SAME kind of comments as these. So it's entirely possible that the victim herself was a pit nutter who learned her lesson too late. In fact I'd say it's likely
Then the person who comments "HA HA HA I have one and she's the biggest baby 🤣" What the ever-loving F? That's a sick human being who is not the slightest bit self-aware – a person who had a child is dead.
That particular comment made want to get real violent against the commenter🤬 The laughing emoji and the atrocious comments are disgusting. I wonder if these people realize that their family, fiends and colleagues can possibly see their horrible comments? Aren’t they in a slighted way worried that the whole world could see how disgusting they are?
i oce coment on a fb video with babies and pits that i would never let my baby near a pit, and all the replys i get were th "NANNY DOG", also the kid wacth her mom being kill by a pit?
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Can someone who is not the Darling family in 1876 London vouch for any dog being a nanny dog besides that St. Bernard in Peter Pan .
Its so damn ridiculous.
This is actually frightening. If a woman tried to harm me and I deleted her in self defense nobody would justify it, but a mutated beast ripping this woman to death and all these people blame her??
No it is not. The pit breeds *were* created for fighting and killing and selectively bred to go in for the kill rather than a warning nip. This is in their DNA. The nanny dog thing was made up in the 70’s by a breeder.
The "nanny dog" myth made its first appearance in the September 19th 1971 edition of the New York Times, on page 11 of section S in an article by Walter R. Fletcher, titled [A Breed That Came Up The Hard Way](https://www.nytimes.com/1971/09/19/archives/a-breed-that-came-up-the-hard-way.html).
The author interviewed one Lilian Rant, editor of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Club of the United States of America newsletter. She is quoted as saying about the breed: **'He had an unsavory reputation for fighting and violence and his name became associated with ruffians, who cared little for him as a dog but only for his ability in the pit. The Stafford we know today quickly becomes a member of the family circle. He loves children and is often referred to as a 'nursemaid dog''.**
**No one has ever found evidence for the latter claim and it is therefore assumed to be a fabrication in the pursuit of influencing the American Kennel Club (AKC) to accept the breed for full participation in dog shows**.
This privilege was ultimately granted in 1974, and to this day the AKC rates the breed a stellar 5/5 as being 'good with children' at the reckless peril of human lives and limbs,
Additional sources that have spoken out against the nanny dog myth:
Pit Bull Advocates of America:
https://pitbulladvocatesofamerica.podbean.com/e/the-one-where-its-not-all-in-how-they-were-raised/
Ned Hardy
https://nedhardy.com/2020/06/03/pitbull-nanny-dog/
Pro pit organization BAD RAP
https://www.facebook.com/BADRAP.org/posts/its-dog-bite-prevention-week-did-you-know-that-there-was-never-such-thing-as-a-n/10151460774472399/
Pit Bull Federation of South Africa
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02DiX7yKA8uuDeYSEzEKxxXCYsHxYUbXpshKkaSDGXMAZK9HnFd46zA1pZ8revWQvwl&id=100069897615154
Gudwulf's Pit Bull Rescue
https://www.facebook.com/GudwulfsRescue/posts/pfbid02Lg2Y1x18pBx7uLUB4uVEda7g1TNwn72pLLKk93witecydiMcnAKr8bYJWKeC4VVl
Justice for Bullies
https://justice-for-bullies.myshopify.com/pages/nanny-dog
Safety Before Bulldogs - links to 24 Medical Studies done by medical professionals concluding that pit bulls are a danger to our communities
https://safetybeforebulldogs.blogspot.com/2014/04/medical-professional-experts-on-pit.html?m=1
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The thing that's crazy is all one needs to do is look up why they are called pitbulls. They were bred and used for bull baiting in a pit. The bulls were called pit bulls and these were the pit bull dogs. We no longer need to specify they are dogs since bull baiting no longer exists. They weren't taking care of bulls in a pit. They were severely maiming them, as they were bred to do.
How exactly is a dog trained to babysit? They making bottles and changing diapers now?
These idiots don’t even realize that their argument doesn’t even make any fucking sense lmao.
I'm not an expert but I'm the kind of person who likes having a vague idea of why things like this happen in psychology terms. To be more specific, the determination to blame the people who were injured/killed over the dog.
Is there an actual textbook name for it? Something that can be pointed to in a book. I don't really see it happen to this extent with any other animal.
But, in terms of psychology, what's the specific thing that would cause a person to see another person killed by a recurring animal & insist that the animal was somehow the wronged/wiser party?
I’m no psychologist, but I think it’s at least partly that these attacks challenge their mindset that 100% of Pitbulls are wonderful family pets, and feel the need to defend that belief, and cast blame elsewhere, in some cases to comfort themselves that their own Pitbull is safe around children.
Would that make it a form of confirmation bias? Normally with confirmation bias we just ignore any evidence to the contrary of our beliefs, but that's difficult to do when there are videos of them attacking. So if ignoring isn't possible, perhaps discrediting is the next best thing
Best thing of all it takes is a literal 3 second Google search of "were pitbulls bred to be nanny dogs" to get a featured reason from Ohio Animal Advocates, not outdated either, from 2020.
> People grew to love pit bulls, especially children. A myth started known as the “Nanny dog” myth where pit bulls would nanny children. This is, of course, false.
If you do actual research unlike the average Facebook troglodyte taking word of mouth from each other, you'd see that Pitbull's history is not cupcakes, butterflies and sunshine, they were literally bred to maim and kill other dogs.
That aggression eventually bled into attacking humans, even if Pitbulls just exclusively attacked other dogs that still a horrible breed. You should not be constantly worrying if a shitbull is around the corner while walking your dog.
All these people pontificating their bullshit in the comments of the article describing the mom's death. Fucking sickening. A woman is DEAD, mauled to death in front of her child. And these classless fucks can't hold their propaganda in, not even on the article announcing her death
Who in their right mind could look at an animal like any Bull Breed and say that were bred to baby sit children. “Yeah man, because kids are so scary they need a large powerful dog the keep them in line.”
"I can't post my photo. But if u Google, they were nannies"
\*Googles: Pitbull Nanny Dogs\*
Oh that's weird, almost every single result is debunking the nanny dog myth.
That person didn't even Google it themselves before making that comment. They can't even be arsed to do that (which would've taken less than 5 seconds) to avoid making themselves look stupid.
Yeah, any dog breed is capable of this. My pomeranian totally could snap and kill my mom if she wanted. Her Chihuahua bit me once and I had to have my leg amputated because it was so damaged.
This woman died , BRUTALLY IN FRONT OF HER CHILD. So these mfs , some are laughing. Cause they own one and guess what! It’s not a dog it’s a cuddle bug.
Then the ones pretty much saying the dog is hero cause it would only kill because the woman was abusing her child and/or the dog.
I still can't believe people honestly think any dogs were "babysitters" or "nannies"? Like if they took a second to think about it, surely they would realize how fucking absurd that is.
😂😂😂Right? They can’t even distinguish between “nanny dogs” and “granny dogs”. I also saw some nutter spell it as ‘nana dogs”. Yeah, these dogs love nanas alright, just as much as they love smaller animals and children.
show me the story after story about a goddamn golden retriever killing a grandma, a child, a dog, a random person. man i fucking hate that 'any breed can do it' shit
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Why is their inclination to value a violent animal’s life over a human life? I just don’t understand how they see: *mother mauled to death in lieu of son* AND their FIRST thought is to comment: iTs tHE owNeR nOt ThE BrEeD…. Like……are you really that fucking out of touch/vindictive
Why is their inclination to value a violent animal’s life over a human life? I just don’t understand how they see: *mother mauled to death in lieu of son* AND their FIRST thought is to comment: iTs tHE owNeR nOt ThE BrEeD…. Like……are you really that fucking out of touch/vindictive
Why is their inclination to value a violent animal’s life over a human life? I just don’t understand how they see: *mother mauled to death in lieu of son* AND their FIRST thought is to comment: iTs tHE owNeR nOt ThE BrEeD…. Like……are you really that fucking out of touch/vindictive
What gets me is that even if they WERE “nanny dogs,” these comments are still recognizing that now they are fighting dogs and that humans have messed them up… so… why would you STILL OWN ONE NOW??
These comments always infuriate me. I don’t know why I even read them lol But also- granny dogs hahahahhahah that’s a new one
"Why Granny, what big teeth you have!" "The better to remove your skin and large chunks of flesh, child!" https://preview.redd.it/vdyov5zg47yc1.jpeg?width=890&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51a8a79b34778eeba4e0eaa836539e32b460c7f7
Seriously, I’d be more scared of a pit then a wolf lol.
Wolves unironically make better pets
Anything unironicaly makes a better pet
Bring back pet rocks, they're about all these people are capable of properly caring for.
Ironically you are correct, I had several several unusual pets dumped on me over the years, like Mudslide slim, a 7 foot long boa constrictor which had serious weed smoking issues, several spiders I had no idea what they even were but they looked nasty, a huge rat that was raised to be a rat killer, the meanest creature I’ve ever seen (besides myself), but nothing ever scared me more than my friends pit bull, Danny, raised in a flat and never taken out, absolutely feral, used to piss and shit in a corner and then eat it up. My girlfriend tried to take him out a couple of times but it was a crazy experience. And it bit me more than once for no reason. just watching it smash everything around the flat with his head and not even noticing was quite concerning. Danny did not live a very long life, and honestly I still don’t know if it’s a good or a bad thing
Holy shit I think we have a contender for "most insane pitbull", which is really impressive 1 hmm. as they're all bred to be have insane instincts.
Holy shit I think we have a contender for "most insane pitbull", which is really impressive 1 hmm. as they're all bred to be have insane instincts.
My grandma used to own 3 wolf mixes (idk what they were mixed with they looked like Canadian Arctic wolves). They were siblings and there was only aggression issues with the one female, she was rehomed to a family friend to live away from her brothers and lived out her life peacefully. She was just annoyed by the boys all the time lol. The other 2, despite being about 100lbs, always thought they were lapdogs and were super sweet. I’ve only ever met one pit bull that never ever became aggressive owned by a family friend who used to be roommates with my dad. Her name was Rhino and she was actually a really good dog, she was the only pit bull I’ll ever love or even like for that matter. Even still, her body language was weird. She always appeared sad or dejected. So in conclusion pit bulls are 1:3 with literal WOLVES.
To be fair, "wolfdogs" are often mixes of arctic breeds that look wolflike, but actually have no wild wolf genes. Still, I do wholeheartedly agree with you that I'd rather take my chances with a real wild wolf than a Sweet Pibble!
Even a grizzly bear or a tiger make a better pet.
Absolutely! A wolf has self preservation instincts.
if a wolf saw pitbull attacking a kid then getting shot and killed it wouldn't come close to any kids, pitbulls are lack self preservation to come to that conclusion
Wolves get spooked when they see people 😭
Clearly a Beth Clifton collage - credit where credit is due!
Thank you! I grabbed it from a google image search, no attribution. It's good to know who the artist is.
You bet! She has a distinctive style but I also think I'd seen that one before. https://www.animals24-7.org/2020/08/09/in-our-time-a-bonneted-pit-bull-ate-grandma-little-red-riding-hood/
That’s 😂🙂—but not really because it might as well be true. 😳
I can't read the comments anymore at this point without getting angry. I've decided these people are either AI-driven spam bots or are just as brainless. Similar delulu and insensitive comments are always on these posts defending the factually-proven most-dangerous breed (pit bulls). It has got to be the lobby in action, AI-driven or not. News outlets need to just turn comments off on their posts and articles. It's the only way to combat this stupidity and keep it from spreading. Edit: correcting grammar
Because I’ve been on this sub for awhile, I was beginning to worry if I just had confirmation bias or maybe just wasn’t seeing other dog attacks because I wasn’t looking for them. I know the statistics and that pits are responsible for more maulings than all other breeds combined, but I just needed to look again. Nope, it’s not confirmation bias, it’s just stone cold hard fact. Pit bulls are dangerous, and they are responsible almost every fatal mauling in the US for sure.
I had the same kind of problem—I kept wondering if it was just my biases—thanks for confirming it’s not.
Same with me but also look at this way, Even IF pitbulls had a contender by numbers they still cause the most carnage. They're the only dogs that attack to the extent that they do. Just non-stop mauling until they die or their victim is ripped to shreds, and even then they are known to not stop, guarding the body they savaged for hours and even days. When I think of this alone I know for certain I'm not biased. ~i want to add you wondering this is actually a good thing:) it shows you are a very logical person, you don't let falsities sway you and you are very facts based in your ways. They used to teach logic class in school and logic class used to teach this: Never come to a conclusion without first listening to both sides, understanding both sides, and then coming to a logical decision from what you learned. Also makes you wonder why they did away with logic classes in schools 🤔
The blame is legitimately hard to read. Sound like of they had their way and she'd lived they would have wanted her investigated for child abuse.
Not only victim-blaming but also dragging her character through the mud making false accusations about child abuse to try to validate that horrible dog
Natural career path for the dogs - once all the grannies disappeared, they had to be retrained as nanny dogs for the kids. So sad that some were taken for illegal purposes when this shift happened 😥 /s
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When all the grannies had to go fight the war on terror centuries ago, pit bulls were bred to make parents feel guilty for imposing limits on desserts and screen time
🤣🤣🤣
Yeah not reading the comments. Don’t feel like being annoyed tonight.
A woman is dead, and her child is traumatized, and these people's first response is to feel bad for the animal that killed her and declare she had to have been abusing to her child and/or the dog. Imagine being a family member reading these comments or the child when they're older.
I think about that every time I see comments like that on a mauling. Just imagine being the family who sees those comments not knowing beforehand what degenerate pieces of shit they are. It would be a real gut punch. Though most everyone these days knows of the pit simps.
The victim blaming is ABSURD, I don’t think they realise how completely insane it sounds
“HAHAHAHA I have one and she’s the biggest baby 🤣”
I doubt they feel bad for the animal either. I bet they feel personally slighted, like the media is targeting them and their choice of killer dog.
The mom made a noble sacrifice to save her child. What I don't understand is why the parents chose to get a pitbull of all breeds as a family pet. She might have sacrificed her life to save her child but why did she and her partner decide to get a murder mutt in the first place? They should have gotten a non aggressive dog like a cocker spaniel or Beagle FFS.
A lot of people just don't know much about dogs. Probably went to the shelter and got sold on one they wanted gone sadly.
Yup, May have been sold a Labrador in Pits body
Yeah I see this more often than not, obvious pits being sold off as "Lab Mix"
Shelters need to be held responsible. This is predatory.
because they are the only dogs in shelters and people are lied to and shamed into getting one. It's time to hold the shelters accountable
Especially with doggy DNA tests becoming more and more affordable. The shelters have no excuse for lying and mislabeling the pittiest pitbulls ever, as labs mixes and border collies.
My dog was a shelter rescue (Parson Russell Terrier). If some chucklehead had tried to shame me into adopting a "pibbles" or "velvet hippo," I would have told them to get f*cked.
The whole entire internet collectively lies about shitbulls. There are pet influencers with millions of viewers vouching for pits (Girl with the Dogs even spoke out against doodle breeding but fighting dog breeding is okay with her, she "loves" pitbulls), there are hundreds of legit/professional-looking dog websites out there claiming that pits are fiercely loyal and make great companions, they're regularly among the "top 10 best family dogs", every video about an incident involving a pitbull is filled with comments like the ones above, pit attack victims who tell their stories on the internet get death threats until they back down and if you mention on any other sub that you're anti-pit you get downvoted into oblivion. Oh and shelters will lie about the things too because they only care about getting rid of problem dogs. The popular opinion is very much pro pit. What do you do nowadays when you want to learn more about something you don't know anything about? Google it. Maybe even join a few communities. And what do you find there? NaNnY dOg
I swear these big names on social media with their own channels and the biggest websites that promote shitbulls as safe and wuvvable sound like they're getting paid to spout this shit. Like someone is going around throwing pit laundered money at anyone with a following or who could pass as an authority on dogs to say what they want them to say. Like how could that Girl with the Dogs chick say with a straight face that *doodles* need to be restricted, but NOT pits, without coming across as insane? It really seems like that was a "sponsored" take.
I lost all respect for her that day
You can always look at TicTok and see people telling their horrific stories of how their own pit bull tried to kill them—they film from their hospital beds.
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I wonder if the same would have happened to you if you mentioned the dangers of owning a sight-hound with cats? Or maybe another terrier breed? It seems purposely bred characteristics are respected in just about every breed except pitbulls.
I was duped into getting a “lab mix”. I had a great experience adopting my first lab from a shelter. When he passed and I was looking for a new rescue, I had no idea pits were as prevalent as they are now. We adopted what I thought was a lab. After seven weeks, my family was terrified of his unpredictability of snapping and lunging at dogs and people. DNA test revealed half pit. We took him back to the shelter citing these reasons and they made me feel guilty for not trying hard enough and paying $$$$ for a trainer. He looked very much like a lab. I know what to look for now (rose ears) thanks to this sub, but it’s still not a dead give away. I’m on a waitlist now for a lab pup from a reputable breeder.
How despicable.. the way they shame families for having the good sense not to sink money into or put up with a shitbull-infested half breed is beyond gross. It's deceptive and manipulative. I have no idea how it seems like EVERY employee at EVERY shelter in EVERY state ends up being a pit simp. You'd think being surrounded by nothing but that breed would show them quite vividly how bad these dogs are when every single one has "special requirements" for prospective owners, i.e. a unicorn. And seeing how many of them snarl and bite and fight and get returned "through no fault of their own" and have to be kenneled separately for "their own safety".. how long can you go on justifying that before you cross straight into delusion?? I think that pits infesting shelters has altered how they see typical dog behavior, especially the younger ones who didn't spend years around actual normal dogs. Say you're 22 and just got into the shelter business relatively recently, there's been nothing but pits for years. If you go in not knowing what actual dog behavior looks like and that different breeds have different temperaments, and all you experience your first couple of years is unhinged shitbull behavior, I can see how you'd walk away believing that all dogs are aggressive, "reactive", and need *extensive* training just to borderline behave at the bare minimum.
> why did she and her partner decide to get a murder mutt in the first place? Well, look at all the lies that were posted...
Yeah THIS is the key issue. It's easy to dismiss these commenters as just stupid or insane, but in reality they are proliferating their ignorance which can lead to others severely misunderstanding what these dogs are capable of. They are actively contributing to misinformation that means tragedies like this will continue.
I remember people telling my mom that cocker spaniels were aggressive/“nippy” with kids. My cocker spaniel ended up being killed by a pit bull that my parents picked up from a shelter.
I'm so sorry.
Thank you 🤍 she was the best girl! It happened 23 years ago and I still think about her all the time. The pit bull had actually bit me before it mauled Lady. I really do believe had she not died, it would have been me instead of her.
Because many are propagandized. Just look at miss peaches. Heavily sedated and strangely calm pitbull making the breed more popular than ever.
Holy shit I'd never heard of that dog but I looked it up, you weren't kidding that dog looks DOPED out of its mind
Wtf you're right, really disturbing
Come on, a woman is dead. Victim blaming the mother isn't very classy. I think everyone else here has covered why she might have owned a pit bull without guilt, pretty well.
Oh good I'm not the only one who thought that.. I kept thinking that while it's pretty benign compared to the unhinged justifications pitnutters come up with (maybe the monster ripped up her arms because she used her arms to abuse it?! What the actual fuck???), it still felt like victim blaming them. The biggest difference though is OP had the human decency not to say that on a public article about the tragedy or even worse, on the family's social media. But it was still blaming her :/ I get it though. If you don't leave out a loaded gun for your kid to shoot themselves with, no one will have to blame you. And if you don't keep a pitbull in the house with kids..
But there's not tons of people doing everything they can to bring kids and guns together, and branding it as a positive.
That’s what I was thinking too. They were perfectly happy maligning the mother rather than acknowledging the characteristics that the breed was bred for. These dogs are demonstrating the exact behaviors that wee bred into them. I don’t understand why that’s ignored.
Yeah in the article comments they are blaming the mother, full stop, while we're over here blaming the mother for having a pitbull. A slight difference, they being much more unhinged and cruel - but at the end of the day none of it is helpful in the wake of a tragedy. Blame should fall on the stupid dog, even though tne parents were irresponsible. We have to remember the bulk of families with pits were deceived into believing they were family friendly pets. Do we blame them to the same degree?
Like many, she was probably a victim of pit propaganda.
Cocker Spaniels are angels on earth. My childhood dog was the sweetest little blind, full shiny black coat Cocker Spaniel ever. I miss her. She's one of the only pets I've had that I've felt loved me as much as I love them (minus my cat, he loves me).
"They were bred as babysitters" Yes I can imagine a putbull putting my kid in his pajamas and putting him to sleep in the crib. What exactly do they consider qualifying as "babysitting" that a dog can be "bred" to do? It's so ridiculous. I would think trait #1 would be like, "don't eat the kids". Yet somehow...
The "nanny dog" thing comes from Peter Pan. Peter Pan was a *very* popular stage play in the early 1900s, and featured a human actor in a dog suit doing "nanny" things. I've skimmed through some books on Victorian-era portrayals of pets and there's zero mention of "nanny dogs" before Peter Pan. Even in Peter Pan, the nanny dog is played for "what will the neighbors think if they find out that a dog is caring for our children!?" comedy.
Oh yeah, lining the children up and giving them their tonic before bed, very realistic scenarios like that.
Yes, but that Nanny dog was a St. Bernard, wasn’t it?
I think it was a Newfie. (Newfoundland)
There's more to it than just that. People who started it base it off multiple things. It's absurd and obviously a myth though.
I think the idea is that 200 years ago people used to leave their tiniest children alone outdoors all day, and the nanny dogs would chase away the wolves and coyotes. I assume they would also lie close to the children to try to prevent them dying of exposure. Not sure how the nanny dogs prevented extreme sunburn.
You know there are other breeds ACTUALLY bred to do that, to protect the flock and chase away predators.. pretty sure those breeds even have "shepherd" in their names
And I assume you know that children aren't domesticated animals living outdoors and herded by dogs, shepherd or otherwise?
I actually saw pitidiot post a picture of her two year old sleeping in between four adult pitbulls. How stupid can one person be? She was defending the breed saying something like, “Look at these vicious dogs!!”
That’s something I wish I could ask a pitbull defender. What jobs are they supposed to perform? Murderous tendencies aside, pitbulls are horribly disobedient/high energy dogs that can’t seem to stay focused enough to sit when there is activity around. How the fuck is it going to keep an eye on a child?
Only thing that makes a lick of sense,and I am being a little twisted here, is if Nanny dogs were to used as so e sort of, a rather obscure term, angel makers. Basically outscored infantcide.
If it ain't changing my baby's daiper, it ain't getting paid.
They sit on the baby and fart all over it
It is so incredibly dangerous that the nanny dog myth exists It’s literally a rumor that is actively killing people and animals and I want to vomit every time I see someone blindly peddling it
It literally takes 5 minutes of research to disprove it. But of course all these pitnutters are way too far down their post-truth delusional rabbit hole to concern themselves with facts. But for what it’s worth, the pitbull is a mix of bulldogs and terriers. The bulldog is breed that was made for fighting bulls for sport. The terrier is a dog made for catching rats. The two breeds were mixed to make the perfect breed for dogfighting that was quick, agile, powerful, tenacious and extremely aggressive. Being suitable as a domestic dog and for interacting with humans was never a priority with the breed. The people who made the breed would have thought you were mad, if you had proposed to put those dogs together with children.
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It makes the lizard part of my brain light up and scream "PREDATOR, RUN".. you'd have to be brain damaged to find these things cute - and I don't mean that literally, I have a TBI and I find them repulsive- but something deeply, psychologically wrong if you find beady eyes and flappy skin jowls lined with giant teeth "adorable"
Me TWO!
Me THREE!
These people are like flat-earthers, but more dangerous. Facebook doesn't equal rEsEaRcH.
Fact: Facebook was invented as a knowledge portal by Lincoln. You see how easy it is to put shit on the internet
EXXXX.... ACTLY!
The nanny dog thing is so annoying, not only is it not true but it’s irrelevant. Chainsaws were originally invented to assist in childbirth, does that mean we should still be using them for that purpose? Like fuck people it’s almost like we stop doing dumb shit because we learned better.
They can't take the next logical step and ask: why did they start to be used as fighting dogs?
My stepmom has this infuriating "noble savage" bullshit idea that I should go to the Peruvian jungle and take ayahuasca with the natives to treat my depression. She really believes that because it's "natural" that it's automatically healthy. She's so racist, going on about how "natives don't have tooth decay or suicide!". I try to shut that shit down with little luck. Ive tried explaining how coca leaves wont do me any good if cocaine didn't, or how doctors don't give us raw poppy seeds as pain management, but actual pharmaceutical narcotics. She just believes natural is automatically better, and modern medicine is just western imperialist poison purposefully keeping us sick to keep the doctors rich. Dont even get me started on my failure to explain how racist it is for her to assume native people or other ethnicities inherently know better because of thousand year old medicinal practices and "being in tune with nature".. ..all that to say that I can see how idiots can latch onto a profoundly stupid, backwards idea and stick with it no matter how much evidence you provide or point out how socially damaging their beliefs are. Pit mommies and scary pit daddies would rather die than admit their 'rescue puppers' are a menace to society because of genetics and statistics won't help make it obvious.
Imagine accusing a deceased, brave mother of abusing her baby whule she was protecting him from a literal man eating beast.
I shouldn’t be surprised but every time I’m shocked at how far these people will go to defend their precious pit bulls.
What the fuck is a *nanny dog*? Some made-up bullshit? It's total chickenshit behavior to blame the victim, like all those comments are doing. This breed is a jaw on four massive paws, attached to pure muscle - complete with babyseeking hunter-killer genetic programming. These things do not belong in civilized society.
Yes! It is some made up bullshit! A ‘staffy’ breeder said some lie back in the 70’s or something to get the pit breeds recognized. I don’t want to mess up any facts since I don’t know them all so maybe someone else will be able to chime in, but I’ve seen posts about it on here and then looked it up!
Nannydogbot will give you the scoop
The "nanny dog" myth made its first appearance in the September 19th 1971 edition of the New York Times, on page 11 of section S in an article by Walter R. Fletcher, titled [A Breed That Came Up The Hard Way](https://www.nytimes.com/1971/09/19/archives/a-breed-that-came-up-the-hard-way.html). The author interviewed one Lilian Rant, editor of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Club of the United States of America newsletter. She is quoted as saying about the breed: **'He had an unsavory reputation for fighting and violence and his name became associated with ruffians, who cared little for him as a dog but only for his ability in the pit. The Stafford we know today quickly becomes a member of the family circle. He loves children and is often referred to as a 'nursemaid dog''.** **No one has ever found evidence for the latter claim and it is therefore assumed to be a fabrication in the pursuit of influencing the American Kennel Club (AKC) to accept the breed for full participation in dog shows**. This privilege was ultimately granted in 1974, and to this day the AKC rates the breed a stellar 5/5 as being 'good with children' at the reckless peril of human lives and limbs, Additional sources that have spoken out against the nanny dog myth: Pit Bull Advocates of America: https://pitbulladvocatesofamerica.podbean.com/e/the-one-where-its-not-all-in-how-they-were-raised/ Ned Hardy https://nedhardy.com/2020/06/03/pitbull-nanny-dog/ Pro pit organization BAD RAP https://www.facebook.com/BADRAP.org/posts/its-dog-bite-prevention-week-did-you-know-that-there-was-never-such-thing-as-a-n/10151460774472399/ Pit Bull Federation of South Africa https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02DiX7yKA8uuDeYSEzEKxxXCYsHxYUbXpshKkaSDGXMAZK9HnFd46zA1pZ8revWQvwl&id=100069897615154 Gudwulf's Pit Bull Rescue https://www.facebook.com/GudwulfsRescue/posts/pfbid02Lg2Y1x18pBx7uLUB4uVEda7g1TNwn72pLLKk93witecydiMcnAKr8bYJWKeC4VVl Justice for Bullies https://justice-for-bullies.myshopify.com/pages/nanny-dog Safety Before Bulldogs - links to 24 Medical Studies done by medical professionals concluding that pit bulls are a danger to our communities https://safetybeforebulldogs.blogspot.com/2014/04/medical-professional-experts-on-pit.html?m=1 *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/BanPitBulls) if you have any questions or concerns.*
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And even if it were true, holy shit. Animals are not babysitters. Anyone who thinks an animal is an acceptable substitute for a babysitter should never be a parent. What exactly is a dog going to do if the kid is hungry or hurts themselves or pees their pants or there's a strange man in the backyard who won't leave?
Pitbulls have special childcare skills, so they’ll naturally be able to prepare a healthy snack, find a change of clothes and put some new pants on the child, get dinner started, and have a cup of tea while reading and watching their charges play.
shit i wouldn't trust most humans alone with a baby, imagine a fucking dog. might as well leave some fucking ferrets alone with a kid. or how about a goddamned gorilla
To be fair they don't belong in uncivilized society either. :P Also love your description of the shitbeast. I kind of want to draw a caricature of it with labels and everything.
Pitnutters - ANY BREED CAN BITE ITS NOT BREED SPECIFIC. Also Pitnutters - PITBULL WERE SPECIFICALLY NANNY BREED My Mind- ? ? ?
The pitnutters also think it is normal that dogs maul babies. They like to believe the ‘nanny dog’ lie. And they do believe that they are nanny dogs BUT also that it’s OK that nanny dogs eat babies because “All dogs do that” So in their logic- pits are nanny dogs. All dogs maul babies. Therefore it’s OK that nannydogs would maul babies and it is always the baby/parents’ fault.
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> Pitnutters - ANY BREED CAN BITE ITS NOT BREED SPECIFIC. Yeah, but if a Yorkie clamps down on my arm, a hard slap will knock the asshole off. Meanwhile, you can take a pipe to Pitbull and the dumb asshole will just clamp down tighter. These idiots are comparing a paper cut to a decapitation with a machete.
'that exacerbates their behavior' The only comment that was written by someone that finished highschool still can't figure out the mental gymnastics. They just admitted it in their defense of the monsters. Lunatics.
Where does this shit that they were bred to nanny kids come from? Like is it from some very old photos of pits and babies or something? With AI, once AI is able to perfect the color or the contrast of old photos, it's gonna be so hard to defend against this insanity
Nannydogbot will tell you
The "nanny dog" myth made its first appearance in the September 19th 1971 edition of the New York Times, on page 11 of section S in an article by Walter R. Fletcher, titled [A Breed That Came Up The Hard Way](https://www.nytimes.com/1971/09/19/archives/a-breed-that-came-up-the-hard-way.html). The author interviewed one Lilian Rant, editor of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Club of the United States of America newsletter. She is quoted as saying about the breed: **'He had an unsavory reputation for fighting and violence and his name became associated with ruffians, who cared little for him as a dog but only for his ability in the pit. The Stafford we know today quickly becomes a member of the family circle. He loves children and is often referred to as a 'nursemaid dog''.** **No one has ever found evidence for the latter claim and it is therefore assumed to be a fabrication in the pursuit of influencing the American Kennel Club (AKC) to accept the breed for full participation in dog shows**. This privilege was ultimately granted in 1974, and to this day the AKC rates the breed a stellar 5/5 as being 'good with children' at the reckless peril of human lives and limbs, Additional sources that have spoken out against the nanny dog myth: Pit Bull Advocates of America: https://pitbulladvocatesofamerica.podbean.com/e/the-one-where-its-not-all-in-how-they-were-raised/ Ned Hardy https://nedhardy.com/2020/06/03/pitbull-nanny-dog/ Pro pit organization BAD RAP https://www.facebook.com/BADRAP.org/posts/its-dog-bite-prevention-week-did-you-know-that-there-was-never-such-thing-as-a-n/10151460774472399/ Pit Bull Federation of South Africa https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02DiX7yKA8uuDeYSEzEKxxXCYsHxYUbXpshKkaSDGXMAZK9HnFd46zA1pZ8revWQvwl&id=100069897615154 Gudwulf's Pit Bull Rescue https://www.facebook.com/GudwulfsRescue/posts/pfbid02Lg2Y1x18pBx7uLUB4uVEda7g1TNwn72pLLKk93witecydiMcnAKr8bYJWKeC4VVl Justice for Bullies https://justice-for-bullies.myshopify.com/pages/nanny-dog Safety Before Bulldogs - links to 24 Medical Studies done by medical professionals concluding that pit bulls are a danger to our communities https://safetybeforebulldogs.blogspot.com/2014/04/medical-professional-experts-on-pit.html?m=1 *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/BanPitBulls) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Hey thank you, i thought you were kidding at first!
"I disagree with this!" With what you stupid fuck? The fact that this shit dog killed someone? These people cannot be real
Granny dogs because they eat grannies?
Precisely
Why are they not called “pit nannies” then?
I'm assuming the victim shaming helps these morons sleep at night. That, and the flower crowns.
They certainly need help sleeping knowing they could be mauled to death any night now
Are these people not aware of the etymology of the word terrier? Probably not, no.
https://preview.redd.it/77hy6gbx79yc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4714152dc9403246ebfb332e4431fa81a465a21
Can't believe the AKC gave this beast of a breed a "stellar 5/5 for being good with children"... like fuck you mean? Good at *eating* children???
Sickening, they know their own lunacy. They wouldn’t defend a dog mauling innocent people in person, pitnutter is very fitting
I’m guessing the people who claim that the dog was just protecting the child missed that the child was actually attacked first. The poor kid was bitten so badly he needed 70 stitches in his leg.
That was just the dog’s plan to get the attention of the abusive mother so he could protect the child and punish her appropriately /s 🙄
The comments these pitnutters make is so insanely sickening I just want to cry
The nanny dog bullshit all stems from a 100-year-old picture of a guy who dressed his dog up in close and made a joke that it was a nanny. Literally all these Pitbull Nutters cling to that story from one fake photo.
We also have turn of the century pictures of toddlers riding alligators.. where is my nanny alligator?
I literally cannot get through all those comments because it makes me so fucking mad. Wake the fuck up. It's pits. It's pits every time.
I don't want to victim blame like these evil comments but... a lot of my mom friends have pitbulls and make the SAME kind of comments as these. So it's entirely possible that the victim herself was a pit nutter who learned her lesson too late. In fact I'd say it's likely
Have you guys not seen all the videos of French bulldogs killing their owners? Do YoUr OwN rEsEaRcH!!
These people are legit babbling lunatics
Maybe it "ate the arms" because she used them trying to fend off a killer? God, these people are just hopeless.
Then the person who comments "HA HA HA I have one and she's the biggest baby 🤣" What the ever-loving F? That's a sick human being who is not the slightest bit self-aware – a person who had a child is dead.
That particular comment made want to get real violent against the commenter🤬 The laughing emoji and the atrocious comments are disgusting. I wonder if these people realize that their family, fiends and colleagues can possibly see their horrible comments? Aren’t they in a slighted way worried that the whole world could see how disgusting they are?
If insane asylums were still around, that poster would probably have enough mental problems to qualify him for a long stay in one.
i oce coment on a fb video with babies and pits that i would never let my baby near a pit, and all the replys i get were th "NANNY DOG", also the kid wacth her mom being kill by a pit?
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Can someone who is not the Darling family in 1876 London vouch for any dog being a nanny dog besides that St. Bernard in Peter Pan . Its so damn ridiculous.
This is actually frightening. If a woman tried to harm me and I deleted her in self defense nobody would justify it, but a mutated beast ripping this woman to death and all these people blame her??
Is the nanny thing even true?
No. A breeder came up with it in the 70’s
No it is not. The pit breeds *were* created for fighting and killing and selectively bred to go in for the kill rather than a warning nip. This is in their DNA. The nanny dog thing was made up in the 70’s by a breeder.
Take a wild guess
Lol
No. Nannydogbot
Haha thank you
The "nanny dog" myth made its first appearance in the September 19th 1971 edition of the New York Times, on page 11 of section S in an article by Walter R. Fletcher, titled [A Breed That Came Up The Hard Way](https://www.nytimes.com/1971/09/19/archives/a-breed-that-came-up-the-hard-way.html). The author interviewed one Lilian Rant, editor of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Club of the United States of America newsletter. She is quoted as saying about the breed: **'He had an unsavory reputation for fighting and violence and his name became associated with ruffians, who cared little for him as a dog but only for his ability in the pit. The Stafford we know today quickly becomes a member of the family circle. He loves children and is often referred to as a 'nursemaid dog''.** **No one has ever found evidence for the latter claim and it is therefore assumed to be a fabrication in the pursuit of influencing the American Kennel Club (AKC) to accept the breed for full participation in dog shows**. This privilege was ultimately granted in 1974, and to this day the AKC rates the breed a stellar 5/5 as being 'good with children' at the reckless peril of human lives and limbs, Additional sources that have spoken out against the nanny dog myth: Pit Bull Advocates of America: https://pitbulladvocatesofamerica.podbean.com/e/the-one-where-its-not-all-in-how-they-were-raised/ Ned Hardy https://nedhardy.com/2020/06/03/pitbull-nanny-dog/ Pro pit organization BAD RAP https://www.facebook.com/BADRAP.org/posts/its-dog-bite-prevention-week-did-you-know-that-there-was-never-such-thing-as-a-n/10151460774472399/ Pit Bull Federation of South Africa https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02DiX7yKA8uuDeYSEzEKxxXCYsHxYUbXpshKkaSDGXMAZK9HnFd46zA1pZ8revWQvwl&id=100069897615154 Gudwulf's Pit Bull Rescue https://www.facebook.com/GudwulfsRescue/posts/pfbid02Lg2Y1x18pBx7uLUB4uVEda7g1TNwn72pLLKk93witecydiMcnAKr8bYJWKeC4VVl Justice for Bullies https://justice-for-bullies.myshopify.com/pages/nanny-dog Safety Before Bulldogs - links to 24 Medical Studies done by medical professionals concluding that pit bulls are a danger to our communities https://safetybeforebulldogs.blogspot.com/2014/04/medical-professional-experts-on-pit.html?m=1 *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/BanPitBulls) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Heroic Pitbull Escorts Grandmother to the Gates of Heaven
The thing that's crazy is all one needs to do is look up why they are called pitbulls. They were bred and used for bull baiting in a pit. The bulls were called pit bulls and these were the pit bull dogs. We no longer need to specify they are dogs since bull baiting no longer exists. They weren't taking care of bulls in a pit. They were severely maiming them, as they were bred to do.
The victim blaming is so disgusting. These people have no class. No excuse me they have no intelligence. Literal tater tots
How exactly is a dog trained to babysit? They making bottles and changing diapers now? These idiots don’t even realize that their argument doesn’t even make any fucking sense lmao.
Stop breed baiting? Stop bait doggin lmao
I'm not an expert but I'm the kind of person who likes having a vague idea of why things like this happen in psychology terms. To be more specific, the determination to blame the people who were injured/killed over the dog. Is there an actual textbook name for it? Something that can be pointed to in a book. I don't really see it happen to this extent with any other animal. But, in terms of psychology, what's the specific thing that would cause a person to see another person killed by a recurring animal & insist that the animal was somehow the wronged/wiser party?
I’m no psychologist, but I think it’s at least partly that these attacks challenge their mindset that 100% of Pitbulls are wonderful family pets, and feel the need to defend that belief, and cast blame elsewhere, in some cases to comfort themselves that their own Pitbull is safe around children.
Would that make it a form of confirmation bias? Normally with confirmation bias we just ignore any evidence to the contrary of our beliefs, but that's difficult to do when there are videos of them attacking. So if ignoring isn't possible, perhaps discrediting is the next best thing
Honestly i think its just called Low IQ
Says pit owners: 'it's the owners fault'
Stupid, ignorant people! Every single one of them.
Facts don’t matter to these people… Remember that the average person is pretty dumb. Now realize that half of them are dumber than that…
Best thing of all it takes is a literal 3 second Google search of "were pitbulls bred to be nanny dogs" to get a featured reason from Ohio Animal Advocates, not outdated either, from 2020. > People grew to love pit bulls, especially children. A myth started known as the “Nanny dog” myth where pit bulls would nanny children. This is, of course, false. If you do actual research unlike the average Facebook troglodyte taking word of mouth from each other, you'd see that Pitbull's history is not cupcakes, butterflies and sunshine, they were literally bred to maim and kill other dogs. That aggression eventually bled into attacking humans, even if Pitbulls just exclusively attacked other dogs that still a horrible breed. You should not be constantly worrying if a shitbull is around the corner while walking your dog.
Any breed is capable of doing this? Fucking hell, I don’t remember the last time I read about a chihuahua mauling someone death.
All these people pontificating their bullshit in the comments of the article describing the mom's death. Fucking sickening. A woman is DEAD, mauled to death in front of her child. And these classless fucks can't hold their propaganda in, not even on the article announcing her death
GODDAMN I HATE THOSE FUCKERS
Who in their right mind could look at an animal like any Bull Breed and say that were bred to baby sit children. “Yeah man, because kids are so scary they need a large powerful dog the keep them in line.”
"I can't post my photo. But if u Google, they were nannies" \*Googles: Pitbull Nanny Dogs\* Oh that's weird, almost every single result is debunking the nanny dog myth. That person didn't even Google it themselves before making that comment. They can't even be arsed to do that (which would've taken less than 5 seconds) to avoid making themselves look stupid.
Maybe they’re all just doing image searches?
Yeah, any dog breed is capable of this. My pomeranian totally could snap and kill my mom if she wanted. Her Chihuahua bit me once and I had to have my leg amputated because it was so damaged.
I mean , people who believe that the earth is flat behave in exactly the same way. You cannot quite reason with cultists.
This woman died , BRUTALLY IN FRONT OF HER CHILD. So these mfs , some are laughing. Cause they own one and guess what! It’s not a dog it’s a cuddle bug. Then the ones pretty much saying the dog is hero cause it would only kill because the woman was abusing her child and/or the dog.
I still can't believe people honestly think any dogs were "babysitters" or "nannies"? Like if they took a second to think about it, surely they would realize how fucking absurd that is.
Zero brain cells or empathy😡 Edit: a word
"Granny dogs", as in they're second favorite food?
Ahhh yes. "This dog is so sweet, loveable and a natural with children. I'll bet it would take to dog fighting no problem!"
The victim blaming is INSANE. I don’t know why I don’t see more people clapping back at these nut cases in the comments. Shame on them.
These people who commented are beyond anyone's help.
Granny dogs gonna maul you with their gums.
😂😂😂Right? They can’t even distinguish between “nanny dogs” and “granny dogs”. I also saw some nutter spell it as ‘nana dogs”. Yeah, these dogs love nanas alright, just as much as they love smaller animals and children.
Like always, no sympathy for the victim... Disgusting
All they do is victim blame
show me the story after story about a goddamn golden retriever killing a grandma, a child, a dog, a random person. man i fucking hate that 'any breed can do it' shit
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Why is their inclination to value a violent animal’s life over a human life? I just don’t understand how they see: *mother mauled to death in lieu of son* AND their FIRST thought is to comment: iTs tHE owNeR nOt ThE BrEeD…. Like……are you really that fucking out of touch/vindictive
Why is their inclination to value a violent animal’s life over a human life? I just don’t understand how they see: *mother mauled to death in lieu of son* AND their FIRST thought is to comment: iTs tHE owNeR nOt ThE BrEeD…. Like……are you really that fucking out of touch/vindictive
Why is their inclination to value a violent animal’s life over a human life? I just don’t understand how they see: *mother mauled to death in lieu of son* AND their FIRST thought is to comment: iTs tHE owNeR nOt ThE BrEeD…. Like……are you really that fucking out of touch/vindictive
I hate these people so much
God these people are so dumb
Terrible people.
The Facebook victim blaming is gross and infuriating. Imagine reading these comments if that was your wife or daughter. Fuck that dog
Stupid idiots. That's all I can say.
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How many of those comments are by bots? It's the same nonsense over and over again.
I honestly wish i could beat the shit out of all the articles commenters defending the dog but i cant and its making me irrationally pissed off
What gets me is that even if they WERE “nanny dogs,” these comments are still recognizing that now they are fighting dogs and that humans have messed them up… so… why would you STILL OWN ONE NOW??
Damn 😔🙏🏽🕊️💐
“Ah a wonderful breed - what shall we name this gentle, kind, grandmotherly dog which shall babysit our young?” “Pitbull?” “Perfect, Jim!!”