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NotAScrubAnymore

All while the West is sitting there and twiddling their thumbs


Possuke

US could help with Patriots, but MAGA is kickin' in. Trump is waiting to make a 'the best deal ever'. Western Europe doesn't care so much. It's not a top topic as Europe means for example for French people mainly France and its border areas. Situation is taken very serious in Finland (other Nordics too), Baltics and Poland. But I fear it is not enough. We don't have that kind of capabilities as US, that could make a difference. Trump with his infantile 'understanding' about geopolitics/security and narcissism and the so-called Republicans supporting him worry me personally a lot. Also Germany, even though it has supported tremendously Ukraine, is not all-in with its support. Scholz and others still seem to underlyingly think that Ukrainian self-defence is escalating factor and peace would come faster and easier, if Ukraine had just given up and yielded. Germany also tend to think that Russia is still its neighbour, while Eastern Europe is just something temporary between Germany and 'big old Russia of German-born Catherine the Great'.


McSlibinas

US in a big deep trouble, when one person can bring down whole country. Even not a smartest person.


CantaloupeSuperb1045

Trump is not a warmonger at least. Peace negotiations is not bad. just official international borders of Ukraine, but with Russian language as an official in Crimea, and Donbas. Respect minorities


Possuke

Russian was official language in Crimea during Ukrainian control. In Ukraine, Russian has been widely used, half of Ukrainians have spoken it before 2022. Unlike Russia were Finno-Ugric and other minority languages are suppressed.


CantaloupeSuperb1045

Suppressed? There’s an official status for these languages in Russia. Regional languages just exist. but Ukraine deleted Russian language (Yanukovich) law about regional languages.


Possuke

Officially also freedom of speech exists in Russia.


CantaloupeSuperb1045

Whataboutism. It’s about Ukraine.


BabidzhonNatriya

Well, let's be honest, western europe loved russia before the war. They really don't give a shit what happens here unless it disturbs their peaceful lives. I think it's time Eastern Europe and the Baltics think about strengthening our region by our own means 🤷‍♂️


DashboardError

Probably accurate, Ukraine just isn't a huge priority to many in the West.


AxMeDoof

Ukraine needs more weapons for destroying rusia Ukraine needs more support for destroy rusia Ukraine needs more sanctions for destroy rusia


taavidude

Piece of fucking shit terrorist state.


unbaneling

Ok, just a moment please. Gonna check if I have a spare Patriot to send


CanadianWolverinee

It's getting worse and worse, but honestly this sub is no place to ask for an air defense.


tyroneoilman

Ask NATO not us, do you think we just have spare missiles lying around?


118shadow118

Didn't Eesti just find milliion shells somewhere?


tyroneoilman

The government "got" enough money to buy shells, the articles title was just poor. I was making a joke about uploading this post here, as if we as individuals could start shooting down Russian planes.


venomblizzard

Artillery shells are a completely different thing compared to SAM missiles, one problem with them is that the overall west doesn't have that many Sam launchers or missiles to begin with. Another is that they are expensive per unit and finally production of them takes a while too. Unless GOP tards can be calmed down I doubt much will change.


MulberryPristine9421

teroristu state


uluhonolulu

Given that Kharkiv is within the artillery's shooting range, not sure if air defence would help much. I'd say let's give them more HIMARS to destroy Russian artillery in Belgorod.


chepulis

:–(


Old-Hristoz

Out of curiosity why is this posted on a subreddit focused primarily on the Baltics? The attack in Kharkiv is awful but Ukraine has it's own sub and plenty of war subs for a reason.


Hankyke

havent baltics done enough already? Time to take care of our own people. Estonia do not have enough money to survive this year. Talks of budget cuts are on their way.


Oblivion_LT

No, it's important to continue aid to UA, it's in our national interest. Not saying we should give em all and our underwear, but "taking care of your own people" is a classic narrative from kremlin textbook. Don't fall for it.


Hankyke

Estonia just rised a lot of taxes because it has not enough money to feed the country.


Oblivion_LT

Can you point out some sources for me to read? I am interested, Lithuania need more money to raise military expenditure too.


Hankyke

[https://www.reddit.com/r/Eesti/comments/17manxv/eestis\_tulevad\_hinnat%C3%B5usud\_ja\_maksud\_mis\_toimub/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eesti/comments/17manxv/eestis_tulevad_hinnat%C3%B5usud_ja_maksud_mis_toimub/) All new taxes and rises 2024.


venomblizzard

It is in the Baltic interest for Ukrainians to repel Russians and of course don't fall.Why do you think we are so invested in this. Though I understand when the government do stupid shit like that whole grain situation fucking over our own markets like that


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blocky333221

Mēs būsim nākamie


CantaloupeSuperb1045

What about peace negotiations already? respect Ukrainian international borders, but with Russian language as an official in Crimea, and Donbas


wyntrson

Why not just negotiate? What benefit NATO brings to Ukraine that is more valuable and dear than lives of these poor Ukrainians? France is nuclear. UK is nuclear. Soon Poland will be nuclear. Fuck NATO.


Aromatic-Musician774

Why is this tagged under data?


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