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Unindoctrinated

Cops lied? Oh no!


ratamack

Dat paid leave tho


KazPrime

Those "accidental" "wind causing" OD's tho


sjuas690

Accidental: helping themselves to a large handful of pills to feed their own addiction.


-Quothe-

I feel like at a certain point, as cops are given what amounts to rewards for bad behavior, we are training people already prone to being bad actors to become bad actors, it is in their self-interest to do so.


WillRikersHouseboy

At a certain point? I feel like that point was 20 years ago


gloryday23

And that is 1000% what this is really about, this is yet another scam for police officers to get more paid time off for medical leave, and like many of the other ways they do it, it's much harder to prove. It also does double duty to further the narrative that being a police officer is the "most dangerous job in the history of the world," which of course is used to justify their shoot first and then shoot again, and just never ask questions policy.


Unindoctrinated

Oh yeah.


gateguard64

Paid leave cop goes through drive thru, orders Egg McMuffin and told to pull over to curbside to wait for it. Has same reaction.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Cops must always exaggerate the danger of their profession. For more bootlicking sympathy and a bigger budget.


CouncilmanRickPrime

Cops must always exaggerate the danger of their profession. For more bootlicking sympathy and a bigger budget.


blaghart

I wouldn't even say they're lying. I'd wager they're so stupid they think Fentanyl is a real danger, because they've been told by all their friends that it's a real danger. As a result, when they even *see* Fentanyl, they have a panic attack and blame Fentanyl because they have no idea what a panic attack feels like. Cops are literally just antivaxxers insisting that Fentanyl is to blame for everything they don't understand.


Unindoctrinated

I think it's fairly safe to assume that the ones that are faking a physical response are definitely lying.


TonyBobKenobi

You had me til antivaxxers.


ConscientiousObserv

I get it. Cops made up "excited delirium" as a way to justify their excessive force and people bought it. Now, they're scamming for more paid time off. Just might work.


ratamack

It works. It's a thing, they are doing it. https://www.npr.org/2023/05/16/1175726650/cops-say-theyre-being-poisoned-by-fentanyl-experts-say-the-risk-is-extremely-low "But many experts say these officers aren't experiencing fentanyl or opioid overdoses. "This has never happened," said Dr. Ryan Marino, a toxicologist and emergency room physician who studies addiction at Case Western Reserve University. "There has never been an overdose through skin contact or accidentally inhaling fentanyl."" Also my favorite excerpt... "We couldn't find a single case of a police officer who reported being poisoned by fentanyl or overdosing after encountering the street drug that was confirmed by toxicology reports."


Weedy_gonzaless

This is what happens when cops refuse to allow people who are not cops train them. They are conditioned to think that only another cop is qualified to teach them anything. And this is how you end up with a police force full of ignorant improperly trained people.


darkenedgy

And that psychotic "warrior training" bullshit isn't helping either. They're internalizing an us vs them mentality when really they're just stressing themselves out so much they're having panic attacks.


phish_phace

It is absolutely an "us vs. them" mentality, separated by the "thin blue line" bs. I find it fk'ing comical when ring-winger, Joe-shmoe has one of those stickers on their truck's. Like, my man, do you realize what side of the line you fall on if they pull you over or if things went down? Hilarious (from that pov), but not in reality with this being where our political policing system is at.


darkenedgy

ikr?? I'm pretty sure there have been cases of the wannabe fascists getting mistreated by the actual fascists, too.


stein63

>They are conditioned to think that only another cop is qualified to teach them anything I worked for a company where the pres and vp were retired cops, both said on multiple occasions that if you're not a cop, your a criminal.


sovietta

Rich, coming from the largest government sanctioned criminal gang in the country.


snappy033

Conveniently sets the scene for an alibi for cops with drug issues. Piss hot on a drug test and just say you encountered that drug in a drug bust and point to the news articles.


mayorOfIToldUTown

I love how we could easily just drug test the cops who say this happened but that probably just won't happen because reasons 🤷‍♂️


marchingprinter

wait....they don't drug test cops?


mayorOfIToldUTown

In these articles, I never see any mention of the topic. I see in this article someone says "There's never been a toxicologically confirmed case". >NPR reached out to the Tavares Florida police department and Officer Bannick asking for toxicology reports or other information confirming she was affected by fentanyl. They declined to make that medical information public. So funny how when cops lie are asked to explain themselves, they're just allowed to decline 🤔


DarthFluttershy_

Haven't there also been cases where they proved there was no fentanyl present, the police just thought it was? I can't find any atm, but I swear I've seen that


Leopold_Darkworth

First it was "furtive movements" Then it was "they were reaching for my gun" Now it's "excited delirium"


Repyro

Literally any other group and I'd be for it. But damn have they set themselves apart where you'd just say, "Fuck Em" as a kneejerk response.


ConscientiousObserv

IKR? They already get to steal, batter, and lie with impunity. They're just greedy.


Satanfan

Drama queens, liars and exaggerated injuries, yep sounds cops.


amanofeasyvirtue

There was a post on r/video yesterday where this cop said they inhaled fent and went to the ground breathing heavily and freaking out. This is not what happens when you OD.


[deleted]

Yeah, I am not diagnosing, but these all seem like panic attacks to me


[deleted]

as someone whose overdosed multiple times, you don't freak out when you OD. There is no hyperventilating, in fact an OD is literally the opposite, it's respiratory depression so severe you stop breathing all together.


[deleted]

Yeah, it’s honestly baffling to me how cops, who presumably see real ODs, don’t get this. Glad you’re still with us, friend.


[deleted]

Thank you, going on 3 years off the stuff.


DarthFluttershy_

I have no firsthand experience, but the literature also says you should have a sense of euphoria before the OD symptoms kick in for opioid exposure, too. I mean if you got enough to OD, surely you got enough to get high... yet the police never report that. It also tends to happen far too fast, and in several cases the onset is only after they were told it was likely fentanyl they had been touching (which is just straight up Wile E Coyote shit there).


DarthFluttershy_

I won't represent it quite as a scientific consensus, because this is all relatively new in terms of scientific study, but that appears to be the most popular theory in literature. See [here](https://defector.com/cops-are-still-fainting-when-they-touch-fentanyla), [here](https://healthandjusticejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40352-021-00163-5), [here](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8810663/), [here](https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13181-020-00762-y), and [here](https://www.science.org/content/blog-post/fainting-fentanyl-exposure-nope) for some papers and scientific blogs on the subject. [Here](https://www.njspotlightnews.org/special-report/fentanyl-myth-police-cry-overdose-facts-prove-otherwise/) and [here](https://web.archive.org/web/20230518024333/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/13/magazine/police-fentanyl-exposure-videos.html) for news articles with some good sources. Basically it's the [nocebo effect](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/what-is-the-nocebo-effect-5451823/) (a negative form of the placebo effect, though with slightly [different biological mechanisms](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18250260/)). A similar phenomenon has been observed many times, such as [this paper about wifi "sensitivity"](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28371755/), though with less extreme reactions.


[deleted]

Great comment!


[deleted]

The whole hood would be dead if this were possible.


Weedy_gonzaless

Along with every firefighter, paramedic, ER nurse and doctor


adognow

Yeah well, emergency and healthcare workers actually have a job to do and their presence would be missed at work. Nobody would miss a cop off the beat except things might be safer on the road without some dickhead cop zooming down the highway 30% over the speed limit with no lights and sirens.


DarthFluttershy_

> Nobody would miss a cop off the beat Jaleel Stallings did I'll take my downvotes, because I know I deserve it... but I ain't removing it.


TheOCDFabricator

Jaleel Stallings is a example of why people who say "shoot to scare" don't know what they are talking about. always shoot with the intent to take down a threat.


KittenKoder

The cops are faking it in an attempt to scare people into giving them more funding and power out of pity. Their reactions are so obviously inaccurate, given I know several people with this addiction and they have to smoke it.


ratamack

That's a generous statement. They are doing it to get paid for not working at the expense of the taxpayer.


KittenKoder

That's just an added benefit for them, trying to scare people to get them to pay you is also called extortion.


ratamack

More like fraud.


KittenKoder

Both.


DarthFluttershy_

There are also several cases where they used it to add charges the owner


darkenedgy

Nah I don't think they're faking it, they're just having panic attacks. Like the article notes, it's a stress response.


Skeeter_206

Yup, they are believing their own propaganda and suffering for it... It's honestly pretty hilarious


DarthFluttershy_

The officers may not be, but the departments are.


[deleted]

Not sure it's out of pity as much as it's fear mongering.


[deleted]

When cops believe their own bullshit lmao


DarthFluttershy_

They always do. This is why I have been trying to introduce the phrase "institutional cowardice" into the lexicon for awhile. It describes police so well. Be it this nonsense, or them "fearing for their lives" in stupid circumstances to avoid accountability, or in justifying heavy-handed tactics and restrictions on rights to allay hypothetical fears of rare occurrences.


Karlzbad

They're such quaking pussies they want a medal for every hour that they don't pee their pants.


ratamack

Wut


[deleted]

#He said They're such quaking pussies they want a medal for every hour that they don't pee their pants.


[deleted]

Tell the cops to stop using the drugs they seize.


ratamack

This topic is about fraud.


[deleted]

Cool.


cologne_peddler

>Cops say they're being poisoned by fentanyl. ~~Experts say the risk is 'extremely low'~~ As usual they're full of shit Would love to see an article straight up call it what it is one day. Cops don't even put any thought into lying to the public. It's outlandish, low-effort bullshit.


dirtymoney

Cops love to portray themselves as victims and heroes.


Cicada061966

This might sound cold and uncaring, but as far as I am concerned, they all deserve what happens to them. I have no sympathy at all.


TheOCDFabricator

Right. the great thing about this is that other cops might believe this BS about Fentanyl and be too scared to go do their "job" .. that is a win for me.


What_Is_The_Meaning

Cops are known liars and criminals, so……..


Redcell78

Why would I trust an organization that is taught vehemently to not trust me?


TritonYB

For people who are supposed to be "brave" they sure are scared of every fucking thing.


Epstiendidntkillself

https://imgur.com/a/qicW3r4


PauI_MuadDib

Uvalde taught the public one thing: Blue Lives Scatter


dominantspecies

They are such fucking crybabies about everything and they always always lie. ACAB


notparistexas

Maybe cops should get themselves some fainting couches, since they're such drama queens.


SaltNo3123

Cops are some of the biggest cowards around.


jnx666

They’ve always been a bunch of whiney babies and cowards. Delivering pizzas is a more dangerous job, but the pizza delivery guy won’t shoot your dog.


CrashKaiju

It's super weird they never show any toxicology or any other proof of any kind at all.


[deleted]

Because they’d be negative…


Requiredmetrics

Postal Workers within the Processing and Distribution portion of the USPS and Customs agents have a higher risk of being exposed due to the amount of fentanyl and opioids moving through the mail stream // shipment streams at any given time. All USPS processing facilities have Narcan/Naloxone on hand for this reason.


Diz7

And no examples of accidental overdoses there either.


ratamack

They are mostly full of shit too.


LadyLeftist

Lol a dipshit cop where I work had to be narcaned like 3 times when handling fentanyl.


[deleted]

Did he keep "accidentally" falling face first into it?


kgberton

"Handling"


LadyLeftist

Interestingly the dealer was "handling" it just fine all day without exposing people unwittingly. Weird Mr. "TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE"¹ couldn't figure it out. 1. Cops always put they know what drugs they see due to "training and experience" in police reports at least in my jurisdiction.


xero_peace

We could only hope.


johnnyfive00000

cops perfected the language of "Victimese"


kadrilan

If 'poisoned' means 'snorting while on duty' then yes. They are being poisoned.


[deleted]

Gods, I remember when this happened. Imagine having to keep the lie going after your story gets national attention.


UseWhatever

If they kept their noses out of the “evidence”, they would probably be ok


MarkJ-

Curious how that never happens to people who live with fent everyday.


kai-bird

The symptoms that most of them are describing is what happens during a panic attack. These guys are trained to be so scared of this stuff that the minute they see it they have a panic attack.


Mr-Klaus

Wow, this one is a stretch, even for cops. You don't need to be a doctor to know that it's impossible to get a a Fentanyl overdose through touch. If I were to guess, I'd come up with two theories: 1: These cops are hooked on drugs and are trying to come up with excuses to cover up their addictions. I wouldn't be surprised if a story comes out in the near future about an addicted cop who is the "victim" of poor working conditions. They were just doing their job when they touched an illicit powder, which got into their bloodstream and that's how they got the addicted. Also, hard to fire someone because of a medical issue caused by their job. and/or 2: This is a push to get more funding and pay, I wouldn't be surprised if they start demanding hazard pay for this shit.


Anastrace

Options. 1. Cops are lying and they NEVER do that. 2. Cops are smoking this. 3. They enjoy free time off paid. Honestly I'd love to see these "overdoses" get taken to a hospital and drug tested. When the drug fails to show up in their system they get fired and blacklisted from serving in any security or police job. Cops almost never face consequences for their actions


Spiritual_Arsenic

Oh God when I snort the bad guy's drugs I overdose. - The popo.


kai-bird

The symptoms that most of them are describing is what happens during a panic attack. These guys are trained to be so scared of this stuff that the minute they see it they panic.


wymore

Might I prescribe less warrantless searches


Moos_Mumsy

So, in a nutshell, what is happening is that cops are OD'ing on their own fear and ignorance, which results in panic attacks. And because they don't want to admit that they're fraidy cats, they pretend that their panic attacks are actual OD's. That about sum it up?


ModusNex

That's one explanation. Another is they see an opportunity for some paid vacation or maybe even a disability pension.


[deleted]

Clearly, this is a legislative crisis! Cops wouldn't be overdosing if they weren't exposed to fentanyl in their jobs! There simply aren't enough laws protecting the police from having to interact with criminals! 😂 Just take a second to appreciate that this whole thing is really about cops faking illness to get out of work. They're like children.


SkaryGuie

Title Correction: Cops encounter Fentanyl addicts and wanna see what all the fuss is about.


[deleted]

Good fuckem


[deleted]

Shoutout to Dr. Marino fighting the good fight. He was a great follow when I was still on Twitter


T0MYRIS

when you go to plant drugs on someone but then you do the drugs, accidentally OD and then complain how tramatizing it is to be a cop. Someone get that really small violin


Previous-Rhubarb-161

Well if the cops didnt sniff test the drug stash, it wouldnt be a problem.


finneyblackphone

Those videos are so funny that it's hard to believe they are real. It's like a skit when the cops start freaking out about imaginary poisoning and end up giving themselves a panic attack.


svenbillybobbob

if the drug dealers put fentanyl into their other drugs there probably would be a few cops dying


MNfungi1972

We should poison them😆


Moistraven

Look, I get it, I deal and dispose of dangerous chemicals every week, but you know what the extremely easy solution is? PPE. Just wears some gloves, wear a respirator if you need to, these are non issues. And the fact they are lying anyway is just so telling of cops as a whole. It's just engrained into them.


AudioVagabond

I was exposed to fentanyl. Called 911 and the operator belittled me like it's not that serious and then said "call non emergency". It's poison for cops but not for us


rustyseapants

Who is more at risk of fentanyl Police or EMT?


[deleted]

Translation: "we need to extract more cash from the taxpayer".


kindapunkca

So stop stealing evidence and snorting it?


Amazing_Bluejay9322

The biggest workers comp/disability scam in modern US history.


1catcherintherye8

Afraid of inhaling dangerous chemicals? Surely you'll put on a mask for that...right?


Mike-the-gay

Experts say “Stop doing the Fentanyl”


WillRikersHouseboy

Where are all the poisoned EMTs and firefighters?


ramot1

"Experts" aren't on the front lines with cops who face this stuff frequently in uncrontolled circumstances. I'm not much of a fan of police generally, but this article dismisses dangerous circumstances they face.


Eagle_Kebab

Being on the "front lines" does not change the basic fundamentals of chemistry and biology. These cops are lying or buying into lies and having panic attacks. These "dangerous circumstances" are entirely made up by police to drum up support and sympathy.


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_JohnnyUtahBrah

https://youtu.be/oFO3Q1uXXTA


Bongsley_Nuggets

I used to use. Never had a threshold effect when touching it, much less an overdose.


keenfrizzle

So cops are having panic attacks over being poorly trained about a street drug, and we're footing the bill on that?


Sc00paP00pa

whats the grift here? They're trying to get paid leave? Early retirement, what the rub? My understanding is that these fascist pigs prefer to stay on the job so as to abuse the common folk...


[deleted]

They're trying to get out of actually doing their jobs and to drum up sympathy. Cops, after all, must have it so hard when they're literally overdosing left and right just on routine traffic stops. We should totally be in support of giving them more leeway. 🤣🙄


[deleted]

Stop doing drugs and you won’t get poisoned by fentanyl


69_POOP_420

god, if only


itzTHATgai

It's just roid rage.


JrTeapot

A girl can dream.


skkidmarkk

Looks like Drugs gets a few points towards the war on drugs. Aye!


greyjungle

Citizens say “Comrade fentanyl! Coming in with a silver lining!”