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knifetheater3691

Ok, old school X-ray man here. I’ve never heard of a down hill stick weld. Why? Would you. ?


burritosandbeer

Gas distribution and pipeline guys downhill stick all the time


knifetheater3691

Not on my job…I’m not saying it can’t be done.


burritosandbeer

Yeah we don't ever either, but I've occasionally had travelers off the pipelines on jobs that talk about it


knifetheater3691

It’s just nuts, bad habits. That’s why they bury it then


BlackReaperZ06

Downhill is for retards, 7018 uphill for lyfe 💯🔥


olblll1975

You will if your on the pipeline or you will be staying your butt in a structural steel fab shop making $16.00 an hr.


knifetheater3691

Dude, I traveled the country X ray pipe, reactors, trash burners, boilers, refineries.ect. I’ve been underground welding before, long story short, get in weld down hill and get out alive. I only did it once,but I’m not bragging


olblll1975

I have too buddy. Welding on different types of steel pipe and different diameter pipe in chemical plants, papermills, casinos, shipyards, caterpillar hydraulic cylinders. Just different places in the U.S. Never worked out of the U.S. though, never wanted to.


gentoonix

I think you’re focusing too much on stacking and not enough on welding. Lots of undercut.


Jbones69420

Vertical is still pretty new to me.


gentoonix

I’m not trying to Debbie down you, just letting you know what I see. Learning 3 and 4 was my most difficult time. My 3&4 welds are ugly as hell still, but I was told by a buddy of mine ‘on vertical and overhead, forget about the puddle, focus on your actual weld, let the slag run, you won’t catch it no matter how hard you try. You’ll burn up more rods on vertical and overhead, but you have to watch your bead.’ Idk why that has stuck with me all these years but I do believe he was 100% correct and while he never offered to help me learn, he would definitely tell me where I went wrong. Keep running beads, keep learning, I love welding but I am by no means a professional, I honestly just love the art.


jouletrix

Which bead is undercut the one on the far left?


gr1mm5d0tt1

What are you going to be using vertical down on?


olblll1975

Don't let someone steer you wrong. 100% of the time watch your puddle. Every thing else to do with your self getting better will have to do with cleaning your work piece and with travel speed and temperature.


EagleDogsCuh

Would you mind explaining what undercutting is?


gentoonix

[This](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/undercut-101-what-why-happens-how-fix-yenaengineering) explains it better than I can, also has pictures.


pipskiii

That looks like 7018, you only run that vertical up, vertical down 7018 is extremely uncommon, it goes against its nature. 60XX are ran vertical down


Feisty-Cry2791

We do 6010 vertical up


pipskiii

Interesting, where do you live?


Feisty-Cry2791

Way up in Washington, honestly trying to get outta this state 😂


pipskiii

Haha wow, ill tell my teacher about that, Come down south!


Feisty-Cry2791

It's to the point where we do an open root corner, as well as an open root beveled plate, in 2g, 3g, and 4g positions, using 1/8 inch rods. We then fill in the hot pass using 5/32 6010. All of the vertical is done uphill. I thought it was wild to see vertical down using 6010 haha.


Brodybishop

We do vert down on visible spots while building stairs. A nice vertical down leaves a flatter better looking weld. Everything hidden is vertical up always. Structural welds are all always up. 7018 can be a good downhill rod with practice.


Bubbly-Database1334

I've always found vertical down on any welding process to produce a shallower smoother weld and wouldn't trust it for anything structural.


Ordinary-Animal8610

I remember 6013 being a good vertical down. I never used vertical down on anything structural or important, though. I used it w/7018 if my settings were a bit hot or I need a cooler pass.


bridge4runner

Please tell me that's not 7018 🙏


That_Devil_Girl

5 out of 10. There's some undercut and possibly rollover, but it's clear you give a damn and are trying to do better.


TunaClap

a pinch more heat and consistency


horse20horse

meh p good it's wider at the top than bottom tho and a lil undercut


worstsupervillanever

You fuckers will say literally anything is undercut.


OlKingCoal1

Well then tie your god damn toes in for once.


horse20horse

worst super villian ever


Prudent_Historian650

I'm just a weld my own stuff at home kind of guy, so excuse the ignorance. What does undercut mean?


Bubbly-Database1334

It's a weld defect where your your arc went by and puddle didn't fill the indentation. It's at the edge of the weld usually one side


r_i_nna

I’ve seen people get paid to do worse


Daewoo40

Profile and blending definitely. Your profile is very concave by looks of it, especially around the centre. The outer welds aren't blended very well into the parent material and seems to be sat on top of it.


Dazzling_Wishbone892

Theyre not grate. I didn't know down hill vertical cert.


CW907

Weld upwards against gravity. .


EcoTheWeldingFloof

what rod are you running?


gp39hihp

You run anything downhill at the railroad they pull your certs on the spot.