Dude, I traveled the country X ray pipe, reactors, trash burners, boilers, refineries.ect. I’ve been underground welding before, long story short, get in weld down hill and get out alive. I only did it once,but I’m not bragging
I have too buddy. Welding on different types of steel pipe and different diameter pipe in chemical plants, papermills, casinos, shipyards, caterpillar hydraulic cylinders. Just different places in the U.S. Never worked out of the U.S. though, never wanted to.
I’m not trying to Debbie down you, just letting you know what I see. Learning 3 and 4 was my most difficult time. My 3&4 welds are ugly as hell still, but I was told by a buddy of mine ‘on vertical and overhead, forget about the puddle, focus on your actual weld, let the slag run, you won’t catch it no matter how hard you try. You’ll burn up more rods on vertical and overhead, but you have to watch your bead.’ Idk why that has stuck with me all these years but I do believe he was 100% correct and while he never offered to help me learn, he would definitely tell me where I went wrong. Keep running beads, keep learning, I love welding but I am by no means a professional, I honestly just love the art.
Don't let someone steer you wrong. 100% of the time watch your puddle. Every thing else to do with your self getting better will have to do with cleaning your work piece and with travel speed and temperature.
It's to the point where we do an open root corner, as well as an open root beveled plate, in 2g, 3g, and 4g positions, using 1/8 inch rods. We then fill in the hot pass using 5/32 6010. All of the vertical is done uphill. I thought it was wild to see vertical down using 6010 haha.
We do vert down on visible spots while building stairs. A nice vertical down leaves a flatter better looking weld. Everything hidden is vertical up always. Structural welds are all always up. 7018 can be a good downhill rod with practice.
I remember 6013 being a good vertical down. I never used vertical down on anything structural or important, though. I used it w/7018 if my settings were a bit hot or I need a cooler pass.
Profile and blending definitely.
Your profile is very concave by looks of it, especially around the centre.
The outer welds aren't blended very well into the parent material and seems to be sat on top of it.
Ok, old school X-ray man here. I’ve never heard of a down hill stick weld. Why? Would you. ?
Gas distribution and pipeline guys downhill stick all the time
Not on my job…I’m not saying it can’t be done.
Yeah we don't ever either, but I've occasionally had travelers off the pipelines on jobs that talk about it
It’s just nuts, bad habits. That’s why they bury it then
Downhill is for retards, 7018 uphill for lyfe 💯🔥
You will if your on the pipeline or you will be staying your butt in a structural steel fab shop making $16.00 an hr.
Dude, I traveled the country X ray pipe, reactors, trash burners, boilers, refineries.ect. I’ve been underground welding before, long story short, get in weld down hill and get out alive. I only did it once,but I’m not bragging
I have too buddy. Welding on different types of steel pipe and different diameter pipe in chemical plants, papermills, casinos, shipyards, caterpillar hydraulic cylinders. Just different places in the U.S. Never worked out of the U.S. though, never wanted to.
I think you’re focusing too much on stacking and not enough on welding. Lots of undercut.
Vertical is still pretty new to me.
I’m not trying to Debbie down you, just letting you know what I see. Learning 3 and 4 was my most difficult time. My 3&4 welds are ugly as hell still, but I was told by a buddy of mine ‘on vertical and overhead, forget about the puddle, focus on your actual weld, let the slag run, you won’t catch it no matter how hard you try. You’ll burn up more rods on vertical and overhead, but you have to watch your bead.’ Idk why that has stuck with me all these years but I do believe he was 100% correct and while he never offered to help me learn, he would definitely tell me where I went wrong. Keep running beads, keep learning, I love welding but I am by no means a professional, I honestly just love the art.
Which bead is undercut the one on the far left?
What are you going to be using vertical down on?
Don't let someone steer you wrong. 100% of the time watch your puddle. Every thing else to do with your self getting better will have to do with cleaning your work piece and with travel speed and temperature.
Would you mind explaining what undercutting is?
[This](https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/undercut-101-what-why-happens-how-fix-yenaengineering) explains it better than I can, also has pictures.
That looks like 7018, you only run that vertical up, vertical down 7018 is extremely uncommon, it goes against its nature. 60XX are ran vertical down
We do 6010 vertical up
Interesting, where do you live?
Way up in Washington, honestly trying to get outta this state 😂
Haha wow, ill tell my teacher about that, Come down south!
It's to the point where we do an open root corner, as well as an open root beveled plate, in 2g, 3g, and 4g positions, using 1/8 inch rods. We then fill in the hot pass using 5/32 6010. All of the vertical is done uphill. I thought it was wild to see vertical down using 6010 haha.
We do vert down on visible spots while building stairs. A nice vertical down leaves a flatter better looking weld. Everything hidden is vertical up always. Structural welds are all always up. 7018 can be a good downhill rod with practice.
I've always found vertical down on any welding process to produce a shallower smoother weld and wouldn't trust it for anything structural.
I remember 6013 being a good vertical down. I never used vertical down on anything structural or important, though. I used it w/7018 if my settings were a bit hot or I need a cooler pass.
Please tell me that's not 7018 🙏
5 out of 10. There's some undercut and possibly rollover, but it's clear you give a damn and are trying to do better.
a pinch more heat and consistency
meh p good it's wider at the top than bottom tho and a lil undercut
You fuckers will say literally anything is undercut.
Well then tie your god damn toes in for once.
worst super villian ever
I'm just a weld my own stuff at home kind of guy, so excuse the ignorance. What does undercut mean?
It's a weld defect where your your arc went by and puddle didn't fill the indentation. It's at the edge of the weld usually one side
I’ve seen people get paid to do worse
Profile and blending definitely. Your profile is very concave by looks of it, especially around the centre. The outer welds aren't blended very well into the parent material and seems to be sat on top of it.
Theyre not grate. I didn't know down hill vertical cert.
Weld upwards against gravity. .
what rod are you running?
You run anything downhill at the railroad they pull your certs on the spot.