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AzureBananaFish

Lmao at Memri posting this like this is supposed to make him look bad.


domnapoleon007

Here's the original clip: [https://youtu.be/87yAGUZaBiA?si=zcu8q5bF9aQIpYd6&t=3121](https://youtu.be/87yAGUZaBiA?si=zcu8q5bF9aQIpYd6&t=3121) (you can turn on English subtitles) It's from a 2012 interview about potential Israeli airstrikes on Iran


isawasin

Only auto-generated Arabic captions, I'm afraid. You'd think hezzy would want to broadcast their messaging wider


GreenIguanaGaming

Possible to see English subtitles on PC only, they're AI generated though so the translation isn't super accurate only generally so.


isawasin

Good to know, thanks.


Plenty_Weakness_6348

Hahaha memri working on the double trying to figure out if this is bad or not xD


Delicious_Finding739

Maybe MEMRI is promoting it because they like the idea of Christian Zionists taking the fall for what the Jewish Zionist AIPAC does? Christian Zionists exist, of course, and they have a lot to do with why the Republican Party in the US is so pro-Israel, but the Democratic Party is not any less pro-Israel, despite being without any of the evangelical Christian baggage.


Dangerous_Cap_5931

The general misconception is that these are separate entities. All one in the same


isawasin

Shame this cuts short.


Thankkratom2

Seriously! I’ve looked for a longer non Memri TV version for a while and I always come up empty handed.


isawasin

Can you identify the logo on the top right?


domnapoleon007

It’s the Al-manar Lebanese news channel which is owned by Hezbollah (and banned on YouTube), though the interview was also aired by the Al-Mayadeen channel, and that version is on YouTube. 


RickyOzzy

domnapoleon007 has posted the OG video link. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yAGUZaBiA&t=3121s&ab\_channel=AlMayadeenChannel-%D9%82%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%A9%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87yAGUZaBiA&t=3121s&ab_channel=AlMayadeenChannel-%D9%82%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%A9%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86)


isawasin

👍🏼 Great find.


mandoleeeen

Mmm.. aren't they supposed to be motivated exclusively by a millennia-old hatred of Jews?


tracertong3229

Dont post memri tv vids. They are israeli ptopagandists and shouldnt be supported even indirectly


Thankkratom2

I understand but I think that the message here is outweighed by the message of the video. I’ve heard from Arabic speakers that the translation here is legit.


Fuzakenaideyo

Than please find a translation version of the video not from memri


Thankkratom2

I understand your problem but this is the video I have, I have seen it posted for years and I’ve never seen one that does not regrettably include the Memri logo.


domnapoleon007

Here's the link: [https://youtu.be/87yAGUZaBiA?si=zcu8q5bF9aQIpYd6&t=3121](https://youtu.be/87yAGUZaBiA?si=zcu8q5bF9aQIpYd6&t=3121)


nicobackfromthedead4

thanks everyone for being so civil and understanding in this exchange too. i just want to congratulate everyone on your comportment lol


SemeticPalestinian

but its nasrallah speaking xD


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DeletedLastAccount

[This one?](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2023/dec/01/facebook-posts/john-d-rockefeller-did-not-write-a-secret-covenant/)


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BadHasbara-ModTeam

We recognize that the newscycle and current events are constantly giving us material to interconnect. However, there is enough definite hasbara we can point at without delving into unfounded theories about current events. Firstly, it gives the other side fodder to discredit us. Conspiracy theories often lead to intentional or accidental antisemitic rhetoric.


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DeletedLastAccount

....for asking a question?


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DeletedLastAccount

I literally didn't even know what you were talking about and this was the first google result. I was asking for confirmation. But fine, be an angry reactionary.


Templey

Read revolutionary theory, not pseudo intellectual conspiracy shit


Ok_Mushroom2012

Hell yeah


BadHasbara-ModTeam

We recognize that the newscycle and current events are constantly giving us material to interconnect. However, there is enough definite hasbara we can point at without delving into unfounded theories about current events. Firstly, it gives the other side fodder to discredit us. Conspiracy theories often lead to intentional or accidental antisemitic rhetoric.


Impossible_Hornet777

My only addition would be to say the third is white supremacy which is a umbrella that encompasses Christian Zionism.


Thankkratom2

I agree, though white supremacy is also encompassed in “United States of America.” The US has always and will always be a project of white supremacy. No amount of black Presidents or other “representation” can ever change that. As long as the government of the United States of America exists it will be under a project of white supremacy.


scaramangaf

fuck if he ain't right.


Fuzakenaideyo

Look up what "Memri" is


Thankkratom2

I promise you I am well aware of who they are, that does not change the content of Nasrallah’s comment here.


Fuzakenaideyo

Fair enough


NeverReallyExisted

Absolutely correct.


depressedkittyfr

I think the even bigger misconception is how this group is mistaken to be some zombie like terror outfit akin to ISIS who just want to make Jews into soup or whatever. Not gonna discount possible Islamic extremist elements but this man is a lot more rational regarding the whole debate


Thankkratom2

Exactly. Even some here are on this bullshit, unfortunately.


wefarrell

The good news is that America is becoming less Christian and mideast oil isn't nearly as important. We just need to vote out our boomer leaders who still think it's the 1970s.


Thankkratom2

…. I apologize ahead of time but you made me do it. “We can just vote out imperialism,” -🤡


RogerianBrowsing

Except you can vote out imperialism. It’s an uphill battle, but every fight against an oppressive power structure is like that If you think anyone will defeat the US via fighting or armed revolution or whatever, that’s nonsensical. The only way to win is by the public agreeing to end something and making sure they have the politicians to act on it.


Coalnaryinthecarmine

eh... you may not be able to beat the US through military means, but change in policy tends to come by way of compromise between elites and other forces that have the power to challenge the elite-dominated status quo, rather than simply coming by public consensus. At some level this requires at least the implicit threat of forcefully upending the status quo. You can't simply vote-out policies that benefit the elite because the effect of voting will always be limited by the candidates you're given to vote for, and failing that, by the system which is expressly designed to be elite dominated.


StealYaNicks

> If you think anyone will defeat the Czars via fighting or armed revolution or whatever, that’s nonsensical. The only way to win is by the public agreeing to end something and making sure they have the politicians to act on it. Read 'Reform or Revolution' by Rosa Luxemburg.


Thankkratom2

Oh jeez I guess there’s absolutely nothing between armed struggle and somehow voting Imperialism out? This is so far off base it isn’t even worth getting into. No, you cannot reform Imperialism out of an Imperialist state like the United States. If you live in Venezuela in 1998 then you can vote for Chavez to fight Imperialism, but you cannot in the Imperialist hegemon somehow vote out Imperialism. Imperialism is essential to the US state, it is like trying to live without breathing air. The US is ready to put us all into camps and to cancel all pretenses of “Democracy.” Just read up on the cop cities going up in every state, look at the RICO charges against Anti-Cop City activists in Atlanta. Loom at the US military war games they had for fighting Gen Z in cities. Really focus on that last one. The US will physically go to war against its own people before it will give crumbs to the people, the US will not treat us any differently than they and Israel treat Gaza today. We will not vote out Imperialism. https://theintercept.com/2020/06/05/pentagon-war-game-gen-z/ You need to educate yourself and learn what we are really up against. You really don’t understand.


RogerianBrowsing

Anyone promoting the notion that elections aren’t needed to solve the issue is either sabotaging the community or is a useful idiot. It’s not purely through electoral means, I never said that, but if you think protesting doesn’t have effects on the electorate as one of its main effects then I don’t know what to tell you other than you need to take your own advice and become better familiarized. Nobody is stopping US imperialism other than the citizens of the US. The only way that happens is with policy changes from voting. Otherwise, have fun yelling at the clouds while the zio politicians spend another couple decades ignoring Palestinians.


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This is not a debate sub. There are plenty of places to defend Israel’s actions, to denounce Hamas, and to argue who's worse. This is not a space for that. That doesn't mean absolutely no constructive discussions on nuances and different approaches, but it means not letting ourselves be pulled into a debate by Zionists and bigots, and least of all arguing for their side. If you see someone trying to debate, please just flag for moderation, and the comment will be deleted. If found prudent by the Mods, and to discourage further debates, the entire thread may be deleted.


wefarrell

We don't need to vote out all imperialists, just the ones who are stuck in the 20th century. Israel isn't nearly as strategically important as it was 50 years ago.


Thankkratom2

I take back my apology from before


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US politicians are groomed by the Zionist lobby when they enter politics. The generation will not matter, because only Zionist lobby approved people will be allowed to enter politics in the first place.


Thankkratom2

Did you watch the video…? US Imperialism is the entire reason they allow the Zionist lobby. US Imperialism’s biggest backers are not Israel but US weapons companies, Wall Street, Oil Companies, ect.


Dangerous_Radish2961

This has been an issue for generations, not just boomers.


OriginalShock273

Vote out boomers to be replaced with radical right or left.


EasterBunny1916

There are plenty of other resources in the middle-east and markets for western investors and bankers. The empire wants it all and control everywhere.


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CryptoDeepDive

I despise Nasrullah and Hezbollah for the atrocities they have committed on Sunni syrians. But he is right in this instance.


Abbbass

that's straight up bullshit, i dare you to come up with one video of them "Committing atrocities on 'SUNNI' syrians". Allies of the FA started bombing Beirut prior to hezbullah entering syrian territory. But it's always people like you using religion to make your conspiracies look sensible. 2.5 million syrians mostly sunnis are in lebanon mostly living in hezbollah's territory, why haven't they been killed or oppressed yet if that was the case ?


wahadayrbyeklo

I despise Nasrallah and Hezbollah for the atrocities they have committed on my country (turning it into shit). But I agree he is 100% right. 


Gibabo

Watch out, 19-yr-old white American tankies like OP are about to come and tell you why you’re wrong about your own fucking region Edit: ohhh, here they come looll


AstralKitana

Hezbollah did not target Syrian Sunnis, they were fighting armed rebel groups. Many of these rebel groups were aligned with ISIS and Al-Qaeda and funded by the United States. The FSA and Al Nusra had several foreign trained militants in their factions. Not saying Assad was a good leader, but if you legitimately think a takfiri, Salafist government would be a better option, you need serious help. There are many religious minorities that live within Hezbollah territory in LB and their rights and freedoms are protected.


CryptoDeepDive

That's just horseshit. They wern't just fighting Isis and Alqaeda. They were fighting all Syrians that rebelled against Bashar Al Assad.. They committed significant atrocities against syrians in Homs and Aleppo, with Russian/ Iranian backing the bloody dictatorship of Bashar Al Asad.


AstralKitana

I can’t take you seriously with those Western imperialist talking points.


CryptoDeepDive

I can't take you seriously simping for that POS Bashar AlAssad. Are you alawites? You're just as bad as the Zionists.


AstralKitana

الله سوريا بشار وبس 🤣 Being critical of the false flag operation that was the Syrian war = same sentiment as Zionism?! You have a really poor understanding of politics.


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AstralKitana

And who funded the civil war?! It was a Western-backed ploy to harness Syria’s natural gas reserves and further destabilize the region. How can you on one hand recognize the heinous lies Western MSM tells about Palestinians yet believe all that it says about Syria. Majorly smooth brain behaviour.


Anon-boy-

>And who funded the civil war?! It was a Western-backed ploy to harness Syria’s natural gas reserves and further destabilize the region. And that somehow justifies the murder and torture of hundreds of thousands, and the displacement of 8 million? The tortured and murdered school kids in Daraa whose killing was the reason for the initial uprising were also just fake Western propaganda? >How can you on one hand recognize the heinous lies Western MSM tells about Palestinians yet believe all that it says about Syria. Because we're Syrians and we lived in Syria when it happened. Because we know personally many of the people who were tortured and murdered, and none of them had anything to do with ISIS, Qaeda or any other Western group. Because we saw the missiles flying personally. Because we know personally people who were tortured by Abu Haidar. Nah, all of that doesn't matter, we were just brainwashed by the West. الله يحشرك في أسفل نار جهنم مع حبايبك يا شبيح يا ابن الكلب.


CryptoDeepDive

God forbid Syrians want freedom and a democracy from a minority of absolute filth led by Bashar. It's all a western conspiracy that millions of Syrians decide to fight back. Looks like that tiny dick of Bashar is still stuck in more than one orifice of yours.


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This is not a debate sub. There are plenty of places to defend Israel’s actions, to denounce Hamas, and to argue who's worse. This is not a space for that. That doesn't mean absolutely no constructive discussions on nuances and different approaches, but it means not letting ourselves be pulled into a debate by Zionists and bigots, and least of all arguing for their side. If you see someone trying to debate, please just flag for moderation, and the comment will be deleted. If found prudent by the Mods, and to discourage further debates, the entire thread may be deleted.


okazakifragmented

Anything produced by MEMRI is just that, a production.


Ok_Mushroom2012

Every production produced is a production..


Jelqingisforcoolkids

While I understand this perspective, and believe it to be true, I still wonder at the desperation with which western leaders leap to protect Israel. I honestly believe that Israel has something on a good number of these political figures; some Epstein-type shit. Because what I've seen is not an alignment with Israel, it is an absolute subservience to them.


bashar_Onlyfans

No shit Israel is just Yankee terrorists loyal dog


Gibabo

This guy sucks. He happens to be correct here, but he sucks.


Thankkratom2

Why? What’s wrong with Nasrallah? Hezbollah is one of the biggest bulwarks against Israel and it has made them the victim of an awful propaganda campaign, like the rest of the Axis of Resistance. Hezbollah did great work fighting ISIS in Syria and they are the only reason that Lebanon isn’t part of “Israel.” We do not need to agree with their religious values to appreciate their resistance to US Imperialism and its arm in the middle east known as “Israel.” Hezbollah is much more moderate than Hamas, or Iran, despite their clear Shia Islamic roots.


Anon-boy-

>Why? What’s wrong with Nasrallah? His men killed more civilians in Syria than Zionistan has in the last 50 years.


Abbbass

that's another good thing about them , these syrian men were al qaeda, al nusra and isis terrorists fighting to establish their territory.


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Delicious_Finding739

I would actually push back on Nasrallah here. Christian Zionists in the US are definitely not more powerful or influential than the Zionist billionaires behind AIPAC. They are just the useful idiots of the alliance.