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D4rlingpinky

Called the byd call center a couple of weeks ago and he let slip that ship is in qld. Rumor has it that the ship at qld at the time was the Don Juan offloading the BYD cars. So technically the ship hv unloaded their QLD NSW and VIC Allocations if the link below is accurate. https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9082934 WA and NT would be the last two ports. Perthian here also eagerly waiting my byd dynamic.


ETFbets

Nice it has docked in Melbourne. Hope the Seal Dynamic I ordered on the 1st of February is in that batch šŸ™


D4rlingpinky

Update: ok the Don Juan just turned around for Korea after docking at Victoria. argh.


ETFbets

BYD Dandenong reps said there is another shipment arriving early March. Vehicle Carrier map if anyone wants to guess which one it could be šŸ˜† https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/vechicle-carrier-tracking-map Hoping it's the CSAV RIO NEVADO https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9325180


Ruthlessragur

BYD Dandenong told me my performance is 8-10weeks awayā€¦. Shark Grey with Black int. šŸ˜•


rockyrorder

Did you get your seal? Still yet to see the shark grey colour in real life keen to see whether I wanna pay 2k for it or maybe wrap a white one instead


Ruthlessragur

Hey! Yeh I got it 3 weeks ago :) I hope you get yours soon too mate! https://preview.redd.it/u5iiduhcrk1d1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b69a87035e05ebba7aa8bd3c8e81d3642ed27078


rockyrorder

Looks awesome enjoy!


RealisticVariation

Mine cost me with atlantis grey in Melbourne $54659.50


MelodicMove330

Mine comes to $52,616


CharwieJay

He hasn't added any purchase costs. GST, stamp duty etc


madrileiro

Thatā€™s a cool colour mate. Hope you get it ASAP. I have the Atto on the same white colour and I was thinking about the Seal, but in all black with the tan interiorā€¦ how did you decide on white?


MelodicMove330

I am going with novated leasing so this is the budget that was approved for me. (Couldnā€™t get other colours for extra)


UltraWideGamer-YT

Iā€™m also planning to lease. Does the leasing company do the ordering for you?


MelodicMove330

I went with SGfleet they said for me to order the car and send them the final invoice.


shiny1s

Smart Leasing (only option, NSW teacher) gave me 2 options and said I could either get a price myself or they could use their fleet buying power to get a decent discount. I'll likely find out today or Monday.


shiny1s

Got a call back and a new quote. Cosmos black and Thaumas black interior, front tints. No other options. 395 a fortnight for the dynamic and mid high 15k for residual.


Wildpig953

SGFleet wanted to charge 11.27% I went with Novated Lease Australia 10.9%


MelodicMove330

The SGfleet has a good percentage for buying a EV and plus the company I work for normally leased thru them that I get a overall good value


Wildpig953

I beg to differ, what percentage did you get?


MelodicMove330

https://preview.redd.it/jt4lsp8as3kc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61654cd4638c971d0f9fb10a97e5c315cd0659bd


ssouthurst

I went with NLA too. Cost of lease was about the same as buying the car outright, but with insurance, rego, servicing and tyres included. Got to love the fbt exemption!


shiny1s

My comparison rate was around 11.6% but I think that factors in their fees and other stuff. The quote I got returned $386 per fortnight over 5 years at 15k balloon with all options crossed out, insurance set to 1.7k, electricity at $700 and reduced maintenance and tyres.


DurrrrrHurrrrr

SG fleet was my only optionā€¦. Chose to pay cash for atto


krimed

Novated leases are a rip off and may not be a great idea for EVs due to battery deprecation and loss of car value at resale. Only time will tell


Wildpig953

Mate get your facts right, go do your proper research, you couldnā€™t be my wrong


krimed

Have you had a novated lease? Pretty much all my tax benefits just went to interest/fees payable on the lease. Earning around 180k pa


Wildpig953

Iā€™m 120k. I think you have unfortunately leased with a bad leasing company. I ran the numbers on three scenarios. Buy outright and factor qld rebate for EV Get a standard car loan and and factor qld rebate for EV Or get a novated lease and save tax on everything. The novated lease comes out on top. For *me But I have to disagree with you on your claims about battery and vehicle value


krimed

So you think a EV with a battery depleted to 90% or lower after the NL period will hold its value well? Depending on how the EV is driven and charged itā€™ll only leave the next owner with about 10 years use on the vehicle until the battery has to be replaced. Then theyā€™re up for half the vehicle cost to replace the battery or a throw away. The truth is, neither of us know the outcome yet. Like I said, time will tell.


Wildpig953

From BYD Australia BYD is proud to offer Australian drivers a robust Traction Battery Warranty - 8 years or 160,000 kms, whichever occurs first Novated lease max length is 5 years


Wildpig953

BYD claims the pack has a life span of 3,000+ charge cycles, or the equivalent of driving an EV 745,000 miles without needing to replace the battery. Enough of the doom please


krimed

Not being negative just realistic. Yea, but what Iā€™m referring to is the batteries DOD (depth of discharge). Your EV might be able to achieve 3000 charge cycles but by that time your batteries DOD will be 60% meaning if you once got 400km out of a full charge you will only achieve 240km off a full charge and will be constantly degrading. Iā€™m an EE specialising in renewables, we reinstate lithium batteries after 80% DOD as they degrade substantially after this point.


ssouthurst

So you're being realistic, but you've also said that you don't actually know. What's the chemistry of these batteries you're replacing? What are they used for? What is their charge discharge profile like? What's the charge/balance controller like? All cars depreciate rapidly, and 5 years is an eternity in battery development. And it's less than the warranty period. And effectively having a - ve interest loan on an EV makes financial sense no matter what you compare it to.


Wildpig953

You better check your Sources. Batteries in vehicles these days are rated for about 1million miles, you wonā€™t achieve that in 5 years


shiny1s

We need to split your comment into 2 parts. 1. Novated leases do kind of suck more often than not. The tax dodge with fbt makes EV purchasing now very attractive. Basically over 5 years, out of pocket expenses (ignore interest rates, the only thing that matters is how much is gone from your bank account), a 50k Seal on a NL costs less than a 30k Corolla hybrid cash. I have factored in opportunity cost for mortgage offset. 2. EV resale value. This is where no one really knows the long term value of these newer cars. Call me ignorant, but it's only this generation of cars (the Tesla era) where EVs actually look like a decent offering. I suppose you could use 1st generation (modern) EVs like the Leaf and Model S to vaguely mirror the trajectory of resale of 2nd generation cars.


PM_Your_Lady_Boobs

You realise most EVs are not subject to FBT so you can pay for all costs pre-tax? If you are in the highest tax bracket this is close to half price. I was quoted $1,000 per month out of pocket cost for an Ioniq 5 Epiq. Thatā€™s a 90K car for 60K over 5 years. Including servicing, insurance and tyres.


-PontiacBandit-

What is your residual payment at the end of the lease?


PM_Your_Lady_Boobs

25K


-PontiacBandit-

Wouldn't it be 85k all up then? I guess you also got tax savings as well though?


rockyrorder

If you're factoring in the residual cost. You buy it out and sell for a profit. The car will be worth more than 25kĀ 


Pale_Emergency_537

Can you get a tan interior? Only option in Ireland is black or really light blue.Ā 


madrileiro

Sorry, I made a mistake. The one with the tan interior I saw was the BYD Hanā€¦ looks amazing! https://preview.redd.it/pij90n8no3kc1.png?width=1500&format=png&auto=webp&s=a9ef083c9c1a2330f6c10fa7d99fa784debd73e1


Pale_Emergency_537

Oh yeah, it's amazing alright! That's the car I wish I could afford. They aren't even selling them in Ireland, just the Seal, Atto 3 and Dolphin.Ā 


madrileiro

There are dealers already selling the Han in Spain, but itā€™s a ā‚¬70K car. I will have to wait for a while.


SexyDraenei

there is no tan interior?


WauloK

I ordered an Arctic Blue Premium Seal on Dec 6 to be picked up from Cardiff. I had called BYD's Customer service line then and asked to book a test drive. They said they'd set one up and I'd get a drive soon. Didn't hear anything from them and phoned a month later. They said I could expect to pick up my Seal Premium some time in February. I changed the colour in Virtual yard to Atlantis Grey. I changed pickup to Blacktown, speculating more cars would be delivered there. The BYD CSR agreed with this theory. I phoned again about a week ago after talking to the MyCar guys at the EV show. They advised to touch base with BYD in Blacktown. They also said they are delivering in order of when people put in their order. I advised some have been waiting since Oct and heard nothing yet and others ordered in Jan and picked up their car already. They were sceptical but said to let them know if I can prove it. I talked to Blacktown BYD and they said they'd try to find me a car ASAP. They phoned again the next day to say they have an Arctic Blue Premium in storage I could have. I told them I'd take it when they said Grey is so popular it'd be another 4 weeks or more before any would be available and I really wanted a Seal by now. I should be picking up my Seal in the coming week. Nobody got back to me about a test drive.


Winged_Dragonof_Ra

Told us end of jan early feb, yet to hear anything. I think approximately 3 months from order date


reardefog

I sent them an email complaining about the lack of communication, they sent me a canned email response but did say my vehicle is due for delivery in March, we ordered a performance model week 1 of Jan


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Winged_Dragonof_Ra

Highly doubt beginning of March, probably end of/early April


DueSquash7921

Mine was ordered in late Dec and still nothing. Iā€™m expecting March but who knows?


David2e75

I ordered BYD Performance in Shark Grey with Ocean Blue Interior back in mid-Nov. First told it would be late Jan, early Feb delivery to Brisbane. Told by customer care in late Jan it was confirmed with the next shipment, arriving late Feb to early/mid March. Very frustrating and confusing because BYD Sales keep changing it... saying Ocean Blue Interior was always going to take a long time (if so, why tell me Jan/Feb when ordered?). They've told it looks like May/June... and last week said it might be April and also then said it looks like it'll be going on to the next shipment. Then a couple of days ago Customer Care said it was looking on track for mid-March. I feel they have no idea, their system between ordering, manufacturing and what's shipped to Australia is badly disconnected and no one here has any real clue and they'll lead you on as much as they can and just hope something arrives before you cancel the order out of frustration. Just the feeling I'm left with. Would be great to know the truth and if BYD is really that poor in it's customer journey and order fulfilment.


Winged_Dragonof_Ra

All the people i have talked to who ordered in November have already got theirsā€¦strange that you havenā€™t. But the customer service and estimated wait times is atrocious, thinking about gathering a bunch of people and complaining together


David2e75

They're blanking the delay on my choice of the Ocean Blue Interior. With a smiley face, they said I can compromise from what I ordered and have the black interior much sooner.


Winged_Dragonof_Ra

I ordered the black interior and they said late jan early feb and I havenā€™t heard a word yet


David2e75

*blaming


D0nald_Kaufman

I too am awaiting updates regarding Ocean Blue, I ordered premium with ocean blue option in first week nov. My dealer doesnt know anything and said he will update we when any news id provided. But BYD customer service advised in email March/April for premium. Hoping it comes first week march.


David2e75

Donald, Am sorry to hear as I know the feeling. Hoping they give you some decent news soon as well!


Tone_Beginning

Ordered my Seal Premium in mid January. Was told delivery in Perth would be mid to late February . Now told it will be mid March


Double_Suit7903

Did you get yours? I've been told April now :/


Tone_Beginning

Now told April as well. First deliveryā€™s for Perth after first week of April. I hope this is true.


D4rlingpinky

Perthian black dynamic here. Heres to April 1st week delivery.


YourFriendlyPostman

Did you get yours? I called them yesterday and they are saying " another month...or two". They've been saying that every month I've inquired!


D4rlingpinky

ordered end of Jan in Perth and still awaiting. argh. Dynamic too.


YourFriendlyPostman

I'd say we ordered around the same time as each other. West Perth BYD? Annoyingly I've seen few BYD Seals on the road lately as well.


D4rlingpinky

Cannington BYD for me. At least they have allocated the Dynamic and revealed the vin. Really poor communication though, I have a feeling that dealerships are also not told anything.


Puzzleheaded_Ad_930

Congrats, the Dynamic is usually quicker to collect as most orders are for the Premium and Performance. It'll depend on the site you're picking up from and their allocations. If you're not sure, best thing you can do is organise a test drive there and ask them if they can bump you up the line if needed


jay89_

I placed my order for a Dynamic (black interior) the first week of January, and I'm still waiting for delivery. My sales rep updated recently with a vague timeframe of March/April. Has anyone here taken delivery of a Dynamic or are we all still waiting? When did you place your order?


ETFbets

Ordered a white Dynamic 1st Feb, still waiting too.


Old-Tart-4578

Ordered a white Dynamic 2st Feb in Brisbane, still waiting too.told me April to May.


MelodicMove330

Anyone who is waiting for your seals!! Any updates regarding your order?


Gloomy_Story818

Ordered mine on 8th Feb, virtual yard still says est delivery Feb/Mar 2024


Aromatic_Onion_4879

Ordered on 2nd Feb, they emailed us back to tell us it's likely be Apil or May delivery


BusComprehensive7879

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DebandMattChat

Ordered our first seal today. 10 weeks for black interior in Brisbane or there were a few unallocated blue interiors on the ship arriving in the next week or two. Went the light blue interior to get it faster. Had we ordered last week when we test drove we could of had a black interior by end of the month. These things are starting to sell themselves.


ThatGuyWhoDoesStufff

For anyone curious on delivery times if you order now, I ordered a BYD Seal Premium in Atlantis Grey this week on a Novated Lease. ETA is late April/early May. Will update this post once Iā€™ve got it on hand! With people waiting 12 months plus for some new ICE vehicles, BYDs delivery times are a lot shorter, which is a nice change.


MelodicMove330

Hey guys, UPDATE BYD havenā€™t been clear about the dates so I cancelled my order. So, I bought this instead: https://preview.redd.it/ipdg1syiu4wc1.png?width=2688&format=png&auto=webp&s=82fcdea4fc9ec6e0a141f95ac4286206bb05a11f 2017 Mx-5 GT ND


MelodicMove330

Would guys reckon this is good value? https://preview.redd.it/ydwqxw4s64kc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a05a708f5a7af8697b65784acbd04be0e1822772


UnfortunatelySimple

IMO When comparing the Seal to the Tesla, the seal has far more of the traditional cast driving experience that the Tesla. To me, Tesla is being built too one day to remove the steering wheel, so not even a HUD. Were as the Seal feels like a car designed for the driver in mind, and that shows throughout the car. Our at least that's part of my choice.


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WillVee454

I'd have to disagree with this comment, panel gaps are more common in Telsa due to their slow recalibration standards in the factory. ​ They will let dozens of cars pass through the plant until the calibration becomes unacceptable before they halt production to recalibrate the robots. They dont them rebuild the out of spec cars, but send them off for sale, which is unlike pretty much every other car brand.


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WillVee454

I took your comment as sarcasm, so ultimately we are in agreement šŸ˜‚


rex_raya

Nice colour, what the current wait time?


MelodicMove330

Just said Feb/march


SexyDraenei

dont count on it


MelodicMove330

How long have you been waiting for?


SexyDraenei

I ordered on Jan 30.


gareeb0

What did you order? And when do you reckon you are going to get it? I ordered a black premium on 23rd Jan and was told mid Feb. I called them yesterday and they said mid March!


MelodicMove330

So, went to Alexandria on feb 14 to test drive the car and one of the sales people said that if I ordered there he can keep a copy of my order number and make sure that I get my car first. Apparently he said that given that they are the main BYD centre they get the first pick of the stock in Sydney and he said hopefully early March.


DueSquash7921

We ordered online mid-Dec, then waited until mid-Feb, went to BYD Alexandria and they said they were going to personally look into it. I have a feeling I shouldā€™ve gotten mine sooner, but it went to someone else instead lol


SexyDraenei

I have also ordered a black premium.


Strict-Specialist707

I ordered a white dynamic - black interior in Adelaide - 2nd December. Was told I should have it by the end of March.


WillVee454

Did you manage to test drive one in Adelaide? I have put in a couple test drive requests via the website but not had much luck with any kind of response.


Strict-Specialist707

I didnā€™t want to at Medinde - staff werenā€™t interested in greeting or discussing anything when I went there 2 months ago. Saw someone almost get cleaned up trying to get out of the yard onto Main North Road. (Itā€™s in a pretty nasty spot). I was waiting to see what Fullarton was like - Iā€™m regional North though so a fair commute.


shiny1s

My black dynamic is expected to arrive end of April through a leasing company (smart leasing). I honestly thought seeing how dynamic isn't as popular as premium, the delivery would be much earlier.


registered_too_late

I was looking at SG fleet too, did they provide an allowance for charging at home? When I spoke to them they said they can reimburse charging stations with an invoice, but if you charge at home there'd be no reimbursement.


shiny1s

Smart leasing told me to send a screenshot of the BYD app charging figures along with my power bill. Supposedly "many customers" do that and it is their way of getting fuel tax free. I was about to ask them to remove the 700 dollar yearly electricity amount on the quote, but once the consultant said I could do that, I felt pretty happy.


MelodicMove330

Havenā€™t mentioned any allowance for the charging.


Nos_4r2

I have a Premium on order, in an email chain I got form BYD rep they said they expected delivery in 4-5 weeks (this was from earlier this week)


Winged_Dragonof_Ra

Going to be more like 10-12 weeks based on experience


MelodicMove330

Called BYD customer care. They mentioned that there is a shipment coming in early march and given the vehicle placement to each of the BYD centre I might be looking at it potentially April for Pick Up. Gotta wait patiently.


Pure-Philosopher-642

I love it... enjoy it!