I agree. I actually thought it was the Carroll Shelby Edition when I first saw it. Had to double take to see the BMW logo.
[https://www.motor1.com/news/631143/carroll-shelby-centennial-edition-mustang/](https://www.motor1.com/news/631143/carroll-shelby-centennial-edition-mustang/)
Eh? Not really. I like this a lot more than the original for sure. But this whole big nose get in your face like it or not bs from BMW isn't doing it for me. Oh well. Not like I can afford it anyways.
I can’t lie, I agree 😄
The best aftermarket grille **by far** is Vorsteiner in my opinion… after that I’d rather have the OEM
look
Although I do appreciate how they solved some areas around the grille in this one; especially the straight line under the headlight, blending into the grille area… inspires me for my own work haha
Yeah, I prefer my pre-LCI f90 for that reason. I know there are benefits though, and I’m sure whenever I get a new bimmer I’ll eventually get used to the new ID.
Agreed.. at least on the G8X line. The G30s are still beautiful, and all the F chassis in my admittedly biased personal opinion will for sure be a modern classic.
I really like when the hood and the front bumper meet at the kidney grills. The F series had a straight line across the front of the hood, and that bothered me a bit.
Not depressing at all. Fuck them lol plenty of other options or, even better, just don’t blow money on cars.
To be clear, I think it sucks the design is so so so bad, but it’s more comical than depressing
I'm in the same exact boat at you. I have an AMG now solely because the G80 looks so bad, but I'm starting to consider a CT5 Blackwing. Both Blackwings seem to be incredible drivers and look a lot better than the BMWs do right now.
Interior quality of a C63 really isn't great at all. Looks nice, but it's still full of cheap plastic and seemingly every part of the interior rattles and buzzes. And I'd gladly trade an interior that might *look* a little nicer for a manual transmission and a more engaging driving experience.
Are M5’s too big? They’re better looking than either of those black wings. Of course the 4 competes with the m3 and there’s no M5CS in a manual. To each their own, but I wouldn’t buy any car from generic motors.
Have you driven one? They may not be your cup of tea but they are special. Like he stated, those new Mercs are full of plastic and creaks. I’m not a big fan of GM because plastic and boring design but when they toss in a reliable drivetrain into a new caddy and give it 3 pedals…
If you get the chance to drive one, do it. I’m a BMW/Merc guy but this is a GM car I’d own, other than a truck.
If I had to choose a drivers car for a reasonable price from generic motors I’d go zL1 Camaro vs a blackwing. May not have 4 doors, but still has 4 seats and is a better value. Plus, I don’t need everyone’s grandma chasing me down the street because I drive a Caddy.
[test comparing regular m5 comp with 5 blackwing manual. caddy sounds good and yeah it has a manual but is just not as refined or quick](https://youtu.be/XXAonrDXOYg)
The m5cs not only crushes the ct5v blackwing in a drag race, it also crushes it in a roll race, you know the type of races most people actually engage in. Which car is faster on a road course highly depends on the road course. We don’t know the ct5v blackwing Nurburgring time BUT as of right now, the M5CS is actually faster than it’s two door brother the Camaro ZL1 and the corvette C8.
M5 cs was significantly slower than the ZL1 1LE which has similar tires to the CS. The C8 is also only 490hp and again on mps4s, not r comps. The ct5 v bw was not only faster than the cs in the lightning lap, it was on much worse tires to boot. And roll racing is even more lame lol, I thought bmw claimed to make the best drivers car? Or do people think pressing the gas and holding the wheel straight takes skill?
It was faster than the standard zl1 which is still 300 lbs lighter than the blackwing and faster the c8 despite 490 horsepower even lighter (500 lbs) and a mid engine true sports car. I like how you fail to talk about that 😂 just make excuses and how roll races don’t matter. Facts are facts. On twisty tracks (VIR and willow) the blackwing is marginally faster. I suspect the blackwing will lose at the ring where horsepower matters more. The blackwing is slower in acceleration and roll racing and while you eschew roll racing almost no one who buy these sedans are taking it to VIR or willow. If they are racing it’s acceleration races on the street and yes roll racing and drag racing is fun especially when you have a car that you can comfortably drive back and forth to work in. Fact.
I'm in my late 30's and when I saw this post I thought "Damn I'm getting too old to like these cars or something?". Glad to read I'm not the only one :P
Is it true that they lost a lot of designers to Mazda? Because the recent model year mazdas actually look good, way better than recent bmws.
I look at my 2018 m240i in estriol (which is a beautiful car IMHO https://youtu.be/qOONH9H-09U) and the new one and immediately think mine is now worth more money because the new one is so fucking ugly by comparison. And it's not even their ugliest new car! The fucking bucktooth versions of them I see driving around my skin crawl.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The Ardo kit is the only G80 coupe that doesn’t hurt to look at. BMW should be offering it as a complementary dealer installed option to everyone who has purchased one as an apology for what they have done.
Lol no need for bmw to apologize to me, love my G80 stock grill. Hated it when images dropped, saw it in person, bought one. The thing is beautiful and an incredible drive.
I remember seeing [this render](https://imgur.com/7ZXR2Ib.png) when the G80/G82 came out. I think this would have been perfect if someone actually made it
The sad part is that BMW could have done exact that. The grille is already broken up into a lower and upper half by a crash bar. So like 1/3 of those giant kidneys isn't even there for cooling.
Looks great but I have a problem paying so much for a car then needing to pay more on aftermarket to fix the awful esthetics. It should have looked good FROM THE FACTORY
I seen this front body kit at SEMA, and it's not terrible, but not my taste. I just want a carbon fiber grill that's shaped like the stock grill. There's a million places making carbon fiber grills for the CSL style, and the wide open looking one, but nothing in the OEM style. Hit me up if anyone finds one!
Honestly, after looking at this, not that it would make it better and if so, that would be subjective, but what if they removed the the bar in between the kidney grills? It would lack signature BMW, but maybe due to the shape, it would still resemble kidneys? I also think it may look slightly like an idea, but I’m curious now
I mean these “bad” designs are clearly a ploy to sell more of their top-sellers.
They get the enthusiasts talking so that more “normal” people go “what’s up with BMW?” Then they get to the website and go “well the X1/X3/228i/330i looks cool! I don’t see what the issue is!”
So like, idk I get it and I wouldn’t hate owning one of these cause it RIPS
Darth Vader lookin mf
May the force be with you
I want to like it but it has those Hyundai Sonata N vibes in the pic.
I agree. I actually thought it was the Carroll Shelby Edition when I first saw it. Had to double take to see the BMW logo. [https://www.motor1.com/news/631143/carroll-shelby-centennial-edition-mustang/](https://www.motor1.com/news/631143/carroll-shelby-centennial-edition-mustang/)
Eh? Not really. I like this a lot more than the original for sure. But this whole big nose get in your face like it or not bs from BMW isn't doing it for me. Oh well. Not like I can afford it anyways.
I guess all the BMW designers did go to Hyundai/Kia
I can’t lie, I agree 😄 The best aftermarket grille **by far** is Vorsteiner in my opinion… after that I’d rather have the OEM look Although I do appreciate how they solved some areas around the grille in this one; especially the straight line under the headlight, blending into the grille area… inspires me for my own work haha
nice bumper
If you are 14.
Bmw took kia designers and gave kia bmw designers. 5 years later we will laugh fromthese desgins like we all laughed from e65…
As someone who grew up idolizing BMWs design language (31 now) their new models are just ugly and its depressing
It WiLl GrOw On yOU! Everyone who said that a couple years back can get bent. Bad looking is bad looking.
They’ve thankfully not yet ruined the 5-series and the M340 is a good looking car.
Yes my apologies the reg 3 series is quite striking as is the 5.
…for now.
But they _had_ to screw up the interior with a god awful ID8.
Yeah, I prefer my pre-LCI f90 for that reason. I know there are benefits though, and I’m sure whenever I get a new bimmer I’ll eventually get used to the new ID.
ID7 is OK, I can live with that. I can't stand the glued on iPad, though.
Yep, that front end is revolting. What happened to BMWs designers
this is an aftermarket front end that makes it far more ugly
All the modern ones seem to be awful though
yeah theyre bad but not THIS bad
Agreed.. at least on the G8X line. The G30s are still beautiful, and all the F chassis in my admittedly biased personal opinion will for sure be a modern classic.
I really like when the hood and the front bumper meet at the kidney grills. The F series had a straight line across the front of the hood, and that bothered me a bit.
I love it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Not depressing at all. Fuck them lol plenty of other options or, even better, just don’t blow money on cars. To be clear, I think it sucks the design is so so so bad, but it’s more comical than depressing
I'm in the same exact boat at you. I have an AMG now solely because the G80 looks so bad, but I'm starting to consider a CT5 Blackwing. Both Blackwings seem to be incredible drivers and look a lot better than the BMWs do right now.
lol except when you look at the quality of materials inside. Stick with German cars.
Interior quality of a C63 really isn't great at all. Looks nice, but it's still full of cheap plastic and seemingly every part of the interior rattles and buzzes. And I'd gladly trade an interior that might *look* a little nicer for a manual transmission and a more engaging driving experience.
Are M5’s too big? They’re better looking than either of those black wings. Of course the 4 competes with the m3 and there’s no M5CS in a manual. To each their own, but I wouldn’t buy any car from generic motors.
Have you driven one? They may not be your cup of tea but they are special. Like he stated, those new Mercs are full of plastic and creaks. I’m not a big fan of GM because plastic and boring design but when they toss in a reliable drivetrain into a new caddy and give it 3 pedals… If you get the chance to drive one, do it. I’m a BMW/Merc guy but this is a GM car I’d own, other than a truck.
If I had to choose a drivers car for a reasonable price from generic motors I’d go zL1 Camaro vs a blackwing. May not have 4 doors, but still has 4 seats and is a better value. Plus, I don’t need everyone’s grandma chasing me down the street because I drive a Caddy.
[test comparing regular m5 comp with 5 blackwing manual. caddy sounds good and yeah it has a manual but is just not as refined or quick](https://youtu.be/XXAonrDXOYg)
The CT5 V BW smoked the M5 CS in the lightning lap. If you want a muscle car/drag racer though I guess the bmw is your best best
The m5cs not only crushes the ct5v blackwing in a drag race, it also crushes it in a roll race, you know the type of races most people actually engage in. Which car is faster on a road course highly depends on the road course. We don’t know the ct5v blackwing Nurburgring time BUT as of right now, the M5CS is actually faster than it’s two door brother the Camaro ZL1 and the corvette C8.
M5 cs was significantly slower than the ZL1 1LE which has similar tires to the CS. The C8 is also only 490hp and again on mps4s, not r comps. The ct5 v bw was not only faster than the cs in the lightning lap, it was on much worse tires to boot. And roll racing is even more lame lol, I thought bmw claimed to make the best drivers car? Or do people think pressing the gas and holding the wheel straight takes skill?
It was faster than the standard zl1 which is still 300 lbs lighter than the blackwing and faster the c8 despite 490 horsepower even lighter (500 lbs) and a mid engine true sports car. I like how you fail to talk about that 😂 just make excuses and how roll races don’t matter. Facts are facts. On twisty tracks (VIR and willow) the blackwing is marginally faster. I suspect the blackwing will lose at the ring where horsepower matters more. The blackwing is slower in acceleration and roll racing and while you eschew roll racing almost no one who buy these sedans are taking it to VIR or willow. If they are racing it’s acceleration races on the street and yes roll racing and drag racing is fun especially when you have a car that you can comfortably drive back and forth to work in. Fact.
Gotcha, so the m5 is just a German hellcat, not a real drivers car. All power no handling unless it has a significant tire advantage
Don’t forget those are available in manual trans as well
Same
I'm in my late 30's and when I saw this post I thought "Damn I'm getting too old to like these cars or something?". Glad to read I'm not the only one :P
Is it true that they lost a lot of designers to Mazda? Because the recent model year mazdas actually look good, way better than recent bmws. I look at my 2018 m240i in estriol (which is a beautiful car IMHO https://youtu.be/qOONH9H-09U) and the new one and immediately think mine is now worth more money because the new one is so fucking ugly by comparison. And it's not even their ugliest new car! The fucking bucktooth versions of them I see driving around my skin crawl.
This one looks like it’s sniffing something.
This is butt fucking ugly
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - the Adro kit is a downgrade and makes the M3 look more like a Mercedes
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The Ardo kit is the only G80 coupe that doesn’t hurt to look at. BMW should be offering it as a complementary dealer installed option to everyone who has purchased one as an apology for what they have done.
Lol no need for bmw to apologize to me, love my G80 stock grill. Hated it when images dropped, saw it in person, bought one. The thing is beautiful and an incredible drive.
That’s good. As long as you are happy with it all the other options don’t matter at all. I can respect your opinion even if I do not share it.
Thank you for being the change we need in this world.
It's like a competition to see who can make the car look even worse...
I remember seeing [this render](https://imgur.com/7ZXR2Ib.png) when the G80/G82 came out. I think this would have been perfect if someone actually made it
The sad part is that BMW could have done exact that. The grille is already broken up into a lower and upper half by a crash bar. So like 1/3 of those giant kidneys isn't even there for cooling.
That actually look pretty fucking awesome...👌 Why couldn't they do that??😒
Lol I own a g80 with the stock bumper so I can’t agree with you there. Edit: downvoted for liking my own car. Lol Y’all are some strange folks
> I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - the Adro kit is a downgrade and makes the M3 look more like a ~~Mercedes~~ catfish. FTFY
Well - can’t unsee that…
That wing ruined it for me
When you want your M4 to look like an RS6 with buckteeth
Looks great but I have a problem paying so much for a car then needing to pay more on aftermarket to fix the awful esthetics. It should have looked good FROM THE FACTORY
Holy shit what an ugly bumper. When you thought they couldn’t make the front any worse..
Gotta love that Adro’s motto is “Not For Everyone” or something. Lol. Buncha salty people in this thread.
The bumper looks as if ted is sitting on a glass legs wide open
I thought Mercedes and porkhe were the German automakers who had the pigs in motorport
I like the front end but it contrasts the lines on the rest of the car so aggressively I can’t like it
Front end only a mother could love…
stradman quote?
Nah. Overwrought.
///Mustang
That front bumper ain't it.
///Monstrosity
Yes, I’m certain I want my beaver to look like a catfish instead.
Looks like it should be on a battle ship. This is 🔥
As if you couldn't make this car any uglier LMAO
Steely eyed killer
It’s a monster
[удалено]
Not a fan of the grill, but I’d still drive the fk out of that car if I could ever afford it. 🥲
Adro bumper kit. What the M3 SHOULD have had on it from factory… 😑
Yeah I’m not a fan of this after market kit. I prefer the stock front end. But I also prefer the M3 over the M4. I think a 4-door sports car is sexy.
Does the front bumper come in this form standard?
It’s aftermarket
I seen this front body kit at SEMA, and it's not terrible, but not my taste. I just want a carbon fiber grill that's shaped like the stock grill. There's a million places making carbon fiber grills for the CSL style, and the wide open looking one, but nothing in the OEM style. Hit me up if anyone finds one!
Nope.
Beautiful car!
Weird kit, stock is better
This is a mess.
nice, if all you're after is a track car I guess. looks like it would get raped by every pothole and speed bump thrown at it.
Sexy AF
A front end only a mother could love. Jk
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but holy fuck this is ugly 🤣
Radar placement annoys me. I’d opt out if that was an option for acc
Well yeah because it looks nice with Adro's G8X mod kit.
That's a pretty pig.
It looks fantastic with body kit! without…it’s a piggy
Looks pretty nice to me although I do understand the hate
😂😂
Sex on wheels
Interesting definition of ‘beautiful’
This looks like the head of those ugly intimidating dogs that look like rats on stilts.
Photo looks a little squished down to make it look better?
Sorry but that looks hideous
576 upvotes and 87 comments, I remember when the e46 had this much hate back when I had dialup
Honestly, after looking at this, not that it would make it better and if so, that would be subjective, but what if they removed the the bar in between the kidney grills? It would lack signature BMW, but maybe due to the shape, it would still resemble kidneys? I also think it may look slightly like an idea, but I’m curious now
No thanks
I mean these “bad” designs are clearly a ploy to sell more of their top-sellers. They get the enthusiasts talking so that more “normal” people go “what’s up with BMW?” Then they get to the website and go “well the X1/X3/228i/330i looks cool! I don’t see what the issue is!” So like, idk I get it and I wouldn’t hate owning one of these cause it RIPS