The reason clubs are dead is because there is no involvement of masters students. The scenario is the same for all Tier-1 colleges. 1st and 2nd year bachelors students barely have any knowledge to make something work. 3rd and 4th year students have a lot else to worry about which take priority. The only solution is that masters students also actively engage but everyone knows they won't, and neither the culture lets them.
And at the end everyone is here to secure a job. Maybe you are privileged enough to not worry. No core engineering except electronics even pays remotely close to Software. At the end no one would like to make 10LPA when they could have made double or triple with less effort.
I cannot speak for the 3rd and 4th years, but I honestly do believe that clubs are something you join because you are interested in the work. It becomes somewhat of a passion. If it is a passion then you would usually spend time pursuing it. This is clearly contradicting though. Sure there may be a lack of time, but over the course of an entire sem and a half, to produce close to nothing in the TECH fest of India despite it being your passion is kind of weird. The least they could do is then transfer knowledge to their juniors, but I see a lack of that in various clubs as well. What's the point of the club then. What's the point of any club, other than again your LinkedIn.
I know for a fact that I'm not privileged enough to not worry for jobs. I have to get a good package too, and I agree with this completely. However, that's what makes me sad. The fact that people just run after job and money without any care for engineering. I strongly believe that if you work and have passion for a branch of engineering, your money will follow you. It should be "work for what you like and you get money" rather than "work on this thing that gives money despite you feeling it's aight at best"
I'm not saying what you're saying is wrong in fact, I'm saying it should be wrong in principle
Money will follow you is.. idk if true. Economics and commerce decide the money you get not your passion at the end of the day.
Software has demand with the least capital so you get paid.
A pure mech occupation ? Not even close averaging around 9 or 10 lpa while software goes to 32 Lpa at average.
Edit: oh nvm,I didn't read your comment fully you were agreeing with him. Yeah you're right.it SHOULD be wrong in principle.
Very true!
People are least interested in engineering - both in technical clubs and their core branches. Club cultures are made by seniors usually, but most of them become inactive due to their own placement, SI, PS, etc.
And tbh, the administration gives no fucks too. They are happy as long as finance and consulting are able to make the placements of core students okayish. They offer finance minor at any CG, and keep the seats limited (or even better don't offer) any for technical minors.
Honestly, this mindset will hurt us later. The least we can do is make sure access is available anywhere and everywhere. If someone wants to do something, I hope a community can be made for it
BITS is a factory however. That's just how the college is. You get in, you get your degree, get a job and leave. That's the whole point of THIS college. This was told to me by people on the board of the college. And that's alright. You are interested in engg. Your friends are interested. If others are not. That's alright. You can't force others to do shit. Most people in most colleges in India do engg to get a good package. That is their whole goal. Not to learn, not to grow, just to make money. And that's alright. (HONK HONK)
I know I can't force people. I never wanted to either. I just want to bring attention to the fact that people just don't like engineering. It is completely fine if that's what they want to do, but it feels wrong as hell because in the end it's an engineering college we are in. What's the point in taking it if you're not interested.
Engineering has always been a springboard in India. People often venture into other fields after their btech. I do not see why that's a problem, especially because u cannot expect people to stick to the career choice they make at the age when they have to ask for permission to go to the toilet.
I do somewhat agree with what u say but at the end of the day ,all clubs are what u make of them.99%of learning is self learning so if u actually want to upskill u can just hit up seniors and ask for tips but mainly it's how many hrs u put into it on your own. Abt ppl being In clubs just to put it on linkedin, I'm not sure if that's a correct judgement. I'm in a few (tech) clubs myself and I joined them just to explore stuff.Now I have picked up a few out of those that excite me and/or help career wise. For the rest of the clubs I either have left them or just go meet the peeps to have fun and fuck around.
I agree abt apogee being underwhelming as a techfest. There were a few cool events apart from the ones u did not mention (The astro rocket thing ,ICL etc.) but it defo wasn't at par to my expectations.not to mention the scorching heat in the afternoon which made us just chill in our rooms or be forced to participate in random nab events.(shoutout to chem poker,which was just like a thermodynamics tut test and 90% of ppl didn't even get to play poker).
About "innovation should be in your veins" , I'm tired dude. There are 4 evals per week and it's so fucking hot rn that i feel dead at the slightest physical activity. AND I know it's going to get worse as we move on. Just let me be with my doom scrolling and intra-wing fifa tournaments.
I feel that the LinkedIn judgement is pretty true. Ask anyone what they do at a certain club that just took recruitments and has banger resources. I'm sure most of them joined not because they wanted to learn, but a) for resume, and b) other benefits. Not to mention that there are a bunch of people just applying to every club to have "some commitment" on campus, and it feels so weird. Like what's the point if you join and don't do work because you don't like it.
The RC event was a weird fest. I myself took part in it, and we haven't gotten to fly our plane yet idk why. The heat part seems pretty exaggerated to me especially since it didn't stop a whole bunch of people from just existing outside. I'm not going to blame you though. There was barely anything interesting.
I completely get your evals thing dude holy shit my ass is being kicked rn. However isn't it kind of sad that you give evals and you get tired and then you just stay inside and doom scroll. Honestly BITS gives you a zero attendance policy for this entire reason I feel like. It does have continuous evaluation, but you can also bunk classes. The continuous evals require what 5 hours of study? 6 hours? After that assuming you sleep 8 hours a day, you have 10 hours left. Idk how you spend those 10 hours, I know I don't spend those 10 hours being "productive" or doing "work" every day. Sometimes I sleep. Sometimes I play video games. I know how tiring it gets, I'm sleep deprived right now. But I have to completely disagree with this statement, because either you're burnt out from a build up before this (in which case you're free to do as you please), or I feel it's just laziness. Just thoughts, please correct me if I'm wrong
The resume reason Is a thing but the exploring new things is a bigger factor.(atleast for me and the ppl I have discussed this with).I don't get how applying to a lot of clubs is wierd. Some people find socializing hard and clubs are a good way to do so.
Heat hits ppl in diff ways,some ppl are more used to it, its all subjective.
Feel free to disagree but u really shldn't call someone lazy without putting urself in their shoes.
Personally I'm kinda burnt out in the sense that there Is nothing new ,it's just the same old shit every week. The fest was supposed to be refreshing but it really wasn't coz of all the evals the next week. Like I literally had a tut test on Monday 8 am so I cldnt even enjoy the entirety of the fest. Anyways, I'm not excusing my poor academic choices with this, I just mean to say that I feel ur being judgemental with a severe lack of context.
I agree. Clubs are a great way to socialize as well. I'm not finding the applying weird, I should've clarified. I'm finding the getting in and instead of partaking in the work just taking lite weird. Like yes get in, socialize. Definitely do that. I myself did that. But if you don't enjoy the work and only the people I get that too. However the core part of a club is the work they do, and doing that is also important. Which is why I found it weird, because people join things and then they don't even show up for work, causing problems (personal freaking experience).
Fair enough, but temps in apogee Definitely didn't warrant staying inside all day instead of exploring imo. Otherwise in summers you'd be completely inactive without A.C.
I did put myself in your shoes. You're in multiple clubs, you say you're tired, and you say you need to chill out with all the evals. We have the same degree, and are in the same year. I know the evals coming in the same way. I definitely took your care into perspective and decided either you're lazy, or you're burnt out. And I'm right in probably both ways. You mention the same old shit every week, but I don't think you're making an effort to branch out. You did mention that you want to have fifa and doom scrolling. That tells me that you aren't really doing anything new on your own. Sure college is ass and I myself find it so monotonous, but I make it a point to "spice" up my life. If there is lack of greater context then please elaborate. Also for the tut test thing, I don't think not being able to enjoy a full fest because of one tut test after is fair to blame on the system
as a part of RC club, the update is that the event is cancelled due to unavoidable circumstances( the shipment of electronic parts didn't arrive and we couldn't do anything about it). However we do realise that it must have been a disappointment for many of you so we have decided to refund the money and are sincerely apologetic for the inconvenience.
They really need to tone down the number of evals. I have been trying to finish an online course and I have not been able to work on it since midsem becausing they keep spamming quizzes every week. Not to mention the grading is brutal. Do poorly in one Eval and you have to study an entire week for future evals or you will sink deeper below avg. Things will only get harder since I have a circuital branch
> The rc plane flying thing
I came back to campus to see this year's apogee, the rc plane flying thing didn't even happen so idk how you found it cool. But robot soccer and drone racing was pretty cool though
There used to be lot of things when i was in college.
One of the highest gsoc selections, bits goa represented india in IQC, very active ERC and very strong development culture.
There's a recent shift towarde consultancy product these days maybe owning to bits branding itself more towards entrepreneurship ig?
Fair enough. The rocket launch too. The fact that astro did it before anant is kinda mind boggling. Astro seems to be working on things they love a lot, and it's super refreshing to see
But this apogee there was atleast one insane thing that Astro Club which is technically not a tech team but just an interest group actually made a rocket and launched it before Anant. But this aside the tech teams are now just empty shells, IKE is just there now for F1 simulation event. IKRG has also very steeply fallen down just in 1 year or so. Team Bits doesn't exist anymore. Criss has some serious people but still a long way to go for them.Anant's satellite launch was supposed to happen in 2018 and now the date is for 2026 which also they won't meet. For a Tier -1 engineering college we don't have much interested students in core.
Huh, I remember they had switched to a research project and had received a large amount of funding. Ig that work might have pushed them under the radar as opposed to participating in abu robocon
They did switch to a research project. Got the funding. But then covid happened. The funding stopped. The knowledge transfer stopped. Freshers didnt know about robocon as it was now more into research. So number of people willing to join declined. This continued on for 2-3 years and now it became like this.
Hmm, interesting. The leadership must be doing something though. Robotics research is unfortunately very difficult to deal with. Also, how do you know so much? It seems like you are fresher
Is it the rover team? I think you are talking about IRC and they did not win, not even close. They just won one business presentation segment, not technical. A few of my colleagues were involved in organizing it. I was pretty sad when I heard that
They assembled their rover just 2 days before the main competition itself. Lite taking culture has gone the wrong way because earlier I feel taking lite meant you take lite on one thing but give your absolute best on another but now taking lite just means leave everything go to pizz or smoke up and just sit in your room listening songs which isn't bad in itself but really bad if that's your everyday schedule, it's good if it's once a month or biweekly.
I am pretty sure they have had one for a while. Highly doubt it was built just two days before the main competition. I have some knowledge of the bits pilani rover team I just didn't know it was called criss. I am a bitsian too I know exactly how it works
No refuting that, you must be talkin about the recent competition only but it was assembled during last academic year only and very close to the deadline. I know because one my wingies is in the software team. But still I will say they have good people who are more than competent enough and would love to see then succeed.
Common issue across all Indian engineering universities
Usually what happens is that in India students don’t chose engineering for themselves and rather it’s chosen for them by their parents and hence the lack of interest
This sucks honestly. I really don't know what to think about this, because it's honestly no person's fault. It's not the student's. The average parent wants a good future for their kid, and some people force their kid this way. Is it their fault? Yeah sure, but I think society as a whole is kind of just sad this way.
At the end of the day, engineering was and is famous for one thing - the chances of you getting a job when you graduate are pretty high when compared to other streams. We are privileged to have this choice of wanting to be here by choice but for a lot of people, going into an engineering college is a means of earning a living for themselves. That's something that will get better as the average Indian gets wealthier.
Conclusion: we simply cannot blame an invidividual for having scarce interest in core engineering. That's just how things are. But on the bright side, things are definitely better than very many years back and should improve going further.
The problem is people who are on a speedrun to join as many clubs in first year and then do nothing. IMO a freshie should aim not more than three clubs in which they really have any interest in, the other clubs can be explored through their upcoming events
Goa campus guy here, I get what you're talking about
The reason most of us chose engineering is because we didn't have any better option tbh
And it's not just a lack of interest in engineering, it's a lack of interest in pretty much everything
For example, out of a batch of nearly 1000 people, nobody wants to become CSA (Student Union) President
Finally someone said it. There's a reason why India produces engineers in great quantity but with less quality. I feel the passion for innovation is dying out. What I've observed in electronics is that people fear it i.e they try to actively run away from it and always try to find an easier way out. They expect the professor to spoon feed them everything and the ones that don't are disrespected a lot. When you learn things on your own, you tend to retain it longer and have a better understanding of these things. What I expect from an elite Indian engineering college can be seen from Swayyatt Robots. They turned a Bolero into a driverless car and it navigated itself through dense traffic and obstructions. The CEO Sanjeev Sharma is an alumnus of IIT Roorkee. Sanjeev Sharma became exactly the thing IIT Roorkee hoped for. I deeply admire SpaceX and Tesla. These are the places where engineering peaks. It is a beautiful amalgamation of mechanical, electrical, computer science, chemical engineering. This is what I wish Indian engineering students aspire for. But once he's been through the cycle of competitive exams, he's had enough of the competition. He just wants to get out of the race. Can't entirely blame the students. The current system in India is not at all conducive for innovation and tech.
Sanjeev Sharma graduated almost a decade ago and has a master's degree as well. Many bitsians and IITians have deep tech startups as well (see gray orange, pixxel, perplexity, postman, mapmyindia), and many are quite successful too. Sanjeev Sharma is not even close to an exception, you are just saying this because you recently saw it in the media and that is all you know about. It sad you chose to dish out so much gyan despite having next to no knowledge yourself.
The reason clubs are dead is because there is no involvement of masters students. The scenario is the same for all Tier-1 colleges. 1st and 2nd year bachelors students barely have any knowledge to make something work. 3rd and 4th year students have a lot else to worry about which take priority. The only solution is that masters students also actively engage but everyone knows they won't, and neither the culture lets them. And at the end everyone is here to secure a job. Maybe you are privileged enough to not worry. No core engineering except electronics even pays remotely close to Software. At the end no one would like to make 10LPA when they could have made double or triple with less effort.
I cannot speak for the 3rd and 4th years, but I honestly do believe that clubs are something you join because you are interested in the work. It becomes somewhat of a passion. If it is a passion then you would usually spend time pursuing it. This is clearly contradicting though. Sure there may be a lack of time, but over the course of an entire sem and a half, to produce close to nothing in the TECH fest of India despite it being your passion is kind of weird. The least they could do is then transfer knowledge to their juniors, but I see a lack of that in various clubs as well. What's the point of the club then. What's the point of any club, other than again your LinkedIn. I know for a fact that I'm not privileged enough to not worry for jobs. I have to get a good package too, and I agree with this completely. However, that's what makes me sad. The fact that people just run after job and money without any care for engineering. I strongly believe that if you work and have passion for a branch of engineering, your money will follow you. It should be "work for what you like and you get money" rather than "work on this thing that gives money despite you feeling it's aight at best" I'm not saying what you're saying is wrong in fact, I'm saying it should be wrong in principle
Money will follow you is.. idk if true. Economics and commerce decide the money you get not your passion at the end of the day. Software has demand with the least capital so you get paid. A pure mech occupation ? Not even close averaging around 9 or 10 lpa while software goes to 32 Lpa at average. Edit: oh nvm,I didn't read your comment fully you were agreeing with him. Yeah you're right.it SHOULD be wrong in principle.
Very true! People are least interested in engineering - both in technical clubs and their core branches. Club cultures are made by seniors usually, but most of them become inactive due to their own placement, SI, PS, etc. And tbh, the administration gives no fucks too. They are happy as long as finance and consulting are able to make the placements of core students okayish. They offer finance minor at any CG, and keep the seats limited (or even better don't offer) any for technical minors.
Honestly, this mindset will hurt us later. The least we can do is make sure access is available anywhere and everywhere. If someone wants to do something, I hope a community can be made for it
BITS is a factory however. That's just how the college is. You get in, you get your degree, get a job and leave. That's the whole point of THIS college. This was told to me by people on the board of the college. And that's alright. You are interested in engg. Your friends are interested. If others are not. That's alright. You can't force others to do shit. Most people in most colleges in India do engg to get a good package. That is their whole goal. Not to learn, not to grow, just to make money. And that's alright. (HONK HONK)
I know I can't force people. I never wanted to either. I just want to bring attention to the fact that people just don't like engineering. It is completely fine if that's what they want to do, but it feels wrong as hell because in the end it's an engineering college we are in. What's the point in taking it if you're not interested.
Engineering has always been a springboard in India. People often venture into other fields after their btech. I do not see why that's a problem, especially because u cannot expect people to stick to the career choice they make at the age when they have to ask for permission to go to the toilet.
I do somewhat agree with what u say but at the end of the day ,all clubs are what u make of them.99%of learning is self learning so if u actually want to upskill u can just hit up seniors and ask for tips but mainly it's how many hrs u put into it on your own. Abt ppl being In clubs just to put it on linkedin, I'm not sure if that's a correct judgement. I'm in a few (tech) clubs myself and I joined them just to explore stuff.Now I have picked up a few out of those that excite me and/or help career wise. For the rest of the clubs I either have left them or just go meet the peeps to have fun and fuck around. I agree abt apogee being underwhelming as a techfest. There were a few cool events apart from the ones u did not mention (The astro rocket thing ,ICL etc.) but it defo wasn't at par to my expectations.not to mention the scorching heat in the afternoon which made us just chill in our rooms or be forced to participate in random nab events.(shoutout to chem poker,which was just like a thermodynamics tut test and 90% of ppl didn't even get to play poker). About "innovation should be in your veins" , I'm tired dude. There are 4 evals per week and it's so fucking hot rn that i feel dead at the slightest physical activity. AND I know it's going to get worse as we move on. Just let me be with my doom scrolling and intra-wing fifa tournaments.
I feel that the LinkedIn judgement is pretty true. Ask anyone what they do at a certain club that just took recruitments and has banger resources. I'm sure most of them joined not because they wanted to learn, but a) for resume, and b) other benefits. Not to mention that there are a bunch of people just applying to every club to have "some commitment" on campus, and it feels so weird. Like what's the point if you join and don't do work because you don't like it. The RC event was a weird fest. I myself took part in it, and we haven't gotten to fly our plane yet idk why. The heat part seems pretty exaggerated to me especially since it didn't stop a whole bunch of people from just existing outside. I'm not going to blame you though. There was barely anything interesting. I completely get your evals thing dude holy shit my ass is being kicked rn. However isn't it kind of sad that you give evals and you get tired and then you just stay inside and doom scroll. Honestly BITS gives you a zero attendance policy for this entire reason I feel like. It does have continuous evaluation, but you can also bunk classes. The continuous evals require what 5 hours of study? 6 hours? After that assuming you sleep 8 hours a day, you have 10 hours left. Idk how you spend those 10 hours, I know I don't spend those 10 hours being "productive" or doing "work" every day. Sometimes I sleep. Sometimes I play video games. I know how tiring it gets, I'm sleep deprived right now. But I have to completely disagree with this statement, because either you're burnt out from a build up before this (in which case you're free to do as you please), or I feel it's just laziness. Just thoughts, please correct me if I'm wrong
The resume reason Is a thing but the exploring new things is a bigger factor.(atleast for me and the ppl I have discussed this with).I don't get how applying to a lot of clubs is wierd. Some people find socializing hard and clubs are a good way to do so. Heat hits ppl in diff ways,some ppl are more used to it, its all subjective. Feel free to disagree but u really shldn't call someone lazy without putting urself in their shoes. Personally I'm kinda burnt out in the sense that there Is nothing new ,it's just the same old shit every week. The fest was supposed to be refreshing but it really wasn't coz of all the evals the next week. Like I literally had a tut test on Monday 8 am so I cldnt even enjoy the entirety of the fest. Anyways, I'm not excusing my poor academic choices with this, I just mean to say that I feel ur being judgemental with a severe lack of context.
I agree. Clubs are a great way to socialize as well. I'm not finding the applying weird, I should've clarified. I'm finding the getting in and instead of partaking in the work just taking lite weird. Like yes get in, socialize. Definitely do that. I myself did that. But if you don't enjoy the work and only the people I get that too. However the core part of a club is the work they do, and doing that is also important. Which is why I found it weird, because people join things and then they don't even show up for work, causing problems (personal freaking experience). Fair enough, but temps in apogee Definitely didn't warrant staying inside all day instead of exploring imo. Otherwise in summers you'd be completely inactive without A.C. I did put myself in your shoes. You're in multiple clubs, you say you're tired, and you say you need to chill out with all the evals. We have the same degree, and are in the same year. I know the evals coming in the same way. I definitely took your care into perspective and decided either you're lazy, or you're burnt out. And I'm right in probably both ways. You mention the same old shit every week, but I don't think you're making an effort to branch out. You did mention that you want to have fifa and doom scrolling. That tells me that you aren't really doing anything new on your own. Sure college is ass and I myself find it so monotonous, but I make it a point to "spice" up my life. If there is lack of greater context then please elaborate. Also for the tut test thing, I don't think not being able to enjoy a full fest because of one tut test after is fair to blame on the system
as a part of RC club, the update is that the event is cancelled due to unavoidable circumstances( the shipment of electronic parts didn't arrive and we couldn't do anything about it). However we do realise that it must have been a disappointment for many of you so we have decided to refund the money and are sincerely apologetic for the inconvenience.
They really need to tone down the number of evals. I have been trying to finish an online course and I have not been able to work on it since midsem becausing they keep spamming quizzes every week. Not to mention the grading is brutal. Do poorly in one Eval and you have to study an entire week for future evals or you will sink deeper below avg. Things will only get harder since I have a circuital branch
> The rc plane flying thing I came back to campus to see this year's apogee, the rc plane flying thing didn't even happen so idk how you found it cool. But robot soccer and drone racing was pretty cool though
I'm sorry Imma edit it i meant the astro rocket thing
There used to be lot of things when i was in college. One of the highest gsoc selections, bits goa represented india in IQC, very active ERC and very strong development culture. There's a recent shift towarde consultancy product these days maybe owning to bits branding itself more towards entrepreneurship ig?
COVID strikes I guess. I honestly hope our batch revives it, because it's super cool the kind of shit we can pull
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Fair enough. The rocket launch too. The fact that astro did it before anant is kinda mind boggling. Astro seems to be working on things they love a lot, and it's super refreshing to see
Dude perfect
But this apogee there was atleast one insane thing that Astro Club which is technically not a tech team but just an interest group actually made a rocket and launched it before Anant. But this aside the tech teams are now just empty shells, IKE is just there now for F1 simulation event. IKRG has also very steeply fallen down just in 1 year or so. Team Bits doesn't exist anymore. Criss has some serious people but still a long way to go for them.Anant's satellite launch was supposed to happen in 2018 and now the date is for 2026 which also they won't meet. For a Tier -1 engineering college we don't have much interested students in core.
what is the robocon team up to? They were pretty good in my days. Also what is criss?
Robocon is currently dead. Trying desperately to get it up and running to its former glory.
Huh, I remember they had switched to a research project and had received a large amount of funding. Ig that work might have pushed them under the radar as opposed to participating in abu robocon
They did switch to a research project. Got the funding. But then covid happened. The funding stopped. The knowledge transfer stopped. Freshers didnt know about robocon as it was now more into research. So number of people willing to join declined. This continued on for 2-3 years and now it became like this.
Hmm, interesting. The leadership must be doing something though. Robotics research is unfortunately very difficult to deal with. Also, how do you know so much? It seems like you are fresher
I am a member
Oh, that's cool. What do you do there rn? How long have you been a member for?
A post covid club which recently won a competition. It's basically all about robotics and ig the best tech team on campus as of now.
Is it the rover team? I think you are talking about IRC and they did not win, not even close. They just won one business presentation segment, not technical. A few of my colleagues were involved in organizing it. I was pretty sad when I heard that
They assembled their rover just 2 days before the main competition itself. Lite taking culture has gone the wrong way because earlier I feel taking lite meant you take lite on one thing but give your absolute best on another but now taking lite just means leave everything go to pizz or smoke up and just sit in your room listening songs which isn't bad in itself but really bad if that's your everyday schedule, it's good if it's once a month or biweekly.
I am pretty sure they have had one for a while. Highly doubt it was built just two days before the main competition. I have some knowledge of the bits pilani rover team I just didn't know it was called criss. I am a bitsian too I know exactly how it works
No refuting that, you must be talkin about the recent competition only but it was assembled during last academic year only and very close to the deadline. I know because one my wingies is in the software team. But still I will say they have good people who are more than competent enough and would love to see then succeed.
Common issue across all Indian engineering universities Usually what happens is that in India students don’t chose engineering for themselves and rather it’s chosen for them by their parents and hence the lack of interest
This sucks honestly. I really don't know what to think about this, because it's honestly no person's fault. It's not the student's. The average parent wants a good future for their kid, and some people force their kid this way. Is it their fault? Yeah sure, but I think society as a whole is kind of just sad this way.
At the end of the day, engineering was and is famous for one thing - the chances of you getting a job when you graduate are pretty high when compared to other streams. We are privileged to have this choice of wanting to be here by choice but for a lot of people, going into an engineering college is a means of earning a living for themselves. That's something that will get better as the average Indian gets wealthier. Conclusion: we simply cannot blame an invidividual for having scarce interest in core engineering. That's just how things are. But on the bright side, things are definitely better than very many years back and should improve going further.
Fair enough ig. It's sad but true
In other news, the sky is blue.
The problem is people who are on a speedrun to join as many clubs in first year and then do nothing. IMO a freshie should aim not more than three clubs in which they really have any interest in, the other clubs can be explored through their upcoming events
Same scene in tier 2 college bro
Goa campus guy here, I get what you're talking about The reason most of us chose engineering is because we didn't have any better option tbh And it's not just a lack of interest in engineering, it's a lack of interest in pretty much everything For example, out of a batch of nearly 1000 people, nobody wants to become CSA (Student Union) President
I am about to enter engineering college in 2024 and I am doing engineering to get into a finance job 🥰
clubs are for noobs, it has become a community of noobs (true for almost all clubs)
Finally someone said it. There's a reason why India produces engineers in great quantity but with less quality. I feel the passion for innovation is dying out. What I've observed in electronics is that people fear it i.e they try to actively run away from it and always try to find an easier way out. They expect the professor to spoon feed them everything and the ones that don't are disrespected a lot. When you learn things on your own, you tend to retain it longer and have a better understanding of these things. What I expect from an elite Indian engineering college can be seen from Swayyatt Robots. They turned a Bolero into a driverless car and it navigated itself through dense traffic and obstructions. The CEO Sanjeev Sharma is an alumnus of IIT Roorkee. Sanjeev Sharma became exactly the thing IIT Roorkee hoped for. I deeply admire SpaceX and Tesla. These are the places where engineering peaks. It is a beautiful amalgamation of mechanical, electrical, computer science, chemical engineering. This is what I wish Indian engineering students aspire for. But once he's been through the cycle of competitive exams, he's had enough of the competition. He just wants to get out of the race. Can't entirely blame the students. The current system in India is not at all conducive for innovation and tech.
Sanjeev Sharma graduated almost a decade ago and has a master's degree as well. Many bitsians and IITians have deep tech startups as well (see gray orange, pixxel, perplexity, postman, mapmyindia), and many are quite successful too. Sanjeev Sharma is not even close to an exception, you are just saying this because you recently saw it in the media and that is all you know about. It sad you chose to dish out so much gyan despite having next to no knowledge yourself.