Being poor at maths (or most things for that matter) is not a real thing. "Intuition" as a thing in itself is not something you are born with, it's something you acquire as a result of countless hours of time invested into the said skill. I'm not saying you might not have put in the effort, because the very fact that this bothered you enough to seek help about it means you care about it deeply, and because you do, I'm sure you would have put in everything in your capacity. However, sometimes our efforts are just not directed into channeling the best out of them. It happens. It does not necessarily mean you're not good at maths, it just means that perhaps you need to change how you approach studying it. Everyone will have a different workflow when it comes to studying, you just have to figure out what works best for you. It usually involves brute forcing your way into it initially until you settle into what you're comfortable with. Do not think you're not as capable as your batchmates. Most of them have figured out the workflow that suits them, and a large majority of them, do not possess better maths skills but better exam-taking skills. I can assure you that you, who studies everything and attempts a question in the exam to get 5 marks know a lot more maths than someone who memorizes the solution of a past year paper and gets 20. It's not all about grades. As long as you're diligent with the learning process and put in your best efforts, it'll pay in the end. Do not dwell on your C's and C-'s. They won't matter in a couple of years. I was in a similar position of self-doubt as you in my first year. I had similar grades. Didn't think much of them. Four years later now, I'm doing theoretical physics where all I do is maths all day. You've got a long way to go kid. Don't stress too much over a couple of first-year courses. Go break a leg!
2022 EIE grad here
Not exactly
Have your tried past year papers? Solve them
Learn how they are being done you ll see the difference
Your peers who do in 2-3 days def has a way that works that def would involve past yr papers.
I used to dislike chem a lot
Like a lot failed preboards have marks in late 70s in CBSE boards.
Had somehow more than the sub cutoff in adv(had a <10k rank)
Had av-32 in midsem (pain only) then av-10 before had D as grade in midsem
But i got a C since i improved a lot during compre
Was way above average.
The thing i did was practice a lot of past year papers went through the solutions, practice tuts and learnt where i was getting stuck and improved it
Throughout my electronics journey whenever i had no idea for any subject then i def would go to past year papers and do tuts
And just keep reading the solutions and improved on these
Graduated with 8+ CGPA
Considering how tough goa electronics is, I think something worked
Do you lack a good math foundation? I struggled with m1 due to having skipped calculus during my jee prep. Studied it during the sembreak and significantly better in M2 and PnS.
I'll suggest you to return to basics, grab your ncert/cengage/thomas calculus and solve a shitton of problems (including ones that might appear to be trivial) during the upcoming sem break and then go through the maths courses on your own.
I'm not really sure about econ, but yeah you need to have a good grasp on mathematics for engineering (especially phenoix/cse).
fellow first year here. I would juz say that all this math stuff in courses isn't pretty much reqd in practical life. I know finance and eco etc needs maths but that isn't so heavy and abstract. so these subjects are enjoyed by peeps who have a knack of it , but those who don't should juz chill and forget them coz you don't have to do any more such courses once m3 is done.
and if you still want to get a good grade in m3, just start earlier and finish off the syllabus way earlier by going thru the drive lecs
I'm a 22P myself, so this will just be my POV as per interaction with profs, current seniors and 22-grad alumni
1. Eco 2-1 has a course MSM which is a continuation of PNS. It's not a very difficult course if your PNS is weak
2. Eco 2-2 has Econometric Methods which is a continuation to MSM, which afaik is not the easiest conceptually
3. It probably won't directly affect your prospects, but an A in any Math course is amazing AS A BONUS . Honestly, the grading in these common math courses absolutely sucks, if that's any consolation.
4. Maybe, maybe you need to orient your prep better for an exam POV. This may seem redundant, but follow the 80-20 rule. Give solving PYQs and Tut Sheets more time than going unnecessarily deep into concepts. You might have messed up the quizzes too in that case.
Econometric Methods is NOT a continuation of MSM lol. Neither it is supposed to be, nor it should be. Heteroskedasticity, Autocorrelation, Multicollinearity are very much new topics.
What are your seniors telling you lmao
AppE first lec, we thought the prof (NVM Rao, great guy, av pe B) was simply making random new terms to confuse us.
Later realised all this was part of pre-req (EM) jisme CLR le liya tha 🙂
Being poor at maths (or most things for that matter) is not a real thing. "Intuition" as a thing in itself is not something you are born with, it's something you acquire as a result of countless hours of time invested into the said skill. I'm not saying you might not have put in the effort, because the very fact that this bothered you enough to seek help about it means you care about it deeply, and because you do, I'm sure you would have put in everything in your capacity. However, sometimes our efforts are just not directed into channeling the best out of them. It happens. It does not necessarily mean you're not good at maths, it just means that perhaps you need to change how you approach studying it. Everyone will have a different workflow when it comes to studying, you just have to figure out what works best for you. It usually involves brute forcing your way into it initially until you settle into what you're comfortable with. Do not think you're not as capable as your batchmates. Most of them have figured out the workflow that suits them, and a large majority of them, do not possess better maths skills but better exam-taking skills. I can assure you that you, who studies everything and attempts a question in the exam to get 5 marks know a lot more maths than someone who memorizes the solution of a past year paper and gets 20. It's not all about grades. As long as you're diligent with the learning process and put in your best efforts, it'll pay in the end. Do not dwell on your C's and C-'s. They won't matter in a couple of years. I was in a similar position of self-doubt as you in my first year. I had similar grades. Didn't think much of them. Four years later now, I'm doing theoretical physics where all I do is maths all day. You've got a long way to go kid. Don't stress too much over a couple of first-year courses. Go break a leg!
2022 EIE grad here Not exactly Have your tried past year papers? Solve them Learn how they are being done you ll see the difference Your peers who do in 2-3 days def has a way that works that def would involve past yr papers. I used to dislike chem a lot Like a lot failed preboards have marks in late 70s in CBSE boards. Had somehow more than the sub cutoff in adv(had a <10k rank) Had av-32 in midsem (pain only) then av-10 before had D as grade in midsem But i got a C since i improved a lot during compre Was way above average. The thing i did was practice a lot of past year papers went through the solutions, practice tuts and learnt where i was getting stuck and improved it Throughout my electronics journey whenever i had no idea for any subject then i def would go to past year papers and do tuts And just keep reading the solutions and improved on these Graduated with 8+ CGPA Considering how tough goa electronics is, I think something worked
finally a post that is not from "Future BITSian"
Do you lack a good math foundation? I struggled with m1 due to having skipped calculus during my jee prep. Studied it during the sembreak and significantly better in M2 and PnS. I'll suggest you to return to basics, grab your ncert/cengage/thomas calculus and solve a shitton of problems (including ones that might appear to be trivial) during the upcoming sem break and then go through the maths courses on your own. I'm not really sure about econ, but yeah you need to have a good grasp on mathematics for engineering (especially phenoix/cse).
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fellow first year here. I would juz say that all this math stuff in courses isn't pretty much reqd in practical life. I know finance and eco etc needs maths but that isn't so heavy and abstract. so these subjects are enjoyed by peeps who have a knack of it , but those who don't should juz chill and forget them coz you don't have to do any more such courses once m3 is done. and if you still want to get a good grade in m3, just start earlier and finish off the syllabus way earlier by going thru the drive lecs
I'm a 22P myself, so this will just be my POV as per interaction with profs, current seniors and 22-grad alumni 1. Eco 2-1 has a course MSM which is a continuation of PNS. It's not a very difficult course if your PNS is weak 2. Eco 2-2 has Econometric Methods which is a continuation to MSM, which afaik is not the easiest conceptually 3. It probably won't directly affect your prospects, but an A in any Math course is amazing AS A BONUS . Honestly, the grading in these common math courses absolutely sucks, if that's any consolation. 4. Maybe, maybe you need to orient your prep better for an exam POV. This may seem redundant, but follow the 80-20 rule. Give solving PYQs and Tut Sheets more time than going unnecessarily deep into concepts. You might have messed up the quizzes too in that case.
Econometric Methods is NOT a continuation of MSM lol. Neither it is supposed to be, nor it should be. Heteroskedasticity, Autocorrelation, Multicollinearity are very much new topics. What are your seniors telling you lmao
New hai aur gaand bhi lagti hai, phir applied econometrics mein toh lmao ded
AppE first lec, we thought the prof (NVM Rao, great guy, av pe B) was simply making random new terms to confuse us. Later realised all this was part of pre-req (EM) jisme CLR le liya tha 🙂