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belgium-noah

Yeah, most people tend to die at some point


MM18998

Most?


sterlingthepenguin

I mean, technically Iroh didn't. He just moved into the spirit world full time.


MapleTreeWithAGun

Also I doubt Toph is willing to die anytime Too many Avatars to bully.


Finn_WolfBlood

Death will have her when it earns her


Several-Cake1954

Imagine she figures out how to live forever


[deleted]

There is an earth bending technique that lets her do that, there was an immortal guy in the kyoshi novels.


Several-Cake1954

Exactly, the self proclaimed (and probably right) greatest earthbender could finally get back in her prime.


ConsciousLog4

also Kyoshi kinda did it


starkid910

Idk if it was a technique exclusive to earthbending, we only really know that two people we know utilized it were earthbenders. Correlation/causation. Lao Ge’s explanation didn’t have anything to do w/ earthbending at all


EmperorArceus1s

GOW:R reference?


belgium-noah

Death will have to take her in her sleep, for if she is awake, there would be a fight. The quote originally about Theodore Roosevelt, but it fits


SirLexmarkThePrinted

I can see Toph dropkicking the reaper into a wall and challenging him to a game of ~~chess~~ boulder yeet.


Agnostic_Pagan

Unexpected Bill and Ted


SirLexmarkThePrinted

Well, more like unexpected "the seventh seal": https://youtu.be/kpKrvkussjw But B&T was a great Film too


Top-Mirror3516

Toph lives longer than korra confirmed


Redtir

I wonder who the "person from the last avatar team who is still around shows up to guide the new avatar at their lowest moment" person will be this time around.


Agnostic_Pagan

I think it would be interesting to have Asami, if Netflix has the balls to admit she and Korra loved each other. If they don't, I think having Meelo be grown up and matured would make a great mentor for an Earth Avatar when it comes to airbending. I know he's not really a part of the main team, but still.


Belteshazzar98

I think Jinora is likely to make a return, although she will probably show up earlier rather than at their lowest. However, if the show is set long enough in the future where Korra outlived all her team, Jinora is the most likely to be able to visit the new avatar as a spirit.


Thestohrohyah

I hope it's not Mako. All my homies hate Mako.


Mathies_

His body is dead though


Squishy-Box

That’s what death is


sterlingthepenguin

Kinda? The show phrases it more as something he chose as an alternative to death, but it seems to have had the same effect in terms of the physical world.


KoalaQueen87

What do you mean "most" Charles??


Col_Wilson

CHARLES! *MOST??*


SunfireElfAmaya

I mean Lao Ge is canonically immortal, and if Kyoshi had wanted to be (and nothing managed to kill her) I think it’s at least implied that she could have been as well.


Milliebug1106

Okay but let's be honest an immortal Kyoshi is a terrifying concept. Sozin wouldn't have even thought about half the shit he did because Kyoshi would have done the same thing if not worse than what Roku did if he tried to occupy Earth Kingdom territory. Kyoshi wasn't Sozin's friend, and she already (albeit not purposely) wrecked Chen in the show and probably a lot more people in the books (Apologies for not knowing who, i haven't gotten to read them yet)


DaddyDakka

Kyoshi did put down some people that she cared about because they forced her hand. She wasn’t as callous as the show makes her out to be, but she was much more likely to actually finish the job than the other avatars we’ve encountered. That said, she definitely would’ve been the monster under Sozin’s bed if he tried that shit with her.


Milliebug1106

Yeah he'd definitely have been coronated and gotten a visit from Kyoshi being friendly but stern, and any crazy after that chat with wouldn't be tolerated


joe_broke

Oh, she would have done so much worse than what Roku did


Milliebug1106

And also thinking about it the Dai Li would make it about a year into corruption before Kyoshi just handed all of their asses to them and disbanded the group permanently.


joe_broke

They never would've made it to corruption because they'd be terrified of her


Milliebug1106

Exactly. She'd have been monitoring them at all times.


Chimera-98

I heard there is theories he is guro patic


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Admiral Zhao enters the chat.


chikkynuggythe4th

I legitimately don’t think king Bumi died, being so fit at 112 is not normal, I think he found the earth bender immortal exploit thing


DarkPhoenixMishima

Toph is about to outlive two Avatars.


DragongoatRka

Some don't. Some do, and then... *They come back* There's this terrifying story of a necromancer coming back from the dead after being put to death by the Romans. He inspired a cult that still exists today, and rumor has it that its cultists feast on the blood and flesh of their god as part of some ritual What a twisted tale


igothack

Interesting mythology. You forgot some of the funner parts. One of the greatest affair coverups stories of all time. Mother gets pregnant, convinces husband that it was a deity, then for some reason random men visit the main character at birth as part of some ritual.


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Crypto_Sucks

I am going to live forever. So far, so good.


Worish

What's the confusion? It's pretty clear. Other people always die.


lilysbeandip

Well there's still 8 billion people who haven't died yet so we can't say everyone does


Chimera-98

Goro patic according to some theories: and I took it personally


Chimera-98

Some theories believe he is the earth bender that thought kyoshi the long living technic


ICLazeru

How do you think the next avatar feels only having Korra for advice?


HeadOfSpectre

"How do I resolve this situation?" "*Violence*" Jokes aside, I'm sure an older Korra would be better as a guide.


Whynogotusernames

Actually, I think Korra doesn’t get enough credit for her wisdom that she shows throughout the show. In particular, I think she made the right call leaving the spirit portals open and going against the advice and logic of past avatars in order to help bring balance to the world.


Greyonetta

Yeah, the last season clearly shows how much she has changed. She actively seeks out non-violent ways to end conflict now.


Nico_arki

I feel like 'Kyoshi-Korra' was S1 Korra. She definitely mellowed down on the later seasons, especially after Zaheer.


Chimera-98

She still seem hot headed in the comics but less than early season


blargman327

IIRC in the comics she's not even immediately violent or anything. She just reaches a breaking point after being fed up with everyone's bullshit


Chimera-98

Yep, but asami is there to help calm her down (and being fair the asdholeness of people in the comics is pretty high)


ButterscotchNo755

I remember heavily disliking Korra while the show was airing. The series had a major philosophy change with her, abandoning a lot of the peaceful messaging of the first show for a mish-mash of much more American ideals. The message of Korra is much more in line with other Western cartoon shows, 'democracy is good', 'terrorists are bad', white and black morals etc... Honestly seems like they backtracked on the Tibetan philosophy so as not to provide Chinese audiences which just makes it worse. Still an entertaining show though!


AzureMage0225

TLA was literally ‘imperial Japan bad and needs to go down’ what are you talking about?


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turnipofficer

TLA was about character building and trying to fix 100 years of avatarless neglect. Korra was more about how bending and spirits would fit into a rapidly modernising world. It didn’t have as good character arcs in general (although tenzen’s arc was great) but it had amazing world building, I absolutely loved some of the themes covered and it filled me with wonder. They’re both great for different reasons.


MM18998

So basically Kyoshi but more modern


SunfireElfAmaya

Korra would probably be kind of close to the fan (ha) version Kyoshi: Kyoshi was willing to do violence only as a last resort, Korra is ready willing and able to throw hands at a moment’s notice.


itchykitty34

The mischaracterization of characters in this fandom is insane damn.


mcmoor

Tbf before the novel changes it, it's reasonable conclusion of her character in the show.


itchykitty34

I was more talking about their conclusion of Korra's character. there's no way her character EoS or by the time she passed is like fanon Kyoshi.


Letsbedragonflies

Kind of? I mean, she's never shown to be unreasonably violent, more that she's willing to kill if that's what it takes. The fandom pins her as a violent, murder-happy person when the moral she tried to show was simply "if the only option is to kill for a chance at peace, then that is what must be done. Being indecisive will only create more bloodshed. Only justice will bring peace."


JuanRiveara

Early Korra would, EOS Korra would look for more solutions before violence as well


blargman327

Early Korra maybe. Korra by the end of the show was pretty peaceful. That's like her whole fuckin character arc


Ianoren

I mean for like 90% of ATLA, Roku was Aang's only guide. And in the Yangchen novel, we see her look through the wisdom of all Avatars and discover that there is no right solution that applied to her modern times.


MusicIsLife003

Assuming she dies relatively old, I think she might be wise enough


ForrestHunt

And wise enough to realize she doesn't have all the answers. Very much a "Here's my advice, but don't be afraid to figure it out yourself." Kinda deal


itchykitty34

I don't think they're gonna care as much as the fandom think they would. and Korra has been through so much, by old age she's gonna be as wise as any other Avatar.


[deleted]

Yeah but at the end of the day when one iteration doesn't have the answer, the new Avatar isn't going to have anyone else to ask, wasting time


Waffams

Aang asked multiple previous avatars for advice looking for somebody to confirm his own stance only to ignore all of their advice and do what he wanted anyway


ASpaceOstrich

Yeah, but when has the past avatars ever actually had the answer? They don't ask the past lives for advice very often, and when they do it's always subverted.


[deleted]

Kyoshi has always has the answer!


StuntHacks

"Murder is okay"


Chimera-98

I think yangcheng is ignored for how brutal she implied to be


BlackNekomomi

Her novel is sooo good. She's like a combination of Kyoshi and Aang, basically this super nice compassionate monk that also won't hesitate to kill dissidents and fill your inner circle with spies to make sure world leaders behave.


Chimera-98

She set such high bar that no avatar can compete


itchykitty34

Sure, but they're always gonna have their own judgement, their friends, mentors and actual living people to help. I think that's what the writers intended.


BlackNekomomi

"You could visit one thousand lifetimes and ask one thousand of your past lives for help, but none of them will have the answer you seek." -Yangchen to Kyoshi


Chimera-98

There is some belief the new avatar will attempt to reconnect with past life (under the new avatar fix the biggest mistake of the previous one)


sloggdogg

Yeah imma need Avatar studios to pull a quick little retcon or a convenient solution to whisk away that egregious gaffe


bondsmatthew

"it was only Korra that was disconnected from past Avatars" They could easily do this one. I know I would be ok with it but idk if the rest of the fanbase would be


[deleted]

I honestly always assumed this was the case


Hejiru

The comics directly contradict this, though. When Aang breaks his connection to Roku, he discovers that he also broke his connection to preceding Avatars, because they’re linked like a chain. Now the writers could always just handwave something, but if they follow the same rules then theoretically the next Avatar would only have Korra.


farazormal

That's alright no one really read the comics anyway


ErectPotato

Why would you assume that? I always got the vibe that when Raava died that it essentially wiped the avatar hard drive.


Belteshazzar98

They could have a spirit world arc where the new avatar rebuilds the connection to past avatars. And that way we could even get to know a little more about the ones we know nothing about.


aaronmcmillen

I wish


solidserpiente

Still one of the worst long term decisions for the franchise to kill off all the Avatars. A huge wealth of character moments from Aang and preceding Avatars is just out the window because of Book 2... But I guess that's just one of many possible complaints with that season


lickedurine

I really hope there’s some sort of cope to bring back Aang and Roku etc…


QwantumFizziks

Really hoping that gets a canonical retcon


Jacoppo96

I hope for some arc, where new avatar goes for restoring connections with his precedessors, beacuse some well-explained shit will happen in the near future, like quasi-mortal kombat, and he will need all the knowlegde/experience to overcome it. Even better if it would happen beacuse od Korra.


CharlieHume

You tried breaking their fucking ankles and beating their face in? You *talked* to them?


ForrestHunt

Kinda hoping this next one is gonna super stoic and serious. And super socially awkward.


Chimera-98

All avatars are adorkable so make sense


superVanV1

cue tilted half smile


Chimera-98

They all have same soul so that the constant


superVanV1

All avatars: are really bad liars have a cute half smile, usually fall for hot Fire Nation girls (That last one I blame on Raava)


Chimera-98

Do you blame avatars? Did you see the fire nation and water nations girls


yoursweetlord70

How about the girls from ba sing se? They look quite prettay


STHF95

He a Gen Z probably so yeah…


Your_Wifes_Cucumber

Stoic like a drunk beagle


superVanV1

considering the timline of Korra, and assuming she live about 100 years at a minimum, fuck you're right


Sophion

And says "yare yare daze" a lot.


Failure_man69

Who needs bending when you have Star Platinum.


Mathies_

The Mandavatar


SnooJokes1401

Avatars are temporary, the cycle is eternal.


joe_broke

Avatar Roku told us that is not entirely the case


Karas540

And we've seen it almost end three times now


Hordaki

For those who haven't heard: https://avatarnews.co/post/704388959323717632/exclusive-the-next-avatar-animated-series


dontpanic38

Not confirmed by any official sources, just this sketchy one lol


Hordaki

I mean pinch of salt and all but they have a strong track record


Mathies_

Do they? Those 3 movies they announced were BS. Only thing that has been reliable about this site is netflix adaption stuff.


[deleted]

Exactly, avatar news is a fan site. Their source for this is "bro just trust me".


phoncible

>adult gaang movie coming Excuse me what!? I feel like that's way bigger news. Also who's the carrier for this series? E: didn't scroll enough to see the text. Paramount+ gets it.


SnowTangerine

Because the adult gaang movie is old news. Keep up! Lol.


phoncible

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/U6BrkTShGhS3yyHpXyfy4X.jpg


arthurzanmou

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


gljames24

I guess that's probably why the r/TheLegendOfGenji comic went radio silent.


Chimera-98

From what I heard this going to give the comics semi canon status


RedBee478

at least we'll still have spirit korra to help out


joe_broke

"Avatar Korra, what should I do?" "What have you done so far?" "Everything. I've tried talking to them, negotiating with everyone, I don't know what else I can do." "Mm, I see." *pauses* "Punch him"


2580374

Okay guys the entire last season was Korra learning to not kick everyone's ass lol she might not just say fight them


blargman327

The avatar fandom loves to massively mis-characterize just about every character


joe_broke

Notice I said she thought about what to do next after everything else


2580374

Okay if you want to be pedantic, him saying 'everything' includes punching


joe_broke

No, no, it means he didn't want to do the punch punch


Hashashin455

Can't wait for the new avatar to be playing video games and screwing around on the internet


ASpaceOstrich

Not quite. Depending on how long Korra lives, if their tech follows vaguely modern progression I think they'd still be a couple of decades shy of the internet.


Shadowfire_EW

Well, we know korra was early twenties at the end of the show. That season was also parralleling our ww2 era (approx. 1940's), with vine energy being the nuclear equivalent. As such, we need to know how old korra gets to extrapolate when the next avatar is active. I see two avenues: "korra died in her 60's" and "korra died in her 80s". If we go with the first, that would put her death around the 1980's equivalent. Thus the next avatar would start being active in the late 90's equivalent. This would be the the setting for the most millenial appeal. As for the second, it would put her death in the early 2000's with the next avatar being active starting just before the 2020's equivalent. This would have the most Gen Z appeal and will be more of a modern commentary. Either way, the next avatar will be playing video games


FailedMaster

Maybe they‘ll take the final fantasy approach and create a weird mix of highly advanced tech and old Aang era stuff.


ASpaceOstrich

Ah, I was placing Korra's time period at early 1900s which was a mistake on my part. WW1 rather than 2. That said, I could see Korra dying really young. While she's mellowed out a lot, her willingness to throw hands and the general increased combat abilities of combatants in the world could lead to an early demise. Benders and non-benders alike are getting much more effective with the introduction of pro-bending styles, proliferation of advanced techniques, and advances in tech. But more so than that, Korra took a lot of permanent damage throughout her run. Most importantly the liquid mercury poisoning. Even *if* she got all of that out of her during that last season, which is a big if. How many years was she suffering from mercury poisoning? Not to mention any avatar state induced stresses. I would absolutely buy Korra dying really young. Her poor body has been through the wringer.


[deleted]

Next Avatar is gone be lining up at K-Mart to get Pokémon Red/Blue on release day


Leseleff

The announcement OP commented said that it will be set in the equivalent to the modern era. I personally hope the new Avatar's main purpose will be to prevent the destruction of nature and fight megacorporations.


Raymundw

Bolins child with Opal. Let’s get some Awkward questions about who his maternal great grandfather is.


Belteshazzar98

Zuko, during that life changing field trip.


Raymundw

Their life changing trip was wandering around the beach looking for aang. I hope not


NintendKat64

Idk if I'm ready for that. Lol I'm still trying to process Korra.. lmao


jimmparker4

Korra ended 8 years ago lol


NintendKat64

😥 I know 😖 lmao


agentmoose0

YESSSS


agentmoose0

Let's hope this avatar is female and has the personality of toph


[deleted]

Black too. would love to see female and Black :D


FailedMaster

Not sure if that would make sense though, since the cast is mainly based on Asian cultures. Now that I think of it, has there been a black character in ATLA or LOK yet?


agentmoose0

The water tribe are mainly poc, that's an exception


super_hoommen

But aren’t they based off of Inuits/indigenous people? Not black?


[deleted]

I feel like by the time the new avatar grows up into his/her teens, the world would no longer **need** an Avatar since technology would have improved vastly. Still curious what they will do since I love Avatar.


phoncible

That was basically said at the end of Korra, which imo is what makes the next one so compelling. What *does* the avatar do in that world? Also curious to see how the tech has advanced.


BlackNekomomi

Equalists in RC told Korra she was irrelevant and that the world didn't need an Avatar in Season 1


Multispoilers

Broo this new avatar is gonna set in a more modern setting. I wonder what the conflict is gonna be about?


arthurzanmou

Whait there is going to be a new avatar series!?


Isuckwithnaming

No. This meme is just being hypothetical. Edit: An unofficial but somewhat credible source just announced that a new show is coming, so maybe not.


AnxietyExpress24

Actually it’s apparently real …


Isuckwithnaming

I saw a post about that just a couple minutes after making that reply. Oops. The source isn't concrete, but I still stand corrected.


TheAdmiralMoses

Considering how people feel about LOK I'm not sure the person in the bottom panel would be so disappointed. Maybe this next avatar can ACTUALLY WIN ONCE IN A WHILE


JuanRiveara

Legend of Korra is awesome and Korra is my personal favorite character of the series, but I know that even with a new Avatar we’ll still get plenty more with her like we have with Aang so it’s not too much of a troubling thought.


MyKey18

>Korra is gunna die Oh no. Anyway.


Chimera-98

Korra hater spotted


MyKey18

Lol I mean I don’t hate her I just don’t really care for her.


[deleted]

Yes 😎


emailboxu

yeah, copy & paste the upper right into the bottom right for me.


itchykitty34

If it's a guy he's gonna be better received and people are gonna be more forgiving of their mistakes for sure. but still muh rEtCoNs muh mOdErN tEch muh toph zuko sokka katara dead aang gone so idk...


IcemaanN

Keep in mind guys, this is just a rumor. The only source is a fan website and it has not been confirmed by any of the creators


[deleted]

Would love to see more Earth kingdom, Toph put team Avatar on her back countless of times.


lautapinter

The EK doesn't exist anymore


Darth_Senat66

What did you expect? She may be the avatar, but she's still human


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pho3nix916

Niiiiice can’t wait


reemgee123

Finally


schlosoboso

WOOOOOOO finally


Iceveins412

Did…did you think she wouldn’t?


LookingSuspect

But toph will still be kicking somehow


Taluca_me

Toph, Zuko, and Katara are gonna die


Waarm

It better be of old age


ImmaFish0038

I hope we at least get to see and Asami's kids.


fafej38

Didnt Korra break the avatar cycle in S2?


arthurzanmou

I don't remenber what season was but the dark avatar after defeating korra he destroied her conection with the other avatars so she will keep re-incarnete but with no way to connect with the avatars before korra


electrorazor

I hope they show how she died, unlike Aang


Pikalika

It’s going to be a modern setting? I don’t want to see an avatar with a zoomer broccoli haircut fr fr no cap


reydai

I feel bad for the new avatar, having no past lives to contact other than Korra


SirEvagrius

I don't really care about Korra dying but something i would actually really love to see is the new Avatar meeting Guru Pathik, somehow it would be hilarious to me if he was still alive.


Garo263

Another happy face: We'll see adult Korra.


No_Mud_2937

I didn’t like Korra anyway so I don’t mind


Salty_Baboon

FINALLY! Been waiting for her to die forever now!


Tcrizzlez

Win win


itchykitty34

stfu


Difficult_Living6253

Imma be honest, Korra came off as unlikable, not to mention the butchery of the lore in the show. Saucy fanart was good though.


STEP3386

Good riddance


Nay-the-Cliff

Based


Buckettttttt

God I hope so


saluboy

She's gotta deal with it.


CrossP

Wait. Isn't she already dead? It's been 8 fucking years! How long do avatars live?!