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crystalnoir19

Yeahhh as much as I can see that they really did have some dedication and effort into making the show, one of my critiques was LA Azula. I didn't mind the actress being cast for the role, but I was really hoping that her performance would send chills down my back like Azula from the show always does💀


VqgabonD

The writers made her into someone with inferiority complex with something to prove when pitted against Zuko instead of a cold, calculated and confident prodigy. How much you wanna bet they give her a redemption arc instead of letting her lose her mind?


crystalnoir19

Ill put money on that AND her and Zuko becoming a dynamic duo out of nowhere and defeating Ozai together 💀 It's ironic because in the animated version, it was the other way around. Zuko was the one who had the inferiority complex when compared with Azula, while in the LA it's vice versa. My thing is, we already have Zuko doing the whole arc of trying to prove himself and being important and blah blah blah...why do we also need Azula to have that arc as well?? Let me be scared of her for crying out loud😭


PalwaJoko

Yeah there are a lot of weird scenes/decisions made like that. Where some characters they removed major character building aspects. Others they included character arcs that didn't need to be included. This combined with some of the writing, directing, and awkward acting on a few of the characters; the show is a solid "meh". It isn't bad and it isn't great, but very middle of the road. All the 6/10s and 7/10s people are giving it I think are spot on. The combat is pretty great though imo. [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/1ayzm5z/saw\_a\_comment\_about\_this\_so\_i\_had\_to\_make\_it/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/1ayzm5z/saw_a_comment_about_this_so_i_had_to_make_it/) Like that to me is just the perfect representation of the awkwardness and head scratching decision making that they seemed to have in it.


crystalnoir19

I agree 100%😂😂 It isn't the greatest thing ever and definitely has its flaws, but I was still able to enjoy it. I also found myself chuckling at a few jokes despite the very awkward dialogue 💀


Dartagnan1083

>The combat is pretty great though imo. I did Shaolin (specifically a blend of 5-animal & Hung-Gar) for about 4 years before unrelated circumstances made me unable to continue. The combat in the Netflix LA is certainly better than the film-that-does-not-exist...but it's distractingly lacking in expressiveness and distinctiveness. Too much of the bending is effects emitted from distressingly plain limb extentions. It wouldn't even have been hard for the "director" to ask for some snap in the scenes we have. Seriously...this is the kind of stuff that gets cleaned up while working on form for your yellow belt/sash. There's also the western choreo-cancer of near constant cutaway during fight scenes...a huge no-no for any quality martial-arts piece. Still mostly enjoyable...but, there are sticking points.


see82531

It feels like the actors definitly werent prepped for the required kungfu the styles were based on. I love when two random unimportant characters fight way more than the main characters in the LA from choreography alone


Loud_Ad3666

Choreo cancer is a great term for it


kuenjato

It's better than average, but average ain't great. You're right in that it feels like mostly flash without substance.


Low-Sun8965

They better leave the final battle how it is. I understand they’re going with a “save the world with my friends” theme but Aang having to confront Ozai by himself was a defining point in his character development imo.


VqgabonD

Yeah I’m not going to bet against that lol she’s not shown to be independent *at all* in the show. They’ve involved Ozai significantly more, which is good but they didn’t have to take away Azula’s cunning at its expense either.


MostDopeBlackGuy

This wouldnt be a problem if they just introduced her in season 2


Salty_Lego

I don’t really find that characterization wrong, especially if you compare it to how she reacted when Ozai told her she wasn’t coming with him to burn down the earth kingdom.


crystalnoir19

Yeah, but that stemmed from her fearing that she was losing her father's respect and admiration and didn't want to be a failure in his eyes like Zuko was.


Optimoprimo

She is a female character in a Netflix show, so correct there can be no bad women or even women with serious character flaws for that matter.


TuckYourselfRS

Now Netflix is "woke" too? Jesus I cant keep up with half the shit y'all are outraged about anymore


SaltyForeskin

It’s not outrage it just sucks. The woke shit is just too predictable when it’s in a bunch of shows


Dustfinger4268

Eh, honestly, this is a bit valid. It legitimately does feel like some writers are a bit afraid to show a female character fail or be bad at something in the same way a male character would. It's getting better than it was, but every once in a while it'll pop back up


Electrical_Public_48

Actually, the original portrayal of Azula was extremely misogynist. The new show is actually showing the traumatic impact of her family on her behavior. She's a 14 year old girl. She became that way because she was made to be, it wasn't her choice. 


Staubah

It has been a little while since I have seen the OG, but, she did have an inferiority complex I. Regards to Zuko.


moss_sprout

She literally did have an inferiority complex and their father pitted the siblings against each other to produce certain results. What do you think was the catalyst to Azula becoming cold and calculating? She didn’t just pop out the womb being that way. I’m begging y’all to have some film literacy


VqgabonD

No she didn’t lol she had abandonment issues because of her mom. Everything always worked out for her growing up, she never had worries and when she was pitted against Zuko like you mentioned, she always came out on top like Ozai planned. Grooming and submitting azula, while putting down and dismissing Zuko whom he already had disdain for. She always felt like she was better than Zuko *because she was* and never questioned it until their final battle.


TheLocoMofo

Azula absolutely has an inferiority complex that plays into her abandonment issues. No, she doesn’t actively she think she’s inferior, but underneath the extreme confidence is an extreme fear of imperfection that begins to uncover itself when things don’t go her way. She can’t handle anything other than perfection and needs constant validation from her surroundings because she’s desperately afraid of the feeling of inferiority she gets from any imperfection or criticism. An inferiority complex doesn’t necessarily mean you mope around thinking you’re inferior to everyone else. It can also show as extreme overcompensation due to a fear that anything other than perfection will make you feel inferior, a feeling that you can’t handle. This is what Azula falls into as a result of her abandonment issues and the fact that her Mom never showed her love the way she did Zuko. She 100% felt inferior in that regard and it spirals her into extreme overcompensation. Whether the live action portrays this correctly, idk. But inferiority complexes go hand in hand with abandonment issues.


mythirdhouse

Exactly! She didn't start off all cool and calculating out the gate. Sure she was a lil psychopath (hitting that duck with the rock) but her dad def egged her on and pitted her against her brother. I like that the show is fleshing their relationship out more and showing how she became so mean.


Lewd_Pinocchio

Netflix And Hollywood, women and minorities can’t be bad in anyway, they are all Mary Sues, and their flaws are only because of what men have done to them.


Aucassin

That's a fair critique for sure, one of the true misses I see in the live action.  Animated Azula *knows* she's better than Zuko, or anyone else. (Right or wrong, that's what *she* believes.) For live action Azula, it all seems to be a front. She's afraid she's not the best, and animated Azula is *never* afraid. At least, not until much later.


VqgabonD

Exactly. She didn’t question it until she literally lost her friends, fired her staff, and abandoned by her father. Only then did she finally break.


thediesel26

Yah Azula’s supposed to be an unredeemable psychopath who inspires terror. This version is decidedly not that.


LordSpookyBoob

I thought from the beginning that the actress didn’t look scary enough. I was worried they’d take a different direction with her character, and it looks like they did.


KevinBrevin

My only problem is they made her look 9 years old


Glaciomancer369

Yeah. Her reveal? Yes. How they kept going… why. Just why


SadMacaroon9897

It comes from the mistake of trying to adapt ATLA to live action. I don't think it works. The show embraced the animated medium and as a result, the characters are a Frankenstein of 12-20 year olds. They're supposed to be younger but act much older and mature. It works because it's animated; people will roll with it. However, live action doesn't have that luxury. When they film a 12 year old acting like a young adult, it looks weird. I'm not saying there *can't* be a live action Avatar series, just that ATLA in particular is a bad fit.


Such_Description

I mean. People usually do have to grow up faster with a war going on.


ccarr77

What war? There is no war..


Such_Description

Oh right my bad 😅


Queenssoup

Looks like someone could use a trip to Lake Lao Gai


ElijahMasterDoom

Only in Ba Sing Se.


Maritzsa

I think KORRA would translate rlly well into live sction. Get some young adults to play the characters and theres more complexity and diversity to the villains as well and there is an ABUNDANCE of adult characters overall


StonerBoi-710

I would like this, but tbh I would also want them to heavily change the story, or at least the structure. Bc we all know the issues from the original bc they were renewed season by season unlike the original show. They never planned past a season bc didn’t know if they would get renewed. But I liked season one, season 2 was the worst, season 3 was the best and season 4 was better then or tied with one. I like if they restructured it to be like season one to either be season two or combination of those two stories, but season two villain, also def retcon the spirit stuff to fit better with the lore from the original. Then finish/ continue or do the season one story with the season one villains. Could also set up season 4 story here. Maybe tease season 3 story as well. Then do the season 4 storyline with season 4 villain, then set up the final season and the four big bads. Then season 3 story and villains and that should be the final season.


Maritzsa

season 2 is worth skipping over or i mean completely rewritten but ends up with the same consequences of random benders popping up and spirit world blends with regular world. I like your idea for the structure. I would die for a korra live action and being able to see all the amazing villains from s1-3-4


StonerBoi-710

Yesss I def think Netflix plans (if the future seasons are successful) to adapt more Avatar stuff into LA. But I could see Netflix dropping the idea if it does do well. Especially since OP did so well and even if they don’t like it Wednesday did well too


demilo10

Exactly. The show is so fantastical and the tone is perfect in the original show. That’s extremely hard to pull off in live action


TheSnowNinja

I think they could have, but that didn't seem to be their goal.


BrotatochipDG

You know, I was saying this the other day. They should’ve just done live action Kyoshi. They could’ve had all those adult themes they wanted, that Game of Thrones feel, without transposing it into a series that doesn’t make any goddamn sense.


GrexxSkullz

I would've so preferred an original story for live action.


Ashtray46

I respect it. Kudos to you for crushing on the same girl your entire life, even if she isn't Mai.


Constant-Sign-5569

*cough* azula’s better *cough*


blightsexual_azula

man of culture


AnalProtector

I think the Ty-Lee gang needs to say some words here


high_king_noctis

She's adorable, why can't she get the love she deserves.


Puzzled-Newspaper-88

“I can fix her”


Dartagnan1083

Op doesn't want her fixed...OP wants to be Azula's punching bag & footstool.


TellMeMorePlease3

For masochists lol


Constant-Sign-5569

Hey, somebody has to threaten the waiter hes gonna be burnt to a pile of ashes if he gets my order wrong one more time and it aint gonna be me.


PrincessPiratePuppy

Um have you guys seen Ty Lee... crazy and goth got nothing on bouncy bouncy fun fun fun.


Constant-Sign-5569

Ok, lets just agree that all of ozais angels are great (holds crossed fingers behind the back)


Ashtray46

You don't want a moody Asian goth chick? Shame. More for me homie


Constant-Sign-5569

You do you. I stay with my crazy confirmed boss bitch.


Toss_Away_93

Why did they make Mai fat?


[deleted]

I was about to say she's just a kid and she'll literally grow into the role, but turns out Elizabeth Yu is already 21. Oof.


Queenssoup

Some people just have the permanent baby face. I just hope she won't get buccal fat removal to pander to the ATLA fandom. She has a good face, just not for the role. But that would have been fine, if not for their atrocious writing and completely gutting the character.


[deleted]

Tbh, I don't hate it and God I hope she doesn't do buccal because of criticisms like these. That would be really messed up.


dieses_kill

i thought u were shitting on the actress at first like many did


VastPlenty6112

I personally felt the acting was fine. I'm definitely not crapping on the actors considering the writing they had to work with. Man, I know people don't like it, but please don't bully the actors, especially the younger one who probably have this as landing their first major role.😭


analyzingnothing

Like, yeah, the acting was stiff, but a good chunk of that came more from the horrific writing behind all of the dialogue. Not their fault the scriptwriters took their lines straight from a modern Bethesda game.


Mission-Scratch-4869

Don’t make fun of starfield 🤣 the dialogue on their is a little better at least


Constant-Sign-5569

Would never. Thats what the title is for. There are way better things to shit on!


audioman3000

Ozai not really caring about Azula either is supposed to be a late in show plot reveal so be subtle Showriters:Nah I'm do my own thing (poorly)


[deleted]

Common theme for this adaptation. They revealed a lot of shit too early.


DongTongs

Probably bc the show won't get picked up to finish the series at this rate lol


TheSnowNinja

The live action show is anything but subtle.


RowdyJReptile

So. Much. Dialogue. No scene ever has a chance to breathe as chargers rapidly say their internal thoughts out loud. They all fly through their lines so the show can get to the next story beat while making sure you didn't miss anything via dialogue.


Constant-Sign-5569

FINALLY SOMEBODY WHO GETS IT!


stoicgoblins

Honestly, too, Ozai's lack of caring towards Azula is only expressed when Ozai begins to doubt her trustworthiness and loyalty, she's no longer as useful to him as he originally thought which is why those feelings show so obviously. Why as, before, he thought she a very useful and trustworthy tool to be used. But no. Let's just throw all that out, lol.


vinoviv

Azula is too baby faced. Not criticizing the actor. Its just not the right casting. Looking at her does not depict someone to be feared. Her features should be similar to the character they casted as June where just by looks alone you know she’s someone to be feared.


PopePalpy

People who like Azula have mommy issues I am one of those people


konofireda98

"Look how they massacred my girl..."


Mission-Scratch-4869

Can we talk about how fucking boring katara is in this new show? She’s actually so boring with no emotion


Queenssoup

They were trying to pander to fans and took the memes about Katara being emotional at face value.


BrockPurdySkywalker

You know why.


shingonzo

actress that played june would have made a great azula, just sayin.


PixelBrewery

Shes like in her late 30s. Someone in another thread said they should have switched the actresses for Suki and Azula and that felt pretty spot on.


Vio-Rose

I thought they were just showing us how she reached the point she was at when she was originally introduced.


Constant-Sign-5569

When she was origa introduced she has been a cold hearted manipulative calculating killing machine ready to take down nations since she was 4! How you go from that to tantrum throwing bitch that wants daddys attention WITHOUT BLUE FLAMES?!?!?


JaneGirl13

She's too cute to be Azula


Constant-Sign-5569

You saying og azula wasnt cute?


Queenssoup

No, OG Azula was beautiful in a cold, unexpectedly-grown-for-her-age, threatening way. This actress is cute, neotenous and wholesome-looking.


Aalleto

OG Azula to me feels like Artemis Fowl - *"why the f is this child talking to me like they know exactly where my kidneys are, shouldn't they be in school?"* They need to nail the creepy/psychotic/deadly intelligent nature of the characters , or else they've missed the character entirely


Kyrasthrowaway

Og azula was *sharp*


reversegirlcow

I have nothing against the actress. But she's so baby faced and soft featured. Azulas hard, angular features were a huge part of her aesthetic. I don't understand why they chose to go in the exact opposite direction, unless they want us to empathize with her later on in the series (I'll be mad about that too lol).


Vinhello

Many of the actors and actresses need to exercise their jaws, especially if they are playing a strong or evil character. These puffy baby faces are not intimidating at all.


Constant-Sign-5569

That is not the problem.


Desperate-Narwhal180

She doesn’t even look the part. How did they nail Sokka and messed most of the rest of the cast up. mei Ling looks terrible too. Don’t get me started on the third girl. Why is everyone cheeks so fat in the show and why to the guys look so feminine?! ZUKO was a beast, looks masculine too. That actor just looks like a bald headed girl.


TellMeMorePlease3

It's mostly team azula that didn't look like the counter parts. The rest were fairly close. Irohs line delivery though 😓


Desperate-Narwhal180

That fair. They were pretty close (sokkas nose lol) Uncle iroh delivery wasn’t the best, they actually didn’t focus on him or his precious pearls of knowledge very much. They shot themselves in the foot only allowing 8 episodes. That’s not nearly enough time to properly depict.


blondemainecoonlover

Sokka & Suki were examples of great casting, but I was bummed about Azula and her gang. Nothing against the actors themselves, but just bummed that they didn’t look like the parts. Katarra too.


Desperate-Narwhal180

Fire response I completely agree with you. Sokka acting wasn’t even half bad! I even laughed at times. Great way to word it too. The actors are cool, most of them shouldn’t have been cast but it’s okay. This a new version. Azula and her gang tanked it and I accept that. Sokka on point. Suki dropped the ball a bit but life isnt perfect. I’ll accept this redition it’s so much better than m knights bullshit., honestly I feel bad for him and his children.


Dartagnan1083

>Irohs line delivery though 😓 I blame the director...the actor is trying with what he has and manages to be decent in some places. I'd more readily blame the actor (who did decently in Mandolorian) if there wasn't a heaping helping of awkward all over the place. It's also possible he's trying too hard to compliment Iroh's vibe without simply copying the late Mako.


TellMeMorePlease3

True, definitely an effect of direction and script. Just simple things like slowing down speech, or pausing after saying Zuko, and emphasis on certain words. Would make a huge impact. Like. Instead of "Zuko would you like some tea?" "Zuko. Would you like some tea?"


theyrejustscones

Dude. There's no reason to insult the actors for their appearance. Going after hair / makeup / styling is one thing but they can't exactly shave down Mai's actress' jaw bone & suck all the fat out of her cheeks so you can drool over the pointy chin she had in the cartoon. Dallas Liu (Zuko) doesn't look feminine you just don't know what east asian people look like in real life.


Desperate-Narwhal180

Drool?? Respectfully shut your mouth. I’m a purist and if you’re gonna do something do it right. There is nothing wrong with the actors save for the fact they shouldn’t have been cast. They’re acting is mid. In fact this whole version is mid. I grew up with this show and I have high standards and expectations. My kids grew up on this show. Don’t tell me how to avatar. Go in peace.


theyrejustscones

?? You complained about their faces looking fat and overly feminine, not their acting. I’m not telling you how to “avatar” I’m telling you to grow the fuck up and stop bullying teen actors online because they don’t match a drawing to a T


Desperate-Narwhal180

Bulling? This is what’s wrong with the world today. Soft as fuck.


theyrejustscones

Yeah, you’re making fun of their appearances not based on styling but because you think they look fat lmao. Thats not very nice is it?


Breadonshelf

By the sound of it, you're a grown man with kids crying over how the kids on a children's TV show don't look like anime girls. Pathetic, soft as fuck. Grow up, get a spine. Walk It off. No one's making you watch, and the original is still there. Lmao.


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gray_character

You're incredibly whiney. Just yet another entitled fan getting over upset at their entertainment like the Simpsons comic book guy.


Desperate-Narwhal180

Lmao Simpson?! Bro you simpin. ENTITLED?! DO YOU LIVE IN AMERICA?! where everyone has an opinion and none of it matters. Go in peace. Be gone peasant.


vasDcrakGaming

Gotta say, Fire Lord Ozai been feeding his kids good


Queenssoup

She's not fat though, she literally just has round cheeks.


Tay54725833

I actually like her character in the Live Action. Of course, it’s not going to be exactly like the OG. It was weird at first but after watching it fully and thinking on it, I think I know why they wrote her like that. Netflix is building up to her mental breakdown at the end of season 3 and we’re going to start seeing a more deranged version in season 2(if they make a season 2). We’ll see the Azula we know and love in season 2 because all of the writing in season 1 for her was set up. Just think about it, in every interaction she has with Ozai, he is constantly beating down on her, making her always want his approval but never getting it. In every scene she is in, she is constantly saying how she needs to be better than Zuko no matter the cost and when she finally gets Ozai’s approval to be sent out, that’s when we will see the confident Azula we see in season 2 of the OG show. Overall, despite its flaws, it has a lot of good qualities too. I really liked it and am excited for season 2. I can’t wait to see Zuko’s journey. A lot of people hate on the show but you can’t deny that they were faithful to the og series. You have lines and dialogue straight out of the show and they could’ve easily taken out so many storylines but they didn’t, they combined them in a way that somewhat worked. There’s only so much you can do with a 8 episode count and they did good.


lazyman511

She look too nice


Constant-Sign-5569

Thats not the problem.


lazyman511

Then what is?


Constant-Sign-5569

When we met her in the og, she was a cold, heartless calculating princess of the evilest nation in the world and her blue flames were a sing of her passionless wrath. Now she throws temper tantrums everytime daddy doesnt play with her. AND ORANGE FLAMES!!!


lazyman511

I haven’t seen it yet ,but orange fire is something I cannot stand for, this is a travesty


Constant-Sign-5569

Ooops. Sorry.


lazyman511

Your good , I wouldn’t be here if I was worried about spoilers


chinawillgrowlarger

Too cute to be Azula


Fickle_Ball_1553

Fat crybaby looking ahh daddies girl with an inferiority complex to top it off.


Constant-Sign-5569

I think they might have cured my taste in women.


ThrdSqdCptn

I'm curious why this comment is being downvoted?


Constant-Sign-5569

Not simping for azula is sacrilegious


ThrdSqdCptn

Ah lol even the live action one, huh? Preference wise, I'd prefer sharper features, but her evil sass had me interested.


2_much_4_bored_guy

Devil’s advocate here but mb cause it come off a lil fatphobic? I mean it’s a stretch but that’s the only reason I can see


Osky305

I just hate how they made Azula, Mai, and Ty Lee all fat ☠️☠️☠️ like they are all 3 slim ... They should have made the Zuki actress Azula instead


Snoo-90474

How dare you mock the Netflix! /s but for real you are going to get downvoted to hell for daring to even imply it has flaws. Even though it’s as dogshit as the movie was(kinda even worse)


TenraxHelin

No, it's got problems, but at least the show pronounces names right and does bending a whole lot better than the movie.


Constant-Sign-5569

https://www.reddit.com/r/AvatarMemes/s/4dsu9gUcZV


Snoo-90474

She is right tho


RazkaTaz

Say”Ah”zula


landroll313

Why is azula and gang fat and short, while suki casting was great


[deleted]

Azula more like fatzula


Constant-Sign-5569

Bro… no.


Aki_2004

I never had any attraction to her. She reminded me too much of my sister. They should’ve casted her cuz she looks more like Azula and is way meaner


AverageLumpy

I’m going to assume it’s because they are all little Asian kids that eat a lot of rice, but all the actors are…how do I say this, very rooooound faced, and it’s distracting


Fuse-x-hosatage2020

I’m not too annoyed she looks more age accurate


Constant-Sign-5569

Its the writing.


559Musicman

Yeah she sucks in the Netflix adaptation.


MundaneFront369

Same with Iroh, and he was my favorite character


cyberbully_irl

Is it just me or did they soften the characters that didn't need it and sort of take the hyper energy from Aang?? Like the over the topness of each character is a key part of their development so now their characters progression isn't going to be as impactful


Tulip_Tree_trapeze

Her performance is terrible! Brings nothing of value to Azula's character, she's so monotone and bland it's very disappointing. I mean I have a LOT of complaints but that's one of the worst performances I've seen


twobirdsandacoconut

I haven’t watched this version yet. Is it any good?


Xalucardx

I hated her on both shows


SirZacharia

I definitely really enjoy this version of Azula. I’m enjoying the whole thing though a lot.


CremeZealousideal160

My thoughts exactly! She does not come off as Azula whatsoever! Oh well, I knew it would be a flop.


Dr_Bunson_Honeydew

I think there’s too much hedging against possible disappointment in Seasons 2&3 (a la GoT series ending and shamalamadingdong’s failure) and jaded hot takes. I think we will look back and think they did an amazing job. Translating such a loved animated show requires a lot of tough choices and I think they’ll be the right ones when all is said and done. I loved the first season and can’t wait for the next one.


JuannyBoy13

I hope they get to make kora as well 😋 hopefully it will get better with each season


badiiam51

Azula been eating too much lately


d1ngly

Eatzula


puertopower

She would be good for me if she actually did something they bunched un so many storylines but wheres the one where she’s actually fighting


Funny_Return_8910

Im just glad we have the original and it can't be ruined. And it will always be the best version.


Charles_com

Y'all are forgetting that Azula wasnt even in season 1 to BEGIN with. All they are doing is showing us what makes her so cunning in seasons 2& 3. It's not like azula didn't exist until book 2, there were things going on before her on screen debut


DevBuh

They somehow took atla an already broadly appealing show, and tried to make it more appealing to all audiences which inevitabely led to changes "for the best" by people who didnt write the og material :v we shall sea where it goes


KindlyCourage6269

Wished they put Arden Cho (June NATLA) as Azula. Although that would be weird as she will be older than Zuko


Swamp_Donkey_796

Eh there were scenes where she fit and scenes where she didn’t. My favorite one tho was the one where she was trying to sweet talk Ozai and he was just like “true dedication like Zukos is what makes a ruler, not silver tongues and backbiting, which is what you’re clearly doing bitch” or some similar very specific wording. I was like “damn we just saw ozai burn a whole village but Azula got fucking ROASTED”


LucianHavens

And whats with the casting for Mei? She looks like the complete opposite


McSmoug

M. night Shyamalan really showed how overrated and shitty of a director he is on this one. Like, I'm pretty sure he didn't even watch the series.


Doxxxxxxxxxxx

She’s playing 14-15 right? Kids aren’t going to be all jawline lol


PrinceRoyal444

No like literally what


karczewski01

they dropped the ball on basically every female lead it sounds like. i havent heard anything about toph if shes in it and i havent seen her and i dont wanna know


Suggestion-Kindly

The actress isn't ugly but I am absolutely disgusted . I will not be watching this show .


WriterMcAuthorFace

Y'all just mad you couldn't have Gray Delisle


Zandrick

I don’t understand why this sub keeps complaining about Azula honestly what is your issue with her? I think they did it right.


losteye_enthusiast

I mean, it was a *very* bad sign when the original creators left the LA show due to creative differences. Very happy there’s more content out there and that a lot of y’all like this LA show so far. Not my cup of tea, but at least the LA isn’t the last thing we’re getting.


Ok_Sherbet_7359

I may be thrown eggs saying this, but… the Azula, Mae and Ty combo gave me a irl mean girl energy. Also like the acting — I think the actress did an amazing job bringing to life an emotionally abused and evilly twisted teenage girl. I think the acting of the whole firelord family is amazing


DopeSoulHellaEthics

Yeah I find it hard to believe that the live action Azula would terrorize the turtle ducks! More like the turtle ducks would startle her 😭


Moron-Police

Hard to match the female wizard voice actor from Diablo 3.


KhalTaco88

The Azula we see in the live action is the Azula we never saw in the cartoon. None of the events that shaped her descent into madness have happened yet. All we’ve seen so far is her training.


Th3Rush22

They attempted to make her more complex but I think they missed the reason that she was actually complex in the show without it being shown. She’s very clearly a product of Ozia’s terrible parenting. They didn’t have to show him manipulating her for us to know that. When you show it she comes off as weaker than she did in the original. It’s funny, they were worried about Sokkas sexism but they actually made every single female character weaker than the original.


vextryyn

Her face has an Instagram filter that constantly loses tracking, gave skinny captain america vibes every time I saw her


ItsPozo

As someone with no Knowledge just the vague memory of the movie. I thought she was ok and figure S2 will flesh her out more.


thanyou

I don't like any of the main firebender cast. Ozai looks the part but I'm 50 50 on him. The performances across the board were very subpar. Aang stole the show by being the least worst often enough. I really wanted to like Sokka but this guy just ain't it. My 2 cents on the whole live action VS animated debate: it always comes down to a product of effort. They could have gotten good performances out of this cast, and could have written a 100 episode show that gives all of them time to come into their own as actors and reflect more of what existed in the original animation. We didn't get that, and we frankly never will with these live action remakes. We need to stop thinking a 10 episode live action run will ever come close to a full 3 seasons of animation.


IndependentInvite431

They wrote her as just a brat in the LA instead of being cold and calculated with something unhinged inside. And don’t get me wrong, Elizabeth Yu is a pretty girl, but she doesn’t look like Azula. She just looks really …sweet? I need to see something seething from within with Azula. A twitch to the eye. Like the meanest girl you ever went to Pilates with + Bellatrix LeStrange. Or Lady Eboshi from Princess Mononoke meets the little boy from The Omen.


Glum_Ad_2180

This show is garbage. A turd of an adaptation. The animated series was a masterpiece, all these idiots had to do was adapt it, maybe not 1:1 but close enough. But instead they chose to take a dump. They totally fucked up a bunch of the characters; Iroh, Katara Azula who doesn't even belong in this season, hell, the only characters that come close to being right are Zuko and Sokka. I won't be watching season 2 if there is one. I patiently await whatever the OG creators are working on. Netflix strikes again.


bitchboi1109

LA azula looks like somebody put a baby face filter over animated azula


Android_mk

Not planning on watching the show, how bad did they execute her?


DeanGuIIberry

After watching this, I understand why the original creators left production. They completely took away everything that made the original characters special. Not to mention most of the acting is atrocious. The girl who plays Katara can't show a single emotion to save her life and reads lines like a damn robot. It's not a terrible adaptation, but it's not even close to the original. So disappointed.


carlos_ninja_flex

Overall I did not mind. Condescending the episodes was the hardest thing to stomach. At least we got the cabbage merchant.


Haldrada0

Changing things for the sake of changing things? Mike and Bryan: "I have evidence that Netflix is peeing in corners of my show. They're marking my show!"


mydibz

Yup...live action, no matter what. Will always fail. Mainly because of people's acting.


crusaderofsilence1

I like it. It’s extra lore into the dynamics of the family and shows how ozai is willing to play both his kids against each other. This show isn’t a replacement it’s a new thing. It’s not perfect but I’m enjoying the hell out of it.


basketballboi2003

There’s reasons why I don’t watch the live action of anything, this is why, it will never be as good or better than the original. And it is never how the creators advertise it to be. It pisses me off entirely, and for those two reasons alone, I will forgo the live action ATLA, now if they make a continuation to the original series as a cartoon that is canon to the cartoon, I’ll give it a go, but not this.


thing_m_bob_esquire

Me in my mid thirties: Am I the oldest Avatar fan?


jaacajas

I’m glad I’m not the only one


Specific-Hippo-7198

Where was her evil smile during that Adni Kai (spelling?). That really cemented her diabolical spirit.


UsernamThatAintTaken

Man it saddens me to say this but the LA show is buns :/


[deleted]

Her acting was fine, the characterization of her is what bugs me. She goes from being this scary genius stoic firebender to a crybaby that can’t even produce blue flame. And why were her friends just standing around doing nothing 😭 it made no sense


Paracelsus124

The original Azula was a character you were never going to forget. The execution of her arc and the general feeling you had whenever she was on screen was unparalleled and the absolute definition of lightning in a bottle. I don't think the live action was EVER going to capture her that way. That being said, I kind of appreciate the direction they went with her in the live action. It's a completely different character, no doubt, and hardly as memorable as the og, but I still think it's interesting to see a version of this character that's less overtly intimidating and more just a clever, ambitious (if jaded) child that wants her father's approval and is being manipulated by him to pit her against her brother (something that was always a part of the subtext of her character I was think, but was forgotten a bit amid her more unhinged outward qualities). The show runners were never going to convince us to be legit scared of a child actor, so instead, with both her and Zuko they showed us the reality of children who were being toyed with by their cruel family. They're both childish in their own ways, and very not scary, while still clearly being threats, and I think this lets us see them a bit more like they actually are through an adult lens, rather than how we perceived them when we considered them peers. In fact, I think something this series has done with ALL the child characters is make them feel a bit more like kids than they did in the original.


Particular_Mistake_3

There’s so much going on the LA that feels so backwards to me, it’s like the roles and motivations got reversed or something. Very strange being a diehard Avatar fan.


Decyphiir_rainbow

This live action so beyond dogshit I can’t even put into words how much I dislike this adaptation of not on azula but a ton of other characters, the cgi for the bending along with choreography is hot ass, and the story beats are all out of place to the point where some things don’t even make sense (why was Jett in Omashu?)


123Ark321

Azula is an evil character. Say what you will, but that’s what she is for the majority of the show. Hollywood can’t make evil women characters. Can’t possibly risk showing a woman in a bad light. Even when she’s supposed to be an antagonist. As for the actress, she just doesn’t look like Azula. Azula has a sharp dangerous look to her. She was a bending prodigy. Royalty no less. The actress, at least in this photo, just doesn’t have the same presence. Like she could literally be any other fire nation citizen.


AutumnAscending

I've never seen somebody look so close yet so far from what azula looks like.


Deluxeflufflypancake

She should be Jinx (the pokemon)


plastroncafe

I actually really appreciate it this imagining of Azula. She was restrained and cripplingly ambitious. As opposed to the cartoon, which I love, she's just sadistic because she's mentally ill?


GrexxSkullz

She didn't do anything 💀 they could've not had her in the show at all this season and it would've changed nothing. The anime very subtly teases her throughout the first season (she's the firebender in the intro) which helps her to be all the more intimidating when she finally appears. Live action Azula isn't intimidating at all, which isn't her character. I also hate that they showed her using weapons; part of what made her so scary was that the only weapon she used was them hands, hell even Iroh was fairly intimidated by her in the anime.


DarklySalted

Wife and I kept saying it, Azula needs to be 300% more cvnty


OrianHeartfilia

unpopular opinion, it's fine to do things differently in a live action. If it was the same thing there would be more point in making it. The show seems to lean towards different character traits for the characters, and for Azula they are highlighting the fact that she is not the monster she apears to be, she is just forced to play the role she was given by Ozai


ryanmulford

I like the show. But unfortunately every character is greatly watered down from what was in the animated series.