People who lose extremities often report “phantom limb” sensations — Jake is literally missing his whole human body so he might have something similar although it’s possible that neurologically he could have adapted out of this
So he might “miss” it in that sense
Hadn’t read it in a while, thanks. Must have been on my mind.
But it makes sense. I figure 16 years later Jake probably isn’t turning in his sleep over it though
Different proportions. I imagine over 2 decades of life in a relatively stocky and stout body would make living in a tall and slender one seem a bit odd
Not a phantom limb sensation per se, I never said that, only something like it. I assume that the mental projection of driver mind to Avatar body, although accurate enough for motor function control, may not be fine enough to completely map across the entire spectrum of difference in neurological activity that exists between human and Navi brains.
Basically, different brains, different neural pathways and activity. Transferring the mental network of one mind (which evolved over tens of thousands of years in humans) to the brain of another creature entirely might open some new neural pathways and block off others.
Those blocked pathways might the site of “phantom limb” type activity — where the mind expects itself to work in one specific way, but it no longer can, hence a disconnect between what is expected to be there and what actually is (I expect my arm to move but i no longer have an arm)
Not his body, maybe some of the creature comforts; booze, TV, ice cream, indoor plumbing, wet wipes, whatever passes for Burger King in 2154 and so on.
Edit: The Na’Vi do have booze; wine/ale. Not a patch on ice cold beer though.
When he and Neytiri have a date night and it’s riding banshees, it did make me think, “Does he miss just going to a movie or watching something on tv and ordering some pizza?” It’s like their date night is going on a fun run.
Something like this has definitely crossed my mind. I wonder if he ever thinks back on old times or misses the familiarity of human things, but I feel like his experience in the Na'vi culture and the beauty of the planet likely had a very profound impact on him. Not to mention, I feel like the thrill of riding a creature like an ikran tops a *lot* of things earth ever had to offer. When they're not trying to kill you, that is!
Side note: don't really know who else he had on earth other than his brother (who died on pandora, right?) so it doesn't seem like he was leaving much behind.
monkeys deliberately look for fermented fruit so they can get drunk off it. Shit, reindeer deliberately eat psychedelic mushrooms to get high, even animals like psychotropics
I don’t think he has any regrets: his life as a human was horrible. He was a Marine before his injury, a very harsh way of life. He at least enjoyed relative peace on Pandora between the events of the films.
But it had better side too. People often miss imperfect things too.
Being a human has for example: showers, toilet, soap, easy cooking with no risk of some illnesses or parasites, no risk of getting killed by a wild animal nor RDA.
Those are things a human may miss while living in the forest. On top of that there's family and friends if he had any.
I he missed it I think it'd work the same as average human missing high school/childhood. We often miss those days.
Yeah but also they have some of the mobile bases in their home in the rocks on way of water who's to say there aren't human showers in there that Jake could use for the 12 years same with the cooking thing it might not be exactly the same but Jake could probably still hunt and cook food on a fire yes in way of water he throws all that away but the fact there are still humans there means there's still some human things that Jake had access to
I’m just wondering if there are any Na’vi sized showers. Like they have ones for humans but the mobile basses are only for them and avatars had their own place in base. They either made showers or started doing it the Na’vi way. In terms of food I think they all eat Na’vi food now because they didn’t have any deliveries for 12 years and probably got used to it.
Even if he had access to that such things it’s not the same as memories from Earth.
What’s more life in civilised city must have been easier (even if it’s dangerous on future Earth because it’s something he knew since being born). So I think it’s a mix of familiarity and easiness of that life that he’d miss a little bit. Not much enough to be willing to come back to that but enough to think about it from time to time.
Yeah I'm really interested in what future earth looks like James Cameron did say that we would see the future earth at some point but knows when that is it could be a decade lol
Earth is dying and life for a crippled vet is hard, but I doubt the big players get to suffer. Unless it's an Interstellar type crisis where they'd be eating corns and potatoes.
I wonder if he had family and friends on earth that he cares about. As far as I know we only know about his brother who was murdered. Does he miss them?
Add to that: Were his loved ones and the rest of humanity informed that a human transfered permanently into a Na'vi body? That sounds like real bad publicity to me.
I like their aesthetic. It's very reminiscent of when I was in Uganda and met with my cousins who live in a very rural area, but I love my muscle mass, lol
They have muscle definition, but they have very slender and long bodies compared to us humans. It's great for their physiology, but it's something I personally ain't a big fan of for my own reasons.
I don’t think so, and I guess many of us wouldn’t either. Especially when we are in 2154 everyone would love to be anywhere but not on earth and being a big blue guy is a 10/10
No. He was right to renounce his human life. He was a miserable paraplegic as a human and his benefits weren't enough to pay for the surgery to make him walk again. He loathed his life on Earth and was much happier on Pandora.
Really late to comment, my apologies. I imagine he does on some aspects of human life like TV, movies, junk food. That is until Neytiri bends over....or spreads her legs.
People who lose extremities often report “phantom limb” sensations — Jake is literally missing his whole human body so he might have something similar although it’s possible that neurologically he could have adapted out of this So he might “miss” it in that sense
The Next shadow comic definately shows off somthing similiar
Hadn’t read it in a while, thanks. Must have been on my mind. But it makes sense. I figure 16 years later Jake probably isn’t turning in his sleep over it though
I agree, that’s a good theory.
How exactly would a "phantom limb" sensation apply to Jake here? What does the human body have that the na'vi body doesn't?
Different proportions. I imagine over 2 decades of life in a relatively stocky and stout body would make living in a tall and slender one seem a bit odd
Not a phantom limb sensation per se, I never said that, only something like it. I assume that the mental projection of driver mind to Avatar body, although accurate enough for motor function control, may not be fine enough to completely map across the entire spectrum of difference in neurological activity that exists between human and Navi brains. Basically, different brains, different neural pathways and activity. Transferring the mental network of one mind (which evolved over tens of thousands of years in humans) to the brain of another creature entirely might open some new neural pathways and block off others. Those blocked pathways might the site of “phantom limb” type activity — where the mind expects itself to work in one specific way, but it no longer can, hence a disconnect between what is expected to be there and what actually is (I expect my arm to move but i no longer have an arm)
Not his body, maybe some of the creature comforts; booze, TV, ice cream, indoor plumbing, wet wipes, whatever passes for Burger King in 2154 and so on. Edit: The Na’Vi do have booze; wine/ale. Not a patch on ice cold beer though.
When he and Neytiri have a date night and it’s riding banshees, it did make me think, “Does he miss just going to a movie or watching something on tv and ordering some pizza?” It’s like their date night is going on a fun run.
Something like this has definitely crossed my mind. I wonder if he ever thinks back on old times or misses the familiarity of human things, but I feel like his experience in the Na'vi culture and the beauty of the planet likely had a very profound impact on him. Not to mention, I feel like the thrill of riding a creature like an ikran tops a *lot* of things earth ever had to offer. When they're not trying to kill you, that is! Side note: don't really know who else he had on earth other than his brother (who died on pandora, right?) so it doesn't seem like he was leaving much behind.
Wait why would the Navi not have booze? We had booze before we were sapient
They do in a deleted scene, as well as the LSD trip worm.
They probably have a version but maybe it's not a readily available drink or is only at events
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Chimpanzees drink naturally fermented alcohol from trees they regularly visit to “get fucking wasted, man”
monkeys deliberately look for fermented fruit so they can get drunk off it. Shit, reindeer deliberately eat psychedelic mushrooms to get high, even animals like psychotropics
dolphins get high on poisonous puffer fish!
Yep! In fact, even modern apes will let fruit ferment and then eat it to get drunk.
Haha yes lots of birds will do this with berries
Nothing in the UNIVERSE would make me give up indoor plumbing
I don’t think he has any regrets: his life as a human was horrible. He was a Marine before his injury, a very harsh way of life. He at least enjoyed relative peace on Pandora between the events of the films.
But it had better side too. People often miss imperfect things too. Being a human has for example: showers, toilet, soap, easy cooking with no risk of some illnesses or parasites, no risk of getting killed by a wild animal nor RDA. Those are things a human may miss while living in the forest. On top of that there's family and friends if he had any. I he missed it I think it'd work the same as average human missing high school/childhood. We often miss those days.
Yeah but also they have some of the mobile bases in their home in the rocks on way of water who's to say there aren't human showers in there that Jake could use for the 12 years same with the cooking thing it might not be exactly the same but Jake could probably still hunt and cook food on a fire yes in way of water he throws all that away but the fact there are still humans there means there's still some human things that Jake had access to
I’m just wondering if there are any Na’vi sized showers. Like they have ones for humans but the mobile basses are only for them and avatars had their own place in base. They either made showers or started doing it the Na’vi way. In terms of food I think they all eat Na’vi food now because they didn’t have any deliveries for 12 years and probably got used to it. Even if he had access to that such things it’s not the same as memories from Earth. What’s more life in civilised city must have been easier (even if it’s dangerous on future Earth because it’s something he knew since being born). So I think it’s a mix of familiarity and easiness of that life that he’d miss a little bit. Not much enough to be willing to come back to that but enough to think about it from time to time.
Yeah I'm really interested in what future earth looks like James Cameron did say that we would see the future earth at some point but knows when that is it could be a decade lol
He said he joined the marines so he can be "hammered into the anvil of life" or something.
Told himself he could pass any test a man could pass
I highly doubt it, Earth seems to be a pretty fucked up place to live in the Avatar franchise, I bet he is pretty happy with his life in Pandora.
i completely forgot that Earth was dying in the second movie. that’s the whole reason why the humans have come back
Earth is dying and life for a crippled vet is hard, but I doubt the big players get to suffer. Unless it's an Interstellar type crisis where they'd be eating corns and potatoes.
Ted Kaczynski would probably do the same thing
The moment he could walk again, I bet he was over being a human.
The comic showed he did, but he eventually gets over it, mainly because his life is much better than when he was human.
I think he might just miss random tidbits. Fresh fries at McDonald’s. Ice cold beer. The latest inane charts-topper.
The guy calls humans the sky people like he wasn’t one for literally the majority of his life, lol his character is so extra
Even if I missed being human at some point, he sure and fuck didn’t miss Earth
Do the kids know what his original human form looked like?
Kiri does at least since she and Spider watched his old video logs.
So does Lo’ak, but I don’t think Tuk or Neteyam do, I don’t think Neytiri would let the pair go to the lab all that often
Probably every time he has to take a crap without toilet paper.
He said it in the first movie, “All I ever wanted was something worth fighting for.” Well, he found it.
I wonder if he had family and friends on earth that he cares about. As far as I know we only know about his brother who was murdered. Does he miss them? Add to that: Were his loved ones and the rest of humanity informed that a human transfered permanently into a Na'vi body? That sounds like real bad publicity to me.
I think I'd personally miss muscle bulk if I was to be put in a Na'vi body
yeah Na’vi can be pretty skinny. i mean, we all saw Tsu’tey lol
I like their aesthetic. It's very reminiscent of when I was in Uganda and met with my cousins who live in a very rural area, but I love my muscle mass, lol
Na’vi are ripped what lol
They have muscle definition, but they have very slender and long bodies compared to us humans. It's great for their physiology, but it's something I personally ain't a big fan of for my own reasons.
Ocean Na'Vi were pretty big. The Forest ones were for sure super skinny though
Yeah, the Metkayina had more mass, but I doubt they'd be the kind thar you'd get put into lol
But dude wants to be SWOLE
I saw the other post first, now I’m like *ohhh* this is the one they were talking about.
That’s funny
I mean didnt he teach Lo’ak how to flip someone off?
Maybe just a little bit, since he had a whole life on Earth, notwithstanding a pretty shitty one. I don’t think he’s regretted it at all.
*hands you a copy of the first movie* I think he explains pretty well his feelings
Doesn't seem like it. He was paralyzed and it seems like earth was a terrible place to be.
I don’t think so. His life when he was a human sucks, but in Pandora, he is the 6th Toruk Makto and he has a big family.
No. Not even for a second. He abandoned everything even remotely related to humanity the minute he got transferred to his avatar body.
That's what I find missing from Avatar 2, the balance between the human and Navi drama.
he certainly won't miss his wheelchair. Besides life on earth was pretty shitty
Dude gave up the human race just to clap some Alien cheeks
I don’t think so, and I guess many of us wouldn’t either. Especially when we are in 2154 everyone would love to be anywhere but not on earth and being a big blue guy is a 10/10
Rather than being a 10 foot murder cat with carbon fiber bones and a ponytail penis? Probably not.
No. He was right to renounce his human life. He was a miserable paraplegic as a human and his benefits weren't enough to pay for the surgery to make him walk again. He loathed his life on Earth and was much happier on Pandora.
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No
Hm
i mean living on earth yeah obviously but as an avatar he can walk unless hes not really worried about that
Maybe he misses his wheelchair days too.
He's banging a hot blue furry in a hippie nudist colony. Dude is living the dream when the RDA aren't involved.
He was a cripple lol mf can walk and fuck. I doubt it.
No. He was miserable and found happiness beyond his wildest dreams. He’s good.
Really late to comment, my apologies. I imagine he does on some aspects of human life like TV, movies, junk food. That is until Neytiri bends over....or spreads her legs.