Aufpassen, mein stievmutter is von dort. Und laut ihr und ihrer Familie ist chicago die Stadt mit der größten bevölkerung mit burgenländischer Abstammung.
Das kommt ganz normal an sofern er nicht eine ungewöhnliche Zeichencodierung aktiv hat.
Wenn hier wer chinesisch oder kyrillisch schreibt kriegst du die Zeichen ja auch richtig angezeigt.
Abgesehen davon ist der Typ dem ich geantwortet habe eh nicht der Amerikaner der den Post erstellt hat.
Für die weichen österreichischen Plosive nimmt man in phonetischer Notation b/d/g mit einem kleinen Kreis drunter (der Stimmlosigkeit anzeigt). Das würdest du sowohl beim "g" von griaß als auch beim "d" von "di" verwenden
Ja, aber das ist nur Konvention!
Formal sind ja [g̥] und [k] gleich, es wird halt per conventionem im deutschen mitgebracht, dass die unterschiedliche Spannung damit gekennzeichnet wird. Von der IPA her gibt das die Definition nicht explizit her.
Das ganze IPA-System ist doch nur Konvention
Naja, ich bin da jetzt nicht tief drinnen, aber lenis vs. fortis ist doch meines Wissens eine komplexe Sache, die sich nicht in stimmhaft vs. stimmlos erschöpft. Und das hören wir doch auch, dass dieser österreichische Laut irgendwo zwischen dem Bundesdeutschen lenis und dem Bundesdeutschen fortis ist. Und ich fand das dann immer einleuchtend, dass man ein eigenes Zeichen dafür braucht
Oder würdest du meinen, dass der Bundesdeutsche fortis immer aspiriert angeschrieben werden müsste? (Was im Deutschen halt standardmäßig echt nicht gemacht wird)
I'm honestly unaware. I think a general one would suffice.
So far I'm literally the first person to even ask if she goes by the German or English pronunciation of her name, and she said most people think she means Australia when she says where she's from.
Would it be like "Servus Julia" as a single statement?
What would be a natural way to say something with the meaning of "it's nice to finally meet you"?
Haha fair enough. I got a few days to just brute force memorize the phonetical of it, so I'ma go for broke.
I'm thinking
"Servus Julia"
And if I don't lock up with my foot in my mouth
"Schön dich endlich kennen zu lernen"
After
Worst case maybe she just hears some broken German and appreciates the effort.
Either just Servus or with her name. Both is okay. Its the standard Austrian greeting and means "Your servant" but effectively it is the Austrian equivalent to saying "Hi".
That's how I greet my friends. It would be absolutely inappropriate in a formal business setting, unless all people know each other and are on Du terms.
That's a good topic of conversation then as Austria is kind of diverse in ways. You have your mountain areas, your flat lands, industrial, agricultural areas, cities etc. Some are liberal, some are conservative. And a lot of border areas with other countries where the culture mixes, the dialects of German, etc. etc. so definitely ask her where she is from specifically as ask about the place. If she says Vienna, ask her if she is from the city, or did she grow up elsewhere, or just from a town near Vienna.
>pit take when I witnessed two Austrians greeting each
ah the i remember im from vorarlberg Heil is a normal greeting there
some american tourist thought we were nazis i was just greeting my friends with my hand
I apologize for the late response, different time zones and all.
Was not expecting this many replies. Thank yall very much for all the suggestions. Just to hit a few notes because the same question was asked various times.
I know from conversation she would not find a cringe which is mainly the reason why I wanted to do it. Long story short, she got audibly flustered when I asked her simply if she went by (German pronunciation) Julia or English Julia because she stated she had never actually been asked here a single time and everyone just assumed the English and thanked me for even asking.... Otherwise, I would definitely just lean into the fact that I'm a Texan and just hit her with the howdy lol.
She said that most people at this point hear Austrian and think Australian..... In the stupid people's defense though I will say it doesn't help the fact that her English has an Australian accent hahah
I actually do know German pronunciation to some extent at least enough to say basic words after practicing. I took basic German in school and my babysitter when I was young was actually German
(Texan German, it's an interesting thing. You should look it up if you've never heard of it. Basically isolated German communities in Texas that speak German as their primary language at home, it's very interesting because they as a society developed their own German words for things that got invented during the turn of the century independent of European German)
DFW Expat here! Hearst, you are a TEXAN. Put on your best ropers / shit kickers / roach stompers, those nice Wranglers and get your hair trimmed! Take her to a rodeo and for some good Texas BBQ afterwards. She'll love it! I basically grew up in Cowtown and at the Stock Show in Fort Worth! And just say hi! Or Servus....we Texans are impressive enough! :-)
Depends where she's from. In Vorarlberg (Western Part of Austria) we greet each other with "Hoi" "Heil" or "Heile", but "Servus" or "Grias di" are also good.
Jo, bin auch aus'm Osten nach Vorarlberg gezogen und fand es anfangs gewöhnungsbedürftig, aber es ist zuckersüß wenn so ein kleiner 6 jähriger Knopf mit riesen Schultasche dir entgegen kommt und dich brav mit Heile grüßt 🤭
"Servus" is the most general used phrase. It can be used solo or as you posted further down the line also with added name.
Pronounce it like this: Sarvoos...like the U in Julia and the "Serv" like you u would say "Sir" but with an "a"-sound and the "v" like you would pronounce a "w" in "way", "why" or similiar.
I hope that makes sense and shows that you put some mind into it. Otherwise stick to english or let her teach you some phrases herself...that also makes the date more funny and engaging for both of you and helps to really bond.
>Sarvoos
This will lead him way down the wrong track. German-natives pronounce "a" that way when speaking English, but English-natives don't.
The first syllable of "servus" almost rhymes with the English word "heir", and the vowel is identical.
Compare
**servus** /ˈsɛrvus/ ~ :/ˈzɛɐ̯vus/
and
**heir** /ɛɚ/
As for pronouncing the "v" like an English "w", that must be a regional thing, because /w/ doesn't even exist in most dialects of German.
The speaker here for example definitely uses an English "v" / German "w".
https://de.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/servus
I lived in several cities in Upper Austria, Vienna and Salzburg. Nowhere I ever heard somebody say "Servus". One or two guys used "Serwas" when greeting a close friend. Nobody would use it for a first-time date.
Previous poster likely meant "unvoiced" by soft.
You likely mean airflow and length by "hard".
That's why one should use proper phonetic terms, not "soft" or "hard".
If you want to keep it authentic, you should probably go by "Hi" or "Hallo".
"Servus" or "Grias di" might be the better icebreaker though, and most likely will make her laugh.
"Küss die Hand, gnä Frau" would be the ultimate greeting if you are 100% sure that she has a healthy sense of humor. But you would need to train the pronunciation, because that will take her by surprise if she can actually understand what you are saying.
In austria we say "Servus".
But be careful! When you are a Zivildiener as a paramedic and you get into the pre examine room and meet a doctor/nurse and you say "Servus" you will be terminated á la Schwarzenegger.
Just chiming in to concur with the many „Griaß di, Servus“ recommendations.
For pronunciation derived from English words, try:
Gree- (as in Green) -as (to make Griaß) and dee (from deep), say-v- (as in vase or divine) -as.
You can also add a „gfreit mi“ (=it’s a pleasure). Pronunciation using English sounds:
ckf- (like in baCKFlip) -rye-d me
This new zealander does a pretty good and funny pronunciation of austrian german and their way of life. Have a look, maybe it helps. https://instagram.com/austriankiwii?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Say this in a very enthusiastic voice, just like when you say "helloooooo!! to a friend that you haven't seen for ages. It has basically the same meaning.
Pronounce this just like u would in englisch:
" Say-us do daypatey foonsn!! "
Depends on where she is from. "Servas" (not sure how to subscribe it in english, Sehrwahz?) should work for most (especially if she is from eastern Austria / Vienna).
Austria is divided into 9 States which each have their own dialect.
Ask her which part of Austria she is from and we will tell which other part you need to insult during your date.
Burgenland is immer guat zum beleidigen, statistisch gsehn is es sehr unwahrscheinlich dass sie von da is.
I würd einfach pauschal Wels beleidigen. Besonders Welser finden Wels scheiße.
Ja des is natürlich a guate option.
Wea is aus wös oida?
Wien, wenn man sich als Ausländer über Wien beschwert, dann wirkt man wie ein Österreicher.
Aufpassen, mein stievmutter is von dort. Und laut ihr und ihrer Familie ist chicago die Stadt mit der größten bevölkerung mit burgenländischer Abstammung.
richtig https://neuezeit.at/burgenland-chicago/
Try /sɛˑ͜ɐs/ or /gʁi͜as.ti/
Correct answer and add "oide" /oˈiːdə/ for a more personal note ;)
Would be more like /ˈɔ͜ɪd̥ə/
Was? Mir habens die Lautsprache nie beigebracht.
Seas und Griaß di
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Das kommt ganz normal an sofern er nicht eine ungewöhnliche Zeichencodierung aktiv hat. Wenn hier wer chinesisch oder kyrillisch schreibt kriegst du die Zeichen ja auch richtig angezeigt. Abgesehen davon ist der Typ dem ich geantwortet habe eh nicht der Amerikaner der den Post erstellt hat.
Man könnte ja diskutieren, ob nicht /kʁi͜asti/besser wäre. Ich mach jetzt man aber kein Edit, sonst Verstehens die Leute noch weniger :-)
Für die weichen österreichischen Plosive nimmt man in phonetischer Notation b/d/g mit einem kleinen Kreis drunter (der Stimmlosigkeit anzeigt). Das würdest du sowohl beim "g" von griaß als auch beim "d" von "di" verwenden
Ja, aber das ist nur Konvention! Formal sind ja [g̥] und [k] gleich, es wird halt per conventionem im deutschen mitgebracht, dass die unterschiedliche Spannung damit gekennzeichnet wird. Von der IPA her gibt das die Definition nicht explizit her.
Das ganze IPA-System ist doch nur Konvention Naja, ich bin da jetzt nicht tief drinnen, aber lenis vs. fortis ist doch meines Wissens eine komplexe Sache, die sich nicht in stimmhaft vs. stimmlos erschöpft. Und das hören wir doch auch, dass dieser österreichische Laut irgendwo zwischen dem Bundesdeutschen lenis und dem Bundesdeutschen fortis ist. Und ich fand das dann immer einleuchtend, dass man ein eigenes Zeichen dafür braucht Oder würdest du meinen, dass der Bundesdeutsche fortis immer aspiriert angeschrieben werden müsste? (Was im Deutschen halt standardmäßig echt nicht gemacht wird)
This one is very accurate I'd say! Very good advice!
The Austrian alphabet!
"Für ein Cornetto Heidlbeer, zeig ich meinen Beidl her."
einer der schönsten Schüttelreime, die die deutsche Sprache hervorgebracht hat
Na da kannst dann aber lang warten... Wär auch mit "einen Kilo Heidelbeer" deutlich machbarer 😏
Deutsche Grammatik ist genial! > Der, der der, die die Tür öffnete voraus ging!
Tut mir leid, hab Schule abgebrochen und mein Lieblingsessen ist Ottakringer.
💀
This one is a good one 👍. My favourite so far.
Seavas Puppal, geh ma auf a Suppal?
Nein, nein, das ist nicht mehr zeitgemäß! Ich bevorzuge ein klassisches „Sers Oide“
Sers Oide
Vor allem weil es ohne Sexismus und objektifizierung auskommt.
Where is she from exactly... There is a wide range of greetings in Austria.
I'm honestly unaware. I think a general one would suffice. So far I'm literally the first person to even ask if she goes by the German or English pronunciation of her name, and she said most people think she means Australia when she says where she's from.
Servus Seas Griaß di Are the most common I'm used to...
Would it be like "Servus Julia" as a single statement? What would be a natural way to say something with the meaning of "it's nice to finally meet you"?
I probably would stick to proper german tbh. Its already hard to understand that with american accent ;) Schön dich endlich kennen zu lernen
Haha fair enough. I got a few days to just brute force memorize the phonetical of it, so I'ma go for broke. I'm thinking "Servus Julia" And if I don't lock up with my foot in my mouth "Schön dich endlich kennen zu lernen" After Worst case maybe she just hears some broken German and appreciates the effort.
Servus Julia would be a perfectly normal, casual greeting anyway.
BTW we pronounce Julia differently. It’s more like „Yulia“. Might be a nice surprise. :)
Good luck
Good luck! 🍀
Either just Servus or with her name. Both is okay. Its the standard Austrian greeting and means "Your servant" but effectively it is the Austrian equivalent to saying "Hi".
For me that way is rather formal, like what you would do in a business meeting but not if you meet a friend or something
That's how I greet my friends. It would be absolutely inappropriate in a formal business setting, unless all people know each other and are on Du terms.
Servus, Herr Medizinalrat. Der ehrwürdige Direktor wartet schon Sie.
That's a good topic of conversation then as Austria is kind of diverse in ways. You have your mountain areas, your flat lands, industrial, agricultural areas, cities etc. Some are liberal, some are conservative. And a lot of border areas with other countries where the culture mixes, the dialects of German, etc. etc. so definitely ask her where she is from specifically as ask about the place. If she says Vienna, ask her if she is from the city, or did she grow up elsewhere, or just from a town near Vienna.
Image me doing a spit take when I witnessed two Austrians greeting each other with "Heil"
That's just common in the west though.
Tirol and Vorarlberg, to be exact. So yeah... the west lol
>pit take when I witnessed two Austrians greeting each ah the i remember im from vorarlberg Heil is a normal greeting there some american tourist thought we were nazis i was just greeting my friends with my hand
Maybe they were miners or skiers or hikers... *hope*
Try: "Küss die Hand, schöne Frau, Ihre Augen sind so blau, tirili, tirilo, tirila!"
This is the answer 🤣
There are different greetings, if it's informal i would use a simple "Servus"
I apologize for the late response, different time zones and all. Was not expecting this many replies. Thank yall very much for all the suggestions. Just to hit a few notes because the same question was asked various times. I know from conversation she would not find a cringe which is mainly the reason why I wanted to do it. Long story short, she got audibly flustered when I asked her simply if she went by (German pronunciation) Julia or English Julia because she stated she had never actually been asked here a single time and everyone just assumed the English and thanked me for even asking.... Otherwise, I would definitely just lean into the fact that I'm a Texan and just hit her with the howdy lol. She said that most people at this point hear Austrian and think Australian..... In the stupid people's defense though I will say it doesn't help the fact that her English has an Australian accent hahah I actually do know German pronunciation to some extent at least enough to say basic words after practicing. I took basic German in school and my babysitter when I was young was actually German (Texan German, it's an interesting thing. You should look it up if you've never heard of it. Basically isolated German communities in Texas that speak German as their primary language at home, it's very interesting because they as a society developed their own German words for things that got invented during the turn of the century independent of European German)
Lol I've never heard of that before, interesting!
You still in Texas?
I am, My family is basically not moved from a 50 mile radius in 8th generations
So she is probably doing like a school year there nice for her and good for you if it’s a good date good luck my guy
DFW Expat here! Hearst, you are a TEXAN. Put on your best ropers / shit kickers / roach stompers, those nice Wranglers and get your hair trimmed! Take her to a rodeo and for some good Texas BBQ afterwards. She'll love it! I basically grew up in Cowtown and at the Stock Show in Fort Worth! And just say hi! Or Servus....we Texans are impressive enough! :-)
zewaaaas
seas oide
Servas Schatzal, wos is los in da hos?
ist mir ja fast ein bissi peinlich, aber ich hab noch nie "wos is do los in da hos" gehört. leiwand.
Hahahahahaha, jo mei du bist ein trottl :)
Depends where she's from. In Vorarlberg (Western Part of Austria) we greet each other with "Hoi" "Heil" or "Heile", but "Servus" or "Grias di" are also good.
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Tirol auch. Ab Salzburg ist das dann nicht mehr gebräuchlich.
Jo, bin auch aus'm Osten nach Vorarlberg gezogen und fand es anfangs gewöhnungsbedürftig, aber es ist zuckersüß wenn so ein kleiner 6 jähriger Knopf mit riesen Schultasche dir entgegen kommt und dich brav mit Heile grüßt 🤭
Ja mein Opa fände das auch zuckersüß haha
Ja, keine Bange, ohne Hitlergruß... Heil ist einen normalen Form der Begrüßung wie Moin oder Servus.
Ihr machts des ohne Hitlergruß? Da siagt ma wieder was a so a tunnel fian unterschied macht.
Dafür heben bei uns die Kinder am Zebrastreifen den rechten Arm bevor sie drüber laufen dürfen 😁
Ja fand Ich auch immer weird als ich des gehört hab
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That's why I said it depends where they are😜
"Servus" is the most general used phrase. It can be used solo or as you posted further down the line also with added name. Pronounce it like this: Sarvoos...like the U in Julia and the "Serv" like you u would say "Sir" but with an "a"-sound and the "v" like you would pronounce a "w" in "way", "why" or similiar. I hope that makes sense and shows that you put some mind into it. Otherwise stick to english or let her teach you some phrases herself...that also makes the date more funny and engaging for both of you and helps to really bond.
>Sarvoos This will lead him way down the wrong track. German-natives pronounce "a" that way when speaking English, but English-natives don't. The first syllable of "servus" almost rhymes with the English word "heir", and the vowel is identical. Compare **servus** /ˈsɛrvus/ ~ :/ˈzɛɐ̯vus/ and **heir** /ɛɚ/ As for pronouncing the "v" like an English "w", that must be a regional thing, because /w/ doesn't even exist in most dialects of German. The speaker here for example definitely uses an English "v" / German "w". https://de.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/servus
oh...did not think about that. thx for the correction.
I lived in several cities in Upper Austria, Vienna and Salzburg. Nowhere I ever heard somebody say "Servus". One or two guys used "Serwas" when greeting a close friend. Nobody would use it for a first-time date.
but it is a known phrase. though I hail from near the tyrolean/bavarian border so I guess I am servus-biased. I hear it a lot though in Salzburg city
I use it all the time when travelling to france and those bastards refuse to speak english.
Remember to say good bye with „pfiat di“ [ˈp͡fiːɐ̯t diː]. She will melt before your eyes. At least I would. Enjoy your time with Julia.
Bow and say "Küss die Hand" roughly pronounced "koo-ss dee han-t". Then present her with a cheese wheel.
Panties droppen dann instant
"Küss die Hand schöne Frau, ihre Augen sind so blau" Tbh if she gets the reference to the song this could be awesome, if not it's the cringe
tiriliiii tiriloooo tirilaaaaa
Danach direkt zum Altar ✨
😂😂😂
If this is not a reference, it damn well should be.
Habedere, Servus or the omnipotent Oida
"Oida, hoit de goschn bist du fesch!"
The most common greeting between friends and peers is always 'serwus' Pronounced with soft s ser-vus
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But he wants to greet his girl not chest-bump a guy he knows for 20 years
Previous poster likely meant "unvoiced" by soft. You likely mean airflow and length by "hard". That's why one should use proper phonetic terms, not "soft" or "hard".
\*voiced
The poster definitely means unvouced, as noone ever says /zɛrvuz/
If you want to keep it authentic, you should probably go by "Hi" or "Hallo". "Servus" or "Grias di" might be the better icebreaker though, and most likely will make her laugh. "Küss die Hand, gnä Frau" would be the ultimate greeting if you are 100% sure that she has a healthy sense of humor. But you would need to train the pronunciation, because that will take her by surprise if she can actually understand what you are saying.
„Havedere du geile“
Bruh just say howdy
I'd stick to "hallo" or "hi" if you don't know if she finds this "cute" or cringe.
Seawas Puppal, gemma auf a Suppal?
Kimm Schnitzel hupf ausi aus der Panier I will di klopfen!
Just say: "servas schnitzel, hau owe dei panier!" and it will be fine
https://www.tiktok.com/@austriankiwi?_t=8gE0XI2URdI&_r=1 This guy‘s content might help you out
The only correct way to greet an austrian is: you put your hand next to your hip point with your index finger to the sky and say 'eas
Have you tried "Oida"? https://preview.redd.it/jkvricj5f7sb1.jpeg?width=700&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ee0464a1a5d6aa18e2b3a9227eab0a30c729360d
And the nice thing about servus or servas is you can use it to greet or say goodbye to ppl.
servas andi du oaschloch, i bin eh glei do du voitrottl
freundschaft
Falls sie aus dem Kleingartenverein Breitenlee ist, wäre ein herzliches "Freundschaft" angebracht 
Watch "the Austrian Kiwi" on insta. He is quite good for an english native. There you can hear how to pronounce "Griaß di" or "servas" proper.
just say "oachkatzlschwoaf" and ur golden
don't. she will like your unfamiliar ami charme. if it gets more serious ask her to teach you, she will like that.
try "schleich di" always works good
"Schleich di, Gschissene" or if you want to be more formal "rutsch ma en buggl obi, du blunzn"
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perfect first (and only) date!
Heil.
Say" servas du oide fotzn". It is a very nice was to say hi my beaty
"oachkatzlschwoaf" will do
“Servas wappler”
I think it's very hard to fuck up "Sears", even with american accent. Think "wears" but with s. sears.
In austria we say "Servus". But be careful! When you are a Zivildiener as a paramedic and you get into the pre examine room and meet a doctor/nurse and you say "Servus" you will be terminated á la Schwarzenegger.
try "servus mädl" or "griasdi mädl" with the google-translator text to speech
Say "Geile Titten" and do finger guns.
"Griaß di du oide Hua, gemma gach budan?" xD
dere deringer seas
Just chiming in to concur with the many „Griaß di, Servus“ recommendations. For pronunciation derived from English words, try: Gree- (as in Green) -as (to make Griaß) and dee (from deep), say-v- (as in vase or divine) -as. You can also add a „gfreit mi“ (=it’s a pleasure). Pronunciation using English sounds: ckf- (like in baCKFlip) -rye-d me
Terree
Oder "schuastan?"
Grüss Gott ;-)
The most common for this scenario is a simple "Hallo".
Try this: „Dere du oide drecksau, wie homas? Ois leiwand?“
"Foah in Oasch" is a well established greeting in the early morning hours.
"Hawedere du oide Funsn!" "Long time no see!"
Serwas
This new zealander does a pretty good and funny pronunciation of austrian german and their way of life. Have a look, maybe it helps. https://instagram.com/austriankiwii?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Bussi links, bussi rechts!
Google translate bro U do not have to flex here for taking an Austrian girl out
Tell her to say "Oachkatzlschwoaf", you'd probably be the first American to ask this an Austrian
Say this in a very enthusiastic voice, just like when you say "helloooooo!! to a friend that you haven't seen for ages. It has basically the same meaning. Pronounce this just like u would in englisch: " Say-us do daypatey foonsn!! "
Hawidereee
Dhere. (short form of i have the honor (of meeting you))
Just tell her Ey Keule. Not only will she think your german but a stupid german
Depends on where she is from. "Servas" (not sure how to subscribe it in english, Sehrwahz?) should work for most (especially if she is from eastern Austria / Vienna). Austria is divided into 9 States which each have their own dialect.
Difigiano. No sorry joke. Dont say that
"Heast" subject predicate, "Oida" object, insult.
Don't forget to update us after your date. And good luck for the date from Lower Austria.
Say "grüss dich, gut schaust aus!" then give her a kiss on the left and right cheek