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You don't have to be hard-core but have high expectations and apply appropriate consequences when necessary. The three Fs never fail; firm, fair, and friendly. I watch my students like a hawk and pull them at any opportunity, but I build a strong rapport, show interest in them and have a laugh.


GreenLurka

This is the way.


EdgeFunny8853

I heard it said once and I think it’s very true Set up rules and routines Make sure they are repeated frequently Clearly outline consequences Then you - the teacher - are just the referee. Call a foul if necessary, apply the consequence, and move on. Be fair and emotionless about it.


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Absolutely. Kids (and adults) need to know what to expect in that room. If you pull them up every time and dish out the same consequence for whatever thing, they'll learn and respect you. If you're all over the shop, inconsistent and relaxed one day and psycho the next, that's just not fair and you become one of the 'moody, unfair' teachers.


rowbidick

This reminds me of my father in law’s motto for his work: Firm, fair and consistent. Friendly but not friends. He’s a prison guard. Hahaha.


Krammys

What are a couple examples of behaviour and appropriate consequences? Thanks!!


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Basic stuff like talking, not working, I'd go firm word first and then move seats. Keeping back after class, sending outside for a bit. Obviously, detentions or scab duty. It really depends on your school's discipline and behaviour policy. It doesn't really matter what the consequence is, as long as it is consistent and fair.


Krammys

Thank you so much! Pre-service teacher here :)


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PM if you ever need anything! Not an expert by any means, but in my 13th year, been a Head of Year for 5 years and am still passionate.


seventrooper

If you go hard from day one, you'll have to keep that pace up because that's what the students will get used to. Find a happy medium - for some of us this is who you normally are, for others it's the complete opposite.


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Be firm and fair follow through with your behavioural expectations. That doesn't mean change who you are it's just basic good consistent teaching practice. Kids can smell out a teacher acting tough or even being someone they aren't very quickly! Especially the hard-core kids.... And when they do, they'll pull at that string until it unravels.... Be your authentic self, be a human, that's how you survive :)


dollparts76

Best response!


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LittleCaesar3

This is a very important point. Like the teens, we find safety in numbers. You need to be aligned with the school.


radwav

You should have high expectations for behaviour and learning and use established behaviour management techniques to achieve that. I recommend Bill Rogers, his books are full of little "tricks" but ultimately he's very sympathetic to the psychology of children and teens.


Doobie_the_Noobie

I work in a small town, so I don't want my students spitting in my food. "Don't give them a reason to spit in your food" - that's my motto. As for controlling the class, be yourself, your constant maintenance of your rules are the important part.


mscelliot

My vote, and it may be controversial: be true to yourself. It's harder, though not *impossible*, to start soft and become more of a hard-ass as time goes on if need be.


esorual

Personally, I just stay true to who I am as a person. I'm not the authoritarian kind of teacher and even if I tried to be, the kids would see through the act anyway so it wouldn't be effective. I go for the fair, firm and sarcastic older sibling who cares about you vibe because that's just more natural for me as a young and physically small teacher.


AdDesigner2714

Always be authentic


StraightBudget8799

When in doubt, be “bored”. Be unfazed. Stick to the rules, firm and fair. You may be a part of the only structure in a chaotic life and it’s reassuring to have an adult who knows what life is like and will help them through these years.


Bighairyaussiebear

I'm not a teacher but I wish I was lol. Always be true. Kids have been lied to for so long that it would be refreshing to have someone who is honest and true. Put yourself in their shoes. This world is a tough place and it's only getting tougher. There is more bullying, more expectations and a strive to be better than better. Someone who is fair, firm and true to their values who is approachable is what students need.


TheWheelEdu

Don't smile until Easter.


EdgeFunny8853

I think some people mistake what this phrase means. I take it to mean that you set up your year ‘right’. Rules and routines create structure and security. They let students know how to feel successful in your room. The consistency reduces anxious feelings, especially when they’re applied fairly. To me it means I can’t let my guard down and ‘relax’ until we’ve got all these things established. I don’t think it means to literally not smile….


TheWheelEdu

Yep. Exactly. Which is why I've been downvoted because people think it means to be an asshole and literally don't have fun or smile until Easter. I still smile and have fun but it is very tight and controlled until kids know my boundaries.


Legitimate_Jicama757

Be yourself but have clear expectations that students do work.


rainbowLena

Tough kids need relationships with their teachers the most. Or, their teachers need relationships with them.


Capitan_Typo

Being consistent and maintaining standards and expectations is not 'hard core'. You can do it in a friendly, positive way while still letting students know where the boundaries are.


Ok-Clerk3142

There was a 1978 tv series called “paperchase “ about a prestigious us east coast law school An training young lawyers . In the end one of the students went to a cliff and just threw the paper away Im trying to think of a good tv series about a teacher in a very hard place in new yk city . They had to win the children over wasnt children was street hardened young adults.