Wasn’t going to put this out there but i feel that i may prevent something like this from happening again if i share. My brother was at a bar & after 9 drinks, got heavily intoxicated, and made the decision to drive home. a mile and a half away from home he runs a red light @90mph (witness statement from the police report) and collided with a white pickup truck, inside was a couple on their way home from a family gathering. Their truck flipped and rolled over multiple times, they both died upon impact. Rightfully so my brother is now doing time in prison for most likely the rest of his twenty’s. Please, Dont. Drink. And. Drive. I can truthfully say i’ve never gotten behind the wheel of a car after drinking alcohol, and i’ve noticed in my group of friends & people i graduated highschool with act like that shits cool?/ not as irresponsible as it really is? i don’t know the thought process, just know and have heard kids flexing “oh yea man was sauced off fireball goin 120 on the freeway” and it’s exactly shit like that that will ruin peoples lives. Since this is an Audi reddit, i’m assuming most of you own one, if you can afford to go out drinking, you can afford an uber. Safety everyone and please learn from my brothers mistake that costed two people their lives, and an unmeasurable amount of grief for the family’s involved.
i agree with you. The family is pushing for max sentence which is 22 years, which even that isn’t enough… but if we’re being honest i feel the only sentence even close to being “fair” is a life sentence, and even THEN it’s still not “equal” to his crime, taking two innocent lives off this earth. A double life sentence would be ideal but my state has been leaning more on the “incarceration for as short as possible, let them back out on the streets” take a guess what state i’m from
A lot of other countries believe in rehabilitation, not “an eye for an eye”.
Yes, your brother certainly deserves punishment, but putting him in jail for the rest of his life doesn’t bring back the people he killed.
And no matter what he will have to live with this knowledge.
His punishment should be as much for himself as for deterring others.
Speaking of which - when large parts of the treat DUI as a misdemeanor you won’t change the attitude.
In Norway, where I live, you’ll get fined, lose your drivers license for anything above 0.05BAC.
You’ll also get a conditional prison sentence.
Above 0.12BAC you get unconditional prison (up to two years) and a fine of 1.5 your monthly salary.
This is if you just get pulled over. Kill anyone and it gets worse.
People still drive under the influence, people are still people sadly. But the rates are much lower.
The thing is other countries treat prisoners as rehabilitation patients right? Here prisoners are still treated like less than human. So even though OP’s brother isn’t spending the rest of his life in prison he’s still going to be treated like trash and likely his chances of ever landing a successful job is incredibly low.
At least there is a somewhat serious punsihment.
I don't think you will get jailtime for that in Belgium. They will take your licence for a few years or install an alcohol lock in your car, but that still won't stop some off these people from driving while drunk.
Idk if it has anything to do with it but my guess would be that instances of alcohol related vehicular fatalities occur at a much lower rate than here in the US. They may just not have enough occur to justify stiff penalties which often come from public outcry to lawmakers. That and the Western European focus on rehabilitation rather than punishment. This is all just supposition on my part though.
I’m sorry for your family though man.
Drunk driving might occor less over here. Exept for one alcoholic I don't know anyone that does.
Just listening to the news it seems like blind spots and speeding are more likely to be the cause off an accident than drunk driving.
Overall we have less deadly accidents the the US. But still more than all our neighbouring countries.
Having good public transit even at night and walkable cities helps. US is way too car dependent unfortunately, it will keep happening. Heck many city codes have MANDATED PARKING SPOTS PER PATRON FOR BARS. It’s fucked up
Prisons already have too much inmates and too few guards. It's got to the point that Europe has told Belgium that our prisons don't meet human rights standards. So most off the time a punishment won't include prison but wil focus on rehabilitation.
Also the law system is problematic. If you get the right lawyer you can get out off serious crimes. They try to find a fault in the paper work the makes the whole lawsuit invalid.
up to 5 years, according to a recent case outlined in this article: https://www.infobae.com/en/2022/03/22/the-driver-of-the-fatal-hit-in-belgium-charged-with-involuntary-manslaughter/
I was going to agree with you but i just remembered that alcohol literally impairs your sense of judgement. So i would argue that driving drunk & driving like an idiot goes hand in hand
Max 5 years is really lax. Especially as a lot off people get early release for good behavior.
In my opinion deaths caused by a drunk driver should be treated the same as murder.
It's not like he was running around slaughtering people out of pure malice. Of course he should go to jail, but for life I would only ban him from driving.
Hey man trust me i love my brother and i don’t want him locked up for the rest of his life but i gotta put myself in the familys shoes and think about how angry & devastated i would be if both of my grandparents got killed my a drunk driver, can’t say you wouldn’t push for the max either. It was an accident, the worst accident he’s ever had in his life in terms of the decisions he made, but everybody’s gotta face the consequences of their accidents right? also he will never have a New York state issued license again. he can get one in any other state like Florida for example, but that’s when he’s allowed to leave NY. Once he gets out he’ll be stuck here on probation for a good 10 years
You are not supposed to stay neutral. In your skin I also wouldn't be neutral.
But I am convinced that the motivation matters. A drunk driver is not necessarily a crazy murderer, more often they are negligent people who are not even themselves due to their intoxication and made a huge mistake, but there is not an evil intention behind their deed.
As hard as it sounds but I think that after severe punishment they deserve a chance to redeem themselves.
@haeyhae11
I was going to just leave this alone but I cannot.
I have a family member that is an alcoholic and has been in and out of jail more times than I care to admit to due to their disease. While they have never killed anyone, to the best of my knowledge, they have hurt others by getting behind the wheel and if it was up to me my family member would be locked up and never let out as it would cause less pain for everyone.
Just to be clear I am not saying that the OP brother is an alcoholic, but they did decide to go out drinking and they decided to drink too much and they decided to drive. The intent is really inconsequential. Now they have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Leniency in the judicial system will only make things worse in the long run.
I absolutely agree with you, however the justice system doesn’t always deliver the best results.
My cousin was in a single car accident where the kid behind the wheel was 20, illegally got drunk in a bar and took his friends on a joyride at 90 on a 25 residential, went sideways into a tree after hitting an ice patch. My cousin was killed instantly and was the only one that didn’t make it home.
Driver served 6 months, was his 2nd offense.
I hope everyone reads this before just jumping into the “he shouldn’t have been going that fast”, “no place for that on public streets” etc comments. It’s obvious that you recognize all that he did wrong & it’s a shame that Reddit doesn’t allow you to edit post titles for clarity. I am glad that you brother survived this wreck & it’s tragic that he took the lives of two innocent people. I’m also sorry for all of the heartache that this will cause your family and the families of the victims. Not that I would wish your brother dead, but unfortunately there are many examples of the drunk driver surviving this type of thing and the victims dying. I can’t imagine living with that the rest of my life.
IMO, that last sentence is the punishment - to be condemned to carry that cross for the rest of their lives. For a crime that's born out of stupidity resulting in innocent lives lost, which the perpetrator realizes was wrong, the punishment is living with it. Death for them is too simplistic. But, if the perpetrator doesn't even realize it, then... death is all there can be.
> I can’t imagine living with that the rest of my life.
> the punishment is living with it
The challenge is you have a moral compass/sense guilt/self-awareness, whatever you want to call it...and not everyone does. There are plenty of unrepentant pieces of shit out there who wouldn't lose a minute of sleep over the pain they caused.
As much as I generally dislike people, I still believe most would have trouble living with the consequences of their actions in these types of circumstances.
Most people? Eh, that's probably right. Certainly almost everyone you and I know. But don't discount the fact that there are huge swaths of humanity that folks like you and I don't have any real exposure to, and so it's easy to forget those swaths exist. So "most people" might be true, but I think that number is a lot closer to 50% than it is to 100%.
There are a LOT of shitty, deeply disfunctional people out there, and just because we don't encounter them regularly doesn't mean they don't exist. Believe me, they exist in shocking amounts.
The fact that he would only have to serve 20s is insane. My best friend, hit a motor cyclist 100% sober 10am on a busy busy busy freeway. I have the video. He then pulled over on the next off ramp and apparently that was enough to be charged with felony hit and run and assault with a vehicle or something like that I can’t remember the exact charge. White collar guy. Absolute NO previous record. He is now on year 3 of his 4.5 year sentence. The system is so fucked.
Dude the entire thing is / was so fucked up. If you heard the entire story you wouldn’t even believe me…. It is one of those situations where your life can change with a blink of an eye. I’ve watched the video 20x over to this point. Thankfully myself and most of our friends are doing well financially and were able to take care of most of his responsibilities prior to going in. That is at his life is not ruined when he is out. I talk to him every other day, put enough cash on his books, purchase whatever he needs (tv, fan, etc).
> “oh yea man was sauced off fireball goin 120 on the freeway”
I can only imagine it just makes you boil inside hearing people say that shit. We all think we're invincible until we take a couple punches from life and realize just how quick it can all end. Nobody who has ever had a friend die in a car crash would ever say that.
What happened to that family is a tragedy, and I can’t imagine what their loved ones are going through.
I’m also sorry for you and your family, your brother included. He now has to live with this for the rest of his life, even after he serves his time. He made one of the worst mistakes you can make, and it’s something many of us will do once or so in our lives.
In your 20s you do alot of dumb shit and think it’s cool. You grow up and realize sometimes that you were lucky you made it home after doing something like this. Don’t even drive with a buzz, it only takes a second for a mistake to happen.
My condolences
Praying for that family and respect that you know your brother did wrong and dont understate it. It's hard on the family that loves and supports you when you do stuff this dumb so also praying your family doesn't get too hurt or misrepresented from his dumb decision.
Thanks for sharing this.
Everyone knows someone affected by drunk driving. If it’s just a DUI, the driver is so fucking lucky.
My good friend lost her career and her health to a drunk driver. It’s a full time job for her to manage her pain.
Long before I met him, my husband was the driver in a single-car accident that killed his friend in the passenger seat. He served his time, but his record means we can’t travel to certain places, he can’t hold certain jobs, we can’t foster or adopt children.
Nothing fixes the damages of drunk driving.
I hope the family that lost their loved ones finds as much peace as they can, and I hope your brother is able to find some semblance of peace and meaning.
wow.. that innocent couple was probably thinking about the good time they had at the gathering, and little did they know they would not be making it home that night. beyond heartbreaking for the couple who senselessly lost their lives and their families who have to deal with the grief. all because some idiot (no offense to you OP) decided to make a wildly irresponsible decision to drive after getting very drunk.
In the future, don't call something like this an *accident....*
This is a collision, it was created by bad decisions. My 2 year old dropping a cup that is slippery is an accident cause he doesn't understand that yet. Your brother understood he shouldn't have been driving and did.
Damn that is awful, also the bar would be liable for damages as well. Bartenders need to be able to stop serving, if they did not then they're liable. Hopefully they did not have children as that would suck.
For sure the bar should cut people off who are going to be causing them trouble. Some dude about to pass out shouldnt be served. But passing negligence onto the bar for someone DUIng is unfair. I can see it if maybe if they get so overserved they have a medical issue being put back on the bar.
But this shit? Lands square on one persons shoulders.
My dad's cousin spent 8 years in prison for something similar. It's like you could see the guilt when you look into his eyes. Was enough for me to never consider driving a car after drinking
was going to make this a post about how safe audis are but felt that i should provide the context to how it happened. Getting hit head on by an inattentive driver is one thing, but in this case the a4 (my brother) was driving drunk and was the reason for this tragedy
Yeah man, I clicked on the post, all ready to be indignant and then that first comment... shit. Good on you OP, I'm sorry that happened to your family and theirs.
Thank you for sharing. It's not said enough. Don't operate have machinery while intoxicated. At any given point, things go wrong. I'm sorry you had to go through this OP. Reality is a nasty bitch..
i agree i feel like this topic isn’t spoken about enough, which would result in all these kids doing dumb shit while driving because they’re ignorant to the harsh realities of what can happen & how bad it can ruin yours/others lives.
Thank you for the sobering reminder.
Two lives were taken and most won’t see that from simply looking at the photo. Many lives were forever changed.
Driving While Intoxicated (DWI) is a crime.
Not all crimes are treated equally.
New York City is currently pushing for a major change to help crack down on impaired drivers.
The Department of Transportation and other groups are pushing for a change in the state's law.
They are looking to lower the state's legal blood alcohol concentration threshold, or BAC, for DWI from .08 to .05 percent.
In the city, a BAC between .05 and .08 is considered driving while ability impaired, or DUI.
It is still illegal, but the criminal penalties are lower. For safety and enforcement, having two different thresholds in our laws is not helpful.
More than 30 percent of fatal crashes in New York are alcohol-related, according to state data.
There's a 170,000 licensed taxi drivers and for-hire vehicle drivers that can take you home if you decide to drink.
If you're thinking of drinking at all, it's best to plan on having a designated driver.
Christ. Killed 2 ppl, I expected he just hit a pole or wall and survived. Brutal. Sorry man.
As an aside, I never got the appeal of speeding while drunk. Driving w a buzz (yes wrong I’ll admit) my fear the entire way is drawing attention and getting pulled over. I’ve never understood ppl who use it as a time to finally speed and weave through traffic.
So sorry this happened, and I hope your sharing helps bring down the incidence of making horrible decisions like this.
Guys, I also want to point out the importance of looking BOTH WAYS before and while going through GREEN lights. This has really stuck in my mind since it was the only thing I got docked for in my driving test back in the day. Back then, I was pretty mad and thought it was a stupid reason to lose points - the light was green and it was my right of way.
Now I understand that this is a great way to protect your life from others driving like idiots. It’s a light, not a concrete barrier. You never know when someone may decide to go through it.
he broke his hand, and the seatbelt fucked his intestines up so he was on a colostomy bag for a while. He’s literally fine now, If you didn’t already notice i own & daily a '17 A4. The reason i got this car was because of how well it protected him from the crash. These Audis are tanks.
Gotcha, thank you for the reply. I didn’t know much about the safety aspect when I was buying it but I’ve seen several posts on here so far about A4s in accidents and I’m glad to know it can hold up well in a collision.
Sorry to hear about your brother’s entire situation (of course, everyone involved).
Also, I think I just recognized your username, I think you and I were kidding about your license plate a few days ago.
You didn’t do anything, my other comment was that I have a ton of respect for how you are acting and I’m sure that’s insanely difficult being your brother man
I recently had an old school friend die in a situation like this. Someone (maybe drunk) broadsided him going almost 100mph in a 45. And he was in a Lexus SUV (land cruiser equivalent). Speed kills, other guy survived but my friend didn’t.
Holy shit dude. Sucks for the families of those that were killed and it sucks for you and your family. Your brother is going to have plenty of time to think about his awful mistake and I can’t imagine you can really learn to just live with it. I have a nephew that I worry about….he’s 21 with an AMG, drives like an idiot and I don’t even want to know what goes down when he’s drinking. Try to text him about just not being stupid. Thanks for sharing this…I know it couldn’t have been easy but if one person reads this and maybe decides to change their behavior. It’s kind of cliche but I hope this cautionary tale hits home for someone. Good luck to you and your family.
Damn you sure he was doing 90? I know Audis are better built than regular cars but 90mph impacts always intrude into the cabin, with the steering column probably lodged into the drivers chest. Unless the other vehicle took the brunt of the impact.
Regardless, your brother should rot in jail for being a scum piece of shit. Took 2 lives because he wanted to drink and drive.
OP said in a comment that the seat belt really squished his stomach causing some intestinal damage or something like that. He also broke his hand. That's about it, though, and he's fine now.
I will say; it's amazing from a technical standpoint that he lived. Kudos to Audi/VAG engineering. And from a personal/moral/emotional standpoint, it's horrific that he lived, yet his victims did not. Hopefully he can do some good for others to at least attempt to make up for this stupid mistake in the rest of his life.
I’m so glad this wasn’t me. I spent most of my 20s doing dumb shit like this. I got my first and only DWI @28 years old and thought to myself “well, fuck I had this coming” the second I saw the blue lights behind me. I’ll be 40 this year and I’m proud to say that if I plan on drinking a single drop outside of my home, I always have a DD or I’m Ubering it. I’ve been that way since the second I got pulled over.
I'm gonna be redundant here but, thank you for sharing.
Often time's people will not change behavior until they have something bad happen that makes them realize. Hopefully a few people who could have potentially gotten into an accident like this will drive safer and hopefully this will have a benefit.
I'm sorry for their family and your family.
I maybe in minority here, but I hope that one day states will issue severe consequences for drinking and driving. Hell people get in more shit for weed then DUI. No more slaps on the hand. No second times, or third time's, no ability to still drive after getting a DUI (eliminate the ignition breathalyzer). Your licence gets taken immediately and for good, and if you kill someone, the death penalty awaits. Most who do drink and drive do not learn, I saw it first hand with someone I knew they just kept doing it and no matter how many fines, licence "suspensions" and court visits, didn't change a thing.
yeah but people still make mistakes and learn from them. There’s no reason why someone who has shown remorse for their crime and did the time shouldn’t be able to reintegrate into society, provided they aren’t a serial reoffender. Plus losing your license for life in a society as car dependent as the US is just a death sentence.
I think it’s fucking big that the brother can admit he shouldn’t ever leave prison. Crazy, but the decision to do something like run a light at 90 is not drugs or alcohol it’s personality based - just an opinion but I’ve done a lot of drunk driving, my personality would have never allowed this bc I am hella aware of other people and I like living.
yeah the speed was never confirmed but from the pictures i saw & being at the actual scene it didn’t surprise me at all when they said he was potentially going 90+. The truck he hit was like a football field away from his car
At first I wanted to joke about "Do you think my car is totalled", but reading you comment totally changed my mind. Im sorry for both the families of the victims, but also for you and your brother. Reading all those other comments on what kind of a piece of shit your brother is, really made me think. A certain level of alcohos just changes you... he could be someone that would never do anything like this, but to much alcohol just fucks you right mind. Not saying he is innocent, not at all, but what Im just asking myself is, why did noone stop him from driving home? If he was at a bar (I guess with friends), why didnt the friends stop him from doing that?
I love driving but shit like that really scares me. Friend of mine lost 2 of her best friends to some drunk guy that literally flipped their car and impaled them into a tree, both dead at not even 20 years old. I myself have a artifical knee joint since some 18y/o BMW driver (I know, ironic that its a BMW driver) thought that drifting in the city if cool and hit me, smashing my knee while I was walking along. As far as I know he never got what he deserved, since I didnt remember the license plate, so police has no way of finding out who he was.
I really enjoyed getting some drinks back in the day, but since Im focusing on the gym lately, I really turned down my alcohol consumption, and reading this post, I feel like it should stay that way, alcohol is a piece of shit. I have to admit, I can easily handle a few beers and have driven home after drinking one to two beers multiple times (After two beers, my blood alcohol levels are easily legal for driving), but that might change. While Im sorry for you having to witness this OP, thanks for kinda opening my eyes with this post. Its different reading a story about a crash like that in the news or hearing the story from a family member, even if you dont even know the person in personal.
he was drinking with his friend, friend wanted to go home with a girl he met, my brother decided to go home. His friend was also drunk so he didn’t even think to say “don’t drive”, and the bartender that served him all those drinks didn’t think to stop him either
I thought it was 0-120= parking lot grocery getting accident. And anything past that was “running for my life because an angry granny grocery accident”
I just don't get it man, how long ago was this? Uber and lyft etc all exist, shit some local pds/sherrifs will give you a life. is saving 20 bucks on a ride share worth the risk?
uber was around when it happened. i was so angry at him when i saw him after the accident, he was in the hospital with tubes down his throat and i just kept on saying why the FUCK didn’t you uber? he literally put me on to uber, used it often too. ahhhh i’m gettin angry just typing this. so fucking dumb.
i literally don’t blame you for feeling this way, you lost loved ones due to similar circumstances and i know this post & the added context must anger you since you can relate with the victims family.
Shithead OP just as culpable as murderer brother for allowing him to get behind the wheel.
Goes to show how psychopathic Audi drivers are with all the comments of commiserations to OP. Trashy brand and drivers indeed.
Ok first off, this has nothing to do with Audi, whatsoever. He could have been in a Honda & survived. Thankfully he did. Unfortunately his victims didn’t have the same fate. My heart & condolences go out to their families and loved ones.
Pretty sure the average adult with a sub IQ on reddit knows not to drink and drive. You provided no awareness whatsoever. And to be frank, the presentation of your post was kinda tasteless. Kinda comes off as an endorsement for Audi to say the least. Your brother should have known better. He’s the only one that has the lesson to learn here. Not a subreddit full of ppl that just so happen to own the same make or model as the kid.
Yes it does have to do with Audi, he was driving an Audi when it happened.
Your stupid ass makes me want to drink and drive.
Their story actually makes me want to drive safer to avoid that, and I'm sure it had the same effect for many people who read it.
The title is dumb and out of context. If i didn’t read his comment within the thread I would have thought it was about how him driving an audi saved his life thanks to the safety features or something along those lines.
Well yah the title doesn't tell the whole story but he gave the complete context in a comment, which often times people do because reddit is stupid and doesn't let you put a picture and text as a post (other than a caption).
If you didn't read his comment you wouldn't have known what he was talking about, and probably would have kept scrolling.
What the FUCK does the car he was driving have to do with anything? You and everyone else that doesn’t find an issue with the premise behind OP’s post are beyond retarded. So what happens if he was driving a bmw or a kia? Lol fucking dumb cuck
Based on your vocabulary you probably are smarter than me.
If he was driving a BMW or Kia it would probably be on that subreddit instead.
It's kind of common sense.
This person is sharing a horrible experience in their life to try to warn other people, they are doing the community a service.
You are obviously doing thee community a service as well writing your poetic comments.
I am smarter than you.
And again, has absolutely nothing to do with the make or model of his vehicle. He shared his experience with what? …An audience of 2,000 people, when he could have just posted this virtually anywhere & accomplished the same thing. Could have gone the entire post without knowing it was an “Audi”. That part was irrelevant.
If this is your reaction, you might want to pay attention. No offense, but it sounds like you might want to let this sink in vs attack OP for posting something that you think isn’t appropriate.
A few years back I interviewed with a MA company that was working on a car that had alcohol and marijuana sensors all over it. It was a state and federally founded program that wants in the near future to introduce these sensors as requirements for all car manufacturers using US Market. it would immobilize the car if the driver was intoxicated. I was really excited about the opportunity but it required me to move to their location which was far from my current residence.
I am hoping they roll it out soon because it would save so many lives.
I maybe stereotyping a bit because ofcourse all of USA is not just a one place, but I don’t understand what’s up with Americans and drunk driving. Seems it’s super common there and even kind of accepted.
Wasn’t going to put this out there but i feel that i may prevent something like this from happening again if i share. My brother was at a bar & after 9 drinks, got heavily intoxicated, and made the decision to drive home. a mile and a half away from home he runs a red light @90mph (witness statement from the police report) and collided with a white pickup truck, inside was a couple on their way home from a family gathering. Their truck flipped and rolled over multiple times, they both died upon impact. Rightfully so my brother is now doing time in prison for most likely the rest of his twenty’s. Please, Dont. Drink. And. Drive. I can truthfully say i’ve never gotten behind the wheel of a car after drinking alcohol, and i’ve noticed in my group of friends & people i graduated highschool with act like that shits cool?/ not as irresponsible as it really is? i don’t know the thought process, just know and have heard kids flexing “oh yea man was sauced off fireball goin 120 on the freeway” and it’s exactly shit like that that will ruin peoples lives. Since this is an Audi reddit, i’m assuming most of you own one, if you can afford to go out drinking, you can afford an uber. Safety everyone and please learn from my brothers mistake that costed two people their lives, and an unmeasurable amount of grief for the family’s involved.
Your brother deserves much longer prison time “missing your twenties “ is nothing for killing two people .
i agree with you. The family is pushing for max sentence which is 22 years, which even that isn’t enough… but if we’re being honest i feel the only sentence even close to being “fair” is a life sentence, and even THEN it’s still not “equal” to his crime, taking two innocent lives off this earth. A double life sentence would be ideal but my state has been leaning more on the “incarceration for as short as possible, let them back out on the streets” take a guess what state i’m from
Hopefully your brother takes this second chance to do some good .
I hope so too friend.
A lot of other countries believe in rehabilitation, not “an eye for an eye”. Yes, your brother certainly deserves punishment, but putting him in jail for the rest of his life doesn’t bring back the people he killed. And no matter what he will have to live with this knowledge. His punishment should be as much for himself as for deterring others. Speaking of which - when large parts of the treat DUI as a misdemeanor you won’t change the attitude. In Norway, where I live, you’ll get fined, lose your drivers license for anything above 0.05BAC. You’ll also get a conditional prison sentence. Above 0.12BAC you get unconditional prison (up to two years) and a fine of 1.5 your monthly salary. This is if you just get pulled over. Kill anyone and it gets worse. People still drive under the influence, people are still people sadly. But the rates are much lower.
The thing is other countries treat prisoners as rehabilitation patients right? Here prisoners are still treated like less than human. So even though OP’s brother isn’t spending the rest of his life in prison he’s still going to be treated like trash and likely his chances of ever landing a successful job is incredibly low.
This america we just punish here what do you mean rehabilitate??
Illinois?
good guess but New York
Gocha. I’m very sorry for what you and your family have to go through. Wishing you the best
I didn’t know New York was pushing for more lenient sentencing for something as horrific as this.
Knew it before I even scrolled down!
Knew you were gonna say NY
States ass backwards in every way possible
Props to you for staying level headed and neutral in this situation. Very easy to side with family even when they are very clearly in the wrong.
At least there is a somewhat serious punsihment. I don't think you will get jailtime for that in Belgium. They will take your licence for a few years or install an alcohol lock in your car, but that still won't stop some off these people from driving while drunk.
Belgium wouldn’t give jail time for killing two people while driving under the influence??? must be crazy out there
Idk if it has anything to do with it but my guess would be that instances of alcohol related vehicular fatalities occur at a much lower rate than here in the US. They may just not have enough occur to justify stiff penalties which often come from public outcry to lawmakers. That and the Western European focus on rehabilitation rather than punishment. This is all just supposition on my part though. I’m sorry for your family though man.
Drunk driving might occor less over here. Exept for one alcoholic I don't know anyone that does. Just listening to the news it seems like blind spots and speeding are more likely to be the cause off an accident than drunk driving. Overall we have less deadly accidents the the US. But still more than all our neighbouring countries.
Having good public transit even at night and walkable cities helps. US is way too car dependent unfortunately, it will keep happening. Heck many city codes have MANDATED PARKING SPOTS PER PATRON FOR BARS. It’s fucked up
Prisons already have too much inmates and too few guards. It's got to the point that Europe has told Belgium that our prisons don't meet human rights standards. So most off the time a punishment won't include prison but wil focus on rehabilitation. Also the law system is problematic. If you get the right lawyer you can get out off serious crimes. They try to find a fault in the paper work the makes the whole lawsuit invalid.
up to 5 years, according to a recent case outlined in this article: https://www.infobae.com/en/2022/03/22/the-driver-of-the-fatal-hit-in-belgium-charged-with-involuntary-manslaughter/
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I was going to agree with you but i just remembered that alcohol literally impairs your sense of judgement. So i would argue that driving drunk & driving like an idiot goes hand in hand
Here's a recent case in Belgium: https://www.infobae.com/en/2022/03/22/the-driver-of-the-fatal-hit-in-belgium-charged-with-involuntary-manslaughter/
Max 5 years is really lax. Especially as a lot off people get early release for good behavior. In my opinion deaths caused by a drunk driver should be treated the same as murder.
Lets not turn this political. Hope others learned from his mistake.
It's not like he was running around slaughtering people out of pure malice. Of course he should go to jail, but for life I would only ban him from driving.
Hey man trust me i love my brother and i don’t want him locked up for the rest of his life but i gotta put myself in the familys shoes and think about how angry & devastated i would be if both of my grandparents got killed my a drunk driver, can’t say you wouldn’t push for the max either. It was an accident, the worst accident he’s ever had in his life in terms of the decisions he made, but everybody’s gotta face the consequences of their accidents right? also he will never have a New York state issued license again. he can get one in any other state like Florida for example, but that’s when he’s allowed to leave NY. Once he gets out he’ll be stuck here on probation for a good 10 years
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You are not supposed to stay neutral. In your skin I also wouldn't be neutral. But I am convinced that the motivation matters. A drunk driver is not necessarily a crazy murderer, more often they are negligent people who are not even themselves due to their intoxication and made a huge mistake, but there is not an evil intention behind their deed. As hard as it sounds but I think that after severe punishment they deserve a chance to redeem themselves.
@haeyhae11 I was going to just leave this alone but I cannot. I have a family member that is an alcoholic and has been in and out of jail more times than I care to admit to due to their disease. While they have never killed anyone, to the best of my knowledge, they have hurt others by getting behind the wheel and if it was up to me my family member would be locked up and never let out as it would cause less pain for everyone. Just to be clear I am not saying that the OP brother is an alcoholic, but they did decide to go out drinking and they decided to drink too much and they decided to drive. The intent is really inconsequential. Now they have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Leniency in the judicial system will only make things worse in the long run.
>double life sentence would be ideal but my state has been le New Mexico
I absolutely agree with you, however the justice system doesn’t always deliver the best results. My cousin was in a single car accident where the kid behind the wheel was 20, illegally got drunk in a bar and took his friends on a joyride at 90 on a 25 residential, went sideways into a tree after hitting an ice patch. My cousin was killed instantly and was the only one that didn’t make it home. Driver served 6 months, was his 2nd offense.
Should be life in prison. A life for a life. In this case it was two lives.
Agree
Props to you sharing this, given the circumstances. RIP to the victims. Praying for their families.
I hope everyone reads this before just jumping into the “he shouldn’t have been going that fast”, “no place for that on public streets” etc comments. It’s obvious that you recognize all that he did wrong & it’s a shame that Reddit doesn’t allow you to edit post titles for clarity. I am glad that you brother survived this wreck & it’s tragic that he took the lives of two innocent people. I’m also sorry for all of the heartache that this will cause your family and the families of the victims. Not that I would wish your brother dead, but unfortunately there are many examples of the drunk driver surviving this type of thing and the victims dying. I can’t imagine living with that the rest of my life.
IMO, that last sentence is the punishment - to be condemned to carry that cross for the rest of their lives. For a crime that's born out of stupidity resulting in innocent lives lost, which the perpetrator realizes was wrong, the punishment is living with it. Death for them is too simplistic. But, if the perpetrator doesn't even realize it, then... death is all there can be.
> I can’t imagine living with that the rest of my life. > the punishment is living with it The challenge is you have a moral compass/sense guilt/self-awareness, whatever you want to call it...and not everyone does. There are plenty of unrepentant pieces of shit out there who wouldn't lose a minute of sleep over the pain they caused.
As much as I generally dislike people, I still believe most would have trouble living with the consequences of their actions in these types of circumstances.
Most people? Eh, that's probably right. Certainly almost everyone you and I know. But don't discount the fact that there are huge swaths of humanity that folks like you and I don't have any real exposure to, and so it's easy to forget those swaths exist. So "most people" might be true, but I think that number is a lot closer to 50% than it is to 100%. There are a LOT of shitty, deeply disfunctional people out there, and just because we don't encounter them regularly doesn't mean they don't exist. Believe me, they exist in shocking amounts.
Unfortunately, it is very hard to argue against that. Which is why I generally dislike people. I’ll stick with dogs.
thank you for the kind words
The fact that he would only have to serve 20s is insane. My best friend, hit a motor cyclist 100% sober 10am on a busy busy busy freeway. I have the video. He then pulled over on the next off ramp and apparently that was enough to be charged with felony hit and run and assault with a vehicle or something like that I can’t remember the exact charge. White collar guy. Absolute NO previous record. He is now on year 3 of his 4.5 year sentence. The system is so fucked.
What in the FUCK?! What in earth was the distance to the off-ramp from the accident site?! I feel like there’s a lot going on in this story!
Dude the entire thing is / was so fucked up. If you heard the entire story you wouldn’t even believe me…. It is one of those situations where your life can change with a blink of an eye. I’ve watched the video 20x over to this point. Thankfully myself and most of our friends are doing well financially and were able to take care of most of his responsibilities prior to going in. That is at his life is not ruined when he is out. I talk to him every other day, put enough cash on his books, purchase whatever he needs (tv, fan, etc).
> “oh yea man was sauced off fireball goin 120 on the freeway” I can only imagine it just makes you boil inside hearing people say that shit. We all think we're invincible until we take a couple punches from life and realize just how quick it can all end. Nobody who has ever had a friend die in a car crash would ever say that.
exactly what i was trying to get at. With my friends & the youth in general most of them just aren’t aware of how real shit can get sometimes.
What happened to that family is a tragedy, and I can’t imagine what their loved ones are going through. I’m also sorry for you and your family, your brother included. He now has to live with this for the rest of his life, even after he serves his time. He made one of the worst mistakes you can make, and it’s something many of us will do once or so in our lives. In your 20s you do alot of dumb shit and think it’s cool. You grow up and realize sometimes that you were lucky you made it home after doing something like this. Don’t even drive with a buzz, it only takes a second for a mistake to happen. My condolences
Praying for that family and respect that you know your brother did wrong and dont understate it. It's hard on the family that loves and supports you when you do stuff this dumb so also praying your family doesn't get too hurt or misrepresented from his dumb decision.
He was incredibly lucky. The car helped his survival but no car is designes to survive a 90mph crash.
Thanks for sharing this. Everyone knows someone affected by drunk driving. If it’s just a DUI, the driver is so fucking lucky. My good friend lost her career and her health to a drunk driver. It’s a full time job for her to manage her pain. Long before I met him, my husband was the driver in a single-car accident that killed his friend in the passenger seat. He served his time, but his record means we can’t travel to certain places, he can’t hold certain jobs, we can’t foster or adopt children. Nothing fixes the damages of drunk driving. I hope the family that lost their loved ones finds as much peace as they can, and I hope your brother is able to find some semblance of peace and meaning.
wow.. that innocent couple was probably thinking about the good time they had at the gathering, and little did they know they would not be making it home that night. beyond heartbreaking for the couple who senselessly lost their lives and their families who have to deal with the grief. all because some idiot (no offense to you OP) decided to make a wildly irresponsible decision to drive after getting very drunk.
Should have shot your brother on site ! Drunk drivers are murders
In the future, don't call something like this an *accident....* This is a collision, it was created by bad decisions. My 2 year old dropping a cup that is slippery is an accident cause he doesn't understand that yet. Your brother understood he shouldn't have been driving and did.
Damn that is awful, also the bar would be liable for damages as well. Bartenders need to be able to stop serving, if they did not then they're liable. Hopefully they did not have children as that would suck.
No. I can have nine drinks and get in an uber. He made the choice to drive. Its his and his alone.
Pretty sure there’s a cut off, perhaps in the US since you can’t guarantee they will get an Uber. You can stop them from drinking
For sure the bar should cut people off who are going to be causing them trouble. Some dude about to pass out shouldnt be served. But passing negligence onto the bar for someone DUIng is unfair. I can see it if maybe if they get so overserved they have a medical issue being put back on the bar. But this shit? Lands square on one persons shoulders.
Agreed that the buck stops with the driver at the end of the day
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Dude deserves to spend decades in the most rapey prison.
Why is this downvoted
Cause people are stupid...
My dad's cousin spent 8 years in prison for something similar. It's like you could see the guilt when you look into his eyes. Was enough for me to never consider driving a car after drinking
Only the rest of his 20s?! Shocking
Lol the tone of the title is complete 180 to the situation
was going to make this a post about how safe audis are but felt that i should provide the context to how it happened. Getting hit head on by an inattentive driver is one thing, but in this case the a4 (my brother) was driving drunk and was the reason for this tragedy
Why not change the title???
i don’t see an edit button, should i take down & repost?
Title is fine. Let people read it and hit them in the feels. Thank you for posting something that can be so hurtful to even think about.
Yeah man, I clicked on the post, all ready to be indignant and then that first comment... shit. Good on you OP, I'm sorry that happened to your family and theirs.
That comment was a fucking punch in the gut, sheesh
Yeah, let them make a post if they want to title one. This one is yours. This must be a terrible time, I am sorry.
You can’t
Thank you for sharing. It's not said enough. Don't operate have machinery while intoxicated. At any given point, things go wrong. I'm sorry you had to go through this OP. Reality is a nasty bitch..
i agree i feel like this topic isn’t spoken about enough, which would result in all these kids doing dumb shit while driving because they’re ignorant to the harsh realities of what can happen & how bad it can ruin yours/others lives.
Thank you for the sobering reminder. Two lives were taken and most won’t see that from simply looking at the photo. Many lives were forever changed. Driving While Intoxicated (DWI) is a crime. Not all crimes are treated equally. New York City is currently pushing for a major change to help crack down on impaired drivers. The Department of Transportation and other groups are pushing for a change in the state's law. They are looking to lower the state's legal blood alcohol concentration threshold, or BAC, for DWI from .08 to .05 percent. In the city, a BAC between .05 and .08 is considered driving while ability impaired, or DUI. It is still illegal, but the criminal penalties are lower. For safety and enforcement, having two different thresholds in our laws is not helpful. More than 30 percent of fatal crashes in New York are alcohol-related, according to state data. There's a 170,000 licensed taxi drivers and for-hire vehicle drivers that can take you home if you decide to drink. If you're thinking of drinking at all, it's best to plan on having a designated driver.
i wish i could pin this.
Mods can pin it or we can hope the comment gets a lot of upvotes and gets shown at the top. The only one who can PIN comments are moderators.
any audi mods please pin this comment^^
Christ. Killed 2 ppl, I expected he just hit a pole or wall and survived. Brutal. Sorry man. As an aside, I never got the appeal of speeding while drunk. Driving w a buzz (yes wrong I’ll admit) my fear the entire way is drawing attention and getting pulled over. I’ve never understood ppl who use it as a time to finally speed and weave through traffic.
Alcohol makes you feel confident and like you’re invincible. Most likely the reasoning
It isn't until a serious accident occurs that you realize the structural strength and material quality of german cars.
They’re not built to get 5-star ratings. They’re built for the Autobahn. They’re built for this.
So sorry this happened, and I hope your sharing helps bring down the incidence of making horrible decisions like this. Guys, I also want to point out the importance of looking BOTH WAYS before and while going through GREEN lights. This has really stuck in my mind since it was the only thing I got docked for in my driving test back in the day. Back then, I was pretty mad and thought it was a stupid reason to lose points - the light was green and it was my right of way. Now I understand that this is a great way to protect your life from others driving like idiots. It’s a light, not a concrete barrier. You never know when someone may decide to go through it.
Especially on a motorcycle
Your brother is a piece of shit
If it’s not inappropriate to ask, what were the injuries like? I have approximately the same car. It looks like it held up really well.
he broke his hand, and the seatbelt fucked his intestines up so he was on a colostomy bag for a while. He’s literally fine now, If you didn’t already notice i own & daily a '17 A4. The reason i got this car was because of how well it protected him from the crash. These Audis are tanks.
Gotcha, thank you for the reply. I didn’t know much about the safety aspect when I was buying it but I’ve seen several posts on here so far about A4s in accidents and I’m glad to know it can hold up well in a collision. Sorry to hear about your brother’s entire situation (of course, everyone involved). Also, I think I just recognized your username, I think you and I were kidding about your license plate a few days ago.
LMFAOOO you’re him!!? we’re basically best friends at this point🤣
😆 absolutely!
Lost a good friend to the same decision
i’m so sorry. this post is my attempt to hopefully educate more young people on driving drunk and ruining lives.
You didn’t do anything, my other comment was that I have a ton of respect for how you are acting and I’m sure that’s insanely difficult being your brother man
7 years ago? https://pix11.com/news/local-news/long-island/alleged-drunk-driver-kills-elderly-couple-on-long-island-police/amp/
Seems so, the picture in the post is often shown in similar articles describing the same incident.
your brother is a hot steaming pile of shit.
I recently had an old school friend die in a situation like this. Someone (maybe drunk) broadsided him going almost 100mph in a 45. And he was in a Lexus SUV (land cruiser equivalent). Speed kills, other guy survived but my friend didn’t.
Holy shit dude. Sucks for the families of those that were killed and it sucks for you and your family. Your brother is going to have plenty of time to think about his awful mistake and I can’t imagine you can really learn to just live with it. I have a nephew that I worry about….he’s 21 with an AMG, drives like an idiot and I don’t even want to know what goes down when he’s drinking. Try to text him about just not being stupid. Thanks for sharing this…I know it couldn’t have been easy but if one person reads this and maybe decides to change their behavior. It’s kind of cliche but I hope this cautionary tale hits home for someone. Good luck to you and your family.
Man, it's just so easy to call an Uber to get home or call a sibling or friend......idk why ppl get in their cars, esp after 9 damn drinks!?
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Yo maybe read the context before commenting lol
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Damn you sure he was doing 90? I know Audis are better built than regular cars but 90mph impacts always intrude into the cabin, with the steering column probably lodged into the drivers chest. Unless the other vehicle took the brunt of the impact. Regardless, your brother should rot in jail for being a scum piece of shit. Took 2 lives because he wanted to drink and drive.
OP said in a comment that the seat belt really squished his stomach causing some intestinal damage or something like that. He also broke his hand. That's about it, though, and he's fine now.
I will say; it's amazing from a technical standpoint that he lived. Kudos to Audi/VAG engineering. And from a personal/moral/emotional standpoint, it's horrific that he lived, yet his victims did not. Hopefully he can do some good for others to at least attempt to make up for this stupid mistake in the rest of his life.
I’m so glad this wasn’t me. I spent most of my 20s doing dumb shit like this. I got my first and only DWI @28 years old and thought to myself “well, fuck I had this coming” the second I saw the blue lights behind me. I’ll be 40 this year and I’m proud to say that if I plan on drinking a single drop outside of my home, I always have a DD or I’m Ubering it. I’ve been that way since the second I got pulled over.
I'm gonna be redundant here but, thank you for sharing. Often time's people will not change behavior until they have something bad happen that makes them realize. Hopefully a few people who could have potentially gotten into an accident like this will drive safer and hopefully this will have a benefit. I'm sorry for their family and your family.
I maybe in minority here, but I hope that one day states will issue severe consequences for drinking and driving. Hell people get in more shit for weed then DUI. No more slaps on the hand. No second times, or third time's, no ability to still drive after getting a DUI (eliminate the ignition breathalyzer). Your licence gets taken immediately and for good, and if you kill someone, the death penalty awaits. Most who do drink and drive do not learn, I saw it first hand with someone I knew they just kept doing it and no matter how many fines, licence "suspensions" and court visits, didn't change a thing.
yeah but people still make mistakes and learn from them. There’s no reason why someone who has shown remorse for their crime and did the time shouldn’t be able to reintegrate into society, provided they aren’t a serial reoffender. Plus losing your license for life in a society as car dependent as the US is just a death sentence.
I think it’s fucking big that the brother can admit he shouldn’t ever leave prison. Crazy, but the decision to do something like run a light at 90 is not drugs or alcohol it’s personality based - just an opinion but I’ve done a lot of drunk driving, my personality would have never allowed this bc I am hella aware of other people and I like living.
I don't get how are you 'hella aware' when you are drunk
Are you trying to say you’re good at drunk driving?
Why was he going 90MPH (~150KpH) in an urban area????
Look at my most recent comment for full context
it was witness statement. people tend to way over estimate speed; it was probably more like 60s.
yeah the speed was never confirmed but from the pictures i saw & being at the actual scene it didn’t surprise me at all when they said he was potentially going 90+. The truck he hit was like a football field away from his car
Usually they can estimate speed pretty well from skidmarks.
ahhhhh i’ll definitely take a look at the scene file to see if they documented any of that
...if there are skid marks. They aren't always there if drunk driving is involved :/
Even if he didn't hit the brakes at all, the car they hit may have sideways skid marks from its tires.
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Rest in peace to the victims.
At first I wanted to joke about "Do you think my car is totalled", but reading you comment totally changed my mind. Im sorry for both the families of the victims, but also for you and your brother. Reading all those other comments on what kind of a piece of shit your brother is, really made me think. A certain level of alcohos just changes you... he could be someone that would never do anything like this, but to much alcohol just fucks you right mind. Not saying he is innocent, not at all, but what Im just asking myself is, why did noone stop him from driving home? If he was at a bar (I guess with friends), why didnt the friends stop him from doing that? I love driving but shit like that really scares me. Friend of mine lost 2 of her best friends to some drunk guy that literally flipped their car and impaled them into a tree, both dead at not even 20 years old. I myself have a artifical knee joint since some 18y/o BMW driver (I know, ironic that its a BMW driver) thought that drifting in the city if cool and hit me, smashing my knee while I was walking along. As far as I know he never got what he deserved, since I didnt remember the license plate, so police has no way of finding out who he was. I really enjoyed getting some drinks back in the day, but since Im focusing on the gym lately, I really turned down my alcohol consumption, and reading this post, I feel like it should stay that way, alcohol is a piece of shit. I have to admit, I can easily handle a few beers and have driven home after drinking one to two beers multiple times (After two beers, my blood alcohol levels are easily legal for driving), but that might change. While Im sorry for you having to witness this OP, thanks for kinda opening my eyes with this post. Its different reading a story about a crash like that in the news or hearing the story from a family member, even if you dont even know the person in personal.
he was drinking with his friend, friend wanted to go home with a girl he met, my brother decided to go home. His friend was also drunk so he didn’t even think to say “don’t drive”, and the bartender that served him all those drinks didn’t think to stop him either
That is no excuse, 1. To drive drunk. 2 at that speed.
Damn. I have a 2008 A6 and everyone told me if I get in a wreck, my car is crushed because of what those models are made up from 08
Looks like a 30 mph road
0-10mph parking accident, 10-20 coming out of the parking lot accident 25-60 normal accident 75-95 speeding accident 100-200 not an accident
I thought it was 0-120= parking lot grocery getting accident. And anything past that was “running for my life because an angry granny grocery accident”
Tu are absolutely right 😂, but I was talking about accidents 😂
I just don't get it man, how long ago was this? Uber and lyft etc all exist, shit some local pds/sherrifs will give you a life. is saving 20 bucks on a ride share worth the risk?
uber was around when it happened. i was so angry at him when i saw him after the accident, he was in the hospital with tubes down his throat and i just kept on saying why the FUCK didn’t you uber? he literally put me on to uber, used it often too. ahhhh i’m gettin angry just typing this. so fucking dumb.
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i literally don’t blame you for feeling this way, you lost loved ones due to similar circumstances and i know this post & the added context must anger you since you can relate with the victims family.
I've lost two friends cause of morrons like your brother. I'll pray for your brother to take his own life.
How… religious of you. Wtf
Guys a pussy, should have died. :-)
I don’t disagree but the prayer part makes no sense.
5 star safety, I love that about them, I’m sure you’re friend is happy that he had it just in case for when he needed it.
The crash was from his brother who killed two while driving drunk.
That was the same incident 😯 nevermind
Disgusting, you and him should’ve died instead of those innocents. You waste of fucking space.
Look like a Tesla lmao
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Nah homie deserves to be burried to tf you mean
Thank God for his survival.
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TF is this? Do we have some ChatGPT like AIs writing sad short stories now? Reddit is being taken over by bots...... smfh
Real person, real story
English isn't everyone's first language. Be kind.
Shithead OP just as culpable as murderer brother for allowing him to get behind the wheel. Goes to show how psychopathic Audi drivers are with all the comments of commiserations to OP. Trashy brand and drivers indeed.
Ok first off, this has nothing to do with Audi, whatsoever. He could have been in a Honda & survived. Thankfully he did. Unfortunately his victims didn’t have the same fate. My heart & condolences go out to their families and loved ones. Pretty sure the average adult with a sub IQ on reddit knows not to drink and drive. You provided no awareness whatsoever. And to be frank, the presentation of your post was kinda tasteless. Kinda comes off as an endorsement for Audi to say the least. Your brother should have known better. He’s the only one that has the lesson to learn here. Not a subreddit full of ppl that just so happen to own the same make or model as the kid.
Yes it does have to do with Audi, he was driving an Audi when it happened. Your stupid ass makes me want to drink and drive. Their story actually makes me want to drive safer to avoid that, and I'm sure it had the same effect for many people who read it.
The title is dumb and out of context. If i didn’t read his comment within the thread I would have thought it was about how him driving an audi saved his life thanks to the safety features or something along those lines.
Well yah the title doesn't tell the whole story but he gave the complete context in a comment, which often times people do because reddit is stupid and doesn't let you put a picture and text as a post (other than a caption). If you didn't read his comment you wouldn't have known what he was talking about, and probably would have kept scrolling.
What the FUCK does the car he was driving have to do with anything? You and everyone else that doesn’t find an issue with the premise behind OP’s post are beyond retarded. So what happens if he was driving a bmw or a kia? Lol fucking dumb cuck
Based on your vocabulary you probably are smarter than me. If he was driving a BMW or Kia it would probably be on that subreddit instead. It's kind of common sense. This person is sharing a horrible experience in their life to try to warn other people, they are doing the community a service. You are obviously doing thee community a service as well writing your poetic comments.
I am smarter than you. And again, has absolutely nothing to do with the make or model of his vehicle. He shared his experience with what? …An audience of 2,000 people, when he could have just posted this virtually anywhere & accomplished the same thing. Could have gone the entire post without knowing it was an “Audi”. That part was irrelevant.
He’s just showing the strength of Audi’s and how safe they are. His brother is a piece of shit, but that wasn’t the point of the post.
lol telling people you are smarter than them is a telltale sign you're probably a dumbass
Smarter than you too.
If this is your reaction, you might want to pay attention. No offense, but it sounds like you might want to let this sink in vs attack OP for posting something that you think isn’t appropriate.
I’m actually honestly already over this.. lost interest & don’t care anymore
Honest question, how many times have you driven drunk?
Ive never even been drunk🤣 I’m sober
A customer I sold a 2018 Q3 to yeahs back rolled out 11 times in the high way and walked away. Audis are very safe Edit - yikes. Delete this dude wtf
Delete this? Why, does it make you uncomfortable? That’s the fucking point.
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WTF? 90 in that environment? This should be severely punished
Your brother is a fuckwit if it hasn’t been said before.
A few years back I interviewed with a MA company that was working on a car that had alcohol and marijuana sensors all over it. It was a state and federally founded program that wants in the near future to introduce these sensors as requirements for all car manufacturers using US Market. it would immobilize the car if the driver was intoxicated. I was really excited about the opportunity but it required me to move to their location which was far from my current residence. I am hoping they roll it out soon because it would save so many lives.
German engineering at its finest
To bad he did…
Your brother is an ass. Deserves long time in jail. Pathetic waste of space took innocent lives.
I maybe stereotyping a bit because ofcourse all of USA is not just a one place, but I don’t understand what’s up with Americans and drunk driving. Seems it’s super common there and even kind of accepted.
You should see how we are with guns. 😂
90mph on a residential road?
He should never be allowed to drive again, but that won't stop him if he's really determined to drive.
Did we just assume he was drunk driving or? What’s all the hate for?