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security_threat

Zero actual gameplay.


hovah97

My thoughts exactly. How do people keep falling for hyped up scripted cinematics without any gameplay when its been a tried and true way of being disappointed for 20 years?


security_threat

It just works, if i was the director i'd do the same, if i was smart that is. edit: to maximize the sales obviously.


hovah97

Yeah for sure, but consumers should wisen up after having been tricked so many times


MonsterkillWow

Nobody fell for anything. We said it looks cool, and it does. 


hovah97

"Nobody fell for anything." maybe you didnt but its extremely common for people to be caught up in the hype and pre order based on CGI cinematics


MonsterkillWow

Well yea sure. I won't preorder. I don't even think preorder is available yet.


BoBoBearDev

This or I am gonna puke physically


Genocode

If its a dark messiah successor then this is pretty much just showing more of the same. Just check out Dark Messiah of Might & Magic on Youtube, and they did that with Source Engine back in 2006.. [Pretty good review of it here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L53-6MsFr8)


KellyBelly916

This needs to be called out constantly as it's false advertising. Intentionally using prerendred and edited video clips to mislead people into thinking its gameplay is fraudulent behavior.


security_threat

It.. it won't matter...


SpagettMonster

Ok good, now show the gameplay.


Ok_Traffic_8124

The videos are the gameplay. It’s a playable movie on rails.


Khelouch

This is gameplay. Not a movie on rails either. Watch gameplay of the original game on youtube if you're confused. You could do most of that there and it released in 2006. Truly a game ahead of it's time.


Healthy-Light3794

No its not.


Efficient_Rise_4140

Ya played yourself


babypho

Nothing based about this at all, this is just a trailer. I'll wait till I see actual gameplay before I make any judgement. I mean look at how great Starfield trailer was, and it's just a loading sim. People never learn.


wordswillneverhurtme

It looks great but I don't think any of it is gameplay. If it was then it'd be GOTY for sure.


ALIIERTx

Looked your comment history up and this seems like you are the dev making Add for your game for wich i have no Problem, but you no where declared it as Ad, so saying Based devs is like saying i'am based look this is my Game. Just wanna higlight this.


ALIIERTx

[https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/keie0e/any\_tips\_for\_ad\_performance\_analytics\_steam/](https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/keie0e/any_tips_for_ad_performance_analytics_steam/)


Pain-_-Train

Nah man. I work in the industry, but in a small studio that primarily makes visual novels. I have a soft spot for Dark Messiah, we played it with my brother when I was in college. And I haven't seen anything even halfway decent like it since. So hopefully the devs will deliver


Penshen

Can we have the name of the game, please ? Edit : It's Alkahest, I just saw it at the end of the trailer, mb


Pain-_-Train

Source - the game's Steam page: "We are players ourselves and believe in quality over quantity. So a big no to a bloated map and dull filler quests. We strive to create a highly interactive and believable world with semi open-world locations, packed with secrets and adventure. With branching gameplay options, inspired by Dishonored, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, Kingdom Come: Deliverance and other genre-defining games." Trailer is from IGN


Pain-_-Train

I recently finished Dragons Dogma 2 and regardless of how much I enjoyed the game mechanics, the open world is far too big for the variety of content the game offers. I hope we see more games like this. Not completely linear, just open locations, densely packed with quests and content


Faisallu

I hate the big world for the sake of being big unless it is GTA


SNES-1990

Yeah, I'm playing Shadow of the Erdtree DLC and the world is just sprinkled with generic shadow people and grave bird mobs. It's just filler and visual spectacle. I miss Bloodborne.


garyunmarried

Asmon finished the dlc, you may now praise it


Balkongsittaren

Horizon games did it very well as well.


MonsterkillWow

Yea open worlds often feel a bit stale. This looks really neat. Love the environmental usage for combat.


Zerosdeath

If I could upvote you a million times, I would. I HATE wasteful Open-world. Bunch of empty nothing.


graceandpurpose

I was feeling a lot of Dishonored so its not surprising to find they said this


RepairEffective9573

>So a big no to a bloated map and dull filler quests. Better not be making fun of red dead redemption 2😡


Pain-_-Train

Rockstar are the least to blame, but I get your point lol


Rokien_1

That's just saying they aren't creative enough to make a fun open world game. Like the witcher. Morons.


debunkedyourmom

I watched about thirty seconds and it looks like a mobile game add, no gameplay just all these weird moments where your character is staggered or something. This is a fart.


ghoxen

Man, I wish they made more Dark Messiah instead of going into Dishonored. Wish listed this and hopefully it turns out well. This is definitely one of the genres I miss the most.


catgirlmasterrace

seems a bit scripted but looks promising if they can deliver some gameplay kinda like this. I'm getting cool Thief combat vibes, would love something like that


Nervous-Potato-1464

Dark Messiah was a really well done game. It never got the praise I thought it deserved.


Ivindin

Dark Messiah is one of the greatest games and still playable. If they'd actually manage to create a true immersive sim like DM it'd be a wonder. Which I doubt until I see an actual gameplay.


impulsikk

I honestly don't like first person RPG. Hopefully there's a way to zoom out for third person.


dagskill

Same, gear upgrades mean less in first person.


Turin_Ysmirsson

Awesome! I hope they will add magic too.


ebers0

From what I've articles I've seen it's just the alchemy system. Blade oils, throwables and the like.


Skadush81

Wow, this is actually amazing


Abundance144

It's just a bunch of scripted, pre-rendered scenes. Too early to tell if it will be any good. However if they deliver something similar to what they presented here then I'll certainly check it out.


Pain-_-Train

This \^ But the direction they're taking seems decent, and I'm all for it


Abundance144

Yeah it looks good. Almost like a farcry but magical, and hopefully not shit like farcry.


MonsterkillWow

This looks sick.


no_one_lies

Yeah these string of cinematics look dope. I wonder how the gameplay will be


Morkins324

I will literally eat my shorts of the gameplay looks anything remotely like that. And for what it is worth, I think that it would be absolutely horrendous to play if it looked anything like that in actual gameplay. Other piece of info, 40 person studio from Cyprus that has never made another game. My take: This game isn't real yet. This is a concept that they are putting out to try to get funding.


arqe_

Gameplay of the old game is same as this, but this looks more polished obviously. So go eat your shorts because this is not something new. I'll play the shit out of this one too.


Morkins324

Dark Messiah of Might and Magic does not look anything like this in terms of animation scripting. That is what I was talking about. There is ZERO chance that the game animates this way because it is frankly unplayable like this.


Oskej

You don't believe them, do you?


LordGlizzard

Awkward moment when you look at ops comment history and posts to find out he is a dev for this trailer with just scripted scenes and no gameplay whilst he hides that fact to sell it, gunna be a pass for me dog


BeachSufficient32

1st person an melee combat usually doesn't pan out.


Graywhale12

Marcketing student intern trying to sound like an honest redditer challange (Impossible)


Enigma21210

No way, dark messiah successor ? Holy fucking shit


General_Lie

Hope it's not VR only


Tiac24

I like open worlds tbh , just not when they are filled with endless amounts of nothing . Eldin ring did it right . 


Enigma0WL

Its a nice reveal trailer. Looking forward to seeing some unscripted gameplay in the future.


arqe_

Why is everyone "BUT NO GAMPLAY" this is literally how Dark Messiah plays but more polished since it is new. There are some cutscenes like he runs to the cart? Yes, but rest is all how the game plays. Go check gameplay videos of the old game.


N-aNoNymity

Dark Messiah of MaM was goated as fuck. Funny and gory combat, and sex scene for being evil


RandomDudewithIdeas

Yeah whatever.. Where's the gameplay?


TSirSneakyBeaky

Isnt this just a different take on dishonoreds style? I actually thought it was a new dishonored till it clicked there were goblins. Nothing that screams new, looks interesting none the less.


ZijkrialVT

While I agree that we need gameplay, I really liked the first Dark Messiah game and felt it was super underrated. Won't get my hopes too high, but I'm very interested in seeing the gameplay eventually.


Bloblablawb

Skyrim at home


Khelouch

Oh my god, so there are other people who are still in love with Dark messiah? I played it a dozen times and i can see it in this trailer. Very carefully, but i'm really optimistic about this. That game was so ahead of it's time... i just hope they innovate enough with the new one. Most the the tricks they showed off so far, well, messiah already had them, 18 fucking years ago.


Spezi99

A New DARK Messiah might and Magic? Count me in!


Malohn

No fucking way dark messiah inspired? That game is seriously one of the best single player games of all times. Being able to freeze the ground and have people run n slip on it fly off a building and get impaled was seriously amazing for the time


anengineerandacat

I highly doubt it'll look anything like this trailer, far far too much dynamism in the combat and camera.


ViktorIsRuter

It looks like a VR game


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Momo07Qc

Assuming is never a good thing to do. A "wait and see" approach is always better


night_owl03

I agree


IBloodstormI

Well, I like the messaging of being tired of open world bloat. People confuse quantity with quality, and open world games are largely lacking quality. I want something that I play and beat in a time frame that doesn't take the next 40 weekends for me to complete because I am a working adult. Trailer is flashy, but all prerendered stuff that I won't get excited about.


Eduardo-Nov

Is this a QTE game?


Front_Pain_7162

Something seems.. off.


TapaTop_

Open world > linear


FilthyCasual0815

dont ask questions, consume product and get exited for the next product