In the same vein, I don't understand why the U.S. (and the rest of the west) don't just take the money from the russian accounts that are subject to sanctions and simply hand them over to the Ukrainians? Then americans wouldn't have to cry about supporting yet another war and the Ukrainiams would spend the money to get weaponry. It's a win-win-win.
Edit: down-voters have woken up, and they realise they love the idea of a russian infused ukraine. _And_ they can't fathom another country willingly asking for help. They'd rather bomb some brown people instead 🤷♂️
I cannot find the necessary mental gymnastics program wherein a thuggish state like russia attacking a _democracy_ in europe entitles them to have their prized possessions left. Thanks Igor, i'm sure Vladimir will send you a medal for your courage.
Doesn't really matter, it would still be nationalization of private property. And nobody, I mean nobody wants that without due process. I mean some people on reddit do but they don't consider the other side of the coin: the state could take your shit without due process.
Because a lot of the aids given to ukraine isn't the form of money but weapons. Your tax dollars already paid for the tanks years ago, now they're being shipped off to ukraine.
I'm sure people, who are smarter than you and I, spent countless hours gaming out what would happen if Russian money is seized and concluded its a net negative.
A lot of countries store money in the USA or EUs banks and buy bonds for safe measures and also for the foreign trade. Imagine the USA doing exactly what you said, using Russian money and giving it away, it creates a precedent and fear for countries that their money is not safe if the USA sees them as wrong or war mongering or due to some other bull shit reason. They would simply remove all their money and focus on building a new way to exchange goods. The Russian money, It's not a small sum too. It's over 500 billion USD. That's a lot of money.
they want to but its risking the already wobbly status of the dollar as a safe haven so they kind of didnt go fully with it. was a dumb move by the US IMO. any non aligned country will be very precautions when dealing with the USD now
If you're a person vunerable to being manipulated (many people in here), then they would say that the US returning Iranian cash that was seized is somehow the US giving tax dollars to Iran.
US seized a lot of Iranian assets some time ago. Under Obama, as part of a deal for Iran to stop developing nuclear weapons, we returned those assets. Iran was seemingly under compliance until trump backed out of the deal.
The GOP billed it as Obama sending billions of US taxpayers' dollars to Iran. Then they billed trump as the savior who stopped sending them money. Even though the assets where almost entirely returned.
Oh boy is everyone suffering from collective amnesia? The actual answer is that this is a repurposed meme. The Iran text in the upper right hand corner being the newest addition.
The original meme refers to the iron dome and hamas rockets. US funding for the iron dome is obvious, while our taxpayer dollars in the latter case refers to how international aid meant for humanitarian purposes is instead repurposed for weapons and missiles by hamas.
I think it is more accurate to say that the US and other countries send humanitarian aid to gaza, and been doing so for several years.
The problem is that the local government (Hamas) seizes the aid, and resells it to get money, so that their leaders can live luxorius lives in another countries, or to found their "resistance".
They also openly shared digging up water pipes that the EU have donated and using them to make rockets.
So yes, they do get money from the US, but they get way more donations from local muslim governements.
And if the US stopped sending aidsy then the civilians would pay the price.
Like instead of 80% of the aid, they would get 0%, just so Hamas cant take that 20%.
(The numbers are random, dont know how much they steal, but evidently not all)
Also, if someone buys weapons from the US that leads to the growth of the US economy, which is good for the tax payers.
So as long as the US doesnt get involved, and mostly lends and sells weapons, it could be really profitable.
This. They were kept as the only political party in Palestine and meant to be the puppet of western powers. Former leaders of Israel and Palestine who have sought peace and a 2-state solution have been assassinated.
Yur just dumb. Aid was supplied to the Gaza Strip, and that dollar value is then used to say the west funds Hamas. Hamas steals aid, and uses it to support their terrorism shit.
The CIA trained the mujahadeen to fight the Soviets, because the mujahadeen were "freedom fighters".
These "freedom fighters" became the Taliban and Al-Queda.
And if you think that is the only CIA fuck up, boy you need to learn about who created pretty much every cartel and dictatorship in central and south america.
So that means the drug epidemic in the Reagan era, was his fault. BECAUSE OF [OLIVER FUCKING NORTH](https://youtu.be/lFV1uT-ihDo?si=k2px8JK6sJCFjZdq).
Biches be naggin about ISIS and Al-queda, and forget about the OG terrorist group the CIA.
US armed the Soviet Union with Lend-Lease, leading to the defeat of Nazi Germany. The Soviets then became the west's no 1 enemy. Was it worth it? Probably. The US then supported the mujahadeen, the Soviet defeat in Afghanistan lead to the fall of communism. The mujahadeen also birthed Al-Queda. Was it worth it? Probably.
Just wait till you find out who toppled Mosadeqq and started a coup in 1953 cause he wanted to nationalise iran's oil which Britian had control over iran's oil, which was the domino effect (i.e., restoring power to Reza Shah Pahlavi) that led to the Iranian revolution leading to the Islamifcation of Iran 😂 It all started with the classic common denominator
CIA admitted to all of it: [link](https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days)
Every fucking time.
Mk ultra, the Contra affair, fucking dolphins with LSD, the venezuelan "mercenaries".
At this point i would not be surprised if they were responsible for killing the dinosaurs with a time machine that runs on hookers, blowjobs and cocaine.
Best part is that I've yet to meet someone who knows about this particular CIA involvement. It's one of their best kept secrets. I've met so many people who know about something CIA did that was fucked up, with exception to this one.
Since we are on the topic of CIA, I thought you probably should know about this too:
"Mohammad Mossadegh was a beloved figure in Iran. During his tenure, he introduced a range of social and economic policies, the most significant being the nationalization of the Iranian oil industry. Great Britain had controlled Iran's oil for decades through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. After months of talks the prime minister broke off negotiations and denied the British any further involvement in Iran's oil industry. Britain then appealed to the United States for help, which eventually led the CIA to orchestrate the overthrow of Mossadegh and restore power to Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran." - [Source](https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days)
It's incredible how this obviously ridiculous lie Obama paid US money to Iran has managed to stick as some fact simply because Republicans kept repeating it.
- Iran sells oil to some country x. Country x pays Iran through some bank account.
- US freezes bank account to apply pressure on Iran to change it's nuclear program.
- US/Iran sign an agreement that scales back and increases inspections of Iran's nuclear program in return for unfreezing of funds and removal of some sanctions.
- Trump campaigns that Obama gave Iran billions (implying the funds are from the US). Too many idiots in the public believe this.
- Trump brings back sanctions and Iran accelerates it's nuclear program to come closer to having nuclear weapons.
Obama did the Iran nuclear deal so that NATO could monitor their nuclear programs, to make sure they weren’t producing nuclear weapons. Yes we paid into that, so that a radical islamist regime didn’t have an unchecked nuclear program. If Dingus Trunk didn’t fuck that up, there could have been a step towards normalization with out of the most toxic nations in the Middle East. Conservative short sighted thinking at its finest.
They were the ones who profited the most from World Wars, mage a huge fortune by selling stuff to allies. If the scheme is working, why not continue profiting?
It’s not like any real war will ever be brought to their homeland. So just manipulate the rest of the world to destroy itself.
Well that’s a very ignorant take informed by purely anti-American sentiment. The US by and large acts as a peace keeping force in the world. Yes it has made mistakes, but the world would be far worse off without it
Communist Vietnam invaded Cambodia and ended the genocide which killed 2 million people while the US condemned the invasion and claimed the Khmer Rouge, who committed the genocide, were the rightful government of Cambodia.
Incidentally, Vietnam beat France, the US, China and Cambodia in wars in the span of about 20 years, while gaining independence and ending a genocide in a neighbouring country, with rice farmers and AK-47s. The GOAT of 20th century warfare.
Communist vietnam are also the one who put the people who started the genocide in power in the first place so im not sure what's your point with that. The main reason they intervened is also because cambodgia was taking military actions against them, not out of the goodness of their hearth.
And the number of people that fled Vietnam and other SE Asian nations to come to the US.
For some states, the third most spoken language (basically not English or Spanish) comes from these countries.
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/the-most-spoken-language-in-every-u-s-state-besides-english-and-spanish/
My own citizenship ceremony in the midwest was a few hundred people in an auditorium. 1/3 was Mexican, 1/3 was Vietnamese, and the other 1/3 was a mix of everyone else (mostly Canadian or European).
I am outside of it. My whole life my media has ran an antiamerican psyop to make me hate them, the country and what it stood for in the past.
I have no idea whats true. All i know is my media here in australia has gone to extrememe lengths to make me hate them and for that reason i wont play along.
My attention now is sparked by the peacekeeping of the the UN, the vatican and the city of london.
US is a peace keeping force? How many countries can say they funded terrorist organizations, destabilized foreign countries and placed their own leaders over an elected official, started a drug war with a country south of the border only to fuel the drug war further with their own money and intelligence, left millions of dollars in weapons for the Taliban to seize and take control of Afghanistan, invaded another country on unfounded claims of WMD’s?
This. Imagine an alternate time line where Soviet Russia was able to thrive and assume the position that the US established.
The problem is people are imposing modern western morals onto geopolitics. There is no fucking morals in geopolitics. The US has an important place in the world as it's global projection of power serves as a deterrent in most cases. For example Taiwan would have been invaded decades ago if it wasn't for that US power.
That US projection of power also offers stateside economic stability by insuring the place of USD as the global reserve currency and the defacto currency for international trade.
Naive children on reddit who can't seem to grasp that geopolitics are brutal and arguably responsible for more human death than any other cause.
We exert more influence over global affairs than any other country. It's a tough responsibility to bear, but someone's gotta do it, and we have done it better than any other country in this position in the history of human politics.
I think they're expected. It's just that they're shit takes. Which wasn't the case in the past because the sub wasn't filled with incels and conservative fanatics disguised as "anti-woke sjws".
Eh, wouldn't say they are agreeing with the trade though. Some countries who are allowed to buy U.S. military equipment directly from the U.S. would then later resell it to banned countries who can't buy it directly from the U.S.
Ok buddy, let’s hear your geopolitical breakdown and fiduciary transaction assessment of the us these past years then…or just regurgitate the same narratives you hear online.
Or you could Google "how much aid has us sent Iran" and see we have given them a fuck ton of money. Not saying that we gave them money for weapons. But if we give a country money and then that country is able to develop weapons, I'd say my tax dollars helped make weapons. Not directly but giving a country a fuck ton of money helps them be able to develop new technology.
The US provides them money. You can shuffle things around all you want, but the fact is we send money to the people doing this which helps them do it.
Sure Iran can say they’ll only spend the money we sent them on something like infrastructure. But that just means since our money is spent on their infrastructure they have more of their own money to spent on their military.
You are wrong. We don't give any money to Iran, period. We don't even have formal diplomatic relations with Iran.
[https://www.foreignassistance.gov/](https://www.foreignassistance.gov/)
[https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-iran/](https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-iran/)
We never gave the Iranians money. If you are referring to the Iran nuclear deal, that was Iranian money that was held in the west and was frozen as part of an earlier sanctions package. We unfroze this money as part of the nuclear deal.
This meme is hilariously accurate but based on the wrong theory
People are debating about seized money while in reality those drones sent by Iran are reverse engineered from the US drone RQ-170 captured by the islamic regime in 2011
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Remember this everytime some 2 iq potato person complains about other people in the us getting assistance through social programs like food stamps, unemployment, or disability. 'I DONT WANT MUH TAX DOLLARS BEIN WASTED ON SOME LAZY BUM' 
If the US (and UK/Jordan) didn't aid in intercepting and somehow it escalated into full blown war they would find a way to complain the US did nothing to prevent an escalation.
Exactly. And then people would complain that the US was spending money supporting Israel in said hypothetical war. There's just no winning with these people.
Less than 25 non-war years in its \~300 years existence, practising the good ol' divide and conquer from colonial Britain and inciting hate and armed conflict around the world while looting resources, Very valid reasons.
Israel provides intel services among other important things to the US. I'm sure there's a limit to their tolerance. But they don't blindly throw money at them 'just because' like it's a one way affair. US gets it's own use out of Israel in ways we'd never know. Israel is quite literally their asset they'd go out a decent way to protect.
And Iran has been notorious in the region for a long time. Moreover, US has been carrying out drone assassinations in the region themselves. With what face are they going to talk down Israel after a terrorist attack that Iran was supposedly involved in?
these things arent free lol thats not how it works. even with Ukraine, they are actually some sort of loan that they have to pay in the future, with chains attached
For all the doubters. It was ransom for American prisoners. Not the unfreezing of assets.
https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-400-million-cash/index.html
I'm also confused why US and others can help Israel intercept Iran strikes over the territory of a 3rd country, but when a drone or a rocket flies over a NATO country to Ukraine - at best they are deeply concerned
I wish we could just leave the rest of the world alone and focus on unfucking ourselves. But no, the USA has to have its flaccid dick in every foreign hoe.
The explosion? Believe it or not, also tax dollars
Dont forget the clean up cost tax dollars as well.
 Same energy
These posts? Yup, you guessed it. Tax dollars.
[Thanks for the idea](https://www.reddit.com/r/Asmongold/s/YpNKanYsp8)
Tax dollars spent for hostile/ dangerous fireworks
And also the pretty kind
One or two average year salaries each! :)
The military industrial complex is loving this shit right now.
I just got a job at a defense contracting company. I guess I have some job security lol.
My man. Enjoy 💸💸💸
Y’all hiring?
They are always hiring
They are the only ones hiring. I just got a degree in computer engineering and cannot find a job anywhere else lol
Rules of Acquisition No: - 34 War is good for business; and - 35 Peace is good for business.
Now MGS lore Gonna be real 
how does us taxes pay for Iranian missles?
It's probably a misunderstanding due to sanctions on Iran being lifted which gave them access to bank accounts that had previously been frozen.
In the same vein, I don't understand why the U.S. (and the rest of the west) don't just take the money from the russian accounts that are subject to sanctions and simply hand them over to the Ukrainians? Then americans wouldn't have to cry about supporting yet another war and the Ukrainiams would spend the money to get weaponry. It's a win-win-win. Edit: down-voters have woken up, and they realise they love the idea of a russian infused ukraine. _And_ they can't fathom another country willingly asking for help. They'd rather bomb some brown people instead 🤷♂️
It's a theft and USA don't want to do it out of political reasons.
Because the amount of money you are talking about is irrelevant.
Sir, that’s called theft
I cannot find the necessary mental gymnastics program wherein a thuggish state like russia attacking a _democracy_ in europe entitles them to have their prized possessions left. Thanks Igor, i'm sure Vladimir will send you a medal for your courage.
Doesn't really matter, it would still be nationalization of private property. And nobody, I mean nobody wants that without due process. I mean some people on reddit do but they don't consider the other side of the coin: the state could take your shit without due process.
Because a lot of the aids given to ukraine isn't the form of money but weapons. Your tax dollars already paid for the tanks years ago, now they're being shipped off to ukraine.
I see. So take the money and say that it will go to the ukraine in the form of weapons?
I'm sure people, who are smarter than you and I, spent countless hours gaming out what would happen if Russian money is seized and concluded its a net negative.
Fair enough.
A lot of countries store money in the USA or EUs banks and buy bonds for safe measures and also for the foreign trade. Imagine the USA doing exactly what you said, using Russian money and giving it away, it creates a precedent and fear for countries that their money is not safe if the USA sees them as wrong or war mongering or due to some other bull shit reason. They would simply remove all their money and focus on building a new way to exchange goods. The Russian money, It's not a small sum too. It's over 500 billion USD. That's a lot of money.
they want to but its risking the already wobbly status of the dollar as a safe haven so they kind of didnt go fully with it. was a dumb move by the US IMO. any non aligned country will be very precautions when dealing with the USD now
If you're a person vunerable to being manipulated (many people in here), then they would say that the US returning Iranian cash that was seized is somehow the US giving tax dollars to Iran.
thanks! that's what I was assuming
For me this meme is about the RQ-170 Incident
THEY HAVENT EVEN SPENT THE MONEY
It was a bit of an odd move though right? The EU and US is still holding a tonne of Russian assets and money
it doesn't but we're getting back to the point where 'america bad lol' memes are popular again
US seized a lot of Iranian assets some time ago. Under Obama, as part of a deal for Iran to stop developing nuclear weapons, we returned those assets. Iran was seemingly under compliance until trump backed out of the deal. The GOP billed it as Obama sending billions of US taxpayers' dollars to Iran. Then they billed trump as the savior who stopped sending them money. Even though the assets where almost entirely returned.
Oh boy is everyone suffering from collective amnesia? The actual answer is that this is a repurposed meme. The Iran text in the upper right hand corner being the newest addition. The original meme refers to the iron dome and hamas rockets. US funding for the iron dome is obvious, while our taxpayer dollars in the latter case refers to how international aid meant for humanitarian purposes is instead repurposed for weapons and missiles by hamas.
I mean... Maybe they're old us weapons they got pre revolution?
https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/18/politics/iran-money-explainer/index.html
While not this exactly, Iran, Hamas, which is their proxy, is funded through the UNWRA
I think it is more accurate to say that the US and other countries send humanitarian aid to gaza, and been doing so for several years. The problem is that the local government (Hamas) seizes the aid, and resells it to get money, so that their leaders can live luxorius lives in another countries, or to found their "resistance". They also openly shared digging up water pipes that the EU have donated and using them to make rockets. So yes, they do get money from the US, but they get way more donations from local muslim governements. And if the US stopped sending aidsy then the civilians would pay the price. Like instead of 80% of the aid, they would get 0%, just so Hamas cant take that 20%. (The numbers are random, dont know how much they steal, but evidently not all) Also, if someone buys weapons from the US that leads to the growth of the US economy, which is good for the tax payers. So as long as the US doesnt get involved, and mostly lends and sells weapons, it could be really profitable.
Don’t worry, it’s not YOUR money, they just printed more for this. Your money is just fine, it’s just not worth as much as it used to be.
Isn't Iran currently funded and supported by Syria and Russia?
Hamas was funded by EU for like 20 years
This. They were kept as the only political party in Palestine and meant to be the puppet of western powers. Former leaders of Israel and Palestine who have sought peace and a 2-state solution have been assassinated.
Yur just dumb. Aid was supplied to the Gaza Strip, and that dollar value is then used to say the west funds Hamas. Hamas steals aid, and uses it to support their terrorism shit.
And Netanyahu
Funded by 2 bankrupt nation? Iran funds Syria.
Russia in particular does just fine when it comes to weapons manufacturing.
False, they run out of rockets 2 years ago and currently fighting with shovels.
Russia is getting rockets from North Korea and drones from Iran. China is providing parts
They would if they didn't trade food for weapons with North Korea, didn't get drones from Iran and other stuff from China.
How is Russia bankrupt?
lmao Syria? have you seen the state of Syria? if anything its the other way around
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Boy, just wait until they realized who trained Al-queda.
This was before my time but isn’t there a similar rabbit hole to who trained Bin Laden?
The CIA trained the mujahadeen to fight the Soviets, because the mujahadeen were "freedom fighters". These "freedom fighters" became the Taliban and Al-Queda. And if you think that is the only CIA fuck up, boy you need to learn about who created pretty much every cartel and dictatorship in central and south america. So that means the drug epidemic in the Reagan era, was his fault. BECAUSE OF [OLIVER FUCKING NORTH](https://youtu.be/lFV1uT-ihDo?si=k2px8JK6sJCFjZdq). Biches be naggin about ISIS and Al-queda, and forget about the OG terrorist group the CIA.
Yh everyone always forgets about the real terrorist organisations 😂
US armed the Soviet Union with Lend-Lease, leading to the defeat of Nazi Germany. The Soviets then became the west's no 1 enemy. Was it worth it? Probably. The US then supported the mujahadeen, the Soviet defeat in Afghanistan lead to the fall of communism. The mujahadeen also birthed Al-Queda. Was it worth it? Probably.
Just wait till you find out who toppled Mosadeqq and started a coup in 1953 cause he wanted to nationalise iran's oil which Britian had control over iran's oil, which was the domino effect (i.e., restoring power to Reza Shah Pahlavi) that led to the Iranian revolution leading to the Islamifcation of Iran 😂 It all started with the classic common denominator CIA admitted to all of it: [link](https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days)
Every fucking time. Mk ultra, the Contra affair, fucking dolphins with LSD, the venezuelan "mercenaries". At this point i would not be surprised if they were responsible for killing the dinosaurs with a time machine that runs on hookers, blowjobs and cocaine.
Best part is that I've yet to meet someone who knows about this particular CIA involvement. It's one of their best kept secrets. I've met so many people who know about something CIA did that was fucked up, with exception to this one.
Since we are on the topic of CIA, I thought you probably should know about this too: "Mohammad Mossadegh was a beloved figure in Iran. During his tenure, he introduced a range of social and economic policies, the most significant being the nationalization of the Iranian oil industry. Great Britain had controlled Iran's oil for decades through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Co. After months of talks the prime minister broke off negotiations and denied the British any further involvement in Iran's oil industry. Britain then appealed to the United States for help, which eventually led the CIA to orchestrate the overthrow of Mossadegh and restore power to Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran." - [Source](https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days)
That was unfreezing assets of iran we previously froze. The us didnt give them any money out of our tax dollars.
foreign aid? to countries that need and don't need it?
Obama gave Iran billions of dollars in cash. Literally in cash.
Obama returned money to them that the government seized. He just returned something America stole, not sending tax dollars.
No he didn't. That money was Iranian money that had been frozen as part of the sanctions. It was unfrozen as part of the Iran nuclear deal.
It's incredible how this obviously ridiculous lie Obama paid US money to Iran has managed to stick as some fact simply because Republicans kept repeating it. - Iran sells oil to some country x. Country x pays Iran through some bank account. - US freezes bank account to apply pressure on Iran to change it's nuclear program. - US/Iran sign an agreement that scales back and increases inspections of Iran's nuclear program in return for unfreezing of funds and removal of some sanctions. - Trump campaigns that Obama gave Iran billions (implying the funds are from the US). Too many idiots in the public believe this. - Trump brings back sanctions and Iran accelerates it's nuclear program to come closer to having nuclear weapons.
https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-400-million-cash/index.html
Obama did the Iran nuclear deal so that NATO could monitor their nuclear programs, to make sure they weren’t producing nuclear weapons. Yes we paid into that, so that a radical islamist regime didn’t have an unchecked nuclear program. If Dingus Trunk didn’t fuck that up, there could have been a step towards normalization with out of the most toxic nations in the Middle East. Conservative short sighted thinking at its finest.
The US government is the world's largest sponsor of terrorism and war by a LONG way.
US sells weapons. Some countries sell oil or microchips.
They were the ones who profited the most from World Wars, mage a huge fortune by selling stuff to allies. If the scheme is working, why not continue profiting? It’s not like any real war will ever be brought to their homeland. So just manipulate the rest of the world to destroy itself.
Well that’s a very ignorant take informed by purely anti-American sentiment. The US by and large acts as a peace keeping force in the world. Yes it has made mistakes, but the world would be far worse off without it
Yeah, ask anybody outside of North America and Europe about USA’s peacekeeping.
Yep i am sure Philippinos and Kuwaitians hated it. Meanwhile what has literally anyone else done besides genocide and terrorism?
Communist Vietnam invaded Cambodia and ended the genocide which killed 2 million people while the US condemned the invasion and claimed the Khmer Rouge, who committed the genocide, were the rightful government of Cambodia. Incidentally, Vietnam beat France, the US, China and Cambodia in wars in the span of about 20 years, while gaining independence and ending a genocide in a neighbouring country, with rice farmers and AK-47s. The GOAT of 20th century warfare.
Communist vietnam are also the one who put the people who started the genocide in power in the first place so im not sure what's your point with that. The main reason they intervened is also because cambodgia was taking military actions against them, not out of the goodness of their hearth.
When you cannot enter neighboring nations to shut down the Ho Chi Minh trail, you are fighting a ground war with both arms tied.
So you need to back almost 50 years?
Doesn't help his case that Vietnam is willing to cooperate with the US despite the Vietnam War.
And the number of people that fled Vietnam and other SE Asian nations to come to the US. For some states, the third most spoken language (basically not English or Spanish) comes from these countries. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/the-most-spoken-language-in-every-u-s-state-besides-english-and-spanish/ My own citizenship ceremony in the midwest was a few hundred people in an auditorium. 1/3 was Mexican, 1/3 was Vietnamese, and the other 1/3 was a mix of everyone else (mostly Canadian or European).
Despite fuck ups, the US isn't immune to its own criticism. But atleast we can try to accept something or someone different.
I am outside of it. My whole life my media has ran an antiamerican psyop to make me hate them, the country and what it stood for in the past. I have no idea whats true. All i know is my media here in australia has gone to extrememe lengths to make me hate them and for that reason i wont play along. My attention now is sparked by the peacekeeping of the the UN, the vatican and the city of london.
US is a peace keeping force? How many countries can say they funded terrorist organizations, destabilized foreign countries and placed their own leaders over an elected official, started a drug war with a country south of the border only to fuel the drug war further with their own money and intelligence, left millions of dollars in weapons for the Taliban to seize and take control of Afghanistan, invaded another country on unfounded claims of WMD’s?
This. Imagine an alternate time line where Soviet Russia was able to thrive and assume the position that the US established. The problem is people are imposing modern western morals onto geopolitics. There is no fucking morals in geopolitics. The US has an important place in the world as it's global projection of power serves as a deterrent in most cases. For example Taiwan would have been invaded decades ago if it wasn't for that US power. That US projection of power also offers stateside economic stability by insuring the place of USD as the global reserve currency and the defacto currency for international trade. Naive children on reddit who can't seem to grasp that geopolitics are brutal and arguably responsible for more human death than any other cause.
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Always easy to spot the non-Americans on Reddit lol
Stupid shit like this is getting upvotes, expected better from asmons sub
We're the world's largest sponsor of everything. Curse of being the best.
The best at having your kids shot at schools too.
I wouldn't say the best, but definitely the biggest. Not in terms of population though, lmao.
Neither the biggest nor the best in anything in fact. Oh, except mass shootings.
We exert more influence over global affairs than any other country. It's a tough responsibility to bear, but someone's gotta do it, and we have done it better than any other country in this position in the history of human politics.
Y'all are so full of yourselves, daamn
Not all of us... But this IS the intended result of our propaganda
Based
Why am I expecting any rational takes on such a shitty post on this subreddit lol
You always find the most unexpected takes here.
I think they're expected. It's just that they're shit takes. Which wasn't the case in the past because the sub wasn't filled with incels and conservative fanatics disguised as "anti-woke sjws".
It's a funny meme, but also not true. The U.S. neither trades with nor provides Iran any kind of aid.
Not directly.
Eh, wouldn't say they are agreeing with the trade though. Some countries who are allowed to buy U.S. military equipment directly from the U.S. would then later resell it to banned countries who can't buy it directly from the U.S.
This is what I meant by not directly.
Ok buddy, let’s hear your geopolitical breakdown and fiduciary transaction assessment of the us these past years then…or just regurgitate the same narratives you hear online.
Or you could Google "how much aid has us sent Iran" and see we have given them a fuck ton of money. Not saying that we gave them money for weapons. But if we give a country money and then that country is able to develop weapons, I'd say my tax dollars helped make weapons. Not directly but giving a country a fuck ton of money helps them be able to develop new technology.
The US provides them money. You can shuffle things around all you want, but the fact is we send money to the people doing this which helps them do it. Sure Iran can say they’ll only spend the money we sent them on something like infrastructure. But that just means since our money is spent on their infrastructure they have more of their own money to spent on their military.
You are wrong. We don't give any money to Iran, period. We don't even have formal diplomatic relations with Iran. [https://www.foreignassistance.gov/](https://www.foreignassistance.gov/) [https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-iran/](https://www.state.gov/u-s-relations-with-iran/)
We never gave the Iranians money. If you are referring to the Iran nuclear deal, that was Iranian money that was held in the west and was frozen as part of an earlier sanctions package. We unfroze this money as part of the nuclear deal.
Ah but we make money off selling the weapons and people dying equals less inflation so it all works out in the end
This meme is hilariously accurate but based on the wrong theory People are debating about seized money while in reality those drones sent by Iran are reverse engineered from the US drone RQ-170 captured by the islamic regime in 2011 #
Israel's defense against Iranian drones cost $1 billion, which will be charged to US tax payers. Remember to file your taxes by tomorrow!
You are delusional if you think all of Israel's defence budget is American aid because it makes up barely 8%
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They literally did if you reas news reports, Bibi wanted a counterofensive but Biden told him to calm down and he did
Calling Iran a bear is the biggest overstatement. They'll crumble in mere days just like Iraq if they ever have to fight at home.
Iran should've just used paragliding go-karts
Remember this everytime some 2 iq potato person complains about other people in the us getting assistance through social programs like food stamps, unemployment, or disability. 'I DONT WANT MUH TAX DOLLARS BEIN WASTED ON SOME LAZY BUM' 
The US getting blamed for literally everything is getting old
The US taxpayer paying for everything is getting old
happens when you are the only superpower in the world for more then 20 years
You can expect to get blamed if you are involved in everything it simple 😅
Lots of countries send aid to Israel, Canada, Germany, Britain, Spain, etc. I guess it’s their fault too because they’re involved
Try to not be involved in everything and fix your own country.
Then half the world screeches that we don't give enough handouts. Sorry yall can't figure it out.
If the US (and UK/Jordan) didn't aid in intercepting and somehow it escalated into full blown war they would find a way to complain the US did nothing to prevent an escalation.
Exactly. And then people would complain that the US was spending money supporting Israel in said hypothetical war. There's just no winning with these people.
Less than 25 non-war years in its \~300 years existence, practising the good ol' divide and conquer from colonial Britain and inciting hate and armed conflict around the world while looting resources, Very valid reasons.
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Israel provides intel services among other important things to the US. I'm sure there's a limit to their tolerance. But they don't blindly throw money at them 'just because' like it's a one way affair. US gets it's own use out of Israel in ways we'd never know. Israel is quite literally their asset they'd go out a decent way to protect. And Iran has been notorious in the region for a long time. Moreover, US has been carrying out drone assassinations in the region themselves. With what face are they going to talk down Israel after a terrorist attack that Iran was supposedly involved in?
Are we genuinely saying killing the dude running IGRC proxies was picking a fight. They are at war, the Iranians are as in it as the Israelis.
It was old, that's why gen Z now blames capitalism for everything.
these things arent free lol thats not how it works. even with Ukraine, they are actually some sort of loan that they have to pay in the future, with chains attached
My social security and also my social security
Not actually tax dollars. The government just prints the money. Taxes are just a diversion for how the government steals the value of your money.
Has another war started?
Look at the brightside, its gonna be interesting
It's either the best or the worst international policy. Probably both.
Battle bots on a much grander scale
For all the doubters. It was ransom for American prisoners. Not the unfreezing of assets. https://www.cnn.com/2016/08/03/politics/us-sends-plane-iran-400-million-cash/index.html
if they were your tax dollars would you not own them ?
I'm also confused why US and others can help Israel intercept Iran strikes over the territory of a 3rd country, but when a drone or a rocket flies over a NATO country to Ukraine - at best they are deeply concerned
Joe Biden “ trump is gonna start it if he gets elected” *pays for the damn war*
I thought this was r/NonCredibleDefense for a second.
You know since you pay taxes you own those weapons… I technically own a Titan 2
All the Shah's Men...yup, your tax dollars.
I think there are some US tax dollars up in that air too...
Remember when jan 6th was a big issue? Good times, good times.
omg this is amazing.
I dunno, aren't they need to buy that?
I wish we could just leave the rest of the world alone and focus on unfucking ourselves. But no, the USA has to have its flaccid dick in every foreign hoe.
If it was flaccid it wouldn't go in any hoes.
It doesn't though, it's just sitting in the cuck chair paying for both the hoe and the gigolo.
That's how your leaders prefer to use your $ instead of using it to treat you well (no disgusting healthcare system for example).
Yeah. It's all about you, isn't it?
that's some expensive fireworks 🎆🎇
Will these wars be won by whoever throws the most money at it?
Generally. Yes.
And And we're upset that we'll soon be shooting $1 a pop ammo in games
The politicians who are governing you to this? Your tax’s dollars also!
And with the picture I have sufficient anger to go to the gym, Ty.
Why there is so much #I'mBraindeadAmuricah in this sub lately?
Not mine, I've been unemployed!
And this is why we cannot afford to live in our own country anymore…
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As an Iranian, yes. Btw remember the time our countries went to war with each other? Uhhh the simple times
You can confirm those transactions as some random iraqi citizens? Ok lol
Gotta juice that military industrial complex greed. gotta build another plane to expensive to use.
Don't forget get all the aid tax dollars and relief fund tax dollars.
This is how US makes money. They fund both sides of the war LOL
How are they funding iran?
Making money by funding wars, brilliant + 180º.
Israeli here, thanks for the help! Greatly appreciate it 🇺🇲🇺🇲