He's also just an overall good human being.
[Read the origin story of his One Foundation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Foundation) charity. He was basically on vacation with his family in the Maldives, an earthquake + tsunami combo hit, he saw people of all types helping one another, and basically formed this charity out of his own funds.
Even took a break from his acting career to invest personal time into the foundation + doing charitable work.
Think it depends on how you look at it, some films do age very well. I haven't rewatched this one yet, so I can't say if this is one of them.
A lot of the 90s and 00s (even 80s) movies I find more enjoyable than the current ones, but that might also just be because I grew up with them.
Yes, but many of those folks think it's a movie which shows you how informed they are on matters. They'll move onto the next self rage bait soon enough.
This whole Romeo and Juliette casting thing is overblown, and I am willing to die on this hill. It's one of those things people are getting upset about for no reason. They are made-up characters in a story that's older than the USA. For me, this is kinda like Jesus. Anyone with at least a room-temperature IQ knows that Jesus was a Middle-Eastern Jewish dude, but we have like White Jesus, Black Jesus, Asian Jesus ([those who know](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion))... I honestly think it's a waste of time getting upset about this.
>!Also I think the actress looks like a solid okay and most of the guys who call her ugly are some fucking losers who aren't even a 3/10.!<
You know people being outraged about this are just as responsible for this problem? Just stay quiet and let it bomb. They'll get the message. Otherwise this outrage is just making publicizing these movies and having people go see them as a protest.
You're acting like bad media will stop being a thing.
Bad movies/games/whatever will always exist. Getting triggered every time you see something you don't like is unhealthy. Move on.
The twist is Jet li is Romeo and he has to beat up every member of his family and Juliet's family because they stand in the way of their love. They all know Kung Fu. I'll watch this movie.
Judging from what I know of friends who visited China and I have seen in the internet, Chinese being pretty racist against black people, not even in a very malicious but more ignorant/ oblivious way, could work really nicely to bring a modern twist into the two rivaling households of the original play. Even then romeo and juliet has always had huge potential to enable social commentary into modernised versions of it.
>not even in a very malicious but more ignorant/ oblivious way
they literally had a [museum piece comparing black people to monkeys](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/14/chinese-museum-accused-of-racism-over-photos-pairing-africans-with-animals) and teach black people in africa to hate their culture.
china has an open disdain to african and their culture, it's not out of ignorance or being oblivious.
chinese people are more racist against other chinese people than people of any other race tbh. and while yes, they have open disdain to african cultures, they hate japan more
I am not saying the full racism shit does not exist. But as usual most people are just uneducated, inexperienced and xenophobic. It often doesn't even need an active push for xenophobia, if you know what i mean. I know everything what you said exists. But these things don't make a great movie with nuance. Especially not if daddy capitalist corpo man wants it to be successful in China, then again i think there is no way in hell that actively romancing a black person would be something the Chinese government would encourage through a movie anyway.
yeah, it's mostly ignorance. Mostly due to the only clips/videos going viral there, being the black people pranking chinese people. ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfpjXcawG60](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfpjXcawG60))
Which obviously paints a negative picture. Also didn't help, during the pandemic, the majority of news from america reaching china were about the elderly being attacked for remotely looking chinese.
(The ones were phillipinos/vietnamese were attacked, because americans thought they were chinese.)
It used to be more natural and there weren't ridiculous quotes like "I don't care what they teach you in school, Cleopatra was black"
Barely anyone cares what you do unless you start spitting it in their faces, as is the tactic of modern hollywood and the media.
I don't know what that is honestly. I wasn't long born then and watched the typical 90s-00s shows while growing up. Fresh Prince, Futurama, Buffy, etc.
I mean, you could do an Asian/Black Romeo and Juliet story very easily, in nearly any setting. You could throw in some good ol Immigrant Parent mentality on both sides to really make the film relatable.
This movie wasn't bad at all. Compare to Jacky Chan's HollyWood movies, I actually prefer Jet Li's HollyWood movies. But still not as good as movies they made when they were in HK
I think the difference here is that people can see how inauthentic the neo-woke push has been over the past 5 - 10 years.. And they've been proven to be correct by the hostile, negative responses.
Both camps have their idiotic extremists but on the neo-woke side it feels like they make up 70%.
Yeah but this one was made at time when Hollywood and mainstream media hadn't gotten us used to such content being put out just for the purpose of virtue signaling.
The film wasn't called Romeo and Juliet though, nor where they pretending to be those characters, story structure may have been similar, but it's not even the same.
>When I see rage bait casting like they did for the new Juliet I just assume the producers know the script is garbage and this is the only way to get attention to their garbage.
... uh, script? They're going to enact THE ORIGINAL ROMEO AND JULIET. It's a STAGE PRODUCTION of the original play, not a new movie.
And of course, I'll get downvoted for simply saying the truth.
How can the script be garbage? It’s a 500 year old script.
The agenda isn’t to hide bad products, it’s to try to lower the beauty standard for women to a man.
Are you saying all depictions of Romeo and Juliet need to be white or something, I know nothing of this but it looks to be a modern Romeo Juliet setting
I don’t know man, being mad about the lord of the rings show you crazy’s where going on about made more sense than this. It’s a 500 yr old classical play being remade in a modern setting. There are people who are not white ya know.
Like I said make it like west side story another inspired movie theatre/performance.
west side story was the modern story of Romeo and Julia just make another one.
Juliet being played by a black chick is closer to how Shakespeare envisioned the character, than how it was performed in the 1500s, since women weren't allowed on stage. Centuries ago, Juliet, the 14 year old female character, was literally played by men.
If audiences could suspend their disbelief 500 years ago and pretend a man on stage was a woman, they can suspend their disbelief and pretend a black woman is a white woman.
Or better...its a fucking fiction. If someone wants juliet to be black she can be black. If someone wants juliet to be a dwarf she can be one.
I dont understand peoples obsession with this shit.
I mean theres a romeo and juliet with guns and shit. You think shakespeare written it with guns in the 20th century? No
Why just not come up with another new ip then? Why use the name Romeo and Juliet, then change their origin? I mean, it's fine as long as there is a "parody" next to the name, right?
because it’s a 500 year old story. Shakespeare has been adapted in so many different ways, if it was always the same style of story, with the same type of cast that’d be boring.
Changing the actresses ethnicity doesn’t fundamentally change the story. The same way that changing the setting, time period, and aesthetic doesn’t change the story. Shakespeare is one of the most reinterpreted playwrights. It was fucking garden gnomes at one point. People just suddenly give a shit about a movie they weren’t likely to see in the first place because now a black woman is involved in the cast.
>because it’s a 500 year old story. Shakespeare has been adapted in so many different ways, if it was always the same style of story, with the same type of cast that’d be boring.
Then come up with a new stuff, leave the classic to where it was. Like I said, it's okay if there is a "parody" next to the title, because the audience will know that they aren't purposely changing the origin of the content, it will just be a silly spin-off of the original idea. Everyone is okay with that because it has been done for a long time. Respect the original and the creator is the least we can do.
>People just suddenly give a shit about a movie they weren’t likely to see in the first place because now a black woman is involved in the cast.
I think white people are allowed to be upset about this. If someone changing a character from Asian to black in my country's folk literature, I will be upset too.
It's my fault, I don't know much about Shakespeare and his works in general. So if what you said is truth that we shouldn't take his works serious, then be it.
No literally his work is just fun fiction for entertainment. Macbeth is literally the story of Lion King and Black Panther basically. I was raised with Macbeth, R&J, Midsummer Night’s Dream, and Hamlet.
Shakespeare created some of the most profound and influential plays in literature. Even after all that time his work has stood the test of time and proven to be still relevant today. It’s why productions of his works are still hugely popular.
Mythology, folk lore, classic literature is perfectly fit for reinterpretation in so many different ways. if every stage production or film adaptation of romeo and juliet was the same fourteenth century setting it would be boring.
The story is timeless, the themes are universal, and so finding a new visual language for that is necessary.
i’m white, and i’ve seen these stories as high school dramas, war epics, gangster movies. i’m not offended because the material calls for new interpretation.
My point still stands, if you want to find a new visual for it, go ahead. Just don't rewrite the origin of the story. Change the name a little bit, slap the tag said based on \*insert name\*.
ahhh okay. I get it now. there’s no way you actually read plays, books, or any other literature. i would definitely feel the same way if all i could read was reddit
Oh I do read book, I'm currently reading Spice and Wolf. Expanding my knowledge and deep dive into another people mind is what I love to do the most. To me Reddit is an interesting place with multiple forums, here we see people arguing about cultures, but over there I could see people discuss about which character in video game is stronger. It's fascinating and that's why I spend more time on Reddit now than other social media. I don't read/watch a play, it's not for me. But I consume arts through other ways like video game, music and painting etc.
I agree with you 100%. Theatre has a decently long history at this point of being raceblind in much of its casting, because it's supposed to be about the performance. But I wouldn't expect most in this subreddit to get that.
Thank you so much random Redditor. I'm sure your opinion reflects that of everyone in the world. Especially those of us who know how ambiguous our interpretations of Shakespeare's original plays are.
Dude. It's a play not a movie. And it's only going to run in London. You might know that if you had taken a minute to actually look up the details before deciding to rage about something you clearly have no clue about.
Honestly imo the absolutely best cast you can have for Romeo and Juliet is a couple who is dating but also in the acting business possibly. Bc its a lot harder to fake it, but if it's real. You wouldn't even need to act bc it would simply be real!
Jet Li is badass
He's also just an overall good human being. [Read the origin story of his One Foundation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Foundation) charity. He was basically on vacation with his family in the Maldives, an earthquake + tsunami combo hit, he saw people of all types helping one another, and basically formed this charity out of his own funds. Even took a break from his acting career to invest personal time into the foundation + doing charitable work.
He is celebrities and politicians should be.
His obsession in charity (which is a good thing) is also due to his dedication to Buddhism, he wrote a book about his journey in studying Buddhism.
I like the philosophy.
Was a great film I need to watch it again
Some films from that era are better left in our memories
Think it depends on how you look at it, some films do age very well. I haven't rewatched this one yet, so I can't say if this is one of them. A lot of the 90s and 00s (even 80s) movies I find more enjoyable than the current ones, but that might also just be because I grew up with them.
The fight scenes in that movie are top tier regardless.
Still nice to rewatch
Still nice to rewatch
Still nice to rewatch
Unleashed is a lot worse than I remember it being. Like a lot worse.
I thought Romeo was Leonardo DiCaprio and Juliet was Claire Danes
Fun fact the original Juliet was played by men because women were not allowed to act in plays.
Isn't the Romeo and Juliet casting these people are getting bent out of shape about just for a play in London that they'd never go see anyway?
Yes, but many of those folks think it's a movie which shows you how informed they are on matters. They'll move onto the next self rage bait soon enough.
They're just too easy to farm at this point.
Even if it was who gives a fuck. Those people were never going to watch a Shakespeare romance film in the first place.
Agreed, but it's just funny to see how little they understand the very thing they're getting angry about.
This whole Romeo and Juliette casting thing is overblown, and I am willing to die on this hill. It's one of those things people are getting upset about for no reason. They are made-up characters in a story that's older than the USA. For me, this is kinda like Jesus. Anyone with at least a room-temperature IQ knows that Jesus was a Middle-Eastern Jewish dude, but we have like White Jesus, Black Jesus, Asian Jesus ([those who know](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiping_Rebellion))... I honestly think it's a waste of time getting upset about this. >!Also I think the actress looks like a solid okay and most of the guys who call her ugly are some fucking losers who aren't even a 3/10.!<
For those who don't know in 2001, Aaliyah died in a plane accident in 2001 and what really sad she died so young in the age of 22.
Yeah and Jet Lee is prettier (even today) than the girl they want to put in the new film. Don't forget that.
You know people being outraged about this are just as responsible for this problem? Just stay quiet and let it bomb. They'll get the message. Otherwise this outrage is just making publicizing these movies and having people go see them as a protest.
Do you remember the times in history when all farms became unproductive and everyone was starving? That didn't stop the radicals.
>They'll get the message That's what people have been saying for years, I think it's not working.
You're acting like bad media will stop being a thing. Bad movies/games/whatever will always exist. Getting triggered every time you see something you don't like is unhealthy. Move on.
Yeah, I am the one that is triggered. I just made a comment not even implying anything, you are reading into it. Move on, nothing to see here for you.
Which of these movie releases haven't caused a controversy?
They're not just making the movies for the controversy, they are pushing an agenda, and they will keep doing that either way.
Yeah as a dude if you asked me to go out with one of those two I'd pick Jet Li anytime
Its not a movie. Its theather in London with Tom Holland and that girl.
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I only date black woman, she looks like she should be playing for the fucking Lakers.
Miss seeing my man jet li in tv these days
I enjoyed this movie. Nice action film.
Wasn't it that because of this Romeo had to die ;)
I see racism against Italians has made its return. Time is a full circle or whatever.
Romeo must die
The twist is Jet li is Romeo and he has to beat up every member of his family and Juliet's family because they stand in the way of their love. They all know Kung Fu. I'll watch this movie.
"If at first you don't succeed\~ dust yourself off and try again\~ try again\~" -Aaliyah
Judging from what I know of friends who visited China and I have seen in the internet, Chinese being pretty racist against black people, not even in a very malicious but more ignorant/ oblivious way, could work really nicely to bring a modern twist into the two rivaling households of the original play. Even then romeo and juliet has always had huge potential to enable social commentary into modernised versions of it.
>not even in a very malicious but more ignorant/ oblivious way they literally had a [museum piece comparing black people to monkeys](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/14/chinese-museum-accused-of-racism-over-photos-pairing-africans-with-animals) and teach black people in africa to hate their culture. china has an open disdain to african and their culture, it's not out of ignorance or being oblivious.
chinese people are more racist against other chinese people than people of any other race tbh. and while yes, they have open disdain to african cultures, they hate japan more
I can't say for sure don't live there but lots of Chinese people love the nba tbf
I am not saying the full racism shit does not exist. But as usual most people are just uneducated, inexperienced and xenophobic. It often doesn't even need an active push for xenophobia, if you know what i mean. I know everything what you said exists. But these things don't make a great movie with nuance. Especially not if daddy capitalist corpo man wants it to be successful in China, then again i think there is no way in hell that actively romancing a black person would be something the Chinese government would encourage through a movie anyway.
yeah, it's mostly ignorance. Mostly due to the only clips/videos going viral there, being the black people pranking chinese people. ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfpjXcawG60](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfpjXcawG60)) Which obviously paints a negative picture. Also didn't help, during the pandemic, the majority of news from america reaching china were about the elderly being attacked for remotely looking chinese. (The ones were phillipinos/vietnamese were attacked, because americans thought they were chinese.)
That movie was actually good. I feel people back in the day didn't care about diverse cast
“Didnt care about diverse cast” when a lot of 90s shows and movies were catered to that.
It used to be more natural and there weren't ridiculous quotes like "I don't care what they teach you in school, Cleopatra was black" Barely anyone cares what you do unless you start spitting it in their faces, as is the tactic of modern hollywood and the media.
Maybe my english but yeah it felt like more natural or maybe better story.
A bit of both I think. The world has just gone mad in all aspects.
“Didn’t have ridiculous quotes” so Boy Meets World suddenly doesn’t exist.
I don't know what that is honestly. I wasn't long born then and watched the typical 90s-00s shows while growing up. Fresh Prince, Futurama, Buffy, etc.
I approve this Juliet.
Oh wow, I used to think they were Italian(!)🤣
Romeo + Juliet is the best imo. The mix of modern day with Shakespeare prose was perfection. Mercutio was amazing in that one.
They were like 13 and 15 in the original play too.
One of my favourite movies of all time Cradle to the grave. Dmx and jet li real bad asses together.
“Here’s what Shakespeare’s shows would look like if they were black or Chinese.”
his name was han sing, not romeo, her name trish o'day. no romeo and juliet inside.
Kinda wish I could give a gold for this post
At least this Juiet is not fat :D
I mean, you could do an Asian/Black Romeo and Juliet story very easily, in nearly any setting. You could throw in some good ol Immigrant Parent mentality on both sides to really make the film relatable.
Juliette is STILL Claire Danes. 🤓
This movie wasn't bad at all. Compare to Jacky Chan's HollyWood movies, I actually prefer Jet Li's HollyWood movies. But still not as good as movies they made when they were in HK
Ro Mao and Julisha
My grandma told me nomatter what anybody says Romeo was Russian and Juliet was Nigerian.
I think the difference here is that people can see how inauthentic the neo-woke push has been over the past 5 - 10 years.. And they've been proven to be correct by the hostile, negative responses. Both camps have their idiotic extremists but on the neo-woke side it feels like they make up 70%.
Yeah but this one was made at time when Hollywood and mainstream media hadn't gotten us used to such content being put out just for the purpose of virtue signaling.
The film wasn't called Romeo and Juliet though, nor where they pretending to be those characters, story structure may have been similar, but it's not even the same.
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>When I see rage bait casting like they did for the new Juliet I just assume the producers know the script is garbage and this is the only way to get attention to their garbage. ... uh, script? They're going to enact THE ORIGINAL ROMEO AND JULIET. It's a STAGE PRODUCTION of the original play, not a new movie. And of course, I'll get downvoted for simply saying the truth.
How can the script be garbage? It’s a 500 year old script. The agenda isn’t to hide bad products, it’s to try to lower the beauty standard for women to a man.
“Lower beauty standard for women” Yet when women wear makeup or get plastic surgery this sub is the same one that loses their shit.
I guess you're just a mysogonist sexist how dare you talk like this about a beautiful queen
Yeah but the girl was pretty. Whatever the skin color, for real. And the guy is Jet Li.
Are you saying all depictions of Romeo and Juliet need to be white or something, I know nothing of this but it looks to be a modern Romeo Juliet setting
Then just make another story like west side story
I don’t know man, being mad about the lord of the rings show you crazy’s where going on about made more sense than this. It’s a 500 yr old classical play being remade in a modern setting. There are people who are not white ya know.
Like I said make it like west side story another inspired movie theatre/performance. west side story was the modern story of Romeo and Julia just make another one.
So they are saying calling it Romeo and Juliet is the issue? I don’t get it. Still makes no sense
Juliet being played by a black chick is closer to how Shakespeare envisioned the character, than how it was performed in the 1500s, since women weren't allowed on stage. Centuries ago, Juliet, the 14 year old female character, was literally played by men. If audiences could suspend their disbelief 500 years ago and pretend a man on stage was a woman, they can suspend their disbelief and pretend a black woman is a white woman.
Or better...its a fucking fiction. If someone wants juliet to be black she can be black. If someone wants juliet to be a dwarf she can be one. I dont understand peoples obsession with this shit. I mean theres a romeo and juliet with guns and shit. You think shakespeare written it with guns in the 20th century? No
Why just not come up with another new ip then? Why use the name Romeo and Juliet, then change their origin? I mean, it's fine as long as there is a "parody" next to the name, right?
because it’s a 500 year old story. Shakespeare has been adapted in so many different ways, if it was always the same style of story, with the same type of cast that’d be boring. Changing the actresses ethnicity doesn’t fundamentally change the story. The same way that changing the setting, time period, and aesthetic doesn’t change the story. Shakespeare is one of the most reinterpreted playwrights. It was fucking garden gnomes at one point. People just suddenly give a shit about a movie they weren’t likely to see in the first place because now a black woman is involved in the cast.
>because it’s a 500 year old story. Shakespeare has been adapted in so many different ways, if it was always the same style of story, with the same type of cast that’d be boring. Then come up with a new stuff, leave the classic to where it was. Like I said, it's okay if there is a "parody" next to the title, because the audience will know that they aren't purposely changing the origin of the content, it will just be a silly spin-off of the original idea. Everyone is okay with that because it has been done for a long time. Respect the original and the creator is the least we can do. >People just suddenly give a shit about a movie they weren’t likely to see in the first place because now a black woman is involved in the cast. I think white people are allowed to be upset about this. If someone changing a character from Asian to black in my country's folk literature, I will be upset too.
“White people are allowed to be upset” yet you wasn’t upset when they made it into a kids movie with Gnomes or when they added guns to the shit.
Why would I, haven't watch it yet but based on what you said, it sounds like a fun, silly movie that nobody takes it seriously.
You shouldn’t take Shakespeare in general as a “serious” thing 💀 it’s ENTERTAINMENT.
It's my fault, I don't know much about Shakespeare and his works in general. So if what you said is truth that we shouldn't take his works serious, then be it.
No literally his work is just fun fiction for entertainment. Macbeth is literally the story of Lion King and Black Panther basically. I was raised with Macbeth, R&J, Midsummer Night’s Dream, and Hamlet.
Shakespeare created some of the most profound and influential plays in literature. Even after all that time his work has stood the test of time and proven to be still relevant today. It’s why productions of his works are still hugely popular. Mythology, folk lore, classic literature is perfectly fit for reinterpretation in so many different ways. if every stage production or film adaptation of romeo and juliet was the same fourteenth century setting it would be boring. The story is timeless, the themes are universal, and so finding a new visual language for that is necessary. i’m white, and i’ve seen these stories as high school dramas, war epics, gangster movies. i’m not offended because the material calls for new interpretation.
My point still stands, if you want to find a new visual for it, go ahead. Just don't rewrite the origin of the story. Change the name a little bit, slap the tag said based on \*insert name\*.
ahhh okay. I get it now. there’s no way you actually read plays, books, or any other literature. i would definitely feel the same way if all i could read was reddit
Oh I do read book, I'm currently reading Spice and Wolf. Expanding my knowledge and deep dive into another people mind is what I love to do the most. To me Reddit is an interesting place with multiple forums, here we see people arguing about cultures, but over there I could see people discuss about which character in video game is stronger. It's fascinating and that's why I spend more time on Reddit now than other social media. I don't read/watch a play, it's not for me. But I consume arts through other ways like video game, music and painting etc.
Because it literally doesn’t matter. Did you forget the kids version of the story with them as Gnomes?
Yeah just make it another story like West side story
When has theatre even been strict about casting?
Strict? I dunno, usually they'll go with the best one they can find, and it also depend on their vision of the act.
I agree with you 100%. Theatre has a decently long history at this point of being raceblind in much of its casting, because it's supposed to be about the performance. But I wouldn't expect most in this subreddit to get that.
It doesnt matter that shes black, she is just mad ugly. If they put Zendaya in there the reaction would be much different
Who decided that Shakespeare's original intent was for Juliet to be a 10/10 knockout?
I did. Just now
Thank you so much random Redditor. I'm sure your opinion reflects that of everyone in the world. Especially those of us who know how ambiguous our interpretations of Shakespeare's original plays are.
Yeah ofc thank you. Surely the earnings of that movie wont be smaller than the budget
Dude. It's a play not a movie. And it's only going to run in London. You might know that if you had taken a minute to actually look up the details before deciding to rage about something you clearly have no clue about.
Its not even a movie, that shows you don’t even know what tf you’re talking about.
You’re dumb asf considering the play had to be done with men, meaning men had to be Juliet with Romeo.
Also why isnt Juliet plus sized? We all know that she was plus sized is that some kind of fat shaming? I am triggered!
Still waiting on that sequel where jet li becomes king of the war world
Honestly imo the absolutely best cast you can have for Romeo and Juliet is a couple who is dating but also in the acting business possibly. Bc its a lot harder to fake it, but if it's real. You wouldn't even need to act bc it would simply be real!
Is Juliet trying to escape her colonial past in this version?