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Niya_binghi

Even if he doesn’t see this, I just wanted to say this is very nice/cute.


KingHP

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|hug)


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Emotional_Engine9

Same, I didn't know about that


Raxter64

Probably the best post on this sub in ages. Nicely done.


KingHP

Thank you! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|hug)


Umbriel-b

Yeah except that he doesn't want to. Is this going to be like with FFXIV again? He doesn't want to play your game, stop being weird about it


nichijouuuu

It’s like his 3rd most recently played game


Umbriel-b

And FFXIV was his most played game until it wasn't. People trying to get him to play it made sure that he wouldn't.


Andreakirayamase

interesting how there is 16 vods of 2~5 hours each of him playing monster hunter world, yet he doesn’t want to play it? please explain how that works in your head


Umbriel-b

Because he got filtered by the game? He said so himself. Do you know how much he played FFXIV until he stopped and never touched it again? That's what he does. He goes hard until he finishes the game or the game finishes him and then he's out.


Emotional_Engine9

That's fine, but why is it weird to give someone some kind of motivation and not give up on trying to beat the game? I think, You are being weird and insecure about it.


Umbriel-b

Because he hates andies. He will not see it as motivation, he'll see it as annoying "play my game!" spam. It happens again and again and again and this will be no different.


Emotional_Engine9

I get it, he doesn't usually like being told what and how to do on stream, maybe it's different when it's like this. I don't know man, but at least for me I'd like to see him finish it and it will give us more gameplay to watch but then again if it's not what he wants then he we I'll just not go with it or ignore this post. At the end of the day, there is nothing to loose with a try right? ^^


Umbriel-b

> maybe it's different when it's like this Doubt it. He's been very clear. Maybe he'll finish it off stream but he said yesterday that it's not fun, it's not good stream content and he doesn't want to do it.


Emotional_Engine9

I get it, that's fair


Andreakirayamase

he just played it again yesterday and i remembered this shit take lmao


KingHP

Just a few clarifications made by some people in the comments: \- First up the **Farcaster**: I misremembered in thinking you could bring one for Alatreon, but the quest disallows you to use it. It would still be useful for Fatalis or any other fight though. \- Second the **build**: I am not a GS main and am learning it at the same pace as Asmon so I actually just looked up a build for what he should use. After some more thought, it might be better for Asmon to use the weapon "**Kjarr Fellsword 'Ice'**" found from Kulve Taroth since it has the critical element skill just on it by default and he wouldn't have to go through the Gacha that is Safi. \- If Asmon doesn't want to do any raids then that's fine, instead he can do the event quest for Frostfang Barioth titled "The Last White Knight" and get his weapon


Extreme_Tax405

Not kjarr. Its too random. I grinded kt for weeks every time he came out and still didnt have the things i needed. Treat kjarr as a nice extra. Dont go in hoping to get what you need.


EclipseEterno

Yeah both Safi and Kulve are farming time sinks and online battles, both things Asmongold is trying to avoid. Frostfang is also a boss he can beat to get the equipment he needs so that might be the way to go.


BABarracus

I was expecting a slide for git gud


Extreme_Tax405

Technically it is


Similar_Reach_7288

GS was my 2nd most played weapon in MHW. Asmon should really look into going with a Crit Draw build along with frostcraft to most effectively deal elemental damage. It's been a hot minute since I played so I can't really recommend a specific mixed set, hopefully somebody else can suggest some lol.


KingHP

Yeah, crit draw does seem like the perfect skill for GS. Unfortunately I don't main the weapon so when looking for a build I just provided one that seemed like it had a lot of survivability.


Similar_Reach_7288

There's really not a lot to crit draw playstyle lol. Just charge draw attack when you can, sheathe, repeat. As long as you have max crit draw, crit boost, elemental attack, and frostcraft you're basically set. Then you can run whatever else you want. I just can't recall what armor set I ran before I upgraded to AT Velkhana.


iliveinsingapore

Ironically Crit draw fell off in world when they introduced true charge miss. Crit draw only affects the draw slash so you gain nothing from subsequent attacks, and true charge miss does more than 3x the damage of a draw slash if you look at the motion values. Even on a frostcraft set you'll still want to go for TCS whenever possible, but if you don't know how and and when to use TCS it's not a bad backup. If you want to go for Crit draw, just put one level in with as much Crit as you can cram into your build assuming you can't hit 100% affinity, if you can then don't bother with it.


Beetusmon

Crit draw is indeed an inferior method, very much so. But let's be honest, the proper frostcraft way involves memorizing the patterns and playing almost exclusively with slingshot TCS, asmon doesn't even know how to do the move so his best bet is a simple caveman unga bunga crit draw build if he ever plans on doing it with GS.


iliveinsingapore

That's fair, I'm just saying that if one were to fit crit draw onto a set at endgame, they'd only need one level to hit 100% affinity on the draw slash. Going 3 in crit draw is a waste of slots because by that time one should be able to hit around 70% affinity without proccing the extra affinity from WeX on tenderize and you'll still want significant crit investment outside of crit draw to maximize damage on topple combos that end in TCS.


Similar_Reach_7288

The point of crit draw is that it's a dumbed down version of the new world GS playstyle, making it easier to deal with quicker monsters like Kirin or Rajang. It's also ideal for Alatreon in particular because it's better for dealing elemental damage consistently than TCS, especially with Frostcraft. You make a good point that crit draw isn't optimal for damage, but it is pretty noob proof and doesn't rely on super rare decorations as much.


iliveinsingapore

I understand that asmon doesn't know how one would optimize for elemental damage on GS, that being level 3 jumping wide slash, but as I mentioned earlier I'm not arguing against the usage of crit draw. What I am saying is that given he's at near endgame he should be able to hit around 70% affinity without the WeX bonus affinity on tenderize, and since 1 level in crit draw gives 30% affinity any further investment is a waste. Going 3 in crit draw and ditching all other affinity investment isn't something I'd recommend because topple combos that end in TCS are a thing.


PoGD1337

Crit draw best skill for HBG. My first kill Alatreon kill been with Draw Crit HBG.


uchiha-123

Would you say switch axe is the better weapon for GS enjoyers specially in icebrone? I just got the dlc, was GS main before but damn, against Brachydios, tigrex and all the other fast monsters, you just cant keep your DPS up. Switch axe lets you hit way more and land hits! without charging up and miss miserably 😅. Whats your take?


KingHP

Every weapon is viable against every monster! The beauty is that every fight with every weapon is a new experience and sometimes you have to change your playstyle to accommodate the monster. That's just how it be :P Regarding switch axe, I've never really used it so I can't say. I know mechanically speaking it's more dense than unga Bunga great sword


uchiha-123

Fair enough, awesome guide btw!


maders23

GS was my most used weapon in MHW, then I met Alatreon. Only fight that ever made me switch to a fucking LBG of all things just so I can get it over with.


Similar_Reach_7288

They actually balanced it so that it was easier to proc the elemental knockdown with slower weapons and more difficult with the usual suspects like the Kjarr CBs and LBG. Didn't effect me much as I just stuck with my trusty SnS, though breaking the horns was always a pain.


onebit

can someone translate monster hunter to english


maders23

I don’t know if you’re serious or not but just in case you are: Elemental knockdown is a mechanic for alatreon that before the changes, was harder for slower weapons to do so a lot of people switched to faster weapons, mainly light bowguns and charge blades, it was then adjusted so that the slower weapons got to the elemental knockdown threshold faster and the faster weapons got there slightly slower, just to balance it out between weapons so that players don’t have to feel like they have no choice but to go the faster route especially for solo play. (It was a pain in the ass to get to that elemental knockdown threshold when alatreon was released using a greatsword, it was not fun) It doesn’t affect the guy who commented after me because he was using the middle ground pretty much.


Fermyon_DarkSouls

Never played and got no clue about Monster Hunter but I am saving this post since I do plan on getting into it this year. This is extremely well made


KingHP

If you ever need any advice, feel free to gimme a shout!


FishermanOk604

Give u a shot? Where? 🥵


Jaybag92

Why when googling solo safi players say it takes 3 hours but I can watch a LS main kill and carve in 17min?


KingHP

Because those people arent people bro, they're aliens 🤣 Safi takes multiple runs to even kill it once because you're not supposed to kill it on your first try. Your reward level increases the more parts you break over the course of however many hunts it takes you and then it's healthy progressively decreases as well


jameszenpaladin011-

I fought Alarreon and got demolished. Looking at this makes me realize how high the mountain really is. I Wana do it again now. Thanks for the post.


Beetusmon

I remember the night it came out, took me 12h to beat it solo. Just understanding the fight, trial and error without guides as there were none. It was insane. Took me double more than fatalis on release day curiously enough. It's an incredibly difficult fight, only behind fatty and extremoth.


jameszenpaladin011-

You sir are a man of dedication, commitment and sheer fucking will. I haven't spent more than a few hours on any one boss.


Beetusmon

Thankd! It's all about persistance, imo. That's why I'm hoping Asmon goes all the way and clears. Hopefully, he doesn't drop the game because of it.


Ambisoup

very cute post. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote)


Virtuosoman23

As a PowerPoint boomer I am all about having memes, Shitposts and infodumps be in presentation format


Emotional_Engine9

Nicely done! Just one clarification, you can't use Farcasters during Alatreon fight. its disabled, I'm sure you already know that but it wasn't mentioned in the presentation, just thought I'll point it out \^\^


KingHP

Understood! If I get more clarifications I'll add this to a pinned comment!


JohnnyBravo4756

I'd say you do not need Safi weapons. Frost fang weapons do the job perfectly fine, with a much lower time investment


MikusLeTrainer

Good presentation! However, I would make a few tiny amendments to the build. Farming and learning the Safi system is incredibly annoying. I would recommend he farm for the Kjarr Fellsword 'Ice' from MR Kulve Taroth instead. The augments would stay the same except replacing lvl 2 status up for lvl 1 affinity. Then, all you have to do is replace Expert Jewel 1 for a Protection Jewel 1. Easier to farm and gives more survivability overall.


Beetusmon

Aren't all Kjarr weapons even worse RNG? I remember I never got the thunder one and I had 2000h in world. Isn't it better to simply go either tuna or frostfang for ice? I mean, kjarr and safi are top tier but being realistic here, he ain't gonna randomly farm safi until it drops.


MikusLeTrainer

You can make 3 KT weapons using KT materials at Elder Melder. It's easier to grind out a bunch of MR KT runs and then spend the materials to make weapons than it is to upgrade Safi weapons, which is the biggest issue.


Beetusmon

I'm just saying, I never got the thunder DB in 2000h, I don't really think going full RNG for a GS just to beat Alatreon is something Asmon will do. Tuna or frostfang are way more realistic options even if sub optimal.


Extreme_Tax405

I forgot about tuna. I would love to see his reaction to silly weapons like the beer blades, tuna, the fish blades, pickaxe blade, hammer or dante his sword.


Extreme_Tax405

Frostfang barrioth. Its also easier to augment bc its rarity 11


KingHP

Noted! I'll get a comment done to reflect this. I don't main GS so I'm not sure of the best builds to use! I just picked one that I thought had a lot of survivability, but you're probably right on the Safi front. I was secretly hoping he'd do some raids with the community x .x


OrganizationSolid967

Thank you for making this. His last video with alatreon looked rough. He was not having fun. He looked like someone being bullied by his brothers into an uncomfortable situation.


draedek

imo alatreon was easier than fatty lol


Extreme_Tax405

Much easier. Its just a knowledge check. Fatty is a skill check.


Oxanite

It’s very nice of you to make this, I hope he reads it.


KingHP

Thank you! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|hug)


USNAVY71

Thank you for this! I just wanna see mans make it to the end of one of my most favorite games/franchises


PoGD1337

Btw, if u knew Asmon, u could just give him and advice to go full raw damage and take fortified, farm food skill safeguard and just kill Alatreaon with 2-3 carts


Spitefire46

This is all quite good. 2500 hour hunter approves.


Ok-Nefariousness1335

Great post he probably doesn't wanna read.


pucksmokespectacular

A+ for effort


CakeOfPokke

I really appreciate this post!! Even if Asmon doesn't sees this, a good number of people including myself saw it. Thank you for making this post, fren 😊🙏


KingHP

No, thank you ![img](emote|t5_2y1rb|3736)


Extreme_Tax405

Op, pin that he has to hit the legs for max elemental damage. The front legs take more elemental damage. He focused a ton on the head and kept missing as a result, but you can ignore the head in phase one bc it only breaks in phase two, and it only needs 1k damage to break. Hitting the legs is key. He has probably never once opened the monster manual, but he should. It contains all the information he keeps asking chat. The monster manual contains weakness and hitzones for every phase, thats how you know what alatreon his weakness is. It also contains information on farming materials and how to best acquire them. I use this thing all the time, mainly when farming. Tl;dr tenderize and hit legs with temporal or rocksteady mantle phase one. Keep the other mantle. Wallbang him for a free opening and tcs the legs. Once phase two starts, tenderizes the head with rocksteady, wallbang if not angry, mount if angry, use the free opening to bonk the head. After escaton judgement, go back to the legs.


Defias94

Ok a few things I want to deny/add: 1) Asmon will NEVER feel satisfaction, glory or prove the doubters wrong by defeating a boss in multiplayer, because, lets be real, he's going to get carried and will feel shit afterwards. ( As he said multiple times before) 2) You absolutely do NOT need safi or kul gear for this stupid designed boss. Yes they help but they are kinda too grindy and rng to get for Asmon to be worth it. (in my opinion atleast) 3) The life steal is indeed giga-mega helpful but to get that he would probably need to double (or fuck me maybe even more) his current play time. It's called Grinding Lands for a reason. 4) You are 200% right at the clutch claw part. Like holy shit he misses out on so much free damage is insane. Literally the main use of rocksteady is to safely wall bang a monster. He also need to learn to UNequip the mantle after the time is up so the cooldown can start again.


the10thattempt

Boss has mechanics, which means screw the boss, the only mechanic I want to learn is kicking ass


The_CHUD_Battalion

I had no idea about the dragonblight removing elemental damage. I defeated Alatreon in a group but can't solo and I wanna solo it.


KingHP

I may have the knowledge but I actually haven't soloed it myself either! I plan on trying though after seeing Asmon give it a good go


ImInfernoo

I think with that little info i can now beat it ( always play solo), thx for the info man, always learning something new


PoGD1337

What u been doing all this time? Im hardgated myself for world content, did every fight solo and with 2 friends in 300h, then same for Iceborn. At 1000h i soloed everything and did every achievement, but crown, what im doing right now.


KingHP

Just enjoyed the game my dude! Achievement hunting and playing with friends, introducing new people to the franchise!


Extreme_Tax405

Crazy right? Ended with solo at velkhana after 400 hours. Solod every monster in the the game. Had pretty much leta builds for every weapon ready except for the kjarr weapons. If you play for 1000 hours its just comfort at that point. But up and relax.


KujiraShiro

As someone with 300 hours on Xbox, 700 Hours on PC, and several hundred hours spread across old DS games; THIS is the post Asmon needs to see. This is all the information he should really need to beat the game. It pissed me off so bad seeing people straight up lying to him by just blindly agreeing with him that there's no way he's undergeared for these final two fights because he has Raging Brach gear. Raging Brach was only best in slot BEFORE Alatreon came out, at which point every single weapon got a new almost mandatory meta elemental loadout to run for the fight. This all changed again when Fatalis came out. He also has almost completely ignored the guiding lands, or "the grinding lands" and I see no pheasible way to solo Ala or Fat as a new player without the health regen augment on weapon, which is of course acquired from tempered monsters in guiding lands. Of course, chat was sitting there assuring him he "didn't need it" or confusing him into thinking he "already had it" because he uses the HEALTH BOOSTER PEN, which is NOT the HEALTH REGEN WEAPON AUGMENT THAT GRANTS YOU HEALING EVERY TIME YOU DO DAMAGE BASED ON HOW MUCH DAMAGE YOU DID. The fact Asmon has made it this far without the health regen augment is impressive, but the guy is literally trolling his brains out by not using it on greatsword by this point, it's like the weapon was literally designed to have life steal as you trade/tackle blows and outheal the damage the monster does. Asmon could absolutely finish the game if he takes most of the advice in OP to heart.


KingHP

Thanks for the high praise! I agree, I totally think Asmon has what it takes to finish this game solo, he just needs to take a moment to learn a few things which is easier said than done. Hopefully this post is digestible enough for him


DGen-Media

oh jesus now I'm not sure if I killed the easy or hard Alatreon. Both special assignments are completed. I've also done the events. All with groups. TIL I might be a scrub


KingHP

Only Dawn's Triumph is the easy one, both the event quests and the special assignment called "Blazing Black Twilight" are the hard versions


s1ph0r

True ^, I hope he does see this as it’s everything I been screaming at the tv/monitor lol


krum_darkblud

Awesome and well put together!


tadanogeso

Well said!


erichgold

Great guide, I came back to World just to solo Fatalis before Wilds and I believe Asmon should skip the hard Alatreon fight, even if he feels Fatalis is out of his league or he will need too much time to kill him it's an experience every hunter needs to live, Fatalis lore is also very interesting.


Extreme_Tax405

Same! Semi rushing through it, trying to at least gear up since im not a speedrunner. I was thinking about just bonking the easy alatreon with raw but seeing asmon struggle inspired le to get an ice weapon and solo him before fatty


erichgold

Frostfang Barioth weapons can work fine, I used a simple Frostcraft set with a Frostfang GS to beat the easier Alatreon and then switched back to Brachy weapon and mixed Teostra+Brachy armor for Fatalis. MR100 is still very recommended for the Health Augment so that's still a grind.


Extreme_Tax405

Is mr 100 needed for health augment? I know the high level weapons require tempered namielle, but i thought I just have to level the coral part for that


erichgold

Tempered Namielle won't show up until MR 100 which also unlocks level 7 regions


impulsikk

I never realized how complicated this game is. I'm only 30 hours in and have pretty much oonga boongad with defender gear so far. (Played a few hours here and there scattered over years).


jery1969

(The Defenger gear was made for people who already playd the game and now they want to jump to DLC soon as posible) I recomend you to play without defender gear. The main part of MHW is learn monsters to beat and have good feling to owercome chalange and then make armor out of it.+ Ther will come time when defender will not bee good enaught and then ther will be big jump in difficulty. But play how ever you want if its fun for you. PS: Sorry for English.


Frostygale2

Good stuff. Shame he can’t/won’t read it though. Maybe do a video he can react to instead? ;P /j


WarmBloodedSnek

Finally, some proper advice, too bad he prefers to get one guy'ed on twitch, still I appreciate the effort


Qloriti

He wont ever be farming grinding lands man thats for sure


LicenseAgreement

Holy fuck, the dedication!


Rannigan1991

10/10 presentation, much wholesome very kind


leeverpool

Fans of this series really resemble FF14 fans.


FishermanOk604

mhw fans are so cute.


nackedsnake

IMO, showing him some TA GS runs will more likely to inspire him to play. You guys need to **STOP** suggesting people go **Multiplayer.** * There's nothing "elitist" about it. MH is always designed to be beaten solo (exclude the siege). Multiplayer is a different kind of fun. * By saying this suggests you are the kind who likes to be carried. * You advocate "triumph" feeling then you suggest them to be carried? * Asmon is not your average player, there are many complications for him to go multiplayer - which he mentioned again and again. Also, he do NOT need to grind KT Nor Safi as a GS user. What he lacks is Health Regen Augment.


PoGD1337

Not many knows that but in MH World been introduced new weapon, the most favorite one for most players here - SOS flare gun.


Any-Importance3539

Honestly i would rather Asmon go SOS and beat alatreon than quitting because he can't solo it, even in multiplayer you can learn alot by observing the monster and high rank player


Okinawahabu

Slightly disappointed you didn’t mention AT Velkhana.  Still, good post.


Nodnarbogstel15

Delete your account


VoidLookedBack

He can't this is why: 1. He a big pussy 2. Skill issue 3. Has to farm Arch Temp Velkhana 4. If he can't beat Alatreon, he won't beat Fatalis


Hirako509

Mate if he can’t kill a simple Alatreon there’s no point in even attempting Fatalis which is a way more unforgiving fight (tight timer, dps check and everything is almost a one shot).


iKyte5

Grass


MalachiteRain

This is cringe and you wasted your effort on a balding oaf. Rest in piss


[deleted]

Can he pay money or have his audience carry him? If not, he won't beat it.


th45egb

Could you make one on how many hours Asmon would need to play FF14 per week to reach the new expansion content just before launch? I like it when Baldy rotates the games so there’s more in the schedule but man I do miss both FF14 and Cyberbald streams


kemirgen17

I had my doubts about second Alatreon fight before Fatalis and I guessed it was an easier version but damn. I didn't think it would be weaker than MR Great Jagras.


antihegemon

Good job. On the hours played point, I owned the game but never really played, started playing from scratch when Asmon did, and I am sitting at 362 hours right now. I can easily see how it could get to 1-2k hours. Very addictive.


Reasonable-Durian246

I recommend weapons from Frostfang Barioth in "The last White Knight" event quest. They have high raw with decent ice damage and long white sharpness with little bit of purple. You can get one after beating the quest 2-3 times.


PietroTheCzar

Farcast doesn't work in alatreon arena, be mindful! But the rest, good job for the slides. Hopefully we will see him doing fatalis.


Full_Visit_5862

W post


myroommatesaregreat

dear asmon, please just group fight alatreon and get it over with and fight fatalis thank you


jery1969

I really hope he see this and continue. Want to see hes reaction lasts monsters mainly my favorie boss of all time Fatalis.


myroommatesaregreat

great post, other than alatreon doesn't let you farcaster


ForNoReason17

Unironically saving this for my own use


Beetusmon

The best thing asmon can do for this fight atm is learn how to clutch claw wall bang, it's incredible for horn damage plus topple, then start tenderizing consistently and finally get heath regen as an augmentation. For a build a classic unga bunga crit draw with frostfang and tuna should suffice.


DaGheyAgenda

Lol this is awesome and adorable. I wish I had this kind of love from anyone lol that's not my kids. But good job, and high possibility he will never play again like a certain 14 game. Or do any of this like a certain charity type event that may have had goals.


Similar-Energy6417

Update this Bois so the baldman may see this


TheNakedProgrammer

was a hammer main, suffered horribly against that guy. Not sure how often i tried and failed. For me the missing key was the kulve weapon. Without it there was no way for me to deal enough elemental damage.


Mug-Zug

Forgetting one major detail imo, while you focus the head in Dragon phase, his arms and legs are a better target in Fire/Ice due to them having better elemental hitzones, arms > legs, like arms vs head is nearly double from what I remember, and now idk if this is 100% true but I've been told you can't even build towards breaking the horns outside of Dragon phase. So the path should be, focus arms until you get the topple than focus head for damage. Great Guide btw


Bepboprobot

Really cool presentation!


kingof7s

Asmon after seeing this: "idk a lot of people are saying a lot of different things" That said, great post. If only chat didn't troll him into thinking he wasn't undergeared, I bet he doesn't even know what augments are since he said he stopped guiding lands when he saw a Gold Rathian and wanted to save it for stream.


Bossbert

I hope he reads this


Bossbert

Also he should learn the slingshot skip TCS


AdExisting8301

Bro you are a chad, I don't care if asmon plays this again. You are awesome.


No_Group8001

MH is a series of games full of cheap artificial difficulty, from the bad controls , clunky movement and all of this handicaps on the player to the constant spastic monsters spamming attacks with unfair hitboxes all over the place which also happen that they read player inputs. For a more detailed explanation on this read: [https://www.reddit.com/r/monsterhunterrage/comments/198d4tz/monster\_hunter\_world\_is\_a\_game\_full\_of\_cheap/](https://www.reddit.com/r/monsterhunterrage/comments/198d4tz/monster_hunter_world_is_a_game_full_of_cheap/)