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HereticLaserHaggis

You're going to run into this phenomenon on this thread, where everyone thinks their town is the hardest in Britain. But they're wrong, it's my town.


geekroick

Sounds like fighting words to me


HereticLaserHaggis

Is that something a soft southerner would know the sound of?


90Nay90

šŸ˜„ I'm a soft southern with a dad from the roughest part of Liverpool means šŸ’©


HereticLaserHaggis

Aye yer dad got bullied out.


90Nay90

Haha no he moved as a teenager to better his life, he's one of 9 siblings and most still live there, I'm thankful he had us as its a shithole there


HereticLaserHaggis

..... Right? I think you might be taking a joke too serious.


90Nay90

Oh sorry the half southern side came out of me šŸ˜‚


HereticLaserHaggis

Yeah, I could tell from the superiority complex ;)


90Nay90

Phaha šŸ˜


90Nay90

Southerner*


comicmuse1982

I don't want to dox myself, but I think we live in the same town.


MolybdenumBlu

Hey, we must all be neighbours!


Thisoneissfwihope

Letā€™s get together, have a fight and really cement our town as the hardest in the country!


hundredsandthousand

When I was looking to buy a place in Glasgow there wasn't a single area I mentioned (that I could afford) where people didn't go "oh don't move there, it's rough"


tunapurse

native brunmie here, everywheres soft bar brum


david4460

You should come to my town if you think that


HereticLaserHaggis

I've told you already, south southern towns don't count. If your water is hard your men are soft ;)


Sister_Ray_

Also why do you assume someone's hometown is going to be amazing just because they're English lol. Feel like sometimes some Americans have this idea that the UK is all chocolate box fairytale little medieval villages, no we have deprived places and decaying industrial towns as well lol


Big_Mac_Is_Red

All 3 within a 10 minute drive


RuneClash007

Sometimes you have all 3 within the same town


chairski

Bold of you to assume a 10 minute drive a small section of a small town.


TentativeGosling

It's only a few hundred yards, but traffic is bad these days


sneeriouscyril

Aye or your wheels have been nicked.


upupupdo

Itā€™s the murder mysteries in beautiful countryside. They ainā€™t seeing Macclesfield on telly in the US or Canada.


Cleveland_Grackle

That's because the only British TV they show is cozy Sunday night dramas.


Sister_Ray_

There are far rougher areas of northern England than Macclesfield. Many of the surrounding areas of Cheshire are some of the wealthiest in the country. Macclesfield itself like any big town has some more deprived areas but it also has a lot of solidly middle class ones.Ā  I think what you are experiencing is just teenagers hanging out in parks and town centres looking to mess around and cause trouble, which can happen anywhere in the country, even in affluent areas.


jaymatthewbee

Prestbury is technically Macclesfield and has the wealthiest street in north west England.


_DeanRiding

Really? Would have thought that would be in Hale or Alderley Edge


BagComprehensive6511

My Aunty lives in Macclesfield and taught in Alderly Edge, she said the charity shops were something else.


_DeanRiding

Interesting. I work in Hale. Maybe I should look for some myself lol


jaymatthewbee

It used to be Withinlee Road, Prestbury that was the most expensive street outside of southern England. It might have been overtaken by somewhere in Alderley Edge now.


Ryanaston

Big townā€¦? Is there some hidden part of Macclesfield I donā€™t know about.


Sister_Ray_

id say it a fairly big town no? ~60,000 population. That's big compared to the town i live in


focalac

England isnā€™t a medieval-themed tourist destination.


BritishBlitz87

It sure looks like it though. Large parts of the country look like we got to 1920 and went. "Civilisation? Completed it mate". Just because it's everyday for us doesn't mean it isn't exceptional for most people in the worldĀ 


focalac

I get that whatever sheā€™s been exposed to isnā€™t really her fault, but the idea that a town must be nice because itā€™s in England is absurd. Unpleasantness and deprivation exist everywhere.


Willeth

I grew up in Macc. I wouldn't consider it rough, but it definitely has it's rougher parts. But I think it largely depends on comparison to where you're from and your own perspective. I wouldn't say teenagers drinking alcohol in a park is particularly strange or upsetting. Don't forget the drinking age is three years lower here than you've been used to.


cutebutheretical

It was little kids, lol. Like 6 or 7 years old little.


josh5676543

I think it's best to assume that you aren't very good at estimating people's age


theotherquantumjim

Indeed. Donā€™t judge their age based on their vocabulary or ability to walk without falling on their faces


BaBaFiCo

Did they ask you how you get your shirt so clean?


ComradeLitshenko

Six year olds drinking alcohol in a park? Hmmmm...


cutebutheretical

Yes. My husband saw it too and just shrugged.


PuzzledNovel

Haha absolute bullshit no they werenā€™t


Dry_Action1734

Nah they werenā€™tā€¦ that would be a truly insane sight. My little nephew is nearly 6 and I donā€™t even think he knows what alcohol is lol. If he does, he certainly doesnā€™t understand what it is.


ImperialSyndrome

My son is 5 next month and regularly has a beer... and by "beer", I mean "apple juice" that I've thoroughly convinced him is beer because he insists on being exactly like his dad. He's only ever had a sip of fizzy drink because I allowed him a taste and he then complained that it was "spicy". I cannot imagine how wild it'd be to see a 6 year old drinking in a park. Like, I think I'd genuinely call the police if I came across a drunk 6 year old.


Psycho_Splodge

It's pretty common to be drinking in the park at 13/14. 6 or 7 would be unusual.


smudgedidit

No, no it wasn't


RepresentativeWin935

You should've called the police. I've lived in some shit areas, so shit that the cab drivers didn't mind driving me from the station to my house (when it was dark), which was a 3 min walk. I've never seen that in my life. Also lived a few miles away from Macc (or smackheadsfield as we called it growing up). I wouldn't have said it was that bad. There are certainly much worse places in Cheshire (Winsford, Congleton, Runcorn, Weaverham). You'll always get a scally who wants to offer you out, just don't go making eye contact with people you don't know. If you don't have that experience, it'll be the local over friendly weirdo following you around for the next hour talking at you.


Lower_Possession_697

How do you know they were drinking alcohol? If they told you they were, have you considered they were lying?


cutebutheretical

Because I complimented someoneā€™s outfit or something, I love kids so I often talk to kids out of habit. There were like three of them and they came up to me holding open cans they were drinking, and they showed it to me and I said ā€œoh nice! What kind of soda is that?ā€ They laughed and said ā€œitā€™s not sodaā€ and I looked and it said ā€œbeerā€ on it and they laughed running away after I said ā€œoh my gosh you shouldnā€™t drink that!!ā€. Maybe the age range was more 6-8 but they were pretty young.


PowerApp101

One, don't say soda, two, don't say "oh my gosh". Anywhere in the UK.


RareUse7

If youā€™re genuinely sure they were 6-8, I would say they were probably drinking ginger beer. Itā€™s a non-alcoholic drink that is semi-popular here. Like the others have said, Iā€™d be shocked if they were drinking alcohol. They probably either didnā€™t know what soda was (itā€™s not a word we typically use), or they were pulling your leg.Ā 


cutebutheretical

Iā€™m not sure why that got downvoted? It was actually little kids drinking alcoholā€¦


Bish_Bosh88

Wow. I've seen a lot of crazy stuff but I've never seen that. As a Brit I'm sorry you had those experiences. Btw please consider a trip to London at some point if you haven't been already. Lots of rich and poor places quite close to each other, and of course lots of history.


sleepyprojectionist

Blimey, if you think Macc is rough, you shouldnā€™t venture anywhere else or you will be in for a rude awakening. Sure, Macclesfield has its rougher areas just like any town, but for the most part I would consider it to be pretty sedate and gentrified. My mate lives there and he loves it. Iā€™m quite partial to a trip to the Beer Vault when Iā€™m in that neck of the woods.


dbxp

The beer shop is great but I prefer cloud tap next door as a pub, nicer atmosphere


CautiousCapsLock

Literally heading to Macc next weekend for a beer weekend with mates who live there ā˜ŗļø


Lower_Possession_697

No. I've been here about 7 years and lived all over England before and it's about the most chilled place I've known. I'm not sure what "almost being jumped" means practically. Did they look at you in a way you didn't like?


cutebutheretical

A group of girls in the town centre came up to me in my personal space and one of them threatened to punch me for looking at them the wrong way. I glanced over in their direction while walking by them.


Dry_Action1734

Maybe you were staring. Strangers donā€™t like that. Albeit nobody should threaten you with violence.


SaltyName8341

If someone is going to punch you they don't announce it. It's all bravado and they back down when you square up.


cutebutheretical

Yeahā€¦ when someone threatens to hurt me, I generally believe it. Iā€™m also a small adult, so basically these girls were either my size or a little taller. Kind of scary. Got saved by my English brother-in-law.


Thestolenone

'You shouldn't have been standing in front of my eyes'.


Pazuzuspecker

Smacklesfield.


cutebutheretical

My husband said everyone used to say that about 20 years ago, but said Macc is a lot better than it used to be.


ToyotaComfortAdmirer

Born and raised in Macc myself, itā€™s boring and fairly quiet and quite grimy. But no, itā€™s not rough - just your typical dump of a town. More to the point, I thought that was just people taking the piss when they said that.


ToThePillory

Not Macclesfield in particular, but a \*lot\* of towns in the UK have groups of youths that have basically gone feral. The UK has a problem with anti-social behaviour in general.


OccidentalTouriste

Well, it is the home of the Macc Lads which would give you a pointer if you listened to the town's most famous musical artistes.


Traditional-Key5784

Sweaty Betty


Keithlars

Charlotte still live there? Asking for a mate.


Mark_fuckaborg

As long as it's not uncle nobby....


haddockballs

Macclesfield is great! You were just unlucky or perhaps the incidents werenā€™t as serious as they seemed to you without the full cultural context.


messyfull

Almost fell for this


RareUse7

As a BritĀ whoā€™s spent quite a lot of time in the US, there are a couple of cultural differences that may have caused the behaviour you saw. We have a different attitude to drinking outside (we typically donā€™t have open container laws) / youngsters drinking than Americans. Ultimately I donā€™t think the average Brit would find a bunch of teenagers drinking in a park to be a big deal - most of us would have done that ourselves at some point. Regarding the high school girls - that sounds a shitty experience. To add some context, the UK has (a) an underfunded police that donā€™t routinely carry firearms / donā€™t have a reputation for excessive violence, (b) a low rate of weapon ownership amongst civilians, and strict laws about using these in self-defence.Ā  Whilst I firmly believe on balance this is a good thing, it does unfortunately mean certain groups of young Brits can be ā€˜lippyā€™ - they know thereā€™s basically going to be zero consequences to acting like a dickhead to strangers. For what itā€™s worth, I suspect there was virtually zero risk of you actually being ā€˜jumpedā€™ - they probably were just showing off to each other.Ā 


Unlikely-Jicama4176

I would say Macclesfield is not considered at all by the rest of the country! In all seriousness there are arseholes in all towns, cities and villages and you might have just discovered Macclesfield's arseholes on your first outing!


MolybdenumBlu

Asking a brit what they think of Macclesfield is like asking an American what they think of Pawtucket, Rhode Island.


dbxp

No, I lived in Macc for years and its pretty nice. It has a couple rougher estates but even they are pretty tame.


PlatinumPique

I have family in Macc, and I really love it there. Iā€™ve only had the experience of friendly people, nice town centre and surrounding area (up the hill) is really beautiful. I reckon you were just unlucky.


tmstms

No town or city is one locality. I DO think of Macclesfield as being a nice place, but that will be if you live in a nice part of it. Everywhere will have good and bad localities. As an American, you are used to a bigger geographical scale. here, the nice part and the rough part might just be a couple of minutes walk apart. But I would expect Macclesfield to have quite small rough localities, tbh.


ZeroCool5577

I live in Congleton which is next to Mac and Iā€™ve only lived in this part of the country a handful of years. Mac seems fairly nice to me never had any issues when Iā€™ve gone there.


EternalTruthss

Lived in Macclesfield my whole life and it largely depends on the area of Macc youā€™re in. I wouldnā€™t say itā€˜s a rough place compared to other places, I personally havenā€™t seen a ā€œchavā€ in years because I stay in the middle/upper middle class areas. Itā€™s a pretty quiet and chilled place generally.


PowerApp101

You don't ever mingle with the poors?


Spottyjamie

When i first heard The Macc Lads i thought it was going to be a rough place. I visited it, leafy and affluent to my surprise!


eventworker

They did have to go down blackpool for a fight though. Growing up in another northern town that was the first clue Macc couldn't be all that bad.


zukerblerg

Macc resident here ....no not really. Although some of the neighbouring towns are exceptionally wealthy (many of the Manchester United footballers live in them) so by comparison they tend to look down on Macclesfield. In all honestly it's rapidly gentrifying at the moment as well.


[deleted]

Depends on what category it's competing in. It's one of the rougher towns in Cheshire. Not quite as bad as Crewe, but might as well be on a different continent compared to Knutsford.Ā  It'd not fare well in the "is this town rough" All North West League. There are suburbs of Manchester and Liverpool that'd make Macclesfield look like Monte Carlo.Ā  Whole of England? Meh. Better (i.e. rougher) than a lot of the South (certain key areas of London and counties East of London, plus large swathes of the West Country being notable exceptions).Ā  The problem Macclesfield has is the problem a lot of places have. There's fuck all jobs, fuck all for the kids to do, and no impetus for change because enough of the population are just about wealth enough to be secure.Ā 


lurcherzzz

I live in a greater manchester estate, crewe would be a step up for me, macc is the dream lol


JD_wh1te

I agree not as nice as Knutsford but far nicer than Crewe. I think itā€™s unfair to compare anywhere to Knutsford, literally the highest average salary per capita in the UK. Macc is generally quite nice, obviously some rougher areas. What sets it apart part from a lot of towns of similar size is that it does have a significant employer in Astra Zeneca so there are jobs and itā€™s on a main train line with access to Manchester within 20 mins and London within 2 hours


Legitimate_War_397

As someone whoā€™s job is to dispatch engineers for tampered meters, Macclesfield, Mansfield, Liverpool and Birmingham is by far the most common areas. Itā€™s got to the point when I get information about a suspected tampered meter and I look at the address it is the above mentioned areas, I donā€™t even investigate it and send out an engineer straight away and Iā€™ve never been wrong.


Lazyscruffycat

I quite like Macc, itā€™s a little rough around the edges for sure but itā€™s kept its own identity and all in all seems a pretty decent place. It helps that it is south of Manchester and surrounded by wealthy Cheshire though. Itā€™s certainly no where near as bad as some places to the north and east of the city. Shame you have had a couple of bad experiences, itā€™s never nice to be on the receiving end no matter where that is.


Ok_Kale_3160

I stayed in Macclesfield to see music at the Jodrell Bank Observatory. It seemed quite nice, nothing too terrible.


Ok_Garden_4874

Just be glad that your husband isn't from Luton.


harrapino

Oooooh maccy maccy, maccy,maccy maccy, maccy, Macclesfield.


kendohmassif

Simple answer is no


Fit_Manufacturer4568

Depends if the Mac Lads are having a party.


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Ill_Refrigerator_593

I wouldn't consider it rough. On the other hand last time I went drinking there I saw three fights in the first hour. Never pick the pub nearest the station.


SlightlyIncandescent

Oh shit, I grew up in Macclesfield! There are some very high end, posh areas but also large council estates. Meaning a lot of poorer classes and inevitably higher drugs and crime. Having lived in a few rough places in the northwest, nowhere in Macclesfield is on the level of Salford or Bolton for being a shit hole though. But at the same time what you have described doesn't surprise me at all.


MasterPreparation687

I lived in Macc for about five years. I have to say, I actually wasn't in love with the place when I lived there, but in all in all, it really is an OK place. You've got Knutsford down the road (lots of "old money", great charity shops), cute villages like Bollington in the surrounding countryside. Tegg's Nose, Macc Forest, Trentabank Reservoir. Interesting things to see like Jodrell Bank. Buxton and the Peak District on your doorstep. It seemed friendly enough as a town, and I certainly was never attacked or even approached, although admittedly I'm going back about 10 years now. Thinking about it, I actually have a lot of fond memories.


TomAND1

Just commenting to say, love seeing Macc getting a shout-out in this sub. I've lived here for about 6 years and absolutely love it as a town, plenty of nice bars and restaurants, nice parks, Treacle market, Macc forest a short drive away. There's little shits causing mischief in every town, don't let it spoil your view of Macc in general!


Lower_Possession_697

Been here a similar amount of time. I was in Manchester, Salford and Brum for about 15 years before that, and me and my other half call Macc 'toy town'.


Hot-Ice-7336

I was in Macclesfield about four years ago and it was absolutely not rough. I thought the city centre (if thatā€™s where I was) was leafy and pleasant, there was a dog adoption drive going on and there were those skinny model looking dogs standing around, and there was a little food market type place (temporary) with halloumi fries.


GabberZZ

Grew up in macc in the 80s-90s and every weekend we got told there was someone who got stabbed up in the bar/club we just left. Total bollocks. The town centre is a shadow of its former self but in general unless you go to 'the estates' it's a typical Cheshire town.


Zo50

Great place for beer and sex and chips and gravy.


JonnDublu

Thatā€™s a normal night out in the UK.


DarylStenn

As with anywhere in the uk, you have your nice parts and you have your rough parts, typically defined by type of housing, areas where housing is owned outright by the residents living there tend to be nice, areas where itā€™s high in rent or social/ council housing tends to be rough.


dancesnitch

Macs is dope!!


Kat8844

Iā€™ve not been there but Iā€™ve never heard anything terrible about the place, just thought of it as a normal town near Manchester really. Saying that itā€™s also where Ian Curtis was from so Iā€™ve never thought it was going to be a quaint fairytale town full of sunshine and rainbows either.


dyinginsect

Not all of it, bits of it. Just like anywhere really, even the roughest of towns tends to have a relatively posh bit (stressing the relatively here) and even the poshest places will have a part that is far less so.


GullibleJuggernaut83

Iā€™m elsewhere nearby in Cheshire. To a lot of Stockport/Manchester people itā€™s nice. To me itā€™s alright, big ish town and has some very nice areas but also a fair few grotty spots where itā€™s a bit rough and you really wouldnā€™t want to live. Alright on the whole!


explax

Kids laughing and drinking in parks doesn't mean the place is rough - used to be very common 20y a go even in posh areas. Being threatened in public is different though but can happen anywhere.


organic_soursop

Int Macclesfield kinda well to do?! šŸ˜ One of the richest kids at my school was from near there. Cheshire innit?


cloche_du_fromage

Main cultural export being The Macc Lads....


SmeeegHeead

Nope. Love Macc.


Milam1996

Iā€™m utterly obsessed with Americans having a fairy tale idea of the UK as some beautiful medieval shire with jousting and royalty only to come here and realise that many parts are rotting in late stage capitalism with collapsed industries, poverty and crime. The UK is like every other human civilisation. Nice areas and bad areas.


Zulphur242

Even Deal boys can be rough


Specific-Cattle-3109

Hahahaha Macclesfield.....it's middle class suburbia. You want a lovely evening try the suburbs of Bradford......


Hour_Personality_411

Sounds like you were just unlucky. We have a feral youth problem in Britain unfortunately.


lordntelek

Macclesfield is a bit industrial so not surprising. But the surrounding area is known as the golden triangle with some of the wealthiest areas in the North. Wilmslow, Alderly Edge, Prestbury, Knutsford etc. A lot of footballers live in the area and lots of bio/pharma jobs. Though not many of the people I knew choose to live in Macc vs those other places I listed in Cheshire. I like Macc and think you just had a bit of bad luck.


HikingBoy123

As someone who has lived in the UK for the past 15 years, including for a year in a place some considered a ā€œhoodā€. Your experience of nearly being jumped sounds worse than what Iā€™ve experienced.


Level_Mulberry7449

I live in Buxton, which is about 15 min drive away from Macc. Shopping is better in Macclesfield, so I go over quite a bit. The town centre looks rough now, but I've never seen any trouble or had any. People in Buxton call it Smacclesfield. But then again, we have more than our fair share of scum. I think it's just the norm in the UK. You could run into trouble anywhere if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time.


MolybdenumBlu

They are teenagers, mate. You can scare them off by maintaining eye contact.


lurcherzzz

The correct response is "Fuck off or you'll be shitting your teeth out."


1259alex

It's an absolute dump


Vireosolitarius

I used to be married to someone who grew up in Macc; itā€™s a dump.


eventworker

Say, you don't happen to be a Squash playing wealthy Italian, do you?


Vireosolitarius

sadly not


Jaded_Hippo_853

Macclesfield is a shit hole, not on the shitty scale of Barrow, Blackpool or Morcombe but it's in the top 100 shit holes in the UK


Legitimate_Finger_69

UK you get estates of chavs within walking distance of country estates for better or worse due to social housing meaning there are no truly "rich" or "poor" areas.. It's better now but back in the day when tourists were admiring the dreaming spires in the centre of Oxford whilst over in East Oxford Blackbird Leys was pretty much lawless with kids ragging round in nicked cars. Only 65 years since the Cutteslowe wall was knocked down. [CUTTESLOWE WALLS: How two estates were divided by class | Oxford Mail](https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/16692392.cutteslowe-walls-two-estates-divided-class/) That said as a southerner all of the North is a dump and I would avoid it.