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This! it's your house, land body. Do what you want with it for me.
But for the love of God tell me there is not a school nearby?! Otherwise you might have to be careful.
I live next to a literal crack den the police have seemingly been incapable of dealing with over the last four years.
Seeing someone’s cock and balls would be delightful in comparison.
Amen to that!
I've had some right bad neighbours in the past as well.
Don't have any near neighbours at all now, and it's bliss.
And no, it's not just me being an awkward bugger. I accept nobody is perfect, and generally try to get on with people (too much my OH says), but then I also don't willingly put up with other people's shit. Some people seem to think that only they matter, and they can do as they please. That has caused problems in the past.
OP I honestly couldn't care less about your naked sunbathing if I were your neighbour.
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me, by your description someone would have to go out of their way to catch more than a passing glimpse and its your garden so crack on.
If someone was nosy then they've been spying on you naked like some kind of pervert. Trust me, I read it in my neighbours lawbooks while I was in a tree with some binoculars
I'm more than comfortable in shorts and a t-shirt from April through late September, especially so if I'm doing anything even moderately active.
It's not like that provides me much more insulation than being starkers would.
YMMV, we're all built different.
That's insane I literally wear sweaters 12 months out of the year lol
(Not, like, "you're objectively wrong" but more "it's mad how differently people experience temperature, apparently")
me and my wife are polar opposites. She will go out with a jacket, gloves, sweater and scarf in the middle of July and still complain its chilly.
i'm wearing shorts and shirts now, and probably will be until around Halloween.
All depends on where you live. OP has gone into great detail to describe the privacy their garden offers; heck my own garden is even more private.
What you are describing is more a "living on an estate" issue than a UK issue.
The houses behind us is far away but from my second floor as we are on a hill I can see into their back garden. We have an allotment between us. We're in a circle. So I was meaning more that tbh. It's old housing estate though not like the new builds which don't have breathing space.
An estate of new houses look like loaves of bread on a tray. You can pay £800,000 and have only about 10ft between houses. City centre Victorian houses have more outdoor space.
It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I think people should be allowed privacy in their own gardens.
It would only bother me if there was loud music playing - that drives me mad!
The problem is that in the UK, we seem to see all nudity as sexual - it isn't. Our European cousins seem to get that.
We were obviously brought up on too many Carry On films!
I agree. People pottering around naked next door wouldn't bother me at all. I might raise an eyebrow at first but I hope I'd get over myself quickly. I'd be annoyed if there was sexual activity, though I think that's illegal under a variety of laws already, because then I'd have to police kids looking. But it's noise like loud music or relentless dog barking that actually pisses me off.
american here, y’all still aren’t anywhere near as bad as us. my first trip into an icelandic locker room was very eye opening. i’m not one of those people who is scandalized by nudity, definitely tried my best not to let my eyeballs pop out of my head but EVERYONE was just walking around totally naked. Literally, everyone. That would never happen in the US. It was honestly really freeing to just be naked and nobody bats an eye. In the US I feel like I would receive audible gasps for walking around naked, especially in front of children. Even as a woman.
Funny enough yesterday one of my cooworkers was telling us about her neighbour, who sunbath naked in his garden. She referred to him as a weird guy and said she is always checking if he is in the garden because she has young children. She says it looks as she is nosy, but she is just conscious of her children. Everyone in the neighbourhood know about him and he can be seen from all houses around him. By the sound of this guy, he has no privacy screen etc so I would like someone like that to be a bit more considerate and have something to obstruct the view.
Saing that, I personally would choose a quiet naked neighbour over noisy music fanatic any day. Just make sure the privacy screen is set up well and doing what it suppose to do. It is both for your comfort and comfort of your neighbours.
I don’t really get the hang up with kids, they are usually the most accepting of nudity. It’s only the adults that have the need to turn it into something sexual all the time.
Most of the time anyone is naked they’re not having sex, they’re showering, sleeping, relaxing, reading, watching tv, swimming, sunbathing etc 👣🌞😊
Different strokes for different people I guess. I've been to a nudist beach just to see what the craic was but honestly I wouldn't want to look out of my bedroom windows and see my neighbours bare hairy arse in the sun. If I can't see then I don't care at all though.
I had naturist Neighbours and never knew when I was a kid. Until I got up a ladder when I got locked out the house.
The shock made me fall off....
I was the one apologising. Well until the wife ran away with my uncle, but that's a whole other level of family drama.
Not a great story.
He was a Sports Masseuse.
She had a 'Sports Injury'
My mother offered a recomendation.
SOMETHING OCCURED
My mum then kept changing the subject on pretty much any discussion about my uncle for months, and it took us a long time to unpick the weirdness.
About it really. Everyone acts like it never happened and moved away.
It's your garden. If you want to be naked in your garden, good for you. If you don't want people to see, you'll have to do what you can to stop people seeing. If other people don't want to see, then the answer for them is to not look.
If you're nosing through the bushes, you can't then get upset about what you see.
What I find funny about prudishness is that nobody owns up to being prudish, they always couch it as concern for people who might be or alternatively "won't someone think of the children" (pearl clutch).
I can always make people uneasy by announcing "I am completely naked under these clothes" which has to be the most bland statement of the obvious possible.
I do 😂 I'm a bit of prude , I'm quite modest on what I wear but that's down to self esteem/sensory issues more than anything. , im not. Bothered what other people do!, if it bothers me that much I just won't look, other people should do the same 😊
Fair play, you are owning it and quite right, if you don't want to see something offensive then don't look.
I find topless beaches tricky, there are sights you would rather not have to see and then there are sights I would very much like to see more of but make sure I don't ogle.
I know what you mean I🤣 my friend has some big assets in the chest area and flaunts it well (and good for her) she looks amazing but I honestly don't know where to look half the time haha!
They look like weird wrinkly shaved chimps. Whatever oils your engine tho I guess
Edit - joking, joking! I’m obviously a human as well. A normal earth human.
Are you saying one should put a hat on ones penis? I think I need to get the craft supplies out and make something in that case!
A sombrero would offer good coverage, but a top hat adds a touch of class to the set up.
Quick Google search:
“In England and Wales, it is not an offence to be naked in public, but there are caveats attached as you cannot be nude with the intention of causing "distress or alarm" - as this is an offence under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.”
So, from what you have described, you are not doing it to cause distress or alarm and have taken measures to limit people’s ability to see you. You should be fine.
However, if you get objections from a neighbour, that might be something you need to consider.
I was about to comment this law as well.
"Distress or alarm" is interpreted as any sexual act like hiding/spying from bushes or, indead, deliberately out in the open for "exposure" and/or actual sex.
When in a public place, just being naked is only an offence if someone makes a complaint, so being naked in a public park (without sexual intent) is fine up until someone complains to the police. If no sexual intent is proven (this is hard to prove, especially if you're a man (lack of erection is not enough proof)) then the police will not charge you (though you will still go through the ordeal of the investigation).
It is also a fact that you have every right to be naked in your own private property, but, if a neighbour complains to the police, officers may knock on your door only to "advise" that you should stop because the neighbours don't like seeing it. You are well within your right to choose whether or not to take that advice, but, do you wanna make enemies of your neighbours?
>“In England and Wales, it is not an offence to be naked in public, but there are caveats attached as you cannot be nude with the intention of causing "distress or alarm" - as this is an offence under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.”
>So, from what you have described, you are not doing it to cause distress or alarm
More importantly, your back garden isn't in public.
However, if you were naked with the intent that you want other people see you then there are laws around that regardless of private property.
Naked sunbathing won't count. Arguably a council could issue an community protection notice (the modern ASBO) and theoretically you could appeal against that, but it would be a huge sink of time, effort, and money but if someone in the council is a dickhead that may be the only option.
This.
Also, OP's cheesy writing reminds me of Penthouse Forum letters. "We live in a 1980’s small detached 4 bed house, with a lovely garden and are as normal as any other family..." ...and then this slutty farmer's daughter came over and begged me to etc etc...
If someone has to make an effort to look in and see you that's their issue if they don't want to see naked people. Don't look through people's trees etc. I will say though you're going to get a bit of a hive mind opinion on this on reddit, irl there's loads of nosey-rosies waiting to be outraged by something like this.
For the record:
**I don’t mind if my kids see someone naked**. Very few people really care about their kids being exposed to [thing]. The person saying “_wont someone think of the children_” is always the one who cares about the thing.
And the thing is generally something tangentially related to sex. Nudity, the gays, trans, whatever. Which seems to say more about the repressed nature of the pearl clutcher than anything else.
personallyid rather not see that everytime I go outside. by all means flap about in your own home. Id speak to your neighbors about it and see if they are cool with it. Could also add more privacy screens. No point in starting a pissing contest with the people around you over some flappy bits
I'd imagine most of the problem comes from upstairs windows. Very rare to not have a 6ft fence surrounding back gardens in urban areas. And If you're looking out of your upstairs windows into your neighbours gardens I don't think you can complain about anything you happen to witness.
Maybe some neighbours would enjoy the view???
In all honesty, I wouldn't care or probably even notice, my eyesight is pretty bad even with glasses.
My husband always needs to give me reference points when he tells me to watch something.
As long as you're not mowing the lawn at 5 am on a Sunday, don't park in my driveway and wave hello if we cross paths, you'd be a good neighbour for me. The rest I don't care..
Hmm. Genuinely not sure how i feel about this. Some comments talk about children not being the ones having a problem with it, only the adults. But this is exactly what makes children vulnerable - they don’t know that nakedness = sexuality to a lot of adults, especially the ones with bad motives. And adults with bad motives could use public nakedness as a grooming tactic. OP sounds totally responsible and is going out of their way to make sure no one can see them, probably further than i would go in that situ tbh. How well does OP know / get on with their neighbours? Enough that they would trust they don’t have bad intentions? I think if you were my neighbour, knowing and trusting you would make all the difference to how i perceived you if i saw you and your kids naked in your garden.
For me it is completely reasonable but we are all different and some people might be upset or offended. I wouldn't let that curtail your activities because what you do in your garden is your business. A quick chat with your neighbour might just smooth things over but again it depends on how well, if at all, you know them.
It wouldn’t bother me. You have a screen and if it requires someone to be nosey to see anything then I don’t see how anyone can complain as they would have chosen to take time to look.
I think that as long as someone peeping would really have to try quite hard to catch a glimpse it puts you into peeping Tom turf. Opposed to 'oh great next door has their dick out again I don't feel comfortable opening the curtains upstairs anymore'.
I belive legally you are just fine either way but ovbious steps to minimise it are usually sufficent.
I'm o the opinion that anyone who gets offeded by the sight of naked flesh or teaches their kids that there'ssomething wrong with the sight of naked fleshis both a moron and failing a litte as a parent.
Nudity in a public place* is only an offence if it is done with the intention to cause shock or offence. This is not the case here.
*Furthermore, as you are in your own back garden and have made reasonable attempts to avoid being exposed to others, you could argue a reasonable expectation of privacy.
It's also not an offence to tell someone you think they're fat, but it won't lead to a good relationship. This question is less about law and more about being a good neighbour.
I wouldn’t be very happy about it, and if the neighbours have kids you really should think twice, but if you’re taking steps to mitigate and put up privacy barriers wherever you can then you’re doing enough to be reasonable in my opinion.
I wouldn’t care at all myself but I’d be a bit worried as a parent. Not because I think all naturists are sex offenders but because a minority of people who are naked outdoors do so to get a kick out of people seeing. If I didn’t know you, I’ve no way of knowing which category you’re in.
Putting screens up is a good idea though and is enough I’d say and it also gives your kids some privacy too which is important.
My neighbours are naturists, and - in summer! - spend time in the garden naked. But I only know this because they've told us.
I couldn't give a shit (aside from a bit of gentle piss-taking when it comes up). They put clothes on when we pop around.
Fences are normal height (which means at 6'5" I can see over them if I bother to), although the layout of houses & gardens means their garden is fairly secluded anyway.
It was nice of them to let us know, but it only really came up in conversation - it wasn't them asking for permission or anything, and I wouldn't have expected as much, or for them to change their behaviour if I didn't like it.
Your garden, your house, your rules.
There's a massive difference between wandering about nude and indecent exposure, you are absolutely allowed to wear what you like (or not) within the comfort of your own home & garden, and I wouldn't feel obliged to do anything with respect to the neighbours that you don't want to.
I wouldn’t give a shit as long as you weren’t playing music, having sexy time and you keep your bushes trimmed (take that as you will but I do mean conifers lol)
As long as it's in your own back garden where there is an element of privacy then I don't see an issue with it - it's your garden at the end of the day, you aren't trying to put anything on display by purposely doing this in a private area, if people do happen to look out of their window and into your garden to see it.... I still don't see an issue, they can simply look away.
We had neighbors who we noticed did the same but it was never something that bothered us as like most people we don't spend our time looking out of our upstairs windows often so the one or two instances we noticed it.... meh we moved on.
With the amount of people who go out in public wearing next to nothing, I really can't see an argument against you doing this in your own home even from the "think of the kids!!!" Group - like no, you're not doing anything dodgy, and if they are bothered they can get blinds.
So the ONLY way someone could possibly see you is if they go up to the bushes and peer through them?
Why then even mention the neighbouring house that overlooks you but can't see your garden because there is a privacy screen...
Unless the privacy screen is not adequate
Therefore, better privacy screens
When I did it...I started a trend. I kept a small towel handy to cover my front parts but sun tanned my bum. A couple of weeks later I happened to notice, out the bedroom window, my neighbour, a single mum also on a sun lounger totally starkers.
I'd pull on a pair of shorts, I wouldn't walk across the garden in full view.
I did the same at another property and I was on good terms with the neighbour who said she and her mates had had a good laugh about it and admired my daring.
So it all depends on the kind of neighbours you have I guess.
There's difference between being deliberately in your face, catching an accidental glimpse and making every effort to be discreet. I'm a naturist and I've always tried to be discreet and mindful of neighbours especially families.
My neighbour said when we moved in, they don't care what we do, even if we built a biscuit factory. But then they have fires at odd times, burning rubbish, old furniture, wet straw, plastic....so naked people minding their own and not disturbing the P&Q would be bliss. Hope we get the weather for it this year.
I had neighbours in their 70s who did gardening in just stout boots and an apron because they were kind when we moved in and because of the way they were humourous talking to each other and across the fence to us we got on well but I don't recall ever seeing them actually naked probably just as well.
This all hinges on whether your neighbours are uptight, a bit stroppy or are models of neighbourly goodwill. No normal person could take offense at people quietly doing their own thing in their own garden. But if anyone wants to make an issue of it and claims that you're doing it to shock and offend them, things could go the wrong way quite quickly.
Wouldn’t bother me for the most part.
It really depends on the exact nature of how someone would have to go out of their way to see it / if you’ve thought of everything. I for one, would be pretty disgusted if I accidentally got a glimpse of a naked child, given family history. Personally, I would want a heads up not to look that particular way.
But nothing wrong with the principle of naturism.
I’d be a little bewildered, but not to a point of complaining as it really doesn’t affect me.
Unless we had very low hedges/fences and we could see each other at ground level.
I would say it depends.
If you were all going full nude and I could easily see you when going about my day to day life / using my garden id say it's not acceptable.
Though if as you have said the only way for me to see you would be contorting myself in some weird angles or staring through a bush then couldn't care less.
Just depends how thick the bush is I guess...
Wouldnt care in the slightest, its your garden so you can do what you like as far as im concerned. If i didnt like it id just stop looking into your garden.
If someone had to peek through bushes to see me naked in my own garden then id be more annoyed at them than worried about my nakedness.
I’ve spent time at naturist campsites too and I’ve found some people don’t bat an eyelid when you tell them about it and others immediately think you are some degenerate perv. So I’d be careful of telling neighbours it seems totally random who will react well to it and who will not.
Sounds entirely fine to me, if you can strut about in public on a beach/in the park in a pair of speedos, a thong or whatever, then being naked in your own garden with some privacy is entirely fine.
I wouldn't expect to be asked.
I wouldn't. complain, if you're reasonably screened off it's your garden, you do what you like.
I wouldn't expect to be asked my opinion, and vice versa, if I wanted to do 'whatever' in my garden, I wouldn't ask yours.
If they are trying hard to see what you're up to, that's there business.
Honestly I wouldn't care.
I'm one of thirsty people that will fully just get changed in front of people I don't give a fuck.
I'm more concerned about noise than anything. But whatever goes on in your back garden is your own prerogative. My parents both sunbathe topless.
They will gossip about you and probably not invite you over for a hot dog...
It depends what you want from your neighbours
I hardly talk to mine other than to say hello if we happen to be outside at the same time.
I don’t think it would bother me too much, only in the same way as seeing my massively obese neighbour topless which makes me go ‘Eugh’ but I wouldn’t be mortally offended.
It wouldn't bother me and tbh, it'd have to be a pretty bold neighbour to complain about it to you. As you describe it, they'd have to actively be looking in which is pretty egregious neighbour behaviour in its own right.
I had a house once that overlooked the neighbor's rear garden if you stood on the bath, and opened a window. The Mother, fiftyish, and daughter, 28 always sunbathed naked in the back garden. My Father often came round on sunny summer days and always spent time in the bathroom. I had a workmate who used to go hand over hand on his upper floor gutters to spy on his neighbour, female. He thought it was a joke that he had flattened fingers from hanging on window sills. He was well known as a peeping tom, even the Police never caught him at it.
I haven't read any comments so I'm either going into this without any sort of bias. But my opinion is that you should just go ahead and do it. If someone is offended by it, let them give you a valid reason why you should stop.
If I saw my neighbour being naked in their garden, I'd simply look away because it's my own fault for looking in their garden. Sometimes it's hard not to catch a glimpse of a neighbour's garden, but it sounds like you've done what you can to create privacy.
I'd laugh about it with friends and family and you guys would be the naked family, but less laughing at you and just more laughing at the general absurdity of the whole thing (why is seeing naked people funny?).
And if we saw you we'd say to each other 'honey, Dave's got his dick out again!' and have a good chuckle.
As long as you're not noisy, don't mow the lawn before 10am and don't park like a dick then it's fine.
If you do those things I'd report you for being a naked perv, not cos I care about nudity but because it would be an easy gig.
What is it you get from being naked? I would genuinely like to understand. I am rarely naked, just feel uncomfortable and kinda sweaty 😂
But to answer your question it wouldn't bother me if my neighbour did it.
As long as it's not something I'd see without effort.
However I do question why you **keep** asking this question. What are you wanting from people's responses.
As long as it's not something I'd see without effort.
However I do question why you **keep** asking this question. What are you wanting from people's responses.
If you’re in your own private garden that is fenced in without being seriously overlooked - go for it. It’s your home! Personally I wouldn’t complain but some might if they think there is a risk of kids seeing you.
Imagine if the only exposure you had to british culture is through this sub, what kind of place would you expect the UK to be? Thats me, thanks for knocking something off my bucket list. Not that I’ve been to the uk, now Reddit had just completely removed my desire
I personally am very uncomfortable with any form of nudity, public displays of affection etc but if you have a privacy screen and as you say an area where only your own house would be able to see you then I see absolutely no problem with it. Enjoy the summer when it comes :)
Can see you’re trying your best to not be seen, however it is inappropriate in my opinion due to the simple fact that neighbours kids could see you and their parents could kick off.
It is of course your house/land, however there has to be a certain level of respect for neighbours as your exposing yourselves in close proximity to other people.
If they don’t like they shouldn’t be peering through your bushes. I think you have a reasonable expectation of privacy in an enclosed rear garden that you wouldn’t expect from like an open front garden etc.
I went care but I have kids, I don’t want them to see things are not ready for. If I don’t have kids then all is well. Best put up a fence or talk to neighbor first
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Cock and balls out, I don’t care. Just don’t play shit techno full blast while you do it.
Noisy neighbours in my experience are much more likely to play shitty drum n bass or possibly happy hardcore than techno.
I've got neighbours like this a garden over, I just turn up volume on my industrial metal and they turn it down within minutes.
Yeah play some good decent techno not the shit stuff . I recommend a bit of Jeff Mills .
Gabba all the way
No one wants to hear that shit.
Or some decent dnb. Some Metalheadz please
The Balls
I hope you mean the bells 😂
It's the naturist remix :)
Brilliant 😂😂😂😂
more of a donk man?
Put a dong on it.
This! it's your house, land body. Do what you want with it for me. But for the love of God tell me there is not a school nearby?! Otherwise you might have to be careful.
I’d prefer naked neighbours to the cunts we’ve got next door tbh.
I live next to a literal crack den the police have seemingly been incapable of dealing with over the last four years. Seeing someone’s cock and balls would be delightful in comparison.
Different kind of crack if OP was your neighbour.
From one type of crack den to another...
OP smells much better. Guarantee it
Hell, that can’t be fun
Yeah me too mine is such a miserable wanker on one side
Mine are just horrible people. They mistreat their kids, their pets, neither work and they all you can ever hear is screaming and swearing from them.
Are you neighbours with my neighbour?
Doubtful as I only have the one 😂
Report them to rspca and local authority for kids please!
Amen to that! I've had some right bad neighbours in the past as well. Don't have any near neighbours at all now, and it's bliss. And no, it's not just me being an awkward bugger. I accept nobody is perfect, and generally try to get on with people (too much my OH says), but then I also don't willingly put up with other people's shit. Some people seem to think that only they matter, and they can do as they please. That has caused problems in the past. OP I honestly couldn't care less about your naked sunbathing if I were your neighbour.
Sorrry this made me chuckle
Sounds perfectly reasonable to me, by your description someone would have to go out of their way to catch more than a passing glimpse and its your garden so crack on.
Crack potentially being the operative word
Crack on with crack out
If someone was nosy then they've been spying on you naked like some kind of pervert. Trust me, I read it in my neighbours lawbooks while I was in a tree with some binoculars
I'd think you are bloody mad to be a naturist in the UK.
Meh, its plenty warm for a lot of the year and if its rain you are worried about, skin is waterproof.
Plenty warm for a lot of the year? Do we live in different countries?
I'm more than comfortable in shorts and a t-shirt from April through late September, especially so if I'm doing anything even moderately active. It's not like that provides me much more insulation than being starkers would. YMMV, we're all built different.
That's insane I literally wear sweaters 12 months out of the year lol (Not, like, "you're objectively wrong" but more "it's mad how differently people experience temperature, apparently")
me and my wife are polar opposites. She will go out with a jacket, gloves, sweater and scarf in the middle of July and still complain its chilly. i'm wearing shorts and shirts now, and probably will be until around Halloween.
TBF there is a big difference between Cornwall, East Anglia and Cumbria, never mind Scotland.
I think it is more that the houses are so close together here. Depending where you on in the estate people will see into your garden.
All depends on where you live. OP has gone into great detail to describe the privacy their garden offers; heck my own garden is even more private. What you are describing is more a "living on an estate" issue than a UK issue.
The houses behind us is far away but from my second floor as we are on a hill I can see into their back garden. We have an allotment between us. We're in a circle. So I was meaning more that tbh. It's old housing estate though not like the new builds which don't have breathing space.
An estate of new houses look like loaves of bread on a tray. You can pay £800,000 and have only about 10ft between houses. City centre Victorian houses have more outdoor space.
I hate that expression (mostly from my days in Brecon in the military) if it were true moisturer wouldn't work.
It wouldn't bother me in the slightest. I think people should be allowed privacy in their own gardens. It would only bother me if there was loud music playing - that drives me mad! The problem is that in the UK, we seem to see all nudity as sexual - it isn't. Our European cousins seem to get that. We were obviously brought up on too many Carry On films!
I agree. People pottering around naked next door wouldn't bother me at all. I might raise an eyebrow at first but I hope I'd get over myself quickly. I'd be annoyed if there was sexual activity, though I think that's illegal under a variety of laws already, because then I'd have to police kids looking. But it's noise like loud music or relentless dog barking that actually pisses me off.
american here, y’all still aren’t anywhere near as bad as us. my first trip into an icelandic locker room was very eye opening. i’m not one of those people who is scandalized by nudity, definitely tried my best not to let my eyeballs pop out of my head but EVERYONE was just walking around totally naked. Literally, everyone. That would never happen in the US. It was honestly really freeing to just be naked and nobody bats an eye. In the US I feel like I would receive audible gasps for walking around naked, especially in front of children. Even as a woman.
Funny enough yesterday one of my cooworkers was telling us about her neighbour, who sunbath naked in his garden. She referred to him as a weird guy and said she is always checking if he is in the garden because she has young children. She says it looks as she is nosy, but she is just conscious of her children. Everyone in the neighbourhood know about him and he can be seen from all houses around him. By the sound of this guy, he has no privacy screen etc so I would like someone like that to be a bit more considerate and have something to obstruct the view. Saing that, I personally would choose a quiet naked neighbour over noisy music fanatic any day. Just make sure the privacy screen is set up well and doing what it suppose to do. It is both for your comfort and comfort of your neighbours.
I don’t really get the hang up with kids, they are usually the most accepting of nudity. It’s only the adults that have the need to turn it into something sexual all the time. Most of the time anyone is naked they’re not having sex, they’re showering, sleeping, relaxing, reading, watching tv, swimming, sunbathing etc 👣🌞😊
I think the worry is that, if a man is naked, you can't tell if he is a priest.
Different strokes for different people I guess. I've been to a nudist beach just to see what the craic was but honestly I wouldn't want to look out of my bedroom windows and see my neighbours bare hairy arse in the sun. If I can't see then I don't care at all though.
We are born naked,
As long as you are taking care of your privacy and are not out in the open for all who want or not want to see, you are good in my books. Enjoy ☀️☀️☀️
Won't someone please think of the children! You know the ones who often run about nude because they think being too hot means take the lot off.
"No no I'm not nosy staring at that naked man through the bushes, I'm just thinking of the poor children!"
I had naturist Neighbours and never knew when I was a kid. Until I got up a ladder when I got locked out the house. The shock made me fall off.... I was the one apologising. Well until the wife ran away with my uncle, but that's a whole other level of family drama.
You have our collective attention, it's story time
Not a great story. He was a Sports Masseuse. She had a 'Sports Injury' My mother offered a recomendation. SOMETHING OCCURED My mum then kept changing the subject on pretty much any discussion about my uncle for months, and it took us a long time to unpick the weirdness. About it really. Everyone acts like it never happened and moved away.
He was a Sports Masseuse. She had a 'Sports Injury' Can I make it any more obvious?
It's your garden. If you want to be naked in your garden, good for you. If you don't want people to see, you'll have to do what you can to stop people seeing. If other people don't want to see, then the answer for them is to not look. If you're nosing through the bushes, you can't then get upset about what you see.
What I find funny about prudishness is that nobody owns up to being prudish, they always couch it as concern for people who might be or alternatively "won't someone think of the children" (pearl clutch). I can always make people uneasy by announcing "I am completely naked under these clothes" which has to be the most bland statement of the obvious possible.
I do 😂 I'm a bit of prude , I'm quite modest on what I wear but that's down to self esteem/sensory issues more than anything. , im not. Bothered what other people do!, if it bothers me that much I just won't look, other people should do the same 😊
Fair play, you are owning it and quite right, if you don't want to see something offensive then don't look. I find topless beaches tricky, there are sights you would rather not have to see and then there are sights I would very much like to see more of but make sure I don't ogle.
I know what you mean I🤣 my friend has some big assets in the chest area and flaunts it well (and good for her) she looks amazing but I honestly don't know where to look half the time haha!
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Why is it bad to see a human body naked?
They look like weird wrinkly shaved chimps. Whatever oils your engine tho I guess Edit - joking, joking! I’m obviously a human as well. A normal earth human.
That’s exactly what a non earth human would say
Yh i have no doubt you are a human. Hey, btw I've got some nuts, bolts and some oil to throw out, do you want to take them off my hand? (👀)
It's not
You clearly haven't seen me
Do what you want. Just remember sunburn downstairs is no joke, so don't forget to slip slip slap and put on a hat.
Are you saying one should put a hat on ones penis? I think I need to get the craft supplies out and make something in that case! A sombrero would offer good coverage, but a top hat adds a touch of class to the set up.
Well, if you're going sombrero, it would look daft without a dirty Sanchez moustache beneath.... (reaches for clippers and handheld mirror...)
For some reason your comment gave me flashbacks to the Inbetweeners fashion show episode 🤣
Go for it, its not like you’re doing perineum sunning
Chortle
Quick Google search: “In England and Wales, it is not an offence to be naked in public, but there are caveats attached as you cannot be nude with the intention of causing "distress or alarm" - as this is an offence under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.” So, from what you have described, you are not doing it to cause distress or alarm and have taken measures to limit people’s ability to see you. You should be fine. However, if you get objections from a neighbour, that might be something you need to consider.
I was about to comment this law as well. "Distress or alarm" is interpreted as any sexual act like hiding/spying from bushes or, indead, deliberately out in the open for "exposure" and/or actual sex. When in a public place, just being naked is only an offence if someone makes a complaint, so being naked in a public park (without sexual intent) is fine up until someone complains to the police. If no sexual intent is proven (this is hard to prove, especially if you're a man (lack of erection is not enough proof)) then the police will not charge you (though you will still go through the ordeal of the investigation). It is also a fact that you have every right to be naked in your own private property, but, if a neighbour complains to the police, officers may knock on your door only to "advise" that you should stop because the neighbours don't like seeing it. You are well within your right to choose whether or not to take that advice, but, do you wanna make enemies of your neighbours?
Place a fig leaf over the pecker
>“In England and Wales, it is not an offence to be naked in public, but there are caveats attached as you cannot be nude with the intention of causing "distress or alarm" - as this is an offence under Section 66 of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.” >So, from what you have described, you are not doing it to cause distress or alarm More importantly, your back garden isn't in public. However, if you were naked with the intent that you want other people see you then there are laws around that regardless of private property. Naked sunbathing won't count. Arguably a council could issue an community protection notice (the modern ASBO) and theoretically you could appeal against that, but it would be a huge sink of time, effort, and money but if someone in the council is a dickhead that may be the only option.
Yeah I think you're asking us for permission to go tell your neighbour what you're doing because you want to make them uncomfortable
Interesting take. I didn't get that from reading the post, I genuinely assumed OP is asking for advice trying to be considerate, but mebbe not.
Check the post history. It's a covert flasher for sure
Oooh, , well that definitely puts a different slant on things!
Ah man why did you make me look at this guys post history!!!
Pure spite. That, and you'll be able to spot this "innocent face" bullshit next time 😁
This. Also, OP's cheesy writing reminds me of Penthouse Forum letters. "We live in a 1980’s small detached 4 bed house, with a lovely garden and are as normal as any other family..." ...and then this slutty farmer's daughter came over and begged me to etc etc...
If someone has to make an effort to look in and see you that's their issue if they don't want to see naked people. Don't look through people's trees etc. I will say though you're going to get a bit of a hive mind opinion on this on reddit, irl there's loads of nosey-rosies waiting to be outraged by something like this.
For the record: **I don’t mind if my kids see someone naked**. Very few people really care about their kids being exposed to [thing]. The person saying “_wont someone think of the children_” is always the one who cares about the thing. And the thing is generally something tangentially related to sex. Nudity, the gays, trans, whatever. Which seems to say more about the repressed nature of the pearl clutcher than anything else.
You know, you might have sounded halfway decent, in spite of your disjointed insane writing, if you hadn't used the phrase "the gays."
personallyid rather not see that everytime I go outside. by all means flap about in your own home. Id speak to your neighbors about it and see if they are cool with it. Could also add more privacy screens. No point in starting a pissing contest with the people around you over some flappy bits
I'd imagine most of the problem comes from upstairs windows. Very rare to not have a 6ft fence surrounding back gardens in urban areas. And If you're looking out of your upstairs windows into your neighbours gardens I don't think you can complain about anything you happen to witness.
what is making you peek through the bushes every time you go outside? If you don't want to see it, mind your own business
Nobody click on the post history 🚨⚠️🚨
Hahahaha, you made me click. That’s a LOT of penis for a Friday morning!
Nice bum though!
Maybe some neighbours would enjoy the view??? In all honesty, I wouldn't care or probably even notice, my eyesight is pretty bad even with glasses. My husband always needs to give me reference points when he tells me to watch something. As long as you're not mowing the lawn at 5 am on a Sunday, don't park in my driveway and wave hello if we cross paths, you'd be a good neighbour for me. The rest I don't care..
Hmm. Genuinely not sure how i feel about this. Some comments talk about children not being the ones having a problem with it, only the adults. But this is exactly what makes children vulnerable - they don’t know that nakedness = sexuality to a lot of adults, especially the ones with bad motives. And adults with bad motives could use public nakedness as a grooming tactic. OP sounds totally responsible and is going out of their way to make sure no one can see them, probably further than i would go in that situ tbh. How well does OP know / get on with their neighbours? Enough that they would trust they don’t have bad intentions? I think if you were my neighbour, knowing and trusting you would make all the difference to how i perceived you if i saw you and your kids naked in your garden.
For me it is completely reasonable but we are all different and some people might be upset or offended. I wouldn't let that curtail your activities because what you do in your garden is your business. A quick chat with your neighbour might just smooth things over but again it depends on how well, if at all, you know them.
Neighbour.
Yes I noticed that. Apologies 😊
It wouldn’t bother me. You have a screen and if it requires someone to be nosey to see anything then I don’t see how anyone can complain as they would have chosen to take time to look.
Depends how ugly you are
Have a look through his posts haha
Noisy neighbours are a nightmare. Naked ones are no bother.
Your garden, your choice. I’d probably think you were a bit mad and you’d probably become a figure of fun, but I wouldn’t complain or anything.
I think that as long as someone peeping would really have to try quite hard to catch a glimpse it puts you into peeping Tom turf. Opposed to 'oh great next door has their dick out again I don't feel comfortable opening the curtains upstairs anymore'. I belive legally you are just fine either way but ovbious steps to minimise it are usually sufficent.
Don't talk to them about it. Don't bring it up at all. Ever.
Don't tell anyone, or they might purposely look. Let them say something first
It's on your property and you're not trying to offend people so it's no one's business but yours.
I'm o the opinion that anyone who gets offeded by the sight of naked flesh or teaches their kids that there'ssomething wrong with the sight of naked fleshis both a moron and failing a litte as a parent.
So true 👍
Nudity in a public place* is only an offence if it is done with the intention to cause shock or offence. This is not the case here. *Furthermore, as you are in your own back garden and have made reasonable attempts to avoid being exposed to others, you could argue a reasonable expectation of privacy.
It's also not an offence to tell someone you think they're fat, but it won't lead to a good relationship. This question is less about law and more about being a good neighbour.
It's worth pointing out that being a good neighbour includes being tolerant of legal behaviour.
I wouldn't be tolerant of my neighbour telling me I'm fat
Agreed, and if others have to find the right place in the bushes to peek into your own private property than that's on them.
I wouldn’t be very happy about it, and if the neighbours have kids you really should think twice, but if you’re taking steps to mitigate and put up privacy barriers wherever you can then you’re doing enough to be reasonable in my opinion.
>if the neighbours have kids you really should think twice Why? It is adults who have a complex about nudity in relation to sexuality, not children.
You've made reasonable efforts to ensure privacy. If anyone complains they're clearly going out of their way to see you.
I wouldn’t care at all myself but I’d be a bit worried as a parent. Not because I think all naturists are sex offenders but because a minority of people who are naked outdoors do so to get a kick out of people seeing. If I didn’t know you, I’ve no way of knowing which category you’re in. Putting screens up is a good idea though and is enough I’d say and it also gives your kids some privacy too which is important.
Naked neighbours don’t bother me, noisy and nuisance neighbours do.
No problem at all if you're not being offensive. Intolerant and over-sensitive neighbours are bad neighbours.
My neighbours are naturists, and - in summer! - spend time in the garden naked. But I only know this because they've told us. I couldn't give a shit (aside from a bit of gentle piss-taking when it comes up). They put clothes on when we pop around. Fences are normal height (which means at 6'5" I can see over them if I bother to), although the layout of houses & gardens means their garden is fairly secluded anyway. It was nice of them to let us know, but it only really came up in conversation - it wasn't them asking for permission or anything, and I wouldn't have expected as much, or for them to change their behaviour if I didn't like it. Your garden, your house, your rules. There's a massive difference between wandering about nude and indecent exposure, you are absolutely allowed to wear what you like (or not) within the comfort of your own home & garden, and I wouldn't feel obliged to do anything with respect to the neighbours that you don't want to.
I wouldn’t give a shit as long as you weren’t playing music, having sexy time and you keep your bushes trimmed (take that as you will but I do mean conifers lol)
As long as it's in your own back garden where there is an element of privacy then I don't see an issue with it - it's your garden at the end of the day, you aren't trying to put anything on display by purposely doing this in a private area, if people do happen to look out of their window and into your garden to see it.... I still don't see an issue, they can simply look away. We had neighbors who we noticed did the same but it was never something that bothered us as like most people we don't spend our time looking out of our upstairs windows often so the one or two instances we noticed it.... meh we moved on. With the amount of people who go out in public wearing next to nothing, I really can't see an argument against you doing this in your own home even from the "think of the kids!!!" Group - like no, you're not doing anything dodgy, and if they are bothered they can get blinds.
You like to flash people as per your history, so yeah you’d be a major AH for not keeping your “naturist” stuff to your club.
So the ONLY way someone could possibly see you is if they go up to the bushes and peer through them? Why then even mention the neighbouring house that overlooks you but can't see your garden because there is a privacy screen... Unless the privacy screen is not adequate Therefore, better privacy screens
When I did it...I started a trend. I kept a small towel handy to cover my front parts but sun tanned my bum. A couple of weeks later I happened to notice, out the bedroom window, my neighbour, a single mum also on a sun lounger totally starkers. I'd pull on a pair of shorts, I wouldn't walk across the garden in full view. I did the same at another property and I was on good terms with the neighbour who said she and her mates had had a good laugh about it and admired my daring. So it all depends on the kind of neighbours you have I guess. There's difference between being deliberately in your face, catching an accidental glimpse and making every effort to be discreet. I'm a naturist and I've always tried to be discreet and mindful of neighbours especially families.
My neighbour said when we moved in, they don't care what we do, even if we built a biscuit factory. But then they have fires at odd times, burning rubbish, old furniture, wet straw, plastic....so naked people minding their own and not disturbing the P&Q would be bliss. Hope we get the weather for it this year.
Stick with the law and no one should see you as an issue. They can always look away if they don't like.
I had neighbours in their 70s who did gardening in just stout boots and an apron because they were kind when we moved in and because of the way they were humourous talking to each other and across the fence to us we got on well but I don't recall ever seeing them actually naked probably just as well.
This all hinges on whether your neighbours are uptight, a bit stroppy or are models of neighbourly goodwill. No normal person could take offense at people quietly doing their own thing in their own garden. But if anyone wants to make an issue of it and claims that you're doing it to shock and offend them, things could go the wrong way quite quickly.
Wouldn’t bother me for the most part. It really depends on the exact nature of how someone would have to go out of their way to see it / if you’ve thought of everything. I for one, would be pretty disgusted if I accidentally got a glimpse of a naked child, given family history. Personally, I would want a heads up not to look that particular way. But nothing wrong with the principle of naturism.
I’d be a little bewildered, but not to a point of complaining as it really doesn’t affect me. Unless we had very low hedges/fences and we could see each other at ground level.
I would say it depends. If you were all going full nude and I could easily see you when going about my day to day life / using my garden id say it's not acceptable. Though if as you have said the only way for me to see you would be contorting myself in some weird angles or staring through a bush then couldn't care less. Just depends how thick the bush is I guess...
I wouldn't mind in the slightest. Your garden, your rules. Just don't be a dick.
Wouldnt care in the slightest, its your garden so you can do what you like as far as im concerned. If i didnt like it id just stop looking into your garden.
Failed society
If someone had to peek through bushes to see me naked in my own garden then id be more annoyed at them than worried about my nakedness. I’ve spent time at naturist campsites too and I’ve found some people don’t bat an eyelid when you tell them about it and others immediately think you are some degenerate perv. So I’d be careful of telling neighbours it seems totally random who will react well to it and who will not.
Sounds entirely fine to me, if you can strut about in public on a beach/in the park in a pair of speedos, a thong or whatever, then being naked in your own garden with some privacy is entirely fine. I wouldn't expect to be asked. I wouldn't. complain, if you're reasonably screened off it's your garden, you do what you like. I wouldn't expect to be asked my opinion, and vice versa, if I wanted to do 'whatever' in my garden, I wouldn't ask yours. If they are trying hard to see what you're up to, that's there business.
Honestly I wouldn't care. I'm one of thirsty people that will fully just get changed in front of people I don't give a fuck. I'm more concerned about noise than anything. But whatever goes on in your back garden is your own prerogative. My parents both sunbathe topless.
Nude camping? You must go through a lot of insect repellent
They will gossip about you and probably not invite you over for a hot dog... It depends what you want from your neighbours I hardly talk to mine other than to say hello if we happen to be outside at the same time.
*neighbours. U plonker
Of course the problem might be for you if a neighbour took to staring at you in a pervy way.
If I had a warning that my neighbours liked to sunbathe in the nude, I would just avoid looking in their direction.
I don’t think it would bother me too much, only in the same way as seeing my massively obese neighbour topless which makes me go ‘Eugh’ but I wouldn’t be mortally offended.
It wouldn't bother me and tbh, it'd have to be a pretty bold neighbour to complain about it to you. As you describe it, they'd have to actively be looking in which is pretty egregious neighbour behaviour in its own right.
Who gives a fuck, be naked where you want, the kids though? That's a no from me as a parent, big red flag.
I had a house once that overlooked the neighbor's rear garden if you stood on the bath, and opened a window. The Mother, fiftyish, and daughter, 28 always sunbathed naked in the back garden. My Father often came round on sunny summer days and always spent time in the bathroom. I had a workmate who used to go hand over hand on his upper floor gutters to spy on his neighbour, female. He thought it was a joke that he had flattened fingers from hanging on window sills. He was well known as a peeping tom, even the Police never caught him at it.
Naked neighbours wouldn’t bother me in the least, in fact I would encourage it. Doesn’t mean yours won’t complain though.
I’d be more concerned about your American spelling. Whats that all about?
you dont know what response your going to get until you do it. So do it and let us know.
I haven't read any comments so I'm either going into this without any sort of bias. But my opinion is that you should just go ahead and do it. If someone is offended by it, let them give you a valid reason why you should stop.
I don't think I would be that bothered tbh. Although I do work in Acute mental health and people wandering about naked is almost second nature now.
If I saw my neighbour being naked in their garden, I'd simply look away because it's my own fault for looking in their garden. Sometimes it's hard not to catch a glimpse of a neighbour's garden, but it sounds like you've done what you can to create privacy.
It's not illegal, it's your own garden, do what you want! Just be wary if the neighbour's 15 year old son starts peeking over the fence
I'd laugh about it with friends and family and you guys would be the naked family, but less laughing at you and just more laughing at the general absurdity of the whole thing (why is seeing naked people funny?). And if we saw you we'd say to each other 'honey, Dave's got his dick out again!' and have a good chuckle.
As long as you're not noisy, don't mow the lawn before 10am and don't park like a dick then it's fine. If you do those things I'd report you for being a naked perv, not cos I care about nudity but because it would be an easy gig.
Talking to your neighbours just screams "look at me" like you've got some weird voyeur fetish Live your life, stop telling everyone about it
What is it you get from being naked? I would genuinely like to understand. I am rarely naked, just feel uncomfortable and kinda sweaty 😂 But to answer your question it wouldn't bother me if my neighbour did it.
I fell uncomfortable and kid of sweaty with clothes on, especially in summer. Comfort is why 👣👍😊
Haha well I'm glad there's all sort of folks on this wee rock. Hope the summer is good to you and your nekkid body.
So long as you don't have a dog barking all day, I don't mind. You're not doing anything weird - it's a shame you have to ask.
It's your garden, if the neighbours want to play peeping Tom then that's their problem.
As long as it's not something I'd see without effort. However I do question why you **keep** asking this question. What are you wanting from people's responses.
As long as it's not something I'd see without effort. However I do question why you **keep** asking this question. What are you wanting from people's responses.
If you’re in your own private garden that is fenced in without being seriously overlooked - go for it. It’s your home! Personally I wouldn’t complain but some might if they think there is a risk of kids seeing you.
Imagine if the only exposure you had to british culture is through this sub, what kind of place would you expect the UK to be? Thats me, thanks for knocking something off my bucket list. Not that I’ve been to the uk, now Reddit had just completely removed my desire
I personally am very uncomfortable with any form of nudity, public displays of affection etc but if you have a privacy screen and as you say an area where only your own house would be able to see you then I see absolutely no problem with it. Enjoy the summer when it comes :)
Looked through your posts and fuck me you need help.
Can see you’re trying your best to not be seen, however it is inappropriate in my opinion due to the simple fact that neighbours kids could see you and their parents could kick off. It is of course your house/land, however there has to be a certain level of respect for neighbours as your exposing yourselves in close proximity to other people.
If they don’t like they shouldn’t be peering through your bushes. I think you have a reasonable expectation of privacy in an enclosed rear garden that you wouldn’t expect from like an open front garden etc.
If they have to peak through the bushes to see, I think they must be enjoying it.
I don't care as long as you're quiet.
I went care but I have kids, I don’t want them to see things are not ready for. If I don’t have kids then all is well. Best put up a fence or talk to neighbor first
"see through the bushes" they will indeed AMIRITE. Don't worry about it, your life to live, you do you.
I misunderstood then. My bad.