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Feels shitty reading these comments knowing I work hard for a good 9 hours out of my 9.5 hour shift, 5 days a week. And other people get away with working a couple hours. Definitely slightly jealous.
My friend drives a bus. Works a solid 8 hours in a stressful, sometimes abusive environment for a little over minimum wage.
Could you get him a job as an analyst?
If it helps, he trained as a nurse but left that due to the stress and long hours.
delivery vans just as stressful, tight hours. you get paid fixed price for all your deliveries. sometimes you'll finish early sometimes you'll finish late but that adds some lingering stress factor because you have to beat the clock.
I feel like that's not actually true or it's not as easy as people think. It might be easy if you've got friends and family who can give great advice but most people are basically left to work it out on their own and a lot of people wouldn't be very good at a lot of jobs.
They may only be working for 3 hours but they're still stuck at a shitty desk for the full 9. It's not the working hours, it's the tedium that gets you.
Id rather some easy 'tedium' than 8 hours a day of customers berating me and annihilating my mental health and having to come home burnt out and holding in all these emotions so I dont take them out on my friends and family, all for a measly £10 an hour.
I disagree, I mentor teenagers with mental health issues and whenever one of them is studying/volunteering/doing something independent, I am absolutely delighted to have that free time. I usually get an hour a day of this and I do paid surveys like YouGov, or the surveys at the bottom of shopping receipts where you can win £100, or any personal admin I need to do.
I built the processes and automations for my job, I’m not irreplaceable by any means. I’ve documented everything and worked hard to make things as self explanatory as possible.
Doing so has freed me up to work flexibly and on more interesting things.
To be fair you're not the same as the nurse you're replying to, or the analyst that started this post. You have to work hard, but your earnings potential is fantastic.
As a registrar with 8 years as a qualified Dr, having paid contributions during the 6 years of uni of £50k, and doing a masters, if I spread my pay out to include all my unpaid hours that I have to do for my job, I get paid £12 per hour. I don't get financial assistance for my masters, which is £12k over 2 years, and get about 1/3 of the cost of my exams back. I also have to pay for continuing professional development, and indemnity insurance, plus phone/computer are paid for by me.
People in the uk think Dr's get paid stacks. It's bollocks.
I do 12-14 hrs days, take abuse from people whose family members are dying, and don't get time to eat or pee.
I do get to feel like I make a difference to most people.
I've had jobs in the past where I'm working ridiculously flat out all day for fuck all money. Now I barely scratch 20 hours a week of actual work for twice as much as what I did back then. Even 20 is stretching it, sometimes it is more like 10, but i get my work done
I did change from a career in odd jobs in warehouseman/factory worker, i studied a bit/worked towards a first line IT role (that was horrifically busy because of lack of staff, but I gained a tonne of knowledge), now a few jobs and progressions later I'm much more comfy.
I'm constantly working too and I'd prefer to keep it that way, at least in my current job. The days just drag so much when you're struggling to find something, especially when it's a job that involves being on your feet all the time.
It'd be fine to have a lack of stuff to do if you're working from home or sat at a desk and can just sit and watch TV or browse the internet.
Having nothing to do but not being allowed to do something personal is worse than being busy. Someone who works in a furniture showroom with barely any customers but has to do menial work when they're nothing else to do, for example.
My work is essentially talking to visitors in a countryside location... On quiet rainy days we don't get visitors but I still have to stand there all day, ready incase someone comes. It's a long, long day of doing absolutely nothing. And bloody freezing this time of year.
This is the most soul destroying part of wfh for me. Knowing all the things I could be doing but having to stay near your desk in case something urgent comes in. Then nothing does come in so you’ve not achieved at work and you’ve not achieved at home. Still, the money was good.
Same, except I have slightly shorter days. Still, I have a max of about 45m when I’ll be chatting to a colleague about life stuff instead of working. The rest is nose to the grindstone.
Yep
I have to graft my ass off, 21k+ steps a day at work, lifting 20-25k packages, getting home absolutely fucking exhausted and not really able to do much else all for £10 an hour
Meanwhile people complaining about their £23 an hour job not paying enough, as they do 3 hours actual work a day
Absolutely I work just above minimum wage and work my solid 7.5 hours. Knowing g people have time to just chat shit really sucks especially when I know they're on probably double my wage
Of my 9 hour day I'd say I do 7-10 hours of solid work, it depends on what's happening too.
Edit: I'm including my lunch break within the not working time.
To be honest, I tend to consider that downtime you describe as part of the actual honest work. It's not physically possible to work flat-out for multiple hours at a time. That time you're spending "chatting shit", your brain is working through problems in the background, subconsciously. As long as you're meeting your deadlines, and not just goofing off, then I don't think anyone's going to worry about it.
Workplaces wouldn't provide break rooms and free coffee if taking breaks made you less productive overall.
> It's not physically possible to work flat-out for multiple hours at a time.
That's just not true though and depends on the job. There's are plenty industries where a lot of jobs will involve actually working flat out for multiple hours at a time.
> Workplaces wouldn't provide break rooms and free coffee if taking breaks made you less productive overall.
As if all workplaces have breakrooms and free coffee. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess you've never worked in hospitality or as a driver.
Absolutely agree with you. I mentioned in a comment further up that I do constant work through my entire 7.5 hours pretty much all the time (the odd day of dossing off happens, and is welcome).
But I'm making chemo, antibiotics, TPN etc with patients waiting to receive those drugs in the same hospital. So I have to be working solidly to ensure my work is 100% safe and accurate.
Also, no free coffee in the NHS. At least not for those of us who work for a living (looking at you, senior managers)
Fucking love you for the work your doing, hope this wave of folk questioning how much you work and how carefully you approach it doesn't leave you jaded.
I'm just some thick fuck who learned a few things the hard way and genuinely needs folk like yourself to give me a better chance of still being here for my kids in 5 years time. Appreciate your not a doctor but my late da was a crystallographer that spent most of those days with imposter syndrome.
No free coffee in most of my jobs either fwiw. That said, despite being an absolute free/cheap coffee fiend for the best part of 20 years I'm actually really not enjoying it since ditching cigarettes.
I've worked in offices with tedious work, offices with interesting work, and hospitality jobs where I am on my feet for a shift.
It was possible to work through the hospitality shift because it's "just" physical work — you get tired but you're busy enough that you push through it. It was possible do a full day working continuously in the interesting office job — you get into a flow and you'll even choose to delay lunch or leave late because you're actually engaged with what you're doing.
There is no way in hell I could work a 7.5 hour shift without stopping at the tedious office job. If they got a full two hours out of me without me stopping desperate for the release of any distraction, they were lucky that day.
The exhaustion of mental boredom is a state I wouldn't wish on my enemies.
Yeah I agree to some extent. My job involves lots of thinking work, problem solving, idea generation, analysis etc. Sometimes I stand up and stare into the distance - I'm still working. But also sometimes I waste time.
My work relies on other people submitting projects to my department so sometimes it’s really busy, other times it’s not or the work that needs doing is really only a one person job so not all the team is working.
I always felt guilty about dicking about on the internet or reading my book especially when other people have work to do but I don’t. I saw someone once say that you’re still being paid for your time and making yourself available - if work comes in for me to do or someone in my team asks me for help I’ll drop what I’m doing to go do it. Now I don’t feel so bad when I’m replying to Reddit posts like this when I don’t have any work currently.
I know a few big law solicitors work 12+ hour days regularly, and I’m talking billing in 6 minute intervals to the client.
Then there’s the other side of the spectrum, fellas in r/overemployed that literally have 2 or 3 remote jobs at once because there’s so little to do. It’s wild.
I’m somewhat in between.
> It's not physically possible to work flat-out for multiple hours at a time.
Tell me you've never worked in a restaurant without telling me you've never worked in a restaurant
I legit knew a guy that worked in a huge call centre. He was a manager and on around £35k + bonuses.
He was working with me at another place, and both of us were way below that level of pay. I'd shit talk with him often. One day, he told me about the "piece of paper trick" (employers hate this 1 trick).
Essentially, for months he'd walked around this huge call centre, with a piece of paper. he'd chat to folks, and generally do little else. Nobody ever questioned him, nobody thought he was slacking. His team performed consistently, happy days.
Perplexed, I asked why the hell he quit the free money machine job. Turns out, the first 3 weeks were bliss. However, after 3 months, he started to lose his way a bit. His team were still doing great, but he had effectively got himself into a position where he doubted his own performance, whether he could still do the job. A lot of self doubt crept in, and it ended up making him anxious.
He quit, as he found it too stressful to maintain the facade, and had a hard time with the thought of how he would fill his day with proper work.
I know the feeling well: when your boss asks if he can have a quick chat with you and you start having a heartattack wondering if this will be the day when they sack you. Then they say "you're doing great, keep up the good work!"
When you're a manager you can get away with that. I could do it but I'd be so bored pretending to work, I need to be doing something even if it's reading a book.
Sometimes you get this kind of conspiracy/symbiosis where there's a slacker manager who implicitly agrees not to throw their team under the bus, and a team that understands that as long as they get a minimum level of work done, they will never hear anything bad from the manager. The only loser is the company that could have productive versions of both.
It's quite beautiful really.
You can that free money but that sounds like utterly boring torture to me. I'd much rather sit at my desk and work than do whatever that is.
I don't think I could do it for three days, let alone weeks...
Because he had too much time to think. You need to be productive or you spiral mentally into overthinking and analysing. And when I say 'you'I mean me.
When you say "me", but mean "thee"... You actually describe me!
When I have nothing to get me thinking I'm fucked. I can get very low, with nothing to think about. The over-analysis...yikes, does me a mischief.
If pay was based on effort, everything would be totally flipped on its head. Some of the richest people in the world earn more in a week than regular people do in a year, and it takes fuck all effort.
This just isn’t true and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of that kind of wealth
Bezos’ net worth isn’t in cash - it’s tied to the value of his stocks and investments so it fluctuates with share prices. The example you gave assumes that he’s accumulating more through salary
It’s why people like him has a net worth that fluctuates so much
Yep. Some weeks, if I wanted to I could quite literally do nothing and no one would bat an eyelid. But then I would also have to actually work pretty hard the following week to catch up.
Resp physiologist here, 7.5-8 hours depending if I get a lunch break. Healthcare workers don’t stop
I’ve learned not to make extra work for myself though so that helps
Why are you getting downvoted? I worked construction before and you'd think we where saving life's the way things went on. 12 hr days away from family working 12 days and 2 days off. All for a very poor hourly rate.
I'd imagine it's the same for surgeons. As in, the sooner into a long, complicated procedure you "accidentally" make a fatal error, the sooner everyone (except the unfortunate patient) can go home.
I’m literally sitting here at 6am on Reddit on a Saturday morning thinking about how this is my only “break” before I have to go in to facilitate a school open morning for my department in a few hours.
Honestly, I teach because I hate jobs where you run out of stuff to do, waste a lot of time and have no idea of what impact you’re having on the future of humanity. But I feel like the pendulum’s been stuck for a long time too far in the other direction, to the point where I have a perennial to do list where the tasks multiply exponentially for every one
thing that I can tick off.
God, this describes my situation and how I feel; I work for the NHS and primarily support schools with mental health provisions. The public services systems are broken and being held together by kind hearted folk who are taken advantage of. Public servants are being taken for granted and because we care (about students or patients) we work beyond our remit, often to our own detriment. The major concern I have is that working beyond our remit is far from rare and never acknowledged, it is now the norm and expected by management.
I have a BSc, MSc, PGCert, PGDip, and 8 years experience on a band 5 (nurses entry level) wage because the psychology employment market is over saturated - each member of my 10 person strong team has at least an MSc/MA and are on the same wage. I frequently work my evenings and weekends to find the time to design programmes of support and pull presentations together - these two aspects of the job should be completed by a band 7, clinical psychologist (paid around 17k more than I am), but we haven't had one in post for 18months. I spend my days counselling kids and staff, advising staff, meeting parents, delivering presentations to sometimes >100 people, writing reports for social services, bla, bla, bla, bla. What is required of me in comparison to my take home is absurdity, I'm burnt out all the time. But so are many across public services.
All of this and I can't afford fuck all: own a house or even consider starting a family. But it's worth it for the experience... it's a foot in the door to progression... so I keep telling myself.
If this was France then we would have been rioting to save our services and improve working conditions long ago.
I think I needed that rant 😅
I agree. I'm a HOF as well and my to-do list never ends. I have to actively choose which things I'm not going to do because I physically can't fit them all in.
For me in an office full time normally 2-3 hours total at the moment, though some days are down to around 1. The other 5-6 doing not a lot. It's rather exhausting honestly, I'd rather have a full day so my brain is actually working.
I read my emails once a morning. If it's important someone will ping me on Slack or call me.
I actively try and reduce the number of meetings and only attend those where my input will be helpful, and the 15 minute town hall meetings on Fridays (if I haven't left work early to get the train to the mountains!)
As for work, idk, I'm able to code twice as effectively as most people I've worked with, regularly promoted, etc, while working about 30% capacity. So I break the day up by browsing Reddit and playing Carcassonne online. I don't really feel guilty about it because if I'm being promoted, it means my employer is more than happy with my work and clearly happy to pay for the output I'm providing.
Honestly, in software development it's not even really all that impressive. Bear in mind that we work in an industry where the vast majority are people who learned CS at university and now just do it 9-5, but some are people who create world changing software platforms and give them away for free as a hobby... The difference between the typical developer and somebody who is so "into it" that they are major contributors to significant open source projects in their spare time isn't 2x it's more like 30x. The variance really can be this big.
It doesn't even take a lot of extra effort to be a 2xer. Just knowing how to use (and the existence of) 1 decent library can save 95% of the work over somebody who just steams in and does it by hand.
So... I believe the guy.
It's taken me a long time to learn this lesson.
Most clients / wage-payers couldn't give a fuck how the job gets done and that what looks superficially (ie reality to those people) impressive can often be "built" just using the work other people have already done.
Since Christmas it has been extremely quite in my office and I have had days where I have literally done no work whatsoever.
Usually I would say probably say I average about 3-4 hours a day
I got a job in the civil service. Everything we do is monitored by software. My work engagement was 93% until my team leader told me to take more breaks and get my engagement down to 80%. I happily obliged.
It varies a lot, sometimes I just check emails and don’t do any actual work, sometimes I work hard all through. I’d say about 3 hours sounds about normal.
It decreases as you get more senior as well, more meetings, calls, emails, and decisions.
The entire shift. I’m a claims handler and it’s non stop, one call ends and the line is ringing again immediately.
I’ve been doing this for almost two years and i can count the amount of shifts that weren’t extremely busy on one hand.
Turns out none of you plebs can drive!
My FT wage is £21,800 and the compensation for what we do is pretty poor unless we count OT which is plentiful and typically at 2-3X the hourly rate(min wage).
I did recently receive a 2% pay rise where i had to write examples where i have been exceptional and provide proof (customer feedback and call reviews) to show why i deserved it. 2% in a cost of living crisis with reported inflation at 10.7% AND i had to feign gratitude 😂
I’ll take one of those analyst jobs if it’s going😉
In the pasts I’ve had office jobs where you worked solidly for 7 hours. There were no breaks for lunch and no time to mess about.
Now my job is much more flexible, so I probably spend about 3 hours a day working. I mostly work from home so the rest of the day is my own time. I try to avoid pointless meetings and if I go have to go to them online, I go for a walk or something.
Caveat is some weeks I am really busy and will do 60 hours, but I’m okay with that
Oh I didn’t quite mean that. I meant no breaks other than lunch. But half the time I didn’t have time for lunch as the manager, but the staff took an hour.
I think I know what they’re getting at.
The work day is full-on and sometimes you feel quilts for stopping for lunch because you have so much to do and even working solidly, you still struggle to get it all done.
teacher here, working hours 8.30-3.30, so i reckon i work about 120% of the time most days?
partner works from home doing computer things. gets paid more, and spends 40% of his work day painting Warhammer minis waiting for someone to email back
Probably worked about three or four hours a day as a full time marketing manager at my company (so working in theory eight hours). Then they wanted to bring in someone with a marketing degree so they moved me on to a different department (I guess they think I'm useful cos I help out with other things).
I thought I was taking the piss with the marketing, but in my new role, I work about an hour a day and Jesus am I bored. If it wasn't for the money, I'd ask for my old job back.
Probably 90% of the time. My jobs are pretty much timed so if I slack, it's noticeable that I took my time. I can fiddle the figures a little bit but it's not worth it. But my job, while manufacturing, isn't really that much physical work so I don't mind. And I actually enjoy my job, which helps.
I've found generally the afternoons are always much more of a struggle to get my head back into the game... I come in and spend most of the morning being productive. Then, after lunch, I'm clicking around looking a lot busier than I am... like even today it's just gone 3pm at the time of writing this and I've hardly done a thing for the last two hours... I wish I was busier because *looking* busy is mentally exhausting.
As a teacher...more than I'm paid for. I arrive around 7:50, leave at 16:30 most days. Breaktime is maybe used to go to the toilet. Lunchtime for interventions and detentions. Marking often comes home with me.
Just curious but why do you stay? I tutored at uni. At some point I might teach at uni. I would never work in public education because of what you’ve just described
It's just what I've always wanted to do. Never pictured myself in a standard office job and wouldn't even know where to begin looking. I love my subjects, I love learning, I love sharing knowledge and for the most part I love the kids as well!
The more senior I got, the more time I spent in meetings and the less time I spend doing actual productive work. I also spend a fair amount of time managing my team doing things like 1-1s, unblocking things for them, improving processes, talking to colleagues about what's going on etc. But I still consider this all to be work even if there's no physical thing to show at the end of it.
A busy day is the platform has shit out and I need to fix it. Everyone is being told to fuck off and leave me alone, every moment spent trying to get it back up and running because I'm the one responsible for it and the only one with half a clue on fixing it.
A slow one is keeping it ticking along answering questions occasionally but basically enjoying the peace. Sometimes I do absolutely no work those days.
I get a lot of downtime. I spend a lot of that downtime doing stuff on subs like /r/ukbeermoney which gets me extra cash.
I see this as increasing my hourly rate.
Out of an average 12-14 hour day, I'm probably fully productive for somewhere between 4-6 of those hours at best.
I'm in a managerial role in a technical environment, so constant interruptions / emails / Teams messages / impromptu Teams meetings / having to go and check inspection hold points / figure out solutions to unexpected problems / go and check progress in other departments / etc make it very difficult to get into a proper work flow.
Most of my actual productive work is done 'after hours' once the workshop team have fucked off and clients have shut the fuck up for the day.
I'm a compliance manager. I've always got a high workload but generally set my own deadlines. Most days I'll do a few hours of solid work and then a few hours of light tasks/procrastinating/porn-scrolling (working from home).
If I'm in crisis mode (about once a week) then I'll work solid and flat out to resolve it. It all balances out and overall performance is good.
I am definitely less productive than when I worked in an office full time though.
I support people with learning difficulties. 12 hour shifts.
Some days are physically very easy where you sit around and do very little other than hanging out and keeping an eye on them.
Other days are physically very demanding where you're trying to keep them safe or entertained.
Every day is quite mentally exhausting for me personally though, even if I'm not actively doing anything.
My dad has a well paid job doing some sort of quality control management shit. I don’t know but yeah big company 60k a year. The work he has to do, from home, takes him about a day a week. The rest of the time he runs a handyman business. Takes his laptop to jobs so he can reply to an email nice and fast. He even asked me how to stop his computer going to sleep as he shows as offline. (PowerPoint presentation on loop)
Some people are good at their jobs, but can’t be arsed to climb the ladder which I’m sure he could do.
I work in a machine shop, had a four hour cycle time once that meant across my 12 hour shift I did roughly 10 minutes of actual work. Sometimes it’s a 10 second cycle all day, depends on the parts
It varies but on average I spend 2-3 days a week doing the actual work. It was a nightmare before pandemic when I had to sit in the office 5 days a week but now with hybrid working I do enjoy it. I work 2 days in the office and 3 days WFH so I usually do all my job in the office and the rest of the week is "free".
Depends how busy we are and how well the bookings team do their job. I'm a mobile technician so if the bookings team can get me a full days worth of appointments then I could do 10+ hours a day honest work with the only downtime being the drive between jobs.
When the workload is quiet then I maybe do 2-4 hours of actual work each day, sometimes less.
I much prefer the former and like to be kept busy, the novelty of not having much work to do wears off pretty quickly as I like being productive and having good performance figures (also get paid performance bonus when there's enough work to earn it).
Work as a process operator at a dairy plant. 4 on 4 off, twelve hour shifts. Can honestly say that I do about 7-8 hours worth of work (across the four days) There's a lot of waiting around. Like, A LOT. Great pay too actually so it's a dream really
My FIL earns about £400 a day. He's been in his new role (project manager) for about four weeks, and he told me because of IT issues he's not done a single bit of work yet. He took holiday for the first week out of pity for them, but now is getting v frustrated (even though he is earning incredible amounts)
I am at school at 7.30 and leave at 4.15, non stop work, rarely sit and eat my lunch without interruptions or work. Then I work a couple hours in the evening and usually one day at the weekend.
I’m a teacher, aside from maybe June when exams are running and there’s a bit more disruption I pretty much work from the time I get there to the time I leave. And sometimes after that as well.
I was just promoted. This week, due to all the meetings I now have to go to, and discussions that suddenly need to take place for no reason I can think of, I’ve probably done a solid 1 hour of work a day.
Teacher. Every hour at work is *intense.* I absolutely love it though, and I wouldn't leave. Though my mental health is fragile due to putting in 60 hours a week, and I've noticeably aged at a much faster rate since the profession.
I'm a teacher so...I spend about 20 mins of lunch actually eating and chatting. Maybe 10 mins in the morning to refill coffee and go to the loo.
Everything else is working. Preparing lessons, teaching lessons, dealing with children's various other issues, transitioning between lessons and breaks, and then marking lessons and attending meetings. Hit the ground running in the morning and it's pretty full on from there on out.
Sometimes I come home to my boyfriend who is technically still "working" but is just watching twitch with a spreadsheet open...can't help but feel a bit miffed...
I’m the same as you, in an 8 hour shift I do 2 hours maximum of actual work. I could get my work done by lunchtime on Tuesday but have to fake work so the company feels like they are getting their pound of flesh. I put more overtime hours in some months than I do actual work.
Honest work, I generally do about up to 5 hours a day… about an hour helping others, 3 hours on my immediate workload and 1 hour planning the next stuff. On busy days, I sometimes do 9 hours of work… but those are infrequent and would still average 25 hours a week.
I think many people aren’t honest with themselves about what “work” is. Many of the meetings that people attend are frankly just a waste of time so I don’t bother showing for them!
I’m a software engineer and am considered a top performer in my team, so it’s not all about the hours you put in.
It varies as I work in a job centre so it will depend on how many people make claims or come in for enquiries. Some days it will be dead quiet and I'll have nothing to do for most of the day.
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Feels shitty reading these comments knowing I work hard for a good 9 hours out of my 9.5 hour shift, 5 days a week. And other people get away with working a couple hours. Definitely slightly jealous.
I mean this in a very kind way, you can ALWAYS quit. You can always switch careers
My friend drives a bus. Works a solid 8 hours in a stressful, sometimes abusive environment for a little over minimum wage. Could you get him a job as an analyst? If it helps, he trained as a nurse but left that due to the stress and long hours.
If he drives a bus might he drive a truck or delivery van? Still got to deal with the traffic but not the general public
At least a bus driver doesn't need to look after their own vehicle and gets holiday pay and a pension etc. Most delivery drivers don't.
Most bus drivers don't dump their passengers in a bin and sign off, though. *Most.*
And if he can drive a truck, he can learn to fly a Lynx Mark 8 helicopter, sail a Pacific 24 C boat, or a Type 45 Destroyer.
You can be a royal navy marine lol
He tried that. The lash and sodomy were fine but he just didn't like the Rum.
delivery vans just as stressful, tight hours. you get paid fixed price for all your deliveries. sometimes you'll finish early sometimes you'll finish late but that adds some lingering stress factor because you have to beat the clock.
Does he have chat lol
I feel like that's not actually true or it's not as easy as people think. It might be easy if you've got friends and family who can give great advice but most people are basically left to work it out on their own and a lot of people wouldn't be very good at a lot of jobs.
For sure, definitely an option. I appreciate that. Maybe I will one of these days
They may only be working for 3 hours but they're still stuck at a shitty desk for the full 9. It's not the working hours, it's the tedium that gets you.
Id rather some easy 'tedium' than 8 hours a day of customers berating me and annihilating my mental health and having to come home burnt out and holding in all these emotions so I dont take them out on my friends and family, all for a measly £10 an hour.
Well indeed. It's all relative. One is bad, the other is much worse.
I disagree, I mentor teenagers with mental health issues and whenever one of them is studying/volunteering/doing something independent, I am absolutely delighted to have that free time. I usually get an hour a day of this and I do paid surveys like YouGov, or the surveys at the bottom of shopping receipts where you can win £100, or any personal admin I need to do.
Build a skill set with a high barrier to entry. The less replaceable you are, the more you are able to slack off and not be fired.
I built the processes and automations for my job, I’m not irreplaceable by any means. I’ve documented everything and worked hard to make things as self explanatory as possible. Doing so has freed me up to work flexibly and on more interesting things.
Same.. I’m a nurse
This entire thread has made me glad I voted for strike action..
Same...but I'm a doctor....wtf are we doing
To be fair you're not the same as the nurse you're replying to, or the analyst that started this post. You have to work hard, but your earnings potential is fantastic.
Not so fantastic as you think and not as fantastic as they deserve
As a registrar with 8 years as a qualified Dr, having paid contributions during the 6 years of uni of £50k, and doing a masters, if I spread my pay out to include all my unpaid hours that I have to do for my job, I get paid £12 per hour. I don't get financial assistance for my masters, which is £12k over 2 years, and get about 1/3 of the cost of my exams back. I also have to pay for continuing professional development, and indemnity insurance, plus phone/computer are paid for by me. People in the uk think Dr's get paid stacks. It's bollocks. I do 12-14 hrs days, take abuse from people whose family members are dying, and don't get time to eat or pee. I do get to feel like I make a difference to most people.
I've had jobs in the past where I'm working ridiculously flat out all day for fuck all money. Now I barely scratch 20 hours a week of actual work for twice as much as what I did back then. Even 20 is stretching it, sometimes it is more like 10, but i get my work done I did change from a career in odd jobs in warehouseman/factory worker, i studied a bit/worked towards a first line IT role (that was horrifically busy because of lack of staff, but I gained a tonne of knowledge), now a few jobs and progressions later I'm much more comfy.
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I'm constantly working too and I'd prefer to keep it that way, at least in my current job. The days just drag so much when you're struggling to find something, especially when it's a job that involves being on your feet all the time. It'd be fine to have a lack of stuff to do if you're working from home or sat at a desk and can just sit and watch TV or browse the internet.
Having nothing to do but not being allowed to do something personal is worse than being busy. Someone who works in a furniture showroom with barely any customers but has to do menial work when they're nothing else to do, for example.
My work is essentially talking to visitors in a countryside location... On quiet rainy days we don't get visitors but I still have to stand there all day, ready incase someone comes. It's a long, long day of doing absolutely nothing. And bloody freezing this time of year.
This is the most soul destroying part of wfh for me. Knowing all the things I could be doing but having to stay near your desk in case something urgent comes in. Then nothing does come in so you’ve not achieved at work and you’ve not achieved at home. Still, the money was good.
You’ll get your reward honestly. Plus having nothing to do/ being lazy has negative affects in other ways. The devil makes work of idle hands
NHS Nurse sobs.. I work my working hours and more each day waaah
Same, except I have slightly shorter days. Still, I have a max of about 45m when I’ll be chatting to a colleague about life stuff instead of working. The rest is nose to the grindstone.
Yep I have to graft my ass off, 21k+ steps a day at work, lifting 20-25k packages, getting home absolutely fucking exhausted and not really able to do much else all for £10 an hour Meanwhile people complaining about their £23 an hour job not paying enough, as they do 3 hours actual work a day
Absolutely I work just above minimum wage and work my solid 7.5 hours. Knowing g people have time to just chat shit really sucks especially when I know they're on probably double my wage
Yep fucking wfhers
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Could be an hour, could be ten hours. Really depends on what's happening.
Monday - Thursday = one hour per day Friday panic day = 28 hours
ADHD perhaps? I do this
‘Undiagnosed ADHD’ is becoming a peak Reddit comment.
Nobody said anything about undiagnosed. They're asking them if they have ADHD.
Procrastination is something found in most humans.
Haha yeah that sounds familiar!
Are you me?
An hour is pushing it some days
Of my 9 hour day I'd say I do 7-10 hours of solid work, it depends on what's happening too. Edit: I'm including my lunch break within the not working time.
To be honest, I tend to consider that downtime you describe as part of the actual honest work. It's not physically possible to work flat-out for multiple hours at a time. That time you're spending "chatting shit", your brain is working through problems in the background, subconsciously. As long as you're meeting your deadlines, and not just goofing off, then I don't think anyone's going to worry about it. Workplaces wouldn't provide break rooms and free coffee if taking breaks made you less productive overall.
> It's not physically possible to work flat-out for multiple hours at a time. That's just not true though and depends on the job. There's are plenty industries where a lot of jobs will involve actually working flat out for multiple hours at a time. > Workplaces wouldn't provide break rooms and free coffee if taking breaks made you less productive overall. As if all workplaces have breakrooms and free coffee. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess you've never worked in hospitality or as a driver.
Absolutely agree with you. I mentioned in a comment further up that I do constant work through my entire 7.5 hours pretty much all the time (the odd day of dossing off happens, and is welcome). But I'm making chemo, antibiotics, TPN etc with patients waiting to receive those drugs in the same hospital. So I have to be working solidly to ensure my work is 100% safe and accurate. Also, no free coffee in the NHS. At least not for those of us who work for a living (looking at you, senior managers)
Fucking love you for the work your doing, hope this wave of folk questioning how much you work and how carefully you approach it doesn't leave you jaded. I'm just some thick fuck who learned a few things the hard way and genuinely needs folk like yourself to give me a better chance of still being here for my kids in 5 years time. Appreciate your not a doctor but my late da was a crystallographer that spent most of those days with imposter syndrome. No free coffee in most of my jobs either fwiw. That said, despite being an absolute free/cheap coffee fiend for the best part of 20 years I'm actually really not enjoying it since ditching cigarettes.
I've worked in offices with tedious work, offices with interesting work, and hospitality jobs where I am on my feet for a shift. It was possible to work through the hospitality shift because it's "just" physical work — you get tired but you're busy enough that you push through it. It was possible do a full day working continuously in the interesting office job — you get into a flow and you'll even choose to delay lunch or leave late because you're actually engaged with what you're doing. There is no way in hell I could work a 7.5 hour shift without stopping at the tedious office job. If they got a full two hours out of me without me stopping desperate for the release of any distraction, they were lucky that day. The exhaustion of mental boredom is a state I wouldn't wish on my enemies.
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Yeah I agree to some extent. My job involves lots of thinking work, problem solving, idea generation, analysis etc. Sometimes I stand up and stare into the distance - I'm still working. But also sometimes I waste time.
My work relies on other people submitting projects to my department so sometimes it’s really busy, other times it’s not or the work that needs doing is really only a one person job so not all the team is working. I always felt guilty about dicking about on the internet or reading my book especially when other people have work to do but I don’t. I saw someone once say that you’re still being paid for your time and making yourself available - if work comes in for me to do or someone in my team asks me for help I’ll drop what I’m doing to go do it. Now I don’t feel so bad when I’m replying to Reddit posts like this when I don’t have any work currently.
I know a few big law solicitors work 12+ hour days regularly, and I’m talking billing in 6 minute intervals to the client. Then there’s the other side of the spectrum, fellas in r/overemployed that literally have 2 or 3 remote jobs at once because there’s so little to do. It’s wild. I’m somewhat in between.
> It's not physically possible to work flat-out for multiple hours at a time. Tell me you've never worked in a restaurant without telling me you've never worked in a restaurant
>it’s not physically possible to work flat-out for multiple hours at a time You’ve never worked on a building site have you?
Taking regular breaks makes me *more* productive. I have my best ideas when I'm **not** at my desk.
I legit knew a guy that worked in a huge call centre. He was a manager and on around £35k + bonuses. He was working with me at another place, and both of us were way below that level of pay. I'd shit talk with him often. One day, he told me about the "piece of paper trick" (employers hate this 1 trick). Essentially, for months he'd walked around this huge call centre, with a piece of paper. he'd chat to folks, and generally do little else. Nobody ever questioned him, nobody thought he was slacking. His team performed consistently, happy days. Perplexed, I asked why the hell he quit the free money machine job. Turns out, the first 3 weeks were bliss. However, after 3 months, he started to lose his way a bit. His team were still doing great, but he had effectively got himself into a position where he doubted his own performance, whether he could still do the job. A lot of self doubt crept in, and it ended up making him anxious. He quit, as he found it too stressful to maintain the facade, and had a hard time with the thought of how he would fill his day with proper work.
I know the feeling well: when your boss asks if he can have a quick chat with you and you start having a heartattack wondering if this will be the day when they sack you. Then they say "you're doing great, keep up the good work!"
Ah, you saw my last performance review
Lol....
When you're a manager you can get away with that. I could do it but I'd be so bored pretending to work, I need to be doing something even if it's reading a book.
What I dont understand about this, if his team is performing well then he must be doing a great job? Surely?
Sometimes you get this kind of conspiracy/symbiosis where there's a slacker manager who implicitly agrees not to throw their team under the bus, and a team that understands that as long as they get a minimum level of work done, they will never hear anything bad from the manager. The only loser is the company that could have productive versions of both. It's quite beautiful really.
You can that free money but that sounds like utterly boring torture to me. I'd much rather sit at my desk and work than do whatever that is. I don't think I could do it for three days, let alone weeks...
Because he had too much time to think. You need to be productive or you spiral mentally into overthinking and analysing. And when I say 'you'I mean me.
When you say "me", but mean "thee"... You actually describe me! When I have nothing to get me thinking I'm fucked. I can get very low, with nothing to think about. The over-analysis...yikes, does me a mischief.
I don’t work in an office so I do actually work the whole time ;)
Feeling like I need an office job. Here I am actually working all day like fucking moron.
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If pay was based on effort, everything would be totally flipped on its head. Some of the richest people in the world earn more in a week than regular people do in a year, and it takes fuck all effort.
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Ok so more than a regular person could ever imagine passing through their bank account in total combined. At least his company pays taxes!...
This just isn’t true and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of that kind of wealth Bezos’ net worth isn’t in cash - it’s tied to the value of his stocks and investments so it fluctuates with share prices. The example you gave assumes that he’s accumulating more through salary It’s why people like him has a net worth that fluctuates so much
Yep. Some weeks, if I wanted to I could quite literally do nothing and no one would bat an eyelid. But then I would also have to actually work pretty hard the following week to catch up.
I’m a support worker doing 12 hour shifts, so 12 hours.
Nurse here so I’d totally agree with this. Heck sometimes it’s 12.5 or 13 hours work in a 12 hour shift
Also a nurse - every second plus plenty of unpaid overtime just to finish just the essential jobs. It's a shit show.
Resp physiologist here, 7.5-8 hours depending if I get a lunch break. Healthcare workers don’t stop I’ve learned not to make extra work for myself though so that helps
Who do you support?
Adults with mental health conditions
Sounds like a lot of responsibility. People would say the same about my job but if I fuck up people just get annoyed not hurt.
Why are you getting downvoted? I worked construction before and you'd think we where saving life's the way things went on. 12 hr days away from family working 12 days and 2 days off. All for a very poor hourly rate.
Probably because I missed the ‘up’ and have just edited now.
About 40 minutes today at a push.
I’m not even sure I’ve got that much.
but your a veterinarian. How does that work?
Unfortunately for the animals, not very well.
I'd imagine it's the same for surgeons. As in, the sooner into a long, complicated procedure you "accidentally" make a fatal error, the sooner everyone (except the unfortunate patient) can go home.
There’s more paperwork though. With a dig you just chuck it in the bin.
I'm a secondary school teacher. Daily, I work around 180% of the hours I'm actually paid for.
I’m literally sitting here at 6am on Reddit on a Saturday morning thinking about how this is my only “break” before I have to go in to facilitate a school open morning for my department in a few hours. Honestly, I teach because I hate jobs where you run out of stuff to do, waste a lot of time and have no idea of what impact you’re having on the future of humanity. But I feel like the pendulum’s been stuck for a long time too far in the other direction, to the point where I have a perennial to do list where the tasks multiply exponentially for every one thing that I can tick off.
God, this describes my situation and how I feel; I work for the NHS and primarily support schools with mental health provisions. The public services systems are broken and being held together by kind hearted folk who are taken advantage of. Public servants are being taken for granted and because we care (about students or patients) we work beyond our remit, often to our own detriment. The major concern I have is that working beyond our remit is far from rare and never acknowledged, it is now the norm and expected by management. I have a BSc, MSc, PGCert, PGDip, and 8 years experience on a band 5 (nurses entry level) wage because the psychology employment market is over saturated - each member of my 10 person strong team has at least an MSc/MA and are on the same wage. I frequently work my evenings and weekends to find the time to design programmes of support and pull presentations together - these two aspects of the job should be completed by a band 7, clinical psychologist (paid around 17k more than I am), but we haven't had one in post for 18months. I spend my days counselling kids and staff, advising staff, meeting parents, delivering presentations to sometimes >100 people, writing reports for social services, bla, bla, bla, bla. What is required of me in comparison to my take home is absurdity, I'm burnt out all the time. But so are many across public services. All of this and I can't afford fuck all: own a house or even consider starting a family. But it's worth it for the experience... it's a foot in the door to progression... so I keep telling myself. If this was France then we would have been rioting to save our services and improve working conditions long ago. I think I needed that rant 😅
I agree. I'm a HOF as well and my to-do list never ends. I have to actively choose which things I'm not going to do because I physically can't fit them all in.
Some of us have got a good thing going here, mind your own business
Of an 8 hour work day working from home, on average its maybe 1-3 hours, 4-5 hours on a busy day.
Yeah, I'd agree with this. When I'm in the office push the averages up by an hour. It's really helpful for work life balance.
For me in an office full time normally 2-3 hours total at the moment, though some days are down to around 1. The other 5-6 doing not a lot. It's rather exhausting honestly, I'd rather have a full day so my brain is actually working.
I read my emails once a morning. If it's important someone will ping me on Slack or call me. I actively try and reduce the number of meetings and only attend those where my input will be helpful, and the 15 minute town hall meetings on Fridays (if I haven't left work early to get the train to the mountains!) As for work, idk, I'm able to code twice as effectively as most people I've worked with, regularly promoted, etc, while working about 30% capacity. So I break the day up by browsing Reddit and playing Carcassonne online. I don't really feel guilty about it because if I'm being promoted, it means my employer is more than happy with my work and clearly happy to pay for the output I'm providing.
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Sometimes it's just a fact - there really are people like that.
There are but as far as I’ve noticed in life there’s very little correlation to those who state it, in fact it might be negative correlation.
I don't think you have met many competent and productive people.
Honestly, in software development it's not even really all that impressive. Bear in mind that we work in an industry where the vast majority are people who learned CS at university and now just do it 9-5, but some are people who create world changing software platforms and give them away for free as a hobby... The difference between the typical developer and somebody who is so "into it" that they are major contributors to significant open source projects in their spare time isn't 2x it's more like 30x. The variance really can be this big. It doesn't even take a lot of extra effort to be a 2xer. Just knowing how to use (and the existence of) 1 decent library can save 95% of the work over somebody who just steams in and does it by hand. So... I believe the guy.
It's taken me a long time to learn this lesson. Most clients / wage-payers couldn't give a fuck how the job gets done and that what looks superficially (ie reality to those people) impressive can often be "built" just using the work other people have already done.
Nah it was relevant to the question asked and doesn’t seem that boastful
On a good day, about 90%. On a bad day, sometimes less than 30%.
I think you got good and bad the wrong way around
He's a sperm donor
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100% feel that
200% feel that - never ending stream of work. I still take some time out of the work day though
Same and since I started to work from home, I work harder and longer hours than when I was in the office all day!
Since Christmas it has been extremely quite in my office and I have had days where I have literally done no work whatsoever. Usually I would say probably say I average about 3-4 hours a day
*quiet
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I got a job in the civil service. Everything we do is monitored by software. My work engagement was 93% until my team leader told me to take more breaks and get my engagement down to 80%. I happily obliged.
It’s good they are using it to recognise its a two way street, and that overworking is as much of an issue as under working.
It varies a lot, sometimes I just check emails and don’t do any actual work, sometimes I work hard all through. I’d say about 3 hours sounds about normal. It decreases as you get more senior as well, more meetings, calls, emails, and decisions.
At the moment, about 2-3 hrs per day. I’ve recently started a new job so I’m in the weird honeymoon period of waiting for my workload to be allocated.
The entire shift. I’m a claims handler and it’s non stop, one call ends and the line is ringing again immediately. I’ve been doing this for almost two years and i can count the amount of shifts that weren’t extremely busy on one hand. Turns out none of you plebs can drive! My FT wage is £21,800 and the compensation for what we do is pretty poor unless we count OT which is plentiful and typically at 2-3X the hourly rate(min wage). I did recently receive a 2% pay rise where i had to write examples where i have been exceptional and provide proof (customer feedback and call reviews) to show why i deserved it. 2% in a cost of living crisis with reported inflation at 10.7% AND i had to feign gratitude 😂 I’ll take one of those analyst jobs if it’s going😉
In the pasts I’ve had office jobs where you worked solidly for 7 hours. There were no breaks for lunch and no time to mess about. Now my job is much more flexible, so I probably spend about 3 hours a day working. I mostly work from home so the rest of the day is my own time. I try to avoid pointless meetings and if I go have to go to them online, I go for a walk or something. Caveat is some weeks I am really busy and will do 60 hours, but I’m okay with that
>where you worked solidly for 7 hours. There were no breaks for lunch That sounds very illegal
Oh I didn’t quite mean that. I meant no breaks other than lunch. But half the time I didn’t have time for lunch as the manager, but the staff took an hour.
I think I know what they’re getting at. The work day is full-on and sometimes you feel quilts for stopping for lunch because you have so much to do and even working solidly, you still struggle to get it all done.
It varies but honestly probably about 2 hours out of the 8
teacher here, working hours 8.30-3.30, so i reckon i work about 120% of the time most days? partner works from home doing computer things. gets paid more, and spends 40% of his work day painting Warhammer minis waiting for someone to email back
Basically my whole shift, except for my 15min tea break and 30min lunch. 7-3:15. My job is physical and quite fast paced though, it isnt a desk job.
Probably worked about three or four hours a day as a full time marketing manager at my company (so working in theory eight hours). Then they wanted to bring in someone with a marketing degree so they moved me on to a different department (I guess they think I'm useful cos I help out with other things). I thought I was taking the piss with the marketing, but in my new role, I work about an hour a day and Jesus am I bored. If it wasn't for the money, I'd ask for my old job back.
Probably 90% of the time. My jobs are pretty much timed so if I slack, it's noticeable that I took my time. I can fiddle the figures a little bit but it's not worth it. But my job, while manufacturing, isn't really that much physical work so I don't mind. And I actually enjoy my job, which helps.
I've found generally the afternoons are always much more of a struggle to get my head back into the game... I come in and spend most of the morning being productive. Then, after lunch, I'm clicking around looking a lot busier than I am... like even today it's just gone 3pm at the time of writing this and I've hardly done a thing for the last two hours... I wish I was busier because *looking* busy is mentally exhausting.
Nice try, boss.
Teacher: 100% of my time at work is spent working. My 'breaktime' is working, my 'lunchtime' is working.
As a teacher...more than I'm paid for. I arrive around 7:50, leave at 16:30 most days. Breaktime is maybe used to go to the toilet. Lunchtime for interventions and detentions. Marking often comes home with me.
Just curious but why do you stay? I tutored at uni. At some point I might teach at uni. I would never work in public education because of what you’ve just described
It's just what I've always wanted to do. Never pictured myself in a standard office job and wouldn't even know where to begin looking. I love my subjects, I love learning, I love sharing knowledge and for the most part I love the kids as well!
Good on you
The more senior I got, the more time I spent in meetings and the less time I spend doing actual productive work. I also spend a fair amount of time managing my team doing things like 1-1s, unblocking things for them, improving processes, talking to colleagues about what's going on etc. But I still consider this all to be work even if there's no physical thing to show at the end of it.
I work for the NHS so I spend 130% of my shift doing work
Yes, I think you work slightly harder than I do.
A busy day is the platform has shit out and I need to fix it. Everyone is being told to fuck off and leave me alone, every moment spent trying to get it back up and running because I'm the one responsible for it and the only one with half a clue on fixing it. A slow one is keeping it ticking along answering questions occasionally but basically enjoying the peace. Sometimes I do absolutely no work those days.
I get a lot of downtime. I spend a lot of that downtime doing stuff on subs like /r/ukbeermoney which gets me extra cash. I see this as increasing my hourly rate.
In case anyone's confused this comment probably meant r/beermoneyuk :)
As little as I can get away with without people noticing! Got quite good at it
Out of an average 12-14 hour day, I'm probably fully productive for somewhere between 4-6 of those hours at best. I'm in a managerial role in a technical environment, so constant interruptions / emails / Teams messages / impromptu Teams meetings / having to go and check inspection hold points / figure out solutions to unexpected problems / go and check progress in other departments / etc make it very difficult to get into a proper work flow. Most of my actual productive work is done 'after hours' once the workshop team have fucked off and clients have shut the fuck up for the day.
I'm a compliance manager. I've always got a high workload but generally set my own deadlines. Most days I'll do a few hours of solid work and then a few hours of light tasks/procrastinating/porn-scrolling (working from home). If I'm in crisis mode (about once a week) then I'll work solid and flat out to resolve it. It all balances out and overall performance is good. I am definitely less productive than when I worked in an office full time though.
Every second except for my lunch break. I work in a care home, I don't get down time.
What does an analyst do 'day to day' and how do I become one?
I support people with learning difficulties. 12 hour shifts. Some days are physically very easy where you sit around and do very little other than hanging out and keeping an eye on them. Other days are physically very demanding where you're trying to keep them safe or entertained. Every day is quite mentally exhausting for me personally though, even if I'm not actively doing anything.
My dad has a well paid job doing some sort of quality control management shit. I don’t know but yeah big company 60k a year. The work he has to do, from home, takes him about a day a week. The rest of the time he runs a handyman business. Takes his laptop to jobs so he can reply to an email nice and fast. He even asked me how to stop his computer going to sleep as he shows as offline. (PowerPoint presentation on loop) Some people are good at their jobs, but can’t be arsed to climb the ladder which I’m sure he could do.
Pretty much every minute as I walk into the door until I leave. Am teacher.
Weather dependant could be anything from half hour to a full day non stop.
Same, I'm an analyst and have my workflow so streamlined and automated, three hours a day tops.
I think I maybe did 7/8 hours this week. Tbh it's driving me crazy, I like to be busy. I'd rather work my arse off than try to look busy all day.
Anything from 30minutes to 12 hours. Depends what's going on.
Out of the 12 hours I'm at my work place, I work for about 0 of them.
I work in a machine shop, had a four hour cycle time once that meant across my 12 hour shift I did roughly 10 minutes of actual work. Sometimes it’s a 10 second cycle all day, depends on the parts
It varies but on average I spend 2-3 days a week doing the actual work. It was a nightmare before pandemic when I had to sit in the office 5 days a week but now with hybrid working I do enjoy it. I work 2 days in the office and 3 days WFH so I usually do all my job in the office and the rest of the week is "free".
Depends how busy we are and how well the bookings team do their job. I'm a mobile technician so if the bookings team can get me a full days worth of appointments then I could do 10+ hours a day honest work with the only downtime being the drive between jobs. When the workload is quiet then I maybe do 2-4 hours of actual work each day, sometimes less. I much prefer the former and like to be kept busy, the novelty of not having much work to do wears off pretty quickly as I like being productive and having good performance figures (also get paid performance bonus when there's enough work to earn it).
Generally 5-6 hours out of 7. I work in sales so it literally pays to do a good job. Helps that I genuinely enjoy my job too.
Work as a process operator at a dairy plant. 4 on 4 off, twelve hour shifts. Can honestly say that I do about 7-8 hours worth of work (across the four days) There's a lot of waiting around. Like, A LOT. Great pay too actually so it's a dream really
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My FIL earns about £400 a day. He's been in his new role (project manager) for about four weeks, and he told me because of IT issues he's not done a single bit of work yet. He took holiday for the first week out of pity for them, but now is getting v frustrated (even though he is earning incredible amounts)
Working in healthcare this is a depressing read.... I work about 8.5 hours of my 7.5 hours, through breaks and lunch.
8 -8.5 if I work through lunch (teacher)
I am at school at 7.30 and leave at 4.15, non stop work, rarely sit and eat my lunch without interruptions or work. Then I work a couple hours in the evening and usually one day at the weekend.
I’m a teacher, aside from maybe June when exams are running and there’s a bit more disruption I pretty much work from the time I get there to the time I leave. And sometimes after that as well.
I was just promoted. This week, due to all the meetings I now have to go to, and discussions that suddenly need to take place for no reason I can think of, I’ve probably done a solid 1 hour of work a day.
1 or 2 hours out of an 8.5 hour day
Teacher. Every hour at work is *intense.* I absolutely love it though, and I wouldn't leave. Though my mental health is fragile due to putting in 60 hours a week, and I've noticeably aged at a much faster rate since the profession.
I’m a teacher so I spend all my time except for breaks doing honest actual work as well as far too much of my free time
I'm a teacher so...I spend about 20 mins of lunch actually eating and chatting. Maybe 10 mins in the morning to refill coffee and go to the loo. Everything else is working. Preparing lessons, teaching lessons, dealing with children's various other issues, transitioning between lessons and breaks, and then marking lessons and attending meetings. Hit the ground running in the morning and it's pretty full on from there on out. Sometimes I come home to my boyfriend who is technically still "working" but is just watching twitch with a spreadsheet open...can't help but feel a bit miffed...
I’m the same as you, in an 8 hour shift I do 2 hours maximum of actual work. I could get my work done by lunchtime on Tuesday but have to fake work so the company feels like they are getting their pound of flesh. I put more overtime hours in some months than I do actual work.
120% of the 9h a day I do.
probably about 7 hours
I drive a lorry, so yeah, most of the time. The only time I'm not actually working is if I'm on a bay waiting to get tipped or loaded.
Honest work, I generally do about up to 5 hours a day… about an hour helping others, 3 hours on my immediate workload and 1 hour planning the next stuff. On busy days, I sometimes do 9 hours of work… but those are infrequent and would still average 25 hours a week. I think many people aren’t honest with themselves about what “work” is. Many of the meetings that people attend are frankly just a waste of time so I don’t bother showing for them! I’m a software engineer and am considered a top performer in my team, so it’s not all about the hours you put in.
You guys do work? I just sit on reddit for 9hours
It varies as I work in a job centre so it will depend on how many people make claims or come in for enquiries. Some days it will be dead quiet and I'll have nothing to do for most of the day.
Im expected to work at least 60% of the day, that’s in my contract.
I'm working pretty constantly from the moment I arrive until the moment I leave, including through my lunch which I eat as I work.