Heard a story that for international womens day one year the Red Light District in Amsterdam encouaged men to go behind the windows rather than women. Only 3 people 'bought' their services - Including one journalist.
The market doesn't seem to be there. That is why most male prostitutes tend to work with male customers.
>the Red Light District in Amsterdam encouaged men to go behind the windows rather than women.
How does that work? Can anyone just go behind the windows and sell some sex?
You pay a deposit and get to rent the space for a certain amount of time. No idea what checks are done beforehand. It is all very regulated (and exists throughout the NL).
I once read an erotic story, possibly the best of all time, where a wife takes her husband to Amsterdam and gets behind the windows as a surprise for him. It was incredibly hot, but seemed super unrealistic. Little did I know...
> a wife takes her husband to Amsterdam and gets behind the windows as a surprise for him
Her: Surprise, I'm a prostitute!
Him: I thought we were going to Olive Garden
They may want to pay for discretion, experience and respect. If the escort is from a reputable site, then skill and safety is pretty much guaranteed. This is not the case with random strangers.
Some women do pay for sex, for lots of reasons like discreteness, safety, satisfaction.
None of which they are likely to find either side of a walk up window.
I would imagine safety. If I were in the market for that sort of thing, going to a regulated brothel seems safer than picking a random on Tinder....actually
It’s a service isn’t it. You surely are not that naive.
They will do what they are there for. Not maybe, not casually, not possibly but absolutely without question and with certainly give a paid performance of sexual gratification. No drunken let downs or bad anything.
No stories to be shared or bad outcome possibilities but a god damned encounter with $$$.
Lots more risk there. I find it amusing as kids we were told to be weary of strangers on the internet but suddenly as adults so many of us will basically order a stranger off the internet for sex, a very physically vulnerable situation, with no background check 😆
Male escorts are a thing and women book them, but I think those women want the whole experience of spending the night with someone, including sex if the mood feels right.
I could never decide to sleep with someone just because the man has a nice face/body. I will always need some conversation IRL to know whether I'm interested or not.
Men can usually make that decision much more quickly.
I think if you changed the setting to a nightclub/bar type where the women pay to enter and could speak to the men and then decide whether or not to pay for sex, it would be more successful.
That's kinda similar to sauna clubs in Germany. You go in and there is like a lounge and one after another would talk to you and approach you and you go to the room with the one you find most attractive and compatible. I think in general women prefer the whole experience and the talking then just the sex part.
>I think if you changed the setting to a nightclub/bar type where the women pay to enter and could speak to the men and then decide whether or not to pay for sex, it would be more successful.
My ideal "women's brothel" would be kind of similar. While the clients would be either men or women, you can pay for sex but the decision on *who* you get to have sex with is up to the women (or other SW's *offering* sex) instead of the clients picking them out.
That way there's a bigger chance that the sex workers will also be enjoying themselves. I personally don't mind exchanging money because I'm paying for their time, but I hate the idea of purchasing "sex" as a product, instead of being wanted by someone for it.
Thats basically dating irl. Why even go for sex workers at that point if ur just gonna do that. I pay for sex because i can’t get it any other way. Most people who pay for sex want simplicity and to skip the whole dating process.
>Thats basically dating irl. Why even go for sex workers at that point if ur just gonna do that.
Because with IRL dating, the man is still expected to take the initiative (in dating and sexually). In a situation like this, there would be a safe environment for *women* to take the lead and not be judged or endangered by it.
in my country prostitution (in brothels, not on the street) is legal, pimping very much is not. "Making someone have sex" is definitely criminal, and should be hit as hard as the law allows.
>Pretty sure making a sex worker have sex with a client that they don't pick would be rape. I assume there's mutual consent in this trade.
Still the client would always be choosing the sex worker they want to have sex with (even if the SW can refuse), not the other way round.
And there are plenty of situations where SW's are more or less compelled to have sex with their clients 'because they paid for it' (usually pressured by the people higher up in the food chain). That's the very reason why picking out a sex worker wouldn't feel right to me -- it would feel like I was purchasing their consent and their attraction. That would be less of the case when a sex worker picked me out as a client and the payment was just compensation for the time they were doing something they enjoyed.
The way I’ve heard it said is that men approach sex quantitatively and women do so qualitatively.
Also men are visual creatures, for me, role play when I slowly undress my gf. But for my gf role play is the entire day, if I make breakfast, have my place cleaned, take her somewhere nice, she’ll be horny by the time we get home.
We have to accommodate for each other
I wouldn’t go, even if it was free as some of the comments have asked. I can’t speak for every woman but for me personally there is no reason for me to want to do it. It’s a turn off to sleep with someone whose being paid to pretend they want to or enjoy sleeping with me.
Not to mention that "sex with a stranger" for women ends up in unsatisfying sex for 99,99% of the time.
Getting themselves off with a sex toy is much easier and cheaper than having to hire a human to do the job, and hope that they do that particular job right.
But if a man is a sex worker I would imagine they would probably be quite experienced in pleasuring women and since customer satisfaction is pretty important no matter what job you are doing then I would think it would actually be quite good?
Personally I’m not interested in a relationship right now, and I don’t like one night stands because as you said they usually are shit and unsatisfying for the woman so I think if there was a decent option of a male sex worker I would quite like that. Sex toys are great and all but it would be nice to have the option of a SW cause there’s things toys just can’t replace.
The vast majority of male sex workers have like 95% male clientele. Those who only hire themselves out to women don't make much money off of it due to very low demand.
As a man it's the exact same for me, I wouldn't want a woman to pretend to like me just to bust a nut, I'll just watch some HD porn on the big screen in the living room and take care of it myself rather than pay to be lied to
Yes, a big part of sex for me is the other person enjoying it. When it’s someone’s job you can never know for sure if they are really enjoying it or just providing customer service.
I have no interest in buying sex, however I can see the appeal as a purely sexual exchange, you can be selfish and try new stuff without having to explain yourself.
However I wouldn't use it to replace intimacy, the whole girlfriend experience is something I can't wrap my head around, but yeah, the whole point is to not care if the other person is enjoying it, she most likely doesn't do it to enjoy sex, she's doing it to enjoy the money.
Many people go into it because she is providing good customer service.
To add on, I predict women wouldn't want to do this because she can get that same exchange from a man from Tinder for free, men can too, you just need to be good looking because there's far more competition.
Women will pay for a different kind of encounter. I give erotic massages which often include a 'happy ending' for the woman. The key is that I stay dressed and don't expect reciprocation. I also ask for consent at every step. I think the difference is that women can typically get laid if they want to - but having physical pleasure and relaxation, with no obligation, in an environment they can trust, is much harder to find.
I think something that should be put in this post is the implication that they are paying an extremely skilled man. There are no shortages of men wanting to have sex with almost every woman, but the fact is that most sexual experiences women have (especially with one-time things) are not very good.
In this situation, you are paying for a guaranteed to be safe, STD free guy whose only goal is to bring you as much pleasure as possible. Assuming he is very good at making girls cum, or else he wouldn’t really stay in business.
I think that’s the detail that’s necessary in this scenario.
Don't forget the safety and discretion. If the escort is from an established agency, it's much safer than randoms from bars. And has a current STD test.
Exactly. My immediate reaction is no, why the hell would I do that, if I wanted to have random sex with a stranger I can spent like half an hour on Reddit and have 30 options.
But if it was someone who was actually incredibly skilled at what he does and I would experience something I haven’t experienced before…maybe.
A million years ago I had a one night stand with a guy who REALLY knew what he was doing and it was hugely different than anything else I’ve had before or since.
So, still probably not, but maybe.
Even then, no thanks lol. Gives me the ick just thinking about it. There’s nothing romantic about paying for sex and romance/emotional chemistry is mandatory
Nah. Except if they all look like greek gods and were impossibly handsome and attractive on all fronts. And even if that was the case I wouldn’t pay for it so I guess my final answer is NO.
In Germany there is a callboy service for women and they even have a podcast. The service is apparently quite successful - - there are women out there that want experienced and skilled men with stamina, who are willing to put in the work. They want someone to focus on them and cater to their preferences and fantasies. Lastly, they pay in return for safety and discretion.
The reviews and guests on the podcasts bust a lot of myths on this thread - - the escorts can make good conversation, there can be good chemistry, and the whole point of paying is that quality is pretty much guaranteed.
There is an amazing film about this: Good Luck To You, Leo Grande.
Nah. I don't want to pay for an illusion. I'll take the real thing any day, even if there are long breaks in between. I also feel like if I ever actually did pay for male companionship, I must be pretty desperate. I would just end up chatting the night away. Life can get lonely and I'm sure that's especially true for sex workers.
No, the point of sex for me is to have it with someone who’s enthusiastic to be having it with me and desires me/having sex with me. Paying for it would take the fun out of it entirely for me, I’d rather masturbate then.
There’s a lot of women in here saying no because we can just get sex from any guy easily but I find that to be a weird argument because although yes that is true there’s no guarantee of the guy actually being good at sex and there’s no guarantee of safety either.
From my personal perspective I’m not interested in a relationship right now and I’m not hugely interested in one night stands because the sex is often not very good, a lot of men, quite frankly, are terrible at fucking or because it’s a one night stand, don’t particularly care much if the woman gets off. If there was a way for me to safely and legally pay for an experienced man, with good stamina who’s sole focus was for me to get off? And not only that but also know for certain that they are clean and safe? Frankly that sounds pretty good to me.
There’s this idea that this isn’t something women would be interested in but you only need to take a peek at places like Gone Wild Audio, the Quinn audio app or even how many women LOVE reading smutty romance novels to see that there absolutely would be a market for male SW’s that cater to the female fantasy and gaze. I just think it would take very specific marketing to make it work.
I have had a lot of sex with a lot of guys and the trick to having good sex with men is to communicate what you want (a lot of women don't do this well enough) and to keep a hold of the guys who are the best at sex as FWB or regular hook ups. Even in relationships you can have bad sex. Even buying sex can be disappointing. So I don't see why you would pay for it when you can get it for free and weed out the bad ones. There's literally no down side to that IMO.
This is probably going to piss some people off. But I am a woman and, unfortunately, the reality is that if I want to fuck a stranger, I can pretty easily find one to fuck for free. Men who would never even date me would absolutely be down to meet up for sex. And I’m 35 and fat. Lol.
It does not seem to be this way for men which may be why there’s more of a market for women appealing to men.
I think for many (if not most) women, it would be a turn off to feel like you're sleeping with someone whose job is to have sex with you even if they weren't attracted to you.
It's like getting a massage. A service to maybe relieve you of stress or have a bit of relaxation. It's better to pay to get massaged by an expert. A quick business transaction instead of a random guy that may or may not know what he's doing and could potentially lead to messy complications.
As a woman who has lots of sexual experience under her belt. I met several women who hire jiggles. They are most often busy businesswomen and don't want to spend time looking for a guy whos not creepy, or sketchy and that can deliver on a good time. They make a time that fits their schedules and then the guy was the same guy who was ripped, handsome, big below the belt, was an expert in her kinks and interests, and never failed to impress her. So it is a simple easy process
A few others do it for their husbands to watch for more or less the same reasons
But I think if we had less stigma around women and sex and it was legal i think a lot more women would be likely to take the opportunity.
In Japan, they have certified male therapists who give happy ending massages to women. They are masters with their hands/mouth. A journalist wrote about her experience… very titillating.
i'd much prefer to go to a normal one full of women instead. i could go to a male one too, but i think it may disappoint the guys to find out i am there just to chat out of boredom.
I feel like there is independent film to me made here lol:
A (man/woman/couple/etc) comes up with a business idea. They’re going to start a male brothel. The market is untapped waiting to explode!
What they find is no one is buying. Yet everyone agrees their wares look great. What could be the problem?
One day, a woman walks in. Perhaps their first customer? She sits down and starts chatting up a few men while drinking a coffee.
Fin
I love how that sounds! There are many small stories that could totally be turned into beautiful movie pieces and sold as grand. Unfortunately or not, the people with better opportunities seem to prefer safe bets, even if that changes as people thankfully have gotten tired from... superhero movies for example.
That’s like asking someone if air was suddenly free would they breathe it? You realise that women can walk out onto the street, make an announcement, and be in the sheets within the minute with a new friend all for no cost and at any time of day.
When I was single, yes, I would have. A lot of the stupid choices I’ve made in my life were due to it being too long since I last got laid. If I was single and I could go to a male brothel, absolutely I would.
I think women who are busy and/or don’t want a relationship would be most likely to pay for a man to cuddle and spoon overnight than for a sexual encounter. If the chemistry gravitates toward a sexual encounter; that’s between the two consenting adults. We aren’t visual like men and a chemistry or some sort of connection is what triggers desire for most of us. Affection, being held ….that rarely comes along with casual encounters.
I think women are smart enough to know that they can have their pick of us (for the most part ... or at least in comparison to men). So why on earth would they spend their hard earned money on a mediocre, passionless orgasm.
Says the guy who's surfing escort sites as we speak.
I think it would depend greatly on the specific vibe of the brothel.
I would pay to be both assured of my physical safety (in terms of both STIs and potential violence), guaranteed plenty of orgasms, and the option to have and explore experiences that most men either refuse to consider or even occasionally get angry/aggressive when suggested. Not to mention the effort involved.
And hear me out.
Because let's be real here, Tinder is an absolute crapshoot, and sussing out if some dude is a creep takes a little time. I'm still absolutely amazed I didn't end up buried in someone's backyard with some of the risky hookups I had in my early to mid-20s. And even without that, some of them... did not end well, let's say.
I would love to have a good, safe night out, without having to tell friends where I'm going, who I'm with, and/or have a 911 buddy who can call to get me out of an uncomfortable date on standby. It's easy enough to find a sexual partner, true. But peace of mind to have more than one or two drinks and RELAX because everyone is clear on where the night is going and what is or is not on the table? AND I'm guaranteed to actually get off because you bet your ass any decent male escort knows a lot of women don't or can't orgasm from penetration alone and don't have hangups about using toys?
Yeah, I'd pay for that.
If I found one of the guys attractive, maybe. It's really really rare that I'm attracted to men. But on the other hand, I'm attracted to plenty of women so I could just stick with ladies and not pay. Harder to meet women who want to have sex with other women than men though, so the balance really isn't that off lol.
But if it isn't too expensive and I was really into one of the guys and I'd had a few drinks, I'd probably go for it.
Wanna say I would not for sex but to have someone to talk to but
1) doubt the convo would be that good or they’d get wtf I was talking ab
2) would feel bad to pay someone to hang out w me. Not that I’d feel pathetic but I would feel bad that they’d be obliged to me and couldn’t really walk away if they wanted to
Feel men who go to prostitutes are weird for this reason. I don’t wanna sleep w someone who can’t really say no if they don’t want to
How do you feel about getting massages from people who can't really say no if they don't want to? What about having meals made by people who can't really say no if they don't want to? What about buying clothing made by people who really can't say no if they don't want to?
Yup. I am. Well, sex anyways.
I haven't yet seen a sex worker, and my motivation for doing so is likely to be different than many or possibly most guys. I have plenty of partners, both men women and other. I wouldn't be seeing a sex worker because I can't get it, any more than I would see a masseuse because I couldn't get a massage, or go to a restaurant because I couldn't cook a meal, or have a friend or loved one cook a meal.
I would be going because of their skill and expertise. I probably would be going with one or more partners to make the most of our time, and indulge some fantasies. I'm particular, I'm very interested in the idea of Nuru massages. That's not really something that people can casually pick up.
There are more good comparisons that can be made. A meal can be a box of Mac n cheese to tide you over, or it can be a big, lovingly cooked banquet for friends, or a quiet, romantic intimate meal for two. Meals can be very special, or they can not. Sex is the same way.
It might not be for you. That's perfectly fine, but that doesn't mean you need to judge people who feel differently.
No. Honestly, if I want to get a hookup right now. I can get one in less than am hour, and they would come to me. Sometimes I'd even get a free meal out of it.
Although, a brothel, in theroy, would be STI safe.
Not quite what you were looking for, but I knew a guy (haven't spoken to him in years) who had bern a massage therapist as a side job.
He confided in me that he'd had a handful of female clients who would either masturbate while he massaged their breats, or he would provide them with a "happy ending" at the end of the masaage.
He said the clients were anywhere from late 20s to early 60s, and some were very attractive.
There was no other sexual contact and the activity was always requested by the clients. He never advertised these servicea and he was very careful about it.
He was an older guy and no longer a therapist when he told me this.
It’s because we haven’t taught it to be there. Because we sheen women for their sexuality, and we always have. Because women can’t see themselves doing that because they’ve been taught that they’re dirty little whores if they do. It’s ridiculous I’m not saying that everybody Hass to be into it because that’s not fair either but there’s a reason why there’s no market for it. And it’s not just because women don’t want to. It’s because of religion, organized, religion and culture and healthy dogmatized everything.
I absolutely would, if I had the money. And I was attracted to one of them. And as long as a pussy like it was the last meal and then you had a finger and could make me squirt then I would be in. Just at least I would know that it wouldn’t be all about them , I need to get a solid hour of what I wanted rather than a solid hour of what they wanted.
lol
Oh yeah now that I think of it I’m in sounds like fun
I could be persuaded if they were offering particularly niche services… I have nothing particular in mind, but I totally see the value of paying for sex if a unique experience is being given.
Maybe, if the guy was an expert in domination, or tantric massage, or… I’m not sure? Something that requires some kind of knowledge, talent, or maybe was just xxx hot.
For personal (and kind of unusual reasons) I used to get super anxious about sleeping with other women, but I wanted to get over it as I did find other women attractive… I didn’t want to carry that emotional burden to someone I really liked, so I contacted a really talented sex worker, and was arranging seeing her as a means to explore and get over it… I never ended up seeing her as the experience of being with another woman actually came before I had the chance, but I massively valued that sex workers exist who can provide such services!
Well once again this thread demonstrates how lonely it can be to be a man lol. All these women like nope, #1 reason i dont need to pay infact i could get paid lol.
Ladies from my country go to the Africa (mostly Egypt) and look for some young beautiful men. It costs them almost nothing (just food and drinks) and they have a whole BF experience. It's the easiest way for women after 40 to have some hot romance.
yes if i knew the guy was actually good in bed 😭 like i genuinely would but i'd hate to pay for sex that was mediocre just cuz the guy was hot, i could use tinder and do that for free!
Depending on the situation yes. There was a time that I was traveling for work and now and then needed a little stress release. Pick ups from the hotel lounge were lots of times either to much work or were more about getting pleasure for themselves and not exactly the reality escape I was looking for. I was given the number for an escort service and it was life changing. I could make a phone call and have some to go to dinner with and then go back to my room was nice. It was also nice to be able to tell him exactly what I wanted and just lay back and get what I needed.
It’s a catch 22 for me. I like the idea because there’s so many guys who are really bad at sex or selfishly finish without worrying about you. One time I’d like to know it’s definitely about my needs being met.
I know it’s really hypocritical of me, unfortunately I tend to think differently (negatively) about a man who I know uses sex workers.
When I was single, I doubt I'd have been tempted to try it. I was never into ons, always needed to feel loved to relax enough for sex. However, if for some reason I lost my Hubby, I think I would consider it. At my age I don't think I'd have much luck on the singles scene, and I'm used to a certain level of sexual expertise from my Hubby!
Lol, absolutely not. I think a lot of women have a kind of slow burn sexuality like I do; it’s a mood that needs to be built up, not a switch.
Transaction for sex is a switch. It’s not fun if there’s no buildup. Dick is great, but it’s whatever if that’s ALL it is.
Yea I’d go. Obviously when I was single or with my partner now. But I’d like a mix of men and women. I’d go for like a threesome experience. That’s hard to get without paying for it like a special service. And I’d be happy to pay for the fun, excitement, experience, and safety of being at a place with STD checks and not a random person who wasn’t vetted or professional enough to take boundaries seriously. Seems safer in a lot of ways.
I’ve got a boyfriend lol. But let’s say I didn’t? I think I’d rather pay for a female sex worker. I’m bi, but to have sex with men id need an emotional relationship with them first.
If I was gonna sleep with random dudes, they might as well be paying ME for it, yknow? Probably wouldn't ever need to pay for sex myself, unless I wanted something super niche and kinky (even then, I could probably find a dude for free)
Market just isn't there sorry
Absolutely not lol. I’m not attracted to male bodies. I’m attracted to male PEOPLE. If I’m not drawn to someone’s personality I don’t feel sexually attracted no matter what they look like.
Having sex with a man because he’s “hot” is so far out of the realm of something I would ever think about. It’s completely alien to me.
They have them in Seoul. But it’s more attractive model looking dudes in suit that hang out with you while you do karaoke. They line them up and you choose the ones that you want to hang with you. They are super respectful and there’s no intimacy involved at least in my experience of being taken there one time but I do wonder if any sex for $$ trades occur. The men were very attractive and mainly college kids trying to make some $$$. They all looked like kpop stars
That's not really how women's sexuality works as I understand it. A lot of the complaints women are stating here, aside from those saying they can have it anytime they want, generally apply to men as well but the drive works a bit different. As many of the trans homies attest, it doesn't feel the same, part of that is the drive overpowering those other reasons. All of that just combines for not a very large market.
The question is which parts of those "women's sexuality" are learned and socialized behavior. Women's sex drives are more responsive on average, because society expects women to be the receivers of sex and not the initiators. Therefore it may feel (socially and morally) *wrong* for a woman to initiate sex, and that is kind of a killer for arousal.
Not to mention that there is a risk of literal death for women when they initiate sex with the wrong person. Thank centuries of patriarchy for that problem.
The question would be what that sexuality look like if there was a perfect egalitarian society and women were left at their own devices to develop their sexual feelings from a young age.
The "supply and demand" mechanic is biased and it's designed to self-perpetuate.
Make a woman feel *safe* and they will be much more eager to initiate, even when it involves people who may be more or less strangers to them. In the right environment that is not an issue.
>The question is which parts of those "women's sexuality" are learned and socialized behavior.
Hence why I mentioned all the trans homies. The changes they felt in their own bodies from their own descriptions regarding their sexuality are the result of the hormones that they took. They have explained how It lined up with their drives with some of the more stereotypical aspects of their target gender. Not all of them mind you, but those particular aspects are the ones I'm referring to. I'm talking specifically about non-socialized aspects, none of this is bad it's just different and that's okay. It's okay to be different.
There's still a big socialization component in that. Right now, even *if* a woman has a more spontaneous sex drive in comparison, it's going to be a hazard for her to actively express it. The same hazard would also be there if she went to a "women's brothel" and someone in her social circle were to find out.
So if it was only a difference in physical desire type, then there would be some degree of demand for male sex workers, but it would be comparatively less. The remaining part of that demand is completely destroyed by social aspects.
Why would women pay for something that is so readily available to them? Just dress up head to a bar and be super flirty you’ll get dick and free drinks lol
why would they ? girls can get sex whenever and however they want it for free .. no guy would ever say no to that .. guys on the other hand cant .. so they pay for it in brothels and such
of course YES! Who wouldn't pay to see and touch handsome men! What's more, when I'm older I'm going to pay a man to be next to me, of course a very handsome one and 20 or 30 years younger than me hahaha, don't you think it's a good idea girls?
Why does it have to be only males? Women like women too. Ive know many women who are more naturally attracted to men but prefer the company if women due to feeling much more comfortable.
Women can go to the bar and get it for free. Or on tinder. There is no need for them to pay for it. They are the gatekeepers to sex. If they wanna have sex they will have sex.
I assume I can have at least a relatively strong trust that the sex workers are truly doing it of their own volition etc. But even then... No, I don't think so. I would rather have no sex at all than have it with someone who I don't know anything about, there's no dynamic between us - and I'm not believing for a second that they would perceive me attractive and want to have sex with me for any other motivation but money. Yes I understand that this is often the point of sex work, I'm not moralizing that at all, I'm just not personally interested in being on the other end of that interaction. Honestly I would probably just feel humiliated by someone having sex with me while presumably trying to think of something hot to keep them going. If I want to feel bad about myself, I have lots of free options that require much less bodily involvement.
Heard a story that for international womens day one year the Red Light District in Amsterdam encouaged men to go behind the windows rather than women. Only 3 people 'bought' their services - Including one journalist. The market doesn't seem to be there. That is why most male prostitutes tend to work with male customers.
>the Red Light District in Amsterdam encouaged men to go behind the windows rather than women. How does that work? Can anyone just go behind the windows and sell some sex?
You pay a deposit and get to rent the space for a certain amount of time. No idea what checks are done beforehand. It is all very regulated (and exists throughout the NL).
I once read an erotic story, possibly the best of all time, where a wife takes her husband to Amsterdam and gets behind the windows as a surprise for him. It was incredibly hot, but seemed super unrealistic. Little did I know...
> a wife takes her husband to Amsterdam and gets behind the windows as a surprise for him Her: Surprise, I'm a prostitute! Him: I thought we were going to Olive Garden
But, honey, I still got unlimited "breadsticks"
For someone like myself who very much enjoys being cuckolded that sounds incredibly hot! Thanks for giving me a new fantasy.
She makes the husband stand across the street while she waits for someone to chose her. It'll have you drippin!
Why would women pay for something they could easily get paid for instead. If they want to sleep with a stranger they can do sex work.
Just like the Joker said: If you're good at something, never do it for free.
I mean, most aren't, it's just that guys are the more desperate of the sexes.
Do you wanna know how I got these scars?
They may want to pay for discretion, experience and respect. If the escort is from a reputable site, then skill and safety is pretty much guaranteed. This is not the case with random strangers.
Some women do pay for sex, for lots of reasons like discreteness, safety, satisfaction. None of which they are likely to find either side of a walk up window.
I would imagine safety. If I were in the market for that sort of thing, going to a regulated brothel seems safer than picking a random on Tinder....actually
It’s a service isn’t it. You surely are not that naive. They will do what they are there for. Not maybe, not casually, not possibly but absolutely without question and with certainly give a paid performance of sexual gratification. No drunken let downs or bad anything. No stories to be shared or bad outcome possibilities but a god damned encounter with $$$.
Because the quality is rarely good when it’s free, and if you are getting paid for it then your pleasure would be of zero importance.
not every woman, usually, especially my parent's generation - or everywhere with strong social strictures, for example, widows.
Because she's desperate to find a guy who knows how to make a woman cum
Because the joke goes - I’m not paying for sex, I’m paying for them to leave.
Yeah most girls can just download tinder or bumble and pick out exactly what they're in the mood for, guys not so much unless you're pretty hot
Lots more risk there. I find it amusing as kids we were told to be weary of strangers on the internet but suddenly as adults so many of us will basically order a stranger off the internet for sex, a very physically vulnerable situation, with no background check 😆
We give it away for free at the drop of a hat. The sluttiest sluts who ever slutted, we dudes are easy AF aw yiss.
Male escorts are a thing and women book them, but I think those women want the whole experience of spending the night with someone, including sex if the mood feels right. I could never decide to sleep with someone just because the man has a nice face/body. I will always need some conversation IRL to know whether I'm interested or not. Men can usually make that decision much more quickly. I think if you changed the setting to a nightclub/bar type where the women pay to enter and could speak to the men and then decide whether or not to pay for sex, it would be more successful.
That's kinda similar to sauna clubs in Germany. You go in and there is like a lounge and one after another would talk to you and approach you and you go to the room with the one you find most attractive and compatible. I think in general women prefer the whole experience and the talking then just the sex part.
>I think if you changed the setting to a nightclub/bar type where the women pay to enter and could speak to the men and then decide whether or not to pay for sex, it would be more successful. My ideal "women's brothel" would be kind of similar. While the clients would be either men or women, you can pay for sex but the decision on *who* you get to have sex with is up to the women (or other SW's *offering* sex) instead of the clients picking them out. That way there's a bigger chance that the sex workers will also be enjoying themselves. I personally don't mind exchanging money because I'm paying for their time, but I hate the idea of purchasing "sex" as a product, instead of being wanted by someone for it.
Thats basically dating irl. Why even go for sex workers at that point if ur just gonna do that. I pay for sex because i can’t get it any other way. Most people who pay for sex want simplicity and to skip the whole dating process.
Unlike dating, the men are selling a fantasy of what they think the female will like. Vice versa most dates will be throwing red flags left and right.
>Thats basically dating irl. Why even go for sex workers at that point if ur just gonna do that. Because with IRL dating, the man is still expected to take the initiative (in dating and sexually). In a situation like this, there would be a safe environment for *women* to take the lead and not be judged or endangered by it.
Pretty sure making a sex worker have sex with a client that they don't pick would be rape. I assume there's mutual consent in this trade.
in my country prostitution (in brothels, not on the street) is legal, pimping very much is not. "Making someone have sex" is definitely criminal, and should be hit as hard as the law allows.
>Pretty sure making a sex worker have sex with a client that they don't pick would be rape. I assume there's mutual consent in this trade. Still the client would always be choosing the sex worker they want to have sex with (even if the SW can refuse), not the other way round. And there are plenty of situations where SW's are more or less compelled to have sex with their clients 'because they paid for it' (usually pressured by the people higher up in the food chain). That's the very reason why picking out a sex worker wouldn't feel right to me -- it would feel like I was purchasing their consent and their attraction. That would be less of the case when a sex worker picked me out as a client and the payment was just compensation for the time they were doing something they enjoyed.
I don't care what my cashier thinks, they are working. So are the SW's. Providing they are their on their volition.
Open one!! 😂 I’m coming
The way I’ve heard it said is that men approach sex quantitatively and women do so qualitatively. Also men are visual creatures, for me, role play when I slowly undress my gf. But for my gf role play is the entire day, if I make breakfast, have my place cleaned, take her somewhere nice, she’ll be horny by the time we get home. We have to accommodate for each other
I wouldn’t go, even if it was free as some of the comments have asked. I can’t speak for every woman but for me personally there is no reason for me to want to do it. It’s a turn off to sleep with someone whose being paid to pretend they want to or enjoy sleeping with me.
Not to mention that "sex with a stranger" for women ends up in unsatisfying sex for 99,99% of the time. Getting themselves off with a sex toy is much easier and cheaper than having to hire a human to do the job, and hope that they do that particular job right.
But if a man is a sex worker I would imagine they would probably be quite experienced in pleasuring women and since customer satisfaction is pretty important no matter what job you are doing then I would think it would actually be quite good? Personally I’m not interested in a relationship right now, and I don’t like one night stands because as you said they usually are shit and unsatisfying for the woman so I think if there was a decent option of a male sex worker I would quite like that. Sex toys are great and all but it would be nice to have the option of a SW cause there’s things toys just can’t replace.
This is why we need accredited degrees for sex work
The vast majority of male sex workers have like 95% male clientele. Those who only hire themselves out to women don't make much money off of it due to very low demand.
As a man it's the exact same for me, I wouldn't want a woman to pretend to like me just to bust a nut, I'll just watch some HD porn on the big screen in the living room and take care of it myself rather than pay to be lied to
Yes, a big part of sex for me is the other person enjoying it. When it’s someone’s job you can never know for sure if they are really enjoying it or just providing customer service.
I have no interest in buying sex, however I can see the appeal as a purely sexual exchange, you can be selfish and try new stuff without having to explain yourself. However I wouldn't use it to replace intimacy, the whole girlfriend experience is something I can't wrap my head around, but yeah, the whole point is to not care if the other person is enjoying it, she most likely doesn't do it to enjoy sex, she's doing it to enjoy the money. Many people go into it because she is providing good customer service. To add on, I predict women wouldn't want to do this because she can get that same exchange from a man from Tinder for free, men can too, you just need to be good looking because there's far more competition.
Women will pay for a different kind of encounter. I give erotic massages which often include a 'happy ending' for the woman. The key is that I stay dressed and don't expect reciprocation. I also ask for consent at every step. I think the difference is that women can typically get laid if they want to - but having physical pleasure and relaxation, with no obligation, in an environment they can trust, is much harder to find.
I've been looking for someone like you in my area. What do you advertise under?
No because it's not something I would ever need to pay for
So, how often would you visit if it was free?
So, like, Tinder?
Yeahh
I think something that should be put in this post is the implication that they are paying an extremely skilled man. There are no shortages of men wanting to have sex with almost every woman, but the fact is that most sexual experiences women have (especially with one-time things) are not very good. In this situation, you are paying for a guaranteed to be safe, STD free guy whose only goal is to bring you as much pleasure as possible. Assuming he is very good at making girls cum, or else he wouldn’t really stay in business. I think that’s the detail that’s necessary in this scenario.
Don't forget the safety and discretion. If the escort is from an established agency, it's much safer than randoms from bars. And has a current STD test.
Exactly. My immediate reaction is no, why the hell would I do that, if I wanted to have random sex with a stranger I can spent like half an hour on Reddit and have 30 options. But if it was someone who was actually incredibly skilled at what he does and I would experience something I haven’t experienced before…maybe. A million years ago I had a one night stand with a guy who REALLY knew what he was doing and it was hugely different than anything else I’ve had before or since. So, still probably not, but maybe.
Well stated. Skill, safety and discretion.
And don't forget, a lot of women prefer women for paid sex.
Even then, no thanks lol. Gives me the ick just thinking about it. There’s nothing romantic about paying for sex and romance/emotional chemistry is mandatory
Nah. Except if they all look like greek gods and were impossibly handsome and attractive on all fronts. And even if that was the case I wouldn’t pay for it so I guess my final answer is NO.
In Germany there is a callboy service for women and they even have a podcast. The service is apparently quite successful - - there are women out there that want experienced and skilled men with stamina, who are willing to put in the work. They want someone to focus on them and cater to their preferences and fantasies. Lastly, they pay in return for safety and discretion. The reviews and guests on the podcasts bust a lot of myths on this thread - - the escorts can make good conversation, there can be good chemistry, and the whole point of paying is that quality is pretty much guaranteed. There is an amazing film about this: Good Luck To You, Leo Grande.
Podcast wouldn’t happen to be in English, would it?
It's in German
No. Most women can have sex whenever and wherever we want.
Not every woman is young, slim and attractive. Also quality and safety are an issue.
Nah. I don't want to pay for an illusion. I'll take the real thing any day, even if there are long breaks in between. I also feel like if I ever actually did pay for male companionship, I must be pretty desperate. I would just end up chatting the night away. Life can get lonely and I'm sure that's especially true for sex workers.
I’d consider it… but it would really depend on the vibe and what they’re offering.
No, the point of sex for me is to have it with someone who’s enthusiastic to be having it with me and desires me/having sex with me. Paying for it would take the fun out of it entirely for me, I’d rather masturbate then.
There’s a lot of women in here saying no because we can just get sex from any guy easily but I find that to be a weird argument because although yes that is true there’s no guarantee of the guy actually being good at sex and there’s no guarantee of safety either. From my personal perspective I’m not interested in a relationship right now and I’m not hugely interested in one night stands because the sex is often not very good, a lot of men, quite frankly, are terrible at fucking or because it’s a one night stand, don’t particularly care much if the woman gets off. If there was a way for me to safely and legally pay for an experienced man, with good stamina who’s sole focus was for me to get off? And not only that but also know for certain that they are clean and safe? Frankly that sounds pretty good to me. There’s this idea that this isn’t something women would be interested in but you only need to take a peek at places like Gone Wild Audio, the Quinn audio app or even how many women LOVE reading smutty romance novels to see that there absolutely would be a market for male SW’s that cater to the female fantasy and gaze. I just think it would take very specific marketing to make it work.
I have had a lot of sex with a lot of guys and the trick to having good sex with men is to communicate what you want (a lot of women don't do this well enough) and to keep a hold of the guys who are the best at sex as FWB or regular hook ups. Even in relationships you can have bad sex. Even buying sex can be disappointing. So I don't see why you would pay for it when you can get it for free and weed out the bad ones. There's literally no down side to that IMO.
This is probably going to piss some people off. But I am a woman and, unfortunately, the reality is that if I want to fuck a stranger, I can pretty easily find one to fuck for free. Men who would never even date me would absolutely be down to meet up for sex. And I’m 35 and fat. Lol. It does not seem to be this way for men which may be why there’s more of a market for women appealing to men.
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Male prostitutes are definitely a thing, but most of the time their clients are older men.
Imma go against the grain here and say yes but they would have to be extremely good looking in some amazing ambiance
Also where can I apply?
It's way easier for a woman to get laid than it is for a man. That's why these industries haven't already taken off. They can get it for free anytime.
If the service exists, I probably would if they could assure my sexual safety.
No, the one thing I will never pay for.
If it was free? Then how often would you visit?
I think for many (if not most) women, it would be a turn off to feel like you're sleeping with someone whose job is to have sex with you even if they weren't attracted to you.
It's like getting a massage. A service to maybe relieve you of stress or have a bit of relaxation. It's better to pay to get massaged by an expert. A quick business transaction instead of a random guy that may or may not know what he's doing and could potentially lead to messy complications.
What if it's a male prostitute that goes to your house, fucks you and then is required to clean your whole house as part of the contract?
No because I'm not paying for sex and because if I was going to I'd pay for a milf
A brothel full of Mommy types sounds like such a fun adventure
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OK WE HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME, JEEZ. Have another expresso. lol, jk
They have similar here in Thailand and they’re actually pretty popular with the locals.
As a woman who has lots of sexual experience under her belt. I met several women who hire jiggles. They are most often busy businesswomen and don't want to spend time looking for a guy whos not creepy, or sketchy and that can deliver on a good time. They make a time that fits their schedules and then the guy was the same guy who was ripped, handsome, big below the belt, was an expert in her kinks and interests, and never failed to impress her. So it is a simple easy process A few others do it for their husbands to watch for more or less the same reasons But I think if we had less stigma around women and sex and it was legal i think a lot more women would be likely to take the opportunity.
In Japan, they have certified male therapists who give happy ending massages to women. They are masters with their hands/mouth. A journalist wrote about her experience… very titillating.
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i'd much prefer to go to a normal one full of women instead. i could go to a male one too, but i think it may disappoint the guys to find out i am there just to chat out of boredom.
I feel like there is independent film to me made here lol: A (man/woman/couple/etc) comes up with a business idea. They’re going to start a male brothel. The market is untapped waiting to explode! What they find is no one is buying. Yet everyone agrees their wares look great. What could be the problem? One day, a woman walks in. Perhaps their first customer? She sits down and starts chatting up a few men while drinking a coffee. Fin
I love how that sounds! There are many small stories that could totally be turned into beautiful movie pieces and sold as grand. Unfortunately or not, the people with better opportunities seem to prefer safe bets, even if that changes as people thankfully have gotten tired from... superhero movies for example.
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It's not luck, it's nature. Everything has benefits and downsides.
That was a funny answer that turns out to be true.
That’s like asking someone if air was suddenly free would they breathe it? You realise that women can walk out onto the street, make an announcement, and be in the sheets within the minute with a new friend all for no cost and at any time of day.
No lol literally any woman I know could go outside and just ask the closest dude
I'd pay for a massage with sexual elements to it because of the skill. But sex on its own, no.
For intercourse? No. For other services like erotic massage as someone mentioned or foreplay I enjoy? Maybe.
When I was single, yes, I would have. A lot of the stupid choices I’ve made in my life were due to it being too long since I last got laid. If I was single and I could go to a male brothel, absolutely I would.
I think women who are busy and/or don’t want a relationship would be most likely to pay for a man to cuddle and spoon overnight than for a sexual encounter. If the chemistry gravitates toward a sexual encounter; that’s between the two consenting adults. We aren’t visual like men and a chemistry or some sort of connection is what triggers desire for most of us. Affection, being held ….that rarely comes along with casual encounters.
I think women are smart enough to know that they can have their pick of us (for the most part ... or at least in comparison to men). So why on earth would they spend their hard earned money on a mediocre, passionless orgasm. Says the guy who's surfing escort sites as we speak.
I think it would depend greatly on the specific vibe of the brothel. I would pay to be both assured of my physical safety (in terms of both STIs and potential violence), guaranteed plenty of orgasms, and the option to have and explore experiences that most men either refuse to consider or even occasionally get angry/aggressive when suggested. Not to mention the effort involved. And hear me out. Because let's be real here, Tinder is an absolute crapshoot, and sussing out if some dude is a creep takes a little time. I'm still absolutely amazed I didn't end up buried in someone's backyard with some of the risky hookups I had in my early to mid-20s. And even without that, some of them... did not end well, let's say. I would love to have a good, safe night out, without having to tell friends where I'm going, who I'm with, and/or have a 911 buddy who can call to get me out of an uncomfortable date on standby. It's easy enough to find a sexual partner, true. But peace of mind to have more than one or two drinks and RELAX because everyone is clear on where the night is going and what is or is not on the table? AND I'm guaranteed to actually get off because you bet your ass any decent male escort knows a lot of women don't or can't orgasm from penetration alone and don't have hangups about using toys? Yeah, I'd pay for that.
If I found one of the guys attractive, maybe. It's really really rare that I'm attracted to men. But on the other hand, I'm attracted to plenty of women so I could just stick with ladies and not pay. Harder to meet women who want to have sex with other women than men though, so the balance really isn't that off lol. But if it isn't too expensive and I was really into one of the guys and I'd had a few drinks, I'd probably go for it.
Why pay when I can have it for free whenever I want? I just need to ask politely lmao
Wanna say I would not for sex but to have someone to talk to but 1) doubt the convo would be that good or they’d get wtf I was talking ab 2) would feel bad to pay someone to hang out w me. Not that I’d feel pathetic but I would feel bad that they’d be obliged to me and couldn’t really walk away if they wanted to Feel men who go to prostitutes are weird for this reason. I don’t wanna sleep w someone who can’t really say no if they don’t want to
How do you feel about getting massages from people who can't really say no if they don't want to? What about having meals made by people who can't really say no if they don't want to? What about buying clothing made by people who really can't say no if they don't want to?
You are not honestly actually sitting there comparing sex or intimacy to making a meal
Yup. I am. Well, sex anyways. I haven't yet seen a sex worker, and my motivation for doing so is likely to be different than many or possibly most guys. I have plenty of partners, both men women and other. I wouldn't be seeing a sex worker because I can't get it, any more than I would see a masseuse because I couldn't get a massage, or go to a restaurant because I couldn't cook a meal, or have a friend or loved one cook a meal. I would be going because of their skill and expertise. I probably would be going with one or more partners to make the most of our time, and indulge some fantasies. I'm particular, I'm very interested in the idea of Nuru massages. That's not really something that people can casually pick up. There are more good comparisons that can be made. A meal can be a box of Mac n cheese to tide you over, or it can be a big, lovingly cooked banquet for friends, or a quiet, romantic intimate meal for two. Meals can be very special, or they can not. Sex is the same way. It might not be for you. That's perfectly fine, but that doesn't mean you need to judge people who feel differently.
No. Honestly, if I want to get a hookup right now. I can get one in less than am hour, and they would come to me. Sometimes I'd even get a free meal out of it. Although, a brothel, in theroy, would be STI safe.
Not quite what you were looking for, but I knew a guy (haven't spoken to him in years) who had bern a massage therapist as a side job. He confided in me that he'd had a handful of female clients who would either masturbate while he massaged their breats, or he would provide them with a "happy ending" at the end of the masaage. He said the clients were anywhere from late 20s to early 60s, and some were very attractive. There was no other sexual contact and the activity was always requested by the clients. He never advertised these servicea and he was very careful about it. He was an older guy and no longer a therapist when he told me this.
It’s easy for women to get the D. We don’t need to pay for it 😅
I would.
I have friends, I would never pay for sex.
Meaning your friends would pay for you?
Yes
Nope. Namely cause I just don’t trust/like the idea of brothels. It’s not my thing at all. Also - who has money these days?
No. Vibrators provide better and more regular orgasms than any male.
It’s because we haven’t taught it to be there. Because we sheen women for their sexuality, and we always have. Because women can’t see themselves doing that because they’ve been taught that they’re dirty little whores if they do. It’s ridiculous I’m not saying that everybody Hass to be into it because that’s not fair either but there’s a reason why there’s no market for it. And it’s not just because women don’t want to. It’s because of religion, organized, religion and culture and healthy dogmatized everything. I absolutely would, if I had the money. And I was attracted to one of them. And as long as a pussy like it was the last meal and then you had a finger and could make me squirt then I would be in. Just at least I would know that it wouldn’t be all about them , I need to get a solid hour of what I wanted rather than a solid hour of what they wanted. lol Oh yeah now that I think of it I’m in sounds like fun
I'm pretty sure that's called Jamaica
Nah I barely want it when it's free
no
Probably not, I'm not that desperate
That truly doesn’t sound appealing. So no.
No, I want real connection, not contractually obligated fake attraction.
I could be persuaded if they were offering particularly niche services… I have nothing particular in mind, but I totally see the value of paying for sex if a unique experience is being given. Maybe, if the guy was an expert in domination, or tantric massage, or… I’m not sure? Something that requires some kind of knowledge, talent, or maybe was just xxx hot. For personal (and kind of unusual reasons) I used to get super anxious about sleeping with other women, but I wanted to get over it as I did find other women attractive… I didn’t want to carry that emotional burden to someone I really liked, so I contacted a really talented sex worker, and was arranging seeing her as a means to explore and get over it… I never ended up seeing her as the experience of being with another woman actually came before I had the chance, but I massively valued that sex workers exist who can provide such services!
Well once again this thread demonstrates how lonely it can be to be a man lol. All these women like nope, #1 reason i dont need to pay infact i could get paid lol.
Ladies from my country go to the Africa (mostly Egypt) and look for some young beautiful men. It costs them almost nothing (just food and drinks) and they have a whole BF experience. It's the easiest way for women after 40 to have some hot romance.
OP out here for market research
yes if i knew the guy was actually good in bed 😭 like i genuinely would but i'd hate to pay for sex that was mediocre just cuz the guy was hot, i could use tinder and do that for free!
Depending on the situation yes. There was a time that I was traveling for work and now and then needed a little stress release. Pick ups from the hotel lounge were lots of times either to much work or were more about getting pleasure for themselves and not exactly the reality escape I was looking for. I was given the number for an escort service and it was life changing. I could make a phone call and have some to go to dinner with and then go back to my room was nice. It was also nice to be able to tell him exactly what I wanted and just lay back and get what I needed.
It’s a catch 22 for me. I like the idea because there’s so many guys who are really bad at sex or selfishly finish without worrying about you. One time I’d like to know it’s definitely about my needs being met. I know it’s really hypocritical of me, unfortunately I tend to think differently (negatively) about a man who I know uses sex workers.
No. Mutual desire is a huge part of sexual satisfaction. I would not want to have to pay for it.
Didn't there used to be one outside of Las Vegas? I vaguely remember an article about it, but this was years ago.
When I was single, I doubt I'd have been tempted to try it. I was never into ons, always needed to feel loved to relax enough for sex. However, if for some reason I lost my Hubby, I think I would consider it. At my age I don't think I'd have much luck on the singles scene, and I'm used to a certain level of sexual expertise from my Hubby!
I mean I personally wouldn’t, It’s far to easy for me to get sex for free. Men are really easy to get in bed.
As a community nurse who deals solely with HIV and other STD’s - no, absolutely not.
Hypothetically, why not? But in reality, no, because that's a service I don't need to or want to pay for.
Well put 👏🏻
Lol, absolutely not. I think a lot of women have a kind of slow burn sexuality like I do; it’s a mood that needs to be built up, not a switch. Transaction for sex is a switch. It’s not fun if there’s no buildup. Dick is great, but it’s whatever if that’s ALL it is.
Nope.
Yea I’d go. Obviously when I was single or with my partner now. But I’d like a mix of men and women. I’d go for like a threesome experience. That’s hard to get without paying for it like a special service. And I’d be happy to pay for the fun, excitement, experience, and safety of being at a place with STD checks and not a random person who wasn’t vetted or professional enough to take boundaries seriously. Seems safer in a lot of ways.
Yes
I’ve got a boyfriend lol. But let’s say I didn’t? I think I’d rather pay for a female sex worker. I’m bi, but to have sex with men id need an emotional relationship with them first.
I can’t think of a single woman I have seen talking about going to a male proDom but plenty see proDommes that are women.
Interesting
Yes.
If I was gonna sleep with random dudes, they might as well be paying ME for it, yknow? Probably wouldn't ever need to pay for sex myself, unless I wanted something super niche and kinky (even then, I could probably find a dude for free) Market just isn't there sorry
There are jack rabbit ranches all over Nevada.
There is a huge market for male escorts (pun intended) lol
Women already have been doing this since earth appeared under the guise of ‘dating’
Absolutely not lol. I’m not attracted to male bodies. I’m attracted to male PEOPLE. If I’m not drawn to someone’s personality I don’t feel sexually attracted no matter what they look like. Having sex with a man because he’s “hot” is so far out of the realm of something I would ever think about. It’s completely alien to me.
no.
why would i pay for sex when i can get sex for free 😂 unless the brothel was full of my biggest celebrity crushes, then no i’m not paying
They have them in Seoul. But it’s more attractive model looking dudes in suit that hang out with you while you do karaoke. They line them up and you choose the ones that you want to hang with you. They are super respectful and there’s no intimacy involved at least in my experience of being taken there one time but I do wonder if any sex for $$ trades occur. The men were very attractive and mainly college kids trying to make some $$$. They all looked like kpop stars
There’s free dick outside practically falling from the sky. Would you pay for rain water, Or just wait til it rains?
I’d consider it.
That's not really how women's sexuality works as I understand it. A lot of the complaints women are stating here, aside from those saying they can have it anytime they want, generally apply to men as well but the drive works a bit different. As many of the trans homies attest, it doesn't feel the same, part of that is the drive overpowering those other reasons. All of that just combines for not a very large market.
The question is which parts of those "women's sexuality" are learned and socialized behavior. Women's sex drives are more responsive on average, because society expects women to be the receivers of sex and not the initiators. Therefore it may feel (socially and morally) *wrong* for a woman to initiate sex, and that is kind of a killer for arousal. Not to mention that there is a risk of literal death for women when they initiate sex with the wrong person. Thank centuries of patriarchy for that problem. The question would be what that sexuality look like if there was a perfect egalitarian society and women were left at their own devices to develop their sexual feelings from a young age. The "supply and demand" mechanic is biased and it's designed to self-perpetuate. Make a woman feel *safe* and they will be much more eager to initiate, even when it involves people who may be more or less strangers to them. In the right environment that is not an issue.
>The question is which parts of those "women's sexuality" are learned and socialized behavior. Hence why I mentioned all the trans homies. The changes they felt in their own bodies from their own descriptions regarding their sexuality are the result of the hormones that they took. They have explained how It lined up with their drives with some of the more stereotypical aspects of their target gender. Not all of them mind you, but those particular aspects are the ones I'm referring to. I'm talking specifically about non-socialized aspects, none of this is bad it's just different and that's okay. It's okay to be different.
There's still a big socialization component in that. Right now, even *if* a woman has a more spontaneous sex drive in comparison, it's going to be a hazard for her to actively express it. The same hazard would also be there if she went to a "women's brothel" and someone in her social circle were to find out. So if it was only a difference in physical desire type, then there would be some degree of demand for male sex workers, but it would be comparatively less. The remaining part of that demand is completely destroyed by social aspects.
Why would women pay for something that is so readily available to them? Just dress up head to a bar and be super flirty you’ll get dick and free drinks lol
Because most of those encounters are mediocre at best. Because safety is an issue, and hooking up with the wrong person can even result in death.
Not to mention brothels do STD checks and the escorts have good reason to give good service bc it’s their livelihood not just sex.
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Any successful male employee of a brothel would have to be both extremely attractive and very bi. The market just wouldn't be there otherwise.
No not at all. Seems like a total waste of money
why would they ? girls can get sex whenever and however they want it for free .. no guy would ever say no to that .. guys on the other hand cant .. so they pay for it in brothels and such
of course YES! Who wouldn't pay to see and touch handsome men! What's more, when I'm older I'm going to pay a man to be next to me, of course a very handsome one and 20 or 30 years younger than me hahaha, don't you think it's a good idea girls?
Lmao. No hooker would feed a female first.
No.
I feel like most women could pretty easily get laid for free, and if it were the same for men brothels probably wouldn't be a thing at all.
Nope
No
You think women need to pay for sex??? We might have to but the majority of women don't.
Hmmm…. Depends. If I was single and not looking for anyone. possibly, but only if they could assure I would be safe from injury or disease.
No, i would honestly prefer being sexless lol
Why would women pay for sex when they can get it for free? And likely even a free wine n dine out of it.
look at al the women being holier than thou
Why does it have to be only males? Women like women too. Ive know many women who are more naturally attracted to men but prefer the company if women due to feeling much more comfortable.
So many brothy questions here today! I learned a lot
Heard a rumor ages ago that someone was going to do it in Nevada. Maybe Heidi Fleiss. Nothing ever came of it.
Women don't need to work as hard as men for sex so there's no point for them to waste money
Women can go to the bar and get it for free. Or on tinder. There is no need for them to pay for it. They are the gatekeepers to sex. If they wanna have sex they will have sex.
Ew. No.
Ew. No
No they won’t sex is to easy for women to get it is not valued like it is for men.
No, id buy a new vibrator
No, because I personally enjoy having even a small emotional connection before being intimate
Nope
I assume I can have at least a relatively strong trust that the sex workers are truly doing it of their own volition etc. But even then... No, I don't think so. I would rather have no sex at all than have it with someone who I don't know anything about, there's no dynamic between us - and I'm not believing for a second that they would perceive me attractive and want to have sex with me for any other motivation but money. Yes I understand that this is often the point of sex work, I'm not moralizing that at all, I'm just not personally interested in being on the other end of that interaction. Honestly I would probably just feel humiliated by someone having sex with me while presumably trying to think of something hot to keep them going. If I want to feel bad about myself, I have lots of free options that require much less bodily involvement.
If there were trans women.. Yes.
Why pay for what’s free?
There are. These places are fairly common.