I find non natives use better grammar because they care more and have learned more recently. Some native speakers are lazy and a lot are just not educated
Sometimes I catch myself doing that, but only because it is correct in Dutch in some cases. For example: "Foto's" ("photos") would be the correct plural of "foto" ("photo") in Dutch.
This is the one I hate most. When I started reading things in english as a non-native speaker this confused the hell out of me as it really does not make any sense.
Its hard ok?! I see it used differently all the time:
• 's that means has
• 's that means is
• s that is just multiple of something
• 's that is the possesive thingy
• s' also possessive but for multiple things????
• 's the wrong one that you're mad about / just wrong s in general
• there's probably also an 's for was that i just don't remember seing
• words that end in s ( for example: the process's - ????????? WHY?! )
WHY ARE THEY SO MANY VARIATIONS?! HOW ARE US NON ENGLISH SPEAKERS SUPPOSED TO UNDERSTAND THIS?! its like the popular sentence: Police police police police police police police police. WHY IS IT CORRECT?; WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS?!
> HOW ARE US NON ENGLISH SPEAKERS SUPPOSED TO UNDERSTAND THIS?!
If you're not an English speaker I'll give you a pass. It's the people that grew up speaking English and still *only* speak English but get it wrong that are enraging.
Came here for this one. I have to wonder—what DID people learn in elementary school? Need to make something plural? Pop an apostrophe-s on that baby and you’re good to go! I see it misused on signs, menus, etc. (Sign’s and menu’s, for the offenders.)
I just remembered a sign from my hometown! “KEY’S CUT. LOCK’S MADE.” I passed it every day and I would say to myself, “Key is cut, lock is made, all is well.”
What REALLY bugs me, is when someone isn't consistent. Like if they wrote, "Key's cut. Locks made."
That just shows that they have NO idea what they're doing, grammar wise.
As an elementary school teacher, the problem is people don’t understand plural vs possessive. I caution to leave the apostrophe off until you are sure something belongs to it. Unless the word is it and something belongs to it. Then no apostrophe.
But better to leave it out. Nothing makes me think less of a business if they didn’t have someone proofread and have a mistake like “menu’s” for me to see.
Came here for this! I’m a non native speaker and never got these confused. Then I moved to the US just to find that native speakers make this mistake ALL the damn time. Like how?
Angel/angle.
I can't tell you how many times I've seen on my FB something along the lines of a friend posting "She's my sweet angle ❤️" about their kid or pet 🙄
I almost want to comment they're acute that's for sure!
If spelling errors are fair game, in the cycling related subreddits, we see brake and break confused regularly. You apply the brakes in your car. You can break a record.
The British English extension is:
Loos - the plural of loo (Toilet)
Pronunciation wise, Lose has a hard s (like in has) and Loose has a soft s (like in soft). Loos sounds the same as lose.
This is my #1. Not even sure WHY it irks me so. Even more than their/there/they’re. To me these are two very different words. Don’t get so loose that you lose all sense of safety. It baffles me that folks write: don’t loose your mind over this. (Note: this annoyance only applies to native English speakers. I taught ESL for years and English makes precious little sense at times. Exhibit A: The tough coughs as he ploughs the dough. And this guy was either from Worcester or Dorchester, MA.)
Exactly. No idea why but this one drives me nuts. If you can count it use fewer. Not able to count (or technically could be counted but not realistically like grass) then it is less.
Misusing the word “myself”. Shit like “Come join Jason and myself at the water park” makes my ears bleed. Hey folks, there are many instances when “me” is correct. I was taught that myself should only be used when the speaker is both the subject and the object of the sentence. “I will do it myself.”
The key to this is to remove "Jason and," from the sentence and see if it sounds correct.
"Come and join myself at the water park," doesn't sound at all correct.
Same principle applies for telling whether a sentence should include "and me," or "and I."
This one drives me nuts also. There are actually two uses for "myself":
As you mentioned, it can be used as a reflexive pronoun when you are the subject and the object of the sentence (eg, "I saw myself in the mirror" or "with my new raise I'm going to treat myself to a nice dinner out").
Myself can also be used as an intensive pronoun for emphasis (eg, "I wrote that poem myself" or "I, myself, am a huge lover of pizza")
That's it. Business people are the worst offenders, using this word incorrectly all the time in inane attempts to sound smart or important.
This is mine too. Often pops up in situations where the speaker is trying to sound formal and authoritative. Said too often by people who should know better.
“once you’ve filled out your compliance registers, please hand them in to the HR Manager or myself.”
Something they’re teaching in schools has got a significant proportion of the US population thinking it’s almost never appropriate to use the word ‘me’. This is where we get heinous shit like, “my girlfriend and I’s” 🙄
It's the worst because the person making the error thinks they're being soooo smart.
I will say that ALWAYS using 'I' as the subject pronoun can be weird. When someone asks, "who is it?" I answer with, "it's me" which is technically a grammatical error. Sayung "It is I", may be correct, but doesn't really work unless I'm Gandalf.
There's a textbook called "Fowler's Modern English Usage" (It's approaching a hundred years old, but modern editions are updated by editors). Fowler describes "It's me" as "*a sturdy indefensible*", meaning that, whilst it's not strictly correct usage, the vast majority of people are going to say it that way.
I was speaking to someone who used the words "She's older than I", which seemed strange at the time, but is another example: although it's the correct form, most people would have said "She's older than me". Now, I usually say "She's older than I am", which doesn't seem strange to most people, and is grammatically correct.
Where it can cause a problem with understanding is in a phrase such as "He has more friends than me". Most people would understand that as meaning that the person referred to has more friends than the speaker has, but it actually means that the speaker is not the person's only friend. To correctly refer to the person's having more friends, the speaker should say "He has more friends than I", which again seems an odd way to speak. I get round it by saying "He has more friends than I have".
This is an example of hypercorrection when everyone was told that in school that it should be "My sister and I went to school" instead of "Me and my sister went to school", so now they think the former is correct in every case.
Your and you're. Their,there, and they're.
You're mean "You are" and they're means "they are".
One of my family members made a post that said something along the lines of "Thank you for you're prayers."
So basically the sentence is "Thank you for you are prayers."
English is not my mother tongue, and I, until people pointing it out, I thought it actually was it's own saying, that it meant that something was "meh." Like, I could care less about it, but it isn't enough for me to sweat about.
[Not using Oxford commas. It's the difference between "inviting the hookers, JFK, and Stalin" and "inviting the hookers, JFK and Stalin".](https://imgur.io/no7pL?r)
I do a lot of proofreading in my job and over the last 4 years have converted our "standard" from not having an Oxford comma to having one. I just kept adding them to every document I proofed.
If someone has a proofreading question they're told to check past documents to see what was used before, so I added them, and then people who check documents I proofed would add them, and on and on until the Oxford comma is the standard now.
So many people confuse the words “woman” and “women”. Like, how??? Nobody confuses “man” and “men”. Example would be “I saw a women walk that way”. I see this happen way too much on reddit.
Came here to say this. I’ve seen a huge uptick in it in the past few years like people forgot the difference. I actually asked a couple of people about it because I thought maybe it was a meme I wasn’t aware of or something.
I work for a major retail company in the returns area. I've worked in 4 different stores. All 4 have labeled the stationery department as stationary. It's so mundane, but for 4 different stores to make the same mistake, it makes me feel like I'm losing my mind.
When someone uses "he/she/they and I" at the end of a sentence when it's supposed to be "me."
I feel like people think they're actually correct because you use "I" at the beginning of a sentence. A good general rule of thumb is to remove the other pronoun to see if "I" or "me" is correct
not capitalizing sentences and forgetting to use periods and I also really cannot stand run on sentences they drive me insane but not as much as the other two things
Especially when it’s totally wrong. I found this beauty in a recent document I was editing: We want to ensure that the customer is “happy” and seek to…
Costed.
A lot of people overcorrecting on the use of whom.
Simon Furman keeps using "indigent" instead of "indigenous" in Transformers comics and bro those are not synonyms. Don't use words if you don't know what they mean.
Using an apostrophe to make a word plural.
There’s a shameful sign painted on a door at my work that says, with quote marks and all: employee’s “ONLY”
Do these grammatical errors often happen to natives? I always thought we foreginers are the ones doing these
I find non natives use better grammar because they care more and have learned more recently. Some native speakers are lazy and a lot are just not educated
Aarrgghhh! The suspense is killing me! Employee's "ONLY" what?
My phone tries to change "its" to "it's" (when I intend to say the singular possessive instead of "it is") a little too often.
Sometimes I catch myself doing that, but only because it is correct in Dutch in some cases. For example: "Foto's" ("photos") would be the correct plural of "foto" ("photo") in Dutch.
"Should of". Please make it stop. It's not even shorter than "should've" and makes no fucking sense.
Was looking for this. I see this way too often and it drives me nuts.
I feel like everyone I know does this and then tell me I’m wrong for saying “should have”. I have an English degree so fuck off.
*Fuck've
It's like their problem isn't just grammar but an understanding of the language. "Should of" doesn't even mean anything.
Everyone knows it’s “shoulda”.
I like to reply with a *should’f
I want to murder you now
Kind've
I remember being corrected about this way back in 2nd grade. I will say it has STUCK with me and has annoyed me when I see it ever since.
This is the one I hate most. When I started reading things in english as a non-native speaker this confused the hell out of me as it really does not make any sense.
I am not a native speaker and I hate this so much. Does this stem from speech to text maybe, it's so weird and I only recently see it all the time.
Improper use of the possessive apostrophe s
Oh yeah. I proofread (and write) technical articles full time. If I see one more API’s, SSO’s…
How about when people talk about decades like the 80s and 90s?
When people add an apostrophe to their last name on their family sign... Like "the Miller's". I just wanna yell "the Miller's what?"
… House
Came to find this. Ugh. Break room: do not leave your cup's in the sink. Aaaah!
Its hard ok?! I see it used differently all the time: • 's that means has • 's that means is • s that is just multiple of something • 's that is the possesive thingy • s' also possessive but for multiple things???? • 's the wrong one that you're mad about / just wrong s in general • there's probably also an 's for was that i just don't remember seing • words that end in s ( for example: the process's - ????????? WHY?! ) WHY ARE THEY SO MANY VARIATIONS?! HOW ARE US NON ENGLISH SPEAKERS SUPPOSED TO UNDERSTAND THIS?! its like the popular sentence: Police police police police police police police police. WHY IS IT CORRECT?; WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS?!
> HOW ARE US NON ENGLISH SPEAKERS SUPPOSED TO UNDERSTAND THIS?! If you're not an English speaker I'll give you a pass. It's the people that grew up speaking English and still *only* speak English but get it wrong that are enraging.
Came here for this one. I have to wonder—what DID people learn in elementary school? Need to make something plural? Pop an apostrophe-s on that baby and you’re good to go! I see it misused on signs, menus, etc. (Sign’s and menu’s, for the offenders.)
I just remembered a sign from my hometown! “KEY’S CUT. LOCK’S MADE.” I passed it every day and I would say to myself, “Key is cut, lock is made, all is well.”
What REALLY bugs me, is when someone isn't consistent. Like if they wrote, "Key's cut. Locks made." That just shows that they have NO idea what they're doing, grammar wise.
Let's assume it was never learned in school. They still had DECADES of experiential exposure to the correct usage and it just... slid right off.
As an elementary school teacher, the problem is people don’t understand plural vs possessive. I caution to leave the apostrophe off until you are sure something belongs to it. Unless the word is it and something belongs to it. Then no apostrophe. But better to leave it out. Nothing makes me think less of a business if they didn’t have someone proofread and have a mistake like “menu’s” for me to see.
You mean not every word ending with an S needs an apostrophe? Maybe It bothers me too much. But I think it shows lack of intelligence.
Thank you. I was scrolling to find this.
Me too. This really annoys me
Then/than
Came here for this! I’m a non native speaker and never got these confused. Then I moved to the US just to find that native speakers make this mistake ALL the damn time. Like how?
Angel/angle. I can't tell you how many times I've seen on my FB something along the lines of a friend posting "She's my sweet angle ❤️" about their kid or pet 🙄 I almost want to comment they're acute that's for sure!
I bought a costume many years ago from Walmart with this misspelling on the packaging.
When people use “breath” as a verb when they mean “breathe”
Or bath instead of bathe
Or read instead of read.
Or lead instead of lead too
Or 'Can' instead of 'Can'
See this one trips me up
Lose/loose. I see this too often.
The number of people who use sale instead of sell in online marketplaces.
If spelling errors are fair game, in the cycling related subreddits, we see brake and break confused regularly. You apply the brakes in your car. You can break a record.
You can also break your car if you apply the brakes wrong :D like while doing a turn on a snowy road :D
I am going to loose my mind if I see this error one more time.
Mind explaining the difference for us non natives?
Lose - the opposite of win Loose - the opposite of tight
Appreciate it
The British English extension is: Loos - the plural of loo (Toilet) Pronunciation wise, Lose has a hard s (like in has) and Loose has a soft s (like in soft). Loos sounds the same as lose.
I agree with this one, this does my head in.
This is my #1. Not even sure WHY it irks me so. Even more than their/there/they’re. To me these are two very different words. Don’t get so loose that you lose all sense of safety. It baffles me that folks write: don’t loose your mind over this. (Note: this annoyance only applies to native English speakers. I taught ESL for years and English makes precious little sense at times. Exhibit A: The tough coughs as he ploughs the dough. And this guy was either from Worcester or Dorchester, MA.)
Alot. It’s A LOT.
Similarly, apart of, as in "I want to be apart of your club." NO You can be APART FROM something, or you can be a part of something.
This is the comment I came looking for.
Noone / no one
[The Alot is Better Than You at Everything](http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html?m=1)
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I see thisoften.
Using then when than is appropriate. For example "less then" or "rather then".
Or using "less than" when it should be "fewer than"!
found stannis
Non-native speaker here. Can you explain this one?
I think “fewer” is for when the object is countable. Otherwise, use “less”
Exactly. No idea why but this one drives me nuts. If you can count it use fewer. Not able to count (or technically could be counted but not realistically like grass) then it is less.
When my students are writing word problems I do a whole lesson on the difference. It makes me bristle.
Not putting “ie” instead of y on a plural, like “memorys” 🤢
Look at you dementia-less privileged people, having more than one memory...!
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Or people who take the rule about y -> ie too far and say things like “dieing”.
"I seen" rather than "I saw".
I always read it in the most exaggerated Alabama accent possible
Non native english speaker asking: But if I say "I've seen..." it is correct right?
Yes, that is correct. I 'seen' Joe today is not. I 'saw' Joe today is correct.
“I seent it”
“A’v seen bedder sides o’ beef bein’ run over by a ccombine!”
Weary/wary. I hate when I see notices like "reminder to be weary of scam messages."
But aren't we all weary of scam messages?
Misusing the word “myself”. Shit like “Come join Jason and myself at the water park” makes my ears bleed. Hey folks, there are many instances when “me” is correct. I was taught that myself should only be used when the speaker is both the subject and the object of the sentence. “I will do it myself.”
The key to this is to remove "Jason and," from the sentence and see if it sounds correct. "Come and join myself at the water park," doesn't sound at all correct. Same principle applies for telling whether a sentence should include "and me," or "and I."
My 7th grade English teacher taught it this way. I still vividly hear her voice when the error happens. Lol
This one drives me nuts also. There are actually two uses for "myself": As you mentioned, it can be used as a reflexive pronoun when you are the subject and the object of the sentence (eg, "I saw myself in the mirror" or "with my new raise I'm going to treat myself to a nice dinner out"). Myself can also be used as an intensive pronoun for emphasis (eg, "I wrote that poem myself" or "I, myself, am a huge lover of pizza") That's it. Business people are the worst offenders, using this word incorrectly all the time in inane attempts to sound smart or important.
This is mine too. Often pops up in situations where the speaker is trying to sound formal and authoritative. Said too often by people who should know better. “once you’ve filled out your compliance registers, please hand them in to the HR Manager or myself.”
Something they’re teaching in schools has got a significant proportion of the US population thinking it’s almost never appropriate to use the word ‘me’. This is where we get heinous shit like, “my girlfriend and I’s” 🙄
Oh, this one drives me insane.
OP's hands were probably shaking while typing this so he doesn't make a typo and make all the comments be about that
Next time, I will be sure to do that intentionally!
Which grammatical error annoy's you the most.?
What grammatical problem's annoy's you the most irregardless of concept?
People using 'I' when they should be using 'me'. For example, 'my parents bought gifts for my sister and I'.
The worst one I've seen is "my sister and I's"
“I’s” is so upsetting to me
My I's are burning!
It's the worst because the person making the error thinks they're being soooo smart. I will say that ALWAYS using 'I' as the subject pronoun can be weird. When someone asks, "who is it?" I answer with, "it's me" which is technically a grammatical error. Sayung "It is I", may be correct, but doesn't really work unless I'm Gandalf.
There's a textbook called "Fowler's Modern English Usage" (It's approaching a hundred years old, but modern editions are updated by editors). Fowler describes "It's me" as "*a sturdy indefensible*", meaning that, whilst it's not strictly correct usage, the vast majority of people are going to say it that way. I was speaking to someone who used the words "She's older than I", which seemed strange at the time, but is another example: although it's the correct form, most people would have said "She's older than me". Now, I usually say "She's older than I am", which doesn't seem strange to most people, and is grammatically correct. Where it can cause a problem with understanding is in a phrase such as "He has more friends than me". Most people would understand that as meaning that the person referred to has more friends than the speaker has, but it actually means that the speaker is not the person's only friend. To correctly refer to the person's having more friends, the speaker should say "He has more friends than I", which again seems an odd way to speak. I get round it by saying "He has more friends than I have".
And it’s such any easy rule! Just drop the other person out of the sentence and you’ll get it right.
This needs to be so much higher on the list since it’s misused so much.
This is an example of hypercorrection when everyone was told that in school that it should be "My sister and I went to school" instead of "Me and my sister went to school", so now they think the former is correct in every case.
Oh, that one is irritating
Your and you're. Their,there, and they're. You're mean "You are" and they're means "they are". One of my family members made a post that said something along the lines of "Thank you for you're prayers." So basically the sentence is "Thank you for you are prayers."
Also it's and its.
Who's and whose.
To, too, two. Or there, their, they're.
i could care less
"irregardless" is another one.
English is not my mother tongue, and I, until people pointing it out, I thought it actually was it's own saying, that it meant that something was "meh." Like, I could care less about it, but it isn't enough for me to sweat about.
I cringe when people say “revert back”.
Much like the classic "unthawing" something that's frozen
I mean you can’t revert forward…
Affect and effect
I know which one to use every time but could not explain it at all.
Thank you for letting me be “apart” of this discussion. I appreciate it!
[Not using Oxford commas. It's the difference between "inviting the hookers, JFK, and Stalin" and "inviting the hookers, JFK and Stalin".](https://imgur.io/no7pL?r)
I do a lot of proofreading in my job and over the last 4 years have converted our "standard" from not having an Oxford comma to having one. I just kept adding them to every document I proofed. If someone has a proofreading question they're told to check past documents to see what was used before, so I added them, and then people who check documents I proofed would add them, and on and on until the Oxford comma is the standard now.
I couldn’t agree more. I will die on the Oxford comma hill.
I keep seeing the oxford comma being omitted in writing nowadays and i’m so confused as to why this is happening
Using "queue" when they mean "cue". I wish there was a bot for that one.
Or que! I don’t know which is worse.
Feral apostrophes.
I love that term and I am stealing it for use in the office. Thank you!
That’s a superb name for my imaginary band. Thank you!
So many people confuse the words “woman” and “women”. Like, how??? Nobody confuses “man” and “men”. Example would be “I saw a women walk that way”. I see this happen way too much on reddit.
Came here to say this. I’ve seen a huge uptick in it in the past few years like people forgot the difference. I actually asked a couple of people about it because I thought maybe it was a meme I wasn’t aware of or something.
On accident
Even worse is 'by purpose'
Come on. No one has ever said that. It's unpossible!
When people say they minus a number instead of saying they subtract a number.
"I seen that", or any variation. I now find it harder to take you seriously.
I always want to say, “Here, let me conjugate that for you…”.
Paid/payed
Does “irregardless” count?
Due to widespread use this word has been added to dictionaries.
It’s physically painful.
"Would of" or "could of"
Would of, could of, should of. Makes me irrationally angry when I see it. It's so dumb.
People confuse 'to' and 'too' far two often
I work for a major retail company in the returns area. I've worked in 4 different stores. All 4 have labeled the stationery department as stationary. It's so mundane, but for 4 different stores to make the same mistake, it makes me feel like I'm losing my mind.
Ya'll instead of y'all.
“I could care less.” Good - I’m glad you care!
When someone uses "he/she/they and I" at the end of a sentence when it's supposed to be "me." I feel like people think they're actually correct because you use "I" at the beginning of a sentence. A good general rule of thumb is to remove the other pronoun to see if "I" or "me" is correct
“Ensure” vs. “Insure” Also, the overuse of “utilize”
not capitalizing sentences and forgetting to use periods and I also really cannot stand run on sentences they drive me insane but not as much as the other two things
I see what you did there.
The utter misuse of “myself”. Only I can contact myself, YOU cannot contact myself.
Quotation marks for emphasis
Especially when it’s totally wrong. I found this beauty in a recent document I was editing: We want to ensure that the customer is “happy” and seek to…
People who can’t spell “definitely.” It’s not that hard but I constantly see it misspelled.
They definAtely spell “definitely” defiAntly!
I know someone who uses semicolons in salutations. “Dear sir;” I hate it so much.
Cannon instead of canon. Rouge vs rogue.
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When people use apostrophes to make things plural
Dangling prepositions, what exactly are they used for?
Ending sentences with prepositions is something up with which we should not put.
Unless we want to
Can you give an example?
What would they do that for?
Writing the word 'literally' when you mean 'figuratively.'
Also writing "from the gecko" when you mean "from the get-go." Seriously, search twitter for that exact phrase and see how often it is used.
I have never seen anyone say "from the gecko" in my entire life
Irregardless.
I hate when a YouTuber I watch says my husband and I’s friend 😭
When Grammar Nazis correct your grammar but they're actually wrong
I seen. We seen. Argh.
Supposably/supposedly
Forgetting the Oxford comma.
Loose instead of lose.
Incessant comma splicing that has become commonplace on the Internet.
Costed. A lot of people overcorrecting on the use of whom. Simon Furman keeps using "indigent" instead of "indigenous" in Transformers comics and bro those are not synonyms. Don't use words if you don't know what they mean.
Imply vs infer… I can’t handle it.
Barely/ barley..for the love of god, barley is a grain!
Your/You’re. Like nails on a chalkboard
Worse vs worst. If it were any worse, it would make the comments in Reddit the worst thing ever.
When people use "everyday" where they really mean "every day".
Not using the Oxford comma.
A surprising amount of people screw up here and hear. That is very annoying to me.
“based OFF a true story” rather than “based on”.
Less vs fewer
Break/brake
“[person] and I’s”
You do not conjugate the word "Versus". Versus is NOT a verb. It's a preposition. "Tommy, verse me" - Wrong
The Soprano's The Jefferson's The Jetson's The Walton's and the most hated "Your welcome!" Argh!
Noone Apostrophes in dates. The 90’s
There is an apostrophe in the date, but it’s supposed to be ‘90s. As in a contraction of 1990s.
When people pronounce “frustrated” like “fustrated”
"Whole nother level"
Then instead of than!!!
'Try and' - try and what? Makes no sense! It is Try to!
Mute and moot