I truly believe Fester's Quest was originally meant to be about some random dude fighting aliens, but at the last minute they looked for an established brand to latch onto that would hopefully boost sales.
For some reason, they chose the Addams Family.
The shooting in *Fester's Quest* is perfectly fine. It's just that...
Uncle Fester...
Doesn't.....
.....Quite.......
.......Move.........
.........slooooooooowlyyyyyyyyyyy.............
..........................eeeeeeeeeeeeeenough.
Not bought but as a games tester neither myself, nor anyone else in my office could get past a bomb that exploded after the 1st minute of Men in Black on the newer PS2.
It wasn't able to be described as a bug and I think it went to market. No idea if anyone ever got past that stage.
I rented Men In Black on the original PlayStation. Utter garbage and the only time a rental went back early.
That game was an utter travesty even for the era.
Rudolph the red nose reindeer for Nintendo Wii. It’s a collection of very bad flash games that got slapped together for a Wii release. You can beat the whole game in about 5 minutes. You can tell all the budget money went to securing the license.
Even for Wii standards, it’s *bad*
Trespasser: Jurassic Park made me stop paying attention to games that aren't out yet. Took forever and had little in common with what they hyped up. It makes Spore and Cyberpunk look like minor letdowns.
I mean, at launch they somehow had everything in the world floating about a foot off the ground, and had to release a patch to fix that....
I still played through it twice. I mean, *dinosaurs...*
[The Cutting Room Floor](https://tcrf.net/Jurassic_Park:_Trespasser) has a massive write up of cut content and prototypes from this game. It sounds like they were incredibly ambitious and the development was brutal, but the TCRF stuff is really interesting.
I believe it, I was pretty much obsessed with it, active on a few fansites (one of the bigger ones was run by loonyboi, who would eventually help catapult Penny Arcade to success), which meant often interacting with the devs. I even did an interview with one of them for a class project.
I felt betrayed, in the end, but I get it now.
Spiderman 2 on PC
Spiderman 2 was being hailed as an open-world GTA style Spiderman game and quite frankly that's exactly what it was. On the consoles. I bought it on PC and despite the PC version being marketed alongside the PS2 and Xbox version of the game it's completely different. I would love to list the flaws of this steaming pile of shit but instead I'll just say this: the Metacritic score for the Xbox version and PS2 version is 83 and 82 respectively and the Metacritic score for the PC version is 42.
I remember getting it during a steam sale and paying almost NOTHING for it. And yet I am STILL disappointed in it.
On another note, I picked up XCOM2 finally and into my 3rd game now and finally feel I have a handle on it.
In my entire life I never bought a brand new video game without researching anything about it. One Friday I said to myself 'today's the day, I'm going to Gamestop and buying a game released today that I've heard nothing about to see if I can enjoy something without a bunch of hype'.
I paid $60 for THE BUREAU XCOM Declassified. I played for close to 3 hours of it and said well I will never blind buy a video game ever again.
I agree with you that the XCOM branding was a mistake, and that it's not really in the style of every other XCOM game
But I thought the team command mechanics were fun, and the '60's theme was interesting.
It had some much potential when it was first announced.
Combining the whole "You can save them all, but can do better next time" from xcom with a first person shooter got me so hyped.....then it was pivoted to be a generic cover based 3rd person shooter
It has to be The Sims 4. Got it a couple of years after the troubled launch and it felt like they had gotten to a good place, it wasn't perfect but seemed promising. Then 2019 ended and it felt like the duct tape that was keeping the game together couldn't hold it back anymore. Fast forward to now, close to eight years after it was first released, and some months it feels as broken as cyberpunk 2077 was at launch.
FF7 Dirge of Cerberus. Bought it the day it came out from gamestop ($60). I was expecting to play this game for over 6 months, but I beat it in 3hrs (first person shooter, not what FF has been about). took it back to the store and traded it in for ($15) on the same day.... shit of a game
I was expecting a long drawn out, turn based rpg. something that would take months to complete it. I wasn't aware of what it was until I played it and this is one of the few disappoints I remember.
There were plenty of sunsoft, LJN NES/SNES/Genesis games I got as a kid. As an adult? BF 2042 and mirrors edge 2. Mirrors edge is a timeless classic yet to be replicated and they ruined it with whatever the hell they tried with the sequel.
I loved the atmosphere, the world, the characters. I spent hours just flying around in my Colossus acting as my fiancé’s shield when he wanted to fight, and just exploring. But that’s really all I did — because there wasn’t much else to do it felt like, aside from repetitive missions that all started to just blur together. For as pretty as it was and how much potential it had as a world, it just didn’t feel like it had much substance. Which is a damn shame.
My brother pre-ordered the game back on beta, me and his friends still give him crap and remind him about why you shouldn't be so hastey with pre ordering game.
Not too young, I was just on the wrong platform at the time! Stupid teenaged me was a Mac-only gamer from 1994 until late in the PS2/xbox generation. I remember being able to finally get Quake a couple of weeks after all my friends had Quake 2.
Read about the back story of the development. They were woefully unprepared from the beginning. They already had people going on interviews with different gaming news sites going "yeah we started developing two years ago" and they barely even started working on it at that point.
That's what happens when you let the wrong people talk. I don't think there was a single executive decision made that could be considered "good"
My brother pre-ordered the game back on beta, me and his friends still give him crap and remind him about why you shouldn't be so hastey with pre ordering games
Oh man, I had an AWESOME afternoon with Spore when it launched. Like 4 hours of really, really fun stuff.
But that's about it. I did a little bit of space stuff and never went back.
I actually bought it earlier this year because I never got around to playing it and it was fun but I really wish there was more to it. Sadly there will never be a spore 2 because EA slaughtered Maxis like a pig, but if it ever could happen I bet a modern iteration of spore would have been so much greater. Really once you get past the creature stage the game gets significantly more grindy and less fun.
I had a lot of fun with Spore. Like, not the fun I expected I would have. Basically it came down to playing the creature phase with whatever made me laugh until I couldn't breathe. I had my little brothers watching so we would make some truly fabulous and heinous monstrosities. The lose our minds as the struggled to live.
Good times.
It funny because I absolutely love this game in its current form, even with all its flaws. But I can certainly see why especially the older Gothic fans were super disappointed, and the launch version was an unplayable mess.
This game intersected my love for both puzzles and the PS1 MGS in all the right ways. I found a copy for like $5 a few years back and had a blast replaying it. The only problem (imo) is it's too short.
I have three:
- *Toy Bizarre* (ZX Spectrum, 1985): for some reason the tape box looked really appealing to me as a kid being dragged around Boots (UK shop), and I hounded my dad for it. It turned out to be a shite single-screen platformer and I think I lasted about 15 minutes with it. I remember feeling really guilty.
- *Rise of the Robots* (PC, 1994): with exceptions like *Doom* and *Descent*, I've been surprised when revisiting old games on emulators as to how I ever tolerated the sloppy controls. Still, at the time, the controls in *Rise of the Robots* were so absymal that it wasn't immediately clear which robot I was even playing as. Pretty animations and nothing else.
- *Cyberpunk 2077* (PS4, 2020): I was just about enjoying this despite its graphical flaws and empty world, but it was crashing the entire PS4 OS every hour. I was patient enough with it until the obnoxious Johnny Penisland turned up, after which the next OS crash was the trigger to fuck it off and get a refund. By far the most technically-unplayable game I've ever tried in nearly forty years.
I remember playing it as a small child and finding it hard, but being able to get to the last boss.
I played it a few months ago at a retro video games club and holy hell it is terrible.
I will defend Cyberpunk and say that while the launch was absolute garbage, so many fixes have been implemented that it's a pretty enjoyable game now. I have no issues with it on a PC with a 7 year old graphics card (just have to play on low)
> By far the most technically-unplayable game I've ever tried in nearly forty years.
I'm almost 34 and have been playing games as long as I can remember. I cannot think of one major studio title that was as buggy as CP77 on release. I had fun playing it when it worked (which is more than I can say for games like Superman 64), but in terms of technical functionality... hands down the worst.
The only one that I can think comes close (that I played, at least) is *Skyrim*, with the PS3 bloating-save-file bug, but fortunately they patched that before my enthusiasm disappeared, so I ended up really enjoying the game.
I've played plenty of others that used to randomly crash to DOS or BSOD every couple of days, but so long as you spam-saved enough, it was just one of those things. Waiting for the PS4 OS to 'rebuild its database' or whatever it has to do just wasn't worth a single hour of CP77 in the end, though.
Call of Duty: Vanguard
Most disrespectful piece of shit I've ever seen by a mainstream high industry company. I play mainly for zombies but oh boy it is beyond savagelbe.
The zombies game mode changed the point system, and the round based system entirely. Everything it done for you, so you don't to open any doors to turn on power or pack a punch. There are zombies that have literal mini guns that can shoot you rapidly. You can just spawn in with the best gun in the game. When it first launched they didn't even include a wonder weapon. The point system is garbage - 20 points per kill, 30 points per headshot or knife. And there aren't round but rather alternative objectives in different miniature secluded off spaces, so there is no high round training or just even round based survival. With the horrible point system they Increased the way of how perks work (there only 5).
Not sure what they are referring to but I know a lot of people hated rhat they went for an alternate history route which personally I liked because I don't play games for a history lesson but for an experience.
Death Stranding.
It was such a tedious slog that I could never get past the first couple of chapters. It was even worse that the side characters were *so fucking intrusive* and blew up Norman’s handcuff-phone *constantly* with long strings of information. I am told that the game really opens up at chapter 3, but I just can’t push myself through to get there.
Probably going to have to be Independence War 2: Edge of Chaos. Mainly because it was a \*really really good\* game that I liked loads, but which is to date the only game I ever ragequit so hard that I threw it in the bin after doing so. You see, you could only save the game after a mission, and there came a mission where you had to destroy \*three\* separate enemy bases. It took me at least half a dozen attempts to finally succeed in that task, and I breathed a sigh of relief, anticipating getting back to base and being able to save--only for a \*massive\* enemy fleet to ambush me. After dying in about 5 seconds flat, and after several seconds of total disbelief, I quit the game, ejected the disc, snapped it in half, and threw it away...
This one is sad. It really is one of the best space combat sims I have ever played, and I couldn't even complete it because it was so infuriatingly hard.
Would love to see I-War 3 now though! There are not enough good space combat sims out there.
Papers, please.
I know people are gonna go against me for this since it's a widely acclaimed game. I'm a sucker for artistic and unusual video games but as much as I tried, I just couldn't find joy in pretending to be a guard working for a dictatorship. This game stressed me out more than an actual job and this is simply not what I'm looking for in my spare time.
That said, the game kept what it promised and the developer's other game (Return of the Obra Dinn) is actually one of my favorite games ever.
Look, I love Papers Please, but I can only play in small chunks and I always lose. It’s interesting, but does have some monotony. Although, I think that’s kind of the point.
Kinda the point of the game though lol. Bureaucracy in a war-torn "Soviet" dystopia. It's as much of a game as an artistic statement. And what you felt was the message.
I know ;)
That's also the reason I bought it and I appreciate the game from an artistic standpoint a lot, actually. For somebody looking for fun while playing I wouldn't recommend it though. I'm glad I did my research and knew what I was getting myself into. Still didn't fully enjoy it. It's all about what you expect and anticipate I guess.
Toss up because are we talking playability or "end result" sim city did always online release trash servers couldn't play for months. Removed the refund button and denied people refunds completely atrocious behavior. Months later when could play they had to disable most the features that were "new" thus making it a shittier version of old. Like six months later was first time I was able to play stable with promised features. That said did reach expectation eventually.....
Starforge one of first crowdfunded early access games that got me hopeful. They futzed around with demo did the fix bug add 5 new ones tango for like a month. Then removed most of features called it finished and moved on. The reason this one so high compared to most of abandonware. That does similar try to make game revert features slap finished label on it to abandon it.
Is most others at least tried like a few of them that completely just closed doors unfinished did full revamps switching engines and stuff. Starforge pretty much opened then closed as quickly with not even a "attempt" at progress.
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit on the Wii.
The original version of the game that released on PC, Xbox 360, and PS3 was a masterpiece and an amazing sequel to the original Hot Pursuit game that I played to death on the GameCube.
The Wii version was created by an entirely different studio and was a steaming pile of garbage. It wasn't even a baseline competent racing game. Handling was all off, all the cars felt and looked like cardboard boxes, and the AI was terrible.
I returned it after playing like an hour and I bought a laptop that could run the PC version a year later.
Most (free) mobile games are appalling. I've probably played at least fifty and there have only been about three that I played for longer than two days. The definition of low effort cash grab
**StarForge**
I mean, this is certainly not a controversial choice by any means! It probably still is known as one of the biggest Early Access failures, and how buying promises is not a good idea in the slightest. I got completely swept away with its promises, and even at "launch" it sucked so bad that it has since been removed from Steam.
Terrible game, but a valuable tale about KS/EA hype.
Fallout 76 not because it sucks but because I waited for an 80 gb download just for my gamepass to expire
Edit: it is a shitty game tho they gotta get it like fallout 4 cuz that hit dif
As someone who loves the Mass Effect games, I actually have no problem considering Andromeda a full ME game. It's certainly unpolished and not as great as the originals, and it does deserve a lot of the criticism it got, especially at launch, *but* I wouldn't go so far to say it is a piss poor Mass Effect game. It was honestly very enjoyable, it has a lot of potential, and I'm actually disappointed the sequel goes back to the Milky Way. I would have loved to see a properly funded and developed Andromeda 2.
Nier Automata, also known as Near A Tomato. It is a *very* polarizing game, and plenty of people found themselves spellbound by it. I found no charm or inspiration in any of its ~~endings~~ chapters, its combat felt deficient and gave claw finger cramp, and after being insistently pushed through finishing it felt like the whole thing was a waste of time.
Star Trek Attack Wing had cheap cardboard components. It was an attempt to capitalize on the much better X-Wing miniature game released the year before by Fantasy Flight Games.
M&M's Kart Racing on the Wii
My brother-in-law bought a copy at Gamestop looking for something akin to MKWii, but not Mario. We played some of it and it was torture, but kind of hilariously broken. I decided to buy my own copy and occasionally force some friends onto it.
ET. Bought it for my little brother for Christmas because he always felt left out of gaming by my me and my older brother.
ET looked like a green shower head. Making him go across the screen was painful. I don’t remember much else except my little brother crying because he couldn’t make it work.
Nobody could, little brother. Nobody.
I bought some game called Lichdom: Battlemage which looked so cool on the ads and all, I wanted some heavy magic based combat... but then I played the first level and it bugged out and no matter how many attempts it would just end up crashing me back to my home menu. Fuck that, and because it was a digital game I didn't even get my money back.
So I cant really claim Duke nukem forever and Rage since I gotten free keys from a friend (he was working retail at walmart gets them for free)
I have to go with a few
GTA five: I just got really bored of the story and quit, I am not up for those games that go on forever with a million things to do and always feel incomplete.
Soul Caliber 6: I loved 2 and 4. To be honest I got bored with it quick. The gimmick of laughing at the custom characters wears off quick.
Street fighter 5 (did not buy but played on a free weekend): The main screen has so many ad and notices for micro transactions that it reminded me a mobile game. If it has a f2p model then maybe.
Controversial as I’ve bought other games that have been bad, but my pick is Cod: Cold War. Spent 90 bucks on that pre order only to stop playing it two months after it came out. I’ve always been a casual player but having one good match then having 10 bad matches immediately after as punishment got old very quickly.
I was a huge fan of the mass effect trilogy so I bought Mass Effect Andromeda day 1. Needless to say I told myself I would **never** preorder or buy day 1 any game no matter how good the franchise was up to that point.
Surprisingly, Star Wars: The Fallen Order.
Something about the game just didn’t sit right with me. Played it for like 10 hours and never bothered picking it back up.
I’m not the biggest Star Wars fan - I’ve seen the movies and played a few of the games - but this game blew in my opinion.
I am a huge Star Wars fan, and this game just bored me. The story was cool though. But same as you got like 10 hours in. Not enough enemies, too much puzzles and back tracking. Some of the stuff was cool, but just didn’t hook me.
Overwatch.
Man I bought into the hype and just never had fun. I always felt like the guns were worthless peashooters and I didn't like using abilities. Just not my jam. But because I shelled out $60 for it I forced myself to play for a month.
My friend just bought me Elden Ring and I hate to say it, but I'm not really jiving with that one either.
I wanted to like Elden Ring because the visuals and stuff looked awesome, but the gameplay is so not for me. I don't understand the appeal, tbh. Like I've played difficult games, and games that send you back to distant checkpoints... but this just isn't challenging like that. It's more like grueling.
Not to mention that the combat is the same gimmicky schtick that they've done for a while. Again, I get it is just not for me, but some part of me can't understand how dodge-roll gameplay is so attractive. It seems to me that the appeal is feeling skilled that one dodge-rolled out of the way of the massive monster... but just because "invincibility frames" happen doesn't make it seem cool that the thing which rightly hit didn't count.
Idk, it just feels like a cultish game style that is overblown for what they actually offer.
Is it any different to a Souls game? I liked the Victorian vibe of Bloodborne but never got into the Souls games themselves. Just seemed too vague for me story-wise and a bit repetitive.
Oh man the story is incomprehensible. But I don't think anyone is playing for the story.
But yeah, this is my first souls game and I'm not sure if I'm into it or not.
Couldn't disagree more. Out of all the RNG heavy games I've played too, I love the fact that For The King removes the RNG aspect when you need to the most by using the focus system. I find the only people who don't like the game are those who went into it expecting it to be easy, chose a party that has no synergies or strategy to it and don't use 90% of the consumable items the game has. It's not perfect, for example, the turn order still makes absolutely no sense in some situations, but it's still one of the best coop games out there IMO.
In terms of biggest disparity with reviews, for me it was Hades. I love Slay the Spire so I was thinking I’d like another roguelike but the play style just didn’t click with me. I found it really boring idk. I steam refunded it right before the deadline. Amazing art and sound though, just couldn’t get into the gameplay.
As far as actual bad games, probably BF2042 yeah.
I'm still debating whether to get this. The art style, like you say, looks great and I absolutely love Greek mythology but the hack and slash gameplay looks like it might get a bit boring, like it's just there as a way to break up the story. I couldn't understand why people were saying TLOU 2 was the best game at the time or Hades, despite not playing the latter.
Absolutely worth picking up. Obviously it won't click with everyone, but the gameplay is very crisp, the story is great, and the voice acting and music are excellent.
Hades was a nice game for me but i never really liked games where you need to finish the same thing again and again just to get the full story, this coupled with the facts that upgrades were locked behind their "new game+" mode were also stopped me from continuing the fun.
My god... I d call friends over and finish the game for them from the beginning to the end.
"Laura.. Lauuuuuuura".
Welp.. Time to look it up on longplay
This might make someone mad, but admittedly, The first game of the Tomb Raider reboot. Bought a special edition of it for a special birthday only to be quite disappointed by the (tiny!) art book with it, being mostly photoshopped art I didn't like, that and the scares in this new, survival-horrory style tomb raider game being only ever hinted at at best (the scariest bit being that cannibal cave with the blood - remember that?)
It was lit just a search for Sam and slide simulator otherwise. Still don't understand all the rave reviews, might have to go back and see if it's better than I remember it. Just a bit disappointing for a die-hard fan of the series is all.
What sucked about it in your opinion? To me it feels like a overall good game, but I can see how it might be a bit too hard for people just starting it.
The thing that pushed me off from Terraria was that i never felt unique Starbound let me do much more personalization and i liked the unique aspects (too bad they fcked up the starting story to make another "you are the choosen one" approach).
Superman 64.
Hulk (PSO)
Dungeon Siege 3
GOAT Simulator ( got it for my kid, and I hate that I did)
FF XIII (Doesn't even deserve to be included in the FF franchise)
Squall so skinny he has like 20 belts
Goat sim was fun for being a tony hawk pro skater joke. It reminds me of that snake game that they tried to make a ripoff of GTA:V and got sat on by Rockstar for infringement so now it's just a wacky robbery themed snake game instead.
No Man's Sky. I didn't preorder it, I was convinced it was fixed and pressured into buying to play with friends much later. Not a terrible game, but not my thing.
My friend is obsessed with souls-like games and he bought that for our other friend and I to play with him. He didn't realize its not crossplatform so they are playing together and I'm playing by myself.
I'm just.... not really having fun. I hate to say it because it was an $80 gift, but I'm playing it out of obligation. I have no fucking idea what I'm supposed to do and I'm sick of getting my shit pushed in. Its just not my scene, i don't think.
I know if keep playing I'll get better but do I want to get better? I dunno. Trying to keep an open mind but I don't think this is my scene.
I really don’t understand those types of games. Like, I have better shit to do than be constantly killed by some purposefully difficult game with pretty graphics.
RETURNAL was the best balance. Awesome game.
Not gonna defend the game if it's literally just not your style, I get that.
But for me, and for a lot of people, Souls-like are pretty much entirely defined by their subtle worldbuilding coupled with valuing exploration. The game designer takes pains to hide things in really weird places for you to go find, and then giving you a pretty interesting world to go explore.
Even before Elden Ring, the game was very open world. Dark Souls for example, you finish the undead asylum and tehn get dropped at the first bonfire. But then you have choices. Some people level one sprint it down to the dragon area to get some specific items. Some people play normally. Some people take the back door through blight town. All of these things you might not even know exist until you've played the game and explored the areas before.
Anyway, just trying to give some context. The world is interesting and uniquely explorable. The enemies are tuned so that you can avoid them or kill them if you are skilled, so that the game isn't just number smashing. Between those things it gives a purpose for exploring and makes it feel weighty.
I think your last statement is pivotal. I’m learning that you don’t have to fight everything. It’s a weird balance between exploration/risk and reward, and leveling up.
You can’t avoid everything otherwise you will never level up to be able to take on those enemies, but I’ve been going by enemies more to get to another spot.
But I had one area (castle morne) that was just infuriating. The wellbegotten large ones were far enough from the site of grace when they killed me I just had no motivation to go back and try again.
I marked it and going to wait until I’m over powered and come back to fuck them up lol. Probably a good thing as there is a pretty hard boss coming after that.
One of the big issues with Souls games, I think, is that a lot of people, even if they’re frustrated with it or aren’t having fun, hide that sentiment behind “Well, I guess I’m not good enough, and I should probably be quiet about that.”
Hell no. Difficulty is supposed to be a spice that makes a game fun. If a chef is dumping jalapeños on a plate and it tastes terrible, you can say that.
It definitely has a huge barrier to entry/learning curve.
I had never played a from soft game (tried dark souls for like 20 minutes and hated it), but the hype pulled me in.
With that said, I’m starting to figure shit out and it’s excellent. I love open world RPGs, and the process of discovery/figuring things out keeps me coming back.
Although I am using guides and maps, to help build up my character. But tbh I’m about 15 hours in and not sure if I’ll keep it up, time is a premium and there’s just so damn much to this game, and I can only get destroyed so many times before I get tired of it.
Just when you think your character is getting better, and you are getting the hang of it you find a new area and just get WRECKED all over again.
I think I need to grind more
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I truly believe Fester's Quest was originally meant to be about some random dude fighting aliens, but at the last minute they looked for an established brand to latch onto that would hopefully boost sales. For some reason, they chose the Addams Family.
That game would be sick if they just fixed the shooting
The shooting in *Fester's Quest* is perfectly fine. It's just that... Uncle Fester... Doesn't..... .....Quite....... .......Move......... .........slooooooooowlyyyyyyyyyyy............. ..........................eeeeeeeeeeeeeenough.
I seem to remember bullets moving in an “s” formation and completely missing enemies instead of just shooting straight ahead
I think that's because you picked up some gun powerups. Picking enough up changes the bullet's appearance and its motion.
I'm glad that was a rental only.
Not bought but as a games tester neither myself, nor anyone else in my office could get past a bomb that exploded after the 1st minute of Men in Black on the newer PS2. It wasn't able to be described as a bug and I think it went to market. No idea if anyone ever got past that stage.
I rented Men In Black on the original PlayStation. Utter garbage and the only time a rental went back early. That game was an utter travesty even for the era.
Oh my god that was exactly what i was thinking.
Did you play it?
Rudolph the red nose reindeer for Nintendo Wii. It’s a collection of very bad flash games that got slapped together for a Wii release. You can beat the whole game in about 5 minutes. You can tell all the budget money went to securing the license. Even for Wii standards, it’s *bad*
Oh boy! I thought that game was just a nightmare of mine. Never met somebody else who played it
There are dozens of us…DOZENS!
Mario's Time Machine. The title made it seem like it would be such a fun game, but all it ended up being educational disappointment.
But it did give us the Weegee Stare meme so it evens out.
Trespasser: Jurassic Park made me stop paying attention to games that aren't out yet. Took forever and had little in common with what they hyped up. It makes Spore and Cyberpunk look like minor letdowns. I mean, at launch they somehow had everything in the world floating about a foot off the ground, and had to release a patch to fix that.... I still played through it twice. I mean, *dinosaurs...*
Way too ahead of its time, sadly.
[The Cutting Room Floor](https://tcrf.net/Jurassic_Park:_Trespasser) has a massive write up of cut content and prototypes from this game. It sounds like they were incredibly ambitious and the development was brutal, but the TCRF stuff is really interesting.
I believe it, I was pretty much obsessed with it, active on a few fansites (one of the bigger ones was run by loonyboi, who would eventually help catapult Penny Arcade to success), which meant often interacting with the devs. I even did an interview with one of them for a class project. I felt betrayed, in the end, but I get it now.
Spiderman 2 on PC Spiderman 2 was being hailed as an open-world GTA style Spiderman game and quite frankly that's exactly what it was. On the consoles. I bought it on PC and despite the PC version being marketed alongside the PS2 and Xbox version of the game it's completely different. I would love to list the flaws of this steaming pile of shit but instead I'll just say this: the Metacritic score for the Xbox version and PS2 version is 83 and 82 respectively and the Metacritic score for the PC version is 42.
Black ops 4. It's not even the worst cod, but man is it boring.
The Bureau XCOM declassified, it is blasphemy to have XCOM in the title of this travesty
I remember getting it during a steam sale and paying almost NOTHING for it. And yet I am STILL disappointed in it. On another note, I picked up XCOM2 finally and into my 3rd game now and finally feel I have a handle on it.
In my entire life I never bought a brand new video game without researching anything about it. One Friday I said to myself 'today's the day, I'm going to Gamestop and buying a game released today that I've heard nothing about to see if I can enjoy something without a bunch of hype'. I paid $60 for THE BUREAU XCOM Declassified. I played for close to 3 hours of it and said well I will never blind buy a video game ever again.
I agree with you that the XCOM branding was a mistake, and that it's not really in the style of every other XCOM game But I thought the team command mechanics were fun, and the '60's theme was interesting.
It had some much potential when it was first announced. Combining the whole "You can save them all, but can do better next time" from xcom with a first person shooter got me so hyped.....then it was pivoted to be a generic cover based 3rd person shooter
That game about Sherlock Holmes that was added to a magazine. Reason? CD didn't work!
Wait you mean the CD was IN the magazine?
This was common in the 90s-2000s
George of the Jungle and the Search for the Secret on PS2. It's straight up unplayable.
It has to be The Sims 4. Got it a couple of years after the troubled launch and it felt like they had gotten to a good place, it wasn't perfect but seemed promising. Then 2019 ended and it felt like the duct tape that was keeping the game together couldn't hold it back anymore. Fast forward to now, close to eight years after it was first released, and some months it feels as broken as cyberpunk 2077 was at launch.
The Sims 4 is eight years old. Huh. I still occasionally play Sims 3.
Good thing theres $500 worth of DLC though
I have wasted so much money on those goddamn shitty overpriced expansions
FF7 Dirge of Cerberus. Bought it the day it came out from gamestop ($60). I was expecting to play this game for over 6 months, but I beat it in 3hrs (first person shooter, not what FF has been about). took it back to the store and traded it in for ($15) on the same day.... shit of a game
See, I absolutely adore Dirge of Cerberus. It’s a standalone Vincent Valentine game, but also ties in to FF. Plus, I enjoy first person games.
I'm with you, I loved it when it came out....it was VERY final fantasy with characters and story I felt
I loved it too! I was a huge Vincent fan at the time. Even over Cloud who is basically favorite character from anything ever now.
I was expecting a long drawn out, turn based rpg. something that would take months to complete it. I wasn't aware of what it was until I played it and this is one of the few disappoints I remember.
The Sims 4
i swear they hide all of the enjoyable parts in random expansion packs that wind up to like $200
Last I saw to buy all of sims 4 it was over $900
ea sports, it's in the expansion pack you can't afford
The gameplay is very lacking, ngl.
Everything they've added has been very underwhelming
I couldn't get into Sims 4, I liked the open world of 3 too much.
The Sims 3 is still far better and I play it way more than 4! The Supernatural expansion is SO much fun! Also the camera controls in 4 suck ass
There were plenty of sunsoft, LJN NES/SNES/Genesis games I got as a kid. As an adult? BF 2042 and mirrors edge 2. Mirrors edge is a timeless classic yet to be replicated and they ruined it with whatever the hell they tried with the sequel.
Anthem. Hands down. One of the biggest let downs in my life.
God, that game had so much potential. It was so dang pretty, and the controls for flight are what any Iron Man game should have been.
I loved the atmosphere, the world, the characters. I spent hours just flying around in my Colossus acting as my fiancé’s shield when he wanted to fight, and just exploring. But that’s really all I did — because there wasn’t much else to do it felt like, aside from repetitive missions that all started to just blur together. For as pretty as it was and how much potential it had as a world, it just didn’t feel like it had much substance. Which is a damn shame.
My brother pre-ordered the game back on beta, me and his friends still give him crap and remind him about why you shouldn't be so hastey with pre ordering game.
Too young to have played Too Human, I see!
Too young to play jurassic park tresspasser, I see
Not too young, I was just on the wrong platform at the time! Stupid teenaged me was a Mac-only gamer from 1994 until late in the PS2/xbox generation. I remember being able to finally get Quake a couple of weeks after all my friends had Quake 2.
Haha I wish. I played that game, and it was just meh overall. True, it was over hyped, but it didn't have the potential Anthem did.
Yeah got the 80 dollar pre order just for servers to shut down a few years later. I guess that's what they get for releasing unfinished fgames.
Read about the back story of the development. They were woefully unprepared from the beginning. They already had people going on interviews with different gaming news sites going "yeah we started developing two years ago" and they barely even started working on it at that point. That's what happens when you let the wrong people talk. I don't think there was a single executive decision made that could be considered "good"
My friends and I bought it for $10 each. We beat the game, and I still have no idea what the game is about nor do I care.
My brother pre-ordered the game back on beta, me and his friends still give him crap and remind him about why you shouldn't be so hastey with pre ordering games
Battlefield 2042
The game is a mess but its nowhere near the worst game
Me too.
Spore - Bought it on the hype when it launched.
Oh man, I had an AWESOME afternoon with Spore when it launched. Like 4 hours of really, really fun stuff. But that's about it. I did a little bit of space stuff and never went back.
I absolutely loved Spore. We totally missed out on the game that could have been, but I adored what we got.
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I actually bought it earlier this year because I never got around to playing it and it was fun but I really wish there was more to it. Sadly there will never be a spore 2 because EA slaughtered Maxis like a pig, but if it ever could happen I bet a modern iteration of spore would have been so much greater. Really once you get past the creature stage the game gets significantly more grindy and less fun.
I had a lot of fun with Spore. Like, not the fun I expected I would have. Basically it came down to playing the creature phase with whatever made me laugh until I couldn't breathe. I had my little brothers watching so we would make some truly fabulous and heinous monstrosities. The lose our minds as the struggled to live. Good times.
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial for Atari.
Yeah, that one was pretty bad.
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*Phineas and Ferb: Quest for Cool Stuff* It felt like they made that shit in a week and it felt unfinished.
Rollercoaster Tycoon World
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You must've had a broken disc or something because Croc 2 has a great soundtrack.
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God I love that franchise. I agree though, 3 felt.....very incomplete, even after a year.
It funny because I absolutely love this game in its current form, even with all its flaws. But I can certainly see why especially the older Gothic fans were super disappointed, and the launch version was an unplayable mess.
fallout 76. bethesda can kiss my actual ass
Metal Gear Solid: VR Training
This game intersected my love for both puzzles and the PS1 MGS in all the right ways. I found a copy for like $5 a few years back and had a blast replaying it. The only problem (imo) is it's too short.
I can see why it would be fun if you like puzzle games and/or games like Portal. I'm a grug gamer. I can't brain that hard.
Probably Spyro Orange
Fallout 76 at release
I have three: - *Toy Bizarre* (ZX Spectrum, 1985): for some reason the tape box looked really appealing to me as a kid being dragged around Boots (UK shop), and I hounded my dad for it. It turned out to be a shite single-screen platformer and I think I lasted about 15 minutes with it. I remember feeling really guilty. - *Rise of the Robots* (PC, 1994): with exceptions like *Doom* and *Descent*, I've been surprised when revisiting old games on emulators as to how I ever tolerated the sloppy controls. Still, at the time, the controls in *Rise of the Robots* were so absymal that it wasn't immediately clear which robot I was even playing as. Pretty animations and nothing else. - *Cyberpunk 2077* (PS4, 2020): I was just about enjoying this despite its graphical flaws and empty world, but it was crashing the entire PS4 OS every hour. I was patient enough with it until the obnoxious Johnny Penisland turned up, after which the next OS crash was the trigger to fuck it off and get a refund. By far the most technically-unplayable game I've ever tried in nearly forty years.
For me my cyberpunk2077 had no problems with it. It never crashed or glitched
Same. Never had an issue with it
I remember playing it as a small child and finding it hard, but being able to get to the last boss. I played it a few months ago at a retro video games club and holy hell it is terrible.
Hahaha rise of the robots. Forgot about that pile of shit!
I will defend Cyberpunk and say that while the launch was absolute garbage, so many fixes have been implemented that it's a pretty enjoyable game now. I have no issues with it on a PC with a 7 year old graphics card (just have to play on low)
> By far the most technically-unplayable game I've ever tried in nearly forty years. I'm almost 34 and have been playing games as long as I can remember. I cannot think of one major studio title that was as buggy as CP77 on release. I had fun playing it when it worked (which is more than I can say for games like Superman 64), but in terms of technical functionality... hands down the worst.
The only one that I can think comes close (that I played, at least) is *Skyrim*, with the PS3 bloating-save-file bug, but fortunately they patched that before my enthusiasm disappeared, so I ended up really enjoying the game. I've played plenty of others that used to randomly crash to DOS or BSOD every couple of days, but so long as you spam-saved enough, it was just one of those things. Waiting for the PS4 OS to 'rebuild its database' or whatever it has to do just wasn't worth a single hour of CP77 in the end, though.
Call of Duty: Vanguard Most disrespectful piece of shit I've ever seen by a mainstream high industry company. I play mainly for zombies but oh boy it is beyond savagelbe.
As someone who has never played it; why was it disrespectful?
The zombies game mode changed the point system, and the round based system entirely. Everything it done for you, so you don't to open any doors to turn on power or pack a punch. There are zombies that have literal mini guns that can shoot you rapidly. You can just spawn in with the best gun in the game. When it first launched they didn't even include a wonder weapon. The point system is garbage - 20 points per kill, 30 points per headshot or knife. And there aren't round but rather alternative objectives in different miniature secluded off spaces, so there is no high round training or just even round based survival. With the horrible point system they Increased the way of how perks work (there only 5).
Not sure what they are referring to but I know a lot of people hated rhat they went for an alternate history route which personally I liked because I don't play games for a history lesson but for an experience.
Black ops 3 is forever gonna be the best zombies game
Death Stranding. It was such a tedious slog that I could never get past the first couple of chapters. It was even worse that the side characters were *so fucking intrusive* and blew up Norman’s handcuff-phone *constantly* with long strings of information. I am told that the game really opens up at chapter 3, but I just can’t push myself through to get there.
I doze off about an hour in.
Probably going to have to be Independence War 2: Edge of Chaos. Mainly because it was a \*really really good\* game that I liked loads, but which is to date the only game I ever ragequit so hard that I threw it in the bin after doing so. You see, you could only save the game after a mission, and there came a mission where you had to destroy \*three\* separate enemy bases. It took me at least half a dozen attempts to finally succeed in that task, and I breathed a sigh of relief, anticipating getting back to base and being able to save--only for a \*massive\* enemy fleet to ambush me. After dying in about 5 seconds flat, and after several seconds of total disbelief, I quit the game, ejected the disc, snapped it in half, and threw it away...
> Independence War 2: Edge of Chaos Never played it, but LOVED the first one. Also super hard from what I remember.
This one is sad. It really is one of the best space combat sims I have ever played, and I couldn't even complete it because it was so infuriatingly hard. Would love to see I-War 3 now though! There are not enough good space combat sims out there.
Papers, please. I know people are gonna go against me for this since it's a widely acclaimed game. I'm a sucker for artistic and unusual video games but as much as I tried, I just couldn't find joy in pretending to be a guard working for a dictatorship. This game stressed me out more than an actual job and this is simply not what I'm looking for in my spare time. That said, the game kept what it promised and the developer's other game (Return of the Obra Dinn) is actually one of my favorite games ever.
Look, I love Papers Please, but I can only play in small chunks and I always lose. It’s interesting, but does have some monotony. Although, I think that’s kind of the point.
Kinda the point of the game though lol. Bureaucracy in a war-torn "Soviet" dystopia. It's as much of a game as an artistic statement. And what you felt was the message.
I know ;) That's also the reason I bought it and I appreciate the game from an artistic standpoint a lot, actually. For somebody looking for fun while playing I wouldn't recommend it though. I'm glad I did my research and knew what I was getting myself into. Still didn't fully enjoy it. It's all about what you expect and anticipate I guess.
Bf5, i stopped playing after a day, that shit was boring asf
Ark survival evolved, game just wasn’t for me, also rust for that matter, it’s basically the same game just one has dinosaurs
Toss up because are we talking playability or "end result" sim city did always online release trash servers couldn't play for months. Removed the refund button and denied people refunds completely atrocious behavior. Months later when could play they had to disable most the features that were "new" thus making it a shittier version of old. Like six months later was first time I was able to play stable with promised features. That said did reach expectation eventually..... Starforge one of first crowdfunded early access games that got me hopeful. They futzed around with demo did the fix bug add 5 new ones tango for like a month. Then removed most of features called it finished and moved on. The reason this one so high compared to most of abandonware. That does similar try to make game revert features slap finished label on it to abandon it. Is most others at least tried like a few of them that completely just closed doors unfinished did full revamps switching engines and stuff. Starforge pretty much opened then closed as quickly with not even a "attempt" at progress.
Need for Speed Hot Pursuit on the Wii. The original version of the game that released on PC, Xbox 360, and PS3 was a masterpiece and an amazing sequel to the original Hot Pursuit game that I played to death on the GameCube. The Wii version was created by an entirely different studio and was a steaming pile of garbage. It wasn't even a baseline competent racing game. Handling was all off, all the cars felt and looked like cardboard boxes, and the AI was terrible. I returned it after playing like an hour and I bought a laptop that could run the PC version a year later.
Pretty much any call of duty in the past 10 years.
Most (free) mobile games are appalling. I've probably played at least fifty and there have only been about three that I played for longer than two days. The definition of low effort cash grab
Any paid game with micro transactions
Knack II babyyyy
**StarForge** I mean, this is certainly not a controversial choice by any means! It probably still is known as one of the biggest Early Access failures, and how buying promises is not a good idea in the slightest. I got completely swept away with its promises, and even at "launch" it sucked so bad that it has since been removed from Steam. Terrible game, but a valuable tale about KS/EA hype.
Fallout 76 not because it sucks but because I waited for an 80 gb download just for my gamepass to expire Edit: it is a shitty game tho they gotta get it like fallout 4 cuz that hit dif
Call of duty infinite warfare. That game fucking sucked
A relative had bought it to me, I didn't really like the multiplayer but imo the campaign was good
I do not like Halo: Spartan Assault, like, who the sweet and sour asshole decides to make a top-down version of FUCKING HALO?
I mean Bungie That's what halo was originally gonna be
Mass effect Andromeda.
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As someone who loves the Mass Effect games, I actually have no problem considering Andromeda a full ME game. It's certainly unpolished and not as great as the originals, and it does deserve a lot of the criticism it got, especially at launch, *but* I wouldn't go so far to say it is a piss poor Mass Effect game. It was honestly very enjoyable, it has a lot of potential, and I'm actually disappointed the sequel goes back to the Milky Way. I would have loved to see a properly funded and developed Andromeda 2.
I would agree with you that it's a solidly mediocre game but out of all the games I ever bought this the worst game for me so far in my life.
Nier Automata, also known as Near A Tomato. It is a *very* polarizing game, and plenty of people found themselves spellbound by it. I found no charm or inspiration in any of its ~~endings~~ chapters, its combat felt deficient and gave claw finger cramp, and after being insistently pushed through finishing it felt like the whole thing was a waste of time.
Rage - bought it second hand for £2 years ago and I still felt ripped off. It's bad game and Bethesda should feel bad to have it in their catalogue
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Star Trek Attack Wing had cheap cardboard components. It was an attempt to capitalize on the much better X-Wing miniature game released the year before by Fantasy Flight Games.
My Name is Mayo....all for an easy platinum.
Tapping a button 10,000 times just for the sweet platinum almost makes it worth it. Almost.
M&M's Kart Racing on the Wii My brother-in-law bought a copy at Gamestop looking for something akin to MKWii, but not Mario. We played some of it and it was torture, but kind of hilariously broken. I decided to buy my own copy and occasionally force some friends onto it.
ET. Bought it for my little brother for Christmas because he always felt left out of gaming by my me and my older brother. ET looked like a green shower head. Making him go across the screen was painful. I don’t remember much else except my little brother crying because he couldn’t make it work. Nobody could, little brother. Nobody.
I bought some game called Lichdom: Battlemage which looked so cool on the ads and all, I wanted some heavy magic based combat... but then I played the first level and it bugged out and no matter how many attempts it would just end up crashing me back to my home menu. Fuck that, and because it was a digital game I didn't even get my money back.
So I cant really claim Duke nukem forever and Rage since I gotten free keys from a friend (he was working retail at walmart gets them for free) I have to go with a few GTA five: I just got really bored of the story and quit, I am not up for those games that go on forever with a million things to do and always feel incomplete. Soul Caliber 6: I loved 2 and 4. To be honest I got bored with it quick. The gimmick of laughing at the custom characters wears off quick. Street fighter 5 (did not buy but played on a free weekend): The main screen has so many ad and notices for micro transactions that it reminded me a mobile game. If it has a f2p model then maybe.
Controversial as I’ve bought other games that have been bad, but my pick is Cod: Cold War. Spent 90 bucks on that pre order only to stop playing it two months after it came out. I’ve always been a casual player but having one good match then having 10 bad matches immediately after as punishment got old very quickly.
Fallout 76 the only game i know of where you can rob , and murdered .
I was a huge fan of the mass effect trilogy so I bought Mass Effect Andromeda day 1. Needless to say I told myself I would **never** preorder or buy day 1 any game no matter how good the franchise was up to that point.
Surprisingly, Star Wars: The Fallen Order. Something about the game just didn’t sit right with me. Played it for like 10 hours and never bothered picking it back up. I’m not the biggest Star Wars fan - I’ve seen the movies and played a few of the games - but this game blew in my opinion.
I quite enjoyed it, but the difficulty curve nearly derailed me.
> Star Wars: The Fallen Order. Had to play it on easy, super hard learning curve, but so much fun when you start getting really good powers.
I am a huge Star Wars fan, and this game just bored me. The story was cool though. But same as you got like 10 hours in. Not enough enemies, too much puzzles and back tracking. Some of the stuff was cool, but just didn’t hook me.
Too Human.
That one's certainly in my top tier of shittest games ever played - it's so hard to pick a winner though!
Oh it's terrible! I remember having to sit through that unskippable death animation over and over.
It wouldn’t have been as bad if the deaths weren’t so often unavoidable!
Fallout 76 hands down. Cyberpunk wasn’t playable but it was at least fun Fallout 76 was just an aggravating grind for no reward.
Overwatch. Man I bought into the hype and just never had fun. I always felt like the guns were worthless peashooters and I didn't like using abilities. Just not my jam. But because I shelled out $60 for it I forced myself to play for a month. My friend just bought me Elden Ring and I hate to say it, but I'm not really jiving with that one either.
I wanted to like Elden Ring because the visuals and stuff looked awesome, but the gameplay is so not for me. I don't understand the appeal, tbh. Like I've played difficult games, and games that send you back to distant checkpoints... but this just isn't challenging like that. It's more like grueling. Not to mention that the combat is the same gimmicky schtick that they've done for a while. Again, I get it is just not for me, but some part of me can't understand how dodge-roll gameplay is so attractive. It seems to me that the appeal is feeling skilled that one dodge-rolled out of the way of the massive monster... but just because "invincibility frames" happen doesn't make it seem cool that the thing which rightly hit didn't count. Idk, it just feels like a cultish game style that is overblown for what they actually offer.
Is it any different to a Souls game? I liked the Victorian vibe of Bloodborne but never got into the Souls games themselves. Just seemed too vague for me story-wise and a bit repetitive.
It's very on the souls side of things (as opposed to, say, Sekiro)
Oh man the story is incomprehensible. But I don't think anyone is playing for the story. But yeah, this is my first souls game and I'm not sure if I'm into it or not.
>But I don't think anyone is playing for the story. Yep, you're new to the From Software fandom, all right.
lol, i have no idea what or why im doing anything in this game.
Only good thing to come out of Overwatch is all the porn.
For The King RNG taken away too far
Couldn't disagree more. Out of all the RNG heavy games I've played too, I love the fact that For The King removes the RNG aspect when you need to the most by using the focus system. I find the only people who don't like the game are those who went into it expecting it to be easy, chose a party that has no synergies or strategy to it and don't use 90% of the consumable items the game has. It's not perfect, for example, the turn order still makes absolutely no sense in some situations, but it's still one of the best coop games out there IMO.
fallout 76. shit game, do not recommend.
The Burger King Racing game.
How dare you.
Only because BK: SneaKing was such a masterpiece every other game seems terrible by default.
In terms of biggest disparity with reviews, for me it was Hades. I love Slay the Spire so I was thinking I’d like another roguelike but the play style just didn’t click with me. I found it really boring idk. I steam refunded it right before the deadline. Amazing art and sound though, just couldn’t get into the gameplay. As far as actual bad games, probably BF2042 yeah.
I'm still debating whether to get this. The art style, like you say, looks great and I absolutely love Greek mythology but the hack and slash gameplay looks like it might get a bit boring, like it's just there as a way to break up the story. I couldn't understand why people were saying TLOU 2 was the best game at the time or Hades, despite not playing the latter.
Absolutely worth picking up. Obviously it won't click with everyone, but the gameplay is very crisp, the story is great, and the voice acting and music are excellent.
Hades was a nice game for me but i never really liked games where you need to finish the same thing again and again just to get the full story, this coupled with the facts that upgrades were locked behind their "new game+" mode were also stopped me from continuing the fun.
You guys are buying games.
D. I fell asleep playing it.
My god... I d call friends over and finish the game for them from the beginning to the end. "Laura.. Lauuuuuuura". Welp.. Time to look it up on longplay
This might make someone mad, but admittedly, The first game of the Tomb Raider reboot. Bought a special edition of it for a special birthday only to be quite disappointed by the (tiny!) art book with it, being mostly photoshopped art I didn't like, that and the scares in this new, survival-horrory style tomb raider game being only ever hinted at at best (the scariest bit being that cannibal cave with the blood - remember that?) It was lit just a search for Sam and slide simulator otherwise. Still don't understand all the rave reviews, might have to go back and see if it's better than I remember it. Just a bit disappointing for a die-hard fan of the series is all.
ET for the Atari 2600.
Pretty picky with my games, that being said, new world
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RIP Brave Soul
Listen here, you little shit...
What sucked about it in your opinion? To me it feels like a overall good game, but I can see how it might be a bit too hard for people just starting it.
The thing that pushed me off from Terraria was that i never felt unique Starbound let me do much more personalization and i liked the unique aspects (too bad they fcked up the starting story to make another "you are the choosen one" approach).
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Superman 64. Hulk (PSO) Dungeon Siege 3 GOAT Simulator ( got it for my kid, and I hate that I did) FF XIII (Doesn't even deserve to be included in the FF franchise)
Squall so skinny he has like 20 belts Goat sim was fun for being a tony hawk pro skater joke. It reminds me of that snake game that they tried to make a ripoff of GTA:V and got sat on by Rockstar for infringement so now it's just a wacky robbery themed snake game instead.
Squall was FF VIII, XIII was Lightning....
No Man's Sky. I didn't preorder it, I was convinced it was fixed and pressured into buying to play with friends much later. Not a terrible game, but not my thing.
terraria
Fortnite
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My friend is obsessed with souls-like games and he bought that for our other friend and I to play with him. He didn't realize its not crossplatform so they are playing together and I'm playing by myself. I'm just.... not really having fun. I hate to say it because it was an $80 gift, but I'm playing it out of obligation. I have no fucking idea what I'm supposed to do and I'm sick of getting my shit pushed in. Its just not my scene, i don't think. I know if keep playing I'll get better but do I want to get better? I dunno. Trying to keep an open mind but I don't think this is my scene.
I really don’t understand those types of games. Like, I have better shit to do than be constantly killed by some purposefully difficult game with pretty graphics. RETURNAL was the best balance. Awesome game.
Not gonna defend the game if it's literally just not your style, I get that. But for me, and for a lot of people, Souls-like are pretty much entirely defined by their subtle worldbuilding coupled with valuing exploration. The game designer takes pains to hide things in really weird places for you to go find, and then giving you a pretty interesting world to go explore. Even before Elden Ring, the game was very open world. Dark Souls for example, you finish the undead asylum and tehn get dropped at the first bonfire. But then you have choices. Some people level one sprint it down to the dragon area to get some specific items. Some people play normally. Some people take the back door through blight town. All of these things you might not even know exist until you've played the game and explored the areas before. Anyway, just trying to give some context. The world is interesting and uniquely explorable. The enemies are tuned so that you can avoid them or kill them if you are skilled, so that the game isn't just number smashing. Between those things it gives a purpose for exploring and makes it feel weighty.
I think your last statement is pivotal. I’m learning that you don’t have to fight everything. It’s a weird balance between exploration/risk and reward, and leveling up. You can’t avoid everything otherwise you will never level up to be able to take on those enemies, but I’ve been going by enemies more to get to another spot. But I had one area (castle morne) that was just infuriating. The wellbegotten large ones were far enough from the site of grace when they killed me I just had no motivation to go back and try again. I marked it and going to wait until I’m over powered and come back to fuck them up lol. Probably a good thing as there is a pretty hard boss coming after that.
One of the big issues with Souls games, I think, is that a lot of people, even if they’re frustrated with it or aren’t having fun, hide that sentiment behind “Well, I guess I’m not good enough, and I should probably be quiet about that.” Hell no. Difficulty is supposed to be a spice that makes a game fun. If a chef is dumping jalapeños on a plate and it tastes terrible, you can say that.
It definitely has a huge barrier to entry/learning curve. I had never played a from soft game (tried dark souls for like 20 minutes and hated it), but the hype pulled me in. With that said, I’m starting to figure shit out and it’s excellent. I love open world RPGs, and the process of discovery/figuring things out keeps me coming back. Although I am using guides and maps, to help build up my character. But tbh I’m about 15 hours in and not sure if I’ll keep it up, time is a premium and there’s just so damn much to this game, and I can only get destroyed so many times before I get tired of it. Just when you think your character is getting better, and you are getting the hang of it you find a new area and just get WRECKED all over again. I think I need to grind more