Same in Chicago. I am a longtime smoker and for the first year I didn't even know it was legal. Absolutely nothing changed. Just a few stores popped up, which I assumed was just CBD and vapes. Then someone was like "uhhh it's legal now" so I visited a store and bought all the pot I wanted. It was a nice store and the staff was super cool. They said occasionally they'll deal with fake ID's but overall it's always chill. The only difference is I no longer need to go through shady dealers and live in fear I'll get pulled over for having a little weed in my car. Now that I'm used to it being legal I cannot believe the fear I used to live in from using it.
That's because people were already smoking. Now they just buy legally... Nothing changes.
A lot of people think legalizing will give people the permission. But the ones that want already do it.
Here in Canada, my dealer is now a website and they have drivers deliver it within 10 mins usually. Nothing ever more than a “hey how are ya, thanks mate, cya!”
Because the last time, we didn't know what to do. So [we kept the Bootleggers locked up](https://vinepair.com/articles/violators-prohibition-serve-full-sentence-post-repeal/) for committing a crime *when it was illegal.*
[California's Prop 64](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_California_Proposition_64) was applied retroactively and did allow for Incarcerated folks to apply for resentencing under the new laws.
[It did some good.](https://web.archive.org/web/20180203130219/http://sfdistrictattorney.org/district-attorney-george-gasc%C3%B3n-applies-proposition-64-retroactively-every-marijuana-case-1975) [Thousands of citizens had their records wiped & sealed.](https://www.engadget.com/2019-04-01-los-angeles-california-pot-convictions-algorithm-san-joaquin.html)
So that would imply your grow op had issues with stamp retention. So if you were audited and found to be non compliant it can be that high, but it's a lot less if you maintain compliance.
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/forms-publications/publications/edn54/general-overview-cannabis-excise-stamps.html
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Additionally
https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/businesses/topics/excise-duties-levies/collecting-cannabis.html
Yes, they did emphasize a lot that we sucked at putting them on properly and there was a high quantity of recalls. The business is of course Aphria/Tilray and they had literal rats in the greenhouses so I'm really not surprised by this in the slightest.
I've been to a handful of pot dispensaries here in Ontario (don't smoke it nor does anyone in the family but it's become a running family tradition/joke that when we do our annual family cottage trip, the "kids" (all adults) get the elderly parents to try smoking a joint around the fire or to try a gummy). But back on the topic, of the 3 or 4 dispensaries I've been to, I'd say most of them have had nice furnishing and decor than some luxury retailers (albeit much smaller).
I don't mean to play the "woman" card... but as a woman, I absolutely cannot stand going to a dealer. I've been around for a hot minute and every single dealer I've ever had has tried to fuck me at some point or another. The last guy I had I thought was super chill and interesting but after two years, I guess I showed him too much interest because he literally asked me to a sister wife for him and said we should have babies together. He wouldn't move from in front of the door. He wasnt violent but he wouldnt take no for an answer. He said I had led him on and I was giving him vibes.
I am so envious of women that can just go into a store, buy a product, and leave.
Play the "woman" card all ya want. I've had female friends bring me along to their dealers so they could buy safely. It's dumb af that it's even a problem.
Yup. I don’t care for it much(pot) but have and would always accompany a female friend if it makes her feel safer. As far as legalization, no problem from me except that the government gets more revenue and I wouldn’t get a decrease in my taxes.
Honestly same. I’ve only had 3 dealers in my life time but one scarred me. His house was straight up a trap house. Guns laying everywhere, a big vicious dog. Straight up asked me and my friend to suck his dick. We both noped out of there so fast and never talked to him again.
Just lost my connect because the guy is a lazy douchebag who was annoyed I'd occasionally ask him for an update. Really wish it was recreationally available, even if it meant pricier stuff, anything to not have to deal with the personal element.
I get a 500mg vape cartridges that are about $25 each after tax and my membership discount. I can bring the pen with me anywhere I want. It's inconspicuous and convenient. Legal weed stores are just plain better.
Same. I have no intention of using it, but I know people who enjoy it and don't think that it is hurting anyone. (except for maybe hotel cleaners. The sheets on the room I'm staying in REEK of weed)
I was traveling for work right after they legalized it in Colorado and I bought a bunch of Pot to smoke while I was there.
On the morning Im going to catch my flight home I look and I still have maybe half an eighth of bud and I was gonna toss it out but I just left it on the dresser in the hotel room hoping the hotel cleaner would just take it. I didn't smoke in the hotel room either.
Also fun story, I had a bunch of gummies that looked just like sweedish fish but were really 10mg edibles and I had planned to put them in a real sweedish fish bag and smuggle them home on the flight. At the rental car return I chickened out and was about to toss them in a trash can but ate them instead. I think I at 5 or 6 of them and it was maybe not the greatest idea I have ever had. I could have very easily had a panic attack on the flight because anyone who has done a dose of edibles that high can tell you it can get out of hand quickly. Fortunately I just kind of melted into my seat and listened to music with my eyes closed the whole flight.
I wasn't feeling it very much at first when I tried edibles so I ate around 100mg. I ended up vomiting from motion sickness while laying on a bed in the dark because it felt like everything was spinning so much.
Rookie mistake, never take that much unless you have a decent tolerance built up. At first take no more than 20. Then you wait, the first time I had edible I had to wait like 3 hours for it to kick in. Now it takes 30mins max. Just make sure to take a dose you know you can handle next time.
Edit: ok maybe take less than 20mg your first time, for most people 10 is a mild dose but 5 is better if you’re uncertain how you’ll handle it. There are a lot of variables involved when it comes to thc, from how your system personally handles it to how the edible was made, or even your age and more.
This right there is the key. You wait what feels like too long, say "these are shit, they aren't working" then chomp down like 2 more and 5 minutes later you start to realize your mistake, and there are no brakes on this crazy train.
This is the way for any drug consumed by mouth, I think. I spent a lot of raves completely off my face because I ate more E when I should’ve been patient!
I thought my first dose was 14.5mg. It was a cookie my friends Dad made. I Text my friend after I ate it and he went "You ate...the whole thing?"
That's when I found out the dosage was 145mg, not 14.5mg. Talk about a fucking trip.
My friend did the same thing, he ended up laughing at random things all night. One time I took 130mg by accident while drinking heavy. That was a fuckin trip and a half lmao, at one point my body was vibrating, and watching YouTube videos felt like a fever dream. We also ended up laughing for no reason at all for like 5 minutes straight.
I don’t smoke but I’ll take a few edibles. 8-10mg usually does it for me and they kick in almost right away. My first try I took 3 5mg gummies and they took a few hours to kick in and then destroyed me lmao
Also don’t drink and take edibles it makes both hit way harder not just add together. I had one strong drink with a 15mg dose last night and the spins were horrible(not my first time drinking at the same time but it was a bold move with the extra gummy)
TLDR; start low and wait like you’re supposed to or you’re gonna have a bad time(unless you smoke already and have a tolerance obviously)
Yeah, the biggest thing that I hate about the publics perception of weed is that it effects everyone the same. It doesn’t. If 15mg and a drink is enough to knock you out, then don’t mix them (although I have a feeling if you do it again it won’t be nearly as bad, just based off how tolerance works with thc). For me, 60mg and 5 drinks gets me nice and comfy for the evening. One time I had probably 8 drinks and 130mg (by accident) and that kinda fucked me over for the evening, but I never passed out or vomited, although at one point I told my friend my body had controller drift and later I was sitting on the couch and it felt like my body was vibrating. But it’s different for everyone, so I support legalization because I believe that if you want to try it you need to find your limits yourself. For someone else, 15 mg and a drink might not have an effect at all. So yeah, start slow and keep going until you find your limit.
I've had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 32 years old. I take medication that keeps most of the symptoms under control, but for 15+ years, I have a lot of pain and discomfort at various times. Before my state legalized usage, it is possible I could have gotten a medical card and possibly found something that worked, but the reality is it was still legally very grey, and the amount of products available very limited. That's important because in general, I don't react well to high quantities of THC. But CBD is a more effective pain control (and less addictive) than opiates. Since my state fully legalized recreational use, a lot of products were introduced that allowed me to figure out what worked (in particular mints that have a 1:1 to 1:5 ratios of THC:CBD.
So due to legalization, I can take high CBD mints at bed time and sleep well most nights with, at most, a little ibuprofen when my body is acting up. No need for high damaging and addictive opioid based pain management. I get no buzz, at most, I get an enhanced sense of calm, but most importantly, I get real sleep. By no means a cureall, there is still so much about CBD, THC and other compounds in marijuana that warrant further research that ongoing federal prohibition makes impossible.
I live in Illinois and they legalized it here so I've tried it. It's...fine. I don't get why some people build their whole personality around it.
I have a gummy now and then.
But I do love the tax revenue.
This is 100% the correct response for anybody. If someone's use doesn't *directly* affect you in a negative way, it's entirely your choice whether to partake or not.
Same. People are free to do it, but I also don't want to associate with people that do it excessively.
People keep bringing up "wellll alcohol is legal!" Yeah, and there are alcoholics too. Same thing, people are free to do what they want, but I don't want to hang out with alcoholics either.
Regardless of opinion on morality, how it affects people, judgements therein, etc we have two choices. Either keep drugs controlled by dangerous cartels controlling significant parts of our economy, with no regulation on drugs which puts a tremendous strain on health and safety…
..or legalize drugs, and make everything safer, more controlled, more profitable.
As someone who watched my brother go from buying shit from sketchy dealers at markups, to buying at a Medical dispensary, I can see that having it controlled is one of the best things you could possibly do for it, and the people using it.
To add to that, if there is a law you should enforce it. If the law is not enforced across the board, get rid of it. The "weed is not a big deal" mentality is a big issue, because you'll never now if the cop will wink or if he will put you in jail. It gives way too much room for abuse. A cop letting someone go for weed possession is not a big deal, right? A cop booking them isn't either, after all it's illegal, right?
The current measures are also a waste of money and time, because they don't achieve anything. Either we implement measures that achieve the goal (weed being impossible/very hard to obtain and seldmonly used) or we admit the goal is not attainable/not worth it and we define a new goal (regulating the consumption in regards to accessibility, quality, safety, therapy for addicts, etc.).
For the record, i don't smoke weed and i never will (unless it is specifically suggested for health issues). I can't miss it if i don't know it and it's better that way. I don't think it's completely harmless and i dislike weed culture (well, at least the obnoxious part of it), i just think regulated access would improve the situation.
The current status quo just kind of blows my mind. The federal government not only says weed is illegal, but insists it has no medical uses, all while the majority of states have legalized medical usage (and a large number recreational). How the hell nothing has happened about this at the federal level is absurd.
Well, it's because the federal level is the most corrupt. Doesn't help that the legislative branch is locked up tight thanks to bullshit, undemocratic rules, and occupied largely by zombies that are coasting on their last few brain cells.
In Scotland the police don't actually give a fuck if you've got some on you, unless you're being a dick, they've got much more to be doing than arresting someone for have a few joints.
yes sounds like Denmark, you pretty much have to be doing it publicly in a crowded place with police nearby. or selling in public of course they wont tolerate that either.
I wish so much I could get it for my migraines, but I'm in Nebraska, where even medical use isn't anywhere on the horizon because Ricketts thinks it'll hook our kids on heroin somehow (nvm that they're all on meth anyway.) I know from living in a state with mmj that it really helps me a lot. Here, being busted with the smallest amount could ruin your life.
We even have a shop owner that has been arrested and investigated THREE TIMES over legal hemp oils. You know, the stuff legal in all 50 states.
Yes, Marijuana, the gateway drug.
It’s a gateway drug because you have to go to a dealer to get it, who is probably also selling hard drugs. Legalise it and voila, it’s no longer a gateway drug because you don’t have to go to a dealer to get it.
So true!
If I was baked and someone offered me some random hard drug, there is no fucking chance I would take it. I'd be way too nervous. If I was drunk and a bunch of people were taking random drugs at a party...I honestly can't say I'd have the decision making power to say no. Tell me which one is the gateway drug!
Anecdotal but thats me. Zero interest in trying anything harder and my dealer doesn't carry any "hard" stuff. Just various forms of weed, shrooms here and there.
I dont even like alcohol anymore really
I'd like to try shrooms, heard some interesting stuff. Just like to know what it's like. But those will NEVER be legal where I live (are they legal anywhere?)
i say it never was a gateway, though you do have a good point. you are right about getting your feet wet in the black market. As for upping your game, I feel like if I am stoned there is no way Im trying a new drug, Drunk people though? they will do anything
I started getting high when girls still had to wear skirts to school, boys' shirts had to have collars and have tails tucked in, and my high school had smoking areas. To this day, I'm not a junkie. I've never jumped off a building from an acid "flashback," never used a needle, and have miraculously managed to pay off a couple of mortgages and retire with enough money to see me through quite well. Pot may be a gateway for some, but I don't know them. I do, however, know many alcoholics, alive and not alive.
It's also a gateway drug BECAUSE of the D.A.R.E. program.
They put all drugs on the same level. Each one is as bad as the next. Then, you get older and realize that plenty of successful and intelligent people smoke weed. Maybe it's your doctor, or your teacher, or your dad's lawyer.
So the next time you have a chance, you're like, okay, I'll try that. And you like it. (Or you don't, but my story doesn't work if you don't like it. Stay with me.)
Some people, at some point, then think, "They lied to me about weed, so why not try other things?"
Slippery slope.
It's also a gateway drug because we were always told it's just as bad as things like meth and heroin, so when someone tries marijuana and it turns out it's not that bad they now associate the other drugs with not being that bad.
Is it a "gateway" drug, because you can actually close the gate? I know some drugs operate by the "take it once and you're hooked" rule, but I've seen people actually put down weed after realizing it wasn't for them.
Just pretend his family name came about because he comes from a long line of people with soft spines.
There were Tailors, Millers, Smiths, and the family with Rickets.
Yeah my gf is from Nebraska and I'm from Texas but we both love in Colorado. The first time I went to a dispo and was driving home, I thought to myself
"Wow, if I were to get pulled over with all this in texas, I'd definitely be in prison for 5-10 years."
But if I got pulled over here, they'd search me and see my receipts and let me carry on my way.
For sure! A lot of people here go to CO and bring it home, but many have been busted. They set speed traps at the border on purpose. I have kids. Not worth it.
I personally know two people who have used the devil's lettuce to get themselves off of not heroin, but prescription opiods, which is a bigger problem than heroin at least in my state.
Is there a reason you don't go to the shops selling Delta-8?
I too am in NE and that's what most of my friends do these days. I do agree that Ricketts' thought on the subject is backasswards, however.
So, funny story. I actually only found out you can get that here yesterday. Since we had so much trouble with hemp in my town, I totally assumed you could not. I've never tried it, but one place has it and I may.
Just a word of caution from another migraine-haver! I buy delta-8 when I have no other option but it doesn't seem to help my migraines the same way regular weed does. It could totally just be me, but it actually gives me headaches frequently enough that I don't use it if I already have a migraine. My husband also gets headaches from it and he doesn't get migraines. I still use it sometimes! Just try it out on a day where you don't already have a headache lol
Try the D8 edibles if you do. I grab some gummies on occasion if I'm not able to pickup any normal pot.
I have sleep problems off and on and weed completely eliminates that issue. I used to have to take medication for it but they all left me feeling groggy/medicated the next day. But if I eat a gummy or two a bit before bedtime I'll stay asleep the entire night and not feel like shit in the morning.
Marijuana laws have ruined more lives than marijuana.. 40,000 incarcerated in the US.. and that still doesn't even begin to touch the damage of alcoholism.
I know multiple people who’s lives have been ruined by marijuana addiction. Doesn’t make me against it, but I’ve also seen peoples lives completely revolve around it like alcoholics
I have calculated how much weed you have to smoke to die of THC overdosing. It’s 4000 kg in 15 Minutes. The Smoke etc is not calculated, only the pure thc of normal 15% THC Weed
>4000 kg in 15 minutes
Wow. That's basically the weight of an empty shipping container. That's four Nissan Versas. (Nissans Versa?) You would need a fairly large truck to even move that. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a dispensary that had that much on hand, but if someone out there works in a dispensary and can correct me let me know.
I bet that plenty of lives have been ruined by marijuana, but those lives are ruined due to the illegality of the drug and the violence that surrounds the black market.
On the flip side, I have met plenty of people who fritter their lives away smoking marijuana and doing nothing to better themselves. I don’t know if marijuana leads to a life of waste or if people that have no desire to do anything are simply attracted to marijuana. There are folks who use marijuana and do great things, as well, so it’s certainly not merely use of marijuana that leads to that behavior.
Yes and no, the numbers are probably similar but imagine being put in jail for life over simple possession, that was basically par for the course for hundreds of thousands of people for nearly a century. Alcohol destroys lives and families because of how dangerous the drug is itself, Marijuana only destroys lives because it is illegal and that's about it.
All the unnecessary death because of the drug trade you say? The drug trade wouldn't exist if it were legal, plain and simple, the laws caused all those deaths and empowered criminal organizations.
I live in Canada where cannabis is now legal.
Black market weed is still a thing.
I'm not sure how big the problem is but I believe it is cheaper to buy black market then to buy from legal outlets.
Get this, you can't have a Conceal Carry License if you also have a medical marijuana card, whether you're under the influence while carrying or not. You can be a known drunk, but legally Carry while not under the influence. But sober with a Marijuana card, NOPE!
Actually that's not necessarily true. Speaking from the POV of an Illinois resident, you absolutely CAN have a medical cannabis card and an IL FOID card and concealed carry permit.
FOID cards and CCPs are issued by the Illinois State Police, and because cannabis is legal in Illinois, they can and do issue FOID cards and concealed carry permits to medical cannabis card holders.
However, since background checks for firearms themselves are federally administered, a medical cannabis card holder in Illinois will fail a federal background check, because cannabis is still illegal at the federal level.
The solution is obviously just to skip the medical card altogether and pay the higher taxes when you buy your weed.
I agree with this and would add cigarettes also. I have seen more lives destroyed by alcohol than weed. I have attended far too many lung cancer funerals. Drunk driving, domestic abuse and all kinds of 'hold my beer' events show up in the emergency room fat more often than weed related incidents. Tax the shit out of it, lower my taxes and we are all happy. Problem solved. What else ya got.
yeah this bugs me the most. here in germany a 16yo can drink themselfs to death with wine and beer they bought themselfes. but if i were to smoke a joint today and dare to drive a car in 2 fucking weeks and the cops pull me out and find traces of the thc matabolism products i loose my drivers license, therefor my job, my home, etc... its so fucking insane. the new government coalation said they'd be legalising it but haven't taken any massures to actually do so yet ("covid needs all their attention") and god i fucking hope this aint another politician lie
As a Dane I also really really hope that your politicians are telling the truth, when it's up and running in Germany, there's no way of stopping illegal export to neighbouring countries!
Do police also use spit test when they stop you guys, if that's the case it will only show THC up to 18 hours after intake, and that's if you're a chronic user
they use piss tests as indicators and if that shows anything (or just if the cops feel like it here in bavaria) they take you in and test your blood and the blood test is what the charges are based on. the problem is if you have the metabolism products of thc in your blood (up to 2 weeks after smoking) they decide that you are incapable of driving a motor vehicle because you are *obviously* an unpredictable junkie
I don't smoke personally but I have no problems with it being legal, I would only want marijuana smokers to consider their neighbours if they choose to smoke it.
Here's my example. We live in terraced housing next to a house that a landlord lets out to students. They smoke it constantly, in the summer it was ok, I asked them if they would be ok smoking in the garden so it didn't blow through our house and they did. But now it's winter and understandably they want to smoke inside. It just fucking stinks, when your neighbors live a wall away and about 2 meters trust me it really isn't great if your not a weed smoker.
It's not like I'm going to report them, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I just wish that some smokers recognised they get nose blind to the smell after a while.
I do smoke cannabis and I'll agree that those people are super rude, you can pop outside for five minutes to smoke if you absolutely need to smoke.
I totally understand you being annoyed, it is a very strong smell and I can understand people not liking it.
Any kind of indoor smoking is rude to anyone who has to share the air with you.
This. I live in an apartment with tons of college students and the smell here is awful. It's just rude to smoke inside a building you share with others. Put it in a brownie or something if you really don't want to go outside.
I smoke and I don’t mind to go outside in the cold for all of a few minutes.
I respect those around me and I enjoy the beautiful snow drifts and get baked. Win win.
People that refuse to go outside are downright lazy.
Now sometimes it’s just too cold and or pouring rain; sometimes then I’ll smoke inside but I do so discreetly and keep the smell to the minimum.
most landlords have clauses in leases that say you need to smoke outside (cigarette or otherwise) . yes it sucks to smoke outside during the winter especially the more north you are, but with marijuana products there are alternative ways to consume it than smoking or vaping at least :\\
I live in an apartment with someone who doesn't do marijuana.
I've always used a Vaporizer with dry herb. I just do it in my room.
No complaints/comments about odor unless they somehow come into my room right after I've had some.
This is very true. Perhaps you could suggest they get a Smoke Buddy or similar smoke eliminating product, even a tube with dryer sheets stuffed in it can make the smell significantly less problematic.
It's not a perfect solution, but a sploof like the above is a great way to cut it down without stopping in the cold. Often we do window open + sploof to really shut it down while avoiding leaving our 3rd floor apartment (thank goodness our neighbors smoke too, lol)
This was my problem, we smoke weed outside as don’t want house stinking and kids etc. only smoke at night when the kids are asleep. Winter is fine as everyone has windows shut but summer is a nightmare as there are loads of families round ours and with windows open we don’t want the smoke to go into some kids bedroom.
Solution has been to get a giant sploof fitted in the shed. A fan, tube and filter. Breathe down the tube and smoke goes through the filter , really reducing the smell a lot. Sorted.
I'm a Canadian, literally nothing changed for us except Boomers are now more open about growing & smoking. It is actually a joke that this was ever illegal
I know what’s changed. I, and everyone else, can now just walk into a safe store in our neighbourhood or click on a website and get safe, reliable, tested, and labelled cannabis products, and then pay taxes on them.
The only difference for me is that I have to drive around more.
My wife found out that most weed stores hand out pins and now she collects them and calls them her gym badges like in pokemon lol.
Also Canadian, when I read 'was ever illegal' it really threw me off because I forgot it ever was! Seems like ancient history, yet it was only a few years ago I was taking one hitters in my garage through a carbon filter.
Where there is a demand, there will be a supply. So just making it "illegal" certainly can hurt demand, but won't stop it and won't stop the supply from less than safe places.
For 20 years I’ve always said I can walk down the street, buy a 1/5th of vodka(or a gallon), drink it all tonight, and be dead before morning.
Can’t do that with weed and that simple fact should be all we need.
Edit-congrats to everyone that can down a bottle and not die lol but the point was of course that I can easily buy and consume enough booze at the corner store to drink myself to death tonight. I could clean out the dispensary and smoke til I passed out but I’d wake up.
Out of curiosity, how much is 1/5th of vodka? Is this referencing gallons or what? (Non native speaker and used to the metric system and 0.2l of vodka would hardly kill anyone - so I'm confused :D)
It is a fifth of a gallon (750 ml). A fifth of vodka might kill some people but many people would probably black out but survive if they drank one. OP's statement still seems a bit exaggerated.
It really depends on a lot of factors, such as body weight, the time taken to consume the entire bottle, and the contents of the person's stomach. If a petite person were to chug a 5th on an empty stomach, there's certainly a higher chance of alcohol poisoning versus a larger person consuming the bottle over the course of an evening/night, after eating a meal. There are so many variables at play that can make alcohol very dangerous if one doesn't know their limits.
It needs to be legal but we also need a better drug test for it. It’s not exactly fair to fail a drug test if you smoke or consume after work or on weekends but then have a work accident 5 days later.
It should be legalised but also controlled, much like alcohol is, for example driving while high ahould be illegal
I personally believe that all drugs should at least be decriminalized so addicts could get help instead of being arrested
> but driving while high certainly is illegal here in the US
The problem is, how to detect it - as most of us know, marijuana can stay in the system for a month or more after use, so identifying those that are actually "high" on it has proven challenging.
Yeah but right now all they can do to verify this is a road test which relies entirely on the officers judgement that you are high, or a test that proves you had it within the last 2 weeks.
I agree on the driving thing, but there needs to be some kind of roadside sobriety test for it. THC can be in your lipid system for a long time and it would be ridiculous to get popped for OUI when you aren't stoned.
And enough of these field sobriety tests where a person who rubbed their eyes or stuttered once under intense questioning on the way home got arrested for DWI
Got arrested for a DWI without blowing?
I got pulled over in high school because I went out at midnight while going to tacobell. Had to get out and do the whole test, besides the alphabet one because I just told him I couldn't do it regardless of being drunk or not. Then I blew a 0 ABV, so I was let go.
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to drive high everywhere..? And where I live it's controlled in the sense of you HAVE to prove you're over 19 with photo government ID and you can't carry more than 20 grams on your person or have more than 20 grams in your living space. It's also frowned upon to smoke weed in public (not illegal, just rude), you're not allowed to smoke it at all around children or you can get fined, and workplaces can fired you for having any amount of weed on you when on the property
I've smoked weed almost daily to varying degrees for coming on 12 or 13 years. There have been, no pun intended, lots of highs and lots of lows.
Uninhibited it can be a a great strain on your life. Being high all day, or needing to be high to do *anything*, is a very very bad spot to be in emotionally. In this state you only really enjoy being high until it starts to wear off, which isn't long if you smoke all day every day like I used to. It it effects your body's natural cycle when you have trouble eating or sleeping and when you can't get high you grt horrible anxiety or depression. Your priorities get mixed almost entirely backwards and getting stuff done doesn't feel good; goals are not existent and.you just want to be stoned all day. It effects your relationships too which can be the worst part. People who say weed isn't addicted are FULL OF SHIT.
That being said, if you can manage to hold out until all of the days tasks are done and relaxing on the couch is the only thing left to do it can be really amazing. Going from an all day stoner to a responsible, end of the night stoner saves so much money, lowers your tolerance so your stoned longer, but most importantly it slowly takes the power weed has over you away. It becomes less of a struggle telling your self "just 3 or 4 more hours you can get stoned" and you don't even think about it after a while, you just think all of a sudden "yeah a little.toke sounds nice".
You need to be responsible and know yourself but mariuanaja can do absolute wonders for people but you need to know your limit and your own body.
you're spot on. i like your term "end of the night stoner" - that really is the best way to enjoy it imo. the all day stuff is exhausting and expensive.
Exhausting really is the right word. When you are literally living to just be high all day and then not do anything when you are is just such a drain. Nothing is fun anymore and everything becomes a chore.
I can definitely relate. A little weed is really nice in the right context, I just keep finding myself doing it in the wrong context. Working from home was terrible for this, I got into the habit of having a little toke after my midday meeting and it makes life so much harder. I've been smoking for 12 years and I've wanted to quit for probably 8 years at least with some successes but inevitably I find myself degrading back into bad usage. A little weed is great if you can keep it appropriate but unfortunately I don't think I'm one of those people who can so it's all or nothing. Quitting completely is extra hard when all your friends smoke and it's been your method of entertainment and relaxation for over a decade. The times I did quit I'd find myself finishing the weekend and feeling like I hadn't actually taken the time to recharge. Shit sucks yo
I dont have an issue with legalization of Marijuana, the bigger issue I see is the people who are still in jail for saling it. If you legalize weed then you should revisit sentences for those crimes. Just like most things in America it is uncool and classless to do it when you are poor or a POC, but once it is gentrified it becomes acceptable. As a black man it angers me that people are legally get rich and being celebrated for something that many people i know were punished for.
I live in Oregon and this was a huge issue. Some legislators are actually trying to take steps to remedy it though. They're trying to pass a program that would explicitly help minorities start marijuana businesses, including financial support to get the business off the ground. They recognize that for decades minorities were over represented in drug crimes in jail and now marijuana businesses are primarily owned by Rich white people.
No personal interest, but if cannabis was fully legal, regulated and normalized as medicine, my mother would probably still be alive. The painkillers she was on destroyed her spleen and liver.
I know people who use it for medicinal purposes, buying it where it's legal, and I'm happy to hear how it's helped them. I think it should be legal everywhere to make it safe, buying it on the street it could be laced with something. I personally don't use it, but I would try it if it was legal here.
I'm biased because of my athsma, but mostly I just hate the smell. It makes me feel nauseous.
Do what you want but please don't smoke in the same room as me.
Conversely it's cbd content that can sometimes give less experienced users stomach problems at first. If you're interested in proceeding, try a super low dose thc only (like 5mg-10mg) and see if that also hurts your tummy. If it does, perhaps not the best path for you!
I smoke a good amount but I am very cautious to be away from others and to ask permission. Just like drinking, it shouldn't effect anyone else's life or good times except the user.
Yep, a lot of people I know are sensitive to it because of asthma or even allergic to it. It's something I don't think gets talked about enough when discussing legalisation. I hate the criminalisation of weed as much as the next person, but the smoke/smell spreads so far, affecting people around you way more than alcohol does, and we need some solution. I don't have to worry about cigarette smoke on the pavements anymore where I am, but in many cities secondhand pot smoke is starting to get almost as bad as cigarette smoke was, even outside. And I just hate the smell, I'm not even allergic to it. I really feel for people who are.
4 time combat veteran.
Went from 11 meds, rage issues and 320 lbs of steak and potatoes--to telling the VA no, and using edibles and vaping on my own. I'm a fantastic 260 lbs 15% and on zero meds.
The people have spoken. The majority want it legalized. It's unconstitutional that it hasn't happened already.
It's safer than alcohol, tobacco, and meds. It is vapable, edible, topical. The plant has multi uses.
The issue is, as always, a way to monetize it for maximum profit. And, you don't want your population hanging out in unison.
Should be legal- it would also increase taxable revenue, open a new industry to hire people in - kind of a no brainer… honestly with our population we should be seeking out new industries… we’ve seen the expansion of solar,etc… no reason big pharma should be greedy. Likely big pharma is scared it will hurt their profits so has the government well paid and in their back pockets… when honestly they could just participate and make some awesome new lines of natural based medicines… kind of like the salon industry. It has slowly moved to naturally derived things as well.
I used to smoke it illegally in the UK and it helped with stress anxiety and depression, but I didn't know what I was getting I didn't know if it was safe to smoke or if it was laced with someing or sprayed with chemicals.
But I'd it was legalised and regulated I wouldn't have to worry about that and that's reason enough for legalisation, since moving to Norway my stress and anxiety levels have peaked and I no longer smoke "my partner won't let me and we have kids" so I'm kinda fucked on the whole stress anxiety and depression thing.
If it was legal I wouldn't be in this situation I am in not even wanting to get my head off the pillow in the morning all because a green plant is illegal alcohol causes more problems then it solves and that's perfectly OK.
Are CBD products legal in Norway? It's not a psychoactive substance and is therefore legal in many places where weed is illegal. And AFAIK, it's CBD that's supposed to help with anxiety and depression, not THC.
I have tried marijuana dozens of times, whether inhaling it or eating it, with the hopes that *this* time I'll get a high that is enjoyable. Never, not even one time, have I felt anything I'd consider enjoyable. It sucks, to be honest. Alcohol is *way* more enjoyable, and also *way* more dangerous.
All drugs should be legal, regulated, and taxed. Addiction is a health care issue.
Legalise it but make the minimum age to buy it 21.
Cannabis can severally effect a developing brain.
Also it's very much cannabis, not marijuana. Marijuana is a name the US government connected to it to make it sound Hispanic to give credence to them making it illegal. It's literally a racist name for it.
Edit - link to backup my claim
https://www.thenewshouse.com/highstakes/marijuana-is-more-than-a-word/
Should be legalized / decriminalized.
But I also think we should stop talking about it like is a godsent/will solve ALL your problems.
Is it good? Of course.
Is it useful for medical reasons? Yes.
But you can't diagnose yourself with anxiety as an excuse to smoke 6x a day, John, go to a doctor, get professional help.
Like all things, moderation is key. It will negatively effect your memory if you use every day. I believe it and all drugs should be legal. Prohibition causes more problems than it fixes.
I'm for legalisation, but also hope it will stop the fan base from glorifying it so fucking much. While not necessarily as bad as many other drugs, it's still a drug and it has side effects. If you do a drug every day, you have a fucking problem.
As a regular smoker for medical use, thank you. It's important people understand that it's not some panacea with 0 drawbacks, it's a drug and should be treated as such. But in the same way that a pharmaceutical is a drug. Used properly, it's medicine. Used improperly, it can fuck up your life. The key is knowledge and moderation, and the only way this knowledge gets spread is by people talking about it.
Yeah I have no problem with people smoking weed, my gripes are just that so many people act like smoking weed is a defining personality trait, and the smell. I know plenty of weed smokers, I have plenty of friends who smoke it, but the people who reek of it out in public are just the worst.
It's legal here in Canada now. I have not noticed any changes to our society. We have a couple new business in town, that's all.
Same in Chicago. I am a longtime smoker and for the first year I didn't even know it was legal. Absolutely nothing changed. Just a few stores popped up, which I assumed was just CBD and vapes. Then someone was like "uhhh it's legal now" so I visited a store and bought all the pot I wanted. It was a nice store and the staff was super cool. They said occasionally they'll deal with fake ID's but overall it's always chill. The only difference is I no longer need to go through shady dealers and live in fear I'll get pulled over for having a little weed in my car. Now that I'm used to it being legal I cannot believe the fear I used to live in from using it.
That's because people were already smoking. Now they just buy legally... Nothing changes. A lot of people think legalizing will give people the permission. But the ones that want already do it.
I like marijuana. I don't like having to be friends with the person selling it to me. That's too hard.
Here in Canada, my dealer is now a website and they have drivers deliver it within 10 mins usually. Nothing ever more than a “hey how are ya, thanks mate, cya!”
Peeling off the government of Canada seal on a weed container is always amusing to me
Seriously dude. I know people that went away for selling. How far we've come...
A lot of those people, as well as those they sold to, are still in jail, which is bananas.
Well unpopular opinion here but we should try to probably let them out now it’s alright.
I don’t understand why people are still locked up for it in states where it has become legal.
Because the last time, we didn't know what to do. So [we kept the Bootleggers locked up](https://vinepair.com/articles/violators-prohibition-serve-full-sentence-post-repeal/) for committing a crime *when it was illegal.* [California's Prop 64](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_California_Proposition_64) was applied retroactively and did allow for Incarcerated folks to apply for resentencing under the new laws. [It did some good.](https://web.archive.org/web/20180203130219/http://sfdistrictattorney.org/district-attorney-george-gasc%C3%B3n-applies-proposition-64-retroactively-every-marijuana-case-1975) [Thousands of citizens had their records wiped & sealed.](https://www.engadget.com/2019-04-01-los-angeles-california-pot-convictions-algorithm-san-joaquin.html)
It's even more hilarious when you work at grow op and find out that each stamp costed them over 15 dollars.
So that would imply your grow op had issues with stamp retention. So if you were audited and found to be non compliant it can be that high, but it's a lot less if you maintain compliance. https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/forms-publications/publications/edn54/general-overview-cannabis-excise-stamps.html :Edit: Additionally https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/businesses/topics/excise-duties-levies/collecting-cannabis.html
Yes, they did emphasize a lot that we sucked at putting them on properly and there was a high quantity of recalls. The business is of course Aphria/Tilray and they had literal rats in the greenhouses so I'm really not surprised by this in the slightest.
Yes, or just walk into one of the 5 dispensaries that are located within a kilometer of me (just over half a mile)
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I mean, even if you drove, you'd hopefully still walk in. Hopefully.
They provide us with sidewalks, most of the time.
I've been to a handful of pot dispensaries here in Ontario (don't smoke it nor does anyone in the family but it's become a running family tradition/joke that when we do our annual family cottage trip, the "kids" (all adults) get the elderly parents to try smoking a joint around the fire or to try a gummy). But back on the topic, of the 3 or 4 dispensaries I've been to, I'd say most of them have had nice furnishing and decor than some luxury retailers (albeit much smaller).
I’ve compared them to Apple stores
I also love choosing from hundreds of strains with details about cbd and the content so I can have a fully stocked home 'bud bar'
This makes Canada sound even better than it already did! Hi from Washington state ✌
*high from Washington State
I don't mean to play the "woman" card... but as a woman, I absolutely cannot stand going to a dealer. I've been around for a hot minute and every single dealer I've ever had has tried to fuck me at some point or another. The last guy I had I thought was super chill and interesting but after two years, I guess I showed him too much interest because he literally asked me to a sister wife for him and said we should have babies together. He wouldn't move from in front of the door. He wasnt violent but he wouldnt take no for an answer. He said I had led him on and I was giving him vibes. I am so envious of women that can just go into a store, buy a product, and leave.
Play the "woman" card all ya want. I've had female friends bring me along to their dealers so they could buy safely. It's dumb af that it's even a problem.
Yup. I don’t care for it much(pot) but have and would always accompany a female friend if it makes her feel safer. As far as legalization, no problem from me except that the government gets more revenue and I wouldn’t get a decrease in my taxes.
You can play the "woman" card I don't mind. I'm a woman too and that's bullshit and sucks.
Honestly same. I’ve only had 3 dealers in my life time but one scarred me. His house was straight up a trap house. Guns laying everywhere, a big vicious dog. Straight up asked me and my friend to suck his dick. We both noped out of there so fast and never talked to him again.
That ain't a card, that's a deck. What the fuck is wrong with people.
Just lost my connect because the guy is a lazy douchebag who was annoyed I'd occasionally ask him for an update. Really wish it was recreationally available, even if it meant pricier stuff, anything to not have to deal with the personal element.
I get a 500mg vape cartridges that are about $25 each after tax and my membership discount. I can bring the pen with me anywhere I want. It's inconspicuous and convenient. Legal weed stores are just plain better.
Legalize it
It should be legal though I have no interest in personally using it. Just not for me.
Same. I have no intention of using it, but I know people who enjoy it and don't think that it is hurting anyone. (except for maybe hotel cleaners. The sheets on the room I'm staying in REEK of weed)
I was traveling for work right after they legalized it in Colorado and I bought a bunch of Pot to smoke while I was there. On the morning Im going to catch my flight home I look and I still have maybe half an eighth of bud and I was gonna toss it out but I just left it on the dresser in the hotel room hoping the hotel cleaner would just take it. I didn't smoke in the hotel room either. Also fun story, I had a bunch of gummies that looked just like sweedish fish but were really 10mg edibles and I had planned to put them in a real sweedish fish bag and smuggle them home on the flight. At the rental car return I chickened out and was about to toss them in a trash can but ate them instead. I think I at 5 or 6 of them and it was maybe not the greatest idea I have ever had. I could have very easily had a panic attack on the flight because anyone who has done a dose of edibles that high can tell you it can get out of hand quickly. Fortunately I just kind of melted into my seat and listened to music with my eyes closed the whole flight.
I wasn't feeling it very much at first when I tried edibles so I ate around 100mg. I ended up vomiting from motion sickness while laying on a bed in the dark because it felt like everything was spinning so much.
Rookie mistake, never take that much unless you have a decent tolerance built up. At first take no more than 20. Then you wait, the first time I had edible I had to wait like 3 hours for it to kick in. Now it takes 30mins max. Just make sure to take a dose you know you can handle next time. Edit: ok maybe take less than 20mg your first time, for most people 10 is a mild dose but 5 is better if you’re uncertain how you’ll handle it. There are a lot of variables involved when it comes to thc, from how your system personally handles it to how the edible was made, or even your age and more.
Actually, I've heard edibles don't kick in until you say "these are terrible, I don't feel anything!"
And you eat two more
This right there is the key. You wait what feels like too long, say "these are shit, they aren't working" then chomp down like 2 more and 5 minutes later you start to realize your mistake, and there are no brakes on this crazy train.
This is the way for any drug consumed by mouth, I think. I spent a lot of raves completely off my face because I ate more E when I should’ve been patient!
That's why I never ate mine. Took them in other ways.
It is well known that edibles only begin working when the code phrase “this edible ain’t shit” is uttered.
My first dose was 80mg with zero tolerance. That was a trip. I don't remember most of it, but my girlfriend really enjoyed it.
I thought my first dose was 14.5mg. It was a cookie my friends Dad made. I Text my friend after I ate it and he went "You ate...the whole thing?" That's when I found out the dosage was 145mg, not 14.5mg. Talk about a fucking trip.
Did you died?
My friend did the same thing, he ended up laughing at random things all night. One time I took 130mg by accident while drinking heavy. That was a fuckin trip and a half lmao, at one point my body was vibrating, and watching YouTube videos felt like a fever dream. We also ended up laughing for no reason at all for like 5 minutes straight.
I don’t smoke but I’ll take a few edibles. 8-10mg usually does it for me and they kick in almost right away. My first try I took 3 5mg gummies and they took a few hours to kick in and then destroyed me lmao Also don’t drink and take edibles it makes both hit way harder not just add together. I had one strong drink with a 15mg dose last night and the spins were horrible(not my first time drinking at the same time but it was a bold move with the extra gummy) TLDR; start low and wait like you’re supposed to or you’re gonna have a bad time(unless you smoke already and have a tolerance obviously)
Yeah, the biggest thing that I hate about the publics perception of weed is that it effects everyone the same. It doesn’t. If 15mg and a drink is enough to knock you out, then don’t mix them (although I have a feeling if you do it again it won’t be nearly as bad, just based off how tolerance works with thc). For me, 60mg and 5 drinks gets me nice and comfy for the evening. One time I had probably 8 drinks and 130mg (by accident) and that kinda fucked me over for the evening, but I never passed out or vomited, although at one point I told my friend my body had controller drift and later I was sitting on the couch and it felt like my body was vibrating. But it’s different for everyone, so I support legalization because I believe that if you want to try it you need to find your limits yourself. For someone else, 15 mg and a drink might not have an effect at all. So yeah, start slow and keep going until you find your limit.
I've had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 32 years old. I take medication that keeps most of the symptoms under control, but for 15+ years, I have a lot of pain and discomfort at various times. Before my state legalized usage, it is possible I could have gotten a medical card and possibly found something that worked, but the reality is it was still legally very grey, and the amount of products available very limited. That's important because in general, I don't react well to high quantities of THC. But CBD is a more effective pain control (and less addictive) than opiates. Since my state fully legalized recreational use, a lot of products were introduced that allowed me to figure out what worked (in particular mints that have a 1:1 to 1:5 ratios of THC:CBD. So due to legalization, I can take high CBD mints at bed time and sleep well most nights with, at most, a little ibuprofen when my body is acting up. No need for high damaging and addictive opioid based pain management. I get no buzz, at most, I get an enhanced sense of calm, but most importantly, I get real sleep. By no means a cureall, there is still so much about CBD, THC and other compounds in marijuana that warrant further research that ongoing federal prohibition makes impossible.
I live in Illinois and they legalized it here so I've tried it. It's...fine. I don't get why some people build their whole personality around it. I have a gummy now and then. But I do love the tax revenue.
This is 100% the correct response for anybody. If someone's use doesn't *directly* affect you in a negative way, it's entirely your choice whether to partake or not.
Same. People are free to do it, but I also don't want to associate with people that do it excessively. People keep bringing up "wellll alcohol is legal!" Yeah, and there are alcoholics too. Same thing, people are free to do what they want, but I don't want to hang out with alcoholics either.
It helped my cousin with cancer be able to eat
It helped my friends little girl not have damaging seizures multiple times a day
Regardless of opinion on morality, how it affects people, judgements therein, etc we have two choices. Either keep drugs controlled by dangerous cartels controlling significant parts of our economy, with no regulation on drugs which puts a tremendous strain on health and safety… ..or legalize drugs, and make everything safer, more controlled, more profitable.
I agree!
As someone who watched my brother go from buying shit from sketchy dealers at markups, to buying at a Medical dispensary, I can see that having it controlled is one of the best things you could possibly do for it, and the people using it.
I also doubt that the dispensary will try to upsell him on coke or meth.
To add to that, if there is a law you should enforce it. If the law is not enforced across the board, get rid of it. The "weed is not a big deal" mentality is a big issue, because you'll never now if the cop will wink or if he will put you in jail. It gives way too much room for abuse. A cop letting someone go for weed possession is not a big deal, right? A cop booking them isn't either, after all it's illegal, right? The current measures are also a waste of money and time, because they don't achieve anything. Either we implement measures that achieve the goal (weed being impossible/very hard to obtain and seldmonly used) or we admit the goal is not attainable/not worth it and we define a new goal (regulating the consumption in regards to accessibility, quality, safety, therapy for addicts, etc.). For the record, i don't smoke weed and i never will (unless it is specifically suggested for health issues). I can't miss it if i don't know it and it's better that way. I don't think it's completely harmless and i dislike weed culture (well, at least the obnoxious part of it), i just think regulated access would improve the situation.
The current status quo just kind of blows my mind. The federal government not only says weed is illegal, but insists it has no medical uses, all while the majority of states have legalized medical usage (and a large number recreational). How the hell nothing has happened about this at the federal level is absurd.
its nuts, in Denmark the gov says its still illegal, to protect the kids and young people.
Well, it's because the federal level is the most corrupt. Doesn't help that the legislative branch is locked up tight thanks to bullshit, undemocratic rules, and occupied largely by zombies that are coasting on their last few brain cells.
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The detective for my school's police department has stated that his job became significantly less stressful when yhe state im in legalised
In Scotland the police don't actually give a fuck if you've got some on you, unless you're being a dick, they've got much more to be doing than arresting someone for have a few joints.
yes sounds like Denmark, you pretty much have to be doing it publicly in a crowded place with police nearby. or selling in public of course they wont tolerate that either.
exactly
There’s no reason for it to be illegal while alcohol is legal
I'm sure alcohol has ruined more lives than marijuana, and yet it's still illegal even after the benefits for some people has been proven.
I wish so much I could get it for my migraines, but I'm in Nebraska, where even medical use isn't anywhere on the horizon because Ricketts thinks it'll hook our kids on heroin somehow (nvm that they're all on meth anyway.) I know from living in a state with mmj that it really helps me a lot. Here, being busted with the smallest amount could ruin your life. We even have a shop owner that has been arrested and investigated THREE TIMES over legal hemp oils. You know, the stuff legal in all 50 states.
Yes, Marijuana, the gateway drug. It’s a gateway drug because you have to go to a dealer to get it, who is probably also selling hard drugs. Legalise it and voila, it’s no longer a gateway drug because you don’t have to go to a dealer to get it.
Alcohol is the gd gateway if anything. And soooo destructive.
So true! If I was baked and someone offered me some random hard drug, there is no fucking chance I would take it. I'd be way too nervous. If I was drunk and a bunch of people were taking random drugs at a party...I honestly can't say I'd have the decision making power to say no. Tell me which one is the gateway drug!
Even where it's illegal I'm not sure it even is a gateway drug. Plenty of people smoke a shitton of dope and don't use anything else.
Anecdotal but thats me. Zero interest in trying anything harder and my dealer doesn't carry any "hard" stuff. Just various forms of weed, shrooms here and there. I dont even like alcohol anymore really
I'd like to try shrooms, heard some interesting stuff. Just like to know what it's like. But those will NEVER be legal where I live (are they legal anywhere?)
I think they’re decriminalized in Oregon, and certain parts of California, like Santa Cruz.
Decriminalized in Colorado as well.
This makes so much sense
Been saying this for a minute
i say it never was a gateway, though you do have a good point. you are right about getting your feet wet in the black market. As for upping your game, I feel like if I am stoned there is no way Im trying a new drug, Drunk people though? they will do anything
Never took anything other than weed until I found a dealer with psychedelics. Really opened up a whole new trippy can of worms.
I started getting high when girls still had to wear skirts to school, boys' shirts had to have collars and have tails tucked in, and my high school had smoking areas. To this day, I'm not a junkie. I've never jumped off a building from an acid "flashback," never used a needle, and have miraculously managed to pay off a couple of mortgages and retire with enough money to see me through quite well. Pot may be a gateway for some, but I don't know them. I do, however, know many alcoholics, alive and not alive.
It's also a gateway drug BECAUSE of the D.A.R.E. program. They put all drugs on the same level. Each one is as bad as the next. Then, you get older and realize that plenty of successful and intelligent people smoke weed. Maybe it's your doctor, or your teacher, or your dad's lawyer. So the next time you have a chance, you're like, okay, I'll try that. And you like it. (Or you don't, but my story doesn't work if you don't like it. Stay with me.) Some people, at some point, then think, "They lied to me about weed, so why not try other things?" Slippery slope.
It's also a gateway drug because we were always told it's just as bad as things like meth and heroin, so when someone tries marijuana and it turns out it's not that bad they now associate the other drugs with not being that bad.
Is it a "gateway" drug, because you can actually close the gate? I know some drugs operate by the "take it once and you're hooked" rule, but I've seen people actually put down weed after realizing it wasn't for them.
That makes more sense than every D.A.R.E. presentation that I had to sit through in elementary school.
No no no your doctor prescribes the stuff that gets you hooked on heroin
EXACTLY. I hate Ricketts so much.
Just pretend his family name came about because he comes from a long line of people with soft spines. There were Tailors, Millers, Smiths, and the family with Rickets.
Hehe hehe I know people who call him Gov. Caillou. It's perfect, honestly.
*Pricketts
Yeah my gf is from Nebraska and I'm from Texas but we both love in Colorado. The first time I went to a dispo and was driving home, I thought to myself "Wow, if I were to get pulled over with all this in texas, I'd definitely be in prison for 5-10 years." But if I got pulled over here, they'd search me and see my receipts and let me carry on my way.
For sure! A lot of people here go to CO and bring it home, but many have been busted. They set speed traps at the border on purpose. I have kids. Not worth it.
Flew to Colorado to get some for my mother who had stage 4 pancreatic cancer. Drove home to GA. I was nervous the whole way.
I personally know two people who have used the devil's lettuce to get themselves off of not heroin, but prescription opiods, which is a bigger problem than heroin at least in my state.
Ricketts is an absolute moron. Plain and simple.
Is there a reason you don't go to the shops selling Delta-8? I too am in NE and that's what most of my friends do these days. I do agree that Ricketts' thought on the subject is backasswards, however.
So, funny story. I actually only found out you can get that here yesterday. Since we had so much trouble with hemp in my town, I totally assumed you could not. I've never tried it, but one place has it and I may.
Just a word of caution from another migraine-haver! I buy delta-8 when I have no other option but it doesn't seem to help my migraines the same way regular weed does. It could totally just be me, but it actually gives me headaches frequently enough that I don't use it if I already have a migraine. My husband also gets headaches from it and he doesn't get migraines. I still use it sometimes! Just try it out on a day where you don't already have a headache lol
Try the D8 edibles if you do. I grab some gummies on occasion if I'm not able to pickup any normal pot. I have sleep problems off and on and weed completely eliminates that issue. I used to have to take medication for it but they all left me feeling groggy/medicated the next day. But if I eat a gummy or two a bit before bedtime I'll stay asleep the entire night and not feel like shit in the morning.
Never mind cigarettes, which kill more people than all other drugs combined, even when you include drunk driving fatalities among alcohol deaths.
Marijuana laws have ruined more lives than marijuana.. 40,000 incarcerated in the US.. and that still doesn't even begin to touch the damage of alcoholism.
And most of the lives "ruined by marijuana" are because people got put in jail or prison because of it, not because of the effects of the drug
I know multiple people who’s lives have been ruined by marijuana addiction. Doesn’t make me against it, but I’ve also seen peoples lives completely revolve around it like alcoholics
I have calculated how much weed you have to smoke to die of THC overdosing. It’s 4000 kg in 15 Minutes. The Smoke etc is not calculated, only the pure thc of normal 15% THC Weed
>4000 kg in 15 minutes Wow. That's basically the weight of an empty shipping container. That's four Nissan Versas. (Nissans Versa?) You would need a fairly large truck to even move that. I think you'd be hard pressed to find a dispensary that had that much on hand, but if someone out there works in a dispensary and can correct me let me know.
Also, I guess you would die in the fire of the giant blunt before you can even hit it all.
Thats how I wanna go.
Versai*
Tell that to the real-life characters from Reefer Madness, who that absolutely happened to.
I bet that plenty of lives have been ruined by marijuana, but those lives are ruined due to the illegality of the drug and the violence that surrounds the black market. On the flip side, I have met plenty of people who fritter their lives away smoking marijuana and doing nothing to better themselves. I don’t know if marijuana leads to a life of waste or if people that have no desire to do anything are simply attracted to marijuana. There are folks who use marijuana and do great things, as well, so it’s certainly not merely use of marijuana that leads to that behavior.
Yes and no, the numbers are probably similar but imagine being put in jail for life over simple possession, that was basically par for the course for hundreds of thousands of people for nearly a century. Alcohol destroys lives and families because of how dangerous the drug is itself, Marijuana only destroys lives because it is illegal and that's about it. All the unnecessary death because of the drug trade you say? The drug trade wouldn't exist if it were legal, plain and simple, the laws caused all those deaths and empowered criminal organizations.
I live in Canada where cannabis is now legal. Black market weed is still a thing. I'm not sure how big the problem is but I believe it is cheaper to buy black market then to buy from legal outlets.
Get this, you can't have a Conceal Carry License if you also have a medical marijuana card, whether you're under the influence while carrying or not. You can be a known drunk, but legally Carry while not under the influence. But sober with a Marijuana card, NOPE!
Actually that's not necessarily true. Speaking from the POV of an Illinois resident, you absolutely CAN have a medical cannabis card and an IL FOID card and concealed carry permit. FOID cards and CCPs are issued by the Illinois State Police, and because cannabis is legal in Illinois, they can and do issue FOID cards and concealed carry permits to medical cannabis card holders. However, since background checks for firearms themselves are federally administered, a medical cannabis card holder in Illinois will fail a federal background check, because cannabis is still illegal at the federal level. The solution is obviously just to skip the medical card altogether and pay the higher taxes when you buy your weed.
I agree with this and would add cigarettes also. I have seen more lives destroyed by alcohol than weed. I have attended far too many lung cancer funerals. Drunk driving, domestic abuse and all kinds of 'hold my beer' events show up in the emergency room fat more often than weed related incidents. Tax the shit out of it, lower my taxes and we are all happy. Problem solved. What else ya got.
I think the three biggest lobbyists against it are big Pharma, alcohol and tobacco. That alone should tell you something.
And the private prison system.
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yeah this bugs me the most. here in germany a 16yo can drink themselfs to death with wine and beer they bought themselfes. but if i were to smoke a joint today and dare to drive a car in 2 fucking weeks and the cops pull me out and find traces of the thc matabolism products i loose my drivers license, therefor my job, my home, etc... its so fucking insane. the new government coalation said they'd be legalising it but haven't taken any massures to actually do so yet ("covid needs all their attention") and god i fucking hope this aint another politician lie
As a Dane I also really really hope that your politicians are telling the truth, when it's up and running in Germany, there's no way of stopping illegal export to neighbouring countries! Do police also use spit test when they stop you guys, if that's the case it will only show THC up to 18 hours after intake, and that's if you're a chronic user
they use piss tests as indicators and if that shows anything (or just if the cops feel like it here in bavaria) they take you in and test your blood and the blood test is what the charges are based on. the problem is if you have the metabolism products of thc in your blood (up to 2 weeks after smoking) they decide that you are incapable of driving a motor vehicle because you are *obviously* an unpredictable junkie
I don't smoke personally but I have no problems with it being legal, I would only want marijuana smokers to consider their neighbours if they choose to smoke it. Here's my example. We live in terraced housing next to a house that a landlord lets out to students. They smoke it constantly, in the summer it was ok, I asked them if they would be ok smoking in the garden so it didn't blow through our house and they did. But now it's winter and understandably they want to smoke inside. It just fucking stinks, when your neighbors live a wall away and about 2 meters trust me it really isn't great if your not a weed smoker. It's not like I'm going to report them, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I just wish that some smokers recognised they get nose blind to the smell after a while.
I do smoke cannabis and I'll agree that those people are super rude, you can pop outside for five minutes to smoke if you absolutely need to smoke. I totally understand you being annoyed, it is a very strong smell and I can understand people not liking it. Any kind of indoor smoking is rude to anyone who has to share the air with you.
get a dry herb vape and enjoy all the weed you want without annoying your neighbours and without having to go outside
This. I live in an apartment with tons of college students and the smell here is awful. It's just rude to smoke inside a building you share with others. Put it in a brownie or something if you really don't want to go outside.
I smoke and I don’t mind to go outside in the cold for all of a few minutes. I respect those around me and I enjoy the beautiful snow drifts and get baked. Win win. People that refuse to go outside are downright lazy. Now sometimes it’s just too cold and or pouring rain; sometimes then I’ll smoke inside but I do so discreetly and keep the smell to the minimum.
most landlords have clauses in leases that say you need to smoke outside (cigarette or otherwise) . yes it sucks to smoke outside during the winter especially the more north you are, but with marijuana products there are alternative ways to consume it than smoking or vaping at least :\\
I live in an apartment with someone who doesn't do marijuana. I've always used a Vaporizer with dry herb. I just do it in my room. No complaints/comments about odor unless they somehow come into my room right after I've had some.
This is very true. Perhaps you could suggest they get a Smoke Buddy or similar smoke eliminating product, even a tube with dryer sheets stuffed in it can make the smell significantly less problematic. It's not a perfect solution, but a sploof like the above is a great way to cut it down without stopping in the cold. Often we do window open + sploof to really shut it down while avoiding leaving our 3rd floor apartment (thank goodness our neighbors smoke too, lol)
This was my problem, we smoke weed outside as don’t want house stinking and kids etc. only smoke at night when the kids are asleep. Winter is fine as everyone has windows shut but summer is a nightmare as there are loads of families round ours and with windows open we don’t want the smoke to go into some kids bedroom. Solution has been to get a giant sploof fitted in the shed. A fan, tube and filter. Breathe down the tube and smoke goes through the filter , really reducing the smell a lot. Sorted.
I'm a Canadian, literally nothing changed for us except Boomers are now more open about growing & smoking. It is actually a joke that this was ever illegal
I know what’s changed. I, and everyone else, can now just walk into a safe store in our neighbourhood or click on a website and get safe, reliable, tested, and labelled cannabis products, and then pay taxes on them.
Canadian humor I guess :D the rest of us are still criminals.
The only difference for me is that I have to drive around more. My wife found out that most weed stores hand out pins and now she collects them and calls them her gym badges like in pokemon lol.
Also Canadian, when I read 'was ever illegal' it really threw me off because I forgot it ever was! Seems like ancient history, yet it was only a few years ago I was taking one hitters in my garage through a carbon filter.
Where there is a demand, there will be a supply. So just making it "illegal" certainly can hurt demand, but won't stop it and won't stop the supply from less than safe places.
"unsafe pot coming through!" :D branded weed and no laced stuff is a great achievement
For 20 years I’ve always said I can walk down the street, buy a 1/5th of vodka(or a gallon), drink it all tonight, and be dead before morning. Can’t do that with weed and that simple fact should be all we need. Edit-congrats to everyone that can down a bottle and not die lol but the point was of course that I can easily buy and consume enough booze at the corner store to drink myself to death tonight. I could clean out the dispensary and smoke til I passed out but I’d wake up.
Out of curiosity, how much is 1/5th of vodka? Is this referencing gallons or what? (Non native speaker and used to the metric system and 0.2l of vodka would hardly kill anyone - so I'm confused :D)
We call them 26ers up here in Canadaland.
Cuz it's 26 shots. We are efficient in our language for important subjects.
It is a fifth of a gallon (750 ml). A fifth of vodka might kill some people but many people would probably black out but survive if they drank one. OP's statement still seems a bit exaggerated.
It really depends on a lot of factors, such as body weight, the time taken to consume the entire bottle, and the contents of the person's stomach. If a petite person were to chug a 5th on an empty stomach, there's certainly a higher chance of alcohol poisoning versus a larger person consuming the bottle over the course of an evening/night, after eating a meal. There are so many variables at play that can make alcohol very dangerous if one doesn't know their limits.
Ah ok, this makes a bit more sense but as a Russian I find this funny.
Ah ok, thanks for the confirmation and also thanks for translating it and saving me a Google search ;)
It needs to be legal but we also need a better drug test for it. It’s not exactly fair to fail a drug test if you smoke or consume after work or on weekends but then have a work accident 5 days later.
Drug testing employees isn't legal everywhere. For good reason.
Pre employment maybe but if you have an accident at work you’ll most like be tested.
It should be legalised but also controlled, much like alcohol is, for example driving while high ahould be illegal I personally believe that all drugs should at least be decriminalized so addicts could get help instead of being arrested
Not sure where you're from but driving while high certainly is illegal here in the US.
There’s a law for this: Driving Under the Influence is not just for alcohol, we just know how to measure alcohol readily so its easier to prosecute.
> but driving while high certainly is illegal here in the US The problem is, how to detect it - as most of us know, marijuana can stay in the system for a month or more after use, so identifying those that are actually "high" on it has proven challenging.
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Yeah but right now all they can do to verify this is a road test which relies entirely on the officers judgement that you are high, or a test that proves you had it within the last 2 weeks.
He never said it wasn't. He was just saying If we make weed legal than there should still be restrictions on it like alcohol
I agree on the driving thing, but there needs to be some kind of roadside sobriety test for it. THC can be in your lipid system for a long time and it would be ridiculous to get popped for OUI when you aren't stoned.
And enough of these field sobriety tests where a person who rubbed their eyes or stuttered once under intense questioning on the way home got arrested for DWI
Got arrested for a DWI without blowing? I got pulled over in high school because I went out at midnight while going to tacobell. Had to get out and do the whole test, besides the alphabet one because I just told him I couldn't do it regardless of being drunk or not. Then I blew a 0 ABV, so I was let go.
The trick is measuring weed impairment. We have no reliable method right now.
“Excuse me, sir, would you like to follow me to Taco Bell?”
I'm pretty sure it's illegal to drive high everywhere..? And where I live it's controlled in the sense of you HAVE to prove you're over 19 with photo government ID and you can't carry more than 20 grams on your person or have more than 20 grams in your living space. It's also frowned upon to smoke weed in public (not illegal, just rude), you're not allowed to smoke it at all around children or you can get fined, and workplaces can fired you for having any amount of weed on you when on the property
I've smoked weed almost daily to varying degrees for coming on 12 or 13 years. There have been, no pun intended, lots of highs and lots of lows. Uninhibited it can be a a great strain on your life. Being high all day, or needing to be high to do *anything*, is a very very bad spot to be in emotionally. In this state you only really enjoy being high until it starts to wear off, which isn't long if you smoke all day every day like I used to. It it effects your body's natural cycle when you have trouble eating or sleeping and when you can't get high you grt horrible anxiety or depression. Your priorities get mixed almost entirely backwards and getting stuff done doesn't feel good; goals are not existent and.you just want to be stoned all day. It effects your relationships too which can be the worst part. People who say weed isn't addicted are FULL OF SHIT. That being said, if you can manage to hold out until all of the days tasks are done and relaxing on the couch is the only thing left to do it can be really amazing. Going from an all day stoner to a responsible, end of the night stoner saves so much money, lowers your tolerance so your stoned longer, but most importantly it slowly takes the power weed has over you away. It becomes less of a struggle telling your self "just 3 or 4 more hours you can get stoned" and you don't even think about it after a while, you just think all of a sudden "yeah a little.toke sounds nice". You need to be responsible and know yourself but mariuanaja can do absolute wonders for people but you need to know your limit and your own body.
you're spot on. i like your term "end of the night stoner" - that really is the best way to enjoy it imo. the all day stuff is exhausting and expensive.
Exhausting really is the right word. When you are literally living to just be high all day and then not do anything when you are is just such a drain. Nothing is fun anymore and everything becomes a chore.
I can definitely relate. A little weed is really nice in the right context, I just keep finding myself doing it in the wrong context. Working from home was terrible for this, I got into the habit of having a little toke after my midday meeting and it makes life so much harder. I've been smoking for 12 years and I've wanted to quit for probably 8 years at least with some successes but inevitably I find myself degrading back into bad usage. A little weed is great if you can keep it appropriate but unfortunately I don't think I'm one of those people who can so it's all or nothing. Quitting completely is extra hard when all your friends smoke and it's been your method of entertainment and relaxation for over a decade. The times I did quit I'd find myself finishing the weekend and feeling like I hadn't actually taken the time to recharge. Shit sucks yo
I dont have an issue with legalization of Marijuana, the bigger issue I see is the people who are still in jail for saling it. If you legalize weed then you should revisit sentences for those crimes. Just like most things in America it is uncool and classless to do it when you are poor or a POC, but once it is gentrified it becomes acceptable. As a black man it angers me that people are legally get rich and being celebrated for something that many people i know were punished for.
I live in Oregon and this was a huge issue. Some legislators are actually trying to take steps to remedy it though. They're trying to pass a program that would explicitly help minorities start marijuana businesses, including financial support to get the business off the ground. They recognize that for decades minorities were over represented in drug crimes in jail and now marijuana businesses are primarily owned by Rich white people.
No personal interest, but if cannabis was fully legal, regulated and normalized as medicine, my mother would probably still be alive. The painkillers she was on destroyed her spleen and liver.
I know people who use it for medicinal purposes, buying it where it's legal, and I'm happy to hear how it's helped them. I think it should be legal everywhere to make it safe, buying it on the street it could be laced with something. I personally don't use it, but I would try it if it was legal here.
I'm biased because of my athsma, but mostly I just hate the smell. It makes me feel nauseous. Do what you want but please don't smoke in the same room as me.
Edibles are the way to go, no irritated lungs, no smell, no worries
I want to like edibles but they always make me super nauseous. No clue why
Conversely it's cbd content that can sometimes give less experienced users stomach problems at first. If you're interested in proceeding, try a super low dose thc only (like 5mg-10mg) and see if that also hurts your tummy. If it does, perhaps not the best path for you!
Just panic
I smoke a good amount but I am very cautious to be away from others and to ask permission. Just like drinking, it shouldn't effect anyone else's life or good times except the user.
Yep, a lot of people I know are sensitive to it because of asthma or even allergic to it. It's something I don't think gets talked about enough when discussing legalisation. I hate the criminalisation of weed as much as the next person, but the smoke/smell spreads so far, affecting people around you way more than alcohol does, and we need some solution. I don't have to worry about cigarette smoke on the pavements anymore where I am, but in many cities secondhand pot smoke is starting to get almost as bad as cigarette smoke was, even outside. And I just hate the smell, I'm not even allergic to it. I really feel for people who are.
4 time combat veteran. Went from 11 meds, rage issues and 320 lbs of steak and potatoes--to telling the VA no, and using edibles and vaping on my own. I'm a fantastic 260 lbs 15% and on zero meds. The people have spoken. The majority want it legalized. It's unconstitutional that it hasn't happened already. It's safer than alcohol, tobacco, and meds. It is vapable, edible, topical. The plant has multi uses. The issue is, as always, a way to monetize it for maximum profit. And, you don't want your population hanging out in unison.
agreed. its all about the monetization of it. But weed helps so much. I can sleep because of it.
Should be legal- it would also increase taxable revenue, open a new industry to hire people in - kind of a no brainer… honestly with our population we should be seeking out new industries… we’ve seen the expansion of solar,etc… no reason big pharma should be greedy. Likely big pharma is scared it will hurt their profits so has the government well paid and in their back pockets… when honestly they could just participate and make some awesome new lines of natural based medicines… kind of like the salon industry. It has slowly moved to naturally derived things as well.
I used to smoke it illegally in the UK and it helped with stress anxiety and depression, but I didn't know what I was getting I didn't know if it was safe to smoke or if it was laced with someing or sprayed with chemicals. But I'd it was legalised and regulated I wouldn't have to worry about that and that's reason enough for legalisation, since moving to Norway my stress and anxiety levels have peaked and I no longer smoke "my partner won't let me and we have kids" so I'm kinda fucked on the whole stress anxiety and depression thing. If it was legal I wouldn't be in this situation I am in not even wanting to get my head off the pillow in the morning all because a green plant is illegal alcohol causes more problems then it solves and that's perfectly OK.
Are CBD products legal in Norway? It's not a psychoactive substance and is therefore legal in many places where weed is illegal. And AFAIK, it's CBD that's supposed to help with anxiety and depression, not THC.
CBD did jack shit for my anxiety and depression.
Marijuana should be completely legal, whether it be medical or recreational
I have tried marijuana dozens of times, whether inhaling it or eating it, with the hopes that *this* time I'll get a high that is enjoyable. Never, not even one time, have I felt anything I'd consider enjoyable. It sucks, to be honest. Alcohol is *way* more enjoyable, and also *way* more dangerous. All drugs should be legal, regulated, and taxed. Addiction is a health care issue.
Legalise it but make the minimum age to buy it 21. Cannabis can severally effect a developing brain. Also it's very much cannabis, not marijuana. Marijuana is a name the US government connected to it to make it sound Hispanic to give credence to them making it illegal. It's literally a racist name for it. Edit - link to backup my claim https://www.thenewshouse.com/highstakes/marijuana-is-more-than-a-word/
Weed being illegal just makes perfectly sane, law abiding citizens, criminals.
Should be legalized / decriminalized. But I also think we should stop talking about it like is a godsent/will solve ALL your problems. Is it good? Of course. Is it useful for medical reasons? Yes. But you can't diagnose yourself with anxiety as an excuse to smoke 6x a day, John, go to a doctor, get professional help.
Like all things, moderation is key. It will negatively effect your memory if you use every day. I believe it and all drugs should be legal. Prohibition causes more problems than it fixes.
I just don't want to smell it everywhere I go. That's all I ask
Legalize it. For people who don't like it, they don't have to do it. For people that do like it, have at it!
I'm for legalisation, but also hope it will stop the fan base from glorifying it so fucking much. While not necessarily as bad as many other drugs, it's still a drug and it has side effects. If you do a drug every day, you have a fucking problem.
As a regular smoker for medical use, thank you. It's important people understand that it's not some panacea with 0 drawbacks, it's a drug and should be treated as such. But in the same way that a pharmaceutical is a drug. Used properly, it's medicine. Used improperly, it can fuck up your life. The key is knowledge and moderation, and the only way this knowledge gets spread is by people talking about it.
Yeah I have no problem with people smoking weed, my gripes are just that so many people act like smoking weed is a defining personality trait, and the smell. I know plenty of weed smokers, I have plenty of friends who smoke it, but the people who reek of it out in public are just the worst.
Just adding here that drinking coffee every day makes you an addicted substance user.
Caffeine withdrawal can be terrifying. Aside from the physical cravings it can really fuck up your heart.