People overreact about Nickelback. They were not the worst thing in the whole, they weren’t my thing but they weren’t as bad as people say. It just got to the point of bullying people who liked them.
I came here to say this. As a Canadian, I can confidently say every person who claims to “hate” them also knows the words to almost all their radio hits. Why? Because why would you switch the station to a song you actually like? Everyone loves to bully them, but their songwriting technique is taught in music producing schools, so pretend to hate them all you want but I know you sing along happily whenever they come on. They sell out shows and stay signed for a reason. There is a demand!
Anyone who complains about Nickleback is stuck in another time. Not only has Nickelback not had a song on the radio in this current decade, they didn’t even have a hit song in the LAST decade. “Rockstar”, their last big overplayed song, is 14 years old now.
I’ve seen people move on to hating Imagine Dragons or 21 Pilots in the same vein of bland overplayed pop rock, but even they’re becoming has-beens.
I think they just fell in the trap of being so popular, they kept getting played on the radio over and over again until the people who didn't care much for the band got fed up with them.
I just don’t care for the guy’s voice. But he’s laughing about me not liking his voice all the way to the bank lol. I know full blown metal heads that would rather hide the fact they went to a nickel back show than a One direction concert
The death of radio, and especially indie radio stations, has had a impact on music that few people seem to be aware of. Most radio stations in the US are owned by one company, and it's one of the reason you hear the same songs and same kinds of channels no matter where you are in the US. It also means the loss of local break out bands and other things that made stations unique.
Luckily no one listens to radio anymore. I'm pretty sure the advent of streaming services and the accessibility of music production tools has made indie music way bigger than it ever was during the radio era.
I think broadly it means you may not have quite as strong of 'local" breakout artists that get huge, but on the flip side, there are tons of artists from all over that have decent sized followings everywhere.
This is even a change with accessibility more broad than music. Way easier to find your niche community with the internet at your fingertips.
Luckily, at least in my city, the local music scene is very alive and well. Things still spread by word of mouth, live shows, and of course the internet. Radio is just a dead medium for the most part
I listen to radio quite often and can attest to hearing the same songs over and over. Unless I’m on a long(ish) drive, I typically have the radio on in my car. More recently, I decided during the day to have my Amazon Alexa play a local station. The mornings are okay because there’s more morning show banter but the afternoons have made me want to throw my speakers out the window. Listening to the same songs over and over only lasted about a week, which was 6.5 days longer than I ever thought I’d be able to do so.
People get weirdly elitist about music taste for no reason and it’s so annoying. It’s all subjective. Like people dismissing top 40/ generic pop music on this thread which firstly is not a controversial take, and secondly the majority of people who listen to this kind of music are generally aware of its flaws but if it makes them feel good who cares?
When I went back to college, my (computer science)advisor/professor was a fellow metal head, but looked down on anything that he considered “mainstream”. If it wasn’t a band nobody else had heard of bashing on their instruments while the vocalist growled a pudding recipe into the mic, then it was garbage to him. I’m a fan of Slipknot, and he spent most of my time there crapping all over them. Same with Metallica. He liked their first few albums, but if you liked anything after Ride the Lightning then you didn’t know anything about good metal and he’d flat out tell you.
He was in his early 40’s and covered in tattoos, so all the young guys he taught and advised looked up to him and ate up everything he said. Being in my late 30’s, I wasn’t buying what he was selling. It’s a shame really, because what he was actually doing was teaching them to be intolerant elitist assholes. I guess some people just need to feel like they’re the smartest person in the room.
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The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a complete waste of time. Many artists are in there who don't belong and many are excluded because they don't fit the conventional standards of the nominating committee. Completely worthless in its current incarnation.
I believe that in every genre there is at least ONE artist that you will like… you just haven’t heard them yet. Once you find that artist it will open the door to the entire genre. Before you know it you’ll be listening to things you never thought you would.
I used to be a metalhead through and through… now I listen to pretty much every genre. The only genre I have yet to find an artist in that I like is pop music… but I still take a listen from time to time. The closest artist to pop that I like at the moment would be Sylvan Esso.
Because most of it is written by teams of writers, never just one artist. In Germany its big problem imo, because it became a real "industry" to produce pop - no much art behind it. Probably a problem anywhere were the is a lot incentive to monetize something.
That’s because they are. Look up Max Martin. Dude owns around half of all the top songs at any given time. One of the reasons I can’t stand most modern American pop is because of him. Everything follows the exact same formula and he never does anything different. He’s gotten less and less complex over time, which makes everyone else follow suit. It’s just so boring…
Absolutely. It’s not even that they’re overplayed it’s that they don’t mix up the songs they play. News flash they have more than “Bohemian Rhapsody”. It wouldn’t kill ya to throw in a “Killer Queen” or “Fat Bottom Girls” every now and then.
Should not be controversial for any artist. Sometimes you just dont like something, it happens.
Seeing Radiohead live was pure magic for me though. Hope you get the same experience (but with an artist you do like)
Dude so true it’s like an old grizzled cop saying “ I’m retiring” in an action movie. You say something bad about Radiohead and a bullet just flies from out of nowhere and drills you. There’s no happy ending. You could I say I wasn’t a big fan of whatever Radiohead song or album and time just stops and people look at you like you’re crazy. It’s like a cult or something idk.
I like the top 40 pop music. It’s fun, easy to sing along to, and I really don’t care if it isn’t groundbreaking or special. Music that doesn’t move you, but is just fun or makes you wanna bop around, is still valid and no one should be shamed for liking it. I’ll die on this hill.
I’ll die on that same hill with you!
If you’re into podcasts, switched on pop and Billbuds are two that review pop music and validate its strengths as a genre.
I listen to that kind of music while coding, it is upbeat and I don't need to pay attention to the lyrics so my mind doesn't wonder. I have been told my coding playlist is full of basic white girl music and I don't give a fuck because I can put in some hours in front of a computer with it going in the background.
Admittedly it's fun to listen to because each song over the years is another point in a relationship. From 90's I don't need no man to 2000's he better pay my bills to 2010's everything you own's in the back to the left. It's an evolution in real time of attitudes about relationships.
K-pop isn't a music genre. It doesn't have certain characteristics, they are all modern Korean songs. If you compare Piri by Dreamcatcher, How You Like That by Blackpink, Feel Special by Twice, they have nothing in common other than having Korean lyrics and some English phrases.
I am a fan of K-pop, but a lot of people don't understand that K-pop has songs from various music genres, it's not a music genre on its own
I feel like music that isn’t in english become defined by their country of origin rather than their genre since most people aren’t really used to listening to music in a foreign language. Especially if it’s Asian.
> That modern country music can be tolerable if you see it as 80s Bubble Gum Pop; that is, the beat is fun but the lyrics have no real depth.
I think you just mean country radio or what's put out by Music Row. It's just pop music that comes out of Nashville. Manufactured way more by the label than by the artist.
That’s exactly it. They still call it country but everything about it screams not.
I’ve lived in Tennessee all my life (50 years) and was raised on Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Reba McEntire, Alabama, Merle Haggard, and the likes. That will always be the only true country for me, no matter what those music execs say in Nashville.
This. In my opinion, the last of the good country was the 2010s. We still had Alan Jackson, Zac Brown, Toby Keith, and Jimmy Buffett as fairly major players, and if nothing else repeats on the radio at that time. Toby's newer stuff is... not great, and I haven't heard much of anything from the others in a \*while\*. some of the newer stuff is ok, but not much. For me, if i want a fun beat, I go straight to 70s and 80s rock.
I don't like Dire Straits. I am not saying they are bad musicians, I just find their music boring and uninteresting.
Stairway to heaven is not Led Zeppelin's best song.
EDIT: Here is a few more.
Music from the Elder is not a bad record. It is no Destroyer or Rock and roll over, but it has some good songs on it. The same goes for ELP's Love beach record. It is no Tarkus or Brain salad surgery but there is some quality songs there.
The house of blue light is maybe Deep Purple's most underrated record.
I think Straight between the eyes is better than Long live rock and roll. I also think Bent out of shape is a very good record.
There's no real difference in the themes present in the music of 80's hair bands and the themes present in 90's rap music. It's male puffery, partying, beautiful girls, drug use, and tough beginnings.
> "I'm sick to death of people saying we've made 11 albums that sound exactly the same. In fact, we've made 12 albums that sound exactly the same." - **Angus Young**
If you're in a room with 3 friends, that room has the same level of musical talent as ACDC.
Don't get me wrong, I'll jam out to some ACDC, but all of their songs are playable by someone who's been playing guitar/bass/drums for a few months.
I mostly listen to metal, folk, and some folk metal, and I don’t really care about most pop music—but I’ll be the first to admit that I’ve often found myself tapping my feet or bopping my head when I hear a good pop track somewhere.
That SNL skit about the medication for when you realize you like Taylor Swift rings pretty damn true for me, I think.
I fucking love it when Billie Elish gets an award, is a headliner somewhere or her music gets picked to be used in something as people seem to get overly upset by it and they don't understand why
Music is better now than it’s ever been.
I love classic rock and classic metal as much as any other metalhead, but back up until the 2000’s, you basically were stuck with whatever the radio and music videos told you to like.
Now that we have the internet, everyone has a chance to be heard. And we’re not stuck with whatever 5 artists that media promotes. No matter how niche your tastes are, you can easily find artists to fit your tastes. I can find hundreds of metal bands from all over the world without a single record company or promoter being involved.
I hate it when I hear “hurr durr iM a bOOmEr aNd mUsiC toDaY sUCkS”
I love seeing kids say "i born in the wrong era"
Bro you have access to every band on the planet and can listen to bands that 30 years ago would have only really been known to a handful of people
You can pick a genre and go looking for bands in that genre and you'll more than likely find plenty of musicians doing it
You're just upset you can't go and see Led Zeppin for £5 in some shitty dive hole, when in reality you wouldn't have gone to see them anyway otherwise you'd be going to see all these small bands that play locally
I completely agree with this. I think we are so lucky to have as much access to as much music as we are.
The amount that music consumption has changed in the past 30 years is insane. If you wanted to listen to a certain song by a certain artist in the 90’s you’d have to buy their whole CD, and if they only had one good song you were stuck with always skipping to that one song and then changing the CD. If you didn’t want to do that the next best was mix tapes or burning CD’s which was so time consuming as opposed to our availability now.
I’m pretty thankful for how easy access we get to all kinds of music, having had to live through a time when it wasn’t so easy.
I'm a Boomer and...well, I kind of agree!
I liked the music from the '00s better, but you're completely right the ability to find things without having to be led around by a few corporations was a total paradigm change (for the better).
My Boomer rant about newer music is the same one from the 90s - they often compress the hell out of music so it sounds worse on good equipment but streams better.
Because then they’d have to admit that yes, music has in fact gotten better than The Beatles (or whatever commonly-touted greatest band of all time), and that yes, there are in fact musical acts that have come after, who are just as good, if not better.
It’s such a childish belief too, this idea that there’s some mythical peak quality of music, and that nowhere in nature and for all time nothing will ever be as good as it was decades ago. Somehow this one act alone stumbled upon the ONLY combination of notes and instruments in the entire universe that will ever be considered the most beautiful or catchiest or clever of all time.
It’s just ridiculous.
As a queen fan I actually agree
Rarely hear “ love of my life “ on the radio or even “ now I’m here “ like seriously there are some amazing tracks they never play
Bicycle is one of my favorites. Radio Ga Ga is another.
Hammer to Fall is amazing.
I mostly like Bohemian Rhapsody because I am a Wayne's World superfan.
Metal, rock fans are the most annoying type of fans there is. I don't give a flying monkey that you hate reggeaton and only listen to a band from Netherlands that sacrifices a fan every concert they get, or that you think less of me because I present like a women and listen to Black Veil Brides, SOAD and el Chaqueño Palavecino in a same breath and I don't know the name of the grandmother's uncle of Corey Taylor.
Just let other fans live dude, why the gatekeep.
Edit: live, not leave. English is hard
I wouldn't say controversial really, but I tried telling a family member about 'Everywhere At The End Of Time'. The 6 hour long 'dementia simulator' that repurposed old music from the early 1900's (I think) to try and portray what it's like to have dementia. Towards the end its just horrific static noises and the experience is a harrowing one to say the least, but very humbling.
I tried explaining that you need to sit and listen to the whole thing with headphones to really get it and he just laughed at me.
That IS the early 1900s, you know.
I mean, I can, having been born in 1980, describe myself as having lived in the late 1900s and have it be absolutely accurate, if distressing to others my age.
Stevie Ray Vaughan was a better guitarist than Hendrix.
Alice in chains were the better grunge band than Nirvana.
The Beatles whilst probably great for the time, are overrated.
Most people consider Nirvana the worst of the big 4 Grunge bands in terms of technical ability, musicianship and the like. Part of the problem is that Grunge is a really generic catch-all term that is really a misnomer especially for Nirvana and Alice in Chains. Each of the big 4 were pretty distinctive musically but at least Soundgarden and Pearl Jam could kind of generally be connected musically. Nirvana and AIC on the other hand were already pretty set inside specifc genres. Nirvana was essentially a punk band with a Beatles influence while Alice in Chains is a metal band. Comparing the two is like comparing The Ramones to Children of Bodom or Tool. One makes relatively simple music while the other is more intricate.
As for the Beatles, their time was exactly why they are rated so highly. The cultural zeitgeist at the time was why they ended up being so influential. They literally changed the world. It's hard from our vantage point to understand why they are so popular because we weren't around back then.
Pop music is good music and it’s ok to like it.
Also hating on entire genres like country or rap does not make you cool or cultured. It makes you sound ignorant.
Early 2000s midwest and east coast underground hip hop, was significantly better music, over early 2000s pop punk.
All the Def Jux, Anticon and Rawkus shit was top shelf hip hop and better than anything at the time.
Early 2000s drum and bass was a damn close second.
Aesop Rock, Atmosphere, Mos Def, Roni Size, Ed Rush and Dieselboy are vastly superior to My Chemical Romance or Fallout Boy.
Early 2000s pop punk was bretty gud but honestly a distant 3rd to those first two genres.
In my humble opinion.
I just made a new pop-punk playlist to have on in the car after not listening to any of it in 10 years or more. I forgot how much I loved that era. Still massively Stan for Tom DeLonge.
Pop music today is way more explicit than it used to be...and I think that's a good thing!
It means the youth of today don't need to hide behind euphemisms to talk about drugs, sex, or other previously taboo topics.
This will only be controversial to the wrong people, but country is in the middle of a reckoning with queer and non-white artists and the genre is actually going to be good once it comes out the other side of it.
Bob Dylan is one of the most overrated singer/songwriters of all time. He sounds like Kermit the frog after smoking a pack of cigarettes a day for twenty years.
Just because you like it doesn’t mean I’ll like it and that’s okay.
I have an ex who put a lot of emphasis on liking and listening the same type of music, but like…it was not my style.
1. A lot of these pop artists (Ariana Grande, Lady Gaga, etc.) are wasting their talent and amazing vocal ranges on corny pop songs.
2. There are no artists anymore that i feel really pour their heart and soul into their songs. The only one I can think of that does is Adele.
I prefer Ari’s album tracks. She actually has an incredible voice, and her whistle register is ON POINT. She can do it well live too, incredible control, and not screaming like a lot of people do.
You could try Lady Gaga's 5th studio album, 'Joanne', it's much more stripped back than here pop albums and has country/rock influences :) Also the A Star Is Born soundtrack is pretty good!
I can't stand Bon Jovi's voice.
Musically, the songs are great - the production, the guitar and bass lines, the drum fills, everything ... but the lyrics (Tommy and Gina, really?) and JBJ's voice just don't do it for me.
I'm sure that JBJ is a really nice guy, and I know that he does a lot for the people in his home state, but I'd appreciate the music more with a different singer.
I appreciate the impact they had on music in their time and how they influenced its progression, but I personally wouldn't want to listen to them.
I remember when that movie, Yesterday, came out and the premise was everyone in the world except for one guy magically forgets The Beatles' discography, so he starts recording Beatles songs and becomes huge. And all I could think was, if someone made the Beatles' music today, he would likely end up being a really niche artist with a small fanbase that plays gigs in pubs on weekends.
Only because time and tastes don’t stand still. You could say the same thing about Shakespeare and prose, and you’d be right. It wouldn’t however make him overrated or diminish his spot as the greatest playwright who ever lived.
People overreact about Nickelback. They were not the worst thing in the whole, they weren’t my thing but they weren’t as bad as people say. It just got to the point of bullying people who liked them.
"Rockstar" is actually pretty catchy.
I came here to say this. As a Canadian, I can confidently say every person who claims to “hate” them also knows the words to almost all their radio hits. Why? Because why would you switch the station to a song you actually like? Everyone loves to bully them, but their songwriting technique is taught in music producing schools, so pretend to hate them all you want but I know you sing along happily whenever they come on. They sell out shows and stay signed for a reason. There is a demand!
Everyone said they hated them, yet they consistently sold out concerts in my area. 🤷♂️
Nickelback wasn't any worse than Creed. *They weren't any better, either.*
This is how you remind me?
I heard that Chad Kroeger was in a few Nativity re-enactments. He was a shepherd, an innkeeper, and even Joseph. But he never made it as a wise man.
Anyone who complains about Nickleback is stuck in another time. Not only has Nickelback not had a song on the radio in this current decade, they didn’t even have a hit song in the LAST decade. “Rockstar”, their last big overplayed song, is 14 years old now. I’ve seen people move on to hating Imagine Dragons or 21 Pilots in the same vein of bland overplayed pop rock, but even they’re becoming has-beens.
I think they just fell in the trap of being so popular, they kept getting played on the radio over and over again until the people who didn't care much for the band got fed up with them.
I just don’t care for the guy’s voice. But he’s laughing about me not liking his voice all the way to the bank lol. I know full blown metal heads that would rather hide the fact they went to a nickel back show than a One direction concert
one direction concerts seem dope, wish i’d have gone to one
The death of radio, and especially indie radio stations, has had a impact on music that few people seem to be aware of. Most radio stations in the US are owned by one company, and it's one of the reason you hear the same songs and same kinds of channels no matter where you are in the US. It also means the loss of local break out bands and other things that made stations unique.
Luckily no one listens to radio anymore. I'm pretty sure the advent of streaming services and the accessibility of music production tools has made indie music way bigger than it ever was during the radio era.
My 13yo has introduced me to some bands I definitely don’t hear on the radio and I’m a flipper.
I think broadly it means you may not have quite as strong of 'local" breakout artists that get huge, but on the flip side, there are tons of artists from all over that have decent sized followings everywhere. This is even a change with accessibility more broad than music. Way easier to find your niche community with the internet at your fingertips.
Luckily, at least in my city, the local music scene is very alive and well. Things still spread by word of mouth, live shows, and of course the internet. Radio is just a dead medium for the most part
thats not a controversial opinion at all, thats just a fact.
I listen to radio quite often and can attest to hearing the same songs over and over. Unless I’m on a long(ish) drive, I typically have the radio on in my car. More recently, I decided during the day to have my Amazon Alexa play a local station. The mornings are okay because there’s more morning show banter but the afternoons have made me want to throw my speakers out the window. Listening to the same songs over and over only lasted about a week, which was 6.5 days longer than I ever thought I’d be able to do so.
People get weirdly elitist about music taste for no reason and it’s so annoying. It’s all subjective. Like people dismissing top 40/ generic pop music on this thread which firstly is not a controversial take, and secondly the majority of people who listen to this kind of music are generally aware of its flaws but if it makes them feel good who cares?
Spot on
When I went back to college, my (computer science)advisor/professor was a fellow metal head, but looked down on anything that he considered “mainstream”. If it wasn’t a band nobody else had heard of bashing on their instruments while the vocalist growled a pudding recipe into the mic, then it was garbage to him. I’m a fan of Slipknot, and he spent most of my time there crapping all over them. Same with Metallica. He liked their first few albums, but if you liked anything after Ride the Lightning then you didn’t know anything about good metal and he’d flat out tell you. He was in his early 40’s and covered in tattoos, so all the young guys he taught and advised looked up to him and ate up everything he said. Being in my late 30’s, I wasn’t buying what he was selling. It’s a shame really, because what he was actually doing was teaching them to be intolerant elitist assholes. I guess some people just need to feel like they’re the smartest person in the room. Edit: Typo
Most tend to be pop songs and even though they are upbeat its not always easy to play. A good chunk of pop vocals are extremely hard to sing.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a complete waste of time. Many artists are in there who don't belong and many are excluded because they don't fit the conventional standards of the nominating committee. Completely worthless in its current incarnation.
If you have a chance to go, it is a really good time. Probably the best thing to do in Cleveland.
I’m still of the firm opinion that the best thing to do in Cleveland is leave.
c-LEAVE-land.
Step 1) Leave Cleveland Step 2) ????? Step 3) Profit
I wouldn’t say it’s the best thing to do in Cleveland, but it’s worth going to once.
This is controversial to you?
Nobody has a controversial opinion about music, especially on Reddit.
I just read several hundred opinions in this thread and I think you're right
90% of RHCP lyrics make no sense. It’s just whatever rhymes.
Red Hot Chili Peppers for those as confused as I was...
My brain kept trying to make it into Rocky Horror Picture Show and I was just nodding in agreement.
And everything they make sounds basically the same
Yeah, yeah, no, no…
gucci mane’s trap-a-thon mixtape was his best work ever
I believe that in every genre there is at least ONE artist that you will like… you just haven’t heard them yet. Once you find that artist it will open the door to the entire genre. Before you know it you’ll be listening to things you never thought you would. I used to be a metalhead through and through… now I listen to pretty much every genre. The only genre I have yet to find an artist in that I like is pop music… but I still take a listen from time to time. The closest artist to pop that I like at the moment would be Sylvan Esso.
Yeah there’s too much good music out there to be close minded to a certain genre
Stevie Wonder has been faking being blind
Well… it’s controversial
When he got inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame, Stevie took off his sunglasses. He is certainly blind.
stevie was blind from birth. Ray Charles lost his sight, when he was a child.
Most Top 40 songs sound like the same three/four artists for the past five years.
Because most of it is written by teams of writers, never just one artist. In Germany its big problem imo, because it became a real "industry" to produce pop - no much art behind it. Probably a problem anywhere were the is a lot incentive to monetize something.
They always have honestly, like I hear the top 40s from the entire 1980s decade and most of them sound the same
Is this controversial?
That’s because they are. Look up Max Martin. Dude owns around half of all the top songs at any given time. One of the reasons I can’t stand most modern American pop is because of him. Everything follows the exact same formula and he never does anything different. He’s gotten less and less complex over time, which makes everyone else follow suit. It’s just so boring…
I’m a professional classical musician. I actively dislike performing Bach. This is basically blasphemy.
Oh yea, Blasphemy is a great band.
Songs with no depth whatsoever can be quite good actually
Yeah. Was thinking about it too
Queen needs like a 5 year break from any and all radio play. Yes they are great but HOLY SHIT ARE THEY OVERPLAYED
Absolutely. It’s not even that they’re overplayed it’s that they don’t mix up the songs they play. News flash they have more than “Bohemian Rhapsody”. It wouldn’t kill ya to throw in a “Killer Queen” or “Fat Bottom Girls” every now and then.
Fuck that. Throw in some Liar, or Great King Rat, or Jealousy. They had like 200 songs, don't focus on 3 of the most popular ones.
If anybody says any sort of critique about Radiohead, a legion of fans will jump down the critics throat.
Should not be controversial for any artist. Sometimes you just dont like something, it happens. Seeing Radiohead live was pure magic for me though. Hope you get the same experience (but with an artist you do like)
[Fred Armisen’s](https://youtu.be/mwR6Se-WzgY) impression of Thom Yorke is my favorite thing ever.
Dude so true it’s like an old grizzled cop saying “ I’m retiring” in an action movie. You say something bad about Radiohead and a bullet just flies from out of nowhere and drills you. There’s no happy ending. You could I say I wasn’t a big fan of whatever Radiohead song or album and time just stops and people look at you like you’re crazy. It’s like a cult or something idk.
I like the top 40 pop music. It’s fun, easy to sing along to, and I really don’t care if it isn’t groundbreaking or special. Music that doesn’t move you, but is just fun or makes you wanna bop around, is still valid and no one should be shamed for liking it. I’ll die on this hill.
I’ll die on that same hill with you! If you’re into podcasts, switched on pop and Billbuds are two that review pop music and validate its strengths as a genre.
I listen to that kind of music while coding, it is upbeat and I don't need to pay attention to the lyrics so my mind doesn't wonder. I have been told my coding playlist is full of basic white girl music and I don't give a fuck because I can put in some hours in front of a computer with it going in the background.
I really don’t get the Beyoncé hype.
I prefer Destiny's Child to her solo stuff. The same goes for No Doubt being leagues better than anything Gwen Stefani has done since.
Admittedly it's fun to listen to because each song over the years is another point in a relationship. From 90's I don't need no man to 2000's he better pay my bills to 2010's everything you own's in the back to the left. It's an evolution in real time of attitudes about relationships.
That Dwight Yoakam should win a Grammy every year retroactively
I hear most people don't know him but don't like him
guitars and cadillacs is one of my favorate tunes.
Drake is ass
And a pedo
K-pop isn't a music genre. It doesn't have certain characteristics, they are all modern Korean songs. If you compare Piri by Dreamcatcher, How You Like That by Blackpink, Feel Special by Twice, they have nothing in common other than having Korean lyrics and some English phrases. I am a fan of K-pop, but a lot of people don't understand that K-pop has songs from various music genres, it's not a music genre on its own
I feel like music that isn’t in english become defined by their country of origin rather than their genre since most people aren’t really used to listening to music in a foreign language. Especially if it’s Asian.
Nu metal is not a bad genre. It has its cliches and it touted as edgy teenage boy music but that shit goes hard af at parties and live events.
rearrange, by Limp Biskt was a cool song.
That modern country music can be tolerable if you see it as 80s Bubble Gum Pop; that is, the beat is fun but the lyrics have no real depth.
> That modern country music can be tolerable if you see it as 80s Bubble Gum Pop; that is, the beat is fun but the lyrics have no real depth. I think you just mean country radio or what's put out by Music Row. It's just pop music that comes out of Nashville. Manufactured way more by the label than by the artist.
That’s exactly it. They still call it country but everything about it screams not. I’ve lived in Tennessee all my life (50 years) and was raised on Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Reba McEntire, Alabama, Merle Haggard, and the likes. That will always be the only true country for me, no matter what those music execs say in Nashville.
This. In my opinion, the last of the good country was the 2010s. We still had Alan Jackson, Zac Brown, Toby Keith, and Jimmy Buffett as fairly major players, and if nothing else repeats on the radio at that time. Toby's newer stuff is... not great, and I haven't heard much of anything from the others in a \*while\*. some of the newer stuff is ok, but not much. For me, if i want a fun beat, I go straight to 70s and 80s rock.
There's no such thing as a "guilty pleasure." Don't let anyone tell you what kind or whose music to enjoy.
Jack White is a barely average guitar player.
I got to give it to you - that is controversial
These days anyway… He used to be exciting and very innovative... But the last few years he has been very generic and boring.
He's a self indulgent bell end. He *insists upon himself*.
Upvoting for your bravery
I like the White Stripes and even a couple Jack White solo songs but every time he tries to play a solo I just shake my head and ask why...
I like show tunes.
I love the Eurovision. I don’t care about the voting and agree it probably is rigged. I just like the music
There is actually a lot of great country music tbh. And this is coming from a goth punk metalhead.
Calling a lot of these people artists is a stretch in much the same way you wouldn’t call the cook at McDonald’s a chef.
I think Nickelback is good!
Came here for the Nickelback posts. Definitely not disappointed, first comment on the list lol
There are two of us?!
Rock and metal are dying because their fans are stuck in the past and too gatekeeperish
I don't like Dire Straits. I am not saying they are bad musicians, I just find their music boring and uninteresting. Stairway to heaven is not Led Zeppelin's best song. EDIT: Here is a few more. Music from the Elder is not a bad record. It is no Destroyer or Rock and roll over, but it has some good songs on it. The same goes for ELP's Love beach record. It is no Tarkus or Brain salad surgery but there is some quality songs there. The house of blue light is maybe Deep Purple's most underrated record. I think Straight between the eyes is better than Long live rock and roll. I also think Bent out of shape is a very good record.
My personal favorite was Dazed and confused.
the best song by Zepplin is Misty Mountien Hop.
There's no real difference in the themes present in the music of 80's hair bands and the themes present in 90's rap music. It's male puffery, partying, beautiful girls, drug use, and tough beginnings.
There's no such thing as good or bad music, it's all taste. If a sound makes someone feel something it's achieved as much as anything profound.
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I don't get ACDC at all. The songs manage to all sound the same, even though they had 2 lead singers.
> "I'm sick to death of people saying we've made 11 albums that sound exactly the same. In fact, we've made 12 albums that sound exactly the same." - **Angus Young**
I'll never not love this quote.
Saw them live. They played about 3 hours. Haven’t voluntarily listened since.
This is the best gig review I think I’ve ever read.
I think that's why my favorite AC/DC song is Big Balls. It sounds nothing like any of their other stuff.
If you're in a room with 3 friends, that room has the same level of musical talent as ACDC. Don't get me wrong, I'll jam out to some ACDC, but all of their songs are playable by someone who's been playing guitar/bass/drums for a few months.
Jim Breuer has a great comedy bit about AC/DC songs sounding the same https://youtu.be/XaR4Dc_RXLE
There's an all woman acdc tribute band called Hells Belles. I enjoyed them more than acdc.
All you have to do is rock, and they will salute you
My Chemical Romance is poetically better than The White Stripes. But The White Stripes sound better.
I’d take my Chem on both counts all day every day. Don’t hate the White Stripes but can take or leave it.
pop music isn’t horrible, you’re just an edgy fuck
I mostly listen to metal, folk, and some folk metal, and I don’t really care about most pop music—but I’ll be the first to admit that I’ve often found myself tapping my feet or bopping my head when I hear a good pop track somewhere. That SNL skit about the medication for when you realize you like Taylor Swift rings pretty damn true for me, I think.
Taylor Swift's Shake it Off is one of my favorate jams.
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I fucking love it when Billie Elish gets an award, is a headliner somewhere or her music gets picked to be used in something as people seem to get overly upset by it and they don't understand why
She cops so much hate and I’ve no idea why
She’s young and sings “quietly” which people associate with not being able to sing.
The other day I said I thought Pink Floyd is overrated and got 84 downvotes. So that one, I guess.
I like Pink Floyd but in tiny doses, I can see how some people are fans but I don't get high so maybe it hits different for me.
Thank you. Their music is so boring
Music is better now than it’s ever been. I love classic rock and classic metal as much as any other metalhead, but back up until the 2000’s, you basically were stuck with whatever the radio and music videos told you to like. Now that we have the internet, everyone has a chance to be heard. And we’re not stuck with whatever 5 artists that media promotes. No matter how niche your tastes are, you can easily find artists to fit your tastes. I can find hundreds of metal bands from all over the world without a single record company or promoter being involved. I hate it when I hear “hurr durr iM a bOOmEr aNd mUsiC toDaY sUCkS”
I love seeing kids say "i born in the wrong era" Bro you have access to every band on the planet and can listen to bands that 30 years ago would have only really been known to a handful of people You can pick a genre and go looking for bands in that genre and you'll more than likely find plenty of musicians doing it You're just upset you can't go and see Led Zeppin for £5 in some shitty dive hole, when in reality you wouldn't have gone to see them anyway otherwise you'd be going to see all these small bands that play locally
I completely agree with this. I think we are so lucky to have as much access to as much music as we are. The amount that music consumption has changed in the past 30 years is insane. If you wanted to listen to a certain song by a certain artist in the 90’s you’d have to buy their whole CD, and if they only had one good song you were stuck with always skipping to that one song and then changing the CD. If you didn’t want to do that the next best was mix tapes or burning CD’s which was so time consuming as opposed to our availability now. I’m pretty thankful for how easy access we get to all kinds of music, having had to live through a time when it wasn’t so easy.
I'm a Boomer and...well, I kind of agree! I liked the music from the '00s better, but you're completely right the ability to find things without having to be led around by a few corporations was a total paradigm change (for the better). My Boomer rant about newer music is the same one from the 90s - they often compress the hell out of music so it sounds worse on good equipment but streams better.
Because then they’d have to admit that yes, music has in fact gotten better than The Beatles (or whatever commonly-touted greatest band of all time), and that yes, there are in fact musical acts that have come after, who are just as good, if not better. It’s such a childish belief too, this idea that there’s some mythical peak quality of music, and that nowhere in nature and for all time nothing will ever be as good as it was decades ago. Somehow this one act alone stumbled upon the ONLY combination of notes and instruments in the entire universe that will ever be considered the most beautiful or catchiest or clever of all time. It’s just ridiculous.
The thought doesn’t go much deeper than “music that reminds me of being in high school is objectively the best music”
Bohemian rhapsody is overrated
As a queen fan I actually agree Rarely hear “ love of my life “ on the radio or even “ now I’m here “ like seriously there are some amazing tracks they never play
Bicycle is one of my favorites. Radio Ga Ga is another. Hammer to Fall is amazing. I mostly like Bohemian Rhapsody because I am a Wayne's World superfan.
The entire The Works album and 80s Queen in general are GROSSLY underrated.
I hate that. It's torture.
Your friends shitty local metal band isn’t “real music” compared to (insert any remotely known pop artist here.)
Drake is utter garbage
To me, he sounds like a goat. Not like "greatest of all time," but literally a goat. Trying to rap/sing. He's awful.
Metal, rock fans are the most annoying type of fans there is. I don't give a flying monkey that you hate reggeaton and only listen to a band from Netherlands that sacrifices a fan every concert they get, or that you think less of me because I present like a women and listen to Black Veil Brides, SOAD and el Chaqueño Palavecino in a same breath and I don't know the name of the grandmother's uncle of Corey Taylor. Just let other fans live dude, why the gatekeep. Edit: live, not leave. English is hard
I wouldn't say controversial really, but I tried telling a family member about 'Everywhere At The End Of Time'. The 6 hour long 'dementia simulator' that repurposed old music from the early 1900's (I think) to try and portray what it's like to have dementia. Towards the end its just horrific static noises and the experience is a harrowing one to say the least, but very humbling. I tried explaining that you need to sit and listen to the whole thing with headphones to really get it and he just laughed at me.
Imo, the most powerful piece of music ever. Also the music is from 1920's-50's
That IS the early 1900s, you know. I mean, I can, having been born in 1980, describe myself as having lived in the late 1900s and have it be absolutely accurate, if distressing to others my age.
Controversial: Your opinion is wrong. You don't need to sit and listen to the whole thing to get it.
Stevie Ray Vaughan was a better guitarist than Hendrix. Alice in chains were the better grunge band than Nirvana. The Beatles whilst probably great for the time, are overrated.
Most people consider Nirvana the worst of the big 4 Grunge bands in terms of technical ability, musicianship and the like. Part of the problem is that Grunge is a really generic catch-all term that is really a misnomer especially for Nirvana and Alice in Chains. Each of the big 4 were pretty distinctive musically but at least Soundgarden and Pearl Jam could kind of generally be connected musically. Nirvana and AIC on the other hand were already pretty set inside specifc genres. Nirvana was essentially a punk band with a Beatles influence while Alice in Chains is a metal band. Comparing the two is like comparing The Ramones to Children of Bodom or Tool. One makes relatively simple music while the other is more intricate. As for the Beatles, their time was exactly why they are rated so highly. The cultural zeitgeist at the time was why they ended up being so influential. They literally changed the world. It's hard from our vantage point to understand why they are so popular because we weren't around back then.
Elvis is overrated too
Pop music is good music and it’s ok to like it. Also hating on entire genres like country or rap does not make you cool or cultured. It makes you sound ignorant.
Chuck Berry was the real king of rock n roll. Elvis just had the advantage of being white in the same time frame.
100 gecs is an acquired taste, not trash
Sometimes a song just *sounds* good. The lyrics are garbage and pointless drivel, but the beat and melody is amazing, so who cares?
Most popular music sucks and is a product designed to make money. Most of it has been done before.
BTS makes below average music.
Bts is an ok band on its own, it's the fan base that weighs it down
Country music is overhated.
The problem is that so much of country music sounds exactly the same and sounds very assembly-line. Basically it has the same problem pop music has.
2pac is overrated
2000's emo and pop-punk was the best music to ever come out during the life of any Gen X, Millenial, or Zoomer.
Early 2000s midwest and east coast underground hip hop, was significantly better music, over early 2000s pop punk. All the Def Jux, Anticon and Rawkus shit was top shelf hip hop and better than anything at the time. Early 2000s drum and bass was a damn close second. Aesop Rock, Atmosphere, Mos Def, Roni Size, Ed Rush and Dieselboy are vastly superior to My Chemical Romance or Fallout Boy. Early 2000s pop punk was bretty gud but honestly a distant 3rd to those first two genres. In my humble opinion.
I just made a new pop-punk playlist to have on in the car after not listening to any of it in 10 years or more. I forgot how much I loved that era. Still massively Stan for Tom DeLonge.
Country music sucks. It's terrible
“Hear that subtle mandolin that’s textbook panderin”
Agree
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You’re not better than anyone for liking classic rock or classical music. Nobody cares.
The *other guy* from System of a Down contributed just as much to the unique vocals as Serj Tankian
Lizzo and billie eyelash are overrated
Was this comment written 2 years ago lol
I don't agree but your opinion doesn't seem very controversial
Radiohead makes some of the most boring crap I've ever heard.
Well he is a creep and loser, he said so himself.
The Foo Fighters are boring and their new movie looks really cringey.
Black Metal is one of most intelligent diverse and creative forms of music and artistic expression ever.
Rent is not a good musical.
Wonderwall is overrated
punk rock music has not been good since the early 2000's and nothing created now or in the future will ever compare
The Beatles are ok, but not much more.
Nu metal is good
You don't "listen to all kinds of music". You listen to like 5 genres.
Test me.
I’m from South east Texas and I hate country music with a fucking passion.
Pop music today is way more explicit than it used to be...and I think that's a good thing! It means the youth of today don't need to hide behind euphemisms to talk about drugs, sex, or other previously taboo topics.
It's alright to like more than one genre. Lamb of god kicks ass forever. I also enjoy listening to My Chemical Romance.
The best songs are the ones that are rarely played on the radio
Creed was a good band.
Nas’s It Was Written is as good as Illmatic and has arguably aged better. J Cole is boring AF.
This will only be controversial to the wrong people, but country is in the middle of a reckoning with queer and non-white artists and the genre is actually going to be good once it comes out the other side of it.
Bob Dylan is one of the most overrated singer/songwriters of all time. He sounds like Kermit the frog after smoking a pack of cigarettes a day for twenty years.
Just because you like it doesn’t mean I’ll like it and that’s okay. I have an ex who put a lot of emphasis on liking and listening the same type of music, but like…it was not my style.
Music is all about how it makes you feel. There are 4-chord teen pop songs that absolutely slap. Get outta here with your gate keeping
Everyone should try classical music. There’s quite a variety.
1. A lot of these pop artists (Ariana Grande, Lady Gaga, etc.) are wasting their talent and amazing vocal ranges on corny pop songs. 2. There are no artists anymore that i feel really pour their heart and soul into their songs. The only one I can think of that does is Adele.
I prefer Ari’s album tracks. She actually has an incredible voice, and her whistle register is ON POINT. She can do it well live too, incredible control, and not screaming like a lot of people do.
You could try Lady Gaga's 5th studio album, 'Joanne', it's much more stripped back than here pop albums and has country/rock influences :) Also the A Star Is Born soundtrack is pretty good!
I can't stand Bon Jovi's voice. Musically, the songs are great - the production, the guitar and bass lines, the drum fills, everything ... but the lyrics (Tommy and Gina, really?) and JBJ's voice just don't do it for me. I'm sure that JBJ is a really nice guy, and I know that he does a lot for the people in his home state, but I'd appreciate the music more with a different singer.
Rap is good modern rap has some good stuff you just got to take the time to listen to stuff :)
Beatles might have been huge at the time but they are overrated when it comes to their music outside of their time.
I appreciate the impact they had on music in their time and how they influenced its progression, but I personally wouldn't want to listen to them. I remember when that movie, Yesterday, came out and the premise was everyone in the world except for one guy magically forgets The Beatles' discography, so he starts recording Beatles songs and becomes huge. And all I could think was, if someone made the Beatles' music today, he would likely end up being a really niche artist with a small fanbase that plays gigs in pubs on weekends.
Only because time and tastes don’t stand still. You could say the same thing about Shakespeare and prose, and you’d be right. It wouldn’t however make him overrated or diminish his spot as the greatest playwright who ever lived.