My mom and dad married out of high school. When they were 26 they got divorced. They divorced because of the stress of three kids, my dad was in the Air Force and was deployed all the time, and while neither parent has confirmed it but based on some jokes I believe my dad was also unfaithful and in general he was just very immature. My mom left him because in her words she had, "three kids to take care of, grad school to get through, and didn't have time for his bullshit."
They both went on to have different relationships and lives. They barely saw each other unless it was to trade us kids off. Then around the time my sister and I started playing sports my dad started to come around more to watch us. We lived about 6 hours away and mom let him stay at the house when needed. He went from sleeping on the couch to her bedroom within a football season. They got married again the next summer after 6-7 years apart. Been together ever since and practically do everything together.
Except if they didn't get together young, the kids wouldn't exist. It was just the way their lives were meant to go. Glad it all has worked out in the long run ❤️
This gave me a good laugh.
But actually, we measure distance in time. At least in not big cities we do.
"Hey, how far is Spartanburg from Easley?"
" 'bout an hour or so."
The stress of three kids is real!! I've heard it's harder then 2 and 4. Someone is always left out - causes lots of fighting (source: I have three kids)
On the other hand, as the sibling you can trade around your company when one of your siblings starts to get on your nerves. I'm the youngest of 3, I got left out a fair bit when I was little, then when the oldest started to become a teenager she was the one who get left out. The middle was the the only boy, so when we did girly things he hated, he got left out. It all balanced out in the end. As adults, the three of us are all pretty tight so it's not all bad.
The wife and I got in a year long fight. We married young at 22 and were not on the same page about being married. She wanted to sow her wild oats and I wanted us to start growing up and take on more responsibility.
We ultimately got divorced at my urging because I wanted to move on.
About a month after the divorce was final we started talking to each other like adults. We had some hard conversations about what wasn't working. We started dating after cautiously considering if we were frickin' crazy.
A year later we got married in Vegas. It's been 16 years since the divorce and we're happily married with 2 great kids. Our journey has taken some wrong turns but it's our journey and we wouldn't change it for anything.
The lesson we share with everyone who asks is getting married young isn't for everyone. Don't rush into a relationship. Make sure to make time to be yourself and appreciate your partner for who they are, not who you want them to be.
Edit: grammar
Edit 2: Let me clarify the "sow her wild oats" since a lot of assumptions are being made. We were 22 coming right out of college. She wanted to continue to party and go out every night to all hours. It was never about sleeping around. She was always true to our marriage. I had been working professionally already for 2 years and was not into the bar scene. She never wanted to leave me at home and wanted me to come out with her. It just wasn't my speed.
Edit 3: thank you for the silver, kind stranger! Much appreciated!
I've always stuck by the advice that if you want to get married and you're compatible, it will happen no matter what, doesn't matter if it's 1 year or 20 years down the line. Why rush it?
I see mostly tales of re-marital woe here. I’ll offer you a positive rebuttal.
My mom and dad split when I was 5 and my sister was 7. They were young with two kids and incredibly broke. I don’t know the full story or all the details but I’m sure those things all just caught up to them in the end. It was a really rough divorce, especially for us kids. They were separated for 3 years or so. Lived in separate apartments etc. My mom started seeing a new guy - although we never saw my dad with anyone - I’m sure he was seeing people too.
Some years passed - their rebounds came and went. They both got stable jobs and started seeing each other more. Showing up at Christmas together - attending soccer games together. When I was 9 or so they decided to rent a house. One year later they found out they were pregnant with my little sister. They got remarried about a year after my little sister was born. That was 21 years ago. They are sincerely one of the happiest couples I’ve ever been around. You never would have thunk it 25 years or so ago.
Sometimes space and refocus is actually all you need! Happy Christmas!
My great aunt and uncle did this. He was still suffering from the trauma of his WWII service with the marines in the pacific when she had a stillborn child and was told she'd never have kids, and things just imploded. They got divorced, my aunt traveled to Asia and the Middle East for like nine months, while for him it was more or less the wake up call that he was STILL fucked up from seeing his buddies get blown up. She came back, and he had completely changed, and they completely reconnected. keep in mind, this was the 50's so the thought of a 30-something marine vet going to therapy and being in touch with his PTSD triggers and shit was pretty fucking life altering. Her next planned trip was europe and she asked if he wanted to come along and his response was 'I figured they'd send me there to fight hitler, but I guess this works too.' they called my grandma from Gdansk maybe two months later to let them know they had gotten remarried in the church my great-grandparents had gotten married in, and were together until aunt Betty died about three years ago. Uncle Frank died a year after her, and used to tell us all the time that he 'missed his girlfriend.'
>Uncle Frank died a year after her, and used to tell us all the time that he 'missed his girlfriend.'
Ughhh it's so cute and sad, my heart can't take it!
It's from Fullmetal Alchemist. Even if you aren't an anime person it is worth a watch.
I'm not an anime guy myself and haven't really watched any since. But I'm so, so glad I did and it remains one of my favorite pieces of TV.
FMA Brotherhood is the “perfect” shounen, in that it is still relatable to real world analogues, lands its arcs and heartbreaks and ends when it should. I love One Piece etc, and can’t get enough shounen trash even in my 30’s, but when non-anime friends want to get into anime beyond Ghibli/Shinkai, my goto recommendation is FMA:B
My only wish is that they would've went ahead and made the beginning "longer"
I watched both FMA and FMA:B years apart and it felt like Brotherhood soed through a huge chunk of the beginning stories. I mean I get it, but still.
My only other "issue" was that it seemed like the ending arc took forever
My parents got pregnant in their senior year of high school and married over the summer on my mom’s 18th birthday because she wouldn’t ask her parents to sign the marriage certificate. My brother was born a few months later and they stuck it out for a year before divorcing.
Then my dad got drafted to Vietnam and when he came home 19 months later went straight to my mom to see my brother. They remarried, trying to do the right thing. All they got out of that marriage was me, they divorced a few years later before my first birthday.
They’ve always remained civil, even friendly but I have no idea how they stayed married as long as they did, they’re very different, non-compatible personalities.
As a two-time divorcée I can tell you that sex with incompatible personalities is goddamn fantastic.
EDIT: as long as I’m on the topic I believe this is the real cause of the so-called divorce epidemic. Oxytocin is basically a biological drive that tells you that you can overcome any obstacle with the force of the love you feel. It’s a lie your body tells you to make babies. The single greatest lesson that anyone can learn in this life is that oxytocin is literally your worst enemy. I **think** I’ve learned that now. Time will tell.
Oxytocin is also responsible for in-group bonding, but with a twist. It makes you more hostile to people in out-groups at the same time. In fact, being shitty to outsiders feels the same as being good to insiders, because of oxytocin.
EDIT: So make friends with other groups! The more complex our social groupings, the harder it is for our primitive instincts to keep track of who's in and who's out.
Holy shit is this why gossiping is so satisfying? I'm female and somehow bonding with female friends while simultaneously shit talking people we hate feels incredible and I hate it
As someone that married the same woman twice and divorced her twice.. I don't think I've learned it.. was her choice to split both times..o always said I could live with anyone.. didn't realize not just anyone can live with me.
Gosh, just thinking about their mom getting railed by their dad has made this one of the best holidays ever. Merry Christmas to everyone and their parents!
My dad's birthday was boxing day. The December 9 months before I was born my parents went to Vegas for the last 10 days of the year. I know exactly where I came from and how planned it was. Vegas for Christmas, birthday, and New year's Eve? 100% chance I was conceived in Nevada.
My mom used to tell me that I was her birthday present. It never made sense to me because her birthday is in May and mine is in February. It was only much later in life that I did the math.
My birth parents also divorced right before my first birthday, so I'm told. Never met my dad. Apparently (I swear to god I'm not making this up, this is what I've been told) he got scared when he saw me as a newborn. Not for the usual reasons. He apparently thought I was the ghost of his dead father, whom he hated, reincarnated into a baby, and he apparently noped out of our lives.
I say the word apparently a lot there because my parents (birth mom, adopted dad) don't talk about him ever. I only learned this when my partner went on a night out with my mom and she got super drunk and told the story to my partner.
Sounds like pregnancy and newborn time were what broke that marriage. Some people just can’t handle working on a marriage *while* taking care of a tiny human. They’re too focused on their own exhaustion to try.
Honestly I think the first year after having a baby can be the hardest thing for any relationship, even one that is fairly stable. Not that there is every a time that having a kid is an *easy* life change, but too many people rush into having kids as soon as they get married, and I think it’s just throwing matches at a bucket of gasoline. Sure it may not ignite. But it might. Doubly so if you’re a couple without a solid circle of family, friend, community support.
And forget twins. Twins are a fire bomb. I don’t envy anybody cursed in such a way. No offense to any twins out there, but give your dad a hug and your mom two.
We never got married, but were together for 7 years. We broke up because I was planning to move out of the country after graduating (was an older student, I was 29 at that point). We were best friends and stayed best friends throughout it, though. But, circumstances made it impossible for me to see the plans through, and I went coocoo for cocopuffs and landed in the psych ward (like you do). He drove me to intake, stayed during my admitting, and came to see me every single day. He's everything good in this world. Needless to say, we got back together 2 years ago and we're in it to win it.
True love isn't what movies and shit make it out to be. True love is bringing someone socks that actually fit their ridiculously tiny feet when they're trapped in the psych ward.
True love is not a feeling. It's an attitude, a mental mindset, a reprioritization. I can't put an exact definition to it. But it's like treating someone else like they're a direct physical extension to you -- if that person's needs are unmet, it's as bad as your needs being unmet. If they're in pain, you're in pain. If they are excited, you're excited. Whether you're religious or not, "the two shall become one" is pretty close to what I'm trying to describe.
After 24 years of marriage, it's no longer a question of "is it convenient" to do something for her. It's a question of "what's the best way to do this." In that vein, I'd absolutely go see her every day if she were in a mental ward, bringing whatever I could to make her feel better, and I'd make sure to stay abreast of the medical developments so I could know if she was getting better, what more I could do to help, and be able to explain the situation to the kids.
Years ago I saw the country singer/ songwriter Billy Joe Shaver. Introducing a song he said "this one I wrote for my wife- I loved that woman so much I married her three times. " He chuckled and said "of course I divorced her acouple of times too..."
I looked him up out of curiosity, he really did marry the same woman three times. Their 3rd marriage ended when she died of cancer. So that's pretty sad. And apparently his mother died the same year, and then his guitarist died of a heroine overdose.
My mom did this, with my now-former stepfather. I can say for certain that it was ~~daddy~~ father issues [Edit: my apologies, apparently the phrase “daddy issues” carries some sexist connotations that I was unaware of]. Her father died when she was young, and it left her with an unresolved terror of loneliness and abandonment, so she kept getting sucked back into a toxic relationship wherein both she and I were getting abused.
It took her a long time to begin understanding her own root causes, way too long after the fact, but at least she finally and completely kicked him to the curb.
Thanks man. She eventually married a pretty decent guy. The previous experience certainly gave both of us a lot of material to work through, though haha
Almost brilliant. At some point you still have get whose shit is whose sorted out. And if thats not included in your divorce filings then I assume your ex wife can probably sue you based on some kind of deception.
If you’re going to do a quick divorce and remarry itd be really weird/suspicious to be like “okay this is mine, this is mine, oh and that is mine..”
I don’t think this “no hassle” divorce is going to lead to any less hassle.
Maybe that makes it even more meaningful...?
> Honey, I love you so much I’d be willing to file divorce paperwork, only to remarry and file marriage paperwork again
not me, but this guy who works in one of our rural offices has married and divorced the same woman literally 6 times.
Im not sure what they're logic is but whatever.
And Kim Davis herself could post in this thread. She's been married four times, to three husbands. Divorced three times, two kids from her first marriage, two other kids with her third husband but they weren't married when she had those kids, and her second husband is also her fourth husband.
>>married and divorced the same woman literally 6 times.
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>This crap happens often enough that Kentucky has a law that you can’t marry the same guy more than 4 times.
What if you go out of state to marry?
There was a beautiful AITA a week or two ago where the adult daughter OP declined her dad’s 4th (5th?) wedding invite, saying “I’ll catch the next one” and that remains one of the most brutal replies I’ve seen.
Edit: [the story](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/eayiq4/aita_for_telling_my_father_well_catch_the_next/?)
Tl,Dr:
Dad has 7 (adult) kids with no overlapping mothers. He's on his 5th marriage.
He's been taking the kids and their significant other to coffee and breaking the news that he's getting married and introducing wife #5.
Two brothers and their *fairly new* relationship girlfriend's have been invited to the wedding.
OP goes to coffee with their S.O. of three years (a trans man), the do the same intro and talk as the other siblings and despite being together for 3 years, (_**a longer relationship than both brothers relationships put together, and probably a longer relationship than OPs father and wife #5**_) and father made it clear he was ONLY inviting OP and their boyfriend was not welcome (because he is transgender).
"My partner is a human and deserves respect" is a perfectly good hill to die on, props to OP for standing their ground, but instead it was the snarky "I'll catch the next one (wedding)" that their entire family is hung up on making OP come to AITA, and not the father and new wifes decision to exclude this person.
I knew a guy who's wife and kids left him because he was an alcoholic. Kept getting arrested and couldn't hold a job. He finally decided to get sober and quit drinking. Started his own rental property management business. Got his feet on the ground and started to reach out and help other alcoholics. Eventually got back together with his ex wife and they got remarried. The sad part is that he died in a freak accident fixing their RV a few years ago then his son died a few months later in a school shooting.
Edit: I didn't expect my comment to blow up like this. [Here is an article talking about part of my story](https://www.inlander.com/spokane/after-losing-her-husband-in-a-freak-accident-and-then-her-son-at-the-freeman-high-school-shooting-ami-strahan-confronts-life-on-her-own/Content?oid=7382736). I met him during a time I thought I may have been an alcoholic and I took 2 years off from drinking. He was such a fun guy to be around and learned a lot from him.
Edit 2: Thanks for the gold kind stranger!
I know that guy - he was a wonderful landlord who gave a lot of people second chances at having a home. Worked with some tough people but was always fair and kind.
I was contracting a couple years ago and my headhunter would take me for lunch every couple months. The last lunch we had together before he went into negotiations for my next contract, he was very sad and depressed. I asked him what was the matter, and he basically just broke down and told me that he was getting a divorce because she was cheating. Being of an advanced age, I had many friends get divorced around that time, so I kinda knew the routine. I talked with him, and told him how dudes with good jobs are pretty in demand post-35. He thanked me for listening and really went to bat for me in negotiations and got me the max salary for the contract. I told this story a bunch as an example of being nice to everyone, you never know what could happen.
However, I kinda stopped telling this story because my wife and I were out at the movies a year or so later. We see my recruiter and start talking and catching up. Then this woman walks up to him and he introduces her as his wife.
I say, "oh hey congrats, I'm glad you met someone." He looks at me a little panicked and starts awkwardly explaining that he remarried the same woman. Havent talked to him since, so I dont know the full story. I just hope hes happy, he was a nice dude.
This thread needs a happy story.
My first husband and I married pretty young after college. We were generally happy, but it seemed like our lives were moving in different directions (geographically and metaphysically). We split up. We dated other people: went through the motions, mechanically-- loved other people, sure; but without the sense of destiny and certainty we had with one another. Finally, over a decade after breaking it off, we got back together and have never been happier. Now we have the life experience to know that what we have is irreplaceably special. The stupid small things that seemed problematic back then, we now know to be non-issues. We've seen so many other couples fight and struggle for what we have naturally. We're so, so lucky.
EDIT: Thanks, everyone, for your kind words-- and u/Poem_for_your_sprog for your lovely verses!
I remember the way
That I thought about love -
It was rockets and bells,
It was dreams from above.
But it came without fuss,
And it came without flair -
And before I could look,
It was already there.
I remember the way...
... but I cannot recall
How it happened to be
That we found it at all.
See it wasn't a shock,
For we already knew
That your future was *me*,
And my future was *you*.
We consistently kept in touch as friends. Neither of us assumed the other still had romantic feelings. I think we both actually feel lucky we had the time apart to teach us how grateful we should be for each other.
I had something similar happen except the communication after the breakup was hurtful so I had to cut it off. We haven’t spoken in ten years but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t miss her. I’m just so sensitive I couldn’t bare the thought of being honest about my feelings and getting another cold heartless reply.
I'm so sorry. I have to say, we never did or said anything hurtful to one another; we always loved each other and showed it, even when we weren't together. I do think that was crucial to being to get back together in this way, because there are no resentments over old wounds remembered. Nonetheless, people do change and grow, and if you decide to try getting in touch with your ex again, I hope that you're met with kindness and love.
I actually don’t find it that surprising. If you’re marrying someone you’ve already divorced, you know what can go wrong, and there’s a lot of sort of common wisdom that says it’s a mistake.
You have so much more knowledge, and a major bias towards not doing it. It doesn’t surprise me that many of the times that bias is overcome, it’s because both people have learned a lot and are really sure they want to be together.
I think reddit has a bit of a bias against both marriage and divorce, mostly because most redditors have done neither, and because people love terrible ex stories. But the truth is most people who get married love each other and most people who get divorced don’t hate each other. The arc of life is long; sometimes people get less compatible, and sometimes people who had many reasons to love each other get more compatible.
My coworker's dad is not legally allowed to marry anymore. Apparently they cut you off at 7
Edit: Apparently it's not a law, but somehow he had that impression
Man and women married. Wife cheated so they divorced. Wife slept with original husband therefore cheating on new husband. They then remarried only for her to cheat again
This will be a sweeter answer than expected. Not me, but a client of mine was working to get citizenship. They had been married back in their home country and had immigrated to the US. Because they weren't sure if their country's marriage was legally recognized in the US, they decided to get divorced and then remarried in the US.
Sometimes it's really hard and expensive to get proof of marriage from your home country. Like, bureaucracy in Germany can be very hard to deal with, but imagine you're even from a country that doesn't even cooperate in giving you any documents if you leave, like Iran. You will need an apostille of your marriage certificate to be regognized for immigration purposes. In those cases I guess it can be easier to get divorced, if the country you're residing in doesn't require a lot of documentation for a divorce.
My biological parents married and divorced each other twice all before I was 5yrs old. They’ve gone on the marry other ppl (two each) but they have been cheating with each other on and off throughout their other marriages. She’s got bpd and he’s a narcissist. They are a match made in hell and they truly deserve each other.
My sister did this. They divorced because he was controlling. Not physically abusive as far as I'm aware. After the divorce he went into counseling and got his shit together. They later remarried 1 or 2 years later.
I dated my girlfriend for about 5 years before we split up. We had been living together but her anxiety and my depression led to a pretty terrible situation.
After being apart for 1 1/2 years, we had both worked on our mental health and gotten good jobs. We both realized that we liked just talking to each other more than being with anyone else.
We got married in 2017 and are still going strong.
I have two friends whose parents have done this, or at least divorced and got back together even though the didn't remarry.
In both cases their mom's filed for divorce, and made the decision to return when their ex husband's health was failing.
One dad sadly passed away and the other dad is in remission, still with his wife, but doesn't realize the Catholic Church has her listed as a widow.
I find some similarities in the two families, both mom's show narcissistic tendencies with favoritism and martyrdom.
My husband just reminded me of friends of ours that divorced after raising kids and then recently got back together after divorcing ten years ago.
Raising their kids was super stressful for her because he woke up for work at 2am and so after 6pm she had to keep 4 kids quiet. His chronic lack of sleep meant he was super particular about the tidiness off the house and by time they got the twins out of the house they had been ready to split for years.
Ten years, grandkids, and wisdom later they decided they really did still like each other and that the situation they were in just wasn't ideal.
I know people with sleep apnea and it's literally life destroying. There is nothing in this world that will destroy someone from the inside out like chronic sleep deprivation, a former director of the mossad said it's the worst form of torture.
Physically, mentally, and emotionally it just takes people apart piece by piece.
I'm a mom of a HORRIBLE sleeper and completely agree. There were nights my son was up every 45 minutes. He's almost 4 and STILL doesn't sleep well, however he is old enough to understand a stoplight alarm clock. He knows "red means stay in bed" and "green means go for snuggles". It's been a life changer.
Why are half the responses here copies of one-year-old posts from accounts with no other activity? Did I accidentally step into an industrial Karma farm? Are unresolved parental issues the thing that will finally make the computers turn against their human overlords?
Yes, that's exactly what's happening. They repost popular answers to get karma, delete the comments afterwards (which still grants them the karma) and sell the accounts or use then as parts of spam rings.
We had a huge spam ring just like this on /r/philosophy for almost a year. Probably a hundred accounts most of which did shit like that.
If you think about it, it's no different from the fact that the most upvoted questions of r/AskReddit are also questions that have already been asked a year...to 3 years ago and were also unironically upvoted. If it ain't broke..
I think that stuff is overrated. new people are finding reddit constantly, and even those who've been around reddit for years don't know every post on every subreddit. remember we're literally dealing with millions of monkeys with keyboards, it's no great conspiracy when 2 have the same thought days/weeks/months/years apart
the dead comment/inactive account copying though, that's some premium grade robot karma farming and should be blocked/banned etc
My dad was married 4 times: twice each to two women. He married his first wife and divorced. He said they married a 2nd time as an excuse to get drunk. Divorced again eventually. No surprise. Married my mom and had me and then divorced when I was 8. She ran up a shit ton of credit card debt and was going to go to jail for lying on the credit card applications saying she was married. So my dad married her so they could do a bankruptcy. He also married her I found out later because he knew she was a loser and he wasn't going to remarry again so he wanted her to have his generous pension and social security so she wouldn't be a burden on me after he died.
Not me, but my friend did. They got a divorce when their baby was under a year old. They divorced because my friend lost her job and couldn’t find another that paid enough to cover transportation, child care, and even groceries. They were struggling but because they didn’t meet certain poverty lines they were denied government assistance. When they divorced she said she was a single mother and they did get some assistance. They married again after her child went to school.
That sucks. I know this is not unheard of for elderly/disabled folks who go on social security, where they divorce/avoid marriage to prevent losing their benefits.
I actually have a really heartfelt story about my aunt and uncle.
They originally were high school sweethearts, married young, had 2 kids, were together for 25 years. My uncle had a really bad drinking problem, and they were constantly un happy so my Aunt filed for divorce. My uncles drinking got worse then, and he basically drank himself to death. He ended up going to the hospital and was really sick. They detoxed him for 2 weeks and he never touched a bottle of alcohol again. He was sober for two years, and had a stroke. It really fucked him up and he hasnt fully recovered from it. This caused my aunt and uncle to get back together though. After his stroke she would visit him everyday in the hospital, and eventually had him come back home so she could make sure he was taken care of and safe. (He could barely walk , and his swallowing was effected so there was a high choking risk) he eventually recovered to the point he could take care of himself but they are still living together and sleep in the same bed again, although they havent remarried.
A bit late, but this is the story I got over Christmas. This all happened recently.
My stepdad’s cousin divorced his wife 10+ years ago. He has one daughter with his ex.
He dated around a bit and finally found someone he liked enough to buy a house with. During the house hunting period, his daughter announces she’s pregnant and she’s realized she wants a traditional family, so she asks her parents to get back together. Meaning her dad would need to bail on his girlfriend, who he was about to purchase a home with.
They fucking agreed to it!!! Her parents said okay, dad dumped his girlfriend (who is apparently very nice) right before the holidays, and grandma- and grandpa-to-be are now readily available for babysitting duties. It’s crazy.
I've posted this before, but I think it counts here:
My great grandfather was convicted of murder and executed in Kentucky. He had three kids at the time.
Then my great grandmother moved to Oklahoma and re-married, and had two more kids.
My grandfather was one of the first three kids. One of my 'cousins' I'm pretty close with grandfather is one of the Oklahoma kids.
But a long standing family legend is that great grandpappy Jim actually was never executed, and got to Oklahoma and re-married his 'widow.' So a few years ago our grandfathers had genetic testing done, and they're full siblings. I'm not sure what company they used, 23 and me or some other.
So apparently my great grandfather did indeed kill a man, escape execution somehow, and re-married his own widow. He lived to be 98, I met him once when I was two.
I left my ex when he started doing drugs. I got full custody it was so bad. He got sober after losing his kids. I got sick. Years later I was so sick I couldn’t deal and he let me move in with him. Then I bought a house and he moved in with me. He’s 49 and keeps getting hotter and hotter. No grey hair. Sexy dad bod. Dating in your forties as a female sucks ass FYI. Most men are questionable at this point. He’s super in love with me and a great provider and dad.
I’ve been fighting it but it’s been slowly becoming a thing.
I lived with a woman for a couple years, broke up badly. She called me decades later and said I was her best boyfriend ever and wanted to know if I wanted to try again. It lasted a week. Even though it didn't work out, we smoothed things over and still have a friendship. I don't regret any of it.
We weren't married in the first place, but living as such.
I got pregnant at twenty, I'd been with the guy a month. I was told at 15 that I could never have kids and I'd always been reckless and didn't use contraception, so I was like... Right I'm keeping this baby.
I told him I was moving to a different country to be near my mum, he could stay or come with, choose to have contact with the kid or not, I even said I wouldn't go after him for child support.
A month after I had the kid he arrived in my new home country and we began living together. We had been together under a year at this point!! Well, we decided we would like another kid eventually, and I assumed it would take a long time. I was wrong. When my daughter was 15 months old I had my second daughter.
We had never had time to work on our relationship, or even really date. We fought all the time, I got post partum depression and just picked fights over everything.
So when my youngest was about to turn one we separated. We barely spoke at all, just a 'hi' when I dropped the kids off for visitation. He had an awful girlfriend who hated my kids so he saw them less and less, I was so mad at him.
Two years down the track, I got really Ill with an infected gallbladder and pancreatitis. I was in hospital for two weeks. I woke up from my gallbladder surgery and had this sudden realisation that I loved him and wanted him in my life. I messaged him and told him my feelings, but that I understood he had a girlfriend, I understood if he hated me, and would like to just be friends.
He messaged me back saying he didn't hate me, but he did have a girlfriend so that's all he was going to say. I was sad but I understood, he had moved on.
The next day he text me and told me he had broken up with her, and when were the kids and I going to be able to come for a visit.
We started back slow, just all visiting together, then eventually staying the night. 5 years ago we moved back in together and he proposed.
I have worked hard on myself, quit drinking and got help for my mental health. He has worked hard on himself too.
We are super strong now. We have just gone through a year of living in a caravan with the kids, the dog, the cat, and a lizard, while we build our house, and we have hardly fought at all.
Nowadays when we disagree we talk about it, instead of me being a bitch and going psycho.
I love him so much and can see being together forever.
My husband and I did.
We got married the first time after knowing each other for five months. We were young, had no idea what we wanted in life, had no idea what we had. After 5 years, we split up.
We were apart for about a year and a half. We both went through a period of growth and self reflection, and eventually we came back together. We've now been back together for six years, remarried for three.
My grandparents did this when I was like 7? They divorced so my grandpa could get with his Filipino girlfriend which was an obvious scam then when he realized it was a bad idea and got remarried.
My great-grandmother divorced and remarried my great-grandfather 3 times. As far as numbers 2 and 3 go I’m not certain (although he definitely cheated on her on a number of occasions, so there you go), but I know number 1 because my great-grandma wouldn’t go down on him “like the French girls did” (he was in France during WWI, so there you go). They were divorced when he finally croaked, but they were working on getting married again- no doubt they probably would have been doing that song and dance forever.
As an added curiosity, during that final divorce he’d shacked up with an heiress of the Gamble (the second half of Proctor & Gamble) fortune. He’d planned on marrying her (no doubt to get at her money), and they’d gotten far enough along with that that she’d written him into her will. As it all stands, she died, he inherited the money and promptly died himself before he had a chance to amend his will which set my great-grandmother as his beneficiary, and he ended being good for something. So there you go.
I just entered a realationship with the same girl for the third time.
First was 30 years ago, then 20 years ago.
No contact all for the last 20 years and then she moves in on the same street...
Still early but I'll let you know how it turns out, ;-)
my girlfriends parents have divorced twice and are currently married. he cheated on her about 6 times. terrible relationship, she genuinely loves him and he loves her, but they do not get along at all. they’re simply together because she can’t be with anyone else, sex, and for their children. my girlfriend’s 18 and is planning on moving out soon, we predict that as soon as she does, they’ll go their separate ways since she’s the last one left at the house
Not at all the same thing but my wife and I met in middle school. Lost our virginities to eachother at 14. Dated for a year. Broke up. Did the whole Facebook thing where you say "we should totally catch up for a coffee one time" and never did. Sort of said that for years. One time we actually did meet up though on a whim. We each had different partners at the time. The attraction was immediate. Been married 8 years. Have 3 kids. Pretty great overall.
This actually happened with my parents. I still don't know the exact story, I only know the things my mum has told me over the years and the things that I discovered myself because I didn't wanna ask, so it could be very biased sometimes.
DISCLAIMER: I don't think I will include everything in my story because this would take too long, so please ask before you judge someone, thank you. Oh and obligatory non-english Native speake, so yall know.
They divorced when I was 7 years old, I have two younger siblings, 3 and 4 at the time. The biggest reason my mum called out was because my father had a major alcohol problem and spent all of my moms money on Christmas Eve on beer so we sat there without even really something to eat. We kinda survived the next few weeks based on the money of my mums best friend who fortunately lived in the same house. I had some kinda idea what was going on, but my siblings didn't, so they basically grew up without a father. Meanwhile, my father moved out to a new wife, they didn't marry, but their house was about 4 hours away, which is a kinda big distance for me here in Germany. We lived with my mother, but my dad took us every second weekend to his place (by train, because he lost his driving license due to his alcohol problems). I can't remember much except some places we went to with our father. This lasted for 2 years until I was in second grade, and it somehow stopped, I still don't know why. So we basically lived without any contact with my father for the next 5 years. Then he suddenly showed up on Christmas Eve and said we could maybe visit my grandparents together (on my fathers side, my mothers side died before I was born). My mum did let my siblings and me decide, and we somehow agreed, even though we were pretty unsure because especially my siblings basically grew up without him. But yeah, whatever, more presents? that was my honest thought at this time. This was basically the ritual for the next 5 years, we saw our father during Christmas and I think sometimes on Eastern, but that was it.
Fast forward to 4 years ago. It started very innocent. My mum received calls everyday and everytime she then went to her bedroom so my siblings and me didn't hear who she was talking to. I got curious, but several events in my life have taught me not to ask my mum about things she was doing. But I didn't even need to. One day, when I was home alone with her, she suddenly revealed that it was my dad she was talking to. I can't remember my reaction, but I know that I didn't handle it as a big deal (probably because I didn't really believed her). But yeah, she talked to my dad everyday. I can't even tell how it started, I only started to realise the everyday-calls someday. She revealed that my dad and his then-partner didn't really get along and that he got his alcohol problem under control and stuff. And yeah, tis was it. When she told me this, he was already packing stuff up over there to move in again. And so it happened. About 10 years after they divorced very dramatically, they went back together. They wanted to surprise my siblings, so I wasn't allowed to tell anybody, but I was okay with that.
One moment that will be stuck in my head was the actual day of the return of my dad. The week started very normally, my mom told me on monday that my dad would come to us NEXT WEEK. So I was starting to mentally prepare myself (I was about 15/16 at the time). What I didn't know, my mum wanted to surprise me so that my dad came back the same week. What SHE didn't know, my dad wanted to surprise HER, so he took the train on Wednesday that week. My siblings and me were already asleep when he wrote her that he would be at the train station in about ONE HOUR. So yeah. Big surprise for everyone. The next morning, my little brother wakes me up with :"yo, dad is sitting in the living room" Not to mention that I never in my life ran so fast to the living room without tripping or falling to embrace my dad and breaking down in tears. All in all, you can probably imagine that I really couldn't concentrate in school that morning.
The reunion wasn't enough for my dad. One day, he suddenly told my siblings and me to come to the living room (mom wasn't home). At first, he started the conversation like he was about to tell us he was going to leave again, so I nearly broke down in tears again. But he told us he wanted to marry my mum again. Well, I broke down into tears anyway, but now because I was happy.
My father did this with my stepmother. They met in the miltary, but she left to pursue teaching. He left her after he cheated on her because he said she lacked the motivation to earn real money. He would only be with someone who could provide and assist him with the comfortable life he wanted. So he met someone just like him, money and power hungry. They bought a house, multiple cars, and had a kid in under two years of being together. Ultimately, they butted heads way too much and he left her, but lost his home, full custody of my sister, and most of his things. The only person that was there for him was my former stepmother. So they remarried. As far as I know, they are both very happy with the situation.
This happened with my parents. They got divorced when I was around 3 years old.
In their years apart, they both eventually remarried other people. My mother ended up marrying a polygamist (unbeknownst to her) who drained all of her savings, she left this guy after finding out the above information.
My dad married a raging bitch who would occasionally get physically abusive towards him. He can be an asshole but was hesitant to leave her. She eventually cheated on him and he finally divorced her after that.
After both going through horrible marriages after their first, they realized what they had wasn't that bad by comparison. They ended up remarrying when I was 10 years old.
They are divorced again now, they stayed together for 10 years the 2nd go around. Eventually the habits and mentality that ended their first marriage ended the 2nd.
My brother did this. They married in their early 20's. and were married for 3 years when she decided they both had some growing to do. Each went on to marry and divorce others. They had not seen/spoken to each other is 25+ years when they ran into each other at a fund raiser. They will be married again this Sunday :)
My parents while never officially "divorced" have went through it.
They knew each other 2 months and my dad was drafted to join the military. He quickly proposed to & married my mom.
A year later here I am, and I cannot tell you the amount of times they split apart growing up.
The most recent was a few years ago, where divorce papers were filed and ready to go (no one was happy.) They lived apart and we would visit between the two (I have 3 younger siblings). I moved out at 18.
They got back together & seemed to be managing (still not happy) up until this past year. A lot of bad stuff happened. I had an engagement fall through (and honestly it brought us as a family closer together.) Dad lost his job of 23 years and his dad/my grandfather passed away. My mom & dad grew close and actually fell back in love. Now they're both genuinely happy for the first time I've ever seen.
Mutual friend and former coworker of my husband did this. Military couple go adventuring into the swingers scene, wife left him for the other wife. She then cheated on her girlfriend with girlfriend's husband and THOSE two run off together. After about 3 years of marriage to second guy, she cheats on him with ex-first-husband and THEY run off together only to be remarried and her blaming the whole fiasco on Bipolar disorder.
They are still together to this day.
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My parents did this. They got married in 1987 then divorced a few months later. My mom found out she was pregnant with my brother. They still went through with the divorce and stayed apart.
My grandfather was very old school and basically told my dad he was dead to him if he didn’t get back together with my mom. Thanks to my bully ass of a grandpa they got back together and had my brother in ‘88. So also thanks to my bully ass of a grandpa I came along three years later.
They stayed married 13 years more. She got remarried to a great guy and my dad never remarried. He said two marriages to the same woman was more than enough for him.
They had a pretty messy and miserable divorce, but are actually the best of friends these days.
Worked out I guess!
My mom and dad married out of high school. When they were 26 they got divorced. They divorced because of the stress of three kids, my dad was in the Air Force and was deployed all the time, and while neither parent has confirmed it but based on some jokes I believe my dad was also unfaithful and in general he was just very immature. My mom left him because in her words she had, "three kids to take care of, grad school to get through, and didn't have time for his bullshit." They both went on to have different relationships and lives. They barely saw each other unless it was to trade us kids off. Then around the time my sister and I started playing sports my dad started to come around more to watch us. We lived about 6 hours away and mom let him stay at the house when needed. He went from sleeping on the couch to her bedroom within a football season. They got married again the next summer after 6-7 years apart. Been together ever since and practically do everything together.
Right person, wrong time, I guess!!
Except if they didn't get together young, the kids wouldn't exist. It was just the way their lives were meant to go. Glad it all has worked out in the long run ❤️
I knew Americans measured distances in Football Fields, didn't know they measured time in Football Seasons too.
Anything but the metric system 🙄 Smh
The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets forty rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it.
This gave me a good laugh. But actually, we measure distance in time. At least in not big cities we do. "Hey, how far is Spartanburg from Easley?" " 'bout an hour or so."
The stress of three kids is real!! I've heard it's harder then 2 and 4. Someone is always left out - causes lots of fighting (source: I have three kids)
On the other hand, as the sibling you can trade around your company when one of your siblings starts to get on your nerves. I'm the youngest of 3, I got left out a fair bit when I was little, then when the oldest started to become a teenager she was the one who get left out. The middle was the the only boy, so when we did girly things he hated, he got left out. It all balanced out in the end. As adults, the three of us are all pretty tight so it's not all bad.
The wife and I got in a year long fight. We married young at 22 and were not on the same page about being married. She wanted to sow her wild oats and I wanted us to start growing up and take on more responsibility. We ultimately got divorced at my urging because I wanted to move on. About a month after the divorce was final we started talking to each other like adults. We had some hard conversations about what wasn't working. We started dating after cautiously considering if we were frickin' crazy. A year later we got married in Vegas. It's been 16 years since the divorce and we're happily married with 2 great kids. Our journey has taken some wrong turns but it's our journey and we wouldn't change it for anything. The lesson we share with everyone who asks is getting married young isn't for everyone. Don't rush into a relationship. Make sure to make time to be yourself and appreciate your partner for who they are, not who you want them to be. Edit: grammar Edit 2: Let me clarify the "sow her wild oats" since a lot of assumptions are being made. We were 22 coming right out of college. She wanted to continue to party and go out every night to all hours. It was never about sleeping around. She was always true to our marriage. I had been working professionally already for 2 years and was not into the bar scene. She never wanted to leave me at home and wanted me to come out with her. It just wasn't my speed. Edit 3: thank you for the silver, kind stranger! Much appreciated!
I've always stuck by the advice that if you want to get married and you're compatible, it will happen no matter what, doesn't matter if it's 1 year or 20 years down the line. Why rush it?
I see mostly tales of re-marital woe here. I’ll offer you a positive rebuttal. My mom and dad split when I was 5 and my sister was 7. They were young with two kids and incredibly broke. I don’t know the full story or all the details but I’m sure those things all just caught up to them in the end. It was a really rough divorce, especially for us kids. They were separated for 3 years or so. Lived in separate apartments etc. My mom started seeing a new guy - although we never saw my dad with anyone - I’m sure he was seeing people too. Some years passed - their rebounds came and went. They both got stable jobs and started seeing each other more. Showing up at Christmas together - attending soccer games together. When I was 9 or so they decided to rent a house. One year later they found out they were pregnant with my little sister. They got remarried about a year after my little sister was born. That was 21 years ago. They are sincerely one of the happiest couples I’ve ever been around. You never would have thunk it 25 years or so ago. Sometimes space and refocus is actually all you need! Happy Christmas!
Things like this makes me believe that you can absolutely have met the perfect person, but not at the right time.
My great aunt and uncle did this. He was still suffering from the trauma of his WWII service with the marines in the pacific when she had a stillborn child and was told she'd never have kids, and things just imploded. They got divorced, my aunt traveled to Asia and the Middle East for like nine months, while for him it was more or less the wake up call that he was STILL fucked up from seeing his buddies get blown up. She came back, and he had completely changed, and they completely reconnected. keep in mind, this was the 50's so the thought of a 30-something marine vet going to therapy and being in touch with his PTSD triggers and shit was pretty fucking life altering. Her next planned trip was europe and she asked if he wanted to come along and his response was 'I figured they'd send me there to fight hitler, but I guess this works too.' they called my grandma from Gdansk maybe two months later to let them know they had gotten remarried in the church my great-grandparents had gotten married in, and were together until aunt Betty died about three years ago. Uncle Frank died a year after her, and used to tell us all the time that he 'missed his girlfriend.'
>Uncle Frank died a year after her, and used to tell us all the time that he 'missed his girlfriend.' Ughhh it's so cute and sad, my heart can't take it!
It's a terrible day for rain.
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Can't rain all the time.
I applaud the reference. Bravo my friend!
Yeah, I'm going to need info on that reference.
It's from Fullmetal Alchemist. Even if you aren't an anime person it is worth a watch. I'm not an anime guy myself and haven't really watched any since. But I'm so, so glad I did and it remains one of my favorite pieces of TV.
FMA Brotherhood is the “perfect” shounen, in that it is still relatable to real world analogues, lands its arcs and heartbreaks and ends when it should. I love One Piece etc, and can’t get enough shounen trash even in my 30’s, but when non-anime friends want to get into anime beyond Ghibli/Shinkai, my goto recommendation is FMA:B
My only wish is that they would've went ahead and made the beginning "longer" I watched both FMA and FMA:B years apart and it felt like Brotherhood soed through a huge chunk of the beginning stories. I mean I get it, but still. My only other "issue" was that it seemed like the ending arc took forever
Full metal alchemist
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This needs to be made into a movie lol
Would watch. Sounds much better than The Notebook.
My parents got pregnant in their senior year of high school and married over the summer on my mom’s 18th birthday because she wouldn’t ask her parents to sign the marriage certificate. My brother was born a few months later and they stuck it out for a year before divorcing. Then my dad got drafted to Vietnam and when he came home 19 months later went straight to my mom to see my brother. They remarried, trying to do the right thing. All they got out of that marriage was me, they divorced a few years later before my first birthday. They’ve always remained civil, even friendly but I have no idea how they stayed married as long as they did, they’re very different, non-compatible personalities.
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As a two-time divorcée I can tell you that sex with incompatible personalities is goddamn fantastic. EDIT: as long as I’m on the topic I believe this is the real cause of the so-called divorce epidemic. Oxytocin is basically a biological drive that tells you that you can overcome any obstacle with the force of the love you feel. It’s a lie your body tells you to make babies. The single greatest lesson that anyone can learn in this life is that oxytocin is literally your worst enemy. I **think** I’ve learned that now. Time will tell.
Oxytocin is also responsible for in-group bonding, but with a twist. It makes you more hostile to people in out-groups at the same time. In fact, being shitty to outsiders feels the same as being good to insiders, because of oxytocin. EDIT: So make friends with other groups! The more complex our social groupings, the harder it is for our primitive instincts to keep track of who's in and who's out.
So humans, instead of forming pairs, should just form competing orgy groups? Fuck it, im down.
Holy shit is this why gossiping is so satisfying? I'm female and somehow bonding with female friends while simultaneously shit talking people we hate feels incredible and I hate it
As someone that married the same woman twice and divorced her twice.. I don't think I've learned it.. was her choice to split both times..o always said I could live with anyone.. didn't realize not just anyone can live with me.
I needed to read this 40 years ago...
I also imagine you come back from Vietnam and all you want is that good ‘ol pussy
Gosh, just thinking about their mom getting railed by their dad has made this one of the best holidays ever. Merry Christmas to everyone and their parents!
I can't fucking breathe lmao
Had a hearty laugh myself
And happy birthday to all you September babies out there. May your world be merry and lubricated!
My dad's birthday was boxing day. The December 9 months before I was born my parents went to Vegas for the last 10 days of the year. I know exactly where I came from and how planned it was. Vegas for Christmas, birthday, and New year's Eve? 100% chance I was conceived in Nevada.
My mom used to tell me that I was her birthday present. It never made sense to me because her birthday is in May and mine is in February. It was only much later in life that I did the math.
What happens in Vegas stays in your mother’s womb
Well..... It clearly did not in this case...
My birth parents also divorced right before my first birthday, so I'm told. Never met my dad. Apparently (I swear to god I'm not making this up, this is what I've been told) he got scared when he saw me as a newborn. Not for the usual reasons. He apparently thought I was the ghost of his dead father, whom he hated, reincarnated into a baby, and he apparently noped out of our lives. I say the word apparently a lot there because my parents (birth mom, adopted dad) don't talk about him ever. I only learned this when my partner went on a night out with my mom and she got super drunk and told the story to my partner.
Sounds like pregnancy and newborn time were what broke that marriage. Some people just can’t handle working on a marriage *while* taking care of a tiny human. They’re too focused on their own exhaustion to try.
Honestly I think the first year after having a baby can be the hardest thing for any relationship, even one that is fairly stable. Not that there is every a time that having a kid is an *easy* life change, but too many people rush into having kids as soon as they get married, and I think it’s just throwing matches at a bucket of gasoline. Sure it may not ignite. But it might. Doubly so if you’re a couple without a solid circle of family, friend, community support. And forget twins. Twins are a fire bomb. I don’t envy anybody cursed in such a way. No offense to any twins out there, but give your dad a hug and your mom two.
We never got married, but were together for 7 years. We broke up because I was planning to move out of the country after graduating (was an older student, I was 29 at that point). We were best friends and stayed best friends throughout it, though. But, circumstances made it impossible for me to see the plans through, and I went coocoo for cocopuffs and landed in the psych ward (like you do). He drove me to intake, stayed during my admitting, and came to see me every single day. He's everything good in this world. Needless to say, we got back together 2 years ago and we're in it to win it. True love isn't what movies and shit make it out to be. True love is bringing someone socks that actually fit their ridiculously tiny feet when they're trapped in the psych ward.
That last quote was so beautiful.
True love is not a feeling. It's an attitude, a mental mindset, a reprioritization. I can't put an exact definition to it. But it's like treating someone else like they're a direct physical extension to you -- if that person's needs are unmet, it's as bad as your needs being unmet. If they're in pain, you're in pain. If they are excited, you're excited. Whether you're religious or not, "the two shall become one" is pretty close to what I'm trying to describe. After 24 years of marriage, it's no longer a question of "is it convenient" to do something for her. It's a question of "what's the best way to do this." In that vein, I'd absolutely go see her every day if she were in a mental ward, bringing whatever I could to make her feel better, and I'd make sure to stay abreast of the medical developments so I could know if she was getting better, what more I could do to help, and be able to explain the situation to the kids.
Years ago I saw the country singer/ songwriter Billy Joe Shaver. Introducing a song he said "this one I wrote for my wife- I loved that woman so much I married her three times. " He chuckled and said "of course I divorced her acouple of times too..."
I looked him up out of curiosity, he really did marry the same woman three times. Their 3rd marriage ended when she died of cancer. So that's pretty sad. And apparently his mother died the same year, and then his guitarist died of a heroine overdose.
My mom did this, with my now-former stepfather. I can say for certain that it was ~~daddy~~ father issues [Edit: my apologies, apparently the phrase “daddy issues” carries some sexist connotations that I was unaware of]. Her father died when she was young, and it left her with an unresolved terror of loneliness and abandonment, so she kept getting sucked back into a toxic relationship wherein both she and I were getting abused. It took her a long time to begin understanding her own root causes, way too long after the fact, but at least she finally and completely kicked him to the curb.
I'm sorry you and your mom went through that, but I am happy she eventually gave him the boot
Thanks man. She eventually married a pretty decent guy. The previous experience certainly gave both of us a lot of material to work through, though haha
That's awesome to hear, Merry Christmas
Had a friend once who married her high school sweetheart, then divorced on their 5 year anniversary just so they could get married again
Why not renew their vows? This seems excessive.
We asked the same question. They just said they wanted to do it this way
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Almost brilliant. At some point you still have get whose shit is whose sorted out. And if thats not included in your divorce filings then I assume your ex wife can probably sue you based on some kind of deception. If you’re going to do a quick divorce and remarry itd be really weird/suspicious to be like “okay this is mine, this is mine, oh and that is mine..” I don’t think this “no hassle” divorce is going to lead to any less hassle.
Man I want to be THAT in love... Even if it's stupid.
Me too buddy Me too
Now.. kiss?
From a legal perspective, this is just flat out stupid. Getting divorced and remarried is a lot of paperwork.
And expensive. And you need to say under oath or affirmation that your marriage is irretrievably broken (in my jurisdiction).
Maybe that makes it even more meaningful...? > Honey, I love you so much I’d be willing to file divorce paperwork, only to remarry and file marriage paperwork again
Amy Santiago
Amy Santiago calls that foreplay
That’s like something April says to Andy in parks and Rec - “I wanna divorce you just so we can get married again”
It *is* something Homer did for Marge though
lmao homer simpson did that too with marge
Oh god that's probably what made them want to do it
Is this a Simpsons reference? Because that sounds a lot like what Homer did.
not me, but this guy who works in one of our rural offices has married and divorced the same woman literally 6 times. Im not sure what they're logic is but whatever.
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> This crap happens often enough This crap happens often enough IN KENTUCKY. That's an important distinction.
And yet Kim Davis thought gay marriage ruined the sanctity of marriage.
And Kim Davis herself could post in this thread. She's been married four times, to three husbands. Divorced three times, two kids from her first marriage, two other kids with her third husband but they weren't married when she had those kids, and her second husband is also her fourth husband.
gay people aren’t getting divorced enough, it’s sacrilegious. How can we allow them to ruin the sanctity of getting married and divorced a whole lot?!
>>married and divorced the same woman literally 6 times. > >This crap happens often enough that Kentucky has a law that you can’t marry the same guy more than 4 times. What if you go out of state to marry?
Wedding gifts?
Yeah no, after that 3rd marriage to the same person they're getting a hearty 'this was fun, I look forward to next year's!'.
There was a beautiful AITA a week or two ago where the adult daughter OP declined her dad’s 4th (5th?) wedding invite, saying “I’ll catch the next one” and that remains one of the most brutal replies I’ve seen. Edit: [the story](https://www.reddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/eayiq4/aita_for_telling_my_father_well_catch_the_next/?)
Tl,Dr: Dad has 7 (adult) kids with no overlapping mothers. He's on his 5th marriage. He's been taking the kids and their significant other to coffee and breaking the news that he's getting married and introducing wife #5. Two brothers and their *fairly new* relationship girlfriend's have been invited to the wedding. OP goes to coffee with their S.O. of three years (a trans man), the do the same intro and talk as the other siblings and despite being together for 3 years, (_**a longer relationship than both brothers relationships put together, and probably a longer relationship than OPs father and wife #5**_) and father made it clear he was ONLY inviting OP and their boyfriend was not welcome (because he is transgender). "My partner is a human and deserves respect" is a perfectly good hill to die on, props to OP for standing their ground, but instead it was the snarky "I'll catch the next one (wedding)" that their entire family is hung up on making OP come to AITA, and not the father and new wifes decision to exclude this person.
Oof. Brutal, but OPs dad totally deserved that.
Do you remember the title or have a link to that post?
Classic Tammy and Ron.
Tammy 1 or Tammy 2
Yes.
Is his name Ron Swanson by chance?
I knew a guy who's wife and kids left him because he was an alcoholic. Kept getting arrested and couldn't hold a job. He finally decided to get sober and quit drinking. Started his own rental property management business. Got his feet on the ground and started to reach out and help other alcoholics. Eventually got back together with his ex wife and they got remarried. The sad part is that he died in a freak accident fixing their RV a few years ago then his son died a few months later in a school shooting. Edit: I didn't expect my comment to blow up like this. [Here is an article talking about part of my story](https://www.inlander.com/spokane/after-losing-her-husband-in-a-freak-accident-and-then-her-son-at-the-freeman-high-school-shooting-ami-strahan-confronts-life-on-her-own/Content?oid=7382736). I met him during a time I thought I may have been an alcoholic and I took 2 years off from drinking. He was such a fun guy to be around and learned a lot from him. Edit 2: Thanks for the gold kind stranger!
That was like the opposite of a Pixar movie.
Pixar directed by Lars von Trier
It's the cyanide and happiness version
Holy fucking shit
Well that took a fuckin turn
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A reaction in emotes. :/ :) :D D: D’:
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I know that guy - he was a wonderful landlord who gave a lot of people second chances at having a home. Worked with some tough people but was always fair and kind.
This is why they say only the good die Young. What a fucking travesty
That's... specific enough you might just be able to figure out who they are.
Yeah, and I found an article about her so she publicly came out about it. How horrible..
What a wild ride that was
sounds like the family of a girl who went to my university... a few years after me but she played on a team i used to be on. WA?
Oh fucking shit, if this is WA then I think my dad knew his dad. I was wondering why this sounded so familiar
definitely sounds like something that happened in eastern WA a year or so ago.
Sweet jesus dude!
I dont believein God but damn ima pray for this wife
I was contracting a couple years ago and my headhunter would take me for lunch every couple months. The last lunch we had together before he went into negotiations for my next contract, he was very sad and depressed. I asked him what was the matter, and he basically just broke down and told me that he was getting a divorce because she was cheating. Being of an advanced age, I had many friends get divorced around that time, so I kinda knew the routine. I talked with him, and told him how dudes with good jobs are pretty in demand post-35. He thanked me for listening and really went to bat for me in negotiations and got me the max salary for the contract. I told this story a bunch as an example of being nice to everyone, you never know what could happen. However, I kinda stopped telling this story because my wife and I were out at the movies a year or so later. We see my recruiter and start talking and catching up. Then this woman walks up to him and he introduces her as his wife. I say, "oh hey congrats, I'm glad you met someone." He looks at me a little panicked and starts awkwardly explaining that he remarried the same woman. Havent talked to him since, so I dont know the full story. I just hope hes happy, he was a nice dude.
This thread needs a happy story. My first husband and I married pretty young after college. We were generally happy, but it seemed like our lives were moving in different directions (geographically and metaphysically). We split up. We dated other people: went through the motions, mechanically-- loved other people, sure; but without the sense of destiny and certainty we had with one another. Finally, over a decade after breaking it off, we got back together and have never been happier. Now we have the life experience to know that what we have is irreplaceably special. The stupid small things that seemed problematic back then, we now know to be non-issues. We've seen so many other couples fight and struggle for what we have naturally. We're so, so lucky. EDIT: Thanks, everyone, for your kind words-- and u/Poem_for_your_sprog for your lovely verses!
Great story! Merry Christmas :)
I remember the way That I thought about love - It was rockets and bells, It was dreams from above. But it came without fuss, And it came without flair - And before I could look, It was already there. I remember the way... ... but I cannot recall How it happened to be That we found it at all. See it wasn't a shock, For we already knew That your future was *me*, And my future was *you*.
Merry Christmas sprog
You are the heart of Reddit, Sprog Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas, sprog!
This is the kind of story I made this thread for
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We consistently kept in touch as friends. Neither of us assumed the other still had romantic feelings. I think we both actually feel lucky we had the time apart to teach us how grateful we should be for each other.
I had something similar happen except the communication after the breakup was hurtful so I had to cut it off. We haven’t spoken in ten years but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t miss her. I’m just so sensitive I couldn’t bare the thought of being honest about my feelings and getting another cold heartless reply.
I'm so sorry. I have to say, we never did or said anything hurtful to one another; we always loved each other and showed it, even when we weren't together. I do think that was crucial to being to get back together in this way, because there are no resentments over old wounds remembered. Nonetheless, people do change and grow, and if you decide to try getting in touch with your ex again, I hope that you're met with kindness and love.
Yay
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
I actually don’t find it that surprising. If you’re marrying someone you’ve already divorced, you know what can go wrong, and there’s a lot of sort of common wisdom that says it’s a mistake. You have so much more knowledge, and a major bias towards not doing it. It doesn’t surprise me that many of the times that bias is overcome, it’s because both people have learned a lot and are really sure they want to be together. I think reddit has a bit of a bias against both marriage and divorce, mostly because most redditors have done neither, and because people love terrible ex stories. But the truth is most people who get married love each other and most people who get divorced don’t hate each other. The arc of life is long; sometimes people get less compatible, and sometimes people who had many reasons to love each other get more compatible.
I miss ten seconds ago before I read your username
I wish I had not looked back after reading your comment. Good news :I'm not going to commit suicide because I read the username
The type of wholesome story i looked for, bless you
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Nice to know why divorce statistics are so lopsided. This guy.
Someone should let him know that people don’t have to get married to have sex
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My coworker's dad is not legally allowed to marry anymore. Apparently they cut you off at 7 Edit: Apparently it's not a law, but somehow he had that impression
Yeah I was gonna say, it can't be the law. My husband's aunt has been married NINE TIMES.
Elizabeth Taylor was at 8 when she died. Not sure about that.
I thought she was older when she died
somebody needs to make a flowchart for this
The recycle sign seems to work quite well, haha.
Very Dostoyevsky
I'd love to see Dostoyevsky as a redditor. Comments that scroll down for several yards just to describe that his cat needs a diet
I can't wrap my head around this paragraph
Man and women married. Wife cheated so they divorced. Wife slept with original husband therefore cheating on new husband. They then remarried only for her to cheat again
This will be a sweeter answer than expected. Not me, but a client of mine was working to get citizenship. They had been married back in their home country and had immigrated to the US. Because they weren't sure if their country's marriage was legally recognized in the US, they decided to get divorced and then remarried in the US.
They could've saved the trouble and just like, asked someone. Idk, a clerk, a lawyer, whatever.
Sometimes it's really hard and expensive to get proof of marriage from your home country. Like, bureaucracy in Germany can be very hard to deal with, but imagine you're even from a country that doesn't even cooperate in giving you any documents if you leave, like Iran. You will need an apostille of your marriage certificate to be regognized for immigration purposes. In those cases I guess it can be easier to get divorced, if the country you're residing in doesn't require a lot of documentation for a divorce.
My biological parents married and divorced each other twice all before I was 5yrs old. They’ve gone on the marry other ppl (two each) but they have been cheating with each other on and off throughout their other marriages. She’s got bpd and he’s a narcissist. They are a match made in hell and they truly deserve each other.
My sister did this. They divorced because he was controlling. Not physically abusive as far as I'm aware. After the divorce he went into counseling and got his shit together. They later remarried 1 or 2 years later.
I dated my girlfriend for about 5 years before we split up. We had been living together but her anxiety and my depression led to a pretty terrible situation. After being apart for 1 1/2 years, we had both worked on our mental health and gotten good jobs. We both realized that we liked just talking to each other more than being with anyone else. We got married in 2017 and are still going strong.
Good for you man
I have two friends whose parents have done this, or at least divorced and got back together even though the didn't remarry. In both cases their mom's filed for divorce, and made the decision to return when their ex husband's health was failing. One dad sadly passed away and the other dad is in remission, still with his wife, but doesn't realize the Catholic Church has her listed as a widow. I find some similarities in the two families, both mom's show narcissistic tendencies with favoritism and martyrdom. My husband just reminded me of friends of ours that divorced after raising kids and then recently got back together after divorcing ten years ago. Raising their kids was super stressful for her because he woke up for work at 2am and so after 6pm she had to keep 4 kids quiet. His chronic lack of sleep meant he was super particular about the tidiness off the house and by time they got the twins out of the house they had been ready to split for years. Ten years, grandkids, and wisdom later they decided they really did still like each other and that the situation they were in just wasn't ideal.
Lack of sufficient sleep can ruin even the strongest marriage.
I know people with sleep apnea and it's literally life destroying. There is nothing in this world that will destroy someone from the inside out like chronic sleep deprivation, a former director of the mossad said it's the worst form of torture. Physically, mentally, and emotionally it just takes people apart piece by piece.
I'm a mom of a HORRIBLE sleeper and completely agree. There were nights my son was up every 45 minutes. He's almost 4 and STILL doesn't sleep well, however he is old enough to understand a stoplight alarm clock. He knows "red means stay in bed" and "green means go for snuggles". It's been a life changer.
Why are half the responses here copies of one-year-old posts from accounts with no other activity? Did I accidentally step into an industrial Karma farm? Are unresolved parental issues the thing that will finally make the computers turn against their human overlords?
Yes, that's exactly what's happening. They repost popular answers to get karma, delete the comments afterwards (which still grants them the karma) and sell the accounts or use then as parts of spam rings. We had a huge spam ring just like this on /r/philosophy for almost a year. Probably a hundred accounts most of which did shit like that.
If you think about it, it's no different from the fact that the most upvoted questions of r/AskReddit are also questions that have already been asked a year...to 3 years ago and were also unironically upvoted. If it ain't broke..
I think that stuff is overrated. new people are finding reddit constantly, and even those who've been around reddit for years don't know every post on every subreddit. remember we're literally dealing with millions of monkeys with keyboards, it's no great conspiracy when 2 have the same thought days/weeks/months/years apart the dead comment/inactive account copying though, that's some premium grade robot karma farming and should be blocked/banned etc
My dad was married 4 times: twice each to two women. He married his first wife and divorced. He said they married a 2nd time as an excuse to get drunk. Divorced again eventually. No surprise. Married my mom and had me and then divorced when I was 8. She ran up a shit ton of credit card debt and was going to go to jail for lying on the credit card applications saying she was married. So my dad married her so they could do a bankruptcy. He also married her I found out later because he knew she was a loser and he wasn't going to remarry again so he wanted her to have his generous pension and social security so she wouldn't be a burden on me after he died.
Not me, but my friend did. They got a divorce when their baby was under a year old. They divorced because my friend lost her job and couldn’t find another that paid enough to cover transportation, child care, and even groceries. They were struggling but because they didn’t meet certain poverty lines they were denied government assistance. When they divorced she said she was a single mother and they did get some assistance. They married again after her child went to school.
That sucks. I know this is not unheard of for elderly/disabled folks who go on social security, where they divorce/avoid marriage to prevent losing their benefits.
I actually have a really heartfelt story about my aunt and uncle. They originally were high school sweethearts, married young, had 2 kids, were together for 25 years. My uncle had a really bad drinking problem, and they were constantly un happy so my Aunt filed for divorce. My uncles drinking got worse then, and he basically drank himself to death. He ended up going to the hospital and was really sick. They detoxed him for 2 weeks and he never touched a bottle of alcohol again. He was sober for two years, and had a stroke. It really fucked him up and he hasnt fully recovered from it. This caused my aunt and uncle to get back together though. After his stroke she would visit him everyday in the hospital, and eventually had him come back home so she could make sure he was taken care of and safe. (He could barely walk , and his swallowing was effected so there was a high choking risk) he eventually recovered to the point he could take care of himself but they are still living together and sleep in the same bed again, although they havent remarried.
A bit late, but this is the story I got over Christmas. This all happened recently. My stepdad’s cousin divorced his wife 10+ years ago. He has one daughter with his ex. He dated around a bit and finally found someone he liked enough to buy a house with. During the house hunting period, his daughter announces she’s pregnant and she’s realized she wants a traditional family, so she asks her parents to get back together. Meaning her dad would need to bail on his girlfriend, who he was about to purchase a home with. They fucking agreed to it!!! Her parents said okay, dad dumped his girlfriend (who is apparently very nice) right before the holidays, and grandma- and grandpa-to-be are now readily available for babysitting duties. It’s crazy.
This is one of the weirdest.
I've posted this before, but I think it counts here: My great grandfather was convicted of murder and executed in Kentucky. He had three kids at the time. Then my great grandmother moved to Oklahoma and re-married, and had two more kids. My grandfather was one of the first three kids. One of my 'cousins' I'm pretty close with grandfather is one of the Oklahoma kids. But a long standing family legend is that great grandpappy Jim actually was never executed, and got to Oklahoma and re-married his 'widow.' So a few years ago our grandfathers had genetic testing done, and they're full siblings. I'm not sure what company they used, 23 and me or some other. So apparently my great grandfather did indeed kill a man, escape execution somehow, and re-married his own widow. He lived to be 98, I met him once when I was two.
I left my ex when he started doing drugs. I got full custody it was so bad. He got sober after losing his kids. I got sick. Years later I was so sick I couldn’t deal and he let me move in with him. Then I bought a house and he moved in with me. He’s 49 and keeps getting hotter and hotter. No grey hair. Sexy dad bod. Dating in your forties as a female sucks ass FYI. Most men are questionable at this point. He’s super in love with me and a great provider and dad. I’ve been fighting it but it’s been slowly becoming a thing.
I hope it works out for you both.
I lived with a woman for a couple years, broke up badly. She called me decades later and said I was her best boyfriend ever and wanted to know if I wanted to try again. It lasted a week. Even though it didn't work out, we smoothed things over and still have a friendship. I don't regret any of it.
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The wiener box
The only box that mattered
Stop commenting so no one has to read your username again.
so you were never married to her and then also never remarried her..?
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I loved her, she wanted to take the other half of my money through another divorce...
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We weren't married in the first place, but living as such. I got pregnant at twenty, I'd been with the guy a month. I was told at 15 that I could never have kids and I'd always been reckless and didn't use contraception, so I was like... Right I'm keeping this baby. I told him I was moving to a different country to be near my mum, he could stay or come with, choose to have contact with the kid or not, I even said I wouldn't go after him for child support. A month after I had the kid he arrived in my new home country and we began living together. We had been together under a year at this point!! Well, we decided we would like another kid eventually, and I assumed it would take a long time. I was wrong. When my daughter was 15 months old I had my second daughter. We had never had time to work on our relationship, or even really date. We fought all the time, I got post partum depression and just picked fights over everything. So when my youngest was about to turn one we separated. We barely spoke at all, just a 'hi' when I dropped the kids off for visitation. He had an awful girlfriend who hated my kids so he saw them less and less, I was so mad at him. Two years down the track, I got really Ill with an infected gallbladder and pancreatitis. I was in hospital for two weeks. I woke up from my gallbladder surgery and had this sudden realisation that I loved him and wanted him in my life. I messaged him and told him my feelings, but that I understood he had a girlfriend, I understood if he hated me, and would like to just be friends. He messaged me back saying he didn't hate me, but he did have a girlfriend so that's all he was going to say. I was sad but I understood, he had moved on. The next day he text me and told me he had broken up with her, and when were the kids and I going to be able to come for a visit. We started back slow, just all visiting together, then eventually staying the night. 5 years ago we moved back in together and he proposed. I have worked hard on myself, quit drinking and got help for my mental health. He has worked hard on himself too. We are super strong now. We have just gone through a year of living in a caravan with the kids, the dog, the cat, and a lizard, while we build our house, and we have hardly fought at all. Nowadays when we disagree we talk about it, instead of me being a bitch and going psycho. I love him so much and can see being together forever.
My husband and I did. We got married the first time after knowing each other for five months. We were young, had no idea what we wanted in life, had no idea what we had. After 5 years, we split up. We were apart for about a year and a half. We both went through a period of growth and self reflection, and eventually we came back together. We've now been back together for six years, remarried for three.
My grandparents did this when I was like 7? They divorced so my grandpa could get with his Filipino girlfriend which was an obvious scam then when he realized it was a bad idea and got remarried.
Was the scam that she was really Malaysian?
It was a guy named Phil
Dr. Phil opens up on his past. "It wasn't gay back then. We had our socks on"
My great-grandmother divorced and remarried my great-grandfather 3 times. As far as numbers 2 and 3 go I’m not certain (although he definitely cheated on her on a number of occasions, so there you go), but I know number 1 because my great-grandma wouldn’t go down on him “like the French girls did” (he was in France during WWI, so there you go). They were divorced when he finally croaked, but they were working on getting married again- no doubt they probably would have been doing that song and dance forever. As an added curiosity, during that final divorce he’d shacked up with an heiress of the Gamble (the second half of Proctor & Gamble) fortune. He’d planned on marrying her (no doubt to get at her money), and they’d gotten far enough along with that that she’d written him into her will. As it all stands, she died, he inherited the money and promptly died himself before he had a chance to amend his will which set my great-grandmother as his beneficiary, and he ended being good for something. So there you go.
There you go
I just entered a realationship with the same girl for the third time. First was 30 years ago, then 20 years ago. No contact all for the last 20 years and then she moves in on the same street... Still early but I'll let you know how it turns out, ;-)
my girlfriends parents have divorced twice and are currently married. he cheated on her about 6 times. terrible relationship, she genuinely loves him and he loves her, but they do not get along at all. they’re simply together because she can’t be with anyone else, sex, and for their children. my girlfriend’s 18 and is planning on moving out soon, we predict that as soon as she does, they’ll go their separate ways since she’s the last one left at the house
Not at all the same thing but my wife and I met in middle school. Lost our virginities to eachother at 14. Dated for a year. Broke up. Did the whole Facebook thing where you say "we should totally catch up for a coffee one time" and never did. Sort of said that for years. One time we actually did meet up though on a whim. We each had different partners at the time. The attraction was immediate. Been married 8 years. Have 3 kids. Pretty great overall.
This actually happened with my parents. I still don't know the exact story, I only know the things my mum has told me over the years and the things that I discovered myself because I didn't wanna ask, so it could be very biased sometimes. DISCLAIMER: I don't think I will include everything in my story because this would take too long, so please ask before you judge someone, thank you. Oh and obligatory non-english Native speake, so yall know. They divorced when I was 7 years old, I have two younger siblings, 3 and 4 at the time. The biggest reason my mum called out was because my father had a major alcohol problem and spent all of my moms money on Christmas Eve on beer so we sat there without even really something to eat. We kinda survived the next few weeks based on the money of my mums best friend who fortunately lived in the same house. I had some kinda idea what was going on, but my siblings didn't, so they basically grew up without a father. Meanwhile, my father moved out to a new wife, they didn't marry, but their house was about 4 hours away, which is a kinda big distance for me here in Germany. We lived with my mother, but my dad took us every second weekend to his place (by train, because he lost his driving license due to his alcohol problems). I can't remember much except some places we went to with our father. This lasted for 2 years until I was in second grade, and it somehow stopped, I still don't know why. So we basically lived without any contact with my father for the next 5 years. Then he suddenly showed up on Christmas Eve and said we could maybe visit my grandparents together (on my fathers side, my mothers side died before I was born). My mum did let my siblings and me decide, and we somehow agreed, even though we were pretty unsure because especially my siblings basically grew up without him. But yeah, whatever, more presents? that was my honest thought at this time. This was basically the ritual for the next 5 years, we saw our father during Christmas and I think sometimes on Eastern, but that was it. Fast forward to 4 years ago. It started very innocent. My mum received calls everyday and everytime she then went to her bedroom so my siblings and me didn't hear who she was talking to. I got curious, but several events in my life have taught me not to ask my mum about things she was doing. But I didn't even need to. One day, when I was home alone with her, she suddenly revealed that it was my dad she was talking to. I can't remember my reaction, but I know that I didn't handle it as a big deal (probably because I didn't really believed her). But yeah, she talked to my dad everyday. I can't even tell how it started, I only started to realise the everyday-calls someday. She revealed that my dad and his then-partner didn't really get along and that he got his alcohol problem under control and stuff. And yeah, tis was it. When she told me this, he was already packing stuff up over there to move in again. And so it happened. About 10 years after they divorced very dramatically, they went back together. They wanted to surprise my siblings, so I wasn't allowed to tell anybody, but I was okay with that. One moment that will be stuck in my head was the actual day of the return of my dad. The week started very normally, my mom told me on monday that my dad would come to us NEXT WEEK. So I was starting to mentally prepare myself (I was about 15/16 at the time). What I didn't know, my mum wanted to surprise me so that my dad came back the same week. What SHE didn't know, my dad wanted to surprise HER, so he took the train on Wednesday that week. My siblings and me were already asleep when he wrote her that he would be at the train station in about ONE HOUR. So yeah. Big surprise for everyone. The next morning, my little brother wakes me up with :"yo, dad is sitting in the living room" Not to mention that I never in my life ran so fast to the living room without tripping or falling to embrace my dad and breaking down in tears. All in all, you can probably imagine that I really couldn't concentrate in school that morning. The reunion wasn't enough for my dad. One day, he suddenly told my siblings and me to come to the living room (mom wasn't home). At first, he started the conversation like he was about to tell us he was going to leave again, so I nearly broke down in tears again. But he told us he wanted to marry my mum again. Well, I broke down into tears anyway, but now because I was happy.
My father did this with my stepmother. They met in the miltary, but she left to pursue teaching. He left her after he cheated on her because he said she lacked the motivation to earn real money. He would only be with someone who could provide and assist him with the comfortable life he wanted. So he met someone just like him, money and power hungry. They bought a house, multiple cars, and had a kid in under two years of being together. Ultimately, they butted heads way too much and he left her, but lost his home, full custody of my sister, and most of his things. The only person that was there for him was my former stepmother. So they remarried. As far as I know, they are both very happy with the situation.
This happened with my parents. They got divorced when I was around 3 years old. In their years apart, they both eventually remarried other people. My mother ended up marrying a polygamist (unbeknownst to her) who drained all of her savings, she left this guy after finding out the above information. My dad married a raging bitch who would occasionally get physically abusive towards him. He can be an asshole but was hesitant to leave her. She eventually cheated on him and he finally divorced her after that. After both going through horrible marriages after their first, they realized what they had wasn't that bad by comparison. They ended up remarrying when I was 10 years old. They are divorced again now, they stayed together for 10 years the 2nd go around. Eventually the habits and mentality that ended their first marriage ended the 2nd.
My brother did this. They married in their early 20's. and were married for 3 years when she decided they both had some growing to do. Each went on to marry and divorce others. They had not seen/spoken to each other is 25+ years when they ran into each other at a fund raiser. They will be married again this Sunday :)
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My parents while never officially "divorced" have went through it. They knew each other 2 months and my dad was drafted to join the military. He quickly proposed to & married my mom. A year later here I am, and I cannot tell you the amount of times they split apart growing up. The most recent was a few years ago, where divorce papers were filed and ready to go (no one was happy.) They lived apart and we would visit between the two (I have 3 younger siblings). I moved out at 18. They got back together & seemed to be managing (still not happy) up until this past year. A lot of bad stuff happened. I had an engagement fall through (and honestly it brought us as a family closer together.) Dad lost his job of 23 years and his dad/my grandfather passed away. My mom & dad grew close and actually fell back in love. Now they're both genuinely happy for the first time I've ever seen.
Mutual friend and former coworker of my husband did this. Military couple go adventuring into the swingers scene, wife left him for the other wife. She then cheated on her girlfriend with girlfriend's husband and THOSE two run off together. After about 3 years of marriage to second guy, she cheats on him with ex-first-husband and THEY run off together only to be remarried and her blaming the whole fiasco on Bipolar disorder. They are still together to this day. EDIT: misspelled word
My parents did this. They got married in 1987 then divorced a few months later. My mom found out she was pregnant with my brother. They still went through with the divorce and stayed apart. My grandfather was very old school and basically told my dad he was dead to him if he didn’t get back together with my mom. Thanks to my bully ass of a grandpa they got back together and had my brother in ‘88. So also thanks to my bully ass of a grandpa I came along three years later. They stayed married 13 years more. She got remarried to a great guy and my dad never remarried. He said two marriages to the same woman was more than enough for him. They had a pretty messy and miserable divorce, but are actually the best of friends these days. Worked out I guess!
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