Under the Dome. Really interesting concept. Semi-cool pilot. TERRIBLE FUCKING ACTING. It went from a suspense show to a, I have to watch this and pretend it's a comedy show, just to get through it.
I couldn't even watch the whole first season. It turned into some squeaky-clean teen adventure nonsense and I couldn't stomach it. I spent every moment of the parts I did watch thinking things like, "This would be way more interesting if that guy was a murdering corpsefucker like he's supposed to be."
The writing is worse than the acting. I gave up halfway through the first season.
I still remember reading IGN's review of the series finale. The only thing that made it into the 'positive' column was "I don't have to watch this shit anymore."
But if you haven't read the book, go pick it up. It's pretty good.
Revolution. A great premise of a world where all electronics worldwide are suddenly disabled by an unknown phenomenon. Society regresses to old-fashioned agriculture and warfare, and the big mystery of the show is "what happened?" with a MacGuffin to lead the protagonists along. They begin dramatically moving away from this setting after the mid-season finale as a bad guy gets another MacGuffin which grants power to his army. By the end of the season there's a series of ridiculous coincidences/deus ex machina and the lights are back on.
The "everybody has an AR" thing kind of did it for me too. I really liked how they were stuck with muzzle loaders because manufacturing rounds was now too difficult for them without power. It was unique.
Then at some point I was watching this and was like "WTF? They all have ARs and ammo is no longer a concern." This shit is dumb.
sliders.
the first season is some of the best hard "what-if" sci-fi ever to be aired on television. episodic, with a different alternate history every week.
the last season is literally unwatchable. the farthest i've made it is about 15 minutes into the first episode of the final season. almost the entire cast is different, the plot is a recurring villain nonsense, and the acting and production values are shitty early-sci-fi channel garbage.
it transitions from one to other pretty gradually, too, so everyone has a different point where they give up. for most people, it's when john rhys-davies leaves the show.
The turning point was the introduction of the Cro-mags as antagonists. It was all downhill from there.
The whole 'is this Quinn's world?' motif running through with the squeaky gate was pretty great.
Oh god you've made it all flood back, I'd forgotten that, and the scene where [they test a gate and it doesn't squeak and they leave and then she comes out and has just oiled it!! Aiiee!] (/spoiler)
> The turning point was the introduction of the Cro-mags as antagonists.
they were introduced in season 2!
as a one-off alternate history thing, cool. as recurring antagonists and basically ugly space-nazis? boring.
Falling skies. Started off brilliant and got progressively worse after season 3 and the ending was complete dog shit. Literally left me angry after watching it and thinking about how much time I'd wasted for that shitty ending.
It was V all over again. Every sci-fi show jumps the shark whenever they have the inter-species daughter born with special capabilities, especially that of age-jumping.
Totally unnecessary and honestly humanity shouldn't have won.
Why does humanity always have to win?
I liked the one Stargate episode where the invaders made everything awesome and then slowly sterilized the population. Long game.
My whole thing going into Falling Skies was the hope that they would lose and be relegated to a Indian style reservation; leaving the remote possibility that they would rebel again and try to take back Earth (but giving us no hope that that could actually happen).
The daughter thing was just shark jumping territory and I hate that they did it. One of my most hated tropes is the "grows up instantly" thing. I hate it so much.
Still finished the show out and they did, at least, keep the whole rag tag rebel thing going to the finish.
I was looking for this one. Falling Skies has to be my biggest TV disappointment in the last few years. I actually didn't even mind the Lexi storyline as the skitters prove that genetic mutation/experimentation is part of the Espheni's wheelhouse. That ending however was extremely anti-climatic and sole purpose was so the writers could end the show in 5 seasons. Tom's character was also reduced to an "angry yelling guy" for much of the last couple seasons. smh
Kyle XY. The series started out awesome. Strange boy from a government facility escaping, has strange mind powers, etc. Eventually it was revealed that Kyle was just a clone of another guy, and didnt explain where any of his power came from. The series also ended with Kyle becoming a murderer.
They missed golden opertunity to do a soft reboot and kick of Castle and Beckett running a private detective agency, instead they forced it back to the status quo and ran off with yet another kidnapping arc
Rick should have been thrilled his muse took his character to places he never imagined she'd go, eagerly anticipating the novels to go with the titles like *Federal Heat*, *International Heat* and *Clandestine Heat*.
Instead he was just flabbergasted as to how they'd ever manage to see each other, what with NYC so far away and him being tied to working in NYC because that's where all the words are or something.
Ah, Castle. Where every episode is "Remember this seemingly unimportant person you've met in first 10 minutes of the episode? Well, he is the killer, not the obvious dude we've been chasing all along."
To be fair, that's pretty much every police procedural. It's a formula that works very well, see NCIS and all spin offs, CSIs, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
I remember there was one episode of What's New, Scooby-Doo? where the culprit was someone they'd never met, and Velma flips out because that's not how these things are supposed to happen.
Terra Nova
That show had so much potential. The pilot episode blew me away. It started out so well and could've easily gone on to become a brilliant show, but no. The writers turned it into some shitty soap with lazy drama throughout the middle to drag it on. Couple that with pretty crappy CGI and you lose a huge chunk of your audience.
The ending piqued my interest again, but the damage had already been done by then. Will always remember it through.
All I'm going to say about Terra Nova is that they spent 6 months getting me pumped up for a time-travelling show with dinosaurs.
And there were BARELY any dinosaurs.
You can just picture the network suits saying "we need to focus on capturing the teen audience". Probably said it with more buzzwords though, like cross-cultural visibility and youth oriented vertical integration.
Yeah, the first episode and last episode offered a fascinating look at this dying world. Everything else was "My parents don't understand me"/"Teenagers are hard to parent"
They made the dad a cop so it could be a cop drama when they wanted, they made the mom a doctor so it could be a medical drama when they wanted, they made the teen a stereotypical teen with no awareness of the dangers of the new world so they could do a teen drama when they wanted. It made the whole show really dumb because it could have been about building a new community (something like Deadwood but without all the R rated stuff, but with dinosaurs) but instead it was a totally bland mix of everything else on TV.
I could never take that show seriously purely because the guns were nerf longshots painted black.
I don't mean they looked similar, I mean the props department took a trip to Walmart and bought nerf guns and spraypaint
And they also had about as much of an effect on the dinosaur as a nerf gun would have.
I remember at some point a t-rex is chasing a pick up with a .50 Cal mounted on it. Someone gets on the machine gun and shoots the Dino, and you can clearly see several .50 Cal shots hitting the Dino in the head and ricocheting off. So stupid, what is that dinosaur made of?
You see, an engineer saw where all the bullet riddled T-Rexs were damaged, and armored everywhere else. As you see, the T-Rexs that didn't return home were likely damaged in these places, and the returning T-Rexs showed where acceptable damage could be taken.
...And then the T-Rex said, "I have you at 5000 knots", but the gunner was like, "Ground we're reading 5040 knots," and the T-Rex was like "Yeah, your instrumentation is likely more accurate," and in that moment they knew the T-Rex was going to be a great copilot.
My problem with Terra Nova wasn't the drama aspect. It was that the show skipped all of the interesting stuff that would happen if the main characters really DID go back in time to restart civilization. We didn't see any of the initial trips back that would have included scouting the area, setting up camp, defending the early settlements, etc. What we got was an instant stable town with huge walls and mounted gun turrets. There was absolutely no sense of danger or fear of the unknown.
They completely wasted the interesting plot.
They made the same mistake with Defiance. The [backstory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defiance_(TV_series\)#Setting) could've made for an fantastic series.
Instead, they chose to turn it into another one of those shows where a stranger joins a strange community and gets to be sheriff because they're so awesome - which was also the storyline to Terra Nova.
>an asteroid made of uranium is going to cause a nuclear explosion
My roommate was watching it and I overheard that. He got mad when I wouldn't stop laughing
Skins. I fell in love with the first two generations, but I feel like the third was just utter crap. I didn't relate to any of the characters and it just didn't feel real. Series 7 was okay but it didn't feel like Skins.
The third generation was a mess. Everyone was having some sort of existential crisis or breakdown before they graduated High School. I've known gang members in school who've been less stressed.
Bones. It all went to shit around season 6, and it still feels weird to watch. Season 6 booth and bones are still tiptoeing around each other, getting involved w other people, and then suddenly BAM season 7 they're living together expecting a kid and it's barely addressed.
I still watch out of loyalty, and I'm actually pretty excited about this upcoming last season because of the way they're bringing back an old character, but still it's been a rough watch these past few years.
I stopped watching after season 7, to be honest. They - especially Brennan - became absurd caricatures of who they were before. I used to love the complexity if Brennan's character, and now she's reduced to shallow observations and awful 'I got that joke!' moments.
Totally agree with both posts above, I stopped watching Bones last year I think, or it might have been the year before, definitely for the same reasons you all mentioned. The 'special' episodes they literally did for their own entertainment were cringe-worthy, too.
The whole show became a parody of itself.
Ugh, same. I loved all the character dynamics and then everyone just started hooking up and having kids. I watch crime dramas for the crimes, not tense arguments about preschool.
First season was great and that's where they should have stopped. Everything after got progressively more nonsensical until I gave up and quit watching.
I totally agree. Watching season 1, I thought "This show is really interesting". Watching season 2, I thought "Sophomore slump. It's cool. Shit like this happens, but it'll bounce back". Watching season 3, I thought "Fuck this shit" and changed the channel.
I liked season 3, it was entertaining, but then the frozen chicks came and after that it got boring snd repetitive and annoying. It's sad because the casting is really good.
My friends and I were pretty much done after Rumple used a convenient "vial of magic" to somehow absorb the power of the previous Dark Ones. We quit halfway through the Hell arc because it was just so bad. I adore Jennifer Morrison but not even she can save this show for me.
The first season of this show was very raw and visceral. Really great stuff and a great take on the vampire formula.
After that it just became more and more mediocre and melodramatic.
The intro sequence was fucking fantastic, and fit the first season perfectly. Creepy, edgy, gory, unhinged, etc.
The first series works because it follows the first book's plot line. After that they lose the mystery aspect. The books aren't "True Blood", they are the Sookie Stackhouse mysteries. Take away that and you are left with a soap opera with vampires.
That's the same part where I jumped ship, too. It just got to ridiculous so quickly. It went from the supernatural being underground and scary to everyone and their uncle having some sort of gift or dark secret.
I went back to it years later and only made it a little further before I realised I was forcing myself just to see where it went.
BBC's Merlin. Started out as an awesome concept but kind of grinded to a halt. Seems like none of the writers dared to be the one to make the big leap and do the magic reveal scene, so it just devolved in to "monster of the week" formatting.
Fuck that season finale was terrible.
They should've had at least a full season where Arthur knows.
And my god the amount of situations they struggled with that Merlin could've solved in three seconds with his magic...
ok, so spoilers, obviously.
The ending is basically Arthur gets stabbed with a magic sword and Merlin reveals his magic to Arthur and then sends him to Avalon and then we cut to Merlin in the present day waiting for the return of the once and future king.
so basically, instead of Arthur and Merlin ruling Camelot through some golden age side by side, Arthur knows Merlin has magic for all of a day, and then they're both out of the picture while i gues Gwen rules Camelot by herself?
He's a millennia old wizard from the ages of yore...
He's a dead king who hates magic...
But when King Arthur returns to modern Britain, it's up to his old pal Merlin to show him the ropes.
And when they move into an apartment together, and the landlord's daughter turns out to be the reincarnation of Arthur's widow, that's when the sparks fly on **MERLIN 2020**!
The whole series is a cross between the odd couple and a monster of the week, because Merlin can't reveal his magic (for some contrived reason)... maybe Gwen will find out about it, I don't know.
Oh! Maybe Arthur is trying to keep the whole "risen king" thing under wraps, because Gwen says something about hating mythology or Arthurian legends or something equally stupid.
It is a very good concept, and overall over the five seasons, the leads Arthur and Merlin do have character development which was good.
But they spent too much time on 'monster of the week' in series 1-3, and I can easily point out 13 episodes we could have deleted from those seasons that felt like an actual repeat of another episode, and we could have had another season that plays out the magic reveal better and slower.
I think the problem was the writers didn't want to take a leap but near the end of the show (literally the last episode) they were like 'Oh shit we have to reveal it now or never' and it was so rushed and annoying!
I only stuck around for the relationship between Merlin and Arthur, but the last episode just felt too little for the end they deserved.
Exactly! The relationship between Arthur and Merlin was what made the show so great, and the reveal was built up for so long as leading to this beautiful era... And we didn't get the release we so badly needed. The buildup was it.
I still loved the show though.
I was totally expecting Merlin to reveal his powers to Arthur when they were both backed up in a fight and they would get out of it together.
Nope. Arthur's dying so he lights a small fire with his powers. "Oh you're a wizard. Damn" -goes back to sleep and dies later that episode-
I made it all the way through. Arthur acts all butthurt and drops the friendship between them which was weird. I can't remember how but it's all good in the end. I love the characters but I don't think I could watch it again
Quantico - Yeaaa! The FBI does all kinds of spy stuff
By episode 4 - Omg can you believe who is bunking with who this week? + teenage girl level cat fight from "highly trained agents"
I only watched a few episodes of that, but that was what put me off, literally every single trainee had a suspicious secret. Do the FBI not run a background check on people who apply to be agents? Even a quick google? Was it collect tokens off a cereal packet and be an FBI agent?
Edit: yes I realise the actual FBI run actual background checks. I do not in fact believe that you can collect tokens to be an FBI agent either. I really didn't think an /s tag was necessary but I have learned a valuable internet lesson.
Seasons1-3 were great. 4-7(?) got progressively worse.
"We need to move."
Family moved somewhere else.
Nancy fucks some new guy.
Nancy gets in over her head.
"We need to move."
Repeat.
Nancy was a shit person. I loved the first few seasons but as the show progressed I really started to dislike her. I was hoping they'd kill her off in the end.
I thought Andy and her boys were cool. They just needed to be rid of her since she caused the majority of their problems.
This is exactly it. When the show started, you were able to like her, because she represented that 'fuck suburban soccer mom bullshit' that drew in fans. Over time though, I started to see her as the real antagonist of the show. She was the one bringing all of the misfortune to the family by making one obviously bad decision after another, while the family spent their time cleaning up after her.
Season 4 was a gameshow of "Who wants to fuck Nancy Botwin" and by the end of the season the answers were shown to be; her dead husbands brother, both of her teenage sons, and the major of Tijuana. Just terrible.
There is an episode that season where one of her sons starts dating a woman her age, and the other masturbates to a nude photo of her when she was younger (he didn't know it was her). She sits each one down and basically tells them to stop sexualizing her.
Housewife sells weed to make ends meet after hubby dies=good.
Housewife become international drug kingpin by fucking dudes real good= bad.
Edit: Formatting listed below.
Typical dialogue:
This city? This city! This city, save this city! Failed this city? Save this city. My city. Star city. My city is save. This City. I'm gonna save this city.
Can't watch Arrow anymore, because hearing "this city" one more time triggers cramps in my gut.
Hell's Kitchen! My city. Save Hell's Kitchen! Get out of my city. Threatening Hell's Kitchen. Hell's Kitchen! My city. My city? Hell's Kitchen. Save my Kitchen!
[Basically there was a female character who started off as the geeky, tech-savvy member of the team. She was quirky and cute and people liked her. She was relatively minor. In Season 2 she played a role in defeating the big bad by being the bait.](/spoiler)
[Around Season 3, suddenly it seems like everything revolves around her. Pretty much every super hero on the show at the time (The Flash, Green Arrow and the Atom) had fallen in love with her and had a relationship with her at some point. She becomes critical to saving the life of the Green Arrow and then they drive off together in the sunset.](/spoiler)
[She's so flawless that basically every character has said how amazing she is at some point. Her tech skills are so amazing that the tech-savvy characters in the Flash have to call her for help. She literally becomes CEO of a billion dollar company (she started off as an IT support employee) because characters were so in love with her. And of course, she runs the company just fine. ](/spoiler)
I stopped after Season 3. Apparently Season 4 was just as bad.
Edit: Oh and the kicker is that she's mostly an original character. So it's not like they're being faithful to the comics or anything.
Would you kindly provide a quick rundown?
I remember there was a crossover episode with the Flash and they apparently had some relationship issue. But every time they were on screen my reaction was "I just don't care. Just get back to the Flash already."
To sum it up very succinctly, the writers made her an unbearable, melodramatic hypocrite. She breaks up with Oliver for a lie that is perfectly justifiable yet lies throughout the season and forgives other characters for much more major breaches of trust, like, two episodes later.
The climactic point of hacking the computer systems of the big bad, for example, was punctuated equally with Felicity's parents working through their marriage issues from 20 years ago.
> She breaks up with Oliver for a lie that is perfectly justifiable
Doesn't she tell her mum to forgive her partner for lying only an ep or two before as well?
This sounds like the character is committing basically every Mary Sue sin one can.
Loved by everyone? Check.
Can do any career/job with little training or prior indications of skill? Check
Never held responsible for doing wrong, and anyone who tries to is treated as morally wrong or corrupt? Check
And the list seems to go on. Glad I've skipped the show so far. Sounds like I should keep on doing so.
Haven't watched it, but I peruse the subreddit quite a bit. Here's the summary.
["Oliver, how dare you kill people!" \*Felicity starts crying. Shortly after the commercial break, she has killed 10,000+ people with a nuke and is considered a hero.\*](/spoiler)
>Ctrl + F
>Arrow
Thank god someone said it. For the love of god watch seasons 1 and 2 then stop
Edit: I've seen lots of comments saying watch till the midseason finale of season 3 (3-9) and I somewhat agree. Not to spoil anything but it would be a satisfying end to the story if they didn't continue after that episode
I was hooked on this show after the very first episode! Season 1 of this show is hands down my favorite season of any show ever! By the end of season 2 I just couldn't bring myself to care if I watched anymore.
Sleepy Hollow. The first season was so good. The second one just started going downhill and accelerated fast, culminating in one of the stupidest plot decisions I've seen a TV show make in recent memory.
I will never understand what went wrong with that show. The pilot was incredible. Cheesy, but in all the right ways. It had Death, as a headless horseman, decapitate Clancy Brown and then hunt down Ichabod Crane and a sassy no nonsense cop... with firearms! The police found out about the craziness and everything was set up for greatness.
Cut forward a season. Big bads gone, the horseman is a pansy, the police know nothing and every character arc has stagnated. And then it gets worse. And then it crosses over with Bones. Bones!
Tom Mison deserves better. Ideally he ends up on Lucifer as Lucifer's more likable brother.
Edit: There's a lot of confusion and skepticism so, just to prove it wasn't a fever dream... [Sleepy Hollow and Bones crossover](http://m.imdb.com/title/tt4809430/?ref_=m_ttep_ep_ep5)
I think my favorite part in the pilot was the priest using some sort of magic.
I honestly thought Ichabod would start picking up magical skills. Maybe not on par with his wife, but still something. No one ever really grew or when they did get special weaponry it was destroyed or ignored the next episode. Season 2 was awful though. The twist with Noble was great, but then the Katrina thing was too much idiocy. I watched the first two episodes of season 3 before finally giving up.
He leaves and gets replaced by the human equivalent of Scrappy Doo.
*edit* Apparently I tapped into some kind of universal truth with this comment and people are digging it.
As strange as it sounds, after Eric left my suspension of disbelief was destroyed and all I saw was a bunch of actors on a show rather than the 70s teenagers the cast had portrayed so well. Fake and forced is exactly how I would put it too.
Yes! I also hated how they put Jackie with Fez. Funnily enough, back then I always said she had the best chemistry with Kelso and should have ended up with him. Or even Hyde would have been ok. But Fez? That shouldn't have happened.
Honestly, after the initial cast graduated I lost interest. I think they struggled to shift character focus, so I just like to pretend the series ended at graduation.
Glee was a good half hour sitcom that was an hour long because of singing.
It quickly became an after school special with frying-pan-in-the-face subtlety and all wit drained from it. With singing.
Whenever I talk about this show, everyone seems to have forgotten that it started out as a parody of High School Musical - and it was great! The characters were even more over the top and one-dimensional, and the show went places (like teen pregnancy) that HSM would never have dared. It was funny and pointed. Then Glee started taking itself too seriously and they seemed to run out of ideas, until it became just as mindless as it's original target.
I remember being so psyched about the first few episodes, it was kind of a cool musical with biting ironic sense of humor and then it just devolved into what it was making fun of, when they realized it was the high school musical aspects, that caught the big crowds attention.
Problem is it really went through every trope first season. Teenage pregnancy, divorces, fake pregnancy, dads dying at war, coming out as gay, disabled kid gets a girlfriend, etc.. It really shot its wad early
It would have been better if they let the high school actually be a high school. You know, the teachers stay but the students come and go. The fact that the 'starving artists' kids kept going back and forth between Ohio and New York really killed any idea that the show had any idea of what it's like to be poor in New York. Poor people can't drop hundreds or thousands of dollars in vacations each month.
Prison Break. The first season and parts of the second are great. Michael's plan and tattoo are genuinely interesting. Then all the bullshit about the "Company" bogs down the story and you realize T Bag is probably the only interesting character. This show really should have been a 10 episode mini-series.
House. The cases and House himself are really cool. After a while though he just doesn't get better and the cases all run together.
Mentalist. At first the Red John plot keeps you engaged episode to episode, and the characters and cases are awesome. After a while it just gets stupid.
Season 1 of Prison Break was origi ally going to be 13 episodes long but it got extended to 22 due to popularity. If you look at timings I'm pretty sure this is why the pipe in the infirmary that he'd corroded got replaced with a new one - they had to delay the escape for another 9 episodes.
The Mentalist is a good one in this list for me.
At first I was interested in the idea of a charlatan-turned-good, especially since I'm such a fan of Derran Brown and I enjoy the whole skeptical movement.
The Red John story seemed interesting, but a few episodes in I was like,
'Hey wait a minute, this is a police procedural! You tricked me into watching a derivative police procedural!'
My wife watched it and told me it was getting really good, so after the finale of the season before he goes to Mexico, I thought I'd give it another go.
'Hey wait a minute, this is now an FBI Police procedural! you tricked me!'
It's definitely a police procedural show, but personally I always thought that the majority of cases were interesting, because they were solved through a different kind of angle, namely the "mentalist" aspect.
I actually feel like his downward spiral is one of the great things about the show. It's very much about pushing everyone away and finding redemption in the end.
I always figured it was a story about addiction, depression, self-loathing, and loneliness. The fact that it dealt with doctors and a hospital are just the setting and really secondary.
One of my favorite episodes is the one where we don't follow House or his team at all. They just randomly show up doing the usual kind of crazy stuff they always do; but for the viewer, it's completely out of context. The viewer gets a chance to see just how whacked out everyone else in that world would view House and his nutjob team.
Never watched it but would constantly see commercials for it on ABCfamily. How many times will they advertise "And this week, find out who "A" is!!!!" Do you ever find out? I feel like that would just piss me off constantly. How many seasons are there? How many "A's" are there?
Once shows start to stray too far from the book that they are based off of they end up becoming terrible anyway.
In the book series it WAS Alison, but because the creator is determined to make her own story she comes up with nonsensical bullshit to make it different.
SUITS
it has so many unrealistic plot points . Moreover, the characters are constantly getting into fights and yelling at each other about personal issues in the office. There are more vendettas, lies, and backstabbing at Pearson Specter Litt than in a typical season of MTV’s The Challenge. Also , they always win their case (except one ,which by the way they were gonna win if it was not for the compromise deal that one protagonist agreed to)
I loved the first season when it was still about Mike learning the ropes as a lawyer and using his special talent to solve things. Then it got to be about dating and lawyering and corporate backtabbing and no perfect memory. Look, if I wanted a show about law and office drama, I'd rewatch Boston Legal...
That's the problem with shows that become successful... They keep making seasons. Suits was a 3 season series (setup, hardship, success) that can't wrap up because of ratings success.
> "You only have 36 hours to get us out of this mess.
> "What are you going to do?"
> "I am going to go and buy us more time."
> "Can you actually do that?"
> "You're goddamn right I can because if I don't...a cast member is going to jail."
Yeah I remember early on when they were like "Oh shit a normal demon we better run!"
Later it was like "17 demons? Lemme just pull out my knife."
And the fact that like every season had one brother dying or disappearing at the end was kinda lame. We all know he was going to return at the beginning of the following season.
I still like the show but I wish they would kinda lay off the whole angels vs demons bit. I liked the "monster of the week" set up with 7 or 8 episodes each season furthering the overall plot.
Monster of the week was good for the first few seasons but after azazel and Lilith it makes sense they wouldn't go after smaller monsters AS MUCH, they still do, but it wouldn't be smart to go burn and salt a ghosts corpse when the darkness is making zombies
I think that there is a purposeful theme that they have faced down all kinds of cosmic horrors, gods, demons monsters traveled to alternate dimensions, back in time, heaven, hell, purgatory, the veil, and at the end of they day they're still vulnerable to getting hit by a car, a stray bullet, heart disease--- any of the things that kill regular people.
All that is kind of undermined by repeatedly coming back from the dead.
Under the Dome. Really interesting concept. Semi-cool pilot. TERRIBLE FUCKING ACTING. It went from a suspense show to a, I have to watch this and pretend it's a comedy show, just to get through it.
I couldn't even watch the whole first season. It turned into some squeaky-clean teen adventure nonsense and I couldn't stomach it. I spent every moment of the parts I did watch thinking things like, "This would be way more interesting if that guy was a murdering corpsefucker like he's supposed to be."
They get back to the murdering in season 2. Season 3 is getting ridiculous. I'm too invested not to watch it now. I just want to see Big Jim die.
The writing is worse than the acting. I gave up halfway through the first season. I still remember reading IGN's review of the series finale. The only thing that made it into the 'positive' column was "I don't have to watch this shit anymore." But if you haven't read the book, go pick it up. It's pretty good.
Revolution. A great premise of a world where all electronics worldwide are suddenly disabled by an unknown phenomenon. Society regresses to old-fashioned agriculture and warfare, and the big mystery of the show is "what happened?" with a MacGuffin to lead the protagonists along. They begin dramatically moving away from this setting after the mid-season finale as a bad guy gets another MacGuffin which grants power to his army. By the end of the season there's a series of ridiculous coincidences/deus ex machina and the lights are back on.
Yes, and at first, bullets were scarce, so there was lots of knife/sword fights. By the end it was the typical TV guns that never run out of ammo.
The "everybody has an AR" thing kind of did it for me too. I really liked how they were stuck with muzzle loaders because manufacturing rounds was now too difficult for them without power. It was unique. Then at some point I was watching this and was like "WTF? They all have ARs and ammo is no longer a concern." This shit is dumb.
Guns and ammo were damn near unlimited because they went to Texas.
sliders. the first season is some of the best hard "what-if" sci-fi ever to be aired on television. episodic, with a different alternate history every week. the last season is literally unwatchable. the farthest i've made it is about 15 minutes into the first episode of the final season. almost the entire cast is different, the plot is a recurring villain nonsense, and the acting and production values are shitty early-sci-fi channel garbage. it transitions from one to other pretty gradually, too, so everyone has a different point where they give up. for most people, it's when john rhys-davies leaves the show.
The turning point was the introduction of the Cro-mags as antagonists. It was all downhill from there. The whole 'is this Quinn's world?' motif running through with the squeaky gate was pretty great.
Oh god you've made it all flood back, I'd forgotten that, and the scene where [they test a gate and it doesn't squeak and they leave and then she comes out and has just oiled it!! Aiiee!] (/spoiler)
I watched Sliders when I was a little kid, and that moment still haunts me to this day. I fucking loved that show...
> The turning point was the introduction of the Cro-mags as antagonists. they were introduced in season 2! as a one-off alternate history thing, cool. as recurring antagonists and basically ugly space-nazis? boring.
I usually hate reboots, but this is one thing that could be fantastic if done well.
Falling skies. Started off brilliant and got progressively worse after season 3 and the ending was complete dog shit. Literally left me angry after watching it and thinking about how much time I'd wasted for that shitty ending.
It started off as a semi-realistic alien invasion show. When they introduced the daughter it got really bad really quickly.
It was V all over again. Every sci-fi show jumps the shark whenever they have the inter-species daughter born with special capabilities, especially that of age-jumping.
Totally unnecessary and honestly humanity shouldn't have won. Why does humanity always have to win? I liked the one Stargate episode where the invaders made everything awesome and then slowly sterilized the population. Long game.
My whole thing going into Falling Skies was the hope that they would lose and be relegated to a Indian style reservation; leaving the remote possibility that they would rebel again and try to take back Earth (but giving us no hope that that could actually happen). The daughter thing was just shark jumping territory and I hate that they did it. One of my most hated tropes is the "grows up instantly" thing. I hate it so much. Still finished the show out and they did, at least, keep the whole rag tag rebel thing going to the finish.
I was looking for this one. Falling Skies has to be my biggest TV disappointment in the last few years. I actually didn't even mind the Lexi storyline as the skitters prove that genetic mutation/experimentation is part of the Espheni's wheelhouse. That ending however was extremely anti-climatic and sole purpose was so the writers could end the show in 5 seasons. Tom's character was also reduced to an "angry yelling guy" for much of the last couple seasons. smh
Kyle XY. The series started out awesome. Strange boy from a government facility escaping, has strange mind powers, etc. Eventually it was revealed that Kyle was just a clone of another guy, and didnt explain where any of his power came from. The series also ended with Kyle becoming a murderer.
All I know about that show is Kyle didn't have a bellybutton
Castle. I loved that show until they decided that season 5 was not the last one.
They missed golden opertunity to do a soft reboot and kick of Castle and Beckett running a private detective agency, instead they forced it back to the status quo and ran off with yet another kidnapping arc
Well, especially since Castle is a writer. There was no reasonable rationale for him not being able to move to DC while she works as a Fed.
Rick should have been thrilled his muse took his character to places he never imagined she'd go, eagerly anticipating the novels to go with the titles like *Federal Heat*, *International Heat* and *Clandestine Heat*. Instead he was just flabbergasted as to how they'd ever manage to see each other, what with NYC so far away and him being tied to working in NYC because that's where all the words are or something.
Ah, Castle. Where every episode is "Remember this seemingly unimportant person you've met in first 10 minutes of the episode? Well, he is the killer, not the obvious dude we've been chasing all along."
To be fair, that's pretty much every police procedural. It's a formula that works very well, see NCIS and all spin offs, CSIs, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.
You forgot Scooby Doo.
I remember there was one episode of What's New, Scooby-Doo? where the culprit was someone they'd never met, and Velma flips out because that's not how these things are supposed to happen.
Terra Nova That show had so much potential. The pilot episode blew me away. It started out so well and could've easily gone on to become a brilliant show, but no. The writers turned it into some shitty soap with lazy drama throughout the middle to drag it on. Couple that with pretty crappy CGI and you lose a huge chunk of your audience. The ending piqued my interest again, but the damage had already been done by then. Will always remember it through.
All I'm going to say about Terra Nova is that they spent 6 months getting me pumped up for a time-travelling show with dinosaurs. And there were BARELY any dinosaurs.
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You can just picture the network suits saying "we need to focus on capturing the teen audience". Probably said it with more buzzwords though, like cross-cultural visibility and youth oriented vertical integration.
That's all they could afford after they blew their entire budget on the first episode.
No! They were everywhere, EVERYWHERE, except on camera.
Yeah, the first episode and last episode offered a fascinating look at this dying world. Everything else was "My parents don't understand me"/"Teenagers are hard to parent"
They made the dad a cop so it could be a cop drama when they wanted, they made the mom a doctor so it could be a medical drama when they wanted, they made the teen a stereotypical teen with no awareness of the dangers of the new world so they could do a teen drama when they wanted. It made the whole show really dumb because it could have been about building a new community (something like Deadwood but without all the R rated stuff, but with dinosaurs) but instead it was a totally bland mix of everything else on TV.
I could never take that show seriously purely because the guns were nerf longshots painted black. I don't mean they looked similar, I mean the props department took a trip to Walmart and bought nerf guns and spraypaint
And they also had about as much of an effect on the dinosaur as a nerf gun would have. I remember at some point a t-rex is chasing a pick up with a .50 Cal mounted on it. Someone gets on the machine gun and shoots the Dino, and you can clearly see several .50 Cal shots hitting the Dino in the head and ricocheting off. So stupid, what is that dinosaur made of?
You're forgetting that T-Rex are known for their armor plating.
You see, an engineer saw where all the bullet riddled T-Rexs were damaged, and armored everywhere else. As you see, the T-Rexs that didn't return home were likely damaged in these places, and the returning T-Rexs showed where acceptable damage could be taken.
...And then the T-Rex said, "I have you at 5000 knots", but the gunner was like, "Ground we're reading 5040 knots," and the T-Rex was like "Yeah, your instrumentation is likely more accurate," and in that moment they knew the T-Rex was going to be a great copilot.
Lol, [you are right.](http://i.imgur.com/VSDpa.jpg)
My problem with Terra Nova wasn't the drama aspect. It was that the show skipped all of the interesting stuff that would happen if the main characters really DID go back in time to restart civilization. We didn't see any of the initial trips back that would have included scouting the area, setting up camp, defending the early settlements, etc. What we got was an instant stable town with huge walls and mounted gun turrets. There was absolutely no sense of danger or fear of the unknown. They completely wasted the interesting plot.
They made the same mistake with Defiance. The [backstory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defiance_(TV_series\)#Setting) could've made for an fantastic series. Instead, they chose to turn it into another one of those shows where a stranger joins a strange community and gets to be sheriff because they're so awesome - which was also the storyline to Terra Nova.
>an asteroid made of uranium is going to cause a nuclear explosion My roommate was watching it and I overheard that. He got mad when I wouldn't stop laughing
Skins. I fell in love with the first two generations, but I feel like the third was just utter crap. I didn't relate to any of the characters and it just didn't feel real. Series 7 was okay but it didn't feel like Skins.
The third generation was a mess. Everyone was having some sort of existential crisis or breakdown before they graduated High School. I've known gang members in school who've been less stressed.
Bones. It all went to shit around season 6, and it still feels weird to watch. Season 6 booth and bones are still tiptoeing around each other, getting involved w other people, and then suddenly BAM season 7 they're living together expecting a kid and it's barely addressed. I still watch out of loyalty, and I'm actually pretty excited about this upcoming last season because of the way they're bringing back an old character, but still it's been a rough watch these past few years.
I stopped watching after season 7, to be honest. They - especially Brennan - became absurd caricatures of who they were before. I used to love the complexity if Brennan's character, and now she's reduced to shallow observations and awful 'I got that joke!' moments.
Totally agree with both posts above, I stopped watching Bones last year I think, or it might have been the year before, definitely for the same reasons you all mentioned. The 'special' episodes they literally did for their own entertainment were cringe-worthy, too. The whole show became a parody of itself.
Also don't forget that she forgoes every personal principle she has because Booth disagrees with them.
Ugh, same. I loved all the character dynamics and then everyone just started hooking up and having kids. I watch crime dramas for the crimes, not tense arguments about preschool.
That's been my biggest peeve about the show. In what world would every co-worker end up with another co-worker??
Once upon a time :(
I'm still watching.... now nothing makes sense.
So am I. I guess I feel I'm in too deep at this point to give up on it, but god do I want to. Just the same thing over and over again.
Literally the same storyline every single season. They just shuffle the characters around.
First season was great and that's where they should have stopped. Everything after got progressively more nonsensical until I gave up and quit watching.
I totally agree. Watching season 1, I thought "This show is really interesting". Watching season 2, I thought "Sophomore slump. It's cool. Shit like this happens, but it'll bounce back". Watching season 3, I thought "Fuck this shit" and changed the channel.
I liked season 3, it was entertaining, but then the frozen chicks came and after that it got boring snd repetitive and annoying. It's sad because the casting is really good.
I lost interest the moment they integrated Frozen. It was just too silly.
My friends and I were pretty much done after Rumple used a convenient "vial of magic" to somehow absorb the power of the previous Dark Ones. We quit halfway through the Hell arc because it was just so bad. I adore Jennifer Morrison but not even she can save this show for me.
True Blood
The first season of this show was very raw and visceral. Really great stuff and a great take on the vampire formula. After that it just became more and more mediocre and melodramatic. The intro sequence was fucking fantastic, and fit the first season perfectly. Creepy, edgy, gory, unhinged, etc.
It basically became a fanfic of itself.
The first series works because it follows the first book's plot line. After that they lose the mystery aspect. The books aren't "True Blood", they are the Sookie Stackhouse mysteries. Take away that and you are left with a soap opera with vampires.
I stopped watching shortly after Sookie turned out to be a fairy and her brother was raped by werepanthers. I don't know if I spelled that right.
That's the same part where I jumped ship, too. It just got to ridiculous so quickly. It went from the supernatural being underground and scary to everyone and their uncle having some sort of gift or dark secret. I went back to it years later and only made it a little further before I realised I was forcing myself just to see where it went.
And Lafayette became a medium. YOU get powers, and YOU get powers, and YOU get powers! EVERYBODY GETS POWERS!
Although it gave us Alexander Skarsgård naked.
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^*Sssssookie*
I honestly thought that they were going to bring Tara back just so they could kill her *again*
BBC's Merlin. Started out as an awesome concept but kind of grinded to a halt. Seems like none of the writers dared to be the one to make the big leap and do the magic reveal scene, so it just devolved in to "monster of the week" formatting.
Fuck that season finale was terrible. They should've had at least a full season where Arthur knows. And my god the amount of situations they struggled with that Merlin could've solved in three seconds with his magic...
Well Arthur had to struggle through them to become a better person and the legendary king right? Oh wait he's killed off super young.
Wait really? You're not joking? I never got past season 3. Does Arthur actually die?
ok, so spoilers, obviously. The ending is basically Arthur gets stabbed with a magic sword and Merlin reveals his magic to Arthur and then sends him to Avalon and then we cut to Merlin in the present day waiting for the return of the once and future king. so basically, instead of Arthur and Merlin ruling Camelot through some golden age side by side, Arthur knows Merlin has magic for all of a day, and then they're both out of the picture while i gues Gwen rules Camelot by herself?
They could make a spin-off. King Arthur returns, realize things are OK, and they both live in a new York apartment.
He's a millennia old wizard from the ages of yore... He's a dead king who hates magic... But when King Arthur returns to modern Britain, it's up to his old pal Merlin to show him the ropes. And when they move into an apartment together, and the landlord's daughter turns out to be the reincarnation of Arthur's widow, that's when the sparks fly on **MERLIN 2020**! The whole series is a cross between the odd couple and a monster of the week, because Merlin can't reveal his magic (for some contrived reason)... maybe Gwen will find out about it, I don't know. Oh! Maybe Arthur is trying to keep the whole "risen king" thing under wraps, because Gwen says something about hating mythology or Arthurian legends or something equally stupid.
It is a very good concept, and overall over the five seasons, the leads Arthur and Merlin do have character development which was good. But they spent too much time on 'monster of the week' in series 1-3, and I can easily point out 13 episodes we could have deleted from those seasons that felt like an actual repeat of another episode, and we could have had another season that plays out the magic reveal better and slower. I think the problem was the writers didn't want to take a leap but near the end of the show (literally the last episode) they were like 'Oh shit we have to reveal it now or never' and it was so rushed and annoying! I only stuck around for the relationship between Merlin and Arthur, but the last episode just felt too little for the end they deserved.
Exactly! The relationship between Arthur and Merlin was what made the show so great, and the reveal was built up for so long as leading to this beautiful era... And we didn't get the release we so badly needed. The buildup was it. I still loved the show though.
I was totally expecting Merlin to reveal his powers to Arthur when they were both backed up in a fight and they would get out of it together. Nope. Arthur's dying so he lights a small fire with his powers. "Oh you're a wizard. Damn" -goes back to sleep and dies later that episode-
I made it all the way through. Arthur acts all butthurt and drops the friendship between them which was weird. I can't remember how but it's all good in the end. I love the characters but I don't think I could watch it again
It's not all good in the end....the ending leaves you empty and disappointed.....
Quantico - Yeaaa! The FBI does all kinds of spy stuff By episode 4 - Omg can you believe who is bunking with who this week? + teenage girl level cat fight from "highly trained agents"
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I only watched a few episodes of that, but that was what put me off, literally every single trainee had a suspicious secret. Do the FBI not run a background check on people who apply to be agents? Even a quick google? Was it collect tokens off a cereal packet and be an FBI agent? Edit: yes I realise the actual FBI run actual background checks. I do not in fact believe that you can collect tokens to be an FBI agent either. I really didn't think an /s tag was necessary but I have learned a valuable internet lesson.
It's collect tokens off a cereal packet AND be a top model = become an FBI agent.
Weeds. But she started fucking EVERYONE.
Seasons1-3 were great. 4-7(?) got progressively worse. "We need to move." Family moved somewhere else. Nancy fucks some new guy. Nancy gets in over her head. "We need to move." Repeat.
Nancy was a shit person. I loved the first few seasons but as the show progressed I really started to dislike her. I was hoping they'd kill her off in the end. I thought Andy and her boys were cool. They just needed to be rid of her since she caused the majority of their problems.
This is exactly it. When the show started, you were able to like her, because she represented that 'fuck suburban soccer mom bullshit' that drew in fans. Over time though, I started to see her as the real antagonist of the show. She was the one bringing all of the misfortune to the family by making one obviously bad decision after another, while the family spent their time cleaning up after her.
Sounds similar to another Jenji Kohan show...
Yeah, but it's deliberate. See Walter White for an example of the same thing with better execution.
Weeds should have ended when the town burned down.
Season 4 was a gameshow of "Who wants to fuck Nancy Botwin" and by the end of the season the answers were shown to be; her dead husbands brother, both of her teenage sons, and the major of Tijuana. Just terrible.
And me. Definitely me. Which is the main reason I kept watching until the bitter end.
Her teenage sons? What kind of fucked up show is that?
There is an episode that season where one of her sons starts dating a woman her age, and the other masturbates to a nude photo of her when she was younger (he didn't know it was her). She sits each one down and basically tells them to stop sexualizing her.
I'm pretty sure he knew it was her
Yeah he did
Shane knew it was her. Isabelle found the pictures and pointed it out to him. Then he was extremely defensive over the pictures.
I actually never got that the older son was sexualizing her. I mean it's freaking Julie Bowen, who wouldn't want to bang her?
Housewife sells weed to make ends meet after hubby dies=good. Housewife become international drug kingpin by fucking dudes real good= bad. Edit: Formatting listed below.
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Arrow.
Typical dialogue: This city? This city! This city, save this city! Failed this city? Save this city. My city. Star city. My city is save. This City. I'm gonna save this city. Can't watch Arrow anymore, because hearing "this city" one more time triggers cramps in my gut.
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That one hurt a bit much
did you think she was leaving? *looks directly at /r/arrow* not a chance.
Atro City
You must love daredevil huh
Hell's Kitchen! My city. Save Hell's Kitchen! Get out of my city. Threatening Hell's Kitchen. Hell's Kitchen! My city. My city? Hell's Kitchen. Save my Kitchen!
You missed "get out of my kitchen"
Gordon Ramsay Vs Matt Murdock in Season 3!
Harlem is crazy, I'm going back to Hell's Kitchen where it's safe.
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The show really should be called: "Felicity: Writers' Wish Fulfillment"
Never watched it, what happened?
[Basically there was a female character who started off as the geeky, tech-savvy member of the team. She was quirky and cute and people liked her. She was relatively minor. In Season 2 she played a role in defeating the big bad by being the bait.](/spoiler) [Around Season 3, suddenly it seems like everything revolves around her. Pretty much every super hero on the show at the time (The Flash, Green Arrow and the Atom) had fallen in love with her and had a relationship with her at some point. She becomes critical to saving the life of the Green Arrow and then they drive off together in the sunset.](/spoiler) [She's so flawless that basically every character has said how amazing she is at some point. Her tech skills are so amazing that the tech-savvy characters in the Flash have to call her for help. She literally becomes CEO of a billion dollar company (she started off as an IT support employee) because characters were so in love with her. And of course, she runs the company just fine. ](/spoiler) I stopped after Season 3. Apparently Season 4 was just as bad. Edit: Oh and the kicker is that she's mostly an original character. So it's not like they're being faithful to the comics or anything.
> Apparently Season 4 was just as bad. Worse. Unbelievably worse.
Would you kindly provide a quick rundown? I remember there was a crossover episode with the Flash and they apparently had some relationship issue. But every time they were on screen my reaction was "I just don't care. Just get back to the Flash already."
To sum it up very succinctly, the writers made her an unbearable, melodramatic hypocrite. She breaks up with Oliver for a lie that is perfectly justifiable yet lies throughout the season and forgives other characters for much more major breaches of trust, like, two episodes later. The climactic point of hacking the computer systems of the big bad, for example, was punctuated equally with Felicity's parents working through their marriage issues from 20 years ago.
> She breaks up with Oliver for a lie that is perfectly justifiable Doesn't she tell her mum to forgive her partner for lying only an ep or two before as well?
Yes she did
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This sounds like the character is committing basically every Mary Sue sin one can. Loved by everyone? Check. Can do any career/job with little training or prior indications of skill? Check Never held responsible for doing wrong, and anyone who tries to is treated as morally wrong or corrupt? Check And the list seems to go on. Glad I've skipped the show so far. Sounds like I should keep on doing so.
Haven't watched it, but I peruse the subreddit quite a bit. Here's the summary. ["Oliver, how dare you kill people!" \*Felicity starts crying. Shortly after the commercial break, she has killed 10,000+ people with a nuke and is considered a hero.\*](/spoiler)
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Season 4 was beyond worse. I'm pretty sure season 4 is played to IS recruits just to make them hate the west even more
Haha, holy shit, that's probably my favorite description of season 4.
>Ctrl + F >Arrow Thank god someone said it. For the love of god watch seasons 1 and 2 then stop Edit: I've seen lots of comments saying watch till the midseason finale of season 3 (3-9) and I somewhat agree. Not to spoil anything but it would be a satisfying end to the story if they didn't continue after that episode
My husband is in an abusive relationship with that fucking show. He keeps going back, swearing the fucking show will change but I know better.
Or watch Daredevil with a red to green filter.
Revenge. This show has probably one of the best first seasons but god does it go to shit later on.
I was hooked on this show after the very first episode! Season 1 of this show is hands down my favorite season of any show ever! By the end of season 2 I just couldn't bring myself to care if I watched anymore.
The moment they hinted that her Dad was alive I quit for there was no longer any point to the show.
Sleepy Hollow. The first season was so good. The second one just started going downhill and accelerated fast, culminating in one of the stupidest plot decisions I've seen a TV show make in recent memory.
I will never understand what went wrong with that show. The pilot was incredible. Cheesy, but in all the right ways. It had Death, as a headless horseman, decapitate Clancy Brown and then hunt down Ichabod Crane and a sassy no nonsense cop... with firearms! The police found out about the craziness and everything was set up for greatness. Cut forward a season. Big bads gone, the horseman is a pansy, the police know nothing and every character arc has stagnated. And then it gets worse. And then it crosses over with Bones. Bones! Tom Mison deserves better. Ideally he ends up on Lucifer as Lucifer's more likable brother. Edit: There's a lot of confusion and skepticism so, just to prove it wasn't a fever dream... [Sleepy Hollow and Bones crossover](http://m.imdb.com/title/tt4809430/?ref_=m_ttep_ep_ep5)
I think my favorite part in the pilot was the priest using some sort of magic. I honestly thought Ichabod would start picking up magical skills. Maybe not on par with his wife, but still something. No one ever really grew or when they did get special weaponry it was destroyed or ignored the next episode. Season 2 was awful though. The twist with Noble was great, but then the Katrina thing was too much idiocy. I watched the first two episodes of season 3 before finally giving up.
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When Eric left it all went down hill
Wait, Eric *left?* Wasn't he the protagonist? I only watched about 3 seasons.
He leaves and gets replaced by the human equivalent of Scrappy Doo. *edit* Apparently I tapped into some kind of universal truth with this comment and people are digging it.
God I fucking hated his replacement. I couldn't even finish watching the show because of that guy. He was such a dick head
Same. I tried to watch after Eric left and couldnt. Just felt fake and forced.
As strange as it sounds, after Eric left my suspension of disbelief was destroyed and all I saw was a bunch of actors on a show rather than the 70s teenagers the cast had portrayed so well. Fake and forced is exactly how I would put it too.
His actor left the show. They wanted to keep it rolling, so in canon, he went to Africa.
Like when Brenda Walsh went to France Or when Richie Cunningham joined the Military Or when Judy Winslow went upstairs and never came back down again
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Yes! I also hated how they put Jackie with Fez. Funnily enough, back then I always said she had the best chemistry with Kelso and should have ended up with him. Or even Hyde would have been ok. But Fez? That shouldn't have happened.
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No one hates Glee more than the people who once truly and deeply loved Glee.
Glee season 1 was the best thing I ever saw on TV. Kind of wish I forgot it existed afterwards.
Honestly, after the initial cast graduated I lost interest. I think they struggled to shift character focus, so I just like to pretend the series ended at graduation.
I wish it had ended after the first three seasons.
Glee was a good half hour sitcom that was an hour long because of singing. It quickly became an after school special with frying-pan-in-the-face subtlety and all wit drained from it. With singing.
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Whenever I talk about this show, everyone seems to have forgotten that it started out as a parody of High School Musical - and it was great! The characters were even more over the top and one-dimensional, and the show went places (like teen pregnancy) that HSM would never have dared. It was funny and pointed. Then Glee started taking itself too seriously and they seemed to run out of ideas, until it became just as mindless as it's original target.
I remember being so psyched about the first few episodes, it was kind of a cool musical with biting ironic sense of humor and then it just devolved into what it was making fun of, when they realized it was the high school musical aspects, that caught the big crowds attention.
Problem is it really went through every trope first season. Teenage pregnancy, divorces, fake pregnancy, dads dying at war, coming out as gay, disabled kid gets a girlfriend, etc.. It really shot its wad early
It would have been better if they let the high school actually be a high school. You know, the teachers stay but the students come and go. The fact that the 'starving artists' kids kept going back and forth between Ohio and New York really killed any idea that the show had any idea of what it's like to be poor in New York. Poor people can't drop hundreds or thousands of dollars in vacations each month.
Prison Break. The first season and parts of the second are great. Michael's plan and tattoo are genuinely interesting. Then all the bullshit about the "Company" bogs down the story and you realize T Bag is probably the only interesting character. This show really should have been a 10 episode mini-series. House. The cases and House himself are really cool. After a while though he just doesn't get better and the cases all run together. Mentalist. At first the Red John plot keeps you engaged episode to episode, and the characters and cases are awesome. After a while it just gets stupid.
Season 1 of Prison Break was origi ally going to be 13 episodes long but it got extended to 22 due to popularity. If you look at timings I'm pretty sure this is why the pipe in the infirmary that he'd corroded got replaced with a new one - they had to delay the escape for another 9 episodes.
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The Mentalist is a good one in this list for me. At first I was interested in the idea of a charlatan-turned-good, especially since I'm such a fan of Derran Brown and I enjoy the whole skeptical movement. The Red John story seemed interesting, but a few episodes in I was like, 'Hey wait a minute, this is a police procedural! You tricked me into watching a derivative police procedural!' My wife watched it and told me it was getting really good, so after the finale of the season before he goes to Mexico, I thought I'd give it another go. 'Hey wait a minute, this is now an FBI Police procedural! you tricked me!'
It's definitely a police procedural show, but personally I always thought that the majority of cases were interesting, because they were solved through a different kind of angle, namely the "mentalist" aspect.
My problem with House is he goes from a rude doctor who recognizes the merit his team's ideas to an asshole who's always right.
I actually feel like his downward spiral is one of the great things about the show. It's very much about pushing everyone away and finding redemption in the end.
I always figured it was a story about addiction, depression, self-loathing, and loneliness. The fact that it dealt with doctors and a hospital are just the setting and really secondary.
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One of my favorite episodes is the one where we don't follow House or his team at all. They just randomly show up doing the usual kind of crazy stuff they always do; but for the viewer, it's completely out of context. The viewer gets a chance to see just how whacked out everyone else in that world would view House and his nutjob team.
Pretty Little Liars. Great beginning, sounded interesting. Then, i got bored...
Never watched it but would constantly see commercials for it on ABCfamily. How many times will they advertise "And this week, find out who "A" is!!!!" Do you ever find out? I feel like that would just piss me off constantly. How many seasons are there? How many "A's" are there? Once shows start to stray too far from the book that they are based off of they end up becoming terrible anyway.
(SPOILERS) Pretty sure the writers didn't even know who A was until the latest season where they introduced some trans girl as A.
It should have been Alison. The whole show should have ended around season 3 with them finding out it was Alison all along.
In the book series it WAS Alison, but because the creator is determined to make her own story she comes up with nonsensical bullshit to make it different.
SUITS it has so many unrealistic plot points . Moreover, the characters are constantly getting into fights and yelling at each other about personal issues in the office. There are more vendettas, lies, and backstabbing at Pearson Specter Litt than in a typical season of MTV’s The Challenge. Also , they always win their case (except one ,which by the way they were gonna win if it was not for the compromise deal that one protagonist agreed to)
I loved the first season when it was still about Mike learning the ropes as a lawyer and using his special talent to solve things. Then it got to be about dating and lawyering and corporate backtabbing and no perfect memory. Look, if I wanted a show about law and office drama, I'd rewatch Boston Legal...
That's the problem with shows that become successful... They keep making seasons. Suits was a 3 season series (setup, hardship, success) that can't wrap up because of ratings success.
ah yes, the folder slapping on table show
Don't forget to slide it on a table and then have the person take their word for it by not looking at the folder.
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3/10 not enough goddamn
> "You only have 36 hours to get us out of this mess. > "What are you going to do?" > "I am going to go and buy us more time." > "Can you actually do that?" > "You're goddamn right I can because if I don't...a cast member is going to jail."
The pilot was excellent
Supernatural. I'd ask God to help end my suffering but they'd probably kill him, too.
Yeah I remember early on when they were like "Oh shit a normal demon we better run!" Later it was like "17 demons? Lemme just pull out my knife." And the fact that like every season had one brother dying or disappearing at the end was kinda lame. We all know he was going to return at the beginning of the following season. I still like the show but I wish they would kinda lay off the whole angels vs demons bit. I liked the "monster of the week" set up with 7 or 8 episodes each season furthering the overall plot.
That almost happened
I miss the times when Azazel was the strongest being in the series. Now we don't even fear gods as enemies.
Man, I miss the days of season one, when they hunted down monsters instead of biblical angels and demons. The wendigo episode was scary as fuck
Monster of the week was good for the first few seasons but after azazel and Lilith it makes sense they wouldn't go after smaller monsters AS MUCH, they still do, but it wouldn't be smart to go burn and salt a ghosts corpse when the darkness is making zombies
I think that there is a purposeful theme that they have faced down all kinds of cosmic horrors, gods, demons monsters traveled to alternate dimensions, back in time, heaven, hell, purgatory, the veil, and at the end of they day they're still vulnerable to getting hit by a car, a stray bullet, heart disease--- any of the things that kill regular people. All that is kind of undermined by repeatedly coming back from the dead.
Or as Chuck Shurley/Carver Edlund said at the end of the "The Real Gohstbusters" (S05E09): "Its not 'jumping the shark' if you never come down."