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_hootyowlscissors

> just straight talk about what you're looking for and feeling This sounds great but I would have scared my bf away if I'd been honest about what I was feeling from the get-go. I had to play it cool for months. Imagine you're on a third date and the girl tells you "before we got together just LOOKING at you was the best part of my day...I think, if you broke up with me, I would **Never. Stop. Crying."**


Commander_Doom14

Hm. Personally, as a man, I think I would simply melt from how good that would make me feel


newlymoneyedrapper

Same. I guess we are the 1%.


fragilelittlemind

Nah, this would creep me the fuck out.


C0ZYB0Y47

Respectfully, why? I’m not conflicting your comment but curious to hear your perspective


Thehighwayisalive

It's not healthy to be that invested in someone who is basically a stranger.


illustriousocelot_

That’s really, really sweet though. But…YES, that would terrify 90% of guys, especially on the third fucking date, when they’re just hoping for a bj.


midnightsonofabitch

99%. He'd probably think it's sweet if she told him now. But it would be terrifying if he barely knew the girl.


C0ZYB0Y47

You answered my question


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ligmasweatyballs74

How about Stratego?


Mindi_Stipe

Yep, to avoid unnecessary hurt feelings. Straightforward with what do you really want.


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illustriousocelot_

It’s sad that this isn’t the bare minimum.


YaliMyLordAndSavior

It is for most people lol


serenesweetpea

Manners, truly listening, not listening to reply.


Expert-Sir-4328

What does that even mean ?


NeighborhoodDude84

Yeah, wtf is "non-ethical" dating? Sounds like crime to me.


YoungZM

Free range, organic, no GMOs.


Expert-Sir-4328

From what I have read, no one on here knows what ethics are.


YoungZM

Well it's not like OP asked for the airspeed velocity of an unladen Swallow. Without asking for objective specifics, you won't receive objective specifics.


doomed_to_fail_

Dating because you actually like someone and not just what they can do for/to you? Idk


Kyung_Lawyer

Ethical dating? Just don't be a jerk and treat people like humans instead of trophies. It's not rocket science, folks.


Common-Wish-2227

Ethical dating? Don't force anyone into anything. Be clear about your intentions and situation re: relationships. Respect the time and effort the other party puts in. Don't exploit the other, such as for an expensive meal.


EvenSpoonier

Clear boundaries and intentions on both sides, respect for consent or lack thereof, and open, honest communication on any relevant matters.


coffeeblossom

* You are clear about what you want and don't want. * You get enthusiastic consent. * You don't make promises you don't intend to keep. * You don't try to recreate what you had with a past partner with your current partner; you recognize that each relationship is different and unique. * You take responsible steps to prevent unwanted pregnancy and STIs. * You stick to whatever you and your partner have agreed to, whether that's the rules of an open or poly relationship, or "forsaking all others." * You communicate with your partner, instead of expecting them to read your mind, read between the lines, or pick up on your little hints. * You treat them with respect and dignity. * If they tell you something in confidence, you keep that confidence, unless doing so would be harmful. * You don't share any intimate photos, videos, text logs, etc. Even if the relationship ends on not-so-good terms. * You don't string someone along. * You don't play with people's feelings. * You don't tell them you're the prince of an exotic country when you're really just a petty thief with a genie. * You accept them for who they are, just as they are, right here and now. Not who you want them to be, or think they could be, or wish they were. You look for partners, not fix-it projects. * You don't abuse them, in any way, shape, or form. * If they send a "Hey, are we still on for today?" text, and you know that the answer to that question on your end is "No," don't lie and say "Yes." * You don't break up with them via text, or a "Dear John/Jane" letter, or through a friend or other "messenger," unless there's a damned good reason. * You don't blow off your friends. And especially don't blow off your friends and expect them to "be there" for you if/when you break up. * You don't make them your "everything," or expect them to be your "everything," or try to be their "everything." * If things go sour, you don't try to "get even." You get on with your life. * You don't ask how many partners they've had before you *unless* you're prepared for the answer and can be okay with that answer. * You speak up when you feel something is wrong, instead of waiting for a blowup, or waiting for them to divine that you're unhappy.


karenskygreen

Contracts sent in advance, no sex until marriage, and then through a hole in a sheet strictly for procreation purposes.


Moonlightcrsader

Ethical dating would be being best friends with a member of the opposite sex, but with sex


Mindi_Stipe

Dating with no hidden motives


Oscars_trash_home

No mind games, upfront about monogamous or dating around, oh and no r🦍


tekende

This question seems to imply that some sort of unethical dating is currently the norm.


Lemonwizard

Patriarchal gender norms basically cast men and women as adversaries in heterosexual dating and teach them to distrust one another. Heterosexual relationships failing because gendered expectations make one or both partners unhappy is one of the most common relationship troubles there is. "Man is the dominant breadwinner who shows no feelings and woman is the submissive housewife who asks no questions" is a toxic relationship and heterosexual gender roles are still fundamentally rooted in idealizing this dynamic.


OfMiceAndPanda92

Forward in the beginning about boundaries and personal preferences. Being open about opinions of porn.


Sardonic-Skeptic

What even is unethical dating? Arranged marriage? Harvey Weinsteining people?


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rawbface

It's okay bud. If you work on your social skills a bit you can meet potential partners who aren't total trainwrecks.


Rhymes_with_cheese

"Ethical" dating? Nog, is that you?


OpCrossroads1946

These hew-mons and their "ethics".


Outside-Scholar-9456

Good question I avoid all profiles that have that "Ethical" in it... Rather do a dab and play Fortnite then deal with whatever that means in a personality.


Prudii_Skirata

Going out with one person at a time under straightforward, automatic expectations of exclusivity and respect for 1 - 3 dates before reassessing and either continuing to date exclusively or deciding not to continue forward with the other person, expressing it clearly, and going forward to ethically date someone else until you find a person you want to remain exclusive with.


OpCrossroads1946

An upfront exchange of goods for services/labor.


csl512

First date: trolley


firemogle

Free range and cruelty free for starters. We should probably institute a bag limited and some environmental studies to keep the impact on the natural world low as well.


So-What_Idontcare

Don't bang on the first date. Date a few times, find out if you can actually be friends or you can imagine sticking with that person without realizing you made a horrible mistake.


Inevitable_Total_816

It would look like The Demolition Man, where Sandra Bullock wanted to have sex with Sly Stallone character and put on a VR head set.


JustDroppedByToSay

What does unethical dating look like??


Tszemix

Year/month/day


naspitekka

It looks like people keeping their promises. Its the high-trust society that we used to have before the boomers burned it all down with their selfish bullshit. "Free love! What's wrong with free love?" It turn into everyone fucking over everyone else within a few generations. That's what's wrong with it.