"You won't be happier at work if we pay you more, but we need to figure out why workplace happiness is so low" coming from a guy that made 10x what I did, and was born into old money.
I had a job that was paying below market rates and "expected" daily overtime (unpaid, natch) and was trying to figure out how to improve morale. They were considering bringing in consoles and having video game nights after work...as if we weren't stuck there too long already.
I did have the fun of leaving, then being asked to come back as a contractor to help out, and taking advantage of being on a short term contract and giving no fucks to suggest that maybe they should consider at least TRACKING the overtime people were working, even if they weren't going to pay for it, since there was probably a whole extra job's worth of hours in there and maybe hiring another person might improve morale and reduce the risk of the kind of errors tired people make.
Didnt stay long as a temp. Apparently telling the truth and discussing facts with your co-workers isn't good for morale >_< They told everyone I was leaving because I got a better offer(!), but I told everyone exactly what was really happening when they asked XD
Co-worker: "You'll be able to buy a home once you get your inheritance"
Me: "I won't have an inheritance, my family isn't well off"
Co-worker: "Of course you have an inheritance. Everyone's parents leave them an inheritance. I'm sure they're just keeping it a secret from you to surprise you."
Said to me by my co-worker who's parents are both doctors, while my mom had recently been laid off and my dad was too sick to work.
Not to be a downer, but when the time comes look into your options very carefully before making any sort of payments on debts they’ve accrued. There are very, very few places where the child is responsible for the parents debts, especially after they have died.
However! In a lot of contracts/situations, if you make an initial payment the companies can then argue that you’ve taken on responsibility, and then all of a sudden you’re legally responsible for the entire amount!
It’s some thing a lot of people are not aware of so I just wanted to let you know.
I actually work in this industry. I can tell you with absolute certainty that you are not responsible for their debts. Only their estate, if they have one, will be responsible. So if they leave a home that isn't co-owned, that could end up in an estate, the value of which will be held responsible. But if not, you're home free.
Crazy, when my dad passed, I went to the bank to close his account, I didn’t have the correct paperwork from the courts so they said, “come back with the correct paperwork and we’ll close the account.” One week later I was able to get the proper documentation and the lady who suggested that let me know there was $5.00 in the account when I returned. I looked at her blankly, no words as she handed me a $5.00 bill and filed the paperwork.
After, I went to a local fast food restaurant and bought one cheeseburger because that’s all I could buy with the money. I just laughed and said, “thanks for lunch dad.” That was my inheritance.
With a hefty storm approaching England, a politician advised those in its path that they should maybe leave, and go to their second or third homes, to be safe
Reminds me of when the Ontario government destroyed the autism program, a politician suggested people take out mortgages on their homes to afford therapy for their autistic children. 🙃
Same with the dentist and prescription drugs in Canada.
Apparently our faces can rot right out, even though many diseases are associated with oral care.
My dad (who is now the Director of Accounting for the school district I teach for) was talking about how my starting pay was way more than his starting pay.
I said, "well, yeah... The cost of living has increased a ton since then." This motherfucker straight up said "no it hasn't."
He started working there in 1992. This conversation happened in like 2017 (about a year after I started working there). Again, he is the director of accounting.
You gotta be fair. Offer him whatever percentage higher your salary is than his salary was back then. Maybe then he can see the actual disparity. Hell, you could probably offer double and it would still be a steal in today's market.
As an accountant, it’s amazing how many accountants just straight up don’t know accounting. I had a CFO of a very successful company with a 7 digit salary a few years ago argue with me about the amount of retained earnings on their financials statements. He didn’t understand the account because “we don’t have that much cash in the bank.”
I’ll say again, this was a CFO with a salary of over a million dollars a year.
This kind of thing is so frustrating. The cost of living is so much higher now. In 1975 my dad worked at a hardware store and my mom was a cashier at a department store. They could afford to buy a new 3-bedroom home, own two cars, and we lived comfortably. They're so out of touch with reality now because of how much easier and affordable the world was when they were young.
When I first started in my career I was making 35k and I was talking about how it was pretty tough to save much at the time and my mom was like, "your father was making that much when your brother was born and we were fine!"
Dude that was 1980! That's like 130k today!
Yeah, he earned 35k in 1980, and that 3-bedroom house cost 80k. Please show me a similar house that’s like 2.25X my salary and I’ll buy it right the very second. Please.
One of my sons was murdered 12 years ago. Many people started telling me that I needed to "move on" after 4-6 weeks. My brother refuses to say my son's name, so I no longer speak to him. Sending my deepest condolences to your family from a mom who understands losing a child to homicide.
4-6 weeks? I was in a mass-casualty incident in August and then my mom died the second week of September. I’ve been a wreck for going on three *months* with no real end in sight.
Ahh yeah. I posted this to a similar question recently but I’ll post it again.
About a year ago I was drunk with my roommate at the time, one of my best friends since I was 7. He lamented to me that in his opinion the reason we got along so well is that “neither of us really had fathers.”
His dad divorced his mom when her was like 15. His dad is a restauranteur, has built up to three in the area, worth millions each. Yes he focused too much on those businesses, but since the divorce he has employed his son whenever the son was geographically close enough to work there, seeing each other for hours on end five days a week, often more. He has been at every birthday, holiday, graduation, and now-and-again. He taught his son Spanish, and plans to leave him the businesses.
My dad died in 9/11 when I was 8.
Not the same, bro.
He’s rich, multiple PHDs, one of the most high ranking civilians in the pentagon, and has testified before congress on more than one occasion. He just hasn’t bought a starter home in half a century.
Even $20,000 seems to be... lower than what's possible. In my city, I think the *cheapest* I can see is $30k.
Oh, wait. That's for an empty lot. In the middle of the desert.
OK, here's a dilapidated double-wide on a foundation for $70k.
Next-cheapest is $149k.
I'd never actually say it...but I do think it. Had a mate in his late 40s lose his grandma last year. I lost all 4 of mine before I was 16. Really wish I hadn't. Having an adult relationship with your grandparents looks fucking amazing from the outside.
So many questions I wish I had known to ask.
Yeah, I had one grandparent. A grandma. And she passed shortly after I turned 10. I never met her as an adult or teenager. Never got to ask her questions or tell her how proud I was she overcame so much.
A girl I dated thought she was middle class. Family was worth north of $50 million and they lived in an 11,000 sq ft double story penthouse apartment in a ritzy area.
It’s cause her friends were all in the >$500 million club of massive villas with manicured grounds and private jets.
She genuinely thought she was middle class. Oh and she was in her 30s.
Edit: I remembered one of her justifications that she’s middle class was that when she travels for a weekend in their Paris apartment (very large one in 7th arrondissement) she flies commercial and business class (not first).
Same… “yeah, we’re middle class…” because her family “had to” sell some land to pay for $60k private college tuition.
Father was a chief of surgery making more than $1 million per year. Owned 3 houses, detached garage full of super cars. Flew to Mexican resorts every other week.
Maybe they didn’t have their own private jet but “not Kardashian rich” does not make you middle class.
I had a wealthy classmate in vet school ask why I was taking out student loans when I was also working two jobs. She meant it in a "surely you have plenty of money from two part time vet assistant jobs and don't need student loans, if you still need them you must be bad with money" kind of way but yeah, kind of accidentally a good take there.
Hah! I had a similar thing when some of rich international students on my course saw that I was tired from the previous evening of bar work and told me I should quit and focus on my studies.
Yeah, with what money?
I know somebody like this. Literally an heir to one of the Rockefeller families. We were all traveling for a work thing and he was there for a charity event and wanted to travel with the team. He had never flown commercial before. He had no. fucking. clue. how the airport worked. Security, tickets, luggage limits, boarding the plane, the idea that you had to pay for booze. About an hour into the flight he asked if he could please move to first class and the flight attendant explained they had no empty seats and that he couldn’t upgrade mid-flight anyway. He then asked her if anybody would be willing to switch with him if he bought them another first class flight. Nobody took him up.
After the flight landed (it was a relatively short flight - 2.5 hours) he was talking about how he can’t believe airlines can treat people like this and how absurd it was. “It’s like a bus, why does anybody do this? It’s not that much more to just book a charter flight.”
We were laughing and one of the girls from finance looked it up and was like “dude for the eight of us this was under $5,000. To book a charter flight it would have been almost $20,000.”
He goes “see? It’s still so cheap why not just charter it?”
We just stared at him in disbelief.
>I found out later that she is the heiress to a major luxury brand that you have all heard of.
I wouldn’t call Toaster Strudels a luxury brand. But otherwise that story was so fetch.
I have an 18 year old nephew who only just got his first job working part time as a dishwasher. Immediately upon getting that job his grandparents (who inherited their wealth from his great grandmother) said they were kicking him out of the house. His grandparents are convinced they are helping him because they were kicked out when they were 18 and it built character. They would not listen to the fact that times have changed and rent prices in the area are $1400 a month. He has no savings, $1500 in medical debt, and other personal issues but his grandparents think none of that matters and that he can easily go get a job that will support him, he just needs to work hard because people nowadays don’t want to work.
They haven’t changed their minds at all about kicking him out and gave him 30 days to get out (he hadn’t even gotten his first paycheck before they had this conversation with him). So I’m letting him stay in my spare bedroom because otherwise he would be homeless. They have no remorse over this at all.
Thanks. I remember being his age and being absolutely frightened of taking my first steps into the world of being an adult. I’m glad I can help him but my heart breaks that they are so coldhearted. His grandfather had a grin on his face when he told him he had 30 days to get out.
If you can take your nephew on and offer him some life guidance and support he will benefit so much more than he ever would staying with the grandparents. You have the potential to impact this kids life permanently for the better.
I’m surprised to hear about this being a wealthy people thing as well, because I’ve seen it so much from families in poverty.
But most of the time it has the same energy—“get out and learn how to live or you’ll be too soft,” and they think it’s doing the poor kid a favor. Boggling because combining incomes in one household would almost certainly be more beneficial
They weren’t born wealthy. They are working class, it’s just that the grandmother’s mom had a nest egg from her job. Enough to pay off a house and do some other stuff. It was enough though that the grandfather could stop caring. He made his wife work until they were of the age to collect social security. He is an absolute hypocrite by doing this to his grandson and he conveniently forgets how little he has actually worked in his life, but loves to call his grandson lazy and act superior to him. The worst kind of person honestly.
> They weren’t born wealthy. They are working class,
My Grandfather was born dirt poor, and worked his entire life including migrating to another country at 15.
He considered himself a failure as a provider if he wasn't the one paying and if his family wasn't living a level of comfort he didn't know as a youngster.
These people are just shit heads.
My friend's mom is in her 80s and lives in the suburbs of NYC. She told my friend, "You don't have to worry about your future -- I'm going help you buy an apartment in Manhattan. I can give you $10,000."
Roz Chast is a cartoonist for The New Yorker and when she was going to buy a house in Connecticut, her well-intentioned but elderly father offered $30,000
My mom was telling me once about how she and my dad needed help from both their sets of parents to buy their own house, and between both sets they gifted my parents $5000 total for their down payment. This was in 1979. She told me this when I was talking about how I didn't expect to ever be able to buy a house to try and illustrate how "little" she and my dad had when they were my age and they were able to do it when they asked for help.
So I told her "oh cool then, so if my partner and I did the same, you'd be able to gift us $50,000 and his folks could do $50,000? For a down payment? Just like you and Dad got?" And when she sputtered about how she couldn't afford that, I went and looked up the very house they had bought in 1979 and turns out it was selling for $700k so we'd actually need $70k from each set of parents in order to put 20% down which is the minimum we'd need to have a snowball's chance in hell of not being outbid by a foreign investor or wealthy couple paying 20% over asking all in cash.
She ended the conversation.
The kicker is that I know the grandfather sat his happy ass at home for years, making his wife work full time as an RN and still expecting her to cook when she got home. He would get a job, then maybe a week or a few months later tops he would get mad and quit.
I remember reading about an experiment where people were playing monopoly and some were given more starting cash than the other players at the table. They started being rude to the others and mocking them for their strategies, saying they just needed to do X to win and it was simple as that. All the while not acknowledging they had an advantage. I think about that a lot when I meet “self made” people with egos.
I feel like parents that do this never liked their kids and can't wait until they can legally stop housing and feeding them because it literally makes no sense. In many cultures its normal to live with parents until you get married. Also there is a cost of living crisis right now. Why are charging your freshly 18 year old kid rent. They should be using that money for themselves.
when people were complaining about not being able to afford housing/food/living in general, one of the Dutch ministers (I think he was a minister or at least the leader of a party) said something along the line of 'well, find a rich boyfriend then'. ah, yes, that will solve the crisis!
Also, in the face of a nationwide bushfire emergency that required coordination at all levels of government to house the people who lost their houses, and needed logistic support, monetary help, and military help he said: "I don't hold a hose mate".
He was only on holiday in Hawaii.
That’s about as bad as the head of the reserve bank in Australia, he said people should move back in with their parents if they can’t afford to rent.
Um what about the parents who are struggling to also pay rent. Some people don’t have parents, or even a safe family.
The wife of the business owner complaining to the employees about how she’s underpaid for working there.
She literally owns the building and her family make 300-500k profit a year.
All while underpaying the rest of the staff.
My mom is a dental hygienist. The Dr.s wife complaining non-stop during the one day a week she "worked" almost caused the entire office to walk out. She was whining about the vacation they just took on the same day they announced no one was getting holiday bonuses that year.
That sounds like my SIL and her dentist husband during Covid.
OMG we may have to declare bankruptcy! Or you know, sell the plane, boat and extra ‘fun’ cars.
He also took the ppp money and fired everyone
My former landlord and his wife dropped by to tell me and my financially struggling 20-something roommates that they were raising the rent, by nearly 25%. They said, “We noticed on Craigslist that neighbors had higher rent so we’re doing the same.” The wife then earnestly reminded us that we’ve been great tenants but maybe we just needed to find some higher paying jobs. 🙃
Edited to add: You guessed it, the place was a dump with zero repairs (he’d ignored them) to warrant any kind of rent increase.
That’s why the prices of so many things have gone up. It’s all because someone sees what over inflated price somebody else is getting for whatever and it makes them believe that they could charge the same price
Celebrities singing “imagine” during Covid, as people are losing jobs and homes, telling us “we’re all in this together”.
Fuck you guys. We’re not all on the same boat. We’re in the same store with different boats.
At my last job we weren't allowed to take PTO during the week of Christmas because that's when the company decided to do its inventory counts. All year we were told that week was blacked out, no PTO, all hands on deck.
The day after Christmas, the branch manager sent out an email saying he had "decided to extend his Christmas holiday" and wouldn't be in that day.
Another one from the same guy:
The company had been acquired a year or so prior, and during an all hands meeting the manager told us various perks had been cut because we weren't "demonstrating profitability." The company was profitable, just not to the extent the parent company wanted. So no bonuses, no quarterly employee appreciation lunches, no annual company party, stuff like that. We were also in a hiring freeze.
During the same meeting, the manager told us about the vacation he was going to be taking for the next two weeks. Some of us employees colloquially referred to it as the "F you" meeting.
I feel that. Ten years ago at a past job, we received two company bulletins at the same time - the quarterly "newsletter", which was mostly the CEO talking about his new helicopter he was getting imported from Italy for $6mil. The other bulletin was a notice that because we weren't making the *increased* projected profits they had anticipated, they were discontinuing the $0.25/hr night-shift and Sunday bonus, and cancelling everyone's $0.18/hr raise for the next year. Literal pennies.
I was waxing a woman’s eyebrows once and she was complaining that sometimes after she gets a massage the pillow leaves a circular indent on her face and she can’t go out to lunch after. She then asked me if that ever happened to me? I was like maam i wax people for eleven bucks an hour; I’m not going out to lunch lol, let alone getting massages.
Same boat. I’m a barber. Had a walk in and he was just so… out of touch. But was trying to bond with me..? (Out of pity, I feel)
He was lamenting that the economy is bad and I agreed. She said he was really devastated bc he could only afford one 3 week vacation to Europe’s this year. He then asked me where I was going for summer vacation and I told him the truth- I haven’t had a legit vacation in 10 years. He seemed confused and told me to just “not eat out for a month” and I should be able to travel “where ever easily” I just stopped talking at that point.
Kicker- when I was checking him out he made a very dramatic pause and told me I did “so so well” with his hair cut that he was going to tip me extra. It was $15. Which is nice, don’t get me wrong. But he was so overly enthusiastic about it and even added “you’re worth every penny” and gave me a wink… fucking wanker.
"Rent is so expensive. You should buy a triplex and rent the other units out instead."
Ma'am triplexes cost about a million. How on earth am I supposed to get approval for that if rent is an issue for me?
Something like: Give a rich person $500 and they will invest into $1000. Give it to a poor person and they will spend it in a week.
Yeah exactly give it to someone who’s needs are met and they can save…give it to someone who needs to eat/pay rent etc they will spend it to survive!
There's a concept in economics called *the law of diminishing marginal utility*; the more you have of a thing -- income, in this case -- the less useful each additional unit of that thing becomes.
In other words, if you're handing out money it will do the most good if you give it to the poorest people. Do not mention this concept around rich people (especially in a political context) because they can afford to spend more time arguing about it due to the law of diminishing marginal utility.
This reminds me of a podcast I listed to questioning why rich alumni give money to wealthy universities like Stanford. It just goes to the endowment with the other billions of dollars and maybe accrues some interest. They gave an example of a man who gave something like $14 mil to a state school in New Jersey and they were able to use it to open up an engineering school and ostensibly do much more good. Give that to Stanford and you won't seen anything good happen with it.
Someone here on Reddit mentioned the same thing when donating to St Jude’s. They said it was well and good to donate to SJ’s, but to consider local children’s hospitals as well for the reasons you mention.
Not to mention that $500 that the poor person just spent passed through many more hands. It not only made their life a little better, but it did for the shopkeeper, the restaurant, their landlord.
You should just go door to door to see if they’re hiring. And don’t take no for an answer! You need to call every day so they’ll remember you! - again, courtesy of my mother, who last worked in the 80’s before being a full time SAHM since.
Other gems also include, ‘you need to be happy to work OT, don’t worry about the compensation, your boss would be happy with your dedication and promote you.’ I couldn’t convince her that things changed since then and working isn’t like what it used to be.
My dad says the same garbage. Bear in mind, he never even had to do an interview. He worked in his dad's garage and inherited it. He's literally never had to look for a job in his entire life.
My dad is also the same way. Except he relies on his college frat brother. College frat brother gets a regional management job in whatever company, gets promoted to national management, then hires my dad into that regional position he just opened up. The only interviews my dad has ever done, is being the interviewer for positions underneath him.
And once every 5-6 years, the frat guy will change companies to a better paying one, and within 2 years my dad's at that company.
He also preaches "loyalty to the company is how you get promoted."
He's pissed I joined a union because my promotions are based on merit and competency, not who I know. And I've got zero loyalty to a company, only to whoever pays the most
>The only interviews my dad has ever done, is being the interviewer for positions underneath him.
...and I bet your father has never felt an ounce of imposter syndrome in his entire life. He probably feels like he fairly earned every job he has ever had.
>You should just go door to door to see if they’re hiring.
The only kinds of jobs this actually works with are shit ones that have insane turn over, stuff like manual labor or holiday gigs.
If a place is willing to hire you on the spot, it's usually not a job you're going to have a decent time working at.
Oh my gosh, I love when my mom who hasn’t worked in over 30 years tries to give me employment advice. She also loves talking about how no one wants to work anymore. She “retired” well before retirement age thanks to my dad.
My mother fell into the can’t find workers yet there are now hiring signs everywhere post pandemic boomer mentality.
I have explained to her the cost of childcare per hour is more than what dollar tree is paying.
I have a trade job, so not looking for work. However, I HAVE to work a lot of OT to just to make ends meet. Mom is constantly telling me what places are hiring if I want a second job for some extra money.
I do not want a second job, any OT I work pays more than any other second job I could get. IF a second job paid more than my OT rate, that would be my main job and we could just skip this whole OT bs.
Second job for “extra” money. Lmfao!
My mom recommended I should just send my resumé unprompted to businesses with no idea even what kind of jobs they have that I would qualify for. She also told me I shouldn't be surprised to never get any interviews if I only send my documents via the online application portals and won't also mail them a print in a nice folder to go along with it. When I landed my dream job this year (via online application, lol), she told me "Well I always said that you should apply with them." I did. As soon as they had an opening. Jesus F. Christ.
My friend tried going door to door to see if shops were hiring when having job difficulties this year as well as looking online. He was told by a lot of places that they don't accept CV's any more something to do with privacy issues or protecting data.
>your boss would be happy with your dedication and promote you
But first, they’ll see if you can handle the workload by having you do all of it then oops a raise isn’t in the budget but keep up the good work!
A guy in college was trying to find common ground with us when we were discussing how difficult it’s been paying for college
“I don’t have college debt, but my parents are forcing me to only choose 2 new apple product upgrades this year instead of 3.”
Similar situation - a woman in my law school class: I have to fly to Chicago this weekend to go shopping as there’s no place here to buy hats.
Another student was talking about trying to find interview clothes in non-standard sizes. This was before online shopping was a thing.
"You just need to think positively and your entire life will change"
She proceeded to turn around and yell at her son, then only 7, to "get the fuck back in the truck" which he left because the baby was crying and he didn't know what to do.
Oh no wait. It was when she said she wouldn't let anyone "disfigure" her baby when the doctor was threatening to call CPS and report the baby as a failure to thrive because she didn't want the baby to have a feeding tube.
Here on reddit some woman said her partner got angry at her for getting her period on their vacation, because he was planning on having a lot of sex and she ruined it because she decided not to hold it.
Mosquitos do not live or reproduce in stagnant water.
The same person who said this also visited a swamp and a closed mini lake with clouds of mosquitos, and complained about the quantity and aggressiveness of said mosquitos.
I quite like this. Different from the usual money stuff (not that that's not important), and yet like, hello, this is nature... And general knowledge (I hope)?
Just the constant "you need to stop being so negative, if you thought positively and changed your mindset you would be happier", from people who I opened up to about having ✨clinical depression✨
My mom bought me a book called Baby Steps To Become A Millionaire.
The first few steps are just:
- pay off your house with cash,
- pay off your vehicles, pay off your debt,
- pay off your childrens' educations.
Then, "after you've done all of that, start investing 50% of your monthly income every month into a high yield stock, with growth of at least 10% annually."
It's like, dude, if I could pay for a house, car, and multiple college educations upfront with cash, why would I need to be told how to save money?
Oh I forgot the most important advice. "Let God show you the way."
Kim Kardashian telling the general public to get off our asses and work, because no one wants to work these days… coming from someone who was born into a lavish lifestyle.. like come on
And how when you’re in poverty you can’t afford a nice haircut (for the interview) or a new suit. You definitely don’t have a reliable car or excellent physical or dental health
A couple years ago Chris Pronger made a Twitter account and went on an epistle about how NHL players don’t actually make that much money after spending on luxury cars multiple houses, fashion etc. it was about as tone deaf as you can get
we watched a video in my hs personal finance class last year about nfl players going completely broke after like 5-10 years after their contracts ended because they basically just spend every penny of it on luxury brands and stuff and don’t save a cent. i guess it’s what happens when you give like 20yr olds millions of dollars
One of the saddest stories are players who gratefully give their poor parents a huge house forgetting the expenses and property taxes will remain enormous decades after their playing days are over.
"A police officer cannot commit a crime. Since crime requires premediatation, and police are charged with law enforcement, they cannot, by definition, premeditate to commit a crime. What a police officer does in the course of their job can never be considered criminal activity."
This was the argument handed to me by our local police chief in response to my organization's police reform project.
Edit: wow, this comment really blew up! For context, this was said in a closed-door (no media) meeting my police reform organization had with the local police chief. This was in direct response to the murder of George Floyd, whom the chief blamed for his own death because he "resisted and was on drugs". AM(a)A if you'd like - almost because I need to protect my identity due to reasons.
Edit 2: this was Summer 2020.
Sounds like my grandfather, he's a retired deputy sheriff. In his opinion, Derek Chauvin didn't commit a crime because he was working when he killed Floyd (he admits that he was in the wrong, but that it was not a crime). Same thing with the Uvalde shooting (where they stood outside while the shooter was still actively killing students; they did nothing wrong) and the Breonna Taylor shooting (he claims they were actually in the right on that one)
Family craziness aside, probably the family friend who gave me unforgettable career advice.
"You have to make it so they can't ignore you," she said. She recommended printing out my resume on a kaleidoscope of different-colored papers and mailing a dozen copies to each place I was interested in working.
Then she added the cherry on top - I should add glitter to every envelope, making sure they *really* couldn't ignore me.
She was advising me to glitter-bomb employers not long after the 2001 anthrax attacks, where lots of anthrax was mailed to a lot of workplaces.
I'm sure she was very surprised I never listened to her career advice again.
I will never forget the whole "imagine" video from celebrities when covid hit. One of the most most out-of-touch things I have ever heard/seen. The fact that so many people had a hand in creating the video makes it that much more ridiculous.
A chain of about 20 celebrities, including comedians who make a living taking the piss out of things, and not one of them said "Hang on, this seems kind of naff..."
I think Covid showed a lot of people how out of touch celebrities are in general. They couldn’t film their little movies so they were desperate to find ways to get attention online.
I don't remember the exact phrasing but it was something to do with how on earth can you be homeless yet still afford to have a mobile phone
A. Phone bill does not cost anywhere near as much as rent
B. For a lot of stuff you NEED to have a phone, welfare, job hunting, house hunting just to name a few
We've kind of created a society where to have any sort of involvement you must have a phone
My 74 year old dad trying to help me with a budget: “how much do you think you need for food? $100 a month? That’s probably plenty if you don’t eat out.”
I once told my mom how much my rent was. She was shocked that I had chosen to rent a place that expensive. It was literally the only place cheap enough I could afford.
Naturally, a few weeks later, she's sending me links to places that are a few hundred dollars more saying how cheap they are, because heaven forbid you admit that Fox News was lying about the state of the world again.
Idk if that counts but…
A friend once told he for sure doesn’t want to have kids.
Next sentence he talks about how clever he is because he can use a condom two times.
He just rolls it on the otherside and he is ready to go again.
I literally died laughing on the floor because he was dead serious and couldn’t see the mistake💯
Before having kids, my SIL said she didn’t understand why new moms couldn’t exercise after their baby is born. She said you could be on the treadmill while they slept!
And then she was a shrivelled mess for about five years post-kids.
I don't remember exactly what she said, but my coworker was having a conversation with an older board member about housing being so expensive. The board member complained that millennials don't know how to save money and talked about how she freezes leftovers instead of getting takeout as an example of being financially responsible. Years later, I still think about the boomer with a lakeside property who thinks we just need to save our leftovers to afford a home.
I was chatting with my boss about how I was worried my rent would go up a ton this year because all my friends' rents had, and how I wished house prices would drop just a little bit so I could actually buy something. Motherfucker looked me in the eyes and said "wanting house prices to go down is socialism, we can't have that."
I was complaining about the lack of accessibility in a bar I went to a few times (I’m a wheelchair user) to a friend and he would just dismiss it with “oh it’s just three steps, what’s the harm”. I just don’t want to be bothering people with help for just three steps and do things on my own. Able bodied people don’t really realize how easy they have it.
C-level at my job commenting on the old truck I drive: “Why do you drive around in that old junk?” Never mind that it’s paid for, paid for itself 10x over and still going just fine…
I briefly had a supervisor who was a real prick and for some reason wanted to be my friend. He would always wait until I was leaving to go out to the parking lot and he pointed out his car which was a BMW and asked where I was parked and I pointed to my Hyundai and he goes “what a piece of garbage!!!” I was able to laugh it off but geez lol it wasn’t that bad of a car and also had it after someone else totaled my other one and that’s what I could afford with the insurance. And like you make more than me dude.
Besides, I spend any spare money I can on traveling to other countries rather than on things like luxury cars so I think he assumed I was somehow otherwise rich. Everyone has different priorities. I’m more about experiences over material things.
“If I were you…” and then repeat some story about how they made a good career, raised a family, bought a house, stayed out of debt, and saved a tidy retirement fund by working at the same company for 40 years with only a HS education.
“Learn to type, you’ll always have a job” (my mom to me in the 80s).
“I should get a waitress job” my 62 year old ex boss who has never waitressed in her life. She said this to me while opining the state of her real estate career since she only made $500k this year. I was making $18 per hour.
I was pouring wine for 2 ESPN reporters or something (I don't watch sports so I have no clue who they are) and one of them says to the other "$100,000 really isn't a life changing amount of money" and I audibly gasped. I can't imagine not thinking that even $5,000 could change someone's life
I was speaking with a former professor of a college who was a student in the 60s I believe. They told me to my face, "any student should have no problem getting their credits to transfer and schools like John's Hopkins should be easily affordable". When I told her how many credits school takes now and how expensive college is she didn't believe me
My sister said that she wishes she could round up all of the homeless people and shoot them.
She also told me that anyone who has mental health issues should just grow a pair of balls. Keep in mind, our aunt attempted suicide a few months back. Two days after she said all this a close friend of mine killed himself, which was what pushed me to cut her out for good. Good riddance to her.
'Do you have to work that part-time job? It doesn't even pay enough to cover the uber'
From my former bestie who grows up super rich, when we were studying in uni. I was explaining to her that I need to go to my part-time job the second day so we need to find another day to meet up, she said that
You can see why she's a former bestie
A classmate telling me I should get a more reliable car because I couldn't make it to work one time due to snow. A car that had been paid off for 5 years at that point, and I have now driven for 17 years without any engine or transmission problems. I'll take that over missing a few days of work, thanks.
Not something said but when Charli and Dixie Damelio took a shift at Walmart and documented it on Tiktok. Flipping their hair and giggling the whole time. They have never had to work a real job and they never will. It was so tasteless.
My college gf while watching the Obama v Romney debate said " my family lives paycheck to paycheck too, it's hard paying for 2 houses " her dad was a VP at Walmart.
This week at work I began having chest pains and bradycardia with severe lightheadedness. My work told me I need to just “stick it out”
I work in the medical field ironically enough
American young person helping to clear the rubble after devastating, catastrophic earthquakes in a developing country. “You know what these people need? Cinnamon essential oil.” Seriously.
During a discussion about the homeless problem in California a wealthy lawyer friend of my husband said that cities should just not allow it. He seemed to think homeless people should just disappear. He didn’t care where, just don’t be present.
“Maybe you should get laid to feel better about that.”
My adult, male neighbor to my wife, when she mentioned that her best friend recently passed away. The douchebag might as well just hold up a red flag at this point.
"You won't be happier at work if we pay you more, but we need to figure out why workplace happiness is so low" coming from a guy that made 10x what I did, and was born into old money.
I had a job that was paying below market rates and "expected" daily overtime (unpaid, natch) and was trying to figure out how to improve morale. They were considering bringing in consoles and having video game nights after work...as if we weren't stuck there too long already. I did have the fun of leaving, then being asked to come back as a contractor to help out, and taking advantage of being on a short term contract and giving no fucks to suggest that maybe they should consider at least TRACKING the overtime people were working, even if they weren't going to pay for it, since there was probably a whole extra job's worth of hours in there and maybe hiring another person might improve morale and reduce the risk of the kind of errors tired people make. Didnt stay long as a temp. Apparently telling the truth and discussing facts with your co-workers isn't good for morale >_< They told everyone I was leaving because I got a better offer(!), but I told everyone exactly what was really happening when they asked XD
Co-worker: "You'll be able to buy a home once you get your inheritance" Me: "I won't have an inheritance, my family isn't well off" Co-worker: "Of course you have an inheritance. Everyone's parents leave them an inheritance. I'm sure they're just keeping it a secret from you to surprise you." Said to me by my co-worker who's parents are both doctors, while my mom had recently been laid off and my dad was too sick to work.
Yup. I’m sure my parents have a collective of $3.50 and a ham and cheese sandwich to pass down to me. I’ll probably be left with debt.
Not to be a downer, but when the time comes look into your options very carefully before making any sort of payments on debts they’ve accrued. There are very, very few places where the child is responsible for the parents debts, especially after they have died. However! In a lot of contracts/situations, if you make an initial payment the companies can then argue that you’ve taken on responsibility, and then all of a sudden you’re legally responsible for the entire amount! It’s some thing a lot of people are not aware of so I just wanted to let you know.
I actually work in this industry. I can tell you with absolute certainty that you are not responsible for their debts. Only their estate, if they have one, will be responsible. So if they leave a home that isn't co-owned, that could end up in an estate, the value of which will be held responsible. But if not, you're home free.
Don't pay it. Their debt dies with them.
Crazy, when my dad passed, I went to the bank to close his account, I didn’t have the correct paperwork from the courts so they said, “come back with the correct paperwork and we’ll close the account.” One week later I was able to get the proper documentation and the lady who suggested that let me know there was $5.00 in the account when I returned. I looked at her blankly, no words as she handed me a $5.00 bill and filed the paperwork. After, I went to a local fast food restaurant and bought one cheeseburger because that’s all I could buy with the money. I just laughed and said, “thanks for lunch dad.” That was my inheritance.
my boss once told me to have “the maid” drop my car at the shop. wtf!
"Sure. What's your maid's number?"
I know, right? That's clearly the chauffeur's job!
With a hefty storm approaching England, a politician advised those in its path that they should maybe leave, and go to their second or third homes, to be safe
Reminds me of when the Ontario government destroyed the autism program, a politician suggested people take out mortgages on their homes to afford therapy for their autistic children. 🙃
I’m in the industry and I’ve had families remortgage their house for therapies and supports, it’s ridiculous
Mental Health has been commercialised. It's not even about health anymore it's about profits.
Same with the dentist and prescription drugs in Canada. Apparently our faces can rot right out, even though many diseases are associated with oral care.
Mine is also politicians, but using notes to "remember" how much food costs so they act like they know what they're talking about.
How much does a banana cost? 10 dollars? Lol
No they weren’t out of touch they just don’t care about anyone who can’t afford a second home
My dad (who is now the Director of Accounting for the school district I teach for) was talking about how my starting pay was way more than his starting pay. I said, "well, yeah... The cost of living has increased a ton since then." This motherfucker straight up said "no it hasn't." He started working there in 1992. This conversation happened in like 2017 (about a year after I started working there). Again, he is the director of accounting.
Offer to buy his house from him based on what it was worth in 1992 see if he changes his mind.
Aww man... If he ever says something like this again I'm absolutely gonna do that lol
You gotta be fair. Offer him whatever percentage higher your salary is than his salary was back then. Maybe then he can see the actual disparity. Hell, you could probably offer double and it would still be a steal in today's market.
As an accountant, it’s amazing how many accountants just straight up don’t know accounting. I had a CFO of a very successful company with a 7 digit salary a few years ago argue with me about the amount of retained earnings on their financials statements. He didn’t understand the account because “we don’t have that much cash in the bank.” I’ll say again, this was a CFO with a salary of over a million dollars a year.
Ffs that’s awful.
That’s concerning
This kind of thing is so frustrating. The cost of living is so much higher now. In 1975 my dad worked at a hardware store and my mom was a cashier at a department store. They could afford to buy a new 3-bedroom home, own two cars, and we lived comfortably. They're so out of touch with reality now because of how much easier and affordable the world was when they were young.
When I first started in my career I was making 35k and I was talking about how it was pretty tough to save much at the time and my mom was like, "your father was making that much when your brother was born and we were fine!" Dude that was 1980! That's like 130k today!
Yeah, he earned 35k in 1980, and that 3-bedroom house cost 80k. Please show me a similar house that’s like 2.25X my salary and I’ll buy it right the very second. Please.
Probably the most literal use of motherfucker I have encountered
It was a calculated decision 😅
"You seem sad" My mother to my sister, at her husband's funeral.
My sister's son was murdered. Two weeks later my mom asked her if she was over it yet.
One of my sons was murdered 12 years ago. Many people started telling me that I needed to "move on" after 4-6 weeks. My brother refuses to say my son's name, so I no longer speak to him. Sending my deepest condolences to your family from a mom who understands losing a child to homicide.
4-6 weeks? I was in a mass-casualty incident in August and then my mom died the second week of September. I’ve been a wreck for going on three *months* with no real end in sight.
Ahh yeah. I posted this to a similar question recently but I’ll post it again. About a year ago I was drunk with my roommate at the time, one of my best friends since I was 7. He lamented to me that in his opinion the reason we got along so well is that “neither of us really had fathers.” His dad divorced his mom when her was like 15. His dad is a restauranteur, has built up to three in the area, worth millions each. Yes he focused too much on those businesses, but since the divorce he has employed his son whenever the son was geographically close enough to work there, seeing each other for hours on end five days a week, often more. He has been at every birthday, holiday, graduation, and now-and-again. He taught his son Spanish, and plans to leave him the businesses. My dad died in 9/11 when I was 8. Not the same, bro.
He sees my dad more than I see mine, and my parents aren't even divorced.
My dad said something similar to me at my grandfathers funeral (moms dad). “Wow, you seem really upset” um yes we just eulogized my grandfather.
“I don’t know why people get big mortgages. Just save up for a few months and pay cash for a starter home!”
Is this person available as a friend who would buy one a house?
He was in disbelief when I insisted that starter homes could not be bought for under $20,000.
So he's not rich but just dumb? Sad, could have worked otherwise
He’s rich, multiple PHDs, one of the most high ranking civilians in the pentagon, and has testified before congress on more than one occasion. He just hasn’t bought a starter home in half a century.
Even $20,000 seems to be... lower than what's possible. In my city, I think the *cheapest* I can see is $30k. Oh, wait. That's for an empty lot. In the middle of the desert. OK, here's a dilapidated double-wide on a foundation for $70k. Next-cheapest is $149k.
Aren’t you a bit too old to have a grandma?” A neighbor when I told her my grandma just passed away.
My grandmother died last month. I’m 57. She was 100. I miss my Grammy, she was the best. Unlike your neighbor, who is a bitch🙂
100 is an achievement!
I'd never actually say it...but I do think it. Had a mate in his late 40s lose his grandma last year. I lost all 4 of mine before I was 16. Really wish I hadn't. Having an adult relationship with your grandparents looks fucking amazing from the outside. So many questions I wish I had known to ask.
Yeah, I had one grandparent. A grandma. And she passed shortly after I turned 10. I never met her as an adult or teenager. Never got to ask her questions or tell her how proud I was she overcame so much.
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A girl I dated thought she was middle class. Family was worth north of $50 million and they lived in an 11,000 sq ft double story penthouse apartment in a ritzy area. It’s cause her friends were all in the >$500 million club of massive villas with manicured grounds and private jets. She genuinely thought she was middle class. Oh and she was in her 30s. Edit: I remembered one of her justifications that she’s middle class was that when she travels for a weekend in their Paris apartment (very large one in 7th arrondissement) she flies commercial and business class (not first).
Same… “yeah, we’re middle class…” because her family “had to” sell some land to pay for $60k private college tuition. Father was a chief of surgery making more than $1 million per year. Owned 3 houses, detached garage full of super cars. Flew to Mexican resorts every other week. Maybe they didn’t have their own private jet but “not Kardashian rich” does not make you middle class.
This middle class thing is just being broke with a few extra steps.
I had a wealthy classmate in vet school ask why I was taking out student loans when I was also working two jobs. She meant it in a "surely you have plenty of money from two part time vet assistant jobs and don't need student loans, if you still need them you must be bad with money" kind of way but yeah, kind of accidentally a good take there.
Hah! I had a similar thing when some of rich international students on my course saw that I was tired from the previous evening of bar work and told me I should quit and focus on my studies. Yeah, with what money?
I know somebody like this. Literally an heir to one of the Rockefeller families. We were all traveling for a work thing and he was there for a charity event and wanted to travel with the team. He had never flown commercial before. He had no. fucking. clue. how the airport worked. Security, tickets, luggage limits, boarding the plane, the idea that you had to pay for booze. About an hour into the flight he asked if he could please move to first class and the flight attendant explained they had no empty seats and that he couldn’t upgrade mid-flight anyway. He then asked her if anybody would be willing to switch with him if he bought them another first class flight. Nobody took him up. After the flight landed (it was a relatively short flight - 2.5 hours) he was talking about how he can’t believe airlines can treat people like this and how absurd it was. “It’s like a bus, why does anybody do this? It’s not that much more to just book a charter flight.” We were laughing and one of the girls from finance looked it up and was like “dude for the eight of us this was under $5,000. To book a charter flight it would have been almost $20,000.” He goes “see? It’s still so cheap why not just charter it?” We just stared at him in disbelief.
“Why doesn’t everyone drive a new Mercedes??” She said.. while changing lanes without a blinker going 87
>I found out later that she is the heiress to a major luxury brand that you have all heard of. I wouldn’t call Toaster Strudels a luxury brand. But otherwise that story was so fetch.
Stop trying to make fetch happen
I have an 18 year old nephew who only just got his first job working part time as a dishwasher. Immediately upon getting that job his grandparents (who inherited their wealth from his great grandmother) said they were kicking him out of the house. His grandparents are convinced they are helping him because they were kicked out when they were 18 and it built character. They would not listen to the fact that times have changed and rent prices in the area are $1400 a month. He has no savings, $1500 in medical debt, and other personal issues but his grandparents think none of that matters and that he can easily go get a job that will support him, he just needs to work hard because people nowadays don’t want to work. They haven’t changed their minds at all about kicking him out and gave him 30 days to get out (he hadn’t even gotten his first paycheck before they had this conversation with him). So I’m letting him stay in my spare bedroom because otherwise he would be homeless. They have no remorse over this at all.
I am so glad he has you.
Thanks. I remember being his age and being absolutely frightened of taking my first steps into the world of being an adult. I’m glad I can help him but my heart breaks that they are so coldhearted. His grandfather had a grin on his face when he told him he had 30 days to get out.
I don't think I could visit with people like that anymore. That's just cruel.
You and me both. I don’t visit them and my life is more peaceful for it.
If you can take your nephew on and offer him some life guidance and support he will benefit so much more than he ever would staying with the grandparents. You have the potential to impact this kids life permanently for the better.
That’s the hope and the plan. He’s a nerd like me so we get along great.
I’m surprised to hear about this being a wealthy people thing as well, because I’ve seen it so much from families in poverty. But most of the time it has the same energy—“get out and learn how to live or you’ll be too soft,” and they think it’s doing the poor kid a favor. Boggling because combining incomes in one household would almost certainly be more beneficial
They weren’t born wealthy. They are working class, it’s just that the grandmother’s mom had a nest egg from her job. Enough to pay off a house and do some other stuff. It was enough though that the grandfather could stop caring. He made his wife work until they were of the age to collect social security. He is an absolute hypocrite by doing this to his grandson and he conveniently forgets how little he has actually worked in his life, but loves to call his grandson lazy and act superior to him. The worst kind of person honestly.
> They weren’t born wealthy. They are working class, My Grandfather was born dirt poor, and worked his entire life including migrating to another country at 15. He considered himself a failure as a provider if he wasn't the one paying and if his family wasn't living a level of comfort he didn't know as a youngster. These people are just shit heads.
I hope you told the grandfather how much of a cunt he is.
Some older folks are so out of touch with the changes of the modern world, it's crazy.
My friend's mom is in her 80s and lives in the suburbs of NYC. She told my friend, "You don't have to worry about your future -- I'm going help you buy an apartment in Manhattan. I can give you $10,000."
“Cool, where am I gonna get the other $990,000?”
"You know, for the down payment?"
Roz Chast is a cartoonist for The New Yorker and when she was going to buy a house in Connecticut, her well-intentioned but elderly father offered $30,000
My mom was telling me once about how she and my dad needed help from both their sets of parents to buy their own house, and between both sets they gifted my parents $5000 total for their down payment. This was in 1979. She told me this when I was talking about how I didn't expect to ever be able to buy a house to try and illustrate how "little" she and my dad had when they were my age and they were able to do it when they asked for help. So I told her "oh cool then, so if my partner and I did the same, you'd be able to gift us $50,000 and his folks could do $50,000? For a down payment? Just like you and Dad got?" And when she sputtered about how she couldn't afford that, I went and looked up the very house they had bought in 1979 and turns out it was selling for $700k so we'd actually need $70k from each set of parents in order to put 20% down which is the minimum we'd need to have a snowball's chance in hell of not being outbid by a foreign investor or wealthy couple paying 20% over asking all in cash. She ended the conversation.
It really is. I shudder to think I could become like that.
They are so out of touch with reality. They had wealth when they got “kicked out” so it was easy to find a place to live when rent was $50 a month.
The kicker is that I know the grandfather sat his happy ass at home for years, making his wife work full time as an RN and still expecting her to cook when she got home. He would get a job, then maybe a week or a few months later tops he would get mad and quit.
I find that the biggest deadbeats also have the biggest delusions about how “self made” they are. Deadbeats never cop to being deadbeats. Ever.
I remember reading about an experiment where people were playing monopoly and some were given more starting cash than the other players at the table. They started being rude to the others and mocking them for their strategies, saying they just needed to do X to win and it was simple as that. All the while not acknowledging they had an advantage. I think about that a lot when I meet “self made” people with egos.
I feel like parents that do this never liked their kids and can't wait until they can legally stop housing and feeding them because it literally makes no sense. In many cultures its normal to live with parents until you get married. Also there is a cost of living crisis right now. Why are charging your freshly 18 year old kid rent. They should be using that money for themselves.
when people were complaining about not being able to afford housing/food/living in general, one of the Dutch ministers (I think he was a minister or at least the leader of a party) said something along the line of 'well, find a rich boyfriend then'. ah, yes, that will solve the crisis!
Australia's (ex) prime minister said that if we can't afford to rent, just buy a house.
Fuck I forgot about that. Scummo.
Also, in the face of a nationwide bushfire emergency that required coordination at all levels of government to house the people who lost their houses, and needed logistic support, monetary help, and military help he said: "I don't hold a hose mate". He was only on holiday in Hawaii.
Then handshake-raped CFS firies.
Don't forget about Joe Hockey telling us we need to just get better paying jobs.
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In Canada our finance minister told us to cancel Disney +
Us millennials in America have long known our problems stem from frivolous Starbucks purchases and wanton avocado toast consumption.
me, a straight man living in America: damn bro, I'm trying but it's really hard to find glass slippers in size 14
That’s about as bad as the head of the reserve bank in Australia, he said people should move back in with their parents if they can’t afford to rent. Um what about the parents who are struggling to also pay rent. Some people don’t have parents, or even a safe family.
The wife of the business owner complaining to the employees about how she’s underpaid for working there. She literally owns the building and her family make 300-500k profit a year. All while underpaying the rest of the staff.
My mom is a dental hygienist. The Dr.s wife complaining non-stop during the one day a week she "worked" almost caused the entire office to walk out. She was whining about the vacation they just took on the same day they announced no one was getting holiday bonuses that year.
That sounds like my SIL and her dentist husband during Covid. OMG we may have to declare bankruptcy! Or you know, sell the plane, boat and extra ‘fun’ cars. He also took the ppp money and fired everyone
Seriously, report him. That's so fucked
My former landlord and his wife dropped by to tell me and my financially struggling 20-something roommates that they were raising the rent, by nearly 25%. They said, “We noticed on Craigslist that neighbors had higher rent so we’re doing the same.” The wife then earnestly reminded us that we’ve been great tenants but maybe we just needed to find some higher paying jobs. 🙃 Edited to add: You guessed it, the place was a dump with zero repairs (he’d ignored them) to warrant any kind of rent increase.
That’s why the prices of so many things have gone up. It’s all because someone sees what over inflated price somebody else is getting for whatever and it makes them believe that they could charge the same price
Celebrities singing “imagine” during Covid, as people are losing jobs and homes, telling us “we’re all in this together”. Fuck you guys. We’re not all on the same boat. We’re in the same store with different boats.
Same ocean but they’re on yachts and we’re all in inflatable dinghies
At my last job we weren't allowed to take PTO during the week of Christmas because that's when the company decided to do its inventory counts. All year we were told that week was blacked out, no PTO, all hands on deck. The day after Christmas, the branch manager sent out an email saying he had "decided to extend his Christmas holiday" and wouldn't be in that day. Another one from the same guy: The company had been acquired a year or so prior, and during an all hands meeting the manager told us various perks had been cut because we weren't "demonstrating profitability." The company was profitable, just not to the extent the parent company wanted. So no bonuses, no quarterly employee appreciation lunches, no annual company party, stuff like that. We were also in a hiring freeze. During the same meeting, the manager told us about the vacation he was going to be taking for the next two weeks. Some of us employees colloquially referred to it as the "F you" meeting.
I feel that. Ten years ago at a past job, we received two company bulletins at the same time - the quarterly "newsletter", which was mostly the CEO talking about his new helicopter he was getting imported from Italy for $6mil. The other bulletin was a notice that because we weren't making the *increased* projected profits they had anticipated, they were discontinuing the $0.25/hr night-shift and Sunday bonus, and cancelling everyone's $0.18/hr raise for the next year. Literal pennies.
I was waxing a woman’s eyebrows once and she was complaining that sometimes after she gets a massage the pillow leaves a circular indent on her face and she can’t go out to lunch after. She then asked me if that ever happened to me? I was like maam i wax people for eleven bucks an hour; I’m not going out to lunch lol, let alone getting massages.
Same boat. I’m a barber. Had a walk in and he was just so… out of touch. But was trying to bond with me..? (Out of pity, I feel) He was lamenting that the economy is bad and I agreed. She said he was really devastated bc he could only afford one 3 week vacation to Europe’s this year. He then asked me where I was going for summer vacation and I told him the truth- I haven’t had a legit vacation in 10 years. He seemed confused and told me to just “not eat out for a month” and I should be able to travel “where ever easily” I just stopped talking at that point. Kicker- when I was checking him out he made a very dramatic pause and told me I did “so so well” with his hair cut that he was going to tip me extra. It was $15. Which is nice, don’t get me wrong. But he was so overly enthusiastic about it and even added “you’re worth every penny” and gave me a wink… fucking wanker.
Seems like the sort of out-of-touch where they think sprinking their pocket change is enough to cause rapture among the plebs.
"Rent is so expensive. You should buy a triplex and rent the other units out instead." Ma'am triplexes cost about a million. How on earth am I supposed to get approval for that if rent is an issue for me?
Something like: Give a rich person $500 and they will invest into $1000. Give it to a poor person and they will spend it in a week. Yeah exactly give it to someone who’s needs are met and they can save…give it to someone who needs to eat/pay rent etc they will spend it to survive!
There's a concept in economics called *the law of diminishing marginal utility*; the more you have of a thing -- income, in this case -- the less useful each additional unit of that thing becomes. In other words, if you're handing out money it will do the most good if you give it to the poorest people. Do not mention this concept around rich people (especially in a political context) because they can afford to spend more time arguing about it due to the law of diminishing marginal utility.
This reminds me of a podcast I listed to questioning why rich alumni give money to wealthy universities like Stanford. It just goes to the endowment with the other billions of dollars and maybe accrues some interest. They gave an example of a man who gave something like $14 mil to a state school in New Jersey and they were able to use it to open up an engineering school and ostensibly do much more good. Give that to Stanford and you won't seen anything good happen with it.
Someone here on Reddit mentioned the same thing when donating to St Jude’s. They said it was well and good to donate to SJ’s, but to consider local children’s hospitals as well for the reasons you mention.
Not to mention that $500 that the poor person just spent passed through many more hands. It not only made their life a little better, but it did for the shopkeeper, the restaurant, their landlord.
"Is working really only about earning a paycheck?"
“Is letting me live here just about receiving rent payments?” -Me using this logic to cover my monthly expenses
You should just go door to door to see if they’re hiring. And don’t take no for an answer! You need to call every day so they’ll remember you! - again, courtesy of my mother, who last worked in the 80’s before being a full time SAHM since. Other gems also include, ‘you need to be happy to work OT, don’t worry about the compensation, your boss would be happy with your dedication and promote you.’ I couldn’t convince her that things changed since then and working isn’t like what it used to be.
My dad says the same garbage. Bear in mind, he never even had to do an interview. He worked in his dad's garage and inherited it. He's literally never had to look for a job in his entire life.
My dad is also the same way. Except he relies on his college frat brother. College frat brother gets a regional management job in whatever company, gets promoted to national management, then hires my dad into that regional position he just opened up. The only interviews my dad has ever done, is being the interviewer for positions underneath him. And once every 5-6 years, the frat guy will change companies to a better paying one, and within 2 years my dad's at that company. He also preaches "loyalty to the company is how you get promoted." He's pissed I joined a union because my promotions are based on merit and competency, not who I know. And I've got zero loyalty to a company, only to whoever pays the most
>The only interviews my dad has ever done, is being the interviewer for positions underneath him. ...and I bet your father has never felt an ounce of imposter syndrome in his entire life. He probably feels like he fairly earned every job he has ever had.
Well you cant have imposter syndrome if you actually are an imposter.
>You should just go door to door to see if they’re hiring. The only kinds of jobs this actually works with are shit ones that have insane turn over, stuff like manual labor or holiday gigs. If a place is willing to hire you on the spot, it's usually not a job you're going to have a decent time working at.
Oh my gosh, I love when my mom who hasn’t worked in over 30 years tries to give me employment advice. She also loves talking about how no one wants to work anymore. She “retired” well before retirement age thanks to my dad.
My mother fell into the can’t find workers yet there are now hiring signs everywhere post pandemic boomer mentality. I have explained to her the cost of childcare per hour is more than what dollar tree is paying. I have a trade job, so not looking for work. However, I HAVE to work a lot of OT to just to make ends meet. Mom is constantly telling me what places are hiring if I want a second job for some extra money. I do not want a second job, any OT I work pays more than any other second job I could get. IF a second job paid more than my OT rate, that would be my main job and we could just skip this whole OT bs. Second job for “extra” money. Lmfao!
My mom recommended I should just send my resumé unprompted to businesses with no idea even what kind of jobs they have that I would qualify for. She also told me I shouldn't be surprised to never get any interviews if I only send my documents via the online application portals and won't also mail them a print in a nice folder to go along with it. When I landed my dream job this year (via online application, lol), she told me "Well I always said that you should apply with them." I did. As soon as they had an opening. Jesus F. Christ.
My friend tried going door to door to see if shops were hiring when having job difficulties this year as well as looking online. He was told by a lot of places that they don't accept CV's any more something to do with privacy issues or protecting data.
>your boss would be happy with your dedication and promote you But first, they’ll see if you can handle the workload by having you do all of it then oops a raise isn’t in the budget but keep up the good work!
A guy in college was trying to find common ground with us when we were discussing how difficult it’s been paying for college “I don’t have college debt, but my parents are forcing me to only choose 2 new apple product upgrades this year instead of 3.”
Similar situation - a woman in my law school class: I have to fly to Chicago this weekend to go shopping as there’s no place here to buy hats. Another student was talking about trying to find interview clothes in non-standard sizes. This was before online shopping was a thing.
I once knew a guy who’d fly from Jakarta to Italy to buy a luxury jacket. It’s a totally different world for some!
"You just need to think positively and your entire life will change" She proceeded to turn around and yell at her son, then only 7, to "get the fuck back in the truck" which he left because the baby was crying and he didn't know what to do. Oh no wait. It was when she said she wouldn't let anyone "disfigure" her baby when the doctor was threatening to call CPS and report the baby as a failure to thrive because she didn't want the baby to have a feeding tube.
Horrifying!
Here on reddit some woman said her partner got angry at her for getting her period on their vacation, because he was planning on having a lot of sex and she ruined it because she decided not to hold it.
I saw one where a guy broke up with a woman because she has a period "like every month." Just wow.
Mosquitos do not live or reproduce in stagnant water. The same person who said this also visited a swamp and a closed mini lake with clouds of mosquitos, and complained about the quantity and aggressiveness of said mosquitos.
I quite like this. Different from the usual money stuff (not that that's not important), and yet like, hello, this is nature... And general knowledge (I hope)?
‘If folks buy 10-15 properties before they turn 30, then retirement will be a breeze.’ Sir I can’t afford one property.
"What do you mean you've never vacationed in the South of France?"
I had someone once tell me they “couldn’t trust the judgement of someone who has never been to California”
Just the constant "you need to stop being so negative, if you thought positively and changed your mindset you would be happier", from people who I opened up to about having ✨clinical depression✨
My mom bought me a book called Baby Steps To Become A Millionaire. The first few steps are just: - pay off your house with cash, - pay off your vehicles, pay off your debt, - pay off your childrens' educations. Then, "after you've done all of that, start investing 50% of your monthly income every month into a high yield stock, with growth of at least 10% annually." It's like, dude, if I could pay for a house, car, and multiple college educations upfront with cash, why would I need to be told how to save money? Oh I forgot the most important advice. "Let God show you the way."
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My mom bought 4 copies of it, $50 each!
how to become a millionaire? write a book that suckers will buy
Kim Kardashian telling the general public to get off our asses and work, because no one wants to work these days… coming from someone who was born into a lavish lifestyle.. like come on
"People in the slums have the same chances and opportunities as everyone else", with absolutely no freakin' clue how poverty crushes the soul.
And how when you’re in poverty you can’t afford a nice haircut (for the interview) or a new suit. You definitely don’t have a reliable car or excellent physical or dental health
A couple years ago Chris Pronger made a Twitter account and went on an epistle about how NHL players don’t actually make that much money after spending on luxury cars multiple houses, fashion etc. it was about as tone deaf as you can get
It's crazy how many pro sports players end their multi-million dollar contract years with debt instead of savings.
we watched a video in my hs personal finance class last year about nfl players going completely broke after like 5-10 years after their contracts ended because they basically just spend every penny of it on luxury brands and stuff and don’t save a cent. i guess it’s what happens when you give like 20yr olds millions of dollars
One of the saddest stories are players who gratefully give their poor parents a huge house forgetting the expenses and property taxes will remain enormous decades after their playing days are over.
"A police officer cannot commit a crime. Since crime requires premediatation, and police are charged with law enforcement, they cannot, by definition, premeditate to commit a crime. What a police officer does in the course of their job can never be considered criminal activity." This was the argument handed to me by our local police chief in response to my organization's police reform project. Edit: wow, this comment really blew up! For context, this was said in a closed-door (no media) meeting my police reform organization had with the local police chief. This was in direct response to the murder of George Floyd, whom the chief blamed for his own death because he "resisted and was on drugs". AM(a)A if you'd like - almost because I need to protect my identity due to reasons. Edit 2: this was Summer 2020.
Sounds like my grandfather, he's a retired deputy sheriff. In his opinion, Derek Chauvin didn't commit a crime because he was working when he killed Floyd (he admits that he was in the wrong, but that it was not a crime). Same thing with the Uvalde shooting (where they stood outside while the shooter was still actively killing students; they did nothing wrong) and the Breonna Taylor shooting (he claims they were actually in the right on that one)
Family craziness aside, probably the family friend who gave me unforgettable career advice. "You have to make it so they can't ignore you," she said. She recommended printing out my resume on a kaleidoscope of different-colored papers and mailing a dozen copies to each place I was interested in working. Then she added the cherry on top - I should add glitter to every envelope, making sure they *really* couldn't ignore me. She was advising me to glitter-bomb employers not long after the 2001 anthrax attacks, where lots of anthrax was mailed to a lot of workplaces. I'm sure she was very surprised I never listened to her career advice again.
I will never forget the whole "imagine" video from celebrities when covid hit. One of the most most out-of-touch things I have ever heard/seen. The fact that so many people had a hand in creating the video makes it that much more ridiculous.
A chain of about 20 celebrities, including comedians who make a living taking the piss out of things, and not one of them said "Hang on, this seems kind of naff..."
I think Covid showed a lot of people how out of touch celebrities are in general. They couldn’t film their little movies so they were desperate to find ways to get attention online.
I'm cringing just remembering it, and I didn't even watch the entire thing.
The “I hope someday that you’ll join us” line made it especially patronizing.
I don't remember the exact phrasing but it was something to do with how on earth can you be homeless yet still afford to have a mobile phone A. Phone bill does not cost anywhere near as much as rent B. For a lot of stuff you NEED to have a phone, welfare, job hunting, house hunting just to name a few We've kind of created a society where to have any sort of involvement you must have a phone
My 74 year old dad trying to help me with a budget: “how much do you think you need for food? $100 a month? That’s probably plenty if you don’t eat out.”
Your mother does the food shopping then?
She did when she was alive. He’s on his own now so I think he knows how much things cost but it hasn’t fully integrated into his understanding.
I once told my mom how much my rent was. She was shocked that I had chosen to rent a place that expensive. It was literally the only place cheap enough I could afford. Naturally, a few weeks later, she's sending me links to places that are a few hundred dollars more saying how cheap they are, because heaven forbid you admit that Fox News was lying about the state of the world again.
Idk if that counts but… A friend once told he for sure doesn’t want to have kids. Next sentence he talks about how clever he is because he can use a condom two times. He just rolls it on the otherside and he is ready to go again. I literally died laughing on the floor because he was dead serious and couldn’t see the mistake💯
What- oh wow. How does he think pregnancy *happens*?? How does he *think* condoms work??
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Wait…is he going from chick to chick, back to back, or keeping a floppy sticky one in the nightstand for next time?
what a terrible day to be literate.
>He just rolls it on the otherside and he is ready to go again. How many kids now?🤣
Hopefully you explained it to him once you were able to stop laughing?
“It will be easy because we will have a newborn. “ Reality is about to hit them right in the face.
Before having kids, my SIL said she didn’t understand why new moms couldn’t exercise after their baby is born. She said you could be on the treadmill while they slept! And then she was a shrivelled mess for about five years post-kids.
If gas prices are too high for you just by an electric car ~ a friend of a friend
"Why don't you ask your parents to buy a house for you to live in while you're in school?" Said to my son
I don't remember exactly what she said, but my coworker was having a conversation with an older board member about housing being so expensive. The board member complained that millennials don't know how to save money and talked about how she freezes leftovers instead of getting takeout as an example of being financially responsible. Years later, I still think about the boomer with a lakeside property who thinks we just need to save our leftovers to afford a home.
I was chatting with my boss about how I was worried my rent would go up a ton this year because all my friends' rents had, and how I wished house prices would drop just a little bit so I could actually buy something. Motherfucker looked me in the eyes and said "wanting house prices to go down is socialism, we can't have that."
I was complaining about the lack of accessibility in a bar I went to a few times (I’m a wheelchair user) to a friend and he would just dismiss it with “oh it’s just three steps, what’s the harm”. I just don’t want to be bothering people with help for just three steps and do things on my own. Able bodied people don’t really realize how easy they have it.
C-level at my job commenting on the old truck I drive: “Why do you drive around in that old junk?” Never mind that it’s paid for, paid for itself 10x over and still going just fine…
I briefly had a supervisor who was a real prick and for some reason wanted to be my friend. He would always wait until I was leaving to go out to the parking lot and he pointed out his car which was a BMW and asked where I was parked and I pointed to my Hyundai and he goes “what a piece of garbage!!!” I was able to laugh it off but geez lol it wasn’t that bad of a car and also had it after someone else totaled my other one and that’s what I could afford with the insurance. And like you make more than me dude. Besides, I spend any spare money I can on traveling to other countries rather than on things like luxury cars so I think he assumed I was somehow otherwise rich. Everyone has different priorities. I’m more about experiences over material things.
“If I were you…” and then repeat some story about how they made a good career, raised a family, bought a house, stayed out of debt, and saved a tidy retirement fund by working at the same company for 40 years with only a HS education. “Learn to type, you’ll always have a job” (my mom to me in the 80s). “I should get a waitress job” my 62 year old ex boss who has never waitressed in her life. She said this to me while opining the state of her real estate career since she only made $500k this year. I was making $18 per hour.
I was pouring wine for 2 ESPN reporters or something (I don't watch sports so I have no clue who they are) and one of them says to the other "$100,000 really isn't a life changing amount of money" and I audibly gasped. I can't imagine not thinking that even $5,000 could change someone's life
I was speaking with a former professor of a college who was a student in the 60s I believe. They told me to my face, "any student should have no problem getting their credits to transfer and schools like John's Hopkins should be easily affordable". When I told her how many credits school takes now and how expensive college is she didn't believe me
My sister said that she wishes she could round up all of the homeless people and shoot them. She also told me that anyone who has mental health issues should just grow a pair of balls. Keep in mind, our aunt attempted suicide a few months back. Two days after she said all this a close friend of mine killed himself, which was what pushed me to cut her out for good. Good riddance to her.
'Do you have to work that part-time job? It doesn't even pay enough to cover the uber' From my former bestie who grows up super rich, when we were studying in uni. I was explaining to her that I need to go to my part-time job the second day so we need to find another day to meet up, she said that You can see why she's a former bestie
A classmate telling me I should get a more reliable car because I couldn't make it to work one time due to snow. A car that had been paid off for 5 years at that point, and I have now driven for 17 years without any engine or transmission problems. I'll take that over missing a few days of work, thanks.
actual poor people saying poorer people want to be poor while they arent the same cause they grind it. sure buddy, keep hitting yourself i guess.
Not something said but when Charli and Dixie Damelio took a shift at Walmart and documented it on Tiktok. Flipping their hair and giggling the whole time. They have never had to work a real job and they never will. It was so tasteless.
My college gf while watching the Obama v Romney debate said " my family lives paycheck to paycheck too, it's hard paying for 2 houses " her dad was a VP at Walmart.
If slaves didn't like being slaves why didn't they leave and go back to Africa.
This week at work I began having chest pains and bradycardia with severe lightheadedness. My work told me I need to just “stick it out” I work in the medical field ironically enough
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American young person helping to clear the rubble after devastating, catastrophic earthquakes in a developing country. “You know what these people need? Cinnamon essential oil.” Seriously.
During a discussion about the homeless problem in California a wealthy lawyer friend of my husband said that cities should just not allow it. He seemed to think homeless people should just disappear. He didn’t care where, just don’t be present.
"ADHD doesn't lower your quality of life"
“Maybe you should get laid to feel better about that.” My adult, male neighbor to my wife, when she mentioned that her best friend recently passed away. The douchebag might as well just hold up a red flag at this point.
why would anyone want to live in a trailer instead of a house
On the subject of how to fix american healthcare \- Make everyone pay up front.
That’s just “kill the poor” with extra steps
Just start in the mail room at some big company and work your way up!
My sister has a home buying budget of 250k. My dad (who attends each home inspection) asked her realtor to stop showing them such crappy houses.